I have both. Yes the Sony's have better ANC but you cannot connect to multiple devices, switching is a major pain! Sonys also make your ears hot, cannot wear them for hours. The Bose are a better all-round, wear for hours, connect to multiple devices headset. And you can easily replace the ear pads. You say look at the data, but you didn't capture data which is crucial like: connectivity and comfort!
aakash teotia I’ve listened to songs for comparing clarity. Sony was inferior to Bose. Of course Sony has a ton more to offer, including better beat response, but you don’t get that feel and the effect in mid frequency songs that you would get with Bose.
I just got my first wireless headphones and I love them! I got the Bose QC35II. I was looking at Sony and Bose 700, but QC35II was the most comfortable for me and it is the reason why i chose them.
You are right but XM3 is also a very comfortable headphone. Just not as comfortable as QC35II. I am very much ok with the level of comfort offered by XM3. Secondly, I only connect a headphone to one device at a time. Lastly and most importantly, I prefer the sound signature of WH1000XM3, it's support for better Bluetooth codecs and I also vastly prefer touch control system in XM3.
There are quite a few reasons why I still went with the Bose QC 35 II. They do a better job in situations where you would actually want to use a noise cancelling headphone. If you're traveling then you want to cancel out the low, rumbling frequencies of trains and airplanes. I found that the noise cancelling on the Sony also produced a really consistent ambient background noise, that, while barely audible, was enough to create a feeling of pressure on me ears. If you're sensitive at all to the feeling of pressure that noise cancelling headphones can sometimes create, go with the Bose. Yes, the Sony headphones offer more options for customizing sound quality, but there are some glaring issues with the frequency response of the headphones, and it's not really possible to fix them with EQ settings. The Sonys really only sound great on Pop genres because of their overly aggressive bass and frequency response, and if that's not what you're looking for then it's really difficult to EQ out the excessive bass in the Sonys. If you're listening to jazz, classical, R&B, or any kind of live recording where you care about a decent sound stage and instrument separation, then the QC 35 II is definitely for you. They sound more neutral and much more open. I have to say that I pretty heavily agree with this review on the microphone and call quality. Say what you want about the frequency response of the microphones on these two headphones, but the fidelity of the sound being transmitted through the Sonys just sounds grainier, more distorted, and really far away. When I would make calls to people while using the Sonys they said that it sounded like I was muffled, really far away, or like I was talking through a speakerphone from 15 years ago. Everyone who I spoke to through the QC 35 II said that the call sounded clear, precise and easy to hear. The fidelity that is being transmitted through the Sonys is just lower, and unfortunately that makes their better frequency response kind of meaningless. Anyway, just my personal opinions after trying out both of these. They're both really great headphones and I think that both have a specific kind of buyer that they're geared towards. Can't really go wrong either way.
Gregory Lopes i am with you man i got 1000xm3 few weeks ago and i change it to qc35ii bec sound quality during call sucks like when i am in a bus or train
Appreciate Your full answer. What would You recommend if I'm listen 50% indie rock and something like SOAD, Limp bizkit and other 50% is trance music. What would be more profitable to have - more bass sony or more define and crisp Bose? Thanks. Alex
Love the sound signature of Sony M3's but the most amazing feature for me is the ability to release cabin pressure during flights when reaching high altitudes and when landing, by activating the atmospheric optimizer of the headphone. I used it for a couple of international flights and cabin pressure on my ears easily goes away.It's so great.
In case anyone is thinking to buy the Sony's - You can't EQ them using them wired (for example inflight entertainment) and without EQ they sound like ABSOLUTE SHIT!! Just a warning. I returned mine and ordered the Bose
The main advantage the Bose has over the Sony is that it can connect to multiple devices simultaneously, while the Sony can only be connected to one device at a time.
The one gripe I have with the XM3 is when you go to grab the headphones off, you may sometimes skip a track or stop the music. Also I feel like I have to baby the XM3 because of the matte coating and I fear it will scuff and show way more than the Bose. The Bose I’ve had for almost 2 years and I rarely baby it and it still looks new. I don’t know if that will be the case for the XM3s.
@@thedirewolf5535 we just took an 8 hour flight last month , and we both didnt have a problem so I believe 10 hour flight should be fine , they're both very comfortable .
I bought the Bose and regret nothing. First of all, I didn´t pay the 350$ price tag, got them on Amazon for 240$. The drawbacks I can think of are: - The micro USB charging port - demanding a specific cable, I preventing me from using the USB C cables I already use for the rest of the stuff (however the battery is very solid so charging these only once a week makes it less painful to have to use a different cable). - The top headband - For one it could have more padding, since after a long period of time it start to state its presence. And also... The headband is made of 2 different hardware pieces and they are separate of one another so when I feel it in my hands it sometimes feel cheap and unfinished, but nothing to be worried about, since when they go on the head they are just fine. - The earcups are quite confortable but after I would say 1 hour you would want to take them off to give your ears some room to breathe and also rest the area around the ear where the earcups rest. The rest is fantastic - I quite enjoy the sound (note however that these headphones are not bass oriented, so consider which music you listened to, because I can safely say that hearing EDM on my old sony's was more fun), the noise cancelling for me is on the border line of exceptional, the build is very flexible and solid, the dials and interface the best placed in any headphone I've had and are very easy to use when on the head and finally the carrying case is the final touch of quality on the total package. Why I picked these over the sony's: - The Sony's can't pair with more than 1 device at a time and 95% of the time I use my headphones with my phone and mac and the same time and the transition from from one to the other is fantastic on the Bose. - When I bought the Bose, the Sony's were still 350$ so that 110$ difference just didn't cut for me. - Most of people I've listened to said that they prefered the Bose in terms of confort and since I've had numerous bad experiences with unconfortable headphones in the past I always leaned more towards the Bose side (however I never I the chance I experience the Sony's in person, so it actually might just be a matter of opinion). If they are at the same price, I would probably go Sony for better future proofing but if the situation is something like mine was (100$ + difference) then the benefits and advantages of the Sony aren't enough to win them over the Bose.
I have a bose and have tried the sonys. The Sony sounds better. The bose is more comfy by far. But, but have their flaws. All ANC headphones sounds like it's raining if you are in a really quiet environment. I'm in my really quiet room, no noise and my Bose headphone is even louder than my quiet room due to the anc. If you don't mind the rainy noise.
I use my headphones at work connected to my laptop and phone at the same time - having the Bose really works for this. I had an older pair of PLT headphones that didnt support multi device, and it was super frustrating for dealing with disconnecting and reconnecting bluetooth between the phone/computer as I got to and left work. The Bose may not have the App or Bass that the XM3's have, but I much prefer having the multi device functionality, call quality and physical buttons over Sony's app or noise cancelling. It's all about what you value in a headset overall. Great video!
I picked the Sony over the Bose. I tested both and for me the Sony is a lot more easier to listen to. I'm not sure if there's an issue with the Bose test unit, but I felt like the vocals are a bit too piercing for me.
Sony need to sort the clamping on the jaw, and only being to connect to one device at a time. Incredible headphones, but the Bose win on comfort for me.
Bose wins in comfort hands down because of its ability to seamlessly switch between paired devices. This is a comfort feature that is often missed in reviews. I had the Bose QC35II and replaced them with the Sony WH-1000XM3. While the XM3 sounds better and is comfortable to wear, it was useless for most people's everyday needs. My need for being able to seamlessly switch from my home laptop, to my phone, to my work laptop, and back and forth is what led me to sell the XM3 and buy the QC35II again. There is a huge thread on the Sony forum and Sony still has not addressed this. It is sad that Sony did not include this. It is sadder that Sony will not admit that.
I doubt everybody needs to have seemless switch from one device to another. On the other hand Bose needs to up its game with the next iteration of the QC. It's dated.
@@guntherfurlong you would be surprised how much this convenience is needed when you need to switch between devices. Many people, who have the means to buy these headphones, probably have access to a phone and a computer. So having the ability to seamless switch between two audio devices is a necessary feature
@@longphan9532 It's a nice feature to have but not the end of the world not having it. I know many who have headphone but just mainly stick to one device. As I've said before... Bose has to up the game come next iteration. It's good to have Sony to compete with them .
@@guntherfurlong I work in tech. Many people have these. This is a common complaint we all have. You keep forgetting that they advertised support of two devices. It does not. Just because they use it for one device does not mean that they are not annoyed by the lack of this feature. Next time you see someone with one, ask them how they feel about the lack of the feature
@@longphan9532 As I've said before it's not a big issue to me. I have many friends like me using the same headphones... Maybe it's because we don't work in the tech industry but it's not the biggest needs in my opinion. Stick to the Bose cos it works for you. I personally don't need this feature and so far those I spoke to are not bothered whether this feature is present or not but if it work for you.... stick to the bose. the current feature set on the Sony does a good job for me. Maybe Sony will add this feature in the future iterations. Bose again need to up their game in their next update at the same time. Have a good day ahead 👍🏾
Also, you forgot to mention that if you want to use LDAC, you are bound to the stock sound signature of the Sony's. Whenever you touch the EQ setting on them, they revert to SBC, which means that the supported audio codecs become moot. Just a thing to consider, you are essentially giving up the codecs if you don't like Sony's stock sound signature.
Good comparison. The deal breaker on the Sony for me was the single Bluetooth connection. When I'm on the train I don't want to have to switch between my phone and tablet
Hi, I have both as well... The Sony XM3 sound much better than Bose but the Bose are more comfortable to wear especially for long durations. Also I find the call quality to be better on the Bose than the Sony as per call receiver feedback
@wagwan for battyman Thanks. I have just ordered Bose qc 35ii 3-4 hours back and both of these headphones are available at same price. Should I cancel my Bose order and go for Sony or should I stay with Bose. I actually like the comfort but I love base in music. Please advice asap.
@wagwan for battyman I am from India and have tested qc 35 ii only and I loved the comfort and sound quality. Unfortunately due to lack of time I haven't heard sony's. But I think I should go with Bose. Thanks for your time and honest reviews. Good luck mate.
I tried both for a couple of weeks but eventually kept Bose. simply because it was more comfortable for me. Just one thing I am annyoyd with is the micro usb charger instead of usb c.
the Sony's are way overhyped, i was actually disappointed in the XM3's - Bose and the Sennheiser PXC 550's are better for sure, as they have better richer lower bass frequencies. you know, in the real world... not youtube paid promotions.. wow, sony went real wild with that..
I really want to like the XM3s, but if they don't work properly when the temperature drops, then I'm not gonna bother with them. When you buy a pair of headphones you expect them to work. That's like the number 1 priority. Hopefully they fix these issues with the XM4s.
I have the XM3 and they really are top notch however there is one problem with them that I am absolutely shocked that Sony did not catch during Quality Control. Basically in cold weather the touch controls can be activated at random without any input from the user. I'm walking down the sidewalk and suddenly my music pauses or jumps to the next track; and the only way to fix it is to turn off the headset and turn it back on. This according to Sony resets the headphone somehow so it can work properly in the cold. As you can imagine when you live in a country like Canada this can become really frustrating.
also i had the sony, and returned it the next day, just hurt my ears, the inner cups touched the sides of my ears constantly and i don't have huger ears. The bose may have less features but comfort levels are off the charts, which sound guys here didn't even mention.
i'm a little annoyed that i bought an XM2 a few months before they released the XM3. Still great headphones but i still gotta charge them with micro USB!
Although I haven't called Bose yet, I'd say the exact same thing about their headpones, and by reading the same issue in their forums they don't listen. My Bose headphone is extremely difficult to connect to my brand new PC via bluetooth, and the signal stutters so badly when it finally does it's unusable, and unstable. Connecting via bluetooth to my phone however is flawless and works great. But i want to be wire free on my pc which is what I bought it for.
@Selcorall I was able to solve the problem by purchasing a USB BLUETOOTH DONGLE . I disabled the onboard bluetooth. I believe it's a problem with the computer hardware or software (I have an iBUYPOWER) or combination of both. The headphones now work great. I'm still pissed off however I had to purchase a $20 dongle to fix an issue on a brand new computer.
Bose QC45's are creepin' right around the corner. I have and love the 35's. If the Bose didn't exist then I would 💯% be with Sony. Both great but I bought the Bose first and honestly besides missing usb-c the Bose are perfect to me.
How do you know the 45s are on the way? I’m considering waiting until then and have heard some saying they could be around as soon as June, with others suggesting there may be a couple years to wait
I am obviously leaning towards the M3 but I have heard of some issues -Phantom touches on the controls in cold weather -Cracking at the headband and hinges (prevalent in older models too) -Misread swipes on the controls Can you talk about these please
I replaced my original QC 35s with the Sony XM3 for 2 days before returning them XM3. Three reasons why: 1. Comfort. I can wear the Bose for hours without even noticing them. With the Sony, 30 minutes and my ears were hot and had to take breaks. 2. I didn’t think the difference between pairing multiple devices (Bose) vs just one (Sony) would be a big deal, but it was. Huge, in fact. 3. The dealbreaker on the XM3 for me was phone call quality - it wasn’t good. I make a lot of business calls in loud environments and with the XM3, not only did the noise cancelling not help, but the ambient sounds were amplified in my headphones. Never had a problem with the Bose. The XM3s sound great, but they just weren’t for me.
The Sony’s are great yes...until you try to connect more than one device. With multipoint they suck, forcing you to manually disconnect from device 1 before connecting to device 2. The Bose has true multipoint support. I can connect to my iPhone and iPad simultaneously and seamlessly switch between them without ever pressing a button. This is why I’m selling my 1000MX3’s. Shame more reviewers don’t mention this flaw
I have used both. I prefer the ‘Bose because I like its sound stage. However, the Sony’s are louder. Always a trade off somewhere. Can’t go wrong with either set.
Well I mean everyone has their take on the audio signature maybe this particular one wasn't to your ears taste 🤣 maybe you'd prefer something like the jbl headphones signature or the plantronics backbeat pro 2 perhaps they are actually pretty good audio wise
Hello these headphone's are really really good in a lot of ways. I've had these for sometime now and I can now give a honest review on them. I also have the Bowers and Wilken's Px's,Sennheiser px 550's and the parrot zik's and now these here. The build quality of them has gotten better from the last model mainly the fit. The noise cancelling is simply outstanding. The call quality isn't the best but somewhat decent. The battery life on these are also really good!The sound signature on them is really good! My ear's did slightly sweat after a few hour's of wearing them though. These are the only headphone's I've ever owned that didn't cut out when I stepped into best buy bravo Sony! The touchpad you have to be precise with the gestures on it or you'll skip a song quite frequently. I also don't like the double tap to answer or pause you have to get that right to do either one of those. And other gripes are the long press of the power button on or off and that dang short ass charging cable they come with. It's like 2 or 3inches.... the next version to these should be magnificent if sony listens to us consumer's which i think they do👌🏾✊🏽
i found the pxc 550's better than the sony, i was disappointed .. the bass isn't the best on more demanding songs. limited frequency..nice mid tone though..
I tried both of them last month. In terms of ANC, sony is the clear winner but when it comes to comfort, bose qc 35 ii is the king. Eventually, I ended up keeping the bose. I think the choice between these two would mainly depend on these two factors.
As my old headphones are officially trash and I don't have time to wait I'm basically certain to purchase one of the two tomorrow. Since there's a whole lot of factors and I don't want to regret what I'm likely going to do is try one for a week, return and purchase the other and buy back/keep the one I prefer.
Springloft Studio while the mic quality wasn’t something I was too worried about as I have a dedicated mic I just purchased the Bose QC35 II as I trust its more confortable and more importantly should last longer without breaking (can replace the cushions etc). Thanks for the heads up!
@@BlinciLIVE hey there, I apologise for replying to your comment from 2 years ago but did you end up getting the Bose or Sonys and what made you decide to get them? Thanks
@@MrGW2fanboy I went for the Bose as I think they last longer, have some replaceable parts and better cushions. I don't use them 24/7 but they have been great for work, games and flights. Hope this helps!
You guys are amateurs why? Cuz you can put ear plugs in your ear then put your 3$ headphones and now it's called NOISE CANCELLING HEADPHONES!! instead spending 250-300$ headphones try my WAY YOU CAN ONLY COST 4.99$!!!
I'm on a fence between these two. I've just checked amazon review and yes, it's still an issue. A deal breaker for me because I hate touch controls and live in Canada.
Get the Sennheiser HD1 (Momentum 2) wireless instead. Bose's QC35's sound so subpar compare to the Sennheiser HD1, however the Sony M3 has the better noise cancelling than both. So, if you prefer Sound quality, get Sennheiser HD1, for noise cancelling: Sony M3.
I really wanted to like the Sony's but had to go with Bose. Comfort for me, on the Sony's my ears touched the drivers and after only 30 minutes I had to take them off because the headband hurt. Bose are no issues at all. Sound. You can tweak both to sound great. But out of the box the Bose murders the Sony's. Sony bass bleeds far too much in the midrange it sounds muddy and overemphasized. Again, you can tweak both to your liking. Oh and the streaming quality? On paper Sony wins in features, but not in practice. If you want LDAC, you cant adjust eq settings. Of course music you can use the music app's eq and you're fine. But TH-cam and any other sound where you cant adjust eq will sound like a muddy mess. Also the Sony touch controls go haywire in the cold. I ride the bus every day to work and walk a few blocks in MN winters. No joke, I'd stop off the bus and about 20 seconds later (below zero temp) the sound stops and you have to let the headphones warm up before you can use them again. If the temp is 40 or below the sound stops after a few minutes. All those reasons I decided the Bose were best FOR ME. I stress that because were all different and I'm sure most of you are in a warmer climate than I am....and I'm jealous!
Baard Overgaard Hansen hows your experienced about comfortable?because I have big head and I wanna upgrade my wh1000xm2 coz I cant used it for a long time for my headpain
for better frequency range, the sennheiser pxc 550 wins hands down (i have all 3) the sony has a really nice upper mid range bass tone but can't go that deep or rich. if you are looking for just great rich sound, they are extremely overhyped.. as they all are..as bluetooth quality all-rounders they are an excellent choice.
Ok the bose have multiple connections to many devices but the sonys have ANC so you can connect them quickly to any device that supports that i like my WH-1000XM3 I chose them over the bose cause the sound quality is better and the instrument separation is the best ever
Best and better is pathetic choice words. Hearing, sound quality, and audio preference is all personal. I owned the first two 1000Xs which I really liked and the M3 I love.
try watching all the test videos about sonys mic outside in real life, esp firmware 2.0.0 .. and say that sonys are the best again... they should take the best of both and combine. man that would rock.
I have both XM2 and QC35II. even on the XM2 the Sonys are better on ANC and sound quality. Bose though for comfort. so On the go i pick up the Bose, but for higher quality listening i pick up the Sony, set my android to LDAC and rock FLacs.
You know this kind of review is supported by factual data mixed with very little personal opinions making this, by far, the best review I’ve seen thus far! Also a note... Knowing this review is getting older the headphone market hasn’t quite caught up with this sony WH-1000X M3 and there’s a sale on Amazon for an “international” version. Same exact model just lacking a US warranty. This can be circumvented by buying the 3 year accident protection warranty for $35.00 USD totaling my purchase at $285.00 minus tax and free overnight shipping to boot! Great video and thank you so much!
Great video 👍🏻 I‘ve seen a lot of reviews but this is the best, I like it that you put in the diagrams with the sound- and noisecancelling quality. This helps a lot to choose which one I will buy.
I bought these recently and then tried to make a phone call in a fairly noisy coffee house. If I'm talking just into my cell phone, the people on the other end of the line did not complain about the background noise. The headset, however, seems to pick up noise from too far away. To add insult to injury, it also played all that noise back through my headphones. Is it possible that a future firmware update limits the microphone to sounds originating no further than 10 cm from the microphone? I.e. my voice? Isn't that possible with near-field microphones and if so, why wouldn't Sony opt for these?
NeutralGenericUser I have the same feeling and I’ve been wanting to buy them for a month now , however i think there is no need for a rush here, i’ll wait to see if the m4 are a major upgrade which I’m pretty sure they will be and the i’ll purchase them.
My sentiment exactly. If they're not a major upgrade, I'm sure you'll be able to find much better deals on the M3s. The only thing that bothers me is that we've heard nothing about the M4's yet. I was expecting to hear something by now :/ I suppose my Bose QC25's are still ok for the moment, but I hate the wires.
bruneh definitely they are the best in the market and at this time you can find good offers for the xm3’s . However i suggest you try their fit and see if they suit you before purchasing.
Just a heads up from someone who owns the quiet comfort. They aren’t worth it audio wise. Everything always sounds buried and muffled. The only way to begin to hear things is cranking them which defeats the purpose for my uses. V moda crossfade ii’s are way more worth it. With their price tag you get actual quality. Bose just tries to impress with a nice box, package products, features that don’t even work, and that’s where it ends. It also seems the headphones go from too quiet to over the top loud. I don’t want to rant but I want to spare someone buying these for the wrong reason. The only thing that is ok (it could be better) is the noise cancelling which in reality is only effecting at wiping out LOW environment background noise. I will stress the quality of the sound is not worth it. Even Akg headphones destroy these. On most of my favorite artists songs it all sounds clutter, the guitars are way too low, the bass has a thud but it’s not clear, and they feel like they could break at slightest whim. My V moda crossfade ii’s had superior sound quality where the sound was WIDE, so loud they could deafen you, extremely comfortable, built like German tanks, and everything was crystal clear for ALL genres. To me they are general consumer headphones marketed like the beats.
There is one annoying thing with the 1000xm3, when i wanted to eq them in their app they forced me to switch from priority on sound quality to priority on stable connection. Because of that connection reverted from ldac to sbc. Not a lot of people mention this.
Excellent review Gents! Concise, visual aids reflecting testing explained well enough, and above all; unprejudiced opinion all delivered quickly without the added 'noise' of watching you drive into work, making breakfast as you intro the subject matter of your post or other such nonsense. Now if you could just teach the rest of the world to review like this, we consumers would be forever in your debt. Cheers!
Nice review. However, why don't you test both pairs for their microphone performance in a rather realistic environment such as in a cafe, a bus or while walking down the street with a considerable amount of noises? Your test in a relatively quiet room just shows one side of the data IMHO. Cheers for the good work though!
Hi, Just went through your video and I really like your work, guys. Still, I've got a little question though and I'm not sure if this question has been asked before, but is this Sony headphone compatible with PS4? Keep up the good work.
I don't use my headphones for calling and voice clarity (Bose wins there but its not thing with me I use) so continuing on battery is important to me and Sony kills it with 30 hours but Bose 20-22 is still very good.....comfort sorry guys Bose is called the Quiet-comfort and they win this every time...at least for now. Usb-c is a huge let down but I am sure Bose will change that wit their next model. Bose for $300 or Sony for $350......I'll take the Bose but both are great. I'm not hating or knocking Sony. If in the future I could grab the Sony m3's for $250-280 brand new I might jump on them.
I return Bose QC35 to buy Sony1000XM2. Great decision! Someone stole them. I waited for six months and bought Sony1000XM2 again. These are addictive, very comfortable and great battery life!
Question: What about the touch controls on the Sonys in cold weather? Not meaning gloves, just response to the touch in cold environments. Just imagining that physical controls might have an edge there?
So, both Chris and Adam live to the north of Boston, and they go through some pretty cold winters. So far, neither have had issues with it BUT that doesn't mean that it isn't an issue. It could just be that 0F(-17C) isn't cold enough to cause those problems... or it's device-centric, or any one of a ton of different issues. It's a little too warm out for them to test that again, but Chris is a little crazy when it comes to test design, so who knows what he cooks up in the future?
Can you please review Bose quite comfort 35ii after the new firmware 4.5.2? ANC high mode is barely the same as the mode! RTINGS has confirmed that ANC performance has decreased by 4 dB! Bose is denying this!!
Sold the Bose and bought the Sonys after using Bose for 2 weeks. Below are my observation. 1) I personally felt Bose has better sound signature over all. Flat and clean. Sony sort of distorts after 80% of volume and amplifies it unnecessarily. 2) Sony has a tad better ANC. But Bose is not bad either. 3) The most important thing for me was this, Sony is is more comfortable for my ears and Bose started irritating my ears just after 30 to 40 minutes. But Sony can hold up to an hour or a little more. 4) I definitely like the touch gestures much more than Bose's buttons. 6) Yet to check the fast charging and battery life on the Sony. With Bose I was using it for 4 to 4 days and a couple of hours a day. 7) Call quality is definitely better on Bose for both Caller and Receiver. But Sony is not too bad. I chose the Sony mainly for comforts and the touch gestures. I definitely wouldn't have sold the Bose hadn't it been that uncomfortable.
Sorry, but you did not test voice recording together with ANC at all. If you did that you would have find out, that the microphone setup as a whole on the Sonys are terrible and you just can't have a phone call with them outside. See a gazillion of other videos describing that.
I was really disappointed to find out that the Sony's don't support multiple devices like the Bose. This is huge for me as I love not having to connect/disconnect to my laptop/phone if I want to hear audio on the other device. I don't know why more people don't favour this option? Ultimately deciding to wait for the QC35 III's as I want more codec support and USB-C. If the Sony's had multiple device support I would buy them in a heartbeat.
Sonys are great but when paying that much money and having part of the inside of the arm break off from the simplest motion and having sony tell you that it isnt covered via warranty is a bit rich.... Moved to the QC 35s, if im paying this much money i want something that is lasting more than a year. Poor customer service sony
The microphone/call test I kindly have to disagree, the Sony headphones; when it comes to calls are trash. I own the WH1000m3, the amount of ambient sound they allow during a call is terrible. The other person can not hear me at all. Only when I decrease the volume of the headphones, the ambient sound is better but I can't hear the person on the other side of the call.
I have checked online regarding this issue and there is a fair amount of complaint about this, even after receiving new pair of the headphones. If anyone has any tips or fixes please let me know
@@ridwanahmed1486 I can second this. Mic quality isn't s huge issue to me but in the short time I had the Sony's I recorded my own voice and it sounded awful. Bose (while not amazing) did a better job.
@@Jefafa73 exactly, I've tested the QC35 and they do a better job. I'm just wondering is this something that all noise cancelling headphones have in common or is it just the Sony. Before the M3 I was using the M1: they had a similar problem but not as bad.
The Sony has too much high bass and sound veiled and less clear. The Bose has a punchier bass and is more clear with a larger soundstage. It’s just the low treble is a bit too much at times. The call quality on the Bose is far better as it sounds more clear for voice, the Sony sounds veiled in comparison. The codec support argument is invalid as AAC is good enough for everyone. I did many abx blind tests with many different people. No one could reliably tell AAC from aptx, ldac, or aptx hd. And if the source is aac then it is a lossless conversion
@@kennethchubs Just search for both frequency response, rtings has explanations for both of them. As AAC/aptx/ldac/aptxhd/any there are too many snake oils in audio world, for example only few people could tell the differences between 320kbps and FLAC or DSD, in a blind test? even fewer. Heck there are even people claiming different cable different sound, that is simply delusional. Codec will mostly matter only in delay(still lacking in wireless) and distortion/compression(if any).
What do you mean by "audiophile sound" I think that the Sony sounds better with most reviewers agreeing Well then again these are used primarily for their noise cancellation and not their sound quality
The Sony offers a thick sound with a lot of bass but the soundstage is very narrow and the lack of details is obvious. It is a common element of low-end headsets. Most people who evaluate these headphones on TH-cam don’t know anything about high-end audiophile headphones and for them, the Sony is the new Beats.
@@anandhua.b4589 Bose is the closest to Harman target, one of the closest actually no matter the price range, wired, etc. Sony are more Beats sounding.
@maitrehg high end audiophile headphones come in many forms some may be flat and neutral sounding like the hd800 while some may be bassy or warm or may have a rich sound signatures like lcd2 ,Fostex th900s, or the final d8000 so high end headphones have different sound signatures and not are always hd800s that is soundstage cans And yeah Jude from headfi has a lot more experience than I do with high end headphones and he does are with Sony being the better sounding one well then again everyone has different hearing
I came to this video trying to decide between these two pairs of headphones expecting to find another video that just presents the same ideas/data as others but was very impressed to see actual data organized from structured tests. This video took all of the ideas that other people have briefly touched on and takes it to the next level with real numbers and visuals. Keep up the good work boys
Ok, so for a channel that is called 'The Sound Guys', why is the audio in this video so bad. The voice is REALLY scratchy and hard to listen to. Otherwise though, content of the video is nice as I am trying to decide on one of these headphones, but still seems kind of wierd.
Brand Yu I’m tryna figure this out myself.. I kind of really want to get the QC35 but if they’re releasing a new model soon I don’t want to buy mark 2 when I could have gotten the next gen. :(
Have you ever used poweramp app? I would love you to do a guide to all the settings like the stuff you mention here... the stuff I've no idea about like Ldac and other words you mentioned (which I've noticed in poweramp settings) 😂
As a audiophile i still perfer my legendary HD600s from sennheiser over any other headphone by far the best sounding headphone ive used plus they last forever!
Going to wait on Sony's next headphones to see if they build with better material. Reading too many complaints about Sony's headbands breaking and Sony warranty wont cover a fix or replacement, rendering a $350 pair of headphones useless.
I have both. Yes the Sony's have better ANC but you cannot connect to multiple devices, switching is a major pain! Sonys also make your ears hot, cannot wear them for hours. The Bose are a better all-round, wear for hours, connect to multiple devices headset. And you can easily replace the ear pads. You say look at the data, but you didn't capture data which is crucial like: connectivity and comfort!
Your review nailed it because i have just ordered Bose qc 35ii.
aakash teotia I’ve listened to songs for comparing clarity. Sony was inferior to Bose. Of course Sony has a ton more to offer, including better beat response, but you don’t get that feel and the effect in mid frequency songs that you would get with Bose.
@@PrashantMarshal Got it. Nothing to ask now. Perfect answer to my doubts.Thanks.
I just got my first wireless headphones and I love them! I got the Bose QC35II. I was looking at Sony and Bose 700, but QC35II was the most comfortable for me and it is the reason why i chose them.
You are right but XM3 is also a very comfortable headphone. Just not as comfortable as QC35II. I am very much ok with the level of comfort offered by XM3. Secondly, I only connect a headphone to one device at a time. Lastly and most importantly, I prefer the sound signature of WH1000XM3, it's support for better Bluetooth codecs and I also vastly prefer touch control system in XM3.
There are quite a few reasons why I still went with the Bose QC 35 II. They do a better job in situations where you would actually want to use a noise cancelling headphone. If you're traveling then you want to cancel out the low, rumbling frequencies of trains and airplanes. I found that the noise cancelling on the Sony also produced a really consistent ambient background noise, that, while barely audible, was enough to create a feeling of pressure on me ears. If you're sensitive at all to the feeling of pressure that noise cancelling headphones can sometimes create, go with the Bose.
Yes, the Sony headphones offer more options for customizing sound quality, but there are some glaring issues with the frequency response of the headphones, and it's not really possible to fix them with EQ settings. The Sonys really only sound great on Pop genres because of their overly aggressive bass and frequency response, and if that's not what you're looking for then it's really difficult to EQ out the excessive bass in the Sonys. If you're listening to jazz, classical, R&B, or any kind of live recording where you care about a decent sound stage and instrument separation, then the QC 35 II is definitely for you. They sound more neutral and much more open.
I have to say that I pretty heavily agree with this review on the microphone and call quality. Say what you want about the frequency response of the microphones on these two headphones, but the fidelity of the sound being transmitted through the Sonys just sounds grainier, more distorted, and really far away. When I would make calls to people while using the Sonys they said that it sounded like I was muffled, really far away, or like I was talking through a speakerphone from 15 years ago. Everyone who I spoke to through the QC 35 II said that the call sounded clear, precise and easy to hear. The fidelity that is being transmitted through the Sonys is just lower, and unfortunately that makes their better frequency response kind of meaningless.
Anyway, just my personal opinions after trying out both of these. They're both really great headphones and I think that both have a specific kind of buyer that they're geared towards. Can't really go wrong either way.
Gregory Lopes i am with you man i got 1000xm3 few weeks ago and i change it to qc35ii bec sound quality during call sucks like when i am in a bus or train
Appreciate Your full answer. What would You recommend if I'm listen 50% indie rock and something like SOAD, Limp bizkit and other 50% is trance music. What would be more profitable to have - more bass sony or more define and crisp Bose? Thanks. Alex
Same reasons I bought Bose yesterday inspite everyone insisting for Sony.
correct.
Gregory Lopes but Bose has Cabin Pressure type noise cancelling?
Love the sound signature of Sony M3's but the most amazing feature for me is the ability to release cabin pressure during flights when reaching high altitudes and when landing, by activating the atmospheric optimizer of the headphone. I used it for a couple of international flights and cabin pressure on my ears easily goes away.It's so great.
You’re EVERYWHERE
The Sony can do that? Jesus
Pure Awesomeness OMG RIGHT!
Fo real i just see your comment on every headphone review 😂😂
In case anyone is thinking to buy the Sony's - You can't EQ them using them wired (for example inflight entertainment) and without EQ they sound like ABSOLUTE SHIT!! Just a warning. I returned mine and ordered the Bose
The main advantage the Bose has over the Sony is that it can connect to multiple devices simultaneously, while the Sony can only be connected to one device at a time.
I have both ! .. my wife uses the QC35 , and I Use the XM3 .. tested both out and prefer the XM3 , by a high margin actually
The one gripe I have with the XM3 is when you go to grab the headphones off, you may sometimes skip a track or stop the music. Also I feel like I have to baby the XM3 because of the matte coating and I fear it will scuff and show way more than the Bose. The Bose I’ve had for almost 2 years and I rarely baby it and it still looks new. I don’t know if that will be the case for the XM3s.
can you wear them for a long period of time? Say, a 10+ hour flight.
@@thedirewolf5535 we just took an 8 hour flight last month , and we both didnt have a problem so I believe 10 hour flight should be fine , they're both very comfortable .
Which one do you think is better for sound quality?
Ha Z. The Sony is a bassier than the Bose but you can control that with the phone app to control the equalizer.
I bought the Bose and regret nothing. First of all, I didn´t pay the 350$ price tag, got them on Amazon for 240$. The drawbacks I can think of are:
- The micro USB charging port - demanding a specific cable, I preventing me from using the USB C cables I already use for the rest of the stuff (however the battery is very solid so charging these only once a week makes it less painful to have to use a different cable).
- The top headband - For one it could have more padding, since after a long period of time it start to state its presence. And also... The headband is made of 2 different hardware pieces and they are separate of one another so when I feel it in my hands it sometimes feel cheap and unfinished, but nothing to be worried about, since when they go on the head they are just fine.
- The earcups are quite confortable but after I would say 1 hour you would want to take them off to give your ears some room to breathe and also rest the area around the ear where the earcups rest.
The rest is fantastic - I quite enjoy the sound (note however that these headphones are not bass oriented, so consider which music you listened to, because I can safely say that hearing EDM on my old sony's was more fun), the noise cancelling for me is on the border line of exceptional, the build is very flexible and solid, the dials and interface the best placed in any headphone I've had and are very easy to use when on the head and finally the carrying case is the final touch of quality on the total package.
Why I picked these over the sony's:
- The Sony's can't pair with more than 1 device at a time and 95% of the time I use my headphones with my phone and mac and the same time and the transition from from one to the other is fantastic on the Bose.
- When I bought the Bose, the Sony's were still 350$ so that 110$ difference just didn't cut for me.
- Most of people I've listened to said that they prefered the Bose in terms of confort and since I've had numerous bad experiences with unconfortable headphones in the past I always leaned more towards the Bose side (however I never I the chance I experience the Sony's in person, so it actually might just be a matter of opinion).
If they are at the same price, I would probably go Sony for better future proofing but if the situation is something like mine was (100$ + difference) then the benefits and advantages of the Sony aren't enough to win them over the Bose.
I just bought the Sony one and used them for twice then my left ear felt pains
Could you please post a link for Bose at USD 240
I got the MH-1000XM3 from Sony for free with a preorder of the XZ3.
@@pt020 can you send link? I cant find that anywhere but sounds like a really good deal
I have a bose and have tried the sonys.
The Sony sounds better.
The bose is more comfy by far.
But, but have their flaws. All ANC headphones sounds like it's raining if you are in a really quiet environment.
I'm in my really quiet room, no noise and my Bose headphone is even louder than my quiet room due to the anc. If you don't mind the rainy noise.
I use my headphones at work connected to my laptop and phone at the same time - having the Bose really works for this. I had an older pair of PLT headphones that didnt support multi device, and it was super frustrating for dealing with disconnecting and reconnecting bluetooth between the phone/computer as I got to and left work.
The Bose may not have the App or Bass that the XM3's have, but I much prefer having the multi device functionality, call quality and physical buttons over Sony's app or noise cancelling. It's all about what you value in a headset overall.
Great video!
I picked the Sony over the Bose. I tested both and for me the Sony is a lot more easier to listen to. I'm not sure if there's an issue with the Bose test unit, but I felt like the vocals are a bit too piercing for me.
I bought the Sony a couple of weeks ago and am very happy with my decision!
Sony need to sort the clamping on the jaw, and only being to connect to one device at a time.
Incredible headphones, but the Bose win on comfort for me.
Bose wins in comfort hands down because of its ability to seamlessly switch between paired devices. This is a comfort feature that is often missed in reviews. I had the Bose QC35II and replaced them with the Sony WH-1000XM3. While the XM3 sounds better and is comfortable to wear, it was useless for most people's everyday needs. My need for being able to seamlessly switch from my home laptop, to my phone, to my work laptop, and back and forth is what led me to sell the XM3 and buy the QC35II again. There is a huge thread on the Sony forum and Sony still has not addressed this. It is sad that Sony did not include this. It is sadder that Sony will not admit that.
I doubt everybody needs to have seemless switch from one device to another.
On the other hand Bose needs to up its game with the next iteration of the QC. It's dated.
@@guntherfurlong you would be surprised how much this convenience is needed when you need to switch between devices. Many people, who have the means to buy these headphones, probably have access to a phone and a computer. So having the ability to seamless switch between two audio devices is a necessary feature
@@longphan9532 It's a nice feature to have but not the end of the world not having it. I know many who have headphone but just mainly stick to one device.
As I've said before... Bose has to up the game come next iteration. It's good to have Sony to compete with them
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@@guntherfurlong I work in tech. Many people have these. This is a common complaint we all have. You keep forgetting that they advertised support of two devices. It does not. Just because they use it for one device does not mean that they are not annoyed by the lack of this feature. Next time you see someone with one, ask them how they feel about the lack of the feature
@@longphan9532 As I've said before it's not a big issue to me. I have many friends like me using the same headphones... Maybe it's because we don't work in the tech industry but it's not the biggest needs in my opinion.
Stick to the Bose cos it works for you. I personally don't need this feature and so far those I spoke to are not bothered whether this feature is present or not but if it work for you.... stick to the bose. the current feature set on the Sony does a good job for me. Maybe Sony will add this feature in the future iterations. Bose again need to up their game in their next update at the same time.
Have a good day ahead 👍🏾
Also, you forgot to mention that if you want to use LDAC, you are bound to the stock sound signature of the Sony's. Whenever you touch the EQ setting on them, they revert to SBC, which means that the supported audio codecs become moot. Just a thing to consider, you are essentially giving up the codecs if you don't like Sony's stock sound signature.
Good comparison. The deal breaker on the Sony for me was the single Bluetooth connection. When I'm on the train I don't want to have to switch between my phone and tablet
Hi, I have both as well... The Sony XM3 sound much better than Bose but the Bose are more comfortable to wear especially for long durations. Also I find the call quality to be better on the Bose than the Sony as per call receiver feedback
you skipped comfort. I love the M3's for sound but the QC35's can't be beat for ear comfort
@wagwan for battyman but if you have to choose 1 for comfort. What will you pick ?
@wagwan for battyman Thanks. I have just ordered Bose qc 35ii 3-4 hours back and both of these headphones are available at same price.
Should I cancel my Bose order and go for Sony or should I stay with Bose. I actually like the comfort but I love base in music.
Please advice asap.
@wagwan for battyman Thanks Mate but Is sony's sound quality way good or marginally good ?
@wagwan for battyman I am from India and have tested qc 35 ii only and I loved the comfort and sound quality. Unfortunately due to lack of time I haven't heard sony's. But I think I should go with Bose. Thanks for your time and honest reviews. Good luck mate.
QC35 is better in sound either.
I tried both for a couple of weeks but eventually kept Bose. simply because it was more comfortable for me. Just one thing I am annyoyd with is the micro usb charger instead of usb c.
the Sony's are way overhyped, i was actually disappointed in the XM3's - Bose and the Sennheiser PXC 550's are better for sure, as they have better richer lower bass frequencies.
you know, in the real world... not youtube paid promotions.. wow, sony went real wild with that..
Do they work in the cold?
No?
Then I'll choose the QC35s. Easiest choice ever. All this other stuff doesn't matter.
Yeah that's the big deal breaker for me as well, and the fact that the xm3 don't support simultaneous multiple devices connected
I really want to like the XM3s, but if they don't work properly when the temperature drops, then I'm not gonna bother with them. When you buy a pair of headphones you expect them to work. That's like the number 1 priority. Hopefully they fix these issues with the XM4s.
I have the XM3 and they really are top notch however there is one problem with them that I am absolutely shocked that Sony did not catch during Quality Control. Basically in cold weather the touch controls can be activated at random without any input from the user. I'm walking down the sidewalk and suddenly my music pauses or jumps to the next track; and the only way to fix it is to turn off the headset and turn it back on. This according to Sony resets the headphone somehow so it can work properly in the cold. As you can imagine when you live in a country like Canada this can become really frustrating.
also i had the sony, and returned it the next day, just hurt my ears, the inner cups touched the sides of my ears constantly and i don't have huger ears. The bose may have less features but comfort levels are off the charts, which sound guys here didn't even mention.
Same
Sony don’t support multiple source auto-switching or dual headphone pairing like Bose.
Exactly.
Yup, which is why I returned the XM3 in favor of the QC35 II. No multipoint bluetooth, no sale.
The multiple source connection is not a feature I ever thought about. But it's a must for me now...I go from my phone to laptop seemlessly.
Also the sonys have too much bass..you can equalize but when plugged in equalizer goes to defailt
Dual headphone pairing? How many ears do you have?
Finally This was one of the most detailed Comparision I have seen in recent days.
i'm a little annoyed that i bought an XM2 a few months before they released the XM3. Still great headphones but i still gotta charge them with micro USB!
Both have issues. The major issue with Sony is that the company doesn't listen to their customers. The one device support is a major deal breaker.
Although I haven't called Bose yet, I'd say the exact same thing about their headpones, and by reading the same issue in their forums they don't listen. My Bose headphone is extremely difficult to connect to my brand new PC via bluetooth, and the signal stutters so badly when it finally does it's unusable, and unstable. Connecting via bluetooth to my phone however is flawless and works great. But i want to be wire free on my pc which is what I bought it for.
@Selcorall I was able to solve the problem by purchasing a USB BLUETOOTH DONGLE . I disabled the onboard bluetooth. I believe it's a problem with the computer hardware or software (I have an iBUYPOWER) or combination of both. The headphones now work great. I'm still pissed off however I had to purchase a $20 dongle to fix an issue on a brand new computer.
Shailen Sobhee yeah like with Spider-Man lmao
It is a problem of your PC Bluetooth adapter. New driver update should solve this.
Bose QC45's are creepin' right around the corner. I have and love the 35's. If the Bose didn't exist then I would 💯% be with Sony. Both great but I bought the Bose first and honestly besides missing usb-c the Bose are perfect to me.
How do you know the 45s are on the way? I’m considering waiting until then and have heard some saying they could be around as soon as June, with others suggesting there may be a couple years to wait
@@donnellydominoes1134 just rumors and my gut feeling.
Starting to see sales on QC35s, often a sign they're starting to move current stock to make way for a new model.
Fraid not mate, no more qc's, the new Bose 700s, online now, I do not like the look of completely new model.
I am obviously leaning towards the M3 but I have heard of some issues
-Phantom touches on the controls in cold weather
-Cracking at the headband and hinges (prevalent in older models too)
-Misread swipes on the controls
Can you talk about these please
I replaced my original QC 35s with the Sony XM3 for 2 days before returning them XM3. Three reasons why:
1. Comfort. I can wear the Bose for hours without even noticing them. With the Sony, 30 minutes and my ears were hot and had to take breaks.
2. I didn’t think the difference between pairing multiple devices (Bose) vs just one (Sony) would be a big deal, but it was. Huge, in fact.
3. The dealbreaker on the XM3 for me was phone call quality - it wasn’t good. I make a lot of business calls in loud environments and with the XM3, not only did the noise cancelling not help, but the ambient sounds were amplified in my headphones. Never had a problem with the Bose.
The XM3s sound great, but they just weren’t for me.
The Sony’s are great yes...until you try to connect more than one device. With multipoint they suck, forcing you to manually disconnect from device 1 before connecting to device 2. The Bose has true multipoint support. I can connect to my iPhone and iPad simultaneously and seamlessly switch between them without ever pressing a button. This is why I’m selling my 1000MX3’s. Shame more reviewers don’t mention this flaw
So true and this is why I'm choosing Bose
Steven Clark you can pair the Sony’s with 2 devices just like the Bose, lol. Just need to hold power button about 7 secs
@@alcapone5990 Hi! Can we pair sony 1000XM3 to Laptop and Mobile simultaneously?
I have used both. I prefer the ‘Bose because I like its sound stage. However, the Sony’s are louder. Always a trade off somewhere. Can’t go wrong with either set.
just tried the sonys but honestly i am not feeling it. something is just off...
Well I mean everyone has their take on the audio signature maybe this particular one wasn't to your ears taste 🤣 maybe you'd prefer something like the jbl headphones signature or the plantronics backbeat pro 2 perhaps they are actually pretty good audio wise
Hello these headphone's are really really good in a lot of ways. I've had these for sometime now and I can now give a honest review on them. I also have the Bowers and Wilken's Px's,Sennheiser px 550's and the parrot zik's and now these here. The build quality of them has gotten better from the last model mainly the fit. The noise cancelling is simply outstanding. The call quality isn't the best but somewhat decent. The battery life on these are also really good!The sound signature on them is really good! My ear's did slightly sweat after a few hour's of wearing them though. These are the only headphone's I've ever owned that didn't cut out when I stepped into best buy bravo Sony! The touchpad you have to be precise with the gestures on it or you'll skip a song quite frequently. I also don't like the double tap to answer or pause you have to get that right to do either one of those. And other gripes are the long press of the power button on or off and that dang short ass charging cable they come with. It's like 2 or 3inches.... the next version to these should be magnificent if sony listens to us consumer's which i think they do👌🏾✊🏽
i found the pxc 550's better than the sony, i was disappointed .. the bass isn't the best on more demanding songs. limited frequency..nice mid tone though..
I tried both of them last month. In terms of ANC, sony is the clear winner but when it comes to comfort, bose qc 35 ii is the king. Eventually, I ended up keeping the bose. I think the choice between these two would mainly depend on these two factors.
As my old headphones are officially trash and I don't have time to wait I'm basically certain to purchase one of the two tomorrow. Since there's a whole lot of factors and I don't want to regret what I'm likely going to do is try one for a week, return and purchase the other and buy back/keep the one I prefer.
Springloft Studio while the mic quality wasn’t something I was too worried about as I have a dedicated mic I just purchased the Bose QC35 II as I trust its more confortable and more importantly should last longer without breaking (can replace the cushions etc). Thanks for the heads up!
@@BlinciLIVE hey there, I apologise for replying to your comment from 2 years ago but did you end up getting the Bose or Sonys and what made you decide to get them? Thanks
@@MrGW2fanboy I went for the Bose as I think they last longer, have some replaceable parts and better cushions. I don't use them 24/7 but they have been great for work, games and flights. Hope this helps!
I have the sony, friend of mine has the bose. My preference definitely goes to the sonys :)
You guys are amateurs why? Cuz you can put ear plugs in your ear then put your 3$ headphones and now it's called NOISE CANCELLING HEADPHONES!! instead spending 250-300$ headphones try my WAY YOU CAN ONLY COST 4.99$!!!
excellent and super informative...made my decision for the Sony M3''s !!! thanks for the insight on the app and mic !!!
Did Sony fix the touch control from going crazy in cold weather conditions, if not will wait for the QC 45 or XM4.
I'm on a fence between these two. I've just checked amazon review and yes, it's still an issue. A deal breaker for me because I hate touch controls and live in Canada.
It's fixed through Sony's new update for the headphones. You can turn off the touch sensor via the app
@@artemyargon7064 Yeah, but if id i buy the xm3 i will just get annoyed by the turning off and on again of the touch pad, going for the bose.
i just got the xm3 and my gf said: "what over 200€? why didn't you get the beats?"
seems like they still have a way too good reputation
The M3 keeps Sony alive in the headphones market.
I also have the h.ear on 2 on the go and they're great aswell
What about dirt and the Sony silver colour? DOes it get dirty easily? Is the dirt easy to clean?
Great review. Just wondered when will you be reviewing the Bose 700?
Get the Sennheiser HD1 (Momentum 2) wireless instead. Bose's QC35's sound so subpar compare to the Sennheiser HD1, however the Sony M3 has the better noise cancelling than both. So, if you prefer Sound quality, get Sennheiser HD1, for noise cancelling: Sony M3.
I really wanted to like the Sony's but had to go with Bose.
Comfort for me, on the Sony's my ears touched the drivers and after only 30 minutes I had to take them off because the headband hurt. Bose are no issues at all.
Sound. You can tweak both to sound great. But out of the box the Bose murders the Sony's. Sony bass bleeds far too much in the midrange it sounds muddy and overemphasized. Again, you can tweak both to your liking.
Oh and the streaming quality? On paper Sony wins in features, but not in practice. If you want LDAC, you cant adjust eq settings. Of course music you can use the music app's eq and you're fine. But TH-cam and any other sound where you cant adjust eq will sound like a muddy mess.
Also the Sony touch controls go haywire in the cold. I ride the bus every day to work and walk a few blocks in MN winters. No joke, I'd stop off the bus and about 20 seconds later (below zero temp) the sound stops and you have to let the headphones warm up before you can use them again. If the temp is 40 or below the sound stops after a few minutes.
All those reasons I decided the Bose were best FOR ME. I stress that because were all different and I'm sure most of you are in a warmer climate than I am....and I'm jealous!
This: If you want LDAC, you cant adjust eq settings I So are aptx ,aptx hd (sic!)
Wow! So useful. I have both headphones. Agree with the review.
Baard Overgaard Hansen hows your experienced about comfortable?because I have big head and I wanna upgrade my wh1000xm2 coz I cant used it for a long time for my headpain
I buy the successor to BOSE QC35....BOSE all the way baby love them
for better frequency range, the sennheiser pxc 550 wins hands down (i have all 3) the sony has a really nice upper mid range bass tone but can't go that deep or rich.
if you are looking for just great rich sound, they are extremely overhyped.. as they all are..as bluetooth quality all-rounders they are an excellent choice.
Ok the bose have multiple connections to many devices but the sonys have ANC so you can connect them quickly to any device that supports that i like my WH-1000XM3 I chose them over the bose cause the sound quality is better and the instrument separation is the best ever
To me all of the anc headphones have always sounded like crap :/ Idk why
Best and better is pathetic choice words. Hearing, sound quality, and audio preference is all personal. I owned the first two 1000Xs which I really liked and the M3 I love.
try watching all the test videos about sonys mic outside in real life, esp firmware 2.0.0 .. and say that sonys are the best again... they should take the best of both and combine. man that would rock.
I have both XM2 and QC35II. even on the XM2 the Sonys are better on ANC and sound quality. Bose though for comfort. so On the go i pick up the Bose, but for higher quality listening i pick up the Sony, set my android to LDAC and rock FLacs.
You know this kind of review is supported by factual data mixed with very little personal opinions making this, by far, the best review I’ve seen thus far! Also a note... Knowing this review is getting older the headphone market hasn’t quite caught up with this sony WH-1000X M3 and there’s a sale on Amazon for an “international” version. Same exact model just lacking a US warranty. This can be circumvented by buying the 3 year accident protection warranty for $35.00 USD totaling my purchase at $285.00 minus tax and free overnight shipping to boot! Great video and thank you so much!
I have tried both and the Bose has much better mic. That’s strange
Great video 👍🏻 I‘ve seen a lot of reviews but this is the best, I like it that you put in the diagrams with the sound- and noisecancelling quality. This helps a lot to choose which one I will buy.
I bought these recently and then tried to make a phone call in a fairly noisy coffee house. If I'm talking just into my cell phone, the people on the other end of the line did not complain about the background noise. The headset, however, seems to pick up noise from too far away. To add insult to injury, it also played all that noise back through my headphones. Is it possible that a future firmware update limits the microphone to sounds originating no further than 10 cm from the microphone? I.e. my voice? Isn't that possible with near-field microphones and if so, why wouldn't Sony opt for these?
I really want to get the Sony's but I'm pretty sure the M4 is just around the corner, so I guess I'll wait for that 🥺
NeutralGenericUser I have the same feeling and I’ve been wanting to buy them for a month now , however i think there is no need for a rush here, i’ll wait to see if the m4 are a major upgrade which I’m pretty sure they will be and the i’ll purchase them.
My sentiment exactly. If they're not a major upgrade, I'm sure you'll be able to find much better deals on the M3s. The only thing that bothers me is that we've heard nothing about the M4's yet. I was expecting to hear something by now :/ I suppose my Bose QC25's are still ok for the moment, but I hate the wires.
NeutralGenericUser im looking to buy good headphones for christmas should i get the xm3?
bruneh definitely they are the best in the market and at this time you can find good offers for the xm3’s . However i suggest you try their fit and see if they suit you before purchasing.
Mohammad Reda would you think the headphone version is better than the earphone one (wf-1000xm3)? im not sure which one to get for christmas
Just a heads up from someone who owns the quiet comfort. They aren’t worth it audio wise. Everything always sounds buried and muffled. The only way to begin to hear things is cranking them which defeats the purpose for my uses. V moda crossfade ii’s are way more worth it. With their price tag you get actual quality. Bose just tries to impress with a nice box, package products, features that don’t even work, and that’s where it ends. It also seems the headphones go from too quiet to over the top loud. I don’t want to rant but I want to spare someone buying these for the wrong reason. The only thing that is ok (it could be better) is the noise cancelling which in reality is only effecting at wiping out LOW environment background noise. I will stress the quality of the sound is not worth it. Even Akg headphones destroy these. On most of my favorite artists songs it all sounds clutter, the guitars are way too low, the bass has a thud but it’s not clear, and they feel like they could break at slightest whim. My V moda crossfade ii’s had superior sound quality where the sound was WIDE, so loud they could deafen you, extremely comfortable, built like German tanks, and everything was crystal clear for ALL genres. To me they are general consumer headphones marketed like the beats.
There is one annoying thing with the 1000xm3, when i wanted to eq them in their app they forced me to switch from priority on sound quality to priority on stable connection. Because of that connection reverted from ldac to sbc. Not a lot of people mention this.
Excellent review Gents! Concise, visual aids reflecting testing explained well enough, and above all; unprejudiced opinion all delivered quickly without the added 'noise' of watching you drive into work, making breakfast as you intro the subject matter of your post or other such nonsense. Now if you could just teach the rest of the world to review like this, we consumers would be forever in your debt. Cheers!
Nice review. However, why don't you test both pairs for their microphone performance in a rather realistic environment such as in a cafe, a bus or while walking down the street with a considerable amount of noises? Your test in a relatively quiet room just shows one side of the data IMHO. Cheers for the good work though!
Hi,
Just went through your video and I really like your work, guys. Still, I've got a little question though and I'm not sure if this question has been asked before, but is this Sony headphone compatible with PS4?
Keep up the good work.
That mic test was awesome! Oh yeah... I bought the Sony cans cause of the sound signature. Right amount of bass and treble... D-lish sound!
Yessir.
I watched your informative video on my Samsung Galaxy Note 9 and listened thru my Sony WH-1000XM3.
Rey Sajulga weird flex but ok
I don't use my headphones for calling and voice clarity (Bose wins there but its not thing with me I use) so continuing on battery is important to me and Sony kills it with 30 hours but Bose 20-22 is still very good.....comfort sorry guys Bose is called the Quiet-comfort and they win this every time...at least for now. Usb-c is a huge let down but I am sure Bose will change that wit their next model. Bose for $300 or Sony for $350......I'll take the Bose but both are great. I'm not hating or knocking Sony. If in the future I could grab the Sony m3's for $250-280 brand new I might jump on them.
I return Bose QC35 to buy Sony1000XM2. Great decision! Someone stole them. I waited for six months and bought Sony1000XM2 again. These are addictive, very comfortable and great battery life!
Question: What about the touch controls on the Sonys in cold weather? Not meaning gloves, just response to the touch in cold environments. Just imagining that physical controls might have an edge there?
So, both Chris and Adam live to the north of Boston, and they go through some pretty cold winters. So far, neither have had issues with it BUT that doesn't mean that it isn't an issue. It could just be that 0F(-17C) isn't cold enough to cause those problems... or it's device-centric, or any one of a ton of different issues. It's a little too warm out for them to test that again, but Chris is a little crazy when it comes to test design, so who knows what he cooks up in the future?
@@SoundGuys it's cold
Sorry for my ignorance, but just to make sure- how many decibels is 100hertz?
But what about connecting to multiple devices at once?! Or switching between connected devices?
Can you please review Bose quite comfort 35ii after the new firmware 4.5.2?
ANC high mode is barely the same as the mode!
RTINGS has confirmed that ANC performance has decreased by 4 dB!
Bose is denying this!!
Orian Orian is this still an issue with the Bose QuietComfort 35 ii?
I am facing the same issue. May be they have done it to reduce ear pressure but couldnt do it without compromising on anc.
@@matthewmunday9591 yes.. and bose is still denying the issue
@@sierraalpha65 I agree with u
Sold the Bose and bought the Sonys after using Bose for 2 weeks. Below are my observation.
1) I personally felt Bose has better sound signature over all. Flat and clean. Sony sort of distorts after 80% of volume and amplifies it unnecessarily.
2) Sony has a tad better ANC. But Bose is not bad either.
3) The most important thing for me was this, Sony is is more comfortable for my ears and Bose started irritating my ears just after 30 to 40 minutes. But Sony can hold up to an hour or a little more.
4) I definitely like the touch gestures much more than Bose's buttons.
6) Yet to check the fast charging and battery life on the Sony. With Bose I was using it for 4 to 4 days and a couple of hours a day.
7) Call quality is definitely better on Bose for both Caller and Receiver. But Sony is not too bad.
I chose the Sony mainly for comforts and the touch gestures. I definitely wouldn't have sold the Bose hadn't it been that uncomfortable.
Great content and analysis. Subscribed
Brilliant analysis, commentary and overall video. Amazon Prime should be delivering my WH1000XMS later this afternoon.👍
Sorry, but you did not test voice recording together with ANC at all. If you did that you would have find out, that the microphone setup as a whole on the Sonys are terrible and you just can't have a phone call with them outside. See a gazillion of other videos describing that.
Why are both the Bose QC35ii and Sony 1000XM3 headphones made of plastic for the price you pay?
I was really disappointed to find out that the Sony's don't support multiple devices like the Bose. This is huge for me as I love not having to connect/disconnect to my laptop/phone if I want to hear audio on the other device. I don't know why more people don't favour this option?
Ultimately deciding to wait for the QC35 III's as I want more codec support and USB-C. If the Sony's had multiple device support I would buy them in a heartbeat.
And than sony 4th will be better than qc3. Wait for sony. They already took the lead. Think smart.
This was very informative. Great in-depth analysis
When is the Bose QC45 going to be released??
Sonys are great but when paying that much money and having part of the inside of the arm break off from the simplest motion and having sony tell you that it isnt covered via warranty is a bit rich.... Moved to the QC 35s, if im paying this much money i want something that is lasting more than a year. Poor customer service sony
The microphone/call test I kindly have to disagree, the Sony headphones; when it comes to calls are trash. I own the WH1000m3, the amount of ambient sound they allow during a call is terrible. The other person can not hear me at all. Only when I decrease the volume of the headphones, the ambient sound is better but I can't hear the person on the other side of the call.
I have checked online regarding this issue and there is a fair amount of complaint about this, even after receiving new pair of the headphones. If anyone has any tips or fixes please let me know
@@ridwanahmed1486 I can second this. Mic quality isn't s huge issue to me but in the short time I had the Sony's I recorded my own voice and it sounded awful. Bose (while not amazing) did a better job.
@@Jefafa73 exactly, I've tested the QC35 and they do a better job. I'm just wondering is this something that all noise cancelling headphones have in common or is it just the Sony. Before the M3 I was using the M1: they had a similar problem but not as bad.
@@ridwanahmed1486 . So M2
Actually, I think you should buy the Sennheiser 4.50 btnc, better value for the $
Finally some data on nc and not subjective opinions
The Sony has too much high bass and sound veiled and less clear.
The Bose has a punchier bass and is more clear with a larger soundstage. It’s just the low treble is a bit too much at times.
The call quality on the Bose is far better as it sounds more clear for voice, the Sony sounds veiled in comparison.
The codec support argument is invalid as AAC is good enough for everyone. I did many abx blind tests with many different people. No one could reliably tell AAC from aptx, ldac, or aptx hd.
And if the source is aac then it is a lossless conversion
You made a lot of claims.
Sources to support all those claims?
@@kennethchubs Just search for both frequency response, rtings has explanations for both of them.
As AAC/aptx/ldac/aptxhd/any there are too many snake oils in audio world, for example only few people could tell the differences between 320kbps and FLAC or DSD, in a blind test? even fewer.
Heck there are even people claiming different cable different sound, that is simply delusional.
Codec will mostly matter only in delay(still lacking in wireless) and distortion/compression(if any).
I own both and I prefer the Bose. The sound is more audiophile with a much better soundstage and clarity. The Sony earpads are too thin and flattened.
What do you mean by "audiophile sound"
I think that the Sony sounds better with most reviewers agreeing
Well then again these are used primarily for their noise cancellation and not their sound quality
The Sony offers a thick sound with a lot of bass but the soundstage is very narrow and the lack of details is obvious. It is a common element of low-end headsets. Most people who evaluate these headphones on TH-cam don’t know anything about high-end audiophile headphones and for them, the Sony is the new Beats.
@@anandhua.b4589 Bose is the closest to Harman target, one of the closest actually no matter the price range, wired, etc.
Sony are more Beats sounding.
@maitrehg high end audiophile headphones come in many forms some may be flat and neutral sounding like the hd800 while some may be bassy or warm or may have a rich sound signatures like lcd2 ,Fostex th900s, or the final d8000 so high end headphones have different sound signatures and not are always hd800s that is soundstage cans
And yeah Jude from headfi has a lot more experience than I do with high end headphones and he does are with Sony being the better sounding one
well then again everyone has different hearing
@@user-23590 no they are not the Bose is just no highs and no lows your product just be Bose
I just have one device to connect my headphone with. I just need an anc wireless headphone with good sound quality. So xm3 is a way to go?? Or bose??
I will but Sony WH1000xm3 very soon. thanks for providing useful data.
I came to this video trying to decide between these two pairs of headphones expecting to find another video that just presents the same ideas/data as others but was very impressed to see actual data organized from structured tests. This video took all of the ideas that other people have briefly touched on and takes it to the next level with real numbers and visuals. Keep up the good work boys
Valuable review!!!! with no bool..t! thanks!
Ok, so for a channel that is called 'The Sound Guys', why is the audio in this video so bad. The voice is REALLY scratchy and hard to listen to.
Otherwise though, content of the video is nice as I am trying to decide on one of these headphones, but still seems kind of wierd.
is the truth that "sony" have a lower tone, or higher bass ??? Pleas info. Thx!
Fist time on your channel. This was an awesome comparison. Real, empirical data. Well done! New sub on the way.
Both are great, as for new Bose 700s? Not for me. Got Bose QC25 and 35s, but Sony from now on. Bose, if it ain't broke.........
Thank you for not beating around the bush🙌
Super helpful. Thank you! Just needed a little guidance as to which one to buy and got the info I needed. Going for Sony :-)
Any idea when will bose release a new version??? Don't know if its a good time to buy the current one
Brand Yu I’m tryna figure this out myself.. I kind of really want to get the QC35 but if they’re releasing a new model soon I don’t want to buy mark 2 when I could have gotten the next gen. :(
Check out their new Bose NC 700
P0wer2R0ll Great! Thanks man
Not forget to mention the Sony's suport hi-res audio. How do you compare the sound quality to the B&O h9i to these headphones🤔?
@@SpringloftStudio i've come to the same conclusion. The overall sound of the XM3's is mudded and sounds artificial to me.
How does sony mic work in a noisy environment? No tests
Have you ever used poweramp app? I would love you to do a guide to all the settings like the stuff you mention here... the stuff I've no idea about like Ldac and other words you mentioned (which I've noticed in poweramp settings) 😂
As a audiophile i still perfer my legendary HD600s from sennheiser over any other headphone by far the best sounding headphone ive used plus they last forever!
Jacob Charters which setup do you have with them? Thinking about getting them over regular wireless headphones.
Going to wait on Sony's next headphones to see if they build with better material. Reading too many complaints about Sony's headbands breaking and Sony warranty wont cover a fix or replacement, rendering a $350 pair of headphones useless.
What’s the Bose qc35ii’s serial number did you used for testing ?
Excelent objective facts and data driven video