Shoei Neotec 3 review: ALL WEATHER road test
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- UPDATE: Shoei has just announced that there will soon be SRL 2 adaptor plate that will allow owners of the previous Neotec 2's comms to use it with the new Neotec 3!
The Shoei Neotec 3 on review here is one of the most important motorcycle helmet launches of the year as this flip-front lid has long been the benchmark for touring riders, not to mention couriers and the emergency services.
Bennetts BikeSocial has an enviable reputation for the most in-depth and honest reviews of motorcycle kit, and it’s very important to us that we maintain that. While I was fortunate enough to get hold of a full production version of the Neotec 3 four weeks before its release having signed a strict non-disclosure agreement, the test - as always - remains entirely independent and unbiased.
As we finally release this review, I’ve ridden around 700 miles in the Shoei Neotec 3 on a 2019 BMW R1250GS, a 2001 Honda VFR800 and a 1999 Kawasaki ZX-6R, to find out if the changes made are truly improvements…
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Chapters
00:00 Why you can trust this review
01:34 Why you should try a flip-front / modular helmet
02:21 Shoei Neotec 3 outer shell & fit
05:12 Shoei Neotec 3 weight
06:14 Shoei Neotec 3 ventilation
08:50 Shoei Neotec 3 visor
11:21 Shoei Neotec 3 lining
21:09 Shoei Neotec 3 strap
21:35 Shoei Neotec 3 noise
13:45 Fitting your own intercom to the Shoei Neotec 3
25:36 Shoei Neotec 3 review: Verdict
17:40 Bonus announcement: Shoei GT-Air 3
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UPDATE: Shoei has just announced that there will soon be SRL 2 adaptor plate that will allow owners of the previous Neotec 2's comms to use it with the new Neotec 3!
Here's the full written review of the Shoei Neotec 3, which will be constantly updated as testing continues: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/helmets/shoei-neotec-3-review
Great news as I bought the Neotec on the understanding the coms would fit the 3
That's the way to look after your existing customers
SLR2 was a pice of shit as intercom definitive not close to Cardo Packtalk. so disaponited
@@branosh Tell me more, I was very confused about which unit to get, and yes the sales man was good, but always open to learn more
But the Srl 3 has allegedly got Harmon speakers and the Srl 2 speakers are at best disappointing
I use Nitrile gloves to install your Pin-Lock. So much easier to ensure no finger prints.
This is great content, John. IMHO you do the best unbiased reviews of kit and bikes, along with Simon Hargreaves!! I have my eye on one of these.
Thanks so much - that's really kind of you! All the best, John
I've had two Neotecs (one got damaged in a crash) and currently use a Neotec II. I'm looking at replacing it next year as it's getting old now and this will definitely be top of the list. Thanks for the excellent review.
Thanks for a grreat review. Having had a Multitec, Neotec and currently a Neotec2 this will be the natural progression for me 👍
Thank you sir! Your time is impeccable! I'm about to change the WROST helmet i've ever had (Schuberth C5) and i was going for the Neotec... and this was perfect! Already called my pusher!
No the worst was the C4, and I got one with coms too, so we'll pissed the the C5 would not take them
I have used Shoei flip fronts since they came out now using Neotec 2 I find I get steaming up at low temperature with vents closed, to stop this I put 8 or 10 3mm holes in the chin skirt and this cures the problem without increasing the draught. These helmets are the best I have used thanks for a great review.
Great review, looks like an excellent lid as usual from Shoei. One great thing about the Neotec 3 is the deal you can get on the last of the Neotec 2s .... which I did a couple of months ago!
Brilliant review, providing great information really makes a difference when choosing such an important piece of biking kit 👏
Another great (and as is so important) unbiased review, thanks John.
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Although BBS is a commercial driven enterprise i have to say no other insurer goes as far to improve the safety, quality of kit and sometimes great bike reviews as Bennetts do. You all deserve so much kudos for the way you go about your work and the benefit to us riders when sharing your knowledge and experience. Michael Mann may have got the project off the ground but he , you and other colleagues need to take a collective bow to the invisible applause i suspect many bikers like me would give you ...given the chance. Well done John to you and all the team.
Thank you SO much for this. It's our MD, Vince, who really deserves the praise though for giving us the tools to do this! All the very best, John
Cracking review, very informative and comprehensive. Nice work!! After over 25 years of riding I finally got my first Shoei earlier this year, an NXR2. By far the best quality, best fitting and most comfortable helmet I've ever owned ... also the most expensive. Guess you get what you pay for .....
Thanks very much!
Very nice review. You covered all the bases
Great review! Thanks for the excellent review.
Very well done video on both neotechs! Informational & valuable Thank You!
What a great review! So glad i bought this helmet! i big thanks for that!
Fantastic review I love my neotec 2 and have been waiting for the 3. I did wonder what the difference would be as I thought the neotec 2 was and still is a good quality helmet. Had my neotec 2 for a year and a half so maybe something I get next year. Love the reviews and thank you
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
Excellent comprehensive review! Thank you!!
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Excellent review and information here! Thank you. I like to turn my head to see what’s around me before changing lanes. So, for now, I’ll stick to my Arai Corsair. ❤😊
Thank you for all you do for our motorcycle community, greatly appreciate all of your efforts. I have a Neotec II and like you, wear glasses and condensation is a concern. And like you, I keep it cracked open to the first position although during occasion, I wish there was a second, more open position, but after the first click, it rattles and is disconcerting. Be and ride safe.
Thanks so much! The Neotec 3 is a definite improvement. Cheers, John
Great review! When discussing helmet weight, it should be said that the Schuberth C5 weight includes the weight of the built in com speakers which most riders will add. So it’s weight advantage over the Shoei will increase.
You do such excellent reviews. I've said it in previous comments, but I worked in riding gear retail for many years and these are exactly the kind of ideas I picked up over that time. Things like weight vs aerodynamics for example, the fitting advice, the noise levels vs fairings and earplugs, all good stuff.
I also always offered to help install the pinlocks that came with helmets and instructed customers pretty much exactly the same way you do - many don't ever even realize the eccentric pinlock pins. Remembering that is also good, since if the insert loosens over time, the silicon seal between the insert and the main visor can start to leak. When it does, moist air will get between the layers, and then even the best ventilation won't get in and demist your vision. One thing I would add is that the pinlock insert is a very soft material, so I always recommended to never use coarse stuff like kitchen paper towels. In fact, because the insert is hydrophilic, it's practically impossible to wipe it dry anyway, so it's best to just dab it with a soft cloth and then air dry it. A Shoei replacement pinlock is about 40€, so keeping it scratchless saves a bit of money.
I always felt the Neotec II was an excellent helmet! What I would have liked to see was Shoei looking into slight improvements to the chin bar closure. As it was it was already extremely good, but having fitted it to probably hundreds of heads, in *some* cases the chin bar might not fully lock on both sides. Most commonly this could happen with customers with quite wide faces, and/or if the customer was a little bit "timid" in closing the bar. The bar would be extremely reliable if either one used both hands to close it, supporting the helmet from behind while closing with the other hand, *or* if one was brisk enough with one hand, closing it in one quick motion that made the engagement of the latches positive. A hesitant motion with some people might leave the latch on one side unengaged. To be absolutely clear, the Neotec was no worse in this than any other helmet. Some other helmets I've seen even had enough flex in the chin bar as to allow either of the latches to entirely miss the tab on one side. It's just that I feel this is a really important part of modular helmets, so it should be as reliable as possible.
Thanks so much for this, and good call on the Pinlock drying. Yes - I've had some modular lids that needed a positive lock. The Neotec 3 is very good (as is the AGV Tour Modular I found). All the best, John
@@bennettsbikesocial Heh, thank you! I feel like a parrot because I get to say this sort of stuff in nearly every video. I've also loved the industry exposes and testing content, they are absolutely mint stuff.
My last year in retail I must have been an odd salesperson who just goes off on rants and tangents on a myriad of topics about ECE standards, fits, earplugs, visor materials, waterproof liner construction techniques and care strategies and ohh what not. :D
@@AleksiJoensuu It's a relief to know that there are people out there who have the buyers' backs - who will help them when it comes to choosing what's best for them, so thank YOU!
@@bennettsbikesocial Kind of the same thing I said about you folks, like "You make videos as if you'd make more money if customers would be safer and happier so they could ride more! Aha!"
It's the same thing in retail. Sure, some might be after a quick buck, but honestly people get into biking for a long time if they're safe and enjoy it, and they will remember who served them well. My favourites were the customers who came in with absolutely destroyed helmets and gear, but still walking on their own feet.
Had a tiny wisp of a young woman come in once. She was a semi-pro drag racer. Walked up and said "I crashed in a race last week. Bike is mangled, this helmet is absolutely wrecked, the ambulance crew had to cut off the leather suit you guys sold me. But all I have is this small bruise on my right knee. So I need another set for next race season. I think the neck brace is still fine."
I stopped riding for a period between 2018 and 2024 and was silly enough to leave my Neotec 2 in the shed in my very very hot home country. I actually gave it to my gardener when i gave him my NMAX but he diskt want it and so left it behind.
When i asked him about it because i wanted to know the size he dug it out of the shed.
The helmet was purchased in 2016 I think. By 2024 the entire interior lining had disintegrated, i mean a pile of dust and nothing more. I was going to buy a new liner and use it as a spare. This channel has educated me to just discard it.
The styrofoam seems 100%, so does the outer layer. But seeming ok and being ok can be vastly different.
How many of you have thogjt about replacing your helmet due to age?
Great review, always informative and relevant, even from the other side of the Globe. Thanks
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
Great review as always John. I have a Shoei Neotech 2 with SRL2 Comms. I've only had it for several months so I'm still enjoying it a lot. I will definitely look at the Neotech3 when it's time to replace my helmet.
Thanks very much!
Shoei has just announced that there will soon be SRL 2 adaptor plate that will allow owners of the previous Neotec 2's comms to use it with the new Neotec 3!
My Neotec 2 is getting a bit loose after more than 100K km, so I was waiting for this. It seems it is now finally possible to open the visor by just a small gap. Great when you wear glasses and commute in foul weather as you are demonstrating. Thank for the review John!
Just change the cheek pads and your good to go.....
Cheers! As @stocks7765 says, you could replace the cheek pads in the Neotec 2 to potentially improve the fit, but if you can afford it, the Neotec 3 is a genuinely worthy upgrade. All the best, John
Brilliant review - on launch day - thank you
Thank you! Great Review and helps me definitely to make a decision! Greets from Germany
Excellent and comprehensive - great end to end review mate. I'm going to get one but first I need to save £'s for a while longer. Many thanks, Wm..
Cheers! John
As a fellow Glasses wearer (with anti glare) and Neotec 2 owner, I use the muc-off anti mist product to clean my specs before going for a ride, but be careful to buff them well or they can smear. Using the same product on the inside of the visor also helps. There are a couple of old tricks from days prior to visor products... 1. Use a fine smear of dishwashing liquid on your specs and buff to remove smears, use the same on the inside of the visor. This works, but does not last long. 2. Use spray on furniture polish on the outside of the visor. This is outstanding at making water bead and clear from the visor. I think there is silicon in the polish that allows this to happen, but again, always buff well after application as it can cause smears and riding at night a bit twinkly with oncoming headlights.
Excellent review, thanks!
Excellent review!
Brilliant review❤
Looking at an additional lid that's more town and shop friendly - PITA doing the glove and helmet juggling with my NXR2. Love and trust Shoei since getting my 1st - a Wakai rep' X8-R.
Very informative. Thank you very much.
Beautiful piece of essential, no critical equipment. Nice job John. Can’t wait until they get here to the US.
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Great video and so well done. Just subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to future videos 👍🏼
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
I was actually planning to purchase a Neotec 2 and pass my Nexx Vilitur helmet to my wife. First time heard the 3rd edition. Definitely will look out for it.
Great review. Looks like they have addressed two of the three main issues I have with the Neotec 2. No ability to open the visor a crack, and the sunshield doesn't quite come down far enough. The other is fitment of a non Sena system and that looks about the same. From a marketing perspective I get it, but it is annoying that helmet manufacturers tie themselves to a brand rather than configuring helmets for communications more generically.
Great info thanks will go for the gt air 3
Will have the review out for that as soon as poss. Cheers, John
Good review esp about water leakage which I have had in other good lids...
Interesting. Worn Arai for 38 years, nil probs. Rx7V evo bought feb this year, felt fine in shop, riding, felt like head in a tight vice. Gave up with it an tried a shoei xspr pro, Wow night an day comfort all day long, absolutely love it.
Good review thanks.
Regarding anti-fog for your specs, my optician recommended using Hoya Clear-it Anti-fog wipes. Contrary to what the name implies, it isn't a pack of wipes but a single cloth treated with something or other to stop glasses fogging. It costs about £5 or £6. The optician said it should last a few months, but I've been using mine for over a year and it's still doing it's job. I always clean my glasses first with a good cleaner, then breathe on the lens, give it a wipe with the Hoya cloth, treat each side of each lens. The treatment lasts the full day, and continues working the following day providing I've not had to clean the lens again.
Excellent, thanks!
Try Foggy Wipes. I’m a glasses wearer and it’s been a game changer for me.
Hoya make filters for photographic lenses. They KNOW glass.
Quality review as ever 🙂
Cheers!
Great review. Just purchased a Neotec 2 with SRL Mesh for £599 seems that deals are available with the release of the Neotec 3
Excellent review…considering the new EC safety standard-06 , the larger sun-visor , better Polsters to an already comfortable,plush interior, etc, an improvement over my Neotec2. I wonder if you can replace the neotec 2 sun-visor (too short) with the neotec 3 sun-visor? Probably not…if I were to buy a new helmet, I would definitely go for the extra money, since the neotec 3 has the latest safety standard. The Schubert is also a great helmet and depending on head shape usually one or the other will fit more comfortably.
Great video, thank you
Thanks for the review, is the eyeport any bigger..???? as thats my main gripe with helmets.
Great review. Crap JUST bought my Neotec last week and didn’t realize the 3 was released although I still don’t see it on Shoei’s US website. 😢
John Milbank content is at the very top of the youtube pile!
Thanks very much - that's really kind! Cheers, John
Mrs Milbank seems a great laugh too. Ideal dinner guests I reckon.👍🏼👍🏼
I take his reviews with a grain of salt, because they are always opinion based or at best technician based. Nothing wrong but there is little empirical data behind his “findings” and that weakens it for me sometimes.
@@michaeldobson8859 Still better than the rest...
Thanks for an honest review. I'm still using my original Neotec and will need to replace it next year; the Neotec 3 is top of my list. I prefer the Sena 50S to the integrated systems and found it easy to mount on my gen 1 Neotec; will it also clamp onto the new model?
I also wear glasses and find the Zeiss Anti-Fog Kit works reasonably well, but you have to use it sparingly and be careful to avoid smears.
I've got a SHOEI heed and my last two lids were neotecs (1st gen) so was interested to see if the neotec 3 was any good as wasn't a fan of the neotec 2 ...just didnt seem to gel with it. This new Neotec3 looks like a worthy upgrade although my neotec still feels plush next to alot of other makes and models of helmet inc. my newish Xlite carbon flip up ( can be ridden with the chin piece up unlike the shoei) which is nice but not the quality of the Shoei. I look forward to trying a Neotec 3 on! Thanks for the in-depth review 😁👍🏍🏁
When only the Best will do!
Great review as always.
Good to see that Shoei has addressed some of the shortcomings of the 2. The drop-down visor coverage was poor and I’ve found that I get a draft and therefore noise too just below my ear, hopefully new interior has cured that.
One area that I think they have definitely missed is the pinlock coverage, still protects a lot less of the visor than some others, HJC are particularly good at this.
My Neotec 2 also seems to hoover up bugs and invites them to tap dance on the top of my head.
I’ve mod’d mine but a fly screen would have been good.
Thanks very much! How did you mod your lid? Cheers, John
Hi John ,using the below vid removed the top vent a put a bit of mesh from a bug net between the vent and the helmet. Works a treat but obviously cleaning it is going to be a bit of a ball ache.
Paul
m.th-cam.com/video/4cCUU5uFEQ8/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUMTmVvdGVjIDIgYnVn
@@hartley383 This is brilliant, thank you!
I notice on shoei website they have added an insect filter, not sure if it helps enough tho
Another great review John, wife and I both wear a Neotec 2. Can I persuade her to update……??????
Nice review and a nice helmet. Will there become a point when retailers will not be able to sell 22.05 helmets they may have left over in stock?
My shop doesn’t have these in yet. So I just updated the software on the Sena in my Neotec II and just Ride That Thang!
What I'm most looking forward to is their 22-06 version of the Hornet ADV. I wonder if it will have a flip-down sunvisor.
Great honest review as always. I'm currently using the Shoei GT Air 2 and AGV Sportmodular. I've fitted the Sena SRL2 intercom and I like how well it fits. My next helmet was probably going to be the Neotec 3 but I'm a bit disappointed that Shoei had to redesign the intercom, as that might put off some of the potential customers.
Have you made a similar video about the AGV Sportmodular? I'd be interested to hear your opinion since you mentioned it disappointed you.
Shoei has just announced that there will soon be SRL 2 adaptor plate that will allow owners of the previous Neotec 2's comms to use it with the new Neotec 3!
I really wasn't a fan of the Sportmodular when I reviewed it, but did find the Tourmodular to be good: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/helmets/agv-tourmodular-flipfront-helmet-review
I'm running an original Neotec and it's been a great helmet and still remains comfortable. This sounds like a great future replacement.
Me too, but it has expired YEARS ago and needs to be replaced.
Bought a silver and orange Neotec 2 last year. They are expensive helmets, but excellent in every way. You get what you pay for.
Great review.
I'm using an original Neotec - it's not that old, I bought it after the Neotec II came out! - and am now looking at buying a 3.... my question is, given that my own Neotec is a perfect fit, am I safe to assume that if I buy a 3 in the same size online, it will fit equally well? (I don't live anywhere near a dealer so would be convenient...)
For sorting out fogging of glasses, try the "The Body Doctor AB Mask Anti-Fog Cloth", found at Boots, Superdrug etc.
I was struggling with fog, but each time I ride, give the lenses a wipe with this, and at least for the day I have no issues. Important to follow directions (mist the lens, and then wipe) for longer lasting effect.
Thanks for the great content, ride safe.
Thanks! Have just ordered one...
Cheers!!! I struggle with my specs fogging so I’ll give this a go
@@calbrock6302 no prob, hope it works well for you. 👌🏼
I move from the Shark to the AGV because I developed a neck problem and the AGV was much lighter. It makes a difference if you have compromised cervical bones!
Very important to try before buy. I tried a Shouberth c5 and it felt like a torture device. The worst hemet in the shop. The one i did manage to get on my head (pain free), was too big. Getting the Shoie neo tec2 was a no brainer for me. I'm not loyal to brands, for me it just felt right.
I opened my Google news feed today and saw 3 articles in a single scroll on this lid today, obviously the NDA cleared today! I knew I was only going to check out the Johns review. Looks like a cracking helmet, I'm not arsed with the flip front, generally prefer a fixed chin guard but a lot of features I like are found in flip fronts, the GT Air 3 sounds very tempting. Sadly a bit of a stretch on my budget but we will see.
Thanks so much! Cheers, John
The main competition is HJC RPHA 91.
Value for money.
The way the chin bar pulls close into the helmet when open is brilliant.
The multi adjustable sun visor is great and spare parts like new cheek pads in few years will be cheaper as well.
Quiet and comfortable.
Hoping the new Neotec 3 has a better tint on the inner visor, as I have to wear sunglasses too when riding in low sun. And the SLR 3 has more voice commands, as the SLR 2 has alot going on with only 3 very small buttons which is a pain. One thing missing on the Neotec 3 i see is a filter/mesh on the top vent, as on the Neotec 2 large inserts can go through.
I bought the Neotech 2 for a good price. The Cardo boom does not fit flush in the boom gap, making the padding pop out it’s tab. Not a problem with the helmet on, but it is visable when it is of.
Great review. I believe that comments about noise are likely to be because the lid hasn’t been fitted with the right interior padding. Get yours fitted by an expert helmet fitter and you should get a very quiet lid.
Awesome vid. Ride safe, god bless u.
Cracking review as ever - Any problems with draughtiness in this lid?
Cheers! Not that I've found
Been holding off getting a new lid till this came out. Looking forward to seeing them in the US in about 18 months probably…
excellent reviews
Thanks so much!
I left shoei for the hjc rpha 90s carbon because of weight. After a few hours, I couldn’t wait to get that shoei off. 4 plus lbs verses 3.3. We need to push shoei to offer a carbon model and pay attention to weight otherwise they will keep getting more heavy. The shoei is more plush but the hjc is totally comfortable, like a c3 pro feels.
Just ordered one can’t wait to have it in hand 😊
Another great review John. I actually had a Neotec 2 multi coloured so not cheap & liked it. But decided to go " cool " brought a Harley so brought an open faced. Two bad moves there and the Harley & helmet both got sold very quickly. Now back on a GS but being a cheap skate I recently brought a C4 Pro from cut price on line seller. Its proven to be another mistake as having only worn it a couple of times not feeling comfortable. Might mean a NT3 multicoloured Christmas present to myself then John. Ted
Sorry to hear that, but it's a process we all go through! All the best, John
The only thing wrong to me with my Neotec II is the visor - that I can't just ever so slightly crack it, and that the tab is on the left side. Might encourage me to retire the II a little earlier than I otherwise would. Not a fan of the pinlock insert, I too wear glasses and with it installed there are just too many glass surfaces. I only get a little bit of fogging ever when stopped and that's easily managed by opening the visor to the first detent, which is also fine at low speeds though a minimal crack would be even better. But I also don't use the nose deflector, if it's hot and I want air on my face I'll just open the visor.
Another great review cheers, just a note on antifog sprays. I use muc off premium anti fog treatment on my specs, and fing it works even though I have anti glare on them. I was dubious at first as it's £10 ish for a 32 ml bottle, but, having only bought 2 bottles in 3 years I can't complain. And my wife and kids use it. My specs generally need cleaning before it wears off, so no idea how long it would last for. Also I find the spray puts far too much on, you end up wiping loads of excess off, so now I just moisten a cloth and wipe on. Once applied leave a few mins then buff off any excess.
Give it a try.
Cheers
Lee
Excellent - thanks! Added to the list for a product test video
Great review. I find Shoei helmets so comfortable and I’ve been looking at the Neotec for touring - much easier at passport control etc but why have they put their eggs in the Sena basket? Whether you’re Cardo or Sena surely it makes sense to leave it possible to fit both properly? I had to avoid the GT Air 2 because my Cardo wouldn’t fit. Not sensible Shoei.
Nice helmet. I have the NT1 and had to mod the chin section to take my Gopro. Isn’t it time that helmet manufacturers provided a solution for gopros with composite lids?
Another excellent and honest review. I have the Neotec 2 and do not like the SENA comms, and stated I would not buy another Shoei if they continue to deal with Sena, so thats a disappointment.
That's a shame, though you can always fit your own comms. Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial i had nothing but trouble with the Sena SRL, keep failing, multiple replacements then the poor quality audio and constant freezing/crashing. Pitta;y as I really likes Shoei, they should offer comms from multiple vendors not lock into just one vendor.
I had the SRL 2 (in a gt air 2)they were junk coms, distortion, clicking when using intercom etc...I changed to the SRL mesh it's much better so far. @@Getting-On
I just got a new Neotec 2 a little less than two years ago, so it'll be a while before I'm in the market for one of these. My girlfriend's Neotec 2 is a lot older than mine, and the Neotec 3 sounds like a great update overall, so it won't take much convincing for her to get one.
We both live in New Zealand, so I'm guessing the Neotec 3 won't be available here until early 2024, and it'll be at a "sell your spare kidney" price point.
What’s the best modular you’ve tested ?
And look at that rain 😢
Glad I live in Australia nowadays 😎
No more riding to work in snow. 🎉
Thank you, that's all
I'm almost ready to get a new helmet, coming of a Schuberth C3 pro Classic red I'm drawn to the TC-5. Looking at a lot of video's of shoei or schuberth makes me think they are not similar head form wise. Would you think the Neotec 3 is a good replacement for my Schuberth or should I stay with schuberth?
I assume the shape of the helmet hasn’t changed from the 2? I have a round shape head and found the 2 didn’t fit even after the dealer changed various pads. Found the HJC rpha 91 best fit and some innovative features that top range helmets lack. Also in testing it came out the quieter helmet.
Great review as ever. You mentioned the latch mechanism testing - do you have any other details on that, is it a new requirement for ECE 22.06? Have Shoei mentioned improving it since the Neotec 2? I mention it as SHARP tested the Neotec 2 and it only got 70% for latch staying closed under impact. Whilst they don't test the latch explicitly they do note how many times it opened/failed on the impacts. That means on 35 impacts it opened on 9 or 10 or them. As a result I bought an Evo One 2 instead and its replacement (if the latch is similar) is likely to be an Evo GT even though the Shoei helmet is more plush.
I don't have any more info I'm afraid. Tony covered this in more depth in his excellent video: th-cam.com/video/adVmKJx4ovY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Icsn7byvfFlDMakS
@@bennettsbikesocial thanks John that gave me exactly what I needed. Well it wasn't good news as such but at least it added some detail. I think I'll wait for further info from SHARP once they are back on track - I believe they paused/halted testing while 22.06 came in. To be honest it would be nice if ECE tests covered latches coming undone in impacts as it is pretty important as it turns your full face into an open face if it fails.
I am a Shoei fanboy. I’ve got an RF-SR, RF-1400, and a Neotec 2. My fave is the RF-SR. It is the lightest, vents the best, and most comfortable. Honestly, I find the Neotec to be very clunky. The new HJC RPHA is the best modular atm.
l bought the original Neotec, l found in it comfortable to wear. On the basis of being happy with it l invested in the Neotec 2. Also the intercom system that l thought was brilliant because its not 'sticking out' in the slipstream causing noise but fitting flush to the contour of the helmet.. the shell was narrower than the original even though it was the same size ...(Medium)...so that was a bonus feature. l always wear ear-plugs ...the Alpine variety, so wind noise is pretty well non-existent .... The Shoei Neotec is a premium product. The new 3 can only be more advanced, if only in minor ways...
Thank you so much for the detailed review! Just got myself one too after owining 2 full face Shoei's, I made the choise to go modular as I have to commute everyday to work and it offers more functionality. I do have a question though, I noticed that when I have my visor open and open the chinbar the visor does not always meet up and "click" to the locked positionwith the locking piece on the chinbar for the visor,, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt and when I have the helmet on and open the chinbar with the visor open an extra sort of click noise is heard which is not there of course when the visor is already closed and locked, I've also noticed that when I have the visor open and open up the cinbar, the visor, when at the last notch or something, pulls sideways a bit before meeting up with the cinbar, I was wondering if someone can confirm that this is normal or not?
FINALLY, Shoei have sorted out the bloody visor and finally being able to just pop it open.
Why did it take this long Shoei!!
Thanks for this review. A few months ago i bought two neotec 2's plus intercoms for me and my wife after watching reviews etc, I'd rate them as ok apart from intercom is a bit annoying, keeps cutting out mid conversation telling me to 'say a command' and has to be reset..also they weren't cheap ..so imagine my joy at hearing that this helmet neo 3 is 'better in every way than the neotec 2' ..i think I'll leave reviews alone for a while and just go with what i fancy 😄
Mine does that all the time. I just say CANCEL to return to the com. It can be quite annoying. Some days it does it more than others.
Do you have any problem with condensation? I’ve ridden with with the Neotec 3 for about a month now, since the beginning of February. The condensation is terrible. The visor outside the Pinlock visor quickly gets covered in a heavy layer of moisture which can’t be seen through. The Pinlock visor is too small, so the areas of peripheral vision are completely blocked. The sun visor and my glasses both mist up very quickly. I had to ride with the visor open a couple of clicks to keep my vision clear.
Apart from that, it’s a lovely helmet. It’s very comfortable and quiet. It just a pity I can’t see anything!
Still using my Neotec 1 original version. I bought new linings and cheek pads and it's like brand new again ... I do not like the proprietary intercom setup on the later versions. I have a Sena 10S and it still works wonderfully all day long. Spending significantly more money to get a marginal (seems to me) upgrade makes no sense at the moment. If I have an incident where as the helmet gets damaged then maybe the 3 will be in my future but for now the 1 looks like new (sort of) and it'll be my daily riders for years to come 👍🏼 Thanks for the video though 😹
Did you complete the SRL3 review? Can’t seem to find one on your TH-cam page. Edit: found on the website. Would you please add a link. Cheers
excellent review as always. Would love to see a GT Air 3 review. As I am torn between neotec 3 and GT air 3. Thanks
It's coming...
Oh nice - thank you
@@bennettsbikesocial any sign of the GT AIR 3 review?
@@mk2esc here you go... www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/helmets/shoei-gt-air3-review
Can you do a video comparing Sena and Cardo options? I have the cheapest Cardo with upgraded JBL speakers. But I would prefer the integrated Sena IF (and only if) the sound is as good or better. If it's worse I'd pass but reading very conflicting reviews online. Help! :D
I’m sure the Neotec 3 will be great. I own the RF-1400 and NeoTec II that I just bought a few months ago. I will be happy with both for the next 5 years or so. Just a side note: I do have a SENA 30K mount on both my Shoei helmets. It was a fairly easy install on the RF-1400 but a bitch to install on the NeoTec II. Why helmet manufacturers like Shoei can’t or won’t make some sort of universal mounting location that can accommodate legacy comm gear is beyond my pay-grade. Seems more like Shoei \ SENA collusion more than anything else.
Very nice and comprehensive review👍 I currently have the Caberg Duke 2 and am considering replacing it with the new ECE 22.06 replacement model from Caberg. Would love a review on that as the current Duke 2 represented almost unbeatable 19:06 value for money, especially looking at it’s SHARP ratings.
Also, why do some manufacturers (like Caberg) advise against the use of inner helmet spray cans for cleaning? I’ve been using products from Liqui Molly and Motorex with no issues whatsoever. I’ve found it can actually prolong the life of a helmet, as it’s always snug and tight again after using it?
Caberg review coming soon - keep checking BikeSocial.co.uk as it'll probably just be written.
The risk with any aerosol is the petrochemical propellant, which can damage the expanded polystyrene liner (that's why a lid shouldn't be put on top of a petrol tank). I did the Arai technicial training many years ago, and they said then that if you want to use furniture polish on the outside, spray it onto a cloth, not direct to the lid. But ideally don't use it.
@@bennettsbikesocial Many thanks for the feedback. Looking forward to the review. That’s quite interesting, especially considering their so widely available from established brands 🤔