Shoei GTAir-3 and SENA SRL3 - Wind noise

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  • @BigManBikingReconDMV-fm2pn
    @BigManBikingReconDMV-fm2pn ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Outstanding review and very detailed. Thank you for the amount of work you put into this review. Ride safe and enjoy.

  • @mrfishyman
    @mrfishyman 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very interesting. Ive just bought this helmet and sena combo and ive found it easy to hear music etc. At speed wind noise is higher than id like but the speakers increased volume with external noise increase and voice commands were fine at speed as well, if anything i find they work better at highway speeds which is odd. Going to get some plugs and since theres plenty of volume left at the moment im hoping ill still be able to hear music etc at speed

  • @iangoodwin345
    @iangoodwin345 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just purchased a new Shoes Neotec 3 today Steve after 5 years with the Neotec 2. I had a Sena 10 unit on the N2 which is now 11 years old and has never missed a beat. When looking at the N3, the salesman told me about the Sena SRL3 integrated unit. I figured that a new helmet and comms will be a treat. I fitted the SRL3 to the helmet today and wished I had asked the sales guy to do that. Refitting those damn cheek pads with the wiring in place was a real challenge. It is pouring rain where I am this week, so I might leave my road test for a less miserable day. My custom moulded ear plugs worked well with the Sena 10, so fingers crossed that the new unit works just as well. Another good review mate!

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Ian, try Mesh when you can. I’ve got a follow up video in the works, cheers

  • @cll9650
    @cll9650 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hello and thank you for your review. Was looking to purchase the GT Air 3 and considering whether to get the SRL3 and your review helped (not worth the cost). However, something that you might be interested to try out is the newer ear plugs (Loop and so on) which offers to filter out (lower) the wind noises and allows music through. I've recently obtained the Loop Experience 2 and found that it helped a lot (at least for me). You might want to check it out with your SRL3, might allow you to hear better at higher speeds.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I have switched to Alpine. Also Scena mesh communications is very good, loud and clear. Cheers

  • @andrewshore262
    @andrewshore262 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good review, I’ve been using a Shoei GT Air 2 for the past 5 years, I have reduced hearing in my right ear following a bout of shingles so a quiet helmet is something I’m after when I replace next year. Have to say good that GT Air 2 has been I’m disappointed Shoei haven’t moved things on much, my Air 2 has the SLR 2 fitted and I find it feeble at higher speeds - the problem with the GT 2 & 3 Shoei drive you down one road regarding comm’s and I think Packtalk is just a superior product, both in sonics and overall performance. Anyway, thanks for the review it’s helped me make my mind up.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve found mesh to be really good. A bigger windscreen would help too

  • @robhuff1190
    @robhuff1190 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for your review. I have been looking at SHOEI helmets to augment my collection but it appears they are plagued with noise issues. As with nost of us in our age group, we are looking for a "quiet" helmet. Relying heavily on reviews like yours as throwing money at helmets is not very practical.
    My daily right now is a Scorpion R1 Air w\ Cardo Freecom 4 whicih I want to retain when I finally do purchase a new helmet (options are getting limited now with partnerships). MotoSafe earplugs on every ride by the way. Need the the added protection. At 160kph there is obviously windnoise but I am able to hear music\calls and use voice commands fine.
    Only issues I have with the combo is when I enter areas of poor reception (radio) or when it is extremely windy. Just my experience with the combo.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the feedback, cheers

  • @carlosalonso9866
    @carlosalonso9866 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi, I had a R1250GS with the BMW Navigator paired to a Sena intercom on a Neotec 2. It was my first experience with intercoms and I was pretty excited by the prospect of listening to music while riding. My former bikes didn’t have any sort of connectivity. I always ride with earplugs and really didn’t bother listening to music after a while as there was too much noisey from the bike and the buffeting of the windscreen. I don’t think it has any thing to do with the helmet. I have no hard data to back up what I say but in the equation of factors that account for noise while riding a motorcycle, I would guess that the helmet is a rather marginal one. To a certain extent I think that motorcycle riding and listening to music via an intercom don’t mix well together. I since changed bike. I ride now a sports tourer with a smaller windscreen, you get more wind on the helmet but a cleaner flow, so no buffeting. I have a GT air 2 with intercom now but I only use it for the gps prompts. I ride in Europe and the windblast you get with legal and not so legal highway speeds would be unbearable on the long run without earplugs. I prefer to focus on the riding than settle with a subpair sound quality. Thank you very much for all the effort put into your video

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. I appreciate your detailed review and analysis. I don’t know if there is a perfect solution out there but I’ve spent about $2,000 so I’ll stick with this for maybe 5 years is so. Cheers

    • @PhilbyFavourites
      @PhilbyFavourites 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Snap, 1250GS! Navigator 6 and custom ear plugs with Shoei GT Air 2. Never had the need to be “connected”. But I’m thinking the navigational prompts could be useful.
      I’m intrigued to know the clarity of the sound from the Navigator prompts while you’ve physically got ear plugs in?

    • @Stevestravels01
      @Stevestravels01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PhilbyFavourites G'day, the sound quality is fine up to 60km with earplugs, I struggle above say 80km/hr. However I have a low windscreen so a larger one would help a lot. cheers

    • @carlosalonso9866
      @carlosalonso9866 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PhilbyFavourites It's ok, you just have to adjust the volume, you need to set it much louder when riding at high speeds because of the wind noise, once you slow down the first prompt appears always to catch you off-guard because it's too loud...

    • @blueknight2004
      @blueknight2004 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PhilbyFavourites .. The Alpine Filtered Ear Plugs you should try and I am Profoundly Deaf and need all the assistance I can get .. see my recent Reply to Steve

  • @fensn6172
    @fensn6172 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, without sena wifi gaget , Does the SRL3 FUNCTION fully hands free comands as Cardo? Thnks

  • @yeagerdd
    @yeagerdd ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I gotta ask. Do you get any wind buffeting with that configuration of windshield in the BMW? If the answer is no, where did you get it? Looks cool. Also, awesome review, it is very very detailed

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  ปีที่แล้ว

      The screen on the 850 is low for off-road. A larger screen would help a lot. Cheers

  • @marekdworakowski5665
    @marekdworakowski5665 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the review. It's a pity you didn't say anything about the controls as the users of the old SRL model complained about the size of the buttons.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I assume they complained they are too small, and they haven’t changed. Cheers

  • @DallasBros
    @DallasBros ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So because of motorbike riding (probably not using ear plugs) you lost some percentage of hearing?

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s what i put it down to as I’ve had office type non industrial jobs. Wind noise is the loudest thing i think I’ve been exposed to

  • @GH-ss7sn
    @GH-ss7sn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, Steve!
    I can't comment on your helmet but have the Sena 50S. My experience with wind noise is smack bang the same as yours.
    For clarity, my hearing is good (WiFi would of course disagree at times 😂), I ride your bike as you know, run 50:50 nobby tyres and wear nonoise ear plugs that I highly recommend.
    Your Sena has open Mesh, right? This is nowadays the ONLY option I use for communicating with fellow riders as, I believe, the volume is louder, clearer, crisper but I could be wrong.
    Pretty high price tag for an intercom system to only use it with Mesh tech ☹️. I doubt however that Cardo would be any better and ask myself often why Sena do not enable riders to set the vol at their desired level (without damaging the speakers). They could limit their liability by stating "If you increase the vol beyond this level, it is at your own risk if you damage your hearing." But really... do we need this parental guidance?
    Further, @Sena - why don't you develop SW that adapts the vol in line with riders speed in- or decreasing as well as based on wind noise?
    Now that would be a great new feature I might pay for and upgrade my current 50S.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to hear from you. I’ve yet to try the mesh, it may be better. Cheers

  • @discosuperfly6242
    @discosuperfly6242 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought the gtair3 because of the write up on safety and wind tunnel tests, I thought that included noise. My 600 aud hjcf70 never needed earplugs even at higher speeds. This 1500aud helmet is soooo damn noisey. The sena 3 is great, The wind noise is ridiculous. I don't understand why shoei hasn't sorted that out being there are so many people around the world saying the same thing. I wish I'd looked up wind noise specific before buying.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have found Mesh mode though to be really good

  • @love4steel
    @love4steel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i have the newest sena srl in my gt air 2... its nice but i need it to be louder. after 70mph i can barely hear it. if someone goes from that to the new srl3.. please let me know if it is any louder. thanks

  • @chrisbourke528
    @chrisbourke528 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Steve. Thanks for vid. I too have a gt air 3 with srl3. Try your lid with the chin curtain fitted. It doesn’t fit properly in my helmet, but it does quieten it down considerably. I only connect my iPhone to the srl3 and it accepts Siri commands, which is so much easier. Cheers. Chris

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Chris, cheers

    • @peterdj1942
      @peterdj1942 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Chris I got a GT air 3 this week I thought it was me having trouble getting the chin curtain locked in at the sides the larger chin curtain makes it harder to put the helmet on and off outside of that no compliance I don’t have a problem with wind noise but I have a good windshield.

  • @t-rex4211
    @t-rex4211 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have you got phone settings volume to max? I thought my coms was quiet and in settings there’s about an xtra 20% you can give it

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, yes I’ve discovered that too, cheers

  • @Evo_Spec
    @Evo_Spec 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nicely edited and put together video!
    I find the use of the CB radio very strange, however I'm sure the CB radio range is further that mesh alone. I have no idea how you and your mates ride but if your mates have mesh connection, you should definitely give that a try for the sake of clarity and volume.
    I've only ever ran the built in comms on both a Sena 20S Evo on bluetooth and now a Cardo PackTalk Edge on Mesh (since my friends use Cardo's) and never had any issues with clarity or volume when in range.
    I found on the Sena 20S Evo at max volume to be sufficient with earplugs and the Cardo is louder for sure and have it around 80-90% volume with ear plugs.
    I'm not sure if my hearing is as bad as yours but I think it is since I badly need hearing aids as well, just can't afford them right now.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi, our group has a mix of guys with CB’s and some with new helmets and Mesh. The mesh group are growing and the CB’s dropping off. I might do an update video soon. Mesh is very good even at high speeds

  • @EndlessRoadsNL
    @EndlessRoadsNL ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Noise, i bought an gt air2, same issue, extreme windnoise and could not use my coms. I use cheap coms. Got the helm refunded and picked up a shark RS carbon. i can clearly now listen to music or talk with my daughter at illegal highway speeds. Shoei was my brand but all i hear these days a loads of complaints unfortununally.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is my first ever Shoei and I had hoped for better, cheers

  • @J3UJB
    @J3UJB 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are you aware that the Sena has a boosted volume setting? I have mine set to the boosted setting for the same problems you have, not least bad tinnitus. The setting can be found in the App.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks I’ll check, cheers

  • @kendelion
    @kendelion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought mine was bad as well especially with "Harman Kardon" Speakers advertised.
    I changed the settings to Multitasking OFF, Audio Boost OFF, and HD Voice ON.
    It's night and day sound quality difference

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi thanks I’ll try it. Also I have now tried mesh and the sound quality is great. I’ll do an update video, cheers

  • @RobertKehl
    @RobertKehl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just purchased the Gt air 3 w. SRL-3 Sena unit. Not trying to high jack your thread. But has anyone had problems with the voice commands when using hey Sena. My unit does not recognize my voice at all it works perfectly with the iPhone Siri commands though. I even had Sena send me a warranty replacement unit. Still doesn’t recognize my voice commands. Sena sent me a video showing me that the unit I sent back to them works just fine. I can’t understand why it won’t work for me. I even had my wife try the hey Sena check battery and other Sena voice commands. Nothing works. Software is 1.2.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi, I find voice recognition useless above about 40km/hr. I avoid using it and the FM radio. Mesh however is brilliant!

  • @a9503128
    @a9503128 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Only one option IMHO, Earmold Australia and get a custom made set of plugs or headphones. Not cheap but then again you only have one pair of ears.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent suggestion thanks for watching. Cheers

    • @robweston4608
      @robweston4608 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree… I think I paid $80? Not a lot in the overall scheme of riding bikes.

    • @a9503128
      @a9503128 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robweston4608 about 90 for just plugs and for plugs with earphones about 300, well worth it

  • @LKESBO
    @LKESBO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why u dont use bigger windshield

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that would help on the highway. I go off-road a bit and a bigger windshield would not be good.

    • @LKESBO
      @LKESBO ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StevesBikes01thats why i was wondering about the helmet its quite helmet overall compared to all modular ones every helmet will be a noisy helmet if there is no proper wind protection i almost tried them all,, best 2 schuberth and shoei ✌️

  • @NoTengoIlusiones
    @NoTengoIlusiones ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you upgrade firmware ?

  • @blueknight2004
    @blueknight2004 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am Profoundly Deaf from a Bike Accident in 1980 and have the same issues as you Steve. Your cheap over the counter Ear Plugs are the Wrong choice as I have used them and found that they are too noisy for Road use. Having used Ear Plugs with Noise Filters dedicated for Motorcycling is your next step up to Better Hearing !!!! whilst Riding. I now use the Alpine Hearing Protection by Motosafe and come in Two Hearing Levels. It is the Ear Plugs with NOISE FILTERS that you need to wear and they will take you upto 120kph+ before it gets too noisy. For around town my Moulded Earplugs are ok but like your current Protection not satisfactory. Please enjoy your Riding like me Steve..... 🙂

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ll get some Alpines thanks

  • @supernova82
    @supernova82 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are basically two things you can do to improve your experience. Use earbuds like Alpine MotoSafe Pro and chin curtain. The foam earbuds blocks everything including human voice hence diffficulty in listening to music.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I agree, my low screen is an issue too. Mesh is great, new video coming

  • @Leon-gz2sq
    @Leon-gz2sq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did both speakers work for you? Only the right side works for me, do I have to adjust that?

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, yes they both work, cheers

  • @IRLtrolls
    @IRLtrolls ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a Neotech 2 with the SRL3 and I have the same wind noise problem on my Super Tenere 1200. I found using foam earplugs works too well and blocks too much of the music. The best solution I’ve found is the rubber ear plugs with the 3 pyramids like “steps” that are rated for 25dB reduction.
    On my Goldwing I have zero issues with noise because….well it’s a Goldwing. I barely even feel the wind but on other bikes it’s extremely loud.
    I’ve heard good things about PlugFones. I might try a pair.

  • @MrEtnorb
    @MrEtnorb ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That screen of yours looks to be near useless, based on that wind noise. Look at a US made Aeroflow screen. They are the best.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The screen is a compromise as I do a bit of off-road. A larger screen would reduce wind noise. Cheers

  • @G91YS
    @G91YS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the PackTalk Bold from JBL/Cardo for 5 years now. I always wear 35db ear plugs (foam). And it's the only intercom that is powerful enough for highway and such. I'll be a GT Air III soon but will transfer my Packtalk.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching, cheers

  • @NoTengoIlusiones
    @NoTengoIlusiones ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for video. You have to many " crap" on your control bar. To much distraction. Cheers , ride safe

  • @VK3ACU
    @VK3ACU 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm so disappointed I got talked in to this helmet. Sure it may fit well and be nice and safe but the wind noise is horrendous compared to other helmets I have owned

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I get the wind noise too! I have found the Mesh however to be excellent between several riders. It’s like being in the same room chatting

    • @VK3ACU
      @VK3ACU 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @StevesBikes01 I agree mesh is fantastic

  • @VT5700
    @VT5700 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could easily solve all your hearing issues but my solution may be too expensive for you. When im driving my bike 200km/h i have the volume just half way and i can easily hear the walkie talkie no issue at all

  • @peterdj1942
    @peterdj1942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seems to me you’re bike set up is the problem not the helmet.

    • @StevesBikes01
      @StevesBikes01  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah a bigger screen would help however that’s no good off-road