Do collagen supplements really work? 🤔 Dermatologist
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2024
- Do collagen supplements really work? Dermatologist @DrDrayzday talks about collagen peptides for skin, hair, and nails. What is the best collagen supplement for skin? Do collagen supplements work for wrinkles? Do collagen supplements help with hair growth? Do collagen supplements make your nails grow faster? #collagen #antiaging #dermatologist
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2 years ago I was going through some heavy shitt mentally. Then I found your channel and managed to focus more on self care and improving my skincare rather than all my other issues. Your skincare tips actually was one of my main ways into self care and again self love. Just wanted to say thank you for your existence and your amazing content!
You really did the right thing by focusing on yourself and practicing self love! …I too wanted to move away from the negativity of life and become “ self-centered “ and focuse on skin, body and beauty….when you focus on your beauty , it will draw more beauty into your life 🙂
Good point. Thank you for your existence Dr. Dray. You do help my mental state through skin care.
Wow, same here, Anja!
I love this.❤
@@nubbyrose87 Thank you too for your existence, and Anja N too. The world is better with nice people in it. 🙂
I’ve been using collagen supplements for about 4 years. As a runner & free weights enthusiast , I can say it works! I’m 54 & people think I’m much younger.
Yes girl, I’ve been running 3 miles a day for 3 yrs and weights. I take Vitamin D, Magnesium, and Collagen. No achy joints. I’m 33 in July 😊
How much collagen do you take and what kinds?
Ya but how do you know its not just your genetics? Like how do you know its that and not something else? Lol like how do you know
@@margaret77494 Vital Proteins Collagen Powder, 1 serving. 40 grams.
@@Zoeykw1087 everything is a possibility. I don’t think it hurts to try, my lab work is always great! I will say my father currently has a lot of cartilage loss. My mother has had osteoporosis since the age of 25 due to birth control. Consider me lucky, or the fact that I take my vitamins and collagen daily for at least 10 years.
I love Dr. Dray's videos. So informative. She gives out so much information in each video that I found it confusing...so I created a spreadsheet! I list all the products, the ingredients in each product, with a column for each major ingredient that is proven to help skin, and I check off each product for each column if that product has that ingredient. Phew! I cross reference to Dr. Dray's videos, too! She's been so helpful to me as I make my way through the 60's, when some awful things starting happening to my skin. Tiny sun spots, dark undereye circles suddenly appeared, jowls...yikes! NOW? I get compliments on my skin fairly often! Really. I'm like, "ME?" People don't even get close to guessing my age (but they're not looking closely). The major thing is...I started wearing a mineral-based strong sunblock on my face every single day. Even if it's cloudly. Even if I'm staying indoors. I'm still learning and trying out different kinds of products. Like Vitamin C serums....didn't work for me. Yes, I tried top quality for over a year...no difference that I can tell. Out with the Vitamin C! I use straight pure lemon juice now, instead, and rinse it off. Does it help? Well, it helps as much as the expensive Vit C serum did, but costs almost nothing. Biggest help besides sunblock? Retinaldehyde! I started taking Vital Proteins collagen, so I'm interested in knowing if I can expect it to help.
“promising” and “inconclusive” are very related notions. thanks for your takes on the new info. ❤
I was surprised that the bovine collagen (Primal Kitchen) actually helped my hip sockets and lower back which always ache the day after exercising. Took the bovine collagen daily in my coffee and one day noticed that I didn’t have that achy feeling anymore. I then tried marine collagen (California Gold Nutrition) that comes with hylauronic acid and vit C, and I noticed my baby hairs along my hairline growing back, especially the more sparse side. And my face skin felt more hydrated than usual. This did nothing for my joints tho. I mix it in my matcha with nut milk and I really like it! I’m currently trying grass fed gelatin powder to see if I get any noticeable results because it’s cheaper I think lol. I just wonder if these powders spike insulin in the morning on an empty stomach?
Which collagen source do you like best and why, bovine or marine?
My husband and I have been taking hydrolyzed bovine collagen about 4 years (now ages 77 and 70). His skin had become very fragile and bruised terribly, plus he has type 2 diabetes. He has ZERO bruising and tearing now. My arthritic joints are much less painful, and I do think my skin is firmer. I use Dr. Youn’s brand. Thank you for this important update.
Look at you all lovely in green! Such a complimentary color on you Dr Dray!
And PERFECT timing on this topic! I’ve only recently started taking the Vital Proteins collagen supplement, unsure if it’s beneficial or not. So thank you! Always count on you for super informative videos! 💚
I haven't watched your channel before, but I found this interesting and informative. Comparing myth and science in a concise but engaging way. The comments on hair especially. I've heard those claims but couldn't find the how collagen is related so it's good to understand the rational. Very helpful, thank you.
Would you consider doing an updated video on Elf skincare options? A dedicated video to the whole brand would be so helpful thanks! ❤
This is just my self reflection. I have been taking collagen for 8 months, been on retinol and red light therapy for a year. I felt so much better personally. And my overall health has been improved. BTW, I'm 45. I'd suggest people take it better sooner than later
Thank you. Would you suggest marine or regular?
@@SkyeeBlue3 you are so welcome. I have taken regular ones so far, whichever is on sale from Costco.
Are you doing red light therapy at home?
@@kirstenerikalopez1079 Yes. Planet fitness has it too. But it's not led light
@@chewiehunan thank you : )
I started collogen peptides 4 months ago for joint pain. I didn't notice anything (including growth in my hair and nails) But they're both thick anyway) so I was feeling discouraged, but I kept at it. Today, 4 months later I woke up and realized Im pain free! It was so gradual that I didn't even notice the change until now. I'm hoping next year I will notice it in my skin. 🙏
How much were you taking, and I'm curious what the brand was
Omega 3 fish oil is the only supplement that made the pain and stifness in my joints completly disappear. Really good, i was shocked, in 3 weeks i saw results.
Thank you so much for your summary There is so much pseudo science around collagens, and I appreciate your critique of not only the outcomes but of the studies themselves. I recently started taking shell-fish, hydrolyzed collagen in hopes of helping with joint pain. I know the evidence is not there yet but like you said, it is relatively low risk. The benefit I found right away was my weak nails growing faster and stronger. I’m only a month in to see any other results. Thank you again for providingI this info. I recently discovered your channel and appreciate your content.
Thanks for posting. You have such a gift of educating in such a practical and empowering way.
Thanks for watching
I learned that collagen production slows down after 25 and consuming alcohol increases the rate of collagen loss. That alongside learning other downsides to alcohol eventually turned me from a high functioning alcoholic to quitting cold Turkey in January!
Target had a huge sale on Orgain Collagen and Peptide Powder so I purchased it and wanted to learn more. I’ve been drinking it for 2 weeks and I noticed my nails had been transparent since 2018-ish. Now they are finally turning white 🫣💛
How has it been working for you so far ?
keep up the good work, and be so proud of yourself!!!
Thank you! You are one of the very few TH-camrs I actually trust when it comes to skincare because you objectively look at the research.
Hi! My husband and I take hydrolyzed collagen of type I, II and III. We see results in our skin elasticity and hydration. My husband also noticed that he gets less pain in his knees. Thank you for a good analysis by the way!
This doctor is so smart and analytical. I love how she takes these studies apart and doesn’t dumb down the content for her audience. Following her train of thought is as beneficial as her content.
Unlike Bobby Parrish, who is a scam artist
I was reluctant to take collagen until recently. Because of the most recent studies have shown some positive results, I have started to take 5 gr/day. I am 72. I hope it will go some way to preserving not only my skin, but also keep my joints working. Thank you once again Dr Dray. I look forward to your videos and the comments of others. 💙
not that you asked, but i would suggest looking into increasing your daily serving size or perhaps switching to a collagen product with a larger serving size. in other words, because of the fact that people lose an increasingly higher amount of collagen as they age, you’ll probably benefit more from taking 10gr of collagen a day vs just 5gr. It makes sense on a superficial level since the more collagen you lose the more you would wanna take to replace that lost collagen, and recent research seems to confirm this.
@@Nate-ht4seYES - And I'd possibly even split that dose in to morning and evening, to be sure your body got the chance to better absorb it all.
Yea this is my hope, that it will help me with old age pain and general wellness. For me, the better skin would be just a bonus.😊
I feel like since I've started about 2 months ago my flexibility training has been a lot more forgiving. It's good for skin but what I noticed most was more joint tolerance. It has softened some of my acne scars up a little, nothing crazy but certainly better than not taking them.
I tried both collagen gummies and capsule peptides and felt like i got double the benefit overnight with peptides on an empty stomach than my body absorbed via gummies. Gummies just don't absorb as well.
@KristineK= EMPTY BOT CHANNEL
For several months I was using a supplement with 5 types of collagen. I noticed my digestion and joints were better as well as well as my skin and hair. To be fair, I was a couple of years younger. I’m not consistently using a collagen supplement right now, but my hair and nails grow really fast. I’m also post-menopausal.
Thanks for revisiting this. I do find improvement in my hair and skin although not my nails. More research is needed but so long as research reveals no adverse effect with long-term use I'll keep using it.
I really appreciate what you said about skin fragility . My dear late mum who died as a centenarian had such problems with fragile broken skin and pressure sores . It would have been great to help with that if it had been as simple as her taking a collagen drink. I have been taking collagen for my joints and since doing so my painful knee has completely cleared up. Oddly -I was only mentioning this the other day- also I no longer have such wrinkly and dry elbows and knees and I barely need to moisturise my arms and legs . I use tretinoin on my face so I couldn’t comment on any facial effects.
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How much collagen do you take per day for your joints?
If you don’t mind me asking, what kind of collagen do you take? Is it powdered or pill form? My knees have been bad and I just started a powdered form which is marine, but way too soon to tell if it is actually going to provide any benefits.
It is in a sort of gel form that I mix with water @@SB-ny1pr
My mom cared for older relatives. Skin fragility was a big deal. It was really eye-opening to me to see the changes in my elderly relatives’ skin. Nobody ever talks about it. 😢
I started adding collagen to my morning coffee several years ago primarily for my skin, but I also think it helps my joints. I used to experience stiffness from an old knee injury which has gotten much better.
Is there a certain brand you use
I read if you put it in hot water it erodes the product making it useless.
Your the best, @Drdray!!!!❤
I take 10g of collagen from the brand Vital Proteins; it has no taste and dissolves instantly into my water I drink at the gym, an easy way to get it all in. I notice my nails and hair are stronger when I take consistently, also using anti-aging products for my face so I can say if it’s helped there or if that’s the adapalene and Skinceuticals etc 💕 thanks for the informative video Dr Dray
Hey i have a question
If we are taking collagen then do we need protein supplements also
I am taking isolate protein, so if I start taking collagen I have to continue my isolate or not?
Respect for adapting your theory. I use collagen peptides everyday and biotin forte a few days per week. My hair is growing in darker, and the cracks on my heels disappeared. When I stop the supplementation, the cracks re-appear. I'm not certain what is causing improvement - probably both. Thank you for the video.
When you say Biotin Forte what do you mean?? I have seen Biotin but not Forte mentioned.
Dr. Dray, Excellent discussion. Both of my older sisters, my niece and daughter-in-law take these supplements. One concern I expressed to them is the unknown effect on their microbiome. The fact that digestive issues have occurred suggests that the supplements are adversely affecting the.bacterial communities. Have any studies examined fecal samples to specifically identify the degree to which these supplements are disrupting the balance of good and bad gut bacteria? This to me is a major issue as studies continue to show the importance of a healthy microbiome and the potential adverse effect on all of the relevant systems. I'm opposed to ingesting these types of things, especially with the risks associated with the downstream multi-level supply chains and all the things that can go on. Thanks again. I will share your video with all the ladies in my family. SoCalFreddy
Something that myself and a couple friends have noticed since taking collagen, we all are having much more regular and normal bowel movements. I’ve suffered from IBS for years, while I still have occasional bloating, it’s improved at least 80%
Me too! It’s helped my IBS since taking it!
@@Endless.embrace one scoop of vital proteins unflavored
@@Aacuna24 which brand df caollagen do u use??
Yes!! Best BMs ever!!!
Wow I have ibs thanks for sharing
I started taking collagen peptides for joint health when I was a half-marathoner. It helped a lot, and as a bonus my skin started looking great! I've continued to put a scoop in my morning coffee ever since, even though I don't run halfs anymore. But my joints and skin still feel great as I approach 50.
Do you take itbevery day no stopping it taking a break from it is it safe enough I just started. 2 days a go.
Really appreciate the amount of consideration that you put into your commentary of your videos! You are so thorough and knowledgeable, which stands out in this world of short content.
I am seventy six and have used collagen for several years and am very happy with what I see in the mirror; also do power walking and weights!
Those of us with Ehlers Danlos Syndrome would LOVE LOVE LOVE a video about our genetically faulty collagen and how to take care of our fragile skin as there are no videos on TH-cam about it. Collagen supplements are sadly unlikely to help us much as we will just produce more faulty collagen 😢
You’re the only person I truly trust when I need any advice on skin care 💕
Same
I do fell the same
I’m 45 I don’t look my age. I don’t have fine lines or crows feet. I don’t dye my hair and have no gray hair. I been taking collagen since 2015. I take Hyaluronic acid, Phytoceramides, amino acids, & polypodium leucotomos. I use tons of sunscreen and my skin care routine includes retinol. Love the skin you’re in💖
Please tell me what brands you use! I'm about to be 29 & I've been freaking out about aging & wrinkles! 😭💔😭
You do all that healthy stuff but then rub toxic suncream all over “your biggest organ”…. your porous skin……. Endocrine disrupting “forever chems “ is seriously bad for you bud.
I started taking collagen right before the pandemic and have continued since. I have had improved hair growth, nails are stronger and skin doesn’t seem to be as fragile. As for my wrinkles, I’m so critical of all my wrinkles but there does seem to be a slowing of the wrinkles but definitely not stopping. I am 72 and working or not I have been happy with results. I take the Vital Protein supplement. Thanks for your information.
This is the best well rounded video about collagen. Thank you!
This information is SO helpful. Thank you!
Micro needling also appears to improve skin firmness and collagen, and hair growth. I've been using micro needling plus collagen supplements to improve thin parts of my beard. It does appear to work because areas where my beard growth was thin have been filling in as I've used needling and collagen. Prior to this I was using rogaine. The rogaine helped a LITTLE but also dried my skin pretty harshly where applied. Needling itself has worked better and without the drying.
Been taking Collagen for about year and a half. My nails have definitely improved from being very brittle and back to the way they were in my youth. I had visible changes to my skin, a dry patch that had taken up residence on my forehead disappeared, some red marks that had become enlarged due to more lax skin contracted. As for less wrinkles etc, not sure, though probably. My reason for starting, however was a small study showing anti inflammatory properties, my joint pain, especially in my knees was significantly reduced.
What Brand do you use? Thank you
How about hair?
@@farrahesmail5825 Not sure, tbh, I've no issues with my hair, so didn't pay attention. Possibly grew a couple more inches after seeming to have reached max length - maybe.
@@KristineWahl-ft9qjHi what brand do you use ? Thanks
@@munecahermosaddios1286 Vital Proteins Marine Collagen. You need a good quality Vit-C along with it
I looove the research you present: thank you!!!
I was diagnosed with Classical Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome about 20 years ago and have been taking powdered hydrolyzed collagen peptides for about the last 6-7 years. While the supplement doesn't change the fact that my body produces defective connective tissue, I have still found substantial benefits. My skin is still fragile, but it heals much more quickly when I take the supplement consistently. Instead of a zit tearing my skin and taking 6+ months to heal from being an open wound/scab, it now takes closer to 1-2 months. My joints sound less like rice krispies or bubble wrap popping with every movement and when I have inevitable injuries, I find that I am able to recover faster. I have taken breaks from taking the supplement off and on through the years due to money or questioning if it was actually helping. I can say with certainty there a noticeable difference when I stopped the collagen, which improved after a couple months to taking the collagen again. It's not a cure all, but it has improved my quality of life.
Can you list the specific collagen supplements you're taking?
I’m sorry for what you’ve been going through.
Thought of Mel Thompson when u mentioned EDS. How she endured all those tattoos is behind me. RIP Mel.
I, too, have eds (vascular) and was wondering if we could see any sort of benefit from it. Reading your comment encourages me to give it a whirl! The idea that my knees won't sound quite so crunchy is what got me ❤
I have vascular ehlers danlos... I need to start taking this stuff because I have multiple aneurysms. I'm only 26 and I've almost died many times from this dumbass illness.
Love love this video. Thank you for the update on collagen. ❤
Thanks for watching!
Valuable information. Thank you Dr. Dray. I am 61 and have been considering starting collagen supplements and even bought some from Costco. I’ll do a ninety day test and see if there are any improvements to my skin. 😊
I have seen a huge improvement in hair loss. I am 52 and have been taking collagen for about 6 months now. It's bovine, 5000 mg. I am switching to marine, however, because I no longer consume beef or pork. Love your videos!
Beef isn’t your enemy sugar is. Watch Dr Ken Berry
Thanks for sharing dosage!!
The collagen is from the skin of bovine not the muscle (beef).
Beef is more bioavailable than marine
@@peterkropotkin1158Chemically the same molecule. I'm sure beef makes your feelings happier though. 😊
As a former nurse I have wondered about how this might be helpful for diabetics with compromised healing. I saw so many terrible slow healing wounds and ulcers etc and think it could have contributions to make to tissue viability.
I love that you do the research for us. Thank you doctor!
I’ve also been taking collagen for four years and I’m well into my 40’s. I’ve noticed significant improvement in joints, skin, hair and nails! I’m very active with work, weight training and running.
Can you tell me what brand you use? Tia!
@@kylemollgren1118 I use vital proteins collagen peptides (blue container) sobrina :)
Hello Dr. Dray, thank you for covering this topic. I was very skeptical with taking collagen supplements for so long, as I very much assumed, any peptides you took would basically break into the amino acids and would be used in the body as any other amino acids, based on priority. I am a vet plus a clinical research professional, so I need to be skeptical. However, after reading some reliable sources, I decided to take the leap. I am taking Vital Proteins Bovine Collagen 10 grams with my coffee every morning and Solgar hyaluronic acid collagen complex tablet every day. I cannot speak to my nail or hair for sure, but I have had improvements in some joint pains that I had. One was due to mouse-use on my right index finger, the other was on my right hip joint due to my seating arrangement for home office work, one other was for a healing toe joint which I had hurt in July 2021. I felt a great improvement in all three of these joint issues. For skin, hair or nails, İ cannot comment, because I am also using certain skincare products and have always been a huge water drinker. Plus, to see improvement in hair and nails, we need to wait until the regrowth replaces most of what we have, so it does take a while to test out the strength. Growth speed is another story, I have not experienced anything speeding up, at least in the 4 months that I have been taking the supplements. But then again, the stuff could be going to higher-priority sites instead of hair and nails, so no complaints there. And yes, I do know there are different kinds of collagen for different kinds of functions, which is why I am taking 1-2-3 from different brands.
Hey vet! 😊 Could you name some of the brands you buy the collagen supliments from (and also name it's function). Thanks in advance! 🤗
@@cristinabianca6958 I don't know if you received my message (one minute ago) because some channels eliminate links. So, I'm resending my message, but this time just with the reference, not the full link. I don't understand why some people do not reply to help others. I just started with a foot pain. I'm researching to improve it without medicine. There are different types of collagen (from to 5). type II (2) from chicken is more appropriate for elastic cartilage, which provides joint support. Look for the study at google. I key the question: "Types of collagen", I selected the one from clevelandclinic. 1st. learned about the types viewing comments at Amazon under chicken collagen.
Dear Dr D. Love your videos and education we get out of this for free. Would you do a video about plantar warts and what can be done, if liquid nitrogen treatments over months don't help... As it comes back. I live at the moment in a very humid climate in South East Asia
Thank you for the video on this subject! I started taking Vital Proteins (just the first one I noticed and tried) in February, to see if it would help with my brittle nails and hair loss. I'm 56, and both my GP and my dermatologist just sort of shrugged off these things as part of post-menopause/aging/genetics. Since starting to take it, I have noticed a difference in the hair loss. It has slowed it and I have noticed that areas where my scalp was starting to be more visible seem to be filling in some. If I forget to take it for several days, I notice an increase in hair fall. I think it has helped with my nails too. I have not noticed my hair or nails growing more quickly. I also had not really equated any changes in my skin with it, since my skin generally looks better in the warmer, more humid months in Texas; but maybe it is helping with that too.
I take the same brand as yours, just a couple of days ago. I can't tell the result at the moment, but it makes my yogurt more delicious lol and, provides me energy to do my fitness effectively.
I started taking collagen peptides in my coffee years ago, mostly for joint pain. I have noticed improvements in my joint health and my overall skin health in regards to firmness and elasticity. It also seems to improve my scalp and hair health. I have not noticed benefits in my nail growth or overall nail health. I will continue to use it as it has really changed the way I feel with my joints, but I think the beauty improvements may be negligible in terms of results I could get using topical skincare or haircare.
Which brand do you use?
Thank you for such a thorough explanation of all these studies!
Thank you. It's great that you covered the impact on hair (it's not made of collagen!). I read many product reviews stating improved hair thickness a few days after taking collagen. Supplements are expensive, but I am going to give it three months. Fingers crossed for improvements.
It will doesn't work.
I have been taking vital proteins or boost collagen for almost two years (except for a 3 month break, see below. ) I was skeptical but also interested because I am now over 70 and was noticing first of all more brittle nails than I was used to, hair thinning at my temples and part---enough so that I started changing my hair style (my family has plentiful thick hair as the hair stylist at my niece's wedding noticed--even my mother in her 90s has a lot of hair, so while this was a change I noticed, to it was not a cosmetic crisis). And my skin was, of course, also showing changes. Over the past two years of working from home, I had used the time saved not commuting, to focus on health by improving my diet and my exercise. I lost a considerable amount of weight and still have a little more to lose to be at a healthy weight. I am interested in anything i can do to encourage skin elasticity after weight loss. All that said, I find that collagen supplements in my morning drink left me feeling more full, which was a plus and provided my body with useful building blocks. The first thing I noticed after close to a year was that my nails stopped breaking. I am fairly convinced that resulted from collagen. Skeptic that I am, I took a break from collagen for a few months and, in fact, nails got worse, and then improved several months after restarting collagen. I think that is a causal event. I also think (in addition to tretinoin and spf) it has helped with skin elasticity. This took much longer to see than the nail improvement. It may be beginning to help me with my hair too, but it will take longer for me to be convinced on that. I have slowly become a believer, but think it is important to use good brands. Costco has the best price on Vital Proteins collagen than I have found elsewhere, although at be least to sample it, iherb.com has smaller sizes of Vital Proteins if you want to sample it for a month before coming to a Costco sized tub.
Thank you for the update!
Did you notice any difference in joints pain knee if u have that issue?? I am only 51 and I am having knee pain already 😢
@@taniad2873 yes. It definitely helps my joints. Naturemade SAMe (good price at Costco in US, helps even more, but collagen plus SAMe has really been great
@@sjkcmd thank u
I just started collagen supplement last year after I was diagnosed with arthritis in my left knee the year before that. I have to say since taking collagen my knee has been much better. Still get some pain but not as strong or as often. Just so you know, I am a total skeptic. I try everything with the mind set of “yeah sure” so for me to see a difference is saying something.
@sandrawitkowski7116 Which brand do you use and how much do you take daily? Thanks.
Thank you!! Great info and first time hearing numbers related to collagen from Broth, so thank you for research and sharing this! 🙌🏼
I was taking 1000mg of marine hydrolysed protein in a ready made drink formula. After about 3 months I noticed that the dry skin on my arms and legs had gone and my facial skin had more bounce and more of a glow. More interestingly though, my hairdresser, who I have been seeing every 3 months for the past 10 years, commented that I had a lot of new hair growth. When I asked if she was sure that it was growth and not breakage, she said it was definitely new growth. I also noticed an improvement in joint pain and general well being. Bit it did take 3 months of daily use and it was expensive to the point where I changed to a cheaper supplement. I didn’t feel that this was as effective even as a maintenance product. I also find that the solid collagen supplements in the capsules give me very heartburn. This is true of all capsules though so clearly it is whatever the capsule is made from rather than what is in the capsule. I’d go back on the collagen drink if I could justify the expense. I am currently trying out another collagen ‘drink’ which is a thick liquid that you can either take on its own like a shot (drink not injection) or can be mixed with water or smoothies etc. I just drink it as it is and it is not at all unpleasant. Time will tell if it is as good.
I started taking Vital Proteins Collagen Peptides with Hyaluronic Acid_Vitamin C since Nov 2022. I have very thin hair. I noticed in January it seemed thicker when I was washing it in the shower. I went to my hair stylist in Mar and she said there is definiately a difference, thicker. I love it!
I take verisol collagen (sparkle wellness brand). I have also taken vital proteins regular collagen. The verisol has some good studies behind it too. I’m post menopause. I definitely notice a difference in my skin.
I agree, I only take verisol collagen. I’ve noticed a difference as well.
I use collegan peptide for my knee pain. It really works for my joints.
Thank you for a very informative episode.
I've been taking 20g of Vital Proteins a day from bovines for about 8 months. It includes 80mg of Hyaluronic Acid and 90mg Vitamin C.
I saw a line on my nails where there was a distinct difference between old and new growth. The old growth was slightly darker red than the new growth.
Whether this is related to the collagen or just a coincidence, I don't know. But the new growth does not have any dark lines or spots.
I have not really seen any reduction to skin repairs in my legs. I have some scratches on my knees that resulted by a fall while running. I blame my dog, he zigged when he should've zagged. They have turned almost purple and it's been at least 8 months or longer since I fell.
I can't speak much to joint health. I have a torn or nonexistent Meniscus. But I can say that my joints don't ache as much but this could be exercise or some other factor.
FYI, I'm 61...
I had a serious puncture wound on my leg and the dermatologist told me that the skin on the lower leg was the slowest skin on the body to heal.
I really think we are all individual and the results take very different times to “heal”. I was silly when started and expected signs of improvements to show by a months time. Silly me. So I’m going to give it a 1 yr trial. We are an impatient people.
Hi Dr Dray. Thank you for the good info. Is the same to take tablets or powder? Thank you!
Thank you for this information, I needed to know this! 🥰
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Dray, thanks for another great video! In the past, you did a video about quality control which was highly informative. I was wondering if you could do one about the methods used to test things like the absorption into the skin and possibly the bloodstream of skincare products. I thought about this when you mentioned the echogenicity of the skin. I think this might help use know what to look for when bogus claims are made.
Yes! I would love having a better understanding of how that type of testing is done!
I second this!
So glad you did this video. I have taken collagen for years for joint issues, it helps. I stopped taking it about 3-4 weeks ago, what a mistake. My nails all broke...every one and there was such an increase of hangnails. I didn't even think it had anything to do with the collagen.
I've taken collagen supplements on and off for a couple years and definitely can tell the difference. The powder form has the most noticeable effect, though the pills are better than nothing. I would do it more regularly if only the pills worked as well. I don't really like the powder form. But the effects keep me coming back. I'm mid 50s and it shows a difference in skin suppleness and nails not breaking as easily.
I use ampollas, so it s one dose liquid form. I don't like to mess with the dust too
Every collagen supplement I’ve tried wreaks havoc on my stomach EVERY SINGLE TIME!
I wish someone would make a better capsular form of it vs a powder.
Great information and super presentation! Thank you so much.
This is the topic I have been waiting for you to talk about. Thank you. ❤
Hi Dr. Dray, thank you so much for your infos. Is there a good collagen for vegans?
So I used collagen protein as my main protein source for maybe 6-7 years and eventually it seems to have lead to debilitating migraines that increased gradually over a few years until I was getting migraines multiple times per week. As a complete and desperate fluke, I did an elimination diet and my migraines resolved almost immediately. As I was adding foods back in, it was extremely clear that the collagen was causing the migraines. Since then I’ve eliminated it completely and even avoid gelatin (including in medication capsule).
Now, I think I may have some more oddities in my system than the average person (I have autism and we tend to have a number of weird health issues), but I hope there is some research about possible connections with migraines and collagen supplementation. Granted I think I was using way too much, but I messed myself all the way up with it.
Thanks doc. I’ve just begun.
Great video, lots of useful information on the subject. Thank you!
I have taken collagen supplements for the last 4 years. My skin is good...but it is almost impossible to be objective about results since I do many things to protect my skin. I would think this is so for the vast majority of users. If you are motivated to supplement with collagen....then almost certainly you use good skin care - sunscreen etc. Having said all that I will carry on!
I just started Vital Proteins 2 weeks ago after watching a review on TH-cam. He used for 6 months and had improved joint health as a runner. So I started right away. I don’t run but have knee and back pain. If I get skin/hair/nail results that’ll be an added bonus. I need the joint health benefits ❤
Huge difference in my knee pain after using for 1 year!
Thanks for your analysis
I started taking collagen a few weeks ago. Having skin bruising on my forearms from high dose Prednisone a few months ago. My skin has regained thickness but still having bruising. (Sure better than the skin tearing I was experiencing. Seemed like my skin would tear if I breathed on it too hard.) Primary also has me taking glycine. After another of your videos, I ordered hyaluronic acid this morning.
I'm not particularly vain but this is embarrassing for me. Besides, I am a corrections nurse and being seen as having some weakness doesn't go over well in that environment.
I do also have ulcerative colitis, so I have difficulty absorbing certain nutrients. I was in a major flare, which led to the Prednisone. Been a nurse for 28 years and my CRP was the highest I had ever seen for anyone.
I did see improvement on my c-sect scar of nearly 30 years now. Up until I started last year, I noticed my scar keloid healing which I thought would never improve. I have also recently added a hyaluronic acid & ceramide electrolyte as an added supplement for hydration as I still tend to have very dry skin esp during winter along with an oil based body wash, so I think the combination has helped tremendously also.
A few years ago I took the very supplement pictured in your thumbnail and it was one of the worst experiences I've ever had. My face broke out like CRAZY. I've always been prone to acne but this was on another level. And it was awful cystic acne all over my face. Cost me a lot of money in IPL treatments to get rid of it. My dermatologist said he has heard of this happening before. I researched it online and apparently this has happened to a lot of people. I'd beware of this product for people who are acne prone. I feel it's my duty to warn people about this.
I'm highly acne prone. I've been taking VP collagen powder for over a year and I haven't had any problems. However, I only take 1 scoop a day or 1 scoop in the morning and 1 in the evening. I read that you are more inclined to get acne if you take 2 scoops at the same time.
@@defyned I take a level scoop once a day, too. With a tonic of apple cider vinegar, turmeric and grated ginger. Half a jelly jar a night.
It’s very true. After a few months of taking powder peptide collagen stubborn cystic acne appeared on the jaw and neck area. It settled down after stopping it. However marine collagen seems harsher on the stomach but no side effect as acne.
Collagen definitely have some benefits but unpleasant side effects too.
Thanks so much! I've been looking into taking it. Your perspective is so appreciated!
I’ve been on Vital Proteins brand collagen for 4-5 months. I have noticed a little more mobility probably because of the hyaluronic acid in their brand. As far as skin elasticity I haven’t noticed anything yet but my facial hair & nails are growing twice as fast.
@Brandon68plus1 How much amount do you take per day?
I take marine collagen peptides specifically for joint health since I deal with painful joints and it really helps. Any beauty & skin benefits are a huge welcome bonus. It's nice to know that more studies are being done and are showing positive results. 💙
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Same. I noticed that cow protein didn't work as well on my joints. Don't know why. Wish it did bc it's cheaper.
I used marine collagen for a while. Mainly in hopes of improving nail strength. At that time, I remember my mother (RIP) mentioning that my skin looked really good. Wish I'd kept using it. 😑
Which brand do you use? I've been looking for recommendations specifically for marine collagen. 😊
I too am interested in collagen for joints (esp hips) for running. I have not started taking them yet.
I was VERY reluctant to take collagen orally. I started (around 3 months ago) to see if my skin would heal better after TCA chemical peels and, in general, as anti-wrinkle support. I'm 46, so I need extra collagen to compensate for not producing as much as I did when younger.
So far I've noticed: 1) Joint improvement. I had a constant ticking sound on my knee when bending, and after a few weeks, it's completely gone, and my knee also feels more flexible.
2) The healing process after my chemical peels is getting faster (1/2 days faster, I would say, considering that I do them regularly and know my skin healing times quite well).
3) As for the overall aging process of the skin, I can't tell for a few reasons:
I take many supplements already (Ubiquinol and others) and I have also used tretinoin since when I was in my 20s and apply sunscreen constantly so my skin, despite my age doesn't have visible wrinkles yet. When I smile or move my face, I have dynamic wrinkles, but they still don't leave any sign. I think I will keep taking it for the benefits I got in these areas, hoping for the best also for my skin.
Oh almost forgot, I didn't notice anything particular about my hair growth because even though I have androgenetic alopecia, my hair grows at a super fast rate anyways, so I can't truly tell.
I have aga how do u keep urs under control if u dont mind me asking? I use dht blocking shampoo and rosemary which helps
How many grams of collagen are you or did you take? Also was it marine or bovine?
Thankful for this, my dad is 70 and now bruises very easily. Sharing this video with him!
Thank you so much for your updates so we know what are the best actions that we should take.
I’ve been taking the vital proteins almost daily for at least two years. I haven’t noticed much in my skin, but the other day, I noticed that my teeth were less “transparent.” I was given multiple rounds of antibiotics as a child and it discolored my teeth. I know that sounds crazy, but my teeth look more solid and I’m kind of thinking it might be the collagen supplement.
I used to have a very visible vertical line on my front lower tooth and now it has gone ...
Thank you so much for reading through the research and distilling it for us! As someone who loves bone broth, kind of surprised and disappointed to see that it's not as helpful as supplementation but that's really useful to know! Goes against my common assumption that you can get the same or better benefits from eating a food vs taking a supplement. Thanks for all your awesome, free content, Dr. Dray!
Bone broth is good for your gut, so continue drinking it.
I make bone broth, too.
No one ever gained any financial benefits by concluding that natural collagen from bone broth etc is way more beneficial. Keep that in mind.
@@nk9458not everything is a conspiracy. Touch grass.
I remember watching your video 4 years ago wondering about an update and here we are 😍❤️
Thanks for the update Dr. Dray. I use the Vital Proteins Professional line. Not the same as the standard one that's been on the market for some time. Vitamin C as I understand it has been shown to improve absorption, so that might be why we see it in the product. Have a great day.
whats the difference between this type & 'standard' types? Many thanks.
I'm 39 M and ave been taking collagen for about a year, primarily for preventative measures. But about 6 months in I went to clip my finger nails and found that they were much stronger, and I've noticed that I've had to move haircuts from 4-6 week intervals to 3-4 week intervals because it is just growing faster. Also, 9-12 months in I was looking in the mirror and realized that I didn't see the fine lines around my eyes that I used to see.
im 37 hmm thinkin to start soon. i hv cracked heels. i used to take bovine collagen three years ago. that lasted for 3 months. no improvement on my cracked heels. so i guess the bovine collagen was a fake one. what do i do now? i mean why and what it took so long js to repair my cracked heels. or shall i wait a lil longer?
What brand are you using? Please let us know.
I would like to see studies where one group takes collagen and the other extra protein and see if the results that people are getting from collagen is merely to do with higher protein intake.
Happy Thursday! Thank you for sharing! Very interesting topic!
Happy Thursday
I am using verisol collagen now for 2 months, and I am quite happy to see goed results. I am pos menopause ,56 y and I use bio identic hormones but still I had some loose skin in my jows .I notice that the collagen was even better when I did micronidellind,no more lose skin.
As a runner, I can tell a difference in my joints (specific knees) when I have been consistently taking my collagen. Less pain and clicking. As far as skin benefits I have not necessarily noticed a difference, but I am in my 20’s.
I’m 29 and was introduced to collagen powders at a festival with my mom like 7 or so years ago. I was so skeptical because in my mind I thought “wouldn’t the collagen just break down into nothing in your stomach acid?” I asked the person manning the booth that and they couldn’t explain so I wrote it off. Now that collagen supplements are more popular and widely available, learning more about it has changed my mind. I’m going to be grabbing some soon. I’d like to start now before the middle of my life to see how it helps me as I age (not just my skin but my joints and mobility like so many others are talking about). Thanks Dr. Dray and everyone in the comments for your anecdotes!
I’m 28 and just started taking it myself- I’m with ya and I wish you the best!🎉
Have you noticed any improvements?
Look, it's always difficult to really pinpoint the source of skin improvements when you're on a skin care journey...I'm 43, I've been on tretinoin for 4 years, vitamin C for a year, diligent at sunscreen and my skin looks pretty good for my age (if I say so myself 😉) BUT, for the past 3 weeks, my skin has had a glow that I hadn't seen since I was in my early 30s... and I have been taking hydrolyzed collagen since November. I can't categorically say that it's the collagen that did it, but one thing is for sure, I'm going to carry on taking it!!
Yay! because I have felt like I had much stronger nails since using but I am not a consistent user!
I'd love to know more about vegan collagen - most of the commercial options are collagen "boosters" rather than true vegan collagen. Thanks for always keeping us up to date!
Collagen is only produced by animals and not by plants. So I’m not sure it’s even possible to make a vegan version
They don't work
There are NO vegan collagen . It all comes from an animal as plants don’t have collagen. Hope this helps.
@@RubyJane6904 it doesn't, my comment already demonstrated that I know they are boosters not actual collagen. However I've since found a 2019 study which demonstrates that the plant based boosters are actually more effective than straight animal collagen.
Works over taking it long term
I've been taking it a few weeks and I've noticed I'm not as stiff in the morning or late evening (45/f/average activity level). I've been told in the past to up my protein intake so I figure this probably helps with that as well in conjunction with incorporating more protein in food.
Same here! I had pain in my legs and knees in the morning and evening but after taking multi protein collagen powder for less than a month, the aches in my legs is practically gone!!!!!!!!
@Kathleen Pignatari great! I know I'm also feeling like a spring chicken now! 😂🤣
Thankyou for doing an update!!
I have been taking the collagen peptides for over a year and I have seen a major improvement in my skin and joints in that time frame. I am 69 years old and wish I had started taking this many years ago.