I just did my first ever online race a couple days ago and I was so nervous. My heart was pounding, started sweating and my hands were tingling. After a couple races the nerves went away and started winning some races.
I started 2 weeks ago as well, so far it’s probably the best online experience I ever had basically against random people. No one tries to ram me. I quickly got up to C rating and S safety
I'm happy for you! But that's certainly not my experience. I always wind up running at the back of the pack where tons of people seem to enjoy running others into the wall . . . for which I get penalized for ignoring the limits of the track. So frustrating!
Does your DR go up when doing A races in sport? Just started today and there are icons above the daily A race saying the race doesnt affect my DR. Yet youtube videos show racers doing daily race a
@@JDavidChilders what is your fairplay rating ? If it's not S try to race as clean as you possibly can and ignore the trouble makers on track. It can take you a little while but once you get there it's a complete different game
@Antoine Delévacque I started a week ago and it took me 5 clean races to get t a "s" rating. Now it's a totally different experience without the carnage.
Hey, this is a fun experiment (and a great video) but there’s still the fundamental fact that you were superior to everyone else, despite the same rating. You could do clean passes (and hence, not experience the mayhem) because of the difference in experience. For us racing pretty much within our actual skill segments, the story looks a bit different. Still, your final words of advice at the end definitely are valid!
I was thinking about the same thing. Especially when you can lock up the brakes coming out of a turn and still fly past the guy you avoided hitting. That said the last statement (words of wisdom) made me love this video. I gave this video 1 like but wish I could give it 100.
As someone who started at E driver rating in GT7 and now at B, I can safely say that GT7 online is nowhere near as bad as some people are making it out to be....it's not perfect but no multi-player is perfect at launch of the game, it will only get better with time...It's just that, a lot of people play GT very competitively and want to be at the top, which leads to a lot of frustration on every single little incident of dirty driving or un deserved penalties or server crashes....which results in over reaction of minor problems that are always there in any newly released game I actually can't think of any racing game that had such a good online from the very start of the game
looking for an intoxicated online multiplayer competitive game? in dream lol. I started my sport experience yesterday after one month of offline playing and would say it is really good experience
I’m a gt7 fanatic now and I can say everyone’s experience varies, I’ve had far more dirty races with no etiquette or sportsmanship than clean but I will say when I can finally get a clean race in it makes it all the more sweeter.
I found the lower levels had a lot of dirty drivers in, which made it easier if anything to climb up to b, just steer clear of them, let them have their fights and pass when they go off or get penaltied
Started about a month ago. Beat the game (level 41 currently) and I've raced maybe 6-8 online races. Gotta say that aside from my bad wifi connection I've had a pretty good time with it. Usually finishing top 5 with a couple podium finishes. I've yet to feel that penalties were undeserved or player intentionally ruin the game. It is a online game and mistakes happen of connections are not optimal, you have to factor that in.
Only problem with sport mode for me is the penalties are wonky. I can slightly tap someone and I get a penalty and then the next lap someone can ram me off the road and get nothing.
Ghosting and penalties are so inconsistent. I would so much prefer to have a system where you crash hard enough, you are out of the race. All this hitting and ramming in GT7 Sport mode is so arcade like it’s depressing from the REAL DRIVING SIMULATION game which is an arcade game. Gonna have to race on ACC for some realism which is sad cuz i wanted to love GT7.
@@RebelMan- I'm in the exact same. I came from I racing and i think the penalty system (that's not perfect) but so much better! I also love ACC but im terrible at it and the doing set ups, but i sitll enjoy battling for 14th! I just wish GT7 would do something like when there is contact it slows both cars down significantly so it makes it really not worth anyone's while.
As a complete newbie to multiplayer, this video gave me a lot of hope. I'm also a newbie skills-wise so I'm not going to be getting podium spots, but it looks like if I can get around the track without crashing I can do ok on some of these events.
Late to the party but anyways. I tried 4 sport mode races (all daily C) with 0 wins because my best lap times are 40-50 seconds behind top drivers in Nordschleife with Gr.4 car. Also, my lap times were extremely inconsistent, I mean 30 seconds between the best ones and the worst ones. Of course I know I need to work a ton before even reaching D rank. But I was there to work on Sportsmanship rating today. So I tried not to quit, not to get into accidents, and avoid as many mistakes as possible. Eventually, none of the races were clean enough, but I still managed to rank up my Sportsmanship rating from B to A. However, even with Sportsmanship rating, I have a ton of work to do before reaching S. The thing is though, I only need to keep what I am doing right now. Racing is actually all about myself, my car, the track and time, not other drivers.
It’s way harder than this, probably the hardest part is qualifying in a decent place after a while and starting every race at the back of the pack and never being fast enough or tuned right to even compete and have it be very fun. It’s almost more fun to just race circuits after a while cause people are just so much better.
I think that was a comparison of daily racing against real people and "circuit" racing agaist AI in GT7 World where you pick the race of your choice at the track you choose. Arent the only custom servers found in gt7 in the lobby?@sargaa8471
@@bbadstdad4423 I never played gran turismo 7 but I played sport and I can tell you that there also is custom games here and you can even check gran turismo 6 and 5 (there was online before that but it was way different) and yeah I knew it was comparing solo but if you can play sport mode or as you name it daily race why won't you just play customs ?
I'm going in today after work, I just got the multiplayer and sport unlocked last night. It tool everything I had to just shut it down and get to bed because, responsibility-_- Can't wait till my route is done today.
Great video thank you exactly what i was looking for, venturing into the sport mode for the first time tonight with a complete noob rating should be fun!
It's not the newest drivers that cause problems intentionally. In my experience, the "B" lobbiare the most agregious. Everyone is hunting that A rating and it's more to lose.
I like your positivity 😂 thought that was Some nasty moves they were playing. But You really kept your cool and waited for the right moment. Just started playing GT7 again. Good memories playing it first in 1997 on ps1 and now on ps5 man, did they put out a Good race game. Can’t believe it. I’m going to Sub and look what content You are creating. Keep up the Good work! 👍🏽
I’ve just bought a ps5 and gt7 and loving it so far. This video settled some anxiety about going online and it being a demolition derby. I try to race fairly even against AI hoping it’ll get me into the correct mindset for racing real people. Thanks for the video :)
I believe because you are so skilled, you aren't being dinged, you will keep growing while others who aren't so skilled, get dinged on reputation points. I know with me, I'm not so good and make mistakes, so it rings me... further sticking me with other not so great races
Yeah, I don't like the Sports mode, I am slow. But the times I did do it, I saw that if I engaged with the jerks, I had a lot less fun and more penalties, but if I was clean it was not too bad.
Thank you for this remarkably calm demonstration, now quite excited to try sport mode later! I've almost always played GT in career mode and been wanting more from the AI. Stuff what Plebbitors say, miserable mopers spend twice the amount of time whinging on it, rather than playing and improving their racing!
I've tried controller and wheel and with a wheel you can control the hit from another player but with a controller, there's almost no saving a spin out if another player hits you...
Thanks for the video. Actually the kind of content I didn't know I was looking for! Noob racing is hard. I haven't played GT since GT2. Had to get a real job, etc... Just did my first sport race the other day. Qualified in Second. But got so nervous that I lost it on the first turn. I understand why that guy was flashing his lights so much. Happens when you push down on the left stick too hard. I guess the other thing is, maybe you should try these Noob races with a controller instead of a steering wheel? I'm sure you'd still be great, but I'm guessing there's a lot of Noobs out there like myself that only have a controller. Maybe I'll get myself one for Xmas...
I could listen to your race commenting all day - just hillarious.😂 Btw, I just had my first day of Sport mode, and I am a complete noob. The first couple of races, there where some not-so-gentleman driving, but I played nice so my S rating went to A. From there on everyone was nice. And I had to face how slow I was, so now comes the hard work.😁
wait, 2:06:144 is a good lap? you're a pretty good driver, and I always thought I was slow because I never managed to get past a 2:06:055 (my best lap at race pace) when I'm among other cars, this isn't meant to sound insulting my english still isn't brilliant, but you have me thinking I'm not as slow as I thought I was
In 2 days i went from E-A to B-S. I will say 95% of my lobby had people that were wrecking ppl. One race i was in 2nd the guy in 1st spun out when he recovered he spun me out on the next turn to get his spot back. But E and D are the worst
I've tried sport mode twice so far and both times it glitches at the beginning and I don't actually get to race anyone. The cars stay at the start line ghosted
Got the game a month ago. Done the menus started racing in sport. Got to a DS license. Now I am having amazing races and all the others [all DS] are usually clean. Beats Project cars 2 [the game I left to race in GT7] any day!
Well i mostly try to learn the tracks then jump into the races there fun but my first race really fidnt go bad at all because i decided to just reasearch a tiny bit
As a complete novice, the first time you encounter the game actually telling you not to ram people is in missions. You can easily gain quite a bit of experience against race AI that will happily ram you, and if you learn to drive like that, it takes a bit if time for people to change their mindset. I bet that's the cause for a lot of the impatient driving. Nothing more satisfying than a clean race, but I'm not really encouraged to learn to drive like this until i start driving with other people. Especially if you go and neglect missions
Did they change the penalty severity since 8 months ago? I only started Sport mode recently and the only contact penalty is for punting a car off the track, not for taps where the victim is still on the track.
Just yesterday in A race with D drivers starting out like me I’ve been rammed off the road, tapped on formers to spin around (and get penalty for going off track) and brake checked when in slipstream to smash into the car in front in a long flat out straight. Others got no penalty. It can be frustrating.
What’s worse cars get minimal penalty of 1-2s if any when they ram me off the road and I lose much more than that by going off track. Game should DNF much sooner
Does Sport mode start all drivers at the same skill level (later taking into consideration online abilities and achievements), or does the game/PSN network guage ability levels based on offline play and licenses acquired?
Try a different region, I tend to see most the complaints come from either Europe or the Americas and there's generally a higher number of players in these regions
Love the post. Great racing. But honestly, you aren't showing a great "noob" experience. You've done all of this before, learned your lessons, "earned your speed". In general you are racing against folks who haven't ever done this before. I didn't catch your rating at the beginning, but if you are A plus rated in your last account, and you proved you know what you are doing by your quick jump to sport, you have a huge advantage over the competition. A lot of the dirty racing comes form folks really not knowing what they are doing. Someone tags them, they decide "F" It, and tag them or someone else because they are frustrated. All of that said, in general yes, the "sport mode is a cluster" is more self-fulfilling prophecy than anything. There are awful, filthy, mud-caked racers out there, but they aren't the majority.
It's the mid tier racers that are the worst. Good enough to know how to hit and get away with it. I had a guy that would lunge on me at too high of a speed and use me and everyone else to stay on the track. As soon as he didn't have anyone to bounce off of, he would fly off the track and start all over again. It was really annoying.
I've found that if I use my quali braking points in the race, I overshoot. There is a significant difference in braking performance between quality and race.
The answer is tyre wear and also cold tyres. In qualifying you seem to start with warm tyres and they are always in perfect condition. Got to be careful in the actual race.
C'mon now, how are you going to come from a clearly winning account and start the online experience in GT7 with a new account as a "noob?" You may have tricked the game into putting you into races with actual noobs, but you still brought your skills and years of experience from your real account with you. Your racing etiquette is refined. Your driving skills have been perfected. Your instincts sharpened. Meaning you just drive better. You hit less things like walls and other cars, avoiding earned penalties. When hit, you recover with little or no effort. When hit, you have exponentially better chances of recovery, which translates into less unearned penalties resulting from assisted contact with other cars and punts off-track into walls. Overall, your skill level makes last to first races against true noobs and their collective mistakes a cake walk. Unfortunately, as well-made and well-intentioned as this video is; without a frontal lobotomy, you can never truly experience gt7 sport mode from the perspective of an average newcomer to gt7 again. Trust me, I've gotten punted without cause into the wall, got a penalty for wall contact, and watched the offending driver disappear in the distance penalty-free more than once in the past week when I began racing the dailies regularly. I've started most of those races in fields with 3 to 10 second ranges in qualifying times in the field which can be rightfully connected with the number of racers trying to enter that particular race at that specific time, yet I still question that there isnt some way to drastically tighten up the field. Anytime you've got that big of a range in driving skills, you're asking for trouble. New slow drivers all over the track. New fast drivers with no patience. None of them predictable... the skills and experience you have in the end means you just cannot share the experience of drivers new to gt7 today. Nice try, though. I watched the whole video, and for those ppl looking to learn, there is plenty of valuable information. Thanks
It's the PSN region. I have accounts with different flags based on which PSN they belong to. However this is on the PSN side, any game could chose to do something different if they wanted.
I'm a complete noob and my only complaint about the penalties comes from my own ignorance of the rules. Plenty of times I've gotten a penalty I knew exactly what I did, but a good amount of the time I have no clue lol.
I was really scared to get into this, but to be quite honest, it's really not that bad. I've only ever had a couple incidents and those were punished accordingly. Overall, a good experience. Just drive well, as you would in real life, stay safe and don't be a dickhead, be patient and the rest will sort themselves out.
Honestly, there are definitely crappy people who get mad because you passed them. They will try to tap your bumper as you pass. Or the people who you passed a while back, just straight up, full speed smash into you at a turn. There are certainly drivers with no honor. However, I would say about 80% of the races can be done without scumbags.
only really had one bad experience with a bad driver, but even then it wasn't even fustrating. I was able to pass the guy and move on with my life. Trying playing forza horizon online and tell me GT7 is unplayable online.
The ones complaining are probably the ones doing the ramming then getting revenge rammed than complaining about being rammed. Started a fresh noob a week ago in sport mode and really only had one chaotic experience.i just stayed racing clean and trying to improve my laps in qualifying.
Here in Latin America, I've got a bad crash and I was at 5th and I finished 8th bc of the crash. My car has spinned for 3s. Nevertheless I suck in this game.
you didn't get any penalty because you played with people far under your level and didn't have any preasure. But I agree with you, youtubers and influencers are not fairwith the game and their endless made polyphony destroys the game. You were lucky, the penalty system was on but I garantee you when it's off, the experience is not the same. Anyway, you should try now, the damages are on.
my tactic is to try and race clean, and let all the others fuck each other over... doesn't always work of course but I'm about 9/10 of the way up to class C. just started removing the drive lines and apex signs... leaving the braking area in for now.
The penalty IS broken. if you get a penalty, and somone just touches you. you get a bonus penalty on top of that lmao. The BoP system needs tweaking, on some cars, but that is no suprise
I really wish they would continue support for GT Sport. Make it like Iracing and just update the daily races every week. That's all I want. I don't like having to tune and spend so much cash to keep racing. I loved focusing on the driving in GTS. Now that's just gone cause they decided to scrap it? 😞
@@neblolthecarnerd You need money to race single player, to buy the cars necessary to race online unless you want to pay a ton of cash. Single player revolves around tuning, which requires you to spend that money just to pass one race and never use certain cars again. That's terrible when all you want to do is buy the cars you love and practice for online racing.
@@BigWillProductions1 how many cars can you rent for a sport mode race? Because from what I've played of the sport mode time trials you can rent any car in a car class for free.
@@neblolthecarnerd You can rent the car for the race but to practice with it outside of sport mode, you have to own it. In GTS the worst I had to do was spend 2 real dollars to buy a car I hadn't tried before. I would take that into the same track as the current daily race or my favorite tracks to practice other techniques, and I'd drive it for hours on end to break in my skills. Then I'd set up an AI endurance race at a major disadvantage and try to get to the top of the grid. After all that, I'd take that car into sport mode. In GT7 I start buy buying and tuning a hundred cars I have no interest in, either spending 30 hours doing this tedious work for nothing OR shelling out hundreds of real world dollars to skip through and get all of those cars without tuning or driving all the useless tutorial challenges. After ALL OF THAT, I end up with very little money and have to spend even more hours grinding challenges to save up the roughly 1 mil needed to buy some of these gt2s or lmps. THEN I can START breaking in my skills with the new car only to realize it sucks because it isn't tuned! So now I gotta go back and grind more stuff to get the cash to tune the car to get better feel and results on track. Etc etc etc (not to mention the tracks are locked until you do all that crap no matter what so you can't just start practicing day one anyway) I know people like the tuning gameplay and I get into it with certain cars, but as a guy who can't afford to PC race, I like that GTS allowed hardcore racers to hone their skills and focus on that from jump. This puts a 40 + hour wall in front of you and tells you to pay hundreds out of pocket to get around it faster. I'd honestly pay more real cash if I could get a 3 dollar car fully tuned from the start and just go to track. I was racing online daily, building a ton of skill and was excited for the next game. Then one day all of that halted because I had to devote 40 hours to grinding this new game just to get back to where I started day one of GTS. That killed my drive and I spent 5 months not racing at all. I went back and now I'm working through the campaign, but that's a major kick I the teeth for people. That's like the new street fighter comes out and all the dedicated online players have to spend 40 hours slowly unlocking every single character just to get back online. And when they do, they are tempted to pay a hundred dollars or more to get cash to improve the power of their fighters before they can even start to practice for the new crop of players on the new game. It takes the fun AWAY from one group and gives it to another who enjoy the grind. We could literally have both
@@BigWillProductions1 you don't have to tune the cars for daily races since they all run under bop and fixed setups. Also getting cars in gt7 is actually a lot quicker than in gts if you do the most efficient money grinding method which is like 2 million an hour. They made gt7 a game and not an eSports simulator and personally I think it's better for it but it see the appeal of an eSports style game. However I don't think gran turismo should be one. Gran turismo has always been a game at heart and always should be. I was really really disappointed with GTS because as someone who mainly played singleplayer I had basically nothing to do and was essentially given the middle finger by pd. They released a spin off eSports title and acted as if that could fill the gap left by the lack of a mainline game.
Great video! I just picked up the game a couple weeks ago and haven’t tried sport mode yet, still making my way through the cafe menus. Just curious, what sim setup do you use??
I am running at trak racer stand and a Thrustmaster tgt wheel. But whatever your setup just jump into online and have fun. So many people take it so seriously but it doesn't have to be that way and you don't need to be fast. Have fun out there.
I recently set up a new alt account and started GT7 over again. I will say that in the lower lobbies I found some super fun and mostly clean racing. What happened is that there is a top tier of drivers than have no justification of being in low rank lobbies (I suspect these are DR B - like me - or DR A accounts running alt accounts) and then there are the noobies. The noobies are dispatched pretty quickly and the field splits between those who know what they're doing and those that don't. I soon moved up to DR C/SR S in my alt account and I have so say that has been more fun than my current DR B main account. Guess it's fun when you're better than 70% of the competition.. LOL.
The dr system is crap, gain positions and dr still drops , gt7 seems to want me to remain D, when i made to B with my g29 next race cause i didnt make enough position dropped back to D, so why even try to go up, and im not the only Canadian having this happen
The defensive behavior of slow drivers demonstrated in this video is actually problematic and can get a penalty in real life. Changing lanes over and over to block the traffic, closing the apex when it’s too late for others to react, dive bombing, etc - are examples of risky behaviors. Causing a collision by punting someone to a barrier is only the most obvious way to cause an accident. Not following the rules is punishable too. Though, GT7 is typically not considered a serious sim like iRacing to follow the real life rules.
Sport Mode is trash. Simply a venue for online azz hats to ruin your racing day. Played about ten races, was knocked of the track at least twenty times. You have fun though.
I just did my first ever online race a couple days ago and I was so nervous. My heart was pounding, started sweating and my hands were tingling. After a couple races the nerves went away and started winning some races.
Sheesh
Had the same thing when I started but went really well
I get that nervous too when I play online, you aren’t alone buddy!
its amazing how good ppl have become at this, im an old dad gamer, ppl are 1 min ahead of me in every race hehe, still enjoying the game!
That's all that matters ☺️
Same im just in it for fun
I started 2 weeks ago as well, so far it’s probably the best online experience I ever had basically against random people. No one tries to ram me. I quickly got up to C rating and S safety
I'm happy for you! But that's certainly not my experience. I always wind up running at the back of the pack where tons of people seem to enjoy running others into the wall . . . for which I get penalized for ignoring the limits of the track. So frustrating!
Does your DR go up when doing A races in sport? Just started today and there are icons above the daily A race saying the race doesnt affect my DR. Yet youtube videos show racers doing daily race a
@@JDavidChilders what is your fairplay rating ? If it's not S try to race as clean as you possibly can and ignore the trouble makers on track. It can take you a little while but once you get there it's a complete different game
@Antoine Delévacque I started a week ago and it took me 5 clean races to get t a "s" rating. Now it's a totally different experience without the carnage.
@@DMB00085 It doesn't.
Hey, this is a fun experiment (and a great video) but there’s still the fundamental fact that you were superior to everyone else, despite the same rating. You could do clean passes (and hence, not experience the mayhem) because of the difference in experience.
For us racing pretty much within our actual skill segments, the story looks a bit different.
Still, your final words of advice at the end definitely are valid!
Yeah I thought about the skill/experience level but there isn't much I can do about that one haha.
I was thinking about the same thing. Especially when you can lock up the brakes coming out of a turn and still fly past the guy you avoided hitting. That said the last statement (words of wisdom) made me love this video. I gave this video 1 like but wish I could give it 100.
right on brother. found his video very annoying and condescending.
@@ruebenlee8271 Snowflake!
As someone who started at E driver rating in GT7 and now at B, I can safely say that GT7 online is nowhere near as bad as some people are making it out to be....it's not perfect but no multi-player is perfect at launch of the game, it will only get better with time...It's just that, a lot of people play GT very competitively and want to be at the top, which leads to a lot of frustration on every single little incident of dirty driving or un deserved penalties or server crashes....which results in over reaction of minor problems that are always there in any newly released game
I actually can't think of any racing game that had such a good online from the very start of the game
looking for an intoxicated online multiplayer competitive game? in dream lol.
I started my sport experience yesterday after one month of offline playing and would say it is really good experience
I’m a gt7 fanatic now and I can say everyone’s experience varies, I’ve had far more dirty races with no etiquette or sportsmanship than clean but I will say when I can finally get a clean race in it makes it all the more sweeter.
No it's fuc... worse
I found the lower levels had a lot of dirty drivers in, which made it easier if anything to climb up to b, just steer clear of them, let them have their fights and pass when they go off or get penaltied
Started about a month ago. Beat the game (level 41 currently) and I've raced maybe 6-8 online races. Gotta say that aside from my bad wifi connection I've had a pretty good time with it. Usually finishing top 5 with a couple podium finishes. I've yet to feel that penalties were undeserved or player intentionally ruin the game. It is a online game and mistakes happen of connections are not optimal, you have to factor that in.
Only problem with sport mode for me is the penalties are wonky. I can slightly tap someone and I get a penalty and then the next lap someone can ram me off the road and get nothing.
Ghosting and penalties are so inconsistent. I would so much prefer to have a system where you crash hard enough, you are out of the race. All this hitting and ramming in GT7 Sport mode is so arcade like it’s depressing from the REAL DRIVING SIMULATION game which is an arcade game. Gonna have to race on ACC for some realism which is sad cuz i wanted to love GT7.
@@RebelMan- I'm in the exact same. I came from I racing and i think the penalty system (that's not perfect) but so much better! I also love ACC but im terrible at it and the doing set ups, but i sitll enjoy battling for 14th! I just wish GT7 would do something like when there is contact it slows both cars down significantly so it makes it really not worth anyone's while.
As a complete newbie to multiplayer, this video gave me a lot of hope.
I'm also a newbie skills-wise so I'm not going to be getting podium spots, but it looks like if I can get around the track without crashing I can do ok on some of these events.
The amount of positions you gained in the first 2 laps just from other players mistakes is astonishing.
Late to the party but anyways.
I tried 4 sport mode races (all daily C) with 0 wins because my best lap times are 40-50 seconds behind top drivers in Nordschleife with Gr.4 car. Also, my lap times were extremely inconsistent, I mean 30 seconds between the best ones and the worst ones. Of course I know I need to work a ton before even reaching D rank.
But I was there to work on Sportsmanship rating today.
So I tried not to quit, not to get into accidents, and avoid as many mistakes as possible.
Eventually, none of the races were clean enough, but I still managed to rank up my Sportsmanship rating from B to A.
However, even with Sportsmanship rating, I have a ton of work to do before reaching S. The thing is though, I only need to keep what I am doing right now.
Racing is actually all about myself, my car, the track and time, not other drivers.
just keep working at it. for some reason the slower races are harder for me too. I suck at Gr4, but do pretty well at Gr3.
I'd totally watch you commentate over your races!
It’s way harder than this, probably the hardest part is qualifying in a decent place after a while and starting every race at the back of the pack and never being fast enough or tuned right to even compete and have it be very fun. It’s almost more fun to just race circuits after a while cause people are just so much better.
it's debatable knowing the variety of custom servers
I think that's a skill issue more than anything else, mate.
I think that was a comparison of daily racing against real people and "circuit" racing agaist AI in GT7 World where you pick the race of your choice at the track you choose. Arent the only custom servers found in gt7 in the lobby?@sargaa8471
@@bbadstdad4423 I never played gran turismo 7 but I played sport and I can tell you that there also is custom games here and you can even check gran turismo 6 and 5 (there was online before that but it was way different)
and yeah I knew it was comparing solo but if you can play sport mode or as you name it daily race why won't you just play customs ?
This is the game from hell. In 14 online races I’ve had more bad experiences than good ones.
I started on GT7 two weeks ago and even If I'm bad and usually I take around 10th place and It's really fun!
I'm going in today after work, I just got the multiplayer and sport unlocked last night.
It tool everything I had to just shut it down and get to bed because, responsibility-_-
Can't wait till my route is done today.
Great video thank you exactly what i was looking for, venturing into the sport mode for the first time tonight with a complete noob rating should be fun!
It's not the newest drivers that cause problems intentionally. In my experience, the "B" lobbiare the most agregious. Everyone is hunting that A rating and it's more to lose.
I like your positivity 😂 thought that was Some nasty moves they were playing. But You really kept your cool and waited for the right moment. Just started playing GT7 again. Good memories playing it first in 1997 on ps1 and now on ps5 man, did they put out a Good race game. Can’t believe it. I’m going to Sub and look what content You are creating. Keep up the Good work! 👍🏽
Great vid 👌 i'm 7 weeks into my gran turismo journey. Loving every minute 🙂
I’ve just bought a ps5 and gt7 and loving it so far. This video settled some anxiety about going online and it being a demolition derby. I try to race fairly even against AI hoping it’ll get me into the correct mindset for racing real people. Thanks for the video :)
I believe because you are so skilled, you aren't being dinged, you will keep growing while others who aren't so skilled, get dinged on reputation points.
I know with me, I'm not so good and make mistakes, so it rings me... further sticking me with other not so great races
Yeah, I don't like the Sports mode, I am slow. But the times I did do it, I saw that if I engaged with the jerks, I had a lot less fun and more penalties, but if I was clean it was not too bad.
Thank you for this remarkably calm demonstration, now quite excited to try sport mode later! I've almost always played GT in career mode and been wanting more from the AI.
Stuff what Plebbitors say, miserable mopers spend twice the amount of time whinging on it, rather than playing and improving their racing!
I've tried controller and wheel and with a wheel you can control the hit from another player but with a controller, there's almost no saving a spin out if another player hits you...
Thanks for the video. Actually the kind of content I didn't know I was looking for! Noob racing is hard. I haven't played GT since GT2. Had to get a real job, etc... Just did my first sport race the other day. Qualified in Second. But got so nervous that I lost it on the first turn. I understand why that guy was flashing his lights so much. Happens when you push down on the left stick too hard. I guess the other thing is, maybe you should try these Noob races with a controller instead of a steering wheel? I'm sure you'd still be great, but I'm guessing there's a lot of Noobs out there like myself that only have a controller. Maybe I'll get myself one for Xmas...
I could listen to your race commenting all day - just hillarious.😂
Btw, I just had my first day of Sport mode, and I am a complete noob. The first couple of races, there where some not-so-gentleman driving, but I played nice so my S rating went to A. From there on everyone was nice. And I had to face how slow I was, so now comes the hard work.😁
Your smug sarcasm is hilarious. Subscribed because this is my kind of entertainment. LmFAo
I found your channel today and subscribed to it today 👍
wait, 2:06:144 is a good lap? you're a pretty good driver, and I always thought I was slow because I never managed to get past a 2:06:055 (my best lap at race pace) when I'm among other cars, this isn't meant to sound insulting my english still isn't brilliant, but you have me thinking I'm not as slow as I thought I was
Good stuff mate, I'm not in sport mode yet... Perth.
In 2 days i went from E-A to B-S. I will say 95% of my lobby had people that were wrecking ppl. One race i was in 2nd the guy in 1st spun out when he recovered he spun me out on the next turn to get his spot back. But E and D are the worst
I've tried sport mode twice so far and both times it glitches at the beginning and I don't actually get to race anyone. The cars stay at the start line ghosted
Started yesterday. 3rd lap got bronze fastest lap with a day to go. Can't wait to race against players
Got the game a month ago. Done the menus started racing in sport. Got to a DS license.
Now I am having amazing races and all the others [all DS] are usually clean.
Beats Project cars 2 [the game I left to race in GT7] any day!
Well i mostly try to learn the tracks then jump into the races there fun but my first race really fidnt go bad at all because i decided to just reasearch a tiny bit
As a complete novice, the first time you encounter the game actually telling you not to ram people is in missions. You can easily gain quite a bit of experience against race AI that will happily ram you, and if you learn to drive like that, it takes a bit if time for people to change their mindset. I bet that's the cause for a lot of the impatient driving. Nothing more satisfying than a clean race, but I'm not really encouraged to learn to drive like this until i start driving with other people. Especially if you go and neglect missions
Yeah it's a shame the single player isn't better and more realistic. Maybe next time they will get it right.
Did they change the penalty severity since 8 months ago? I only started Sport mode recently and the only contact penalty is for punting a car off the track, not for taps where the victim is still on the track.
I usually have more fun in the mid pack racing close with other drivers, its especially fun with those who are respectful and race clean...
Just yesterday in A race with D drivers starting out like me I’ve been rammed off the road, tapped on formers to spin around (and get penalty for going off track) and brake checked when in slipstream to smash into the car in front in a long flat out straight. Others got no penalty. It can be frustrating.
What’s worse cars get minimal penalty of 1-2s if any when they ram me off the road and I lose much more than that by going off track. Game should DNF much sooner
I went from E to B in 3 days playing online and been playing gt 7 for a month with vr and wheel
Does Sport mode start all drivers at the same skill level (later taking into consideration online abilities and achievements), or does the game/PSN network guage ability levels based on offline play and licenses acquired?
I think offline mode doesn't matter in the rankings. But practicing offline makes you a better driver.
Please make more videos like this!
Try a different region, I tend to see most the complaints come from either Europe or the Americas and there's generally a higher number of players in these regions
Love the post. Great racing. But honestly, you aren't showing a great "noob" experience. You've done all of this before, learned your lessons, "earned your speed". In general you are racing against folks who haven't ever done this before. I didn't catch your rating at the beginning, but if you are A plus rated in your last account, and you proved you know what you are doing by your quick jump to sport, you have a huge advantage over the competition. A lot of the dirty racing comes form folks really not knowing what they are doing. Someone tags them, they decide "F" It, and tag them or someone else because they are frustrated. All of that said, in general yes, the "sport mode is a cluster" is more self-fulfilling prophecy than anything. There are awful, filthy, mud-caked racers out there, but they aren't the majority.
It's the mid tier racers that are the worst. Good enough to know how to hit and get away with it. I had a guy that would lunge on me at too high of a speed and use me and everyone else to stay on the track. As soon as he didn't have anyone to bounce off of, he would fly off the track and start all over again. It was really annoying.
I have played all the gt but never played online until I tried on gt7 now I’m up to b rated driver and really enjoy it
I've found that if I use my quali braking points in the race, I overshoot. There is a significant difference in braking performance between quality and race.
The answer is tyre wear and also cold tyres. In qualifying you seem to start with warm tyres and they are always in perfect condition. Got to be careful in the actual race.
@@FormulaDigital I wondered if that was the case. Is the dirty air modelled as well?
@@howarddavies136 It seems to be, the slip is for sure and it feels like dirty air has an effect. Its really hard to test though.
People only complain on forums when they have bad encounters. The good races are rarely shared and talked about:/
C'mon now, how are you going to come from a clearly winning account and start the online experience in GT7 with a new account as a "noob?" You may have tricked the game into putting you into races with actual noobs, but you still brought your skills and years of experience from your real account with you. Your racing etiquette is refined. Your driving skills have been perfected. Your instincts sharpened. Meaning you just drive better. You hit less things like walls and other cars, avoiding earned penalties. When hit, you recover with little or no effort. When hit, you have exponentially better chances of recovery, which translates into less unearned penalties resulting from assisted contact with other cars and punts off-track into walls. Overall, your skill level makes last to first races against true noobs and their collective mistakes a cake walk. Unfortunately, as well-made and well-intentioned as this video is; without a frontal lobotomy, you can never truly experience gt7 sport mode from the perspective of an average newcomer to gt7 again. Trust me, I've gotten punted without cause into the wall, got a penalty for wall contact, and watched the offending driver disappear in the distance penalty-free more than once in the past week when I began racing the dailies regularly. I've started most of those races in fields with 3 to 10 second ranges in qualifying times in the field which can be rightfully connected with the number of racers trying to enter that particular race at that specific time, yet I still question that there isnt some way to drastically tighten up the field. Anytime you've got that big of a range in driving skills, you're asking for trouble. New slow drivers all over the track. New fast drivers with no patience. None of them predictable... the skills and experience you have in the end means you just cannot share the experience of drivers new to gt7 today. Nice try, though. I watched the whole video, and for those ppl looking to learn, there is plenty of valuable information. Thanks
Have to say, I really enjoy Sport Mode, it’s definitely not perfect especially the penalty’s but when it work it’s very good.
I need to find a noob lobby GT7 commentary video now. This is hularious. If ever needed, i can be one of the noobs! :D
What determines a driver's nationality, the country in which the PSN account was set up, or is this something that is changeable?
It's the PSN region. I have accounts with different flags based on which PSN they belong to. However this is on the PSN side, any game could chose to do something different if they wanted.
@@FormulaDigital Thanks. And one needs a different email address for each additional PSN account, correct?
Dude the commentary is so funny 😆
I'm a complete noob and my only complaint about the penalties comes from my own ignorance of the rules. Plenty of times I've gotten a penalty I knew exactly what I did, but a good amount of the time I have no clue lol.
I was really scared to get into this, but to be quite honest, it's really not that bad. I've only ever had a couple incidents and those were punished accordingly. Overall, a good experience.
Just drive well, as you would in real life, stay safe and don't be a dickhead, be patient and the rest will sort themselves out.
Started yesterday and already met 2 drivers that push me into the shadow realm ruining their own position
Honestly, there are definitely crappy people who get mad because you passed them. They will try to tap your bumper as you pass. Or the people who you passed a while back, just straight up, full speed smash into you at a turn. There are certainly drivers with no honor. However, I would say about 80% of the races can be done without scumbags.
Does anyone play online in VR2? Is it good or slower?
I started sport mode when i got psvr2 a few months ago. I just hit A ranking yesterday. Made me better and so much fun
Could be this part of the world. Good to online race in Aus
only really had one bad experience with a bad driver, but even then it wasn't even fustrating. I was able to pass the guy and move on with my life. Trying playing forza horizon online and tell me GT7 is unplayable online.
The ones complaining are probably the ones doing the ramming then getting revenge rammed than complaining about being rammed. Started a fresh noob a week ago in sport mode and really only had one chaotic experience.i just stayed racing clean and trying to improve my laps in qualifying.
The real problem is when you start in the middle of the pack in C and D lobbies.
Great vlog some of those comments had me in stitches 🤣 try racing the Spanish and Italians they side swipe all the time when you try and overtake 👍
Well explained
You are funnier than Super GT. I follow you now.
People just bitch to get comments and hate. Absolutely love this game.
Here in Latin America, I've got a bad crash and I was at 5th and I finished 8th bc of the crash. My car has spinned for 3s. Nevertheless I suck in this game.
you didn't get any penalty because you played with people far under your level and didn't have any preasure.
But I agree with you, youtubers and influencers are not fairwith the game and their endless made polyphony destroys the game. You were lucky, the penalty system was on but I garantee you when it's off, the experience is not the same.
Anyway, you should try now, the damages are on.
“Savoring every tasting mistake” well said
7 out of 10 races I got completely spun out of the track with me no chance to catch up to anyone -.-
If few more people crashed, you would have run out of funny comments.
Facts
my tactic is to try and race clean, and let all the others fuck each other over... doesn't always work of course but I'm about 9/10 of the way up to class C. just started removing the drive lines and apex signs... leaving the braking area in for now.
The seventies where cold, ugly, hungry and I promise you that you don't want anythin to to with it. Give me the nineties with free interconnection.
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This, was a very very good video.
I think anyone who's in sport mode is a car / racing enthusiast so they're not out to ram people unless they're provoked
The penalty IS broken. if you get a penalty, and somone just touches you. you get a bonus penalty on top of that lmao. The BoP system needs tweaking, on some cars, but that is no suprise
I really wish they would continue support for GT Sport. Make it like Iracing and just update the daily races every week. That's all I want. I don't like having to tune and spend so much cash to keep racing. I loved focusing on the driving in GTS. Now that's just gone cause they decided to scrap it? 😞
Tuning is prohibited in like almost every daily race in gt7
@@neblolthecarnerd You need money to race single player, to buy the cars necessary to race online unless you want to pay a ton of cash. Single player revolves around tuning, which requires you to spend that money just to pass one race and never use certain cars again. That's terrible when all you want to do is buy the cars you love and practice for online racing.
@@BigWillProductions1 how many cars can you rent for a sport mode race? Because from what I've played of the sport mode time trials you can rent any car in a car class for free.
@@neblolthecarnerd You can rent the car for the race but to practice with it outside of sport mode, you have to own it.
In GTS the worst I had to do was spend 2 real dollars to buy a car I hadn't tried before. I would take that into the same track as the current daily race or my favorite tracks to practice other techniques, and I'd drive it for hours on end to break in my skills. Then I'd set up an AI endurance race at a major disadvantage and try to get to the top of the grid. After all that, I'd take that car into sport mode.
In GT7 I start buy buying and tuning a hundred cars I have no interest in, either spending 30 hours doing this tedious work for nothing OR shelling out hundreds of real world dollars to skip through and get all of those cars without tuning or driving all the useless tutorial challenges. After ALL OF THAT, I end up with very little money and have to spend even more hours grinding challenges to save up the roughly 1 mil needed to buy some of these gt2s or lmps.
THEN I can START breaking in my skills with the new car only to realize it sucks because it isn't tuned! So now I gotta go back and grind more stuff to get the cash to tune the car to get better feel and results on track. Etc etc etc (not to mention the tracks are locked until you do all that crap no matter what so you can't just start practicing day one anyway)
I know people like the tuning gameplay and I get into it with certain cars, but as a guy who can't afford to PC race, I like that GTS allowed hardcore racers to hone their skills and focus on that from jump. This puts a 40 + hour wall in front of you and tells you to pay hundreds out of pocket to get around it faster. I'd honestly pay more real cash if I could get a 3 dollar car fully tuned from the start and just go to track.
I was racing online daily, building a ton of skill and was excited for the next game. Then one day all of that halted because I had to devote 40 hours to grinding this new game just to get back to where I started day one of GTS. That killed my drive and I spent 5 months not racing at all. I went back and now I'm working through the campaign, but that's a major kick I the teeth for people.
That's like the new street fighter comes out and all the dedicated online players have to spend 40 hours slowly unlocking every single character just to get back online. And when they do, they are tempted to pay a hundred dollars or more to get cash to improve the power of their fighters before they can even start to practice for the new crop of players on the new game. It takes the fun AWAY from one group and gives it to another who enjoy the grind. We could literally have both
@@BigWillProductions1 you don't have to tune the cars for daily races since they all run under bop and fixed setups. Also getting cars in gt7 is actually a lot quicker than in gts if you do the most efficient money grinding method which is like 2 million an hour.
They made gt7 a game and not an eSports simulator and personally I think it's better for it but it see the appeal of an eSports style game. However I don't think gran turismo should be one. Gran turismo has always been a game at heart and always should be. I was really really disappointed with GTS because as someone who mainly played singleplayer I had basically nothing to do and was essentially given the middle finger by pd. They released a spin off eSports title and acted as if that could fill the gap left by the lack of a mainline game.
Great video! I just picked up the game a couple weeks ago and haven’t tried sport mode yet, still making my way through the cafe menus.
Just curious, what sim setup do you use??
I am running at trak racer stand and a Thrustmaster tgt wheel. But whatever your setup just jump into online and have fun. So many people take it so seriously but it doesn't have to be that way and you don't need to be fast. Have fun out there.
I recently set up a new alt account and started GT7 over again. I will say that in the lower lobbies I found some super fun and mostly clean racing. What happened is that there is a top tier of drivers than have no justification of being in low rank lobbies (I suspect these are DR B - like me - or DR A accounts running alt accounts) and then there are the noobies. The noobies are dispatched pretty quickly and the field splits between those who know what they're doing and those that don't. I soon moved up to DR C/SR S in my alt account and I have so say that has been more fun than my current DR B main account. Guess it's fun when you're better than 70% of the competition.. LOL.
I wonder if there's more respect in the Asian servers? Would be interesting to do a video on that
How can I see my friends times? PS5
Noobs don't know to look for meta car. They pick car they like and race. I'm sure you noticed almost no WRX in your B race.
Unplayable garbage with gt7 bullies who can't drive I for one have given that side up
The dr system is crap, gain positions and dr still drops , gt7 seems to want me to remain D, when i made to B with my g29 next race cause i didnt make enough position dropped back to D, so why even try to go up, and im not the only Canadian having this happen
I think you have more patience, calm, and concentration
The defensive behavior of slow drivers demonstrated in this video is actually problematic and can get a penalty in real life.
Changing lanes over and over to block the traffic, closing the apex when it’s too late for others to react, dive bombing, etc - are examples of risky behaviors.
Causing a collision by punting someone to a barrier is only the most obvious way to cause an accident. Not following the rules is punishable too.
Though, GT7 is typically not considered a serious sim like iRacing to follow the real life rules.
Im bumling Cars from behind and its a lot if fun lol
Your so good bro.
I get no fun whats so ever out of sport mode NONE
Very entertaining.
I think a lot if people start shit without realizing.
Bro got a 1 in a 100 in daily race c
Very entertaining
Wouldn’t call 8:50 a sore loser. May not have been the best driver but he made sure to defend that position and that’s still racing 💯
I guess I'm just shit and need to practice more haha.
Now try in automatic using a controller!
Try American servers your opinion will change
Sport Mode is trash. Simply a venue for online azz hats to ruin your racing day. Played about ten races, was knocked of the track at least twenty times. You have fun though.
I think I’m just bad at it