This is a very important message. Thank you. And the algorithm should broadcast it to everyone for their information instead of getting all finicky on Sue's recital.
it makes total sense that if/when under duress and stress , our brains would try to offer a way out, even if it's really not a good idea to take the path of _"Sue's Recital"_ more people need to learn the 4 opposing responses - Fight - Flight - Freeze - Fawn and more importantly HOW TO RECOGNISE in which we're at in any moment as always, Jeremy, thank you for sharing your vulnerability helps so many others to understand ourselves better
One thing that wasn't clear to me is how wide the ideation thing is. When I saw the different symptoms of depression I left that one out because I thought it involved concrete thinking about the act as far as making plans for it. But it turns out to include even passing thoughts of "I'd be better off ..." that I knew nearly my entire life.
This helps a lot and your timing couldn't be better. Just had a huge breakdown last night in the middle of the night just feel like I can't take much more. I need to do happy things but I'm struggling to function at all so it's tough.
Excellent video, thanks! (To all classical musicians named Sue, sorry but thanks for giving us the TH-cam words so that we can have meaningful discussions here. 🤪🥰😁 )
Holy shit this is helpful. I wish I was dead every single day. I do have untreated low grade depression constantly (yes I’m on antidepressants but they utterly suck n leave you never able to feel joy). My 3 grown kids and grandbaby on the way keeps me here
I'm glad i no longer take that stuff. It only hurt and never helped me. The research on them is frightening. (Not company sponsored research) Hope you get better. The struggle is very real
If you've been on the same med for awhile you can talk to your doctor about weaning you from that and trying something new. It can be a lot of work to find the meds that work for you, and after being on the same one for a while your body can stop responding to it. I hope you find peace, and I'm glad you have that family anchor.
@@mageSjoy Ty. I have to switch back n forth between Effexor and Cymbalta bc I require a SSNRI n I don’t handle the others. I need ketamine treatments or TMS but there are barriers
Never thought of it as a flight response 🤔 Interesting! I was fortunate to have a mom who always tried to teach us about mental health. I told her that the recital thoughts were confusing af, because I always get scared when something can potentially ouch me, and isn’t Sue’s recital one of those Ultimate ™ things? So after talking for a bit, we came to a similar conclusion: we don’t want the recital, we want something to stop it already. And when stuff is going on that seems like it will never stop, Sue’s recital seems like the only way to get relief, so we need to instead talk to someone we trust who might be able to help figure out healthy ways of relief
Thanks for sharing the lucky part. I get that all the time so strongly and I'm sad you relate, but glad im not alone in it. This reaction was one of the ways I became more aware of my depression in general and was encouraged to share with someone how i felt. It was an absolute tragedy that a couple people had done this in my teens, but i was only wildly jealous of them, and that woke me up to the seriousness. But i appreciate this explanation. It makes so much sense. I won't have to feel as ashamed or guilty for it framed this way.
I'm furious every time people celebrate pregnancies and the birth of children and relieved when I hear of the death of a child. Children deserve better than this garbage world. And yes, it partially stems from my own horrific endless human experience that I don't dare attempt to conclude by my hand for fear the universe will make it infinitely worse (if that's even possible at this point). But I don't think I'd feel much differently even otherwise, given how horrible the world is. Hope is a cruel delusion that makes people force other humans to come into this world and experience the horrors they themselves are barely surviving.
This is a very important message. Thank you. And the algorithm should broadcast it to everyone for their information instead of getting all finicky on Sue's recital.
Thank you so much. You put into words feelings I have been having and had a hard time communicating to my husband and therapist. Thank you!!
That makes a lot of sense! I'm not.. Sue's recital, but relate to experiencing the urge to go to her recital as a flight response.
it makes total sense that if/when under duress and stress , our brains would try to offer a way out, even if it's really not a good idea to take the path of _"Sue's Recital"_
more people need to learn the 4 opposing responses
- Fight
- Flight
- Freeze
- Fawn
and more importantly HOW TO RECOGNISE in which we're at in any moment
as always, Jeremy, thank you for sharing
your vulnerability helps so many others to understand ourselves better
I never listened to that point of view but it sounds relieving.
One thing that wasn't clear to me is how wide the ideation thing is.
When I saw the different symptoms of depression I left that one out because I thought it involved concrete thinking about the act as far as making plans for it.
But it turns out to include even passing thoughts of "I'd be better off ..." that I knew nearly my entire life.
This helps a lot and your timing couldn't be better. Just had a huge breakdown last night in the middle of the night just feel like I can't take much more. I need to do happy things but I'm struggling to function at all so it's tough.
Sending so much love. It’s very hard but the world is better with you in it
Excellent video, thanks!
(To all classical musicians named Sue, sorry but thanks for giving us the TH-cam words so that we can have meaningful discussions here. 🤪🥰😁 )
Holy shit this is helpful. I wish I was dead every single day. I do have untreated low grade depression constantly (yes I’m on antidepressants but they utterly suck n leave you never able to feel joy). My 3 grown kids and grandbaby on the way keeps me here
I'm glad i no longer take that stuff. It only hurt and never helped me. The research on them is frightening. (Not company sponsored research) Hope you get better. The struggle is very real
@@Baptized_in_Fire. Ty. That’s very kind
If you've been on the same med for awhile you can talk to your doctor about weaning you from that and trying something new. It can be a lot of work to find the meds that work for you, and after being on the same one for a while your body can stop responding to it. I hope you find peace, and I'm glad you have that family anchor.
@@mageSjoy Ty. I have to switch back n forth between Effexor and Cymbalta bc I require a SSNRI n I don’t handle the others. I need ketamine treatments or TMS but there are barriers
@@mageSjoy that's called the duration paradox. It's not fixing the root of the issue. Also, deprescribing must be done VERY carefully.
tysm for sharing this video. 🩵
Yes, that helps immensely. I’ve always wondered why I get that when I wouldn’t class myself as depressed at the time.
Thank u Jeremy, this does help a lot👍💜
Never thought of it as a flight response 🤔 Interesting!
I was fortunate to have a mom who always tried to teach us about mental health. I told her that the recital thoughts were confusing af, because I always get scared when something can potentially ouch me, and isn’t Sue’s recital one of those Ultimate ™ things? So after talking for a bit, we came to a similar conclusion: we don’t want the recital, we want something to stop it already. And when stuff is going on that seems like it will never stop, Sue’s recital seems like the only way to get relief, so we need to instead talk to someone we trust who might be able to help figure out healthy ways of relief
Thanks for this.
Thanks for sharing the lucky part. I get that all the time so strongly and I'm sad you relate, but glad im not alone in it.
This reaction was one of the ways I became more aware of my depression in general and was encouraged to share with someone how i felt. It was an absolute tragedy that a couple people had done this in my teens, but i was only wildly jealous of them, and that woke me up to the seriousness.
But i appreciate this explanation. It makes so much sense. I won't have to feel as ashamed or guilty for it framed this way.
Damn it Sue! I'm done going to your recitals!
"Oh lucky" I've had that thought.
😀
I'm furious every time people celebrate pregnancies and the birth of children and relieved when I hear of the death of a child. Children deserve better than this garbage world. And yes, it partially stems from my own horrific endless human experience that I don't dare attempt to conclude by my hand for fear the universe will make it infinitely worse (if that's even possible at this point). But I don't think I'd feel much differently even otherwise, given how horrible the world is. Hope is a cruel delusion that makes people force other humans to come into this world and experience the horrors they themselves are barely surviving.
Creepy vibes.