The AK in Ready or Not
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ม.ค. 2023
- The majority of Western law enforcement agencies use some kind of 5.56x45 carbine as their service rifle - usually an AR15. However, AKs remain the most popular rifle across the world, and sees constant use in military conflicts around the world to this day. But how well do they perform as a law enforcement rifle?
Music:
1) Farewell of Slavianka
2) From Russia with Love
3) Red Alert 3 Soviet March
AKs among U.S. Police Departments:
www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2... - เกม
“The AK has been involved in numerous conflicts”, as in literally every conflict since it came out of the factory lmao
LMFAO even the creator regretted inventing it
It's still an accurate statement, however claiming it's been in every conflict since it was manufactured is 100% incorrect.
@@Ripa-MorameeCan you name some that arent
@@Ripa-Moramee how is it 100% incorrect? would you be able to name one conflict where it doesn't appear
@@kp-legacy-5477without looking it up I'm guessing the Falkland war because both sides were fal chads
The real reason we love 7.62x39 is because of surplus ammo, may your powder stay dry and your barrel stay warm
Snorting corrosive salts is funny
May your brass goblin RSO forever be disappointed
@@andreaholcock8992 those guys are the worst
Well this hasn't aged well...
@@PR0T0_lmfao, so true
"The hammer, the sickle, the AK-47."
-Ahoy, 2015
Timeless video
@@civilianuseonly Indeed. And now he finally uploaded a new episode of iconic arms as well. Dude is the pinnacle of quality over quantity.
Ahoy has some of the best videos on this platform
especially if we are talking about this ak which is an american made arsenal slr107ur...
3:34 you sent his soul flying farther than his body
"Higher caliber weapons with poor penetration are often not chosen as these firearms are capable of overpenetrating" wtf am I listening to xD
I think he meant more rather than poor.
If he said poor he probably meant against body armour because 7.62 is worse at penetrating armour than 5.56
Not to mention also: familiarity. Law enforcement that tends to use AKs tends to use them in countries where AKs are ubiquitous, and that familiarity aids training and thus capability. It also means that there's a good logistical supply of training ammunition.
There's a few police departments in the US that have them a patrol rifles. The first one that comes into mind is a county in Alaska.
One thing to be noted that's interesting is that the reasons why 7.62x39 is not as loved as much as a LEO/Mil round, are that the slow heavy bullet, and generally lower penetrating power are what have given it a new life as a very cheap robust hunting round in numerous platforms from civvie AKs to bolt actions, oh how times change.
One of the greatest pleasures in life is magdumping surplus 7.62x39 ammo with friends
Wrong. You’re just incorrect. The 7.62x39 has significantly more penetration than 556. This is verified in numerous tests even on TH-cam. The fact it’s so slow and heavy helps it not shatter apart on impact and allows the momentum to carry it through whatever it’s hitting.
@@Rokaize You guys are both correct. The thing is, the faster 5.56 round can have better AP capabilities against armored plate given the right bullets simply due to the speed. While the AK is much better at shooting through cover even with it's basic ammo. Two different types of potential penetrative capabilities.
@@Rokaize nope, higher velocity is much better for penetration. you seemed to have missed the use of the word "generally", meaning it's not in all cases that this is true.
@@cr1tikal_arc Nope. You are an imbecile.
Super slick vid!
There are some other things that aren't touched upon in Ready or Not:
7.62x39 while very similar to .300 Blackout, might be a tad inferior and a lot of the surplus ammo aren't what you'd call precision shooters even out of an AR in 7.62x39, BUT they are cheap in bulk even with current day events. Helps that it has a huge number of companies producing the round due to its prevalence, compared to 5.45 which is harder to find.
The folding stock of certain models. The one depicted in game uses the left side folding stock with latch, a feature that isn't particularly mentioned but something that may come to use for real life. AKs don't have a buffer in the stock, which allows users to use it with the stock folded in a pinch. It's not particularly as accurate or consistent, though for shooting in a car, or needing to deploy it from storage or slung, it's a quick action. Or if you really have no time to deploy that stock, long as there's a round in the chamber, get it off safe and start blasting.
The manual of arms isn't as fast or intuitive vs an AR, but if you're wearing thick gloves, the big controls are easy to work with and its function is pretty easy to understand. This comes hand in hand with its use in colder environments, where you'd probably wanna stay warm whilst using it.
Nonetheless, while the AK has flaws, it was designed with the duty to be used in combat. Its long time service, huge array of aftermarket support that very few other weapons barring the AR15 can match and proven track record mean that it's gonna be around for a while.
Great points! And for CQB, surplus ammo is probably accurate enough to do the job
Plus there are different types of AKs made by a bigger assortment of manufacturers from a variety of countries that are either Nato or non nato in standard
.300blk is weaker than 7.62x39, and 7.62x39 ARs are horrible.
The reason to use it right now asides from appeasing the Soviet-aesthetics enthusiasts is there's no CZ Bren 2 (aka Czech SCAR or Sensible SCAR) cartridge in 7.62x39 yet in-game, for the purpose of LARPing as GIGN.
From what I've heard, the Bren 2 doesn't function well chambered in 7.62x39. Would still be cool to have though.
@@civilianuseonly Guess I could have read French to know the field performance ouiiiii.
People said couldn’t they just use .300 blackout but then again I remember they’re French.
@@civilianuseonly Civvie bolt carrier lacks the tungsten weights but every 7.62 front end is the same, so civvie 7.62s are over-gassed.
don't talk about that country-shame of a thing such as the bren
@@spartanrangermetrowhat's wrong with bren 2
'The AK is a rifle that needs no introduction'' *Proceeds to give an introduction*
I think the AK is an excellent weapon to give to the AI since they seem deadly accurate despite it's recoil and with how heavy it hits the suspects always go down super quick.
AKs are heavy??? 90% of Aks in the wild are stamped and have comparable weight to average M-4s..
Bigger bulkier projectile that can deliver more energy to the target whilst having less armor penetration than 5.56 (which might be a advantage as main goal of the law enforcement agencies are to arrest people alive rather than kill them) might be more helpful.
also the fact that 5.45x39 ,7.62x51 nato, 7.62x54r, 5.56x45 can not have a good subsonic loads ( the 5.45 subsonic loads were massive failure to the point where it couldn't leave the barrel of AK74 and was only able to be fired from AKS74U with alterations to it's gas system) Makes it even better for suppressing (also the subsonic 7.62x39 was what inspired 9x39)
lastly the fact that you only need 300mm of barrel to get the best out of the cartridge makes it a appealing option and hence you see the AK-103,4 or Bren 2 in 7.62x39 still being in service.
Very good point on subsonic loads.
i know this video is old but you forgot the most important part about why people use AKs:
they look cool
So what I got from this video is we should expect a polar bear boss fight in an upcoming Ready or Not update.
Love the legend of the Alaskan police AK's. Would love to study some high quality photos to build one with an Alaska state trooper theme !
Likewise - it's such an interesting story
I really want the AK74M to be added. The caliber makes much more sense since it's closer to 556
Not only it is closer to 5.56, but it got less recoil and has better wounding profile using just it's ball munition/standard point version.
AK-100s series are basically capable of using both NATO and Soviet rounds, this include 7.62x51, 7.62x54, 5.56, 5.45
Would make a lot of sense, and looks a lot better than the ak in game
I'm not sure if there would be enough 5.45x39, but I'd like to see one as well
@@civilianuseonlyconsidering we have tons of AR variants as we're finally get a bullpup (would be awesome to see the Ukrainian 7.62x39 malyuk/vulcan bullpup), would be neat to see a few AK variants as well. Maybe a VZ-58 or Norinco Type-56, a CMMG MK47 Mutant, Polish 5.56 Beryl rifles, and 5.45 AKs, etc.
@@OperatorMax1993 I'd want to see AK variants used by real police forces in the game.
they should put the 5.45x39 akm 74u or the 100 series, its the same as 5.56 but cooler
Also, 5.45x39 has superior wounding profile than 5.56x45, it's called poison bullet afterall.
It's one thing to design high velocity rifle round that can penetrate, but AK can also be made to shoot one that slightly slower than AR-15's rounds but basically "flipping wildly" when stuck in flesh.
And something like 9x39mm that chamber AS VAL/VSS Vintorez basically have this small pocket of air to allow more volatile movement of bullet into the flesh, even more messier wound that could be caused.
The wound channels of 5.45x39 are psychotic
You mentioned the VAL, you get a like!
They are civilian hunting rounds in 556 that outperform 5.45 by a lot. Also the latest 556 M855A1 is nasty.
really, the "poison bullet" myth in 2023?
@@czwarty7878 thats internet for you.
while it might not make much sense in the context of US law enforcement i would love to see more AK pattern rifles. especially the ak74, always loved 5.45x39
the french GIGN uses 7.62x39 a lot with their CZ Bren 2, because it packs a punch and is not as cumbersome as any rifle chambered in 7.62x51 NATO. Also, they care a lot more about stopping power rather than penetration. They made that choice of ammunition before .300 blackout became popular.
Finally a new video, great one!
Humbled that you were waiting on a new one. Makes it worth all the effort
I was gonna throw shade for the... hit or miss quality in the vid. buuuut eh fuck it. it was 10 months ago. plenty of time to get better at making things.
deff throwing out a lotta myths as common sense tho'
This channel is going places
Fingers crossed
The best thing about SLR47 is you just use the primary rifle with only a flashlight just fine
Yes 7.62 is a bigger round but 5.56 is just as likely to over penetrate since it is really fast which makes it effective against body armor
Fun fact: author used a video with russian hunter assaulted by a bear, but in the rest of that video hunter not just did not shoot the bear, but even make it out alive
Unfortunately, TH-cam does not like videos of animals getting shot
@@civilianuseonly he didn't shot the bear tho
Aks are the most badass looking guns ever, every one of them, nobody can tell me otherwise
I mean a advantage the AK has is that it does exsist in many different calibers, like i would like to see one of the 5.45 or 5.56 variants in the game.
I'm still waiting for them to add 5.45 variant and/or ak-74/12 (though it won't fit the game setting, it will be a good addition nevertheless)
And an ability to finally fold your stock is also something that should be in the game :")
Granted, the SA-58 is also not really realistic, matter of fact a AK platform being used is more realistic than the SA-58, theres quite a few Police squads in the US that allow their crew to use a weapon of their choice and quite a few choose AKs, especially in Alaska due to the AK handling cold temperatures better on average.
I hope they add more AKs in the future, theres AKs like the AK-100 that can be chambered in 5.56 aswell
AKs are more accurate than 80% of shooters can shoot, this whole accuracy argument is just annoying at this point, it only started off as American propaganda during the Cold War.
I always have a blast with the AK.
I really wish they add an official AK 104 eventually, it's still longstroke ofc, but as far as AKs go, it's pretty flat shooting.
Interestingly, British SAS have shown some interest in getting a western carbine for 7.62x39, specifically an SBR for use where 7.62 is likely to be abundant. Nothing to do with law enforcement, but pretty cool nonetheless.
This gun will finally have a purpose when they release the polar bear level.
Fun facts about the 7.62x39 round compared to the 5.56x45, due to the 7.62s fatter round with less powder it actually has a tendency to have less velocity meaning it will penetrate less than the 5.56, in a AK with a shorter barrel you could see how this would be seen as a better round to use compared to the 5.56 in many situations. 7.62 is also worse against armour since the round is bigger but with less powder since the projectile itself is heavier it also drops off quicker, the upside of this bigger round is that it makes it INCREDIBLY effective in terms of lethality, if you can land hits on non-armoured spots with JHP rounds that person is practically dead in 1-2 shots, armour would get hit so hard it would dent or shatter, causing heavy bruising. So this gun would most likely knock most people unconscious or on their ass with 1-2 shots to the plate carrier.
I love using a Suppressed AK47 in RoN. It drops enemies faster than the SCAR that I was running
1:08 those are military police, so they use the standard issue rifles like all the other mp's. While the Finnish police use G36's.
makes sense for places like alaska, it was made for a war in a snowy biome
Very interesting.
Aks are very interesting
very good video plus 500 social credit
This is a really good video on AKs in law enforcement, just don't know what this has to do with Ready or Not
I can't wait for the next update in Ready or Not where they add polar bears into the game as another hazard, making the ak a viable solution for clearing igloos and cabins.
good choice comrade
300. Blackout JHP is op, can delete enemy after 1 shot in hand or leg
Where is Val or Vintorez,why this weapon not in the game 😭
I tested all the guns in RON and found out G36 is easily the most deadliest weapon out there to go for deadly cleansing. It was very frustrating to shoot something like 3-4 rounds with any SMG and barely seeing any glimpse of surrendering or dying.
Whats the Music at the Begin?
Why does this only have 150 views?
Brother, in russia the flashbang police use is so powerful that depending on the size of the room and if there is no windows or the windows are closed, the pressure generated from the explosion can easily kill someone. Why would they care about over penetration? I mean, look at Beslan school siege they used multiple T-72 tanks into a hostage situation lol
nice video anyways
The 7.62x39 just punches harder, but has been proven to do worse against the 5.56x45 when it comes to penetration. It's slower, and heavier. There's not a huge difference; it is very a powerful round. But the 5.56 remains the "better cartridge", on paper that is. I'd assume that in theory, the 7.62x39 is generally better suited for combat (without taking accuracy into account, that is) due to simply packing a bigger punch thanks to the projectile having more mass than the 5.56's, potentially having more stopping power against targets both with and without body armor. Still. There's no question, 5.56x45 has better penetration all around.
the actual reason is that they dont have a better one and dont want to spend money on the police rifle program. Like cmon, its Russia
Alaska is in the United States.
AK switched from 7.62x39 to 5.45 quite long time ago.
Why does it have such an inconsistent full auto rate of fire? it stutters for some reason
I feel this so hard
7.62x39 is an accurate round, its range is what is limited
I like being the one guy that uses the AK cause honestly. The short package with an intermediate cartridge works great in CQB, working tighter corners is a big bonus. Also I just love the AK platform, the only thing I wish RON had was the p320 or a few dif cal glocks so I can run a glock in 45 acp. The only other rifle I would use is probably a Galil Ace I would love to see one of them get introduced.
you say the 7.62x39 has a greater risk of over penetration, are you sure? It is a heavier projectile with a lower muzzle velocity than 5.56x45mm therefor lower chance of over penetration? Unless you are confusing it with a different NATO cartridge 7.62x51mm which I'm pretty sure will have a greater chance of over penetration?
Weight carries penetration better. 7.62x39 is known for its ability to penetrate cover fairly better than 5.56
@@fen3311 apparently so I looked into it a little bit more because I couldn't sleep, apparently cover it penetrates better because it is less likely to ricochet which makes sense due to a higher mass projectile and more energy. However if it doesn't ricochet (which it won't on soft tissue or armour) higher velocity and a smaller surface area should over penetrate (the target) better? So I'm guessing if you hit the target and there is a civilian or something you don't want to hit behind the target 7.62x39 is better? If you are spitting lead everywhere fully automatic or are a terrible shot you are more likely to penetrate cover and cause collateral damage through light walls with the 7.62x39 maybe?
@@Wrathington Yeah close enough. Tiny fast bois like 5.56 will use their speed and thin profile to penetrate armour better, but they tend to break and fragment after that. Which goes for any other barrier too, not that they wont fly through a few drywalls. At the end of the day the differences are tiny enough that you're squeezing out tiny tradeoffs, usually 5.56 comes out ahead.
@@Wrathington these are really really minor differences compared to the main thing, which is simply are you using pentrating ammo like FMJ or are you using non penetrating ammo like Hollows. This is gonna make infinitely more difference than the minor dfferences between 5.56 and 7.62*39, Chances are if 556 will go through a thing, 99% of the time 7.62 would and vice versa.
AK’s are just as accurate, the myth stems from a multitude of reasons, one being the 7.62x39 being fired out of a standard AKM 16.3in barrel has a MV of 2,300 Ft/s vs 5.56 coming out of a standard M4 14.5 in barrel at 2,970 Ft/s, reducing range for the 7.62 one of the many reasons Russians adopted 5.45 and giving a narrative that it’s not “accurate” wrong it just can’t reach as far shooter dependent tho, another reason which tends to be forgotten is it being widely portrayed to the the “bad guy gun” and the AR platform to be the “good guy gun” by media and cinema which is plagued with false information about firearms in general but you can see where that goes, and with penetration yes the 7.62x39 has potential to over penetrate then the 5.56 (but only on soft targets in comparison)such as just the human body itself. slower heavier rounds carry and retain their weight upon impact of soft targets, and don’t become fragmented when passing through, while smaller faster rounds such as the 5.56 preform better on penetrating hard targets IE, steel or ceramic plates or points of cover the enemy might take, but for soft targets small spitzer shaped rifle rounds like 5.56,5.45,.300blk become fragmented in soft targets at shorter ranges IE a CQB situation inflicting more internal damage as fragments pass through bones, tissue and maybe arteries. I agree there AKs at least 7.62 AKs aren’t the ideal CQB weapon in a law enforcement aspect because 8 out of 10 times your target isn’t wearing armor at least not plates either ceramic or steel, modern AK-74Ms,AK-105s or even a god forbidden 5.56 AK would be great I do hope to see a 105 in the game seeing as the FSB uses it for their law enforcement and CT operations. Also I’m not being a dick about it just a little correction the Mmmm the “it’s not as accurate” claim that’s already been a debunked gun myth for decades
I’m also just reading some of the comments some people did correct but it’s still nice to put good information out, again not being a dick lol
Good points! Yes, perhaps I should have worded it as that 5.56 is more effective at longer ranges. The one thing I would note is that for 5.56x45 specifically, the fragmentation effect happens more reliably with specific ammo (M193) at higher velocities. Some 5.56 cqb guns like the MK18 may not be able to consistently deliver rounds that fragment.
But of course, this is mostly me nitpicking. Shot placement is the key factor in how effective any gun will be.
@@civilianuseonly russian law enforcement doesnt use 7.62 any more, they use 5.45 and 9mm, they had the vityaz which was like an ak smg, so pretty much pp 19 ak 74m and ak 105s for the fsb, with zenitcostuff
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I heard this is... AKs are less accurate, but for the difference to be noticeable, you need to compare vs a 20" 5.56 barrel, and you need to be out at 500m, AND the guns need to be in a vice. Which translated into "Yes, technically less accurate, no, you will not even notice in practice."
I'snt a lot of special forces used ak back in the cold war?
2:30 that's a nice 7.62 ak
"Overpenetration"
SA58 would like to have a word with you.
I like the vid but there's no basis behind that statement of AKs are less accurate than the AR15 also comparing 762 to 556 isn't a fair comparison in my opinion because with the right ammo 556 going to go through a lot more than 7.62 will moving a lot faster
you sound like dathi de nogla if he didnt have the irish accent
(5:16) In my opinion having no suppressor on your weapon makes it perform better in close quarters combat, the extremely loud noise from firing a weapon indoors paired with a bigger muzzleflash is quite disorientating for the person getting shot at.
3:07 is that guy tom hanks or do I need to put my glasses on?
Most use it because it's an AK, I use it because it's the closest I'll get to an ASh-12 in ready or not...
We are not the same...
0:38 wait why you say "high caliber weapons with low penetration are not chosen" and then immediately after you say they over-penetrate? Either is a contradiction or I missed the point 'cause i thought a low penetration was a good thing
its terminal ballistics a 5.56 round is supposed to shatter inside the human body and fragment so the bullet doesn't just fly cleanly through you but 7.62x39 is a way older bullet made before terminal ballistics were understood so it just hits you, maybe tumbles and goes through you and because the bullet is way heavier it retains its momentum
@@waldowin23 yes but the ready or not context where they use very short barrels would it still reach the right velocity? I don't know but I doubt.
@Delta92F I don't know I'm pretty sure that 7.62x39 out of a short barrel is still a bit better performing than 5.56 because 5.56 relies almost completely on velocity
@@waldowin23 at the end is a very specific topic, would be cool if some youtuber did a dive on this argument and run some test.
Have you heard of 5,45x39 tho? Lots of AKs are chambered in that and that's what most russian military and spec ops uses x)
farewell of slavianka
3:30 best clip
WAS THAT A 9 BANGER!?!?!?!?
Yep, looks like it's not in the game anymore
sad@@civilianuseonly
my uncle used to work for a police department that let you use your own gear with review of what you want to use and permission, and he chose to run an AKM style rifle as his rifle of choice.
Ready or Not needs to fix it's optics, looking at some of those red dots is terrible lmao. It's like a yard away from your face.
7.63x39 is just as accurate as 556. AKs are amazing accurate when build tight and of high quality. Not the mass produced ak of the world. But a piece of art
Would love to be able to shoot a high end ak
@@civilianuseonly I've goat a kalishnakov usa 103 pattern with cold forged barrel. Will put 7.62 inside each other at 200 yards iron sights.
@@theamericangamer2696 Good to hear KUSA is doing good stuff
Correct me if I'm wrong, but since 7.62 is a larger bullet moving slower, doesn't that help mitigate overpenetration compared to 5.56?
I'm not an expert, but from what I understand, the size of the 7.62x39 enables it to penetrate thicker types of cover that 5.56x45 would not be able to.
But the most important factor for limiting overpenetration of either round will be using appropriate ammo (Hollow points, frangible) over FMJ rounds.
@@civilianuseonly Huh. Fascinating, I figured it wouldn't get through.
No, the 7.62 will retain more stability and speed after penetration. The 5.56 has more penetration capability due to its higher speed, but looses it faster after penetrating an object.
Penetration is really complicated but the main two things are rigidity and energy. Energy is Mass*velocity and Rigidity is, well, are we firing pepper balls or steel slugs?
RIFLE IS FINE
I totally didnt get the point about how .223 is better at police operations than 7.62. Well first- 5.56 ment to deal max damage after penetration be it shattering or more violent energy transfer than bigger cal. Its bone blender and police need to arrest, not to execute. They're not counter terror.
And bullets anyways will, if given the chance, overpenetrate many obstacles like dozen of drywalls, multiple doors and if shot too close even a brick wall (go look up how mosin-nagant in 7.62х53 almost shoots throguh rail. AK-74 and AR-15 might shoot through brickwalls).
And main reason why some countries use ak for special operations is that army is traning with it and operators usually chosen from infantry or other branch. With police however its too complicated. Sometimes army trains them treating same as recruits, sometimes its armed forces of state agencies (taxes, border, anticorruptional bodies) and its something inbetween of PMC and millitia. Or its just police officers good enough to be trusted a gun PD can buy and traning provided by same department. Its a spectrum from "alot of funds no fredom" to budget judge Dredd cosplay honestly.
you talk about 7.62x39 in the vid, and it's true for the game, but model in game it looks like modernised AKS-74U with AK-74M stock. AKS-74U was never chambered in this round. And there's no reason for it- would be too damn powerful for already lightened platform and shorter barrel- it weighs less than MP-5A3 and only 3 cm shorter.
the one in the game is a Bulgarian arsenal slr107ur there are many aks variants not just the standard russian ones
didnt think the RON AK used 7.62. thought it was based of the AK74 series. so 5.45MM
did you look at the magazine
hold on, the Ak is only inaccurate to to unfortunately common manufacturing mistakes and the way the irons are used
I hate how they hold the weapon, why even put a grip?
You'll find a lot of people don't fully wrap their whole hand around grips, usually resting their thumb against the gun, or in a clamp style.
I mean just look at the angled grip. You're not supposed to put your thumb through the hole or anything.
Anyway that's the combat grip. It looks a little short, stubby, and slightly angled. Probably not the best to fully grasp onto.
Rifle is fine.
556 is fast and Break in to peaces inside a body.
This create a big wound, a bear would Not survive that
imagine how compact it would be with a bullpup conversion
I hate that.
@@Soluscide there are some sexy bullpup ak conversions bro you can't deny that
@@lieutenanttom9733 I definitely can
7.62x39 has way, WAY less penetration than 556.
the slr 106 is a 5.56
this is an SLR-107
To say AKs arent as accurate is misleading. Yeah at 400 meters the AR will have a tighter grouping than most AKs but its not like you will not hit the target at 100 meters with an AK and will with an AR besides in CQB law enforcement engagements, weapon weight and how the ammo performs is more important than accuracy. You want a light gun that has little recoil and allows hollow point bullets to expand well to drop suspects easier and not have to worry about overpenetration.
HK417 with 7.62x51 is the supreme gun.
3:14 lol
AK is the best. It is an excellent and deadly weapon.
Stamped reciever AKs are quite light. My WASR-10 is significantly lighter than my AR
A standard AR is lighter than a WASR-10 unless you tacticool your AR or have a bull barrel for precision/hunting.
@@UrbanDefenseSystems they're both 7 pounds or less.
@@rustys.1070 A wasr-10 is listed at 7.5lbs everywhere I look, my WASR 10 feels heavier than my AR as well. You can get an AR down to 6lbs flat still in workable/duty condition, but I've seen people go even lower with 4.5-5lb guns where they use lightweight bolt carriers (I wouldn't trust that) and lightening cuts. All that being said, I trust my WASR more than my AR, so it's not like I am trying to crap on the AK, but facts are facts, it's generally heavier.
@@UrbanDefenseSystems online gun weights mean pretty much nothing. larue's website had the shipping weight listed for many years. I don't think their rifles are all 17 pounds.
@@rustys.1070 Though that is true, it's quite obvious when it's the shipping weight vs actual rifle weight, since you're not getting a 17lb rifle unless you're shooting some PRS competition abomination.
"Not as accurate as an AR-15"
God that shit triggers the fuck out of me, both rifles are accurate out to their effective ranges. Stop perpetuating this bullshit myth that the AK is inaccurate. My Saiga .223 groups better than my $1000 AR-15.
Most eastern police agency's use a mix of not only ak47's and akm's but the ak74 witch fires 5.45 by 39mm witch is similar to 556, not only that but the rifle that is seen in ready or not is literally NOT a real gun, its an aks74u frame with a akm pmag shoved into the bottom of it, it should fire 5.45 but with that magazine it fires 7.62??? kind of stupid but its not the only gun goof in the game, not only that but a US law enforcement officer likely would not be able to use that rifle due to some sort of code or some law. Or maybe even department policy on patrol rifles. For a selling point of making the game super realistic they kind of just fucked up on this one. Also, its been proven that yes the ak is reliable but it is just as reliable in an urban setting as a ar15.
its a real gun its a Bulgarian arsenal slr107ur there is a huge world of ak variants not just the ones made in russia
3:15 *craps pants*
Ready or not is scarier than any horror game I've played
Polar bears...? Bro.
www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/04/12/aks-among-u-s-police-departments/
@@civilianuseonly The fact that you don't understand what I'm saying to you is honestly embarrassing. For you that is.
You can almost write a whole book on AK myths. The reason it isn't used as much in the USA is primarily because it's been seen as the weapon of the enemy. Not due to any real negatives.
Uh, it's a bit more federal than that. The real reason is that the US bans imports of most of these rifles.
@@Schaden-freude It didn't for a long time. It's a much more recent issue. Like I said, for many years it was seen as a commie gun and the propaganda was in full force. Nowadays yes, that is the biggest issue. Now that gun owners are a little smarter, now we can't buy Chinese or Russian imports.
1:07 🇫🇮 Finland mentioned!!!
"Not as accurate as ar15s" (In an cqb context) I feel that video is not as well researched.
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This AK in Ready or Not is in 5.56. As far as I know, the SA-58 is the only 7.62 rifle in the game
Unless they fixed the caliber in the 1.0 update. I distinctly remember when choosing jhp or ap that it said 5.56 or 5.45. Definitely wasn't 7.62 despite the gun markings and mag saying 7.62 (It confused me enough to see if it was a bug when I saw not far back).
There are AK platforms in 5.56/5.45 cal, especially 5.56 in the usa. I've even seen one in a gun store in 9mm. The issue isn't the caliber with the AK, it's the fact that it's just less versatile and modular than the AR platform. The AK platform just isn't that good at being adapted and configured to most police uses. That and having police trained with a specific weapon platform is very ideal. That's why nearly every police force rifle looks like a AR-15, but with different lengths, rail mount locations, and sometimes different calibers (excluding SMG's).
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though. I don't really know why I wrote this aside from it bugging me that it seemed like they acted like every AK is in 7.62. That's like saying every Glock is 9mm, every AR is 5.56, and every FN is in 5.7
@@lilacsnek6724 That is an interesting note, because the mag really does make it seem like a 7.62x39
@@civilianuseonly I looked at the game for the first time after 1.0 released and yeah it is now 7.62. My other points still stand though. I don't really think its the cartridge's fault, but the platform itself that makes it a very niche and rare use enforcement rifle. It's only real perks are It's reliability under abuse and the abundance of 7.62 variants and the ammo for it. Still surprised tohear that the 7.62 variant saw use but not the 9mm
it has always been in 7.62x39
@@rustys.1070 the few weeks after it was introduced it was 5.56. I remember me and my friends at the time having a whole conversation about the existence of 5.56 ak's because of it
Just look at eastern europe
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