A hint for the 9mm people IYKYK(Comments): th-cam.com/video/fdZP5Eaq9TA/w-d-xo.html FYI TH-cam loves deleting comments. Ive seen a bunch get deleted, but I was able to read them from my notifications. A lot of good size ones with stories get wiped.😢 *** A C&R is an FFL, it is not a Dealer FFL. There is a very big difference, you do not need to have a storefront with this FFL, its a personal one for collecting 50+ year old firearms. Visit the ATF website, they have the form available. Its an easier process than applying for a firearms license in my state.
I know a vietnam vet whose preferred firearm was the m1 carbine. He continued to carry it as his duty rifle when he became the county sheriff. Swore by it.
M1 Carbine was very popular in Vietnam. Audie Murphy carried one, he would pop the Germans in the forehead. Read his book, to hell & back. In the Pacific. Some Marines liked the knock down of the Garand. Some liked the light weight fast follow up shots with the carbine. M1 Carbine was a liked rifle for over 40 years of wars. Still has a place today. One of my favorite rifles. More so getting older, due to the light weight, low recoil. Add reflex sight & light, great home defence, with 30 round mag.
My granddad also carried one as a Bonner County Sheriff in Idaho. He referred to it as his truck rifle and was happy when he retired and only used it to dispatch animals hit by vehicles. He loved that rifle and his life depended on it if ever needed. I grew up shooting them almost every weekend as it went out to the range every trip. It is 1942 Inland Carbine he left to me with the rest of them. He also had a Saginaw, IBM, a Underwood Typewriter Company, and a Rock-Ola Manufacturing Corporation M1’s. These have been some of my favorite rifles since childhood and I’d never get rid of any one of them as they all have just a little bit of a different personality and just feel a bit different when shooting. With the same ammo the Inland will definitely shoot about 1/2” tighter groups than the standard 2-21/2” groups they all average at 100 yards.
There is nothing wrong with the M1 Carbine. Used as it was intended, it was adequate for the job. All too often you see the Carbine compared to the M1 Garand. Two completely different weapons for two completely different jobs. The Garand was a Main Battle Rifle and the carbine was intended more or less for close in combat. The Carbine was initially intended to replace the M1911 pistol as a side arm. It wound up being issued to crew served weapons crews such as Mortars and Machine guns, truck drivers and such who would be hard pressed to use a full size battle rifle.
Correct. The concept of a Personal Defense Weapon isn't new. This was the US Army's version 80 years ago. It could also be thought of as an intermediate cartridge weapon, similar to the Stg-44 in function, though without the full-auto capability (until later).
@@waynecoulter6761 Correct. My Father was one of the original 3,000 volunteers to join Merrill's Marauders. He had plenty of experience with the M1 Carbine and wasn't impressed with it's effectiveness on stopping Japs. He survived that campaign, only to get his left leg shot off in Korea. Retired DAV as a MSGT. God rest his soul.
My dad was in Vietnam, and he said a lot of guys still carried those. Many of them preferred them to M-16s because they were reliable and easy to shoot. In thick jungle the range of 5.56x45mm was irrelevant, and M1 Carbines tended to fare very well in denser brush.
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@@guaporeturns9472 You wouldnt want to sit around for 20 extra minutes of pauses, down time, etc. It's always going to be edited, but I leave misses in. 4:07
My dad made all 4 combat jumps with the 82nd in WWII. He preferred the Carbine above all other weapons. Could carry a lot of ammo and still had room for an extra canteen. Said he was always thirsty. Said it stopped people just fine.
My dad was a drill Sargent at fort Benning, Georgia, during Korea. He loved the carbine. He said it was the only rife a airborne man ever needed. He loved how much ammo one man could carry.
Former Marine Corp Veteran (24) yrs) here, also a marksmanship instructor. The M1 Carbine would be a great un-close effective rifle. The M1 Garand will always be a fantastic long range rifle. A few of us used them in Vietnam with a 9x39 snipers scope, along with Remington 700's and the Garand always held up well. Thanks for the memory. SEMPER FI !!!
The M1 carbine wasn't meant to replace the Garand. So, yeah, it was marginal as a battle rifle It was meant to replace pistols for those whose primary duties didn't have them carrying a rifle. Officers, tankers, etc. Easier to shoot effectively than a pistol, and didn't mark the user as a primary target.
Audie Murphy recovered, repaired and carried one. He fondly recalled the serial number 20 years after the war. That guy was most definitely a front line man
@@mattburnett4185 He also claimed he wore out several Thompson sub machine guns. What I am thinking we dealt with was a media that quoted everything without challenging anything. His most famous incident actually involved a Browning .50 M2.
My dad made all 4 jumps with the 82nd. He preferred the carbine , and he was as front line as it gets. Likes it because he could carry a lot of ammo and had room for an extra canteen. Said it stopped enemy combatants just fine
Of course it replaced the garand. My father trained with the garand in basic training in 1943 but was issued the carbine when he went to New Guinea. They have a 15 round magazine but he said they would modify them by welding them together to make 30 and 45 round magazines.
I was an Infantry advisor with MAC-V in Binh Dinh province in the Vietnam war. I carried an M2 version of this thing, it was pretty awesome for my entire year. As an alternative, I tried a Thompson (too heavy, and the .45 ammo weighed a ton) I then tried a "grease gun" it never worked properly. I came back to the carbine every time. The only reason I tried to get away from it was the selector switch never worked to engage full auto, and I was 275 Km away from the arms room!! Over all, my evaluation is that if the shooter is intelligent in selecting the aim-point, the carbine will do the rest!
That's crazy we used to get those for $125.00 in the 80s. When Mosin nagants where 39.99, and sks where 79.95. Crazy. If I could go back in time and stock up.
I just checked out the site you mentioned...$1850 for a "VG" condition M1 Carbine!?!? Holy cow. The first rifle I ever bought was an M1 Carbine (Inland division of General Motors), in "Very Good" condition, for $150. That was the going rate for VG condition carbines back then. My "expensive" Lee Enfield Number 5 Mk 1, in excellent condition cost me $250. I'm blown away by how high the prices are going on military rifles.
About 15 years ago, these were around $500 dollars, I regret not buying one back then. My first purchases were a Mosin for $99 and an SKS for $299. Now they are 2-3x, even 4x the price. Its crazy.
In about 1963 I paid about 20 dollars plus shipping for and M1 Carbine from the old DCM when the NRA was able to offer as the middleman direct sales from the US Gov to civilian NRA members.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Gee why do you think the price is so crazy expensive? Stop spending so much for these things. People like yourself ruined the market, especially the civilian marksmanship program which was never supposed to be overcharging. What you spent on that rifle is shameful and stops other Americans from owning firearms. Well done.
From what I understand, most soldiers loved the M1 Carbine, especially in the Pacific because of how light, nimble, and capable it was. Might struggle to reach out past iunno maybe 300 yards, but most engagements happened within that range.
What’s really sad is remembering seeing these at the LA County Fair Grounds Gun Show back in the late 80’s and early nineties selling for between $69 to $89.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Dang indeed! Back in the early nineties when I still lived in Southern California there was a large gun store selling British Enfield rifles for $79.95 to $99.95! Now they’re $700 to over $1k in some instances.
It can blow your mind how cheap and easy it used to be. My father brought home a carbine on the NYC subway. He paid $35. I recently brought the 1941 Johnson that my father bought for $69 dollars for a good cleaning and going through. He used it for deer hunting and I used it for plinking . The gunsmith smiled and said he used to see them in barrels in hardware stores for $10. I recently saw a YT video where a guy had bought an estate and mentioned a price for the Johnson that amazed me.
@@pasqualelibassi8054 My brother in law bought an 1862 model Spencer repeating carbine from Martin B. Redding Gun Store in Culver City California for $65 in 1965 and the store gun the guns in a barrel so you could pick the one you wanted. Because the Spencer was rim fire and ammo hadn’t been produced for it since the nineteen twenties his Dad who was a master machinist milled a center fire block fit it and turned a firing pin for it on his lathe and my brother in law trimmed down and formed 50-70 brass and loaded his own ammo. It was a hoot to shoot and he still has the gun.
It was my understanding that it was more of a replacement for the .45 1911 that officers carried. They didn't have to lug around the Garand, but the pistol was deemed ineffective for the battlefield. The M1 Carbine was the compromise. That's how it was explained to me.
Yes, that was the intention but most who were issued carbines also carried a .45 as a backup anyway. When I served in the 82d, it was still policy for weapons squad (M60 crews) to carry a sidearm as well as the platoon leader and platoon sgt
When you consider that the Carbine was meant to be a substitute for troops that didn't need a rifle, but still needed a weapon. It's literally to give support troops a longer range pistol.
It was never intended to compete with the M1 or other main battle rifle. It was intended as more powerful, easier to shoot, longer range and more accurate replacement for the 45, for tank crews and such, being vastly lighter and handier than the Garand (or any later main battle rifle.) At that it excelled and is still pretty darn good. It was mostly liked for those reasons in WW2. It started to get a poor reputation among some troops in Korea because it was cold and the enemy was often wearing heavy winter coats and it lacked penetration. A friend's uncle carried one in WW2 in the Philippines. For that environment it's great. My friend still has that one his uncle carried. I have shot it. How awesome is that?
Growing up in the 70’s I had a family friend that was a Marine officer on Okinawa that carried the M1 carbine. He claimed that within 100 yds you couldn’t tell the difference in a wound from the M1 carbine ant the M1 Garand. This man also carried a M2 carbine in the landing at Inchon during the Korean War. He said other than a couple of Chinese human wave attacks he never used it on full auto. The poor stopping power reports came mostly from Korea where poorly trained troops relied on full auto rather than effectively aimed fire. Meaning there was a whole lot of missing going on.
The US Special Forces in Nam found that the low velocity of the 30 cal bullet did far more damage than the high velocity M14 round which went through too fast. It's only disadvantage was range which was not a problem in the jungle, It was standard issue in Air defense units in the 60s. I loved it. Makes a great short range deer rifle.
Bullshit. You watch too many cartoons. The .30 carbine round is little more than a .357 magnum out of a rifle barrel. It doesn't even remotely come close the kinetic energy of a 7.62x51mm round. It doesn't "do more damage". That is asinine. You can do your own research on the statistical probability of surviving a upper thoracic shot from a 158 gr. .357 magnum, versus a 147 gr. .308 round.
Good video. Some crew chiefs on slicks in NAM, carried M2 carbine pistols that were very handy when you went down. It was carried with 2 - 15 round magazines in the pistol and several 30 round mags in pockets.There were rubber caps to go on the ends of magazines to keep them clean. One buddy said that he went down 3 times and the M2 saved his life because it was strapped to him and didn't get lost when he was thrown a distance from the bird. He was able to use it to hold off the bad guys until rescue made it to him. The M1 carbine was sold surplus in the early 1960s for only $20 and were popular with deer hunters. Good Luck, Rick
@@toxicmatrix1337 He was but, he paid the price that most vets pay. The nightmares came most nights. He died about 20 years ago. I'm not sure if it was agent orange or too much alcohol.
My dad was discharged from the Army in 1958, he was able to buy his 2 favorite firearms through an NRA program. He bought his favorite sidearm, (he was an MP) a colt 1911 for $21.00, and his favorite rifle ( the M1 carbine made by Singer, for $19.00).
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 Yes & no. Reports from doctors from every war. Clearly state hitting a vital organ is more important than caliber size. Yet, fmj putting a small hole in an arm, compared to hollow point, doing more muscle damage, can incapacitate better.
It's pretty unlikely that carillo was using JHP. He was an active officer from the 50s to the 70s. JHP was viewed pretty differently in that era than it is today and was not common.
@@ColonelSandersLite actually, he did use hollowpoints in his M1 Carbine. I know this because Jim told me so. He said the M1 Carbine never let him down---those he shot with it stayed down. He was wont to make his own bullets, and held several patents on bullet designs. Murphy, on the other hand used GI issue FMJ.
David Marshall Williams (November 13, 1900 - January 8, 1975) was an American firearms designer and convicted murderer who invented the floating chamber and the short-stroke gas piston. Both designs used the high-pressure gas generated in or near the breech of the firearm to operate the action of semi-automatic firearms like the M1 Carbine. James Stewart played him in the movie Carbine Williams
I bought one 30yrs ago from a department-store. Anytime I take it to the range everyone wants shoot it . I took two deer last year with using soft point ammo . Brownell's carries a scout scope mount that replaces the upper barrel cover , really enhances accuracy.
I checked those out when I grabbed it. I was thinking about ordering one, but I kind of put it off. I've been really wanting to run iron sights, I forgot how good this style is. They have to be my favorite.
There was a gun shop/range named "Pony Express" in Van Nuys, Ca. In 1995, I walked into the shop, picked out a relativley new looking M-1 Carbine, filled out the paper work, made pmt. and 30 minutes later, walked out with the rifle. No back ground check or waiting period. It was a "curio". The rifles were made by various manufacturers. The carbine I bought was made by I.B.M. (International Business Machines), the computer giant. Extremely simple, durable and effective design. Field stripping and cleaning the rifle could be done by a child. Which it was. My stepson was 10 yrs. old when I taught him how to shoot it. Today he is a Marine Lifer, currently E-7. Rah!
It really is a very simple design. This was a curio/relic purchase as well, so many firearms are going to qualify for C&R that its going to be kind of funny. You can already get an M60, ARs, AKs, MP5s, etc.
Grew up around a lot of WW2 Vets as a kid. One even let me use his M1 when we boys were playing guns. No firing pin or they wouldn't let him take it home. I've always wanted one myself ever since then. Still do and I'm now 62. Have no clue how to get one these days. Especially one that works! That's why I clicked on this video. "Ordered an M1 Carbine" read and I was hooked. Still don't know how to get one but,... sure is nice to see someone did and it's in such great shape! Thanks for the Post!! Brought back memories!
Thank you! I got this at J&G Sales online. If you have a C&R license you can get it shipped straight to you. Its basically an FFL for collectors, you can skip a trip to an FFL dealer. No 4473 to fill out, no transfer fees 👍👍
@@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul Yep. Found that one quickly. Was always told that rifle you could bet your life on. Have to take into consideration the source too. They had to and it never failed them. Seen the prices on the old ones. OMG they're asking a lot!
The M1 carbine was designed to better arm troops who would have otherwise been issued a pistol. It was never intended to match the M1 rifle in performance.
Found your channel today. I like the simplicity and accuracy of your style. I also liked how you showed the effectiveness of the M1 and included a little education about the weapon. My dad was a WW2 veteran and fought in Italy with the 10th Mountain division. He said he did not like the M1 and carried the Garand but I can see from your demonstration that it must be like you said, it was a personal preference. He probably like the long distance capability of the Garand better because he was the recon platoon leader.
Thank you, I appreciate it! I can definitely see wanting the Garand for longer ranges, even just for the travel time difference of the round. 3000fps vs 2000fps, anything moving would take a good amount of lead. When I use my airguns and edit videos, at 70 yards its getting close to a half second for the round the impact. Its kind of funny witnessing the delay like that.
The 30 carbine was actually intended to be a replacement for the 45 acp. Those soldiers who needed to be armed, but DIDN'T need a Garand battle rifle. Why? Because EVERYONE is more accurate with a rifle compared to the inherent difficulty of becoming accurate with a handgun. That's why the design parameters specified "5 pounds or less" - along with compactness and ease of use. The 30 carbine met parameters 1000%. The "problems" that plagued it after introduction were purely due to misuse. Namely expecting it to function like the Garand (it's NOT a thousand yard rifle), along with hot weather deterants in ammo being used in minus 20F weather. My uncle used one in Korea. They stripped ALL the oils, lubed with graphite, and kept the mags UNDER their parkas. The soldiers who did that had a good gun. Actually, my uncle carried both. He said that when the enemy got within 100 yards, he dropped his Garand and used the carbine. 15 or 30 shots were MUCH better than the 8 in the Garand. The 30 carbine is an EXCELLENT rifle when used appropriately.
My father a Korean war veteran , had one, when I was in high school in Oregon, someone broke into our house and stole it. We found it a year later outside our house in a blackberry patch rusted. It still shot after we cleaned it up
An easy way to think about it's power is that it is the same as a .357 mag at point blank when the .30 carbine is at 100 yards. Read that somewhere in an old hunting book when they discussed it being effective on deer or not. The answer was yes with a caveat on range of 220 yards or thereabouts.
Got my first Carbine in 1992. I paid a lot for a like new non import late production Inland for 550. Still have it. I have had my C&R since 1989. Enjoy your carbine.
A good friend of mine did two tours in Vietnam. He was there during Tet. This was his preferred weapon, he was a jungle fighter. It’s smaller it’s faster and it doesn’t jam as easy as the M-16 dead.
You can still get M1 Rifles delivered to your door. And if you are lucky enough ( and have the money ) you can have an M1 Carbine delivered to you door if you win one on the CMP auctions. But there haven't been any up recently. FedEx guy knows what is being delivered by the weight and size. Except when I got a .50 cal. Scope. That one had him baffled.
@@gravelydon7072 The CMP program is pretty cool, unfortunately a decent amount of restriction has been put in place. Some states require a transfer from an FFL or a C&R is required.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Yep, states like NY and CA are known for that kind of problem. Florida is not so mine come direct. The 1911s though had to have background checks before shipping and they had to go to an FFL who then had to do another background check. Even a C&R license isn't good enough for them.
spitzer bullets were a real game changer. the .30 carbine feels more like a miniaturization of a .45-70. not necked down, like a .30-30, but straight walled, ball bullet. it's still a pretty cool weapon. i heard they had issues with the magazines lasting re-use. i guess the Garand has a slight edge on them in that too, with it's disposable clips, often pre-loaded with rounds, in crates.
Still have my Dads M1 and still a damn fine shooter.. Was brought home when he was discharged from the 101st Special Forces. The 101st liked it because it was lightweight, short, held more ammo and troops could carry more ammo. It could be strapped loosely to your leg or back, easier than a monster Garand.
I love mine. I recommend you buy the bolt take down tool now before you need it. Also get the gas piston wrench and a set of spare bolt springs. When the bolt does eventually get fouled it needs to be taken down and it's impossible w/o the jig.
My Dad wanted one when he was in WW2, he got one in a bar in France. When in a bar in war time you would leave your rifle by the door and on his way out, he saw a M1 carbine and took it, mainly only officers could have one. The bad thing was when he was running for a fox hole during an air bombing, he fell on the rifle and bent the barrel .... so back to the grand.
My Father was in the Pacific during WWII and preferred the M1 Carbine to the M1 Garand. 14 shots semi-automatic. My Dad preferred carbines in general. Lighter, whippier.
I used to have one in 1980 and I brought a lots of old gun i like without being screwed with FFL dealer that refused to order anything except what they have at their price. When Clinton was in WH and accused an FFL as a root cause of gun crime, I was forced to surrender my FFL to ATF after thwe passage of Crime Bills in 1994.
There's a lot of talk of them not doing good in Korea but from what I can tell they were highly sought after by the Korean troops as it and the m2 were used by the US forces. My grandfather used both the m1 and m2 carbines and never told me anything bad about them. I still want to get an m1 myself in honor of him.
I carried an M-1 Carbine in my fires tour. The military rounds are of less power than you are shooting. They still worked fine. I carried 30 round mags in a bag with w couple frags and a couple smoak grenades. I was a helicopter pilot and lucky never had to use it on the ground.
The idea at least of the M1 carbine was that it was for support troops or to be used instead of a pistol (officers) but the reality was often different.
My favorite hunting rifle was easily the least accurate one I owned. It was a ruger Mini 30. 6" at a hundred yards. My buddy had the little carbine you have, and they both were a joy to shoot. We hunted mostly in patchy brush and forest, and didn't need to make the long 300 yard shots. You could carry it all day and have a pocket full of ammo, and didn't need a scope. We honed our quick snap shooting techniques on jackrabbits, and those same skills translated to the brief glances you got of a buck moving through brush. The little 30 cal ruger was about as powerful as the Carbine. Had a scope and pulled it off because of the time you needed for target acquisition. And it would take the lungs right out of a running deer. In the 80's and 90's, surplus ammo made shooting both carbines about as cheep as .22. except for the deer loads with the rounded bullwts. We all sell the guns we should of kept. No one misses their first wife, but we sure miss our good guns.
I bought one about 40 years ago for @$120 from a little shop in rural Missouri. IBM and other parts - typical of them. Shoots great and I still love it.
I have a my Dads M1 carbine that he bought from the government back in the 60's. He bought 2 for $50 each. Mine has never been messed with as my mom refinished hers. I Used it to hunt all day hiking the bush in Michigan. Very light weight and you can easily carry it for 8 hours hiking and hunting with no worries. Just don't shoot too far away and not through stuff that may deflect your shot.
The reason that a lot of soldiers and sailors said the carbine had no stopping power was because the Japanese they were shooting were hopped up on opium. Read the book about the P T boats we used in WW2. I think it was called "They Were Expendable ".
Excellent video. Remind me to never tick you off.:-))) My dad carried one in both WWII and Korea. I was trying to buy him one at a pawn shop, but he died before I could finish paying on it.
My paternal grandfather was assigned to the China-Burma-India theater during WWII as a telephone lineman. He was issued an M1 carbine and he hated it. He bothered everyone he could to try and get a Garand. The story goes he even asked (maybe not entirely sarcastically) if he could have Grandma mail him his bolt-action .30-06. Still, he made it through okay, but never quite developed any respect for the carbine. I was never able to get him to tell me why he hated it so much.
The M1 Carbine wasn't intended to be a front-line infantry weapon, it was intended to be a support crew weapon, like for cooks, mechanics and tank/artillery crews. But they did find themselves in infantry hands too.
the SAD thing is,South Korea has BARRELS and barrels of M1 carbines never used,still in original Cosmoline wrapping,that they wanted to import into the US for sale,and the usual suspects banned their return to the US.
Good my first M1 Carbine Winchester free. Have a friend that his pops had passed away, he didn't know how much his pops collection was worth. I pretty much valued all his collection for him to resell. He paid me with a M1.
The M1 Carbine is an excellent little rifle. .30 Carbine vs. .30-06 Springfield is like comparing a Toyota Tacoma and a Ford F450 SuperDuty. Of course there is a difference in kinetic energy; they are completely different cartridges. This is the first time I've come across your channel. From the looks of it, you have some other great stuff posted, "Uzi Nine Millimeter!" LOL! That's a nice bit of land you have there!
lol! Thank you! It is weird trying to compare the two, but I guess at the time that was probably the next step down from that battle rifle cartridge in terms or power. A pretty significant difference for sure
I carried the M1 carbine when I first started with the Air Force in 1966. Not long after, it was replaced with the M16. I still likethe "old" rifle feel of the M1.
My dad brought a box of parts home to me from a gun shop he used to hang out at.When mom passed away,dad needed to occupy his mind on something besides sorrow.The gun shop guys really helped dad adjust. Anyway... I knew the parts belonged to an M1 carbine.The stock gave the clue away at once. I asked dad what was this all about.He said if I could assemble it,I could have it. I assembled it in seconds.It came with 2 15 round mags and 1 30 round mag. That was back in 2013. Ive still yet to fire it,even tho Ive got ammo. Problem being...ammo here in north Ohio wedt of Cleveland is more rare than hens teeth. When I can find a source of ammo,I will test it out.The carbine is an urban assault weapon.Not long distance. They are awesome in the urban situations.
This thing is awesome and that is badass!! lol I have to get a lot of my stuff online. Not many cheap options locally and the availability is very limited.
*updated reply* People are assuming you can get a firearm without a firearms license or if you are ineligible in a red state(felon). Is that what you are saying? Because thats definitely not what I am implying. You need a state issued license, or not have a felony in a free state. I thought that was a given, that is my target I am trying to reach. I offer plenty of options for people who cant get any firearms though. Im just not sure how anyone would think you are getting a firearm mailed to you like its a loophole for those that cant get one in a store.
@@liggerstuxin1 Correct, I mentioned you dont need a Dealer FFL, you dont. I got an m1 shipped to my front door. Mentioned I had a C&R license. Explained in the comments its not a dealer FFL. Theres a huge difference between the two.
@@relicpathfinder2800 theres a huge difference between the two. If you have a firearms license complete the form process and wait. Get license, buy, receive at home. You arent taking out loan to start your new business venture to get a dealer FFL
The smaller arms are cheaper to make ammo for but mostly the military wants smaller bullets because it takes 2 soldiers to carry off a wounded person. So you can take more soldiers off the field with small calibers. Like .30 carbine and m-16.
Thank you! If you have a firearms license, go to the ATF website and you can send in a form to get a C&R license. Its your own personal FFL. Once you get the paper license, you can upload it to your choice of online vendor and start buying.
@@toxicmatrix1337 I remember it like yesterday. Was at the courthouse to pay a parking ticket and there was a pawn shop across the street. The barrel was full of them, a pile of magazines for 5 dollars apiece on the counter. If only….
We sleeved the barrel down to .221, neck the 30 cal cases down to 22, it head spaces on the shoulder. Equivalent to the M16/.223 round. I called it the "very mini 14". When the guns were $200 they were fun to convert and were very accurate and reliable with our .30/22 wildcat.
What kind of license do you have? You mentioned it at the beginning of the video, but you used an abbreviation. Many of us don’t know abbreviations. Please expound. Thank you.
@@toxicmatrix1337 oh, cool. I will have to look into what that is. I have never heard of it. I am military, and I can tell you that the M1 Carbine is an awesome shirt to medium range weapon. Most engagements are 100 yards and in, so the M1 carbine is extremely effective. I would not take it past 300 yards due to the bullet design and velocity. I believe it is just a pistol bullet. Not made or designed to go far. It will kill much further, but not effectively. So, I would keep it within 300 for hunting or real world use. But I’d also play with it and different types of ammo. Some ammo manufacturers may have upgraded the bullets from what they once were back in the day it was designed.
@@ScorpioSin777 👍👍 This license is nice to have, anything 50 years and older qualifies as C&R. Makes things much more simplified for me, saves time and money.
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*** A C&R is an FFL, it is not a Dealer FFL. There is a very big difference, you do not need to have a storefront with this FFL, its a personal one for collecting 50+ year old firearms.
Visit the ATF website, they have the form available. Its an easier process than applying for a firearms license in my state.
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@@Skrillful that only works if YT hides them, this is straight up deleting. The issues been going on for a long time.
Dude what website did you buy it at
@@a1locc25 J&G Sales
Mine only get deleted when I say something negative about J**s...
I know a vietnam vet whose preferred firearm was the m1 carbine. He continued to carry it as his duty rifle when he became the county sheriff. Swore by it.
Badass!
M1 Carbine was very popular in Vietnam. Audie Murphy carried one, he would pop the Germans in the forehead. Read his book, to hell & back. In the Pacific. Some Marines liked the knock down of the Garand. Some liked the light weight fast follow up shots with the carbine. M1 Carbine was a liked rifle for over 40 years of wars. Still has a place today. One of my favorite rifles. More so getting older, due to the light weight, low recoil. Add reflex sight & light, great home defence, with 30 round mag.
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My dad served in nam and i can agree with this statement
My granddad also carried one as a Bonner County Sheriff in Idaho. He referred to it as his truck rifle and was happy when he retired and only used it to dispatch animals hit by vehicles.
He loved that rifle and his life depended on it if ever needed. I grew up shooting them almost every weekend as it went out to the range every trip. It is 1942 Inland Carbine he left to me with the rest of them. He also had a Saginaw, IBM, a Underwood Typewriter Company, and a Rock-Ola Manufacturing Corporation M1’s.
These have been some of my favorite rifles since childhood and I’d never get rid of any one of them as they all have just a little bit of a different personality and just feel a bit different when shooting.
With the same ammo the Inland will definitely shoot about 1/2” tighter groups than the standard 2-21/2” groups they all average at 100 yards.
There is nothing wrong with the M1 Carbine. Used as it was intended, it was adequate for the job. All too often you see the Carbine compared to the M1 Garand. Two completely different weapons for two completely different jobs. The Garand was a Main Battle Rifle and the carbine was intended more or less for close in combat. The Carbine was initially intended to replace the M1911 pistol as a side arm. It wound up being issued to crew served weapons crews such as Mortars and Machine guns, truck drivers and such who would be hard pressed to use a full size battle rifle.
Correct. The concept of a Personal Defense Weapon isn't new. This was the US Army's version 80 years ago. It could also be thought of as an intermediate cartridge weapon, similar to the Stg-44 in function, though without the full-auto capability (until later).
And Zero's, aka Officers.
@@thelarry6864 I've spoken to a lot of veterans who said that in WWII Officers could pretty much carry what they wanted if it was in the TO&E.
@@waynecoulter6761 Correct. My Father was one of the original 3,000 volunteers to join Merrill's Marauders. He had plenty of experience with the M1 Carbine and wasn't impressed with it's effectiveness on stopping Japs. He survived that campaign, only to get his left leg shot off in Korea. Retired DAV as a MSGT. God rest his soul.
Ty for that true statement
One of the better M 1 carbine videos for accurcy, and entertainment!!! 👍🇺🇸
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My dad was in Vietnam, and he said a lot of guys still carried those. Many of them preferred them to M-16s because they were reliable and easy to shoot. In thick jungle the range of 5.56x45mm was irrelevant, and M1 Carbines tended to fare very well in denser brush.
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I PURCHASED MY M1 CARBINE IN VERY GOOD CONDITION 40 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS 20 YRS OLD FOR $100. I STILL HAVE IT TODAY & WILL NEVER SELL IT.
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My dad had bought one for 100 early 1970s
Which website did he mention?
Early 70’s if you earned 5 thousand a year you were doing good. 5 bucks was worth 35 in today’s money. 100 was a lot of cash.
@@MrJedi5150 👍👍 I try to avoid mentioning or "promoting" websites like that in video. I get toyed with by TH-cam a lot, It's been fun learning their game😥
You, Sir, are one Hell of a marksman. My hat is off to you.
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@@guaporeturns9472 You wouldnt want to sit around for 20 extra minutes of pauses, down time, etc. It's always going to be edited, but I leave misses in. 4:07
My thoughts were " shoot much do ya?".
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My dad made all 4 combat jumps with the 82nd in WWII. He preferred the Carbine above all other weapons. Could carry a lot of ammo and still had room for an extra canteen. Said he was always thirsty. Said it stopped people just fine.
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Audience Murphy made the same statement
My own dad carried one as a member of the 793rd Combat Military Police Battalion, ETO.
My dad was a drill Sargent at fort Benning, Georgia, during Korea. He loved the carbine. He said it was the only rife a airborne man ever needed. He loved how much ammo one man could carry.
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Former Marine Corp Veteran (24) yrs) here, also a marksmanship instructor. The M1 Carbine would be a great un-close effective rifle. The M1 Garand will always be a fantastic long range rifle. A few of us used them in Vietnam with a 9x39 snipers scope, along with Remington 700's and the Garand always held up well. Thanks for the memory. SEMPER FI !!!
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The M1 carbine wasn't meant to replace the Garand. So, yeah, it was marginal as a battle rifle
It was meant to replace pistols for those whose primary duties didn't have them carrying a rifle. Officers, tankers, etc. Easier to shoot effectively than a pistol, and didn't mark the user as a primary target.
Audie Murphy recovered, repaired and carried one.
He fondly recalled the serial number 20 years after the war.
That guy was most definitely a front line man
@@mattburnett4185 He also claimed he wore out several Thompson sub machine guns. What I am thinking we dealt with was a media that quoted everything without challenging anything. His most famous incident actually involved a Browning .50 M2.
My dad made all 4 jumps with the 82nd. He preferred the carbine , and he was as front line as it gets. Likes it because he could carry a lot of ammo and had room for an extra canteen. Said it stopped enemy combatants just fine
@kenibnanak5554 because you know better than the guy who was there. Stop comparing yourself to better men, they did things you couldn't comprehend.
Of course it replaced the garand. My father trained with the garand in basic training in 1943 but was issued the carbine when he went to New Guinea. They have a 15 round magazine but he said they would modify them by welding them together to make 30 and 45 round magazines.
I was an Infantry advisor with MAC-V in Binh Dinh province in the Vietnam war. I carried an M2 version of this thing, it was pretty awesome for my entire year. As an alternative, I tried a Thompson (too heavy, and the .45 ammo weighed a ton) I then tried a "grease gun" it never worked properly. I came back to the carbine every time. The only reason I tried to get away from it was the selector switch never worked to engage full auto, and I was 275 Km away from the arms room!! Over all, my evaluation is that if the shooter is intelligent in selecting the aim-point, the carbine will do the rest!
That M2 is sweet!
That's crazy we used to get those for $125.00 in the 80s. When Mosin nagants where 39.99, and sks where 79.95. Crazy. If I could go back in time and stock up.
15 years ago I got my mosin for $99 and my sks for $299. These were $499, I regret not getting one sooner.
I just checked out the site you mentioned...$1850 for a "VG" condition M1 Carbine!?!? Holy cow. The first rifle I ever bought was an M1 Carbine (Inland division of General Motors), in "Very Good" condition, for $150. That was the going rate for VG condition carbines back then. My "expensive" Lee Enfield Number 5 Mk 1, in excellent condition cost me $250. I'm blown away by how high the prices are going on military rifles.
About 15 years ago, these were around $500 dollars, I regret not buying one back then. My first purchases were a Mosin for $99 and an SKS for $299. Now they are 2-3x, even 4x the price. Its crazy.
@@toxicmatrix1337same bought a mosin at big 5 sporting goods for 90 and an sks from an officer for 200
In about 1963 I paid about 20 dollars plus shipping for and M1 Carbine from the old DCM when the NRA was able to offer as the middleman direct sales from the US Gov to civilian NRA members.
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Gee why do you think the price is so crazy expensive? Stop spending so much for these things. People like yourself ruined the market, especially the civilian marksmanship program which was never supposed to be overcharging. What you spent on that rifle is shameful and stops other Americans from owning firearms. Well done.
@@loquat44-40 Dang!
From what I understand, most soldiers loved the M1 Carbine, especially in the Pacific because of how light, nimble, and capable it was. Might struggle to reach out past iunno maybe 300 yards, but most engagements happened within that range.
Dang that M1 is pretty dam accurate for being almost 80 yrs old!
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What’s really sad is remembering seeing these at the LA County Fair Grounds Gun Show back in the late 80’s and early nineties selling for between $69 to $89.
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@@toxicmatrix1337 Dang indeed! Back in the early nineties when I still lived in Southern California there was a large gun store selling British Enfield rifles for $79.95 to $99.95! Now they’re $700 to over $1k in some instances.
It can blow your mind how cheap and easy it used to be. My father brought home a carbine on the NYC subway. He paid $35.
I recently brought the 1941 Johnson that my father bought for $69 dollars for a good cleaning and going through. He used it for deer hunting and I used it for plinking .
The gunsmith smiled and said he used to see them in barrels in hardware stores for $10. I recently saw a YT video where a guy had bought an estate and mentioned a price for the Johnson that amazed me.
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@@pasqualelibassi8054 My brother in law bought an 1862 model Spencer repeating carbine from Martin B. Redding Gun Store in Culver City California for $65 in 1965 and the store gun the guns in a barrel so you could pick the one you wanted. Because the Spencer was rim fire and ammo hadn’t been produced for it since the nineteen twenties his Dad who was a master machinist milled a center fire block fit it and turned a firing pin for it on his lathe and my brother in law trimmed down and formed 50-70 brass and loaded his own ammo. It was a hoot to shoot and he still has the gun.
It was my understanding that it was more of a replacement for the .45 1911 that officers carried. They didn't have to lug around the Garand, but the pistol was deemed ineffective for the battlefield. The M1 Carbine was the compromise. That's how it was explained to me.
I don’t think so. Do Research
Yes, that was the intention but most who were issued carbines also carried a .45 as a backup anyway. When I served in the 82d, it was still policy for weapons squad (M60 crews) to carry a sidearm as well as the platoon leader and platoon sgt
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@quellenathanar is closer than your non-answer.
@@jeffrogge8597That’s exactly what the M1 Carbine’s purpose was.
I was USAF and our officers still carried 45's I was issued the carbine but at Ft.Bragg we were issued M-16's, the 82nd was still using M-14's
When you consider that the Carbine was meant to be a substitute for troops that didn't need a rifle, but still needed a weapon.
It's literally to give support troops a longer range pistol.
Perfect! Somebody did their homework. 👍🏻
Very well made video. It moved very fast, did not drag, kept my attention and was entertained all the way through. Thank you
Thank you!
It was never intended to compete with the M1 or other main battle rifle. It was intended as more powerful, easier to shoot, longer range and more accurate replacement for the 45, for tank crews and such, being vastly lighter and handier than the Garand (or any later main battle rifle.) At that it excelled and is still pretty darn good. It was mostly liked for those reasons in WW2. It started to get a poor reputation among some troops in Korea because it was cold and the enemy was often wearing heavy winter coats and it lacked penetration. A friend's uncle carried one in WW2 in the Philippines. For that environment it's great. My friend still has that one his uncle carried. I have shot it. How awesome is that?
I need to get one of those uniforms and test it out, that would be cool👍👍
Growing up in the 70’s I had a family friend that was a Marine officer on Okinawa that carried the M1 carbine. He claimed that within 100 yds you couldn’t tell the difference in a wound from the M1 carbine ant the M1 Garand. This man also carried a M2 carbine in the landing at Inchon during the Korean War. He said other than a couple of Chinese human wave attacks he never used it on full auto. The poor stopping power reports came mostly from Korea where poorly trained troops relied on full auto rather than effectively aimed fire. Meaning there was a whole lot of missing going on.
It's also easy to miss a guy that might weigh a buck twenty when he's wearing one of those quilted winter suits they had in Korea.
lot of muzzle rise on the M2 with full auto unless you were use to it, there were a lot of misses Im sure
Plus the Chinese smoked opium before the human wave attacks. Some were hit and didn't know it.
The M1 Carbine is the most fun rifle to shoot other than a .22 rifle.
You never shot a lever action then.
Or a mini-14
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How could anyone be anti this? Pure fun, and enjoyable time outside. I dig your use of mics near the targets. Sounds awesome.
Thank you!
The US Special Forces in Nam found that the low velocity of the 30 cal bullet did far more damage than the high velocity M14 round which went through too fast. It's only disadvantage was range which was not a problem in the jungle, It was standard issue in Air defense units in the 60s. I loved it. Makes a great short range deer rifle.
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Bullshit. You watch too many cartoons. The .30 carbine round is little more than a .357 magnum out of a rifle barrel. It doesn't even remotely come close the kinetic energy of a 7.62x51mm round. It doesn't "do more damage". That is asinine. You can do your own research on the statistical probability of surviving a upper thoracic shot from a 158 gr. .357 magnum, versus a 147 gr. .308 round.
Good video. Some crew chiefs on slicks in NAM, carried M2 carbine pistols that were very handy when you went down. It was carried with 2 - 15 round magazines in the pistol and several 30 round mags in pockets.There were rubber caps to go on the ends of magazines to keep them clean.
One buddy said that he went down 3 times and the M2 saved his life because it was strapped to him and didn't get lost when he was thrown a distance from the bird. He was able to use it to hold off the bad guys until rescue made it to him. The M1 carbine was sold surplus in the early 1960s for only $20 and were popular with deer hunters. Good Luck, Rick
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@@toxicmatrix1337 He was but, he paid the price that most vets pay. The nightmares came most nights. He died about 20 years ago. I'm not sure if it was agent orange or too much alcohol.
@@richardross7219 damn, sorry to hear that.
My dad was discharged from the Army in 1958, he was able to buy his 2 favorite firearms through an NRA program. He bought his favorite sidearm, (he was an MP) a colt 1911 for $21.00, and his favorite rifle ( the M1 carbine made by Singer, for $19.00).
@@SwampRat8462 Singer did not make M1 Carbines. Singer did make M1911A1s though.
I think that little rifle has always been underrated it is a great trouble free rifle.
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Spot on.
As far as effectiveness goes, here are two notable proponents of the M1 Carbine: Audie Murphy (USA CMOH) and Jim Cirillo (NYPD. USCS)
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As a police officer, Carillo was able to use ammo other than fmj. Soft or hollow point ammo makes a huge difference in stopping soft targets.
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 Yes & no. Reports from doctors from every war. Clearly state hitting a vital organ is more important than caliber size. Yet, fmj putting a small hole in an arm, compared to hollow point, doing more muscle damage, can incapacitate better.
It's pretty unlikely that carillo was using JHP. He was an active officer from the 50s to the 70s. JHP was viewed pretty differently in that era than it is today and was not common.
@@ColonelSandersLite actually, he did use hollowpoints in his M1 Carbine. I know this because Jim told me so. He said the M1 Carbine never let him down---those he shot with it stayed down. He was wont to make his own bullets, and held several patents on bullet designs. Murphy, on the other hand used GI issue FMJ.
David Marshall Williams (November 13, 1900 - January 8, 1975) was an American firearms designer and convicted murderer who invented the floating chamber and the short-stroke gas piston. Both designs used the high-pressure gas generated in or near the breech of the firearm to operate the action of semi-automatic firearms like the M1 Carbine. James Stewart played him in the movie Carbine Williams
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Excellent movie. Been decades since I last saw it.
I bought one 30yrs ago from a department-store. Anytime I take it to the range everyone wants shoot it . I took two deer last year with using soft point ammo . Brownell's carries a scout scope mount that replaces the upper barrel cover , really enhances accuracy.
I checked those out when I grabbed it. I was thinking about ordering one, but I kind of put it off. I've been really wanting to run iron sights, I forgot how good this style is. They have to be my favorite.
I used to use mine for deer in the cedar swamps of Northern Lower Michigan.
Excellent video of the accuracy and hit probability of the M-1 carbine. Congratulations on buying a real beauty.
Thank you!
There was a gun shop/range named "Pony Express" in Van Nuys, Ca. In 1995, I walked into the shop, picked out a relativley new looking M-1 Carbine, filled out the paper work, made pmt. and 30 minutes later, walked out with the rifle. No back ground check or waiting period. It was a "curio". The rifles were made by various manufacturers. The carbine I bought was made by I.B.M. (International Business Machines), the computer giant. Extremely simple, durable and effective design. Field stripping and cleaning the rifle could be done by a child. Which it was. My stepson was 10 yrs. old when I taught him how to shoot it. Today he is a Marine Lifer, currently E-7. Rah!
It really is a very simple design. This was a curio/relic purchase as well, so many firearms are going to qualify for C&R that its going to be kind of funny. You can already get an M60, ARs, AKs, MP5s, etc.
My Dad was issued the Carbine as he was squad leader, he carried tracer ammo so he could direct fire for the Garands
That sounds badass lol
When I saw the perfectly placed EYE you made on that hand sized RAM. I openly said to myself "NOICE"
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Grew up around a lot of WW2 Vets as a kid. One even let me use his M1 when we boys were playing guns. No firing pin or they wouldn't let him take it home. I've always wanted one myself ever since then. Still do and I'm now 62. Have no clue how to get one these days. Especially one that works! That's why I clicked on this video. "Ordered an M1 Carbine" read and I was hooked.
Still don't know how to get one but,... sure is nice to see someone did and it's in such great shape! Thanks for the Post!! Brought back memories!
Thank you! I got this at J&G Sales online. If you have a C&R license you can get it shipped straight to you. Its basically an FFL for collectors, you can skip a trip to an FFL dealer. No 4473 to fill out, no transfer fees 👍👍
@@toxicmatrix1337 Thank you!! Flippin' Aye!!😎👍
A few companies are still making them. Inland is one.
@@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul The prices are a bit better on those. It was close enough here that I wanted to go with an this though over a new one.
@@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul Yep. Found that one quickly. Was always told that rifle you could bet your life on. Have to take into consideration the source too. They had to and it never failed them. Seen the prices on the old ones. OMG they're asking a lot!
Excellent vid man. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Austin, TX
Thank you! I appreciate it!
The M1 carbine was designed to better arm troops who would have otherwise been issued a pistol. It was never intended to match the M1 rifle in performance.
Definitely a bucket list item right there!😮❤❤❤
Definitely!
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Found your channel today. I like the simplicity and accuracy of your style. I also liked how you showed the effectiveness of the M1 and included a little education about the weapon. My dad was a WW2 veteran and fought in Italy with the 10th Mountain division. He said he did not like the M1 and carried the Garand but I can see from your demonstration that it must be like you said, it was a personal preference. He probably like the long distance capability of the Garand better because he was the recon platoon leader.
Thank you, I appreciate it! I can definitely see wanting the Garand for longer ranges, even just for the travel time difference of the round. 3000fps vs 2000fps, anything moving would take a good amount of lead. When I use my airguns and edit videos, at 70 yards its getting close to a half second for the round the impact. Its kind of funny witnessing the delay like that.
I have a family air-loom 1943 Winchester M1 Carbine and it's possibly the coolest milsurp I own.
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The Germans were amazed by the US Jeep and M-1 Carbine.
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The 30 carbine was actually intended to be a replacement for the 45 acp. Those soldiers who needed to be armed, but DIDN'T need a Garand battle rifle. Why? Because EVERYONE is more accurate with a rifle compared to the inherent difficulty of becoming accurate with a handgun. That's why the design parameters specified "5 pounds or less" - along with compactness and ease of use.
The 30 carbine met parameters 1000%. The "problems" that plagued it after introduction were purely due to misuse.
Namely expecting it to function like the Garand (it's NOT a thousand yard rifle), along with hot weather deterants in ammo being used in minus 20F weather. My uncle used one in Korea. They stripped ALL the oils, lubed with graphite, and kept the mags UNDER their parkas. The soldiers who did that had a good gun. Actually, my uncle carried both. He said that when the enemy got within 100 yards, he dropped his Garand and used the carbine. 15 or 30 shots were MUCH better than the 8 in the Garand.
The 30 carbine is an EXCELLENT rifle when used appropriately.
👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸 Very neat to hear that!
My father a Korean war veteran , had one, when I was in high school in Oregon, someone broke into our house and stole it. We found it a year later outside our house in a blackberry patch rusted. It still shot after we cleaned it up
Glad you found it!
An easy way to think about it's power is that it is the same as a .357 mag at point blank when the .30 carbine is at 100 yards. Read that somewhere in an old hunting book when they discussed it being effective on deer or not. The answer was yes with a caveat on range of 220 yards or thereabouts.
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Got my first Carbine in 1992. I paid a lot for a like new non import late production Inland for 550. Still have it. I have had my C&R since 1989. Enjoy your carbine.
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Whoever told you that a 9mm is capable of blowing the lungs out of a deer?????
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Yes, although I remember him referring to a human rather than a deer, but 🙄!
@@scotty3114 I guess you are right, he said body. A deer body in this case haha
Jo Bidumb!
Mabey 9mm carbine
My Dad carried the carbine during WW2. He loved the little rifle.
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A good friend of mine did two tours in Vietnam. He was there during Tet. This was his preferred weapon, he was a jungle fighter. It’s smaller it’s faster and it doesn’t jam as easy as the M-16 dead.
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That's the way it should be!
Back in the '60s my grand father ordered a .22 pistol and the postman delivered it to his front door! Yeah Buddy!!
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You can still get M1 Rifles delivered to your door. And if you are lucky enough ( and have the money ) you can have an M1 Carbine delivered to you door if you win one on the CMP auctions. But there haven't been any up recently. FedEx guy knows what is being delivered by the weight and size. Except when I got a .50 cal. Scope. That one had him baffled.
@@gravelydon7072 The CMP program is pretty cool, unfortunately a decent amount of restriction has been put in place. Some states require a transfer from an FFL or a C&R is required.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Yep, states like NY and CA are known for that kind of problem. Florida is not so mine come direct. The 1911s though had to have background checks before shipping and they had to go to an FFL who then had to do another background check. Even a C&R license isn't good enough for them.
@@gravelydon7072 Somehow in MA my C&R pistols shipped straight to me lol🤯
spitzer bullets were a real game changer. the .30 carbine feels more like a miniaturization of a .45-70. not necked down, like a .30-30, but straight walled, ball bullet. it's still a pretty cool weapon. i heard they had issues with the magazines lasting re-use. i guess the Garand has a slight edge on them in that too, with it's disposable clips, often pre-loaded with rounds, in crates.
Interesting ill check those out.👍👍
Don't buy military surplus magazines, buy new Korean made. The WWII magazines were considered disposable and don't hold up well over time.
Still have my Dads M1 and still a damn fine shooter.. Was brought home when he was discharged from the 101st Special Forces. The 101st liked it because it was lightweight, short, held more ammo and troops could carry more ammo. It could be strapped loosely to your leg or back, easier than a monster Garand.
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You sir, are a good shot ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
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I love mine. I recommend you buy the bolt take down tool now before you need it. Also get the gas piston wrench and a set of spare bolt springs. When the bolt does eventually get fouled it needs to be taken down and it's impossible w/o the jig.
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@nonokodog622 I would recommend a QUALIFIED gunsmith until you know WTF you are doing,first?
@@roytsusui1761 This is pretty basic work, just need the proper tools to be able to do it.
My Dad wanted one when he was in WW2, he got one in a bar in France. When in a bar in war time you would leave your rifle by the door and on his way out, he saw a M1 carbine and took it, mainly only officers could have one. The bad thing was when he was running for a fox hole during an air bombing, he fell on the rifle and bent the barrel .... so back to the grand.
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My Father was in the Pacific during WWII and preferred the M1 Carbine to the M1 Garand. 14 shots semi-automatic. My Dad preferred carbines in general. Lighter, whippier.
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A C&R license is a FFL type 03
Correct, you are bypassing FFL dealers. No 3rd party, no transfer fees, no 4473.
I’m surprised the USGI M1 Carbine qualified as a curio/relic. 😮
@@StrictlyPlinking Anything 50 years or older qualifies. In a few years you could get an AUG as a relic lol!! Original MP5, ARs, AKs pretty crazy.
I used to have one in 1980 and I brought a lots of old gun i like without being screwed with FFL dealer that refused to order anything except what they have at their price. When Clinton was in WH and accused an FFL as a root cause of gun crime, I was forced to surrender my FFL to ATF after thwe passage of Crime Bills in 1994.
@@johnmadow5331 Damn
Very cool carbine.🤠🇺🇸
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Thank you for this. I’ve been intending to get 03 license for a long time and this reminded me to go and do it!
It was very quick to get it back and easy as can be 👍👍
There's a lot of talk of them not doing good in Korea but from what I can tell they were highly sought after by the Korean troops as it and the m2 were used by the US forces. My grandfather used both the m1 and m2 carbines and never told me anything bad about them. I still want to get an m1 myself in honor of him.
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The M1 Carbine is completely underrated. It would be cool if someone made a new one in a poplar caliber or calibers.
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give Ruger time
@@stalehunter Ruger could turn out a nice one for $1,000?
I think the stopping power complaint was overrated.
The M1 Carbine was my dad's favorite deer hunting rifle.
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I carried an M-1 Carbine in my fires tour. The military rounds are of less power than you are shooting. They still worked fine. I carried 30 round mags in a bag with w couple frags and a couple smoak grenades. I was a helicopter pilot and lucky never had to use it on the ground.
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The idea at least of the M1 carbine was that it was for support troops or to be used instead of a pistol (officers) but the reality was often different.
Support troops? Those are assaulters when you're comfortably watching out of range with a DMR
My favorite hunting rifle was easily the least accurate one I owned. It was a ruger Mini 30. 6" at a hundred yards. My buddy had the little carbine you have, and they both were a joy to shoot. We hunted mostly in patchy brush and forest, and didn't need to make the long 300 yard shots. You could carry it all day and have a pocket full of ammo, and didn't need a scope. We honed our quick snap shooting techniques on jackrabbits, and those same skills translated to the brief glances you got of a buck moving through brush. The little 30 cal ruger was about as powerful as the Carbine. Had a scope and pulled it off because of the time you needed for target acquisition. And it would take the lungs right out of a running deer. In the 80's and 90's, surplus ammo made shooting both carbines about as cheep as .22. except for the deer loads with the rounded bullwts. We all sell the guns we should of kept. No one misses their first wife, but we sure miss our good guns.
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Lol good analogy.
I bought one about 40 years ago for @$120 from a little shop in rural Missouri. IBM and other parts - typical of them. Shoots great and I still love it.
Good stuff
I have a my Dads M1 carbine that he bought from the government back in the 60's. He bought 2 for $50 each. Mine has never been messed with as my mom refinished hers. I Used it to hunt all day hiking the bush in Michigan. Very light weight and you can easily carry it for 8 hours hiking and hunting with no worries. Just don't shoot too far away and not through stuff that may deflect your shot.
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The reason that a lot of soldiers and sailors said the carbine had no stopping power was because the Japanese they were shooting were hopped up on opium. Read the book about the P T boats we used in WW2. I think it was called "They Were Expendable ".
Damn!
You can't shoot farther than you can see with open irons, which is why larger calibers were phased out and we got the AR15
Yeah, you're right. The book you're talking about is called. They were expendable. It takes place during the Japanese invasion of the Philippines.
And some try to debate the power of the M1 Carbine as appropriate for home defense with hollow point rounds.
1944 M1, im jealous. I have a 1980s era M1. Its perfect. Light and simple.
It really is a simple design, great piece.
Excellent video. Remind me to never tick you off.:-))) My dad carried one in both WWII and Korea. I was trying to buy him one at a pawn shop, but he died before I could finish paying on it.
Thank you! Damn, sorry to hear that.
What a beautiful piece of American history. Own it with pride Brother
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That lung satire was pure gold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was worth the 20 comments of people calling me a moron so far. lol
@@toxicmatrix1337 how do they not know 🤣
Ghost ring /peep sights are very underrated. Easier than choosing which red dot is poi.
👍👍 love the irons on it
My paternal grandfather was assigned to the China-Burma-India theater during WWII as a telephone lineman. He was issued an M1 carbine and he hated it. He bothered everyone he could to try and get a Garand. The story goes he even asked (maybe not entirely sarcastically) if he could have Grandma mail him his bolt-action .30-06. Still, he made it through okay, but never quite developed any respect for the carbine. I was never able to get him to tell me why he hated it so much.
Damn, now I want to know. lol!
The M1 Carbine wasn't intended to be a front-line infantry weapon, it was intended to be a support crew weapon, like for cooks, mechanics and tank/artillery crews. But they did find themselves in infantry hands too.
I remember when you could buy m1 carbines for $65 dollars each and three thousand rounds for 20 bucks.
and a bottle of Coke was 10c....,gas 33c/gal. ;-) US dollar isn't worth what it used to be.
the SAD thing is,South Korea has BARRELS and barrels of M1 carbines never used,still in original Cosmoline wrapping,that they wanted to import into the US for sale,and the usual suspects banned their return to the US.
Damn
Good my first M1 Carbine Winchester free. Have a friend that his pops had passed away, he didn't know how much his pops collection was worth. I pretty much valued all his collection for him to resell. He paid me with a M1.
I carried a M1 at times. Most often a 12 gauge short barrel shotgun. I always wanted a carbine but only officers were issued them.
My grandfather was issued this in WWII.
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The M1 Carbine is an excellent little rifle. .30 Carbine vs. .30-06 Springfield is like comparing a Toyota Tacoma and a Ford F450 SuperDuty. Of course there is a difference in kinetic energy; they are completely different cartridges.
This is the first time I've come across your channel. From the looks of it, you have some other great stuff posted, "Uzi Nine Millimeter!" LOL! That's a nice bit of land you have there!
lol! Thank you! It is weird trying to compare the two, but I guess at the time that was probably the next step down from that battle rifle cartridge in terms or power. A pretty significant difference for sure
I carried the M1 carbine when I first started with the Air Force in 1966. Not long after, it was replaced with the M16. I still likethe "old" rifle feel of the M1.
👍👍 I like that as well.
Thanks for the show, Enjoyed.
Thank you!
Only one problem with the M1 Carbine - Ammo, if you don't Re-load you are SOL... if you can find Ammo it's Super Expensive. Enough said.
I grabbed this ammo off of midway usa. It goes for around 74 cents a round, you made me buy more now, lol! A lot of their supply is out of stock.
found some surplus at the CMP early this year. They get small batches in from time to time you have to keep an eye out.
Awesome!! Looks like a nice Freedom stick!! 🇺🇲💯
I love it!
The M1 carbine is what my Dad carried in WWII , 73rd Seabees on Guadalcanal, New Georgia, and Peleliu .
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My grandfather had one after ww2. He kept it on the top shelf of the closet.
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My dad brought a box of parts home to me from a gun shop he used to hang out at.When mom passed away,dad needed to occupy his mind on something besides sorrow.The gun shop guys really helped dad adjust.
Anyway...
I knew the parts belonged to an M1 carbine.The stock gave the clue away at once.
I asked dad what was this all about.He said if I could assemble it,I could have it.
I assembled it in seconds.It came with 2 15 round mags and 1 30 round mag.
That was back in 2013. Ive still yet to fire it,even tho Ive got ammo.
Problem being...ammo here in north Ohio wedt of Cleveland is more rare than hens teeth.
When I can find a source of ammo,I will test it out.The carbine is an urban assault weapon.Not long distance. They are awesome in the urban situations.
This thing is awesome and that is badass!! lol I have to get a lot of my stuff online. Not many cheap options locally and the availability is very limited.
Yea, good luck finding ammo for it. I can’t find it anywhere!
@@johnmichalek9802 midway usa, 74 cents a piece.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Big thanks Dude!
@@johnmichalek9802 👍👍 I just bought extra today. lol! Everyone is saying its hard to find, so I figured I better stock up now.
Misleading title acting as if you didn't still need a government issued license to get this.
*updated reply* People are assuming you can get a firearm without a firearms license or if you are ineligible in a red state(felon). Is that what you are saying? Because thats definitely not what I am implying. You need a state issued license, or not have a felony in a free state. I thought that was a given, that is my target I am trying to reach. I offer plenty of options for people who cant get any firearms though. Im just not sure how anyone would think you are getting a firearm mailed to you like its a loophole for those that cant get one in a store.
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Still misleading.
@@toxicmatrix1337 change the title or re-upload. You know what you did…
@@liggerstuxin1 Correct, I mentioned you dont need a Dealer FFL, you dont. I got an m1 shipped to my front door. Mentioned I had a C&R license. Explained in the comments its not a dealer FFL. Theres a huge difference between the two.
@@relicpathfinder2800 theres a huge difference between the two. If you have a firearms license complete the form process and wait. Get license, buy, receive at home. You arent taking out loan to start your new business venture to get a dealer FFL
The smaller arms are cheaper to make ammo for but mostly the military wants smaller bullets because it takes 2 soldiers to carry off a wounded person. So you can take more soldiers off the field with small calibers. Like .30 carbine and m-16.
Would love to have one but could not unscramble your instructions . You are on hell of a shooter sir. Great job.
Thank you! If you have a firearms license, go to the ATF website and you can send in a form to get a C&R license. Its your own personal FFL. Once you get the paper license, you can upload it to your choice of online vendor and start buying.
They were selling these out of a plastic trash barrel for 75 dollars in Brandon MS in 2003….. if only …….
Damn!😥
@@toxicmatrix1337 I remember it like yesterday. Was at the courthouse to pay a parking ticket and there was a pawn shop across the street. The barrel was full of them, a pile of magazines for 5 dollars apiece on the counter. If only….
“My prediction is correct” 😂
What can I say? lol!
I am impressed at how good of a shot you are!!
Very cool and fun to watch!!
Thank you, I appreciate that!
We sleeved the barrel down to .221, neck the 30 cal cases down to 22, it head spaces on the shoulder. Equivalent to the M16/.223 round. I called it the "very mini 14". When the guns were $200 they were fun to convert and were very accurate and reliable with our .30/22 wildcat.
Thats pretty cool!
What kind of license do you have? You mentioned it at the beginning of the video, but you used an abbreviation. Many of us don’t know abbreviations. Please expound. Thank you.
C&R is Curio and Relic.👍👍
@@toxicmatrix1337 oh, cool. I will have to look into what that is. I have never heard of it. I am military, and I can tell you that the M1 Carbine is an awesome shirt to medium range weapon. Most engagements are 100 yards and in, so the M1 carbine is extremely effective. I would not take it past 300 yards due to the bullet design and velocity. I believe it is just a pistol bullet. Not made or designed to go far. It will kill much further, but not effectively. So, I would keep it within 300 for hunting or real world use. But I’d also play with it and different types of ammo. Some ammo manufacturers may have upgraded the bullets from what they once were back in the day it was designed.
@@ScorpioSin777 👍👍 This license is nice to have, anything 50 years and older qualifies as C&R. Makes things much more simplified for me, saves time and money.
So sad... I sold my RockOla M1 carbine for grocery money in 1989. Worst decision ever.
I did similar once, you did what was necessary and now it’s time to forgive yourself.
Dang! Sorry to hear that.
OH NO 😦🥲
My grandfather used one in ww2, and he always spoke highly of it.
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Looks very nice 👍😉 enjoy
It great, thanks!