Lumix S5, best AF settings : 1) Camera Settings' Tuning (according to the review) AF Speed: -5 to -2 (or lower than 0) AF Sensitivity: +3 2) Panasonic lens AF performance > Sigma 3) Higher the contrast on the screen, the better the AF performance (like better AF using standard profile compared to V-Log) 4) Higher frame rate means better AF performance 5) Lower resolution (full HD) AF > 4K UHD 6) AF performance is better when using the camera LCD as compared to an external monitor Let's add more info if anyone else has it or maybe put the above in order.
I like this pin of how to get to your particular settings. Excellent video as always and hopefully we can catch up soon. Went through some low moments when COVID-19 became the new norm but feeling much better now. Thank you always for everything that you do.
Hey Rico, probably but we can't assume everyone knows that. There are a lot of people who will just be getting into video and photography and they will think every lens will work just as well as another so it's best to let them know.
@@StoryDrivenFilmmaking watched the whole video a minute ago. You did do an amazing job showcasing the autofocus. Personally I'm not quite sure what to think. I use a Panasonic GH5 and it's driving me nuts. Bought a Sony A6400 as a B cam to replace my G85 (love that thing though) and gradually move from Panasonic to Sony. The colors of the Panasonic are so incredibly nice in comparison to Sony, but the autofocus man... When it's pulsing, it's because it's trying to keep you in focus and does a good job but it is very distracting. There's one thing I'd like you to test out which I've missed in this video. What were the apertures? Having 3.5 or up will create less pulsing than lets say 1.7 or 2.8. I'm real curious to see the performance with similar and different f stops.
Lovely video mate. I love the hustle..I loveeee that you took the time to get to know your camera and test the hell out of it to find the best way to make it work great, unlike the other youtubers that are just like "ohh AF sucks out of the box, camera bad... " Will save this video to watch again over and over as im getting this camera soon!
This is a good video, its not overly obnoxious self promotion bullshit, it reminds me of early YT videos from professionals, talking about a problem, then give us a solution to those very problems and structuring it into a nice story with good video footage thats not overly over the top and out of place. I love it, why you only have 4k subs, TH-cam algorithm aint fair thats for sure.
Refreshing to see someone actually learn the camera and use it for more than one day before writing it off. It will work, it’s just canon and Sony are sooo good now that you basically never change any autofocus modes again and there’s nothing to learn. Cmon Panasonic your cameras are soooooo good, just give us PD autofocus even if it’s mostly for positive press/reviews. You really need those to gain traction while people are still transitioning to mirrorless.
Hi Danny, thank you. I totally agree, the S5 autofocus (with the settings I mentioned in this vid) has worked well for me, its just not as perfect as Canon and Sony's autofocus (Even Nikon has great auto-focus now!). I truly believe if Panasonic would have went with Dual Pixel auto-focus with the GH5 they would have been on top of the camera game! At this point I don't think they will leave their Contrast based system (I hope I am wrong though).
This is the first time, where Panasonic has a good Autofocus with a bit settings trimming. Its not as good as the Sony or Canon Autofocus, but a lot better than the old ones like in the GH5.
yea but at this point they just cripple themselves. They have no reason to keep this crappy autofocus system especially for the full frame line and with the autofocus being the one thing their customer base asks them to change. They simply don't listen.
There are Autofocus issues Because Panasonic gets their sensors from Sony. And they are the only company that takes Sony's sensors and beat them over the head with it. Sony knows this and will not sell the PDAF sensors to Panasonic. Do some research and you will know why. Sony fears the competition and bottlenecks them. This is why I will never buy another Sony product. If this kind of immature crap carries on, we will see the camera market disappear altogether. PS I own an S5 and the AF quality is damn good on that thing. This is from a G85, Gh4, G9 and GH5 user
Thats not true, because Nikon has PDAF sensors and Nikon has better autofocus than Sony does, although Nikon video specs are an afterthought, not that I blame them but thats gonna hurt their sales.
You sir are godsend. Thank you so much for this. I just bought my s5 for travel where I will be using a good amount of AF. Thank you for all the time you've spent on this. Can't wait to watch more of your videos.
Bro this is one hell of a video! I had to pause it and give you your praise. For one, I just upgraded to the S5 from my G7 and had the same exact thoughts before purchasing. Moving up to full frame and not having great auto focus was such a compromise. But I love everything else about Panasonic. I've been making due with it so far, but these settings you demonstrated beat mines by a mile! Ironically, I'm shooting a bts mini branding session for a local photographer soon too. I'm not given the algorithm any credit here, this was straight from Baby Jesus! lol
🤣🤣 "Straight from baby Jesus". Listen, now that's it's been a few weeks since I made this video I now swear by these settings. In my latest video where "filming my first music video" I used the S5 to film that whole skit at the beginning of that vid (4k 24p). I stayed in focus the whole time.
@@ahsanjawed3406 a huge difference! The eye auto focus, human/animal face detection, less focus breathing, and overall speed of focusing between subjects are all reasons the S5 is better. Granted your mileage will vary depending on your lens selection and settings, but the S5 is in a whole different league compared to the G7.
@@ahsanjawed3406 it's funny you should ask that, I'm actually purchasing the Sigma 24-70 soon lol. From my research, the native Panasonic 24-70 will be slightly better. That's to be expected, but the difference is not worth the price. The money I will save getting the Sigma, I will put towards filters and other accessories lol.
I literally have never seen better product reviews than what you produce bro! In any genre. My hat is off to you once again. My S5 constantly breathes and loses focus during my vlogs. It’s literally the ONLY complaint I have with this camera. But it’s a HUGE one. Glad your results have been better. I’ll try the +3 and see if it helps. Lumix lenses are better for sure. I’ve noticed Sigmas are tougher.
So happy to see someone don't just BS about the Panasonic AF but actually try to understand how to make it work and setup it. Instead to complain about it. I have the S1 and I got a really excellent result with the Af but I mostly do photo. But thank you for the advise about how to get rid of the pulsing will try that, it was the only thing I didn't like on the Panasonic when shooting video with AF and sadly it goes with how to work the DFD so I don't know how Panasonic will fix that. One little detail I don't see many talks about is about the Sigma lens. Don't buy the HSM lens, they are dlsr ( with kind of inbuild adaptor) and they have a horrible AF result on the Panasonic. If you go Sigma take only the DN models ( true mirrorless). But the truth is the Panasonic lens will always give a better AF result than sigma.
Hi Nicolas, I am glad you enjoyed the video. And I do agree, I would prefer to focus on the solution and not the problem. And while the S line of cameras autofocus is far from perfect it will work pretty well depending on how you are using it. Hopefully in 2021 Panasonic will move to a new auto-focus system (not holding my breath though).
Yo Nicholas! Im looking to get the Sigma 24-70mm for the S5. Assuming you've had experience with Sigmas and S series? How manageable is the AF system and how far off is the performance from the Panasonic lens? Thanks!
@@ahsanjawed3406 Sadly i don't have any experience with the Sigma or the Panasonic 24-70mm. But from my experience with the Sigma 85mm DG DN and the 105mm DG DN, I would say stick with Panasonic lens. For photo the AF on Sigma L mount is managable ( but really not great), while in video the 85mm is unusable if your subject move more than a cm or two. In other hand the AF on Panasonic lens i have ( 24-105, 70-200) work like a dream.
Great Tip for the proper Auto Focusing set up for Lumix S5. I subed instantly after I watched this video. Thank you for your really practical and informative video.
Great video. You might increase the performance of the autofocus a little more stopping down the lens. I can confirm that autofocus speed setting is a big factor on the s1 too
I love the honesty and effort you put in this quest for perfection. Or at least for what this S5 can achieve the best it can. Thanks a lot for this introspection. The result will for sure help me for my TH-cam video setting with my S1.
I read that it is because the dfd autofocus is so much based on pure processing power that, when an external recorder is connected, the af gets worse because the processor now needs to handle two tasks: 1. autofocussing and 2. Sending/compressing/whatever the image out to the recorder which takes away processing power for the autofocus
Super helpful video! Entertaining and informative :) I'm also looking at the S5, coming from a G9, whose autofocus has never been particularly bad for any of my needs.
Damn bro well done on this!! I started my hybrid shooting journey with the GH4 and G7 them G85...and micro 4/3 did wonders for me. But after my photography style changed amd I began shooting much more headshots I switched to film frame and gel in love with the depth using the Sony A73 amd then the EOS R for the past 18 months, I also shoot my family with Fujifilm on the weekends...but Ive come to really miss the LUMIX experience. So I’m considering the S5 along with the R6 now. I’m glad to hear of your experience with it!! Thanks, Adam
I used to shoot with a pentax k3...and everyone complained about the AF. I hope Panasonic's is better, I'm waiting for the UPS truck to arrive with my new S5😊😊😊
Another Thomas gem! Your stuff is so well shot and narrated, one of the best on TH-cam. Interesting that the 1080 yielded the best results. The autofocus on my GH5 caused me to just manual focus all the time, which is ok for a lot of wildlife stuff I used to shoot. But, I'm getting the Sony 70-350mm for my a6400 this Christmas to hopefully get birds in flight or bees, etc. which is blind luck with my GH5, lol. I envy that S5, yummy images. Good one, Thomas!
Hi Randy, Thx! I am glad you are doing well. I can't wait to see what you can do with that 70-350mm! Yeah the AF on the GH5 is not its strongest feature lol.
I'm loving it! Have only done client photos so far but I am doing my first video on Monday and I'm trying to dial in the AF settings. I am shooting flat and RAW which seems to help with the contrast based AF issue, rather than shooting in log. Really appreciate your experiments with the sensitivity/speed settings in this video! It's a huge help.
Before I say anything, well done for click baiting me in with the negative title! 👏🏾🍾 Great Video. Been on the hunt for the best AF settings for the s5 since I got if a couple days ago. This video helped a tonne!
Haha, you know it's funny I never do clickbait titles but I thought that title fit since so many people feel that way. Oh, and congrats on your new S5!
Well Thomas, I’ve just traded in a GH5 and two lenses to up grade to the S5 and the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 lens. Will have to wait for a week or so for it to arrive, but looking forward to it joining my other GH5 and GH5’s.
Hey Gary, that's awesome. As a GH5 owner I really like the S5. I think your going to love it. I actually just sold my GH5S as I didnt think there was a reason to have 2 GH5's, 1 GH5S, and the S5. Since I had the GH5S for its low light capabilities and the S5 now fills that spot for me.
As an S5 user (photo) I appreciate the way you're testing the auto focus customization. I believe that most of the reviewer's that looked at this camera never dug deep enough into this menu and just stamped this camera as sub-par autofocus. Thank you for the insights!
@@StoryDrivenFilmmaking Hi Thomas, Not sure if you're into photography as well but I'd love some vids on deeper dives into photo autofocus settings. I've been messing around with the 6k photo and live composite modes which have opened up some new creative possibilities for me. This camera has so many different functions, as a new Lumix user (came from sony) I've got a long way to go! All the best Also really great tip for the S5 is when in the menu system and you're not sure what something does, while its selected hit the disp. button and a box will pop that explains what it does.
I don't do offer any photography services for clients but I do post quite a lot of pics on IG using the S5 and GH5 (@creatorswithvision). I've use the high resolution pic mode on the S5 for lots of images on my IG. That's a great tip regarding hitting the display button. Thanks!
At 8.20 for example, is not really acrive the tracking. For confirm face you must click in the square/face and appear a middle line at half of every side of the the square. So is active face tracking.
When you shot the model @ 9:28 was your F stop low since it was in low light? Since u compared it to you walking in Day light if ur f stop was high the autofocus would work better
Hi. Yes, my F stop was higher for the shots in my backyard. However, I was shooting at the same F stop for the model that I was for the shoot I did at the 5:51 mark (f3.5). I actually just shot my first wedding with the S5 on December 31st and I can confirm that the auto-focus works better with the speed set to -1 or -2. For the wedding I kept my AF speed at -2 and for the aisle shots the autofocus worked pretty well. I haven't gotten a chance to dump all of the footage yet but I am pretty confident in the settings I gave in this video after using them on this wedding.
Unfortunately I haven't gotten to test out the 5.6k at all. I have a few shoots mid January where I want to test out the RAW features as well. The only downside to filming in RAW though is that I have to use Final Cut to edit the footage (I use Resolve).
Great video. I have a question though. I do wedding videography using canons, and for several reasons I'm looking to switch. I shoot most of the wedding on a gimball, with fluid movement and let the autofocus do most of the work. Do you think this camera's autofocus would hold up in those circumstances? Especially in the darker reception venues?
Hi McKay, the short answer is no. The problem with the S5 is when objects move toward the camera or away from it. If you want to get gimbal shots like that then your results will not be consistent. However for interviews or shots where you will be keeping the camera locked down I have not had a problem with the autofocus.
@@StoryDrivenFilmmaking thanks for the intelligent and well thought out video! This is exactly what I needed to know. Really like the S5 but I'm also a gimbal guy. Just subscribed, looking forward to watching more of your videos!
Great video mate 👍i still haven't had the courage to use auto focus on the s5, i came from shooting video with the gh5 and got used to shoot in manual focus, but now might have it a go some time.
Mate have you ever tried taking photos of your pets? Any way to make the S5 focus on the eyed? Most of the time my shots focused on other things like the nose, it's frustrating.
Solid man. Just maybe overlay settings and explain mode such as full frame, crop etc. Wanted to edit to say you have a great personality on camera, bro solid video. Subbed
Hey Keshav, I have something better for you. Download an app called shazam. It's a music discovery app. Basically you can play a song and the app will tell you the exact song that is playing. I also use this app if there is a song that I want to use in a video I watch. That way you never have to ask a TH-camr what song is that again. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the video!
What a fun video to watch. Everything looks good! I've been thinking about getting a Panasonic to start with but not so sure now! I need something with good af
Great video, thanks for the settings ideas! Have to test more but it also seems like putting a LUT preview display over V-log also seems to help the camera pick up focus a bit better in regards to increased contrast. Might be the equivalent of using a standard profile but with the advantage of V-log
@@StoryDrivenFilmmaking You’re welcome! Not clear if it’s in the path of the autofocus or just displayed but my face detect testing seemed a bit faster with the monitor LUT though YMMV
Thank you for the video. I want to buy this camera more for photography (I love Panasonic colors) but I want to be able to use video auto focus if I have to. Moving from Fuji. Thanks for the content.
Hi George, thank you! I really like the 20-60mm I just shot a little mini-doc in D.C this week and I use the 20-60mm and the sigma 35mm exclusively for the shoot. I like the 20-60mm because out of all of the L-mount lenses that I currently own for the S5, the AF works the best with the 20-60mm.
great greate video BUT just be careful with the audio leveling. music kicks in, i turn it down, voice over kicks in, i have to turn it up... i need new batteries in the remote
Wow. Your channel needs more subscribers and this video - more views. (New subscriber here too. 🙂) I love your videography style, and this video is so helpful. I love the S5 so much, especially for the stabilization, but I just can’t invest in something that has such bad autofocus. That’s one of the most important features in any camera IMO. (Crazy that it’s so unreliable.)Thank you so much for this video!
Hi Angela, thanks for checking out my video! I also love the S5. I wish I could say it was perfect but it’s definitely not. I definitely manual focus most of the time.
The thing with Panasonic AF is that it is mostly contrast based. Shooting in VLog, you have little to no contrast. It might be better to shoot in HLG which provides more contrast for the AF system and still gives you some dynamic range to work with in post. Here is a video I found that shows some helpful techniques in improving AF with the S5: th-cam.com/video/apyAzQ0w7MI/w-d-xo.html
Hey Thomas great explanation of the S5 AF. I have an opportunity to purchase a used S1 with a 24-105 Panasonic lens or purchase a new S5 with the kit lens. Both are roughly the same price $2,300. What is the best option? Pros and Cons.
This needs way more views. Thanks for the hands-on real world performance review!
This is the first video I’ve seen that talks about solutions not just problems with S5’s AF. Really love it. Thanks!
Lumix S5, best AF settings :
1) Camera Settings' Tuning (according to the review)
AF Speed: -5 to -2 (or lower than 0)
AF Sensitivity: +3
2) Panasonic lens AF performance > Sigma
3) Higher the contrast on the screen, the better the AF performance (like better AF using standard profile compared to V-Log)
4) Higher frame rate means better AF performance
5) Lower resolution (full HD) AF > 4K UHD
6) AF performance is better when using the camera LCD as compared to an external monitor
Let's add more info if anyone else has it or maybe put the above in order.
I like this pin of how to get to your particular settings. Excellent video as always and hopefully we can catch up soon. Went through some low moments when COVID-19 became the new norm but feeling much better now. Thank you always for everything that you do.
Isn't this just like other cameras all depending on the lens you're shooting with?
Hey Rico, probably but we can't assume everyone knows that. There are a lot of people who will just be getting into video and photography and they will think every lens will work just as well as another so it's best to let them know.
@@StoryDrivenFilmmaking watched the whole video a minute ago. You did do an amazing job showcasing the autofocus. Personally I'm not quite sure what to think. I use a Panasonic GH5 and it's driving me nuts. Bought a Sony A6400 as a B cam to replace my G85 (love that thing though) and gradually move from Panasonic to Sony. The colors of the Panasonic are so incredibly nice in comparison to Sony, but the autofocus man... When it's pulsing, it's because it's trying to keep you in focus and does a good job but it is very distracting.
There's one thing I'd like you to test out which I've missed in this video. What were the apertures? Having 3.5 or up will create less pulsing than lets say 1.7 or 2.8. I'm real curious to see the performance with similar and different f stops.
Lovely video mate. I love the hustle..I loveeee that you took the time to get to know your camera and test the hell out of it to find the best way to make it work great, unlike the other youtubers that are just like "ohh AF sucks out of the box, camera bad... " Will save this video to watch again over and over as im getting this camera soon!
This is a good video, its not overly obnoxious self promotion bullshit, it reminds me of early YT videos from professionals, talking about a problem, then give us a solution to those very problems and structuring it into a nice story with good video footage thats not overly over the top and out of place.
I love it, why you only have 4k subs, TH-cam algorithm aint fair thats for sure.
Great information and extremely well presented, as usual! Just got my S5 last week and love it. Thx for the cheat codes! LOL!
Enjoy the S5! Did you open up your Christmas gifts early? I'm telling Santa!
Refreshing to see someone actually learn the camera and use it for more than one day before writing it off. It will work, it’s just canon and Sony are sooo good now that you basically never change any autofocus modes again and there’s nothing to learn. Cmon Panasonic your cameras are soooooo good, just give us PD autofocus even if it’s mostly for positive press/reviews. You really need those to gain traction while people are still transitioning to mirrorless.
Hi Danny, thank you. I totally agree, the S5 autofocus (with the settings I mentioned in this vid) has worked well for me, its just not as perfect as Canon and Sony's autofocus (Even Nikon has great auto-focus now!). I truly believe if Panasonic would have went with Dual Pixel auto-focus with the GH5 they would have been on top of the camera game! At this point I don't think they will leave their Contrast based system (I hope I am wrong though).
This is the first time, where Panasonic has a good Autofocus with a bit settings trimming. Its not as good as the Sony or Canon Autofocus, but a lot better than the old ones like in the GH5.
yea but at this point they just cripple themselves. They have no reason to keep this crappy autofocus system especially for the full frame line and with the autofocus being the one thing their customer base asks them to change. They simply don't listen.
@@codexan Yeah... I think they should go for a dual pixel autofocus or something like canon does.
There are Autofocus issues Because Panasonic gets their sensors from Sony. And they are the only company that takes Sony's sensors and beat them over the head with it. Sony knows this and will not sell the PDAF sensors to Panasonic. Do some research and you will know why. Sony fears the competition and bottlenecks them. This is why I will never buy another Sony product. If this kind of immature crap carries on, we will see the camera market disappear altogether. PS I own an S5 and the AF quality is damn good on that thing. This is from a G85, Gh4, G9 and GH5 user
Thats not true, because Nikon has PDAF sensors and Nikon has better autofocus than Sony does, although Nikon video specs are an afterthought, not that I blame them but thats gonna hurt their sales.
You sir are godsend. Thank you so much for this. I just bought my s5 for travel where I will be using a good amount of AF. Thank you for all the time you've spent on this. Can't wait to watch more of your videos.
Bro this is one hell of a video! I had to pause it and give you your praise. For one, I just upgraded to the S5 from my G7 and had the same exact thoughts before purchasing. Moving up to full frame and not having great auto focus was such a compromise. But I love everything else about Panasonic. I've been making due with it so far, but these settings you demonstrated beat mines by a mile! Ironically, I'm shooting a bts mini branding session for a local photographer soon too. I'm not given the algorithm any credit here, this was straight from Baby Jesus! lol
🤣🤣 "Straight from baby Jesus". Listen, now that's it's been a few weeks since I made this video I now swear by these settings. In my latest video where "filming my first music video" I used the S5 to film that whole skit at the beginning of that vid (4k 24p). I stayed in focus the whole time.
How would you compare the autofocus from the G7 with the S5? Looking to upgrade too from the g7!
@@ahsanjawed3406 a huge difference! The eye auto focus, human/animal face detection, less focus breathing, and overall speed of focusing between subjects are all reasons the S5 is better. Granted your mileage will vary depending on your lens selection and settings, but the S5 is in a whole different league compared to the G7.
Awesome dude! Would a Sigma 24-70mm have almost the same AF performance?
@@ahsanjawed3406 it's funny you should ask that, I'm actually purchasing the Sigma 24-70 soon lol. From my research, the native Panasonic 24-70 will be slightly better. That's to be expected, but the difference is not worth the price. The money I will save getting the Sigma, I will put towards filters and other accessories lol.
OMG, the video settings were a miracle plus, I put on the 225 point and it was tracking me in and out of the edges. Good lookin out bro!
Huge help. Thanks for making this video. It was both equally entertaining and informative!
Thank you! And I am glad it was helpful.
Very nice video Thomas. Love how you came back to the start at the end.
I literally have never seen better product reviews than what you produce bro! In any genre. My hat is off to you once again.
My S5 constantly breathes and loses focus during my vlogs. It’s literally the ONLY complaint I have with this camera. But it’s a HUGE one.
Glad your results have been better. I’ll try the +3 and see if it helps. Lumix lenses are better for sure. I’ve noticed Sigmas are tougher.
Thank you very much. And yes, AF sensitivity +3 and AF speed -2 might work best for vlogging. Let me know if those settings work for you.
Great video, You got me with the title cause I thought...>>oh, well, just another bashing video
Thank you!
As others have said, this video needs more views. Your whole approach to this was groundbreaking, and convinced me to pull the trigger on a S1
Thanks Harvey.
So happy to see someone don't just BS about the Panasonic AF but actually try to understand how to make it work and setup it. Instead to complain about it.
I have the S1 and I got a really excellent result with the Af but I mostly do photo. But thank you for the advise about how to get rid of the pulsing will try that, it was the only thing I didn't like on the Panasonic when shooting video with AF and sadly it goes with how to work the DFD so I don't know how Panasonic will fix that.
One little detail I don't see many talks about is about the Sigma lens. Don't buy the HSM lens, they are dlsr ( with kind of inbuild adaptor) and they have a horrible AF result on the Panasonic. If you go Sigma take only the DN models ( true mirrorless). But the truth is the Panasonic lens will always give a better AF result than sigma.
Hi Nicolas, I am glad you enjoyed the video. And I do agree, I would prefer to focus on the solution and not the problem. And while the S line of cameras autofocus is far from perfect it will work pretty well depending on how you are using it. Hopefully in 2021 Panasonic will move to a new auto-focus system (not holding my breath though).
Yo Nicholas! Im looking to get the Sigma 24-70mm for the S5. Assuming you've had experience with Sigmas and S series? How manageable is the AF system and how far off is the performance from the Panasonic lens? Thanks!
@@ahsanjawed3406 Sadly i don't have any experience with the Sigma or the Panasonic 24-70mm. But from my experience with the Sigma 85mm DG DN and the 105mm DG DN, I would say stick with Panasonic lens. For photo the AF on Sigma L mount is managable ( but really not great), while in video the 85mm is unusable if your subject move more than a cm or two. In other hand the AF on Panasonic lens i have ( 24-105, 70-200) work like a dream.
Nicely done! I can tell how much work you put into this video. 👍🏼
Great work! Recently purchased the S5 and your tips will come in very handy.
This was an awesome video! Would love to see you do a color grade video on the V-Log
Hi, thank you very much! l always feel like I am not the best color grader in the world but I'll make a video on that next month.
Great work as always! Thanks for another amazing video. DOPE AF
Thx brother!
Really nice narrative style and cinematic voice ;
Thanks dude !
Thank you very much.
Thanks for working your way through the various scenarios and settings. Think I'm on my way to the S5 and this was very useful.
Man! Solid video brother! Loved the energy and vibe as well as needed information on this camera's autofocus!! Great work!!
Thx
Making me want to go to Atlanta boi! Great video man. Helpful.
Thank you!
You crushed it with this one bro. Love how thorough and detailed you were. Great job!
Thanks Ricardo
Great Tip for the proper Auto Focusing set up for Lumix S5. I subed instantly after I watched this video. Thank you for your really practical and informative video.
Hi Albert, thx
I'm watching you since your review on the S5 and I actually got one for christmas. So guess I'll be here often since you're making great videos
Hi Jay, congrats on the new S5!
Great video my dude. Really nice run through and examples, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed!
This was dope Thomas great test for the auto focus. Stay killing it!
Thx Curt.
Awesome video on the AF. Keep up the great work.
Thx Reeshard!
Another dope video! It was good to see some behind the scenes of some other photographers.
Thx J! I know right, you always taking all the shine 😆.
Great video! Nicely recorded and edited. Also very informative as well.
Thank you!
Great video. You might increase the performance of the autofocus a little more stopping down the lens. I can confirm that autofocus speed setting is a big factor on the s1 too
Nice video bro! Really informative. You have inspired me to step out of my manual focus comfort zone and experiment with some AF on the S5!
Great great video, really good to listen to as well. Hope you go places man!
How is this my first time finding your channel! Great work man!
Thanks a lot! This channel is pretty new relatively speaking but I am slowly trying to push out some nice content for the peepz.
I love the honesty and effort you put in this quest for perfection. Or at least for what this S5 can achieve the best it can. Thanks a lot for this introspection. The result will for sure help me for my TH-cam video setting with my S1.
Thank you. Glad I could help!
That was fantastic overview! This is very helpful for me. Hope to see more S5 videos in the future.
Great video, just came across it seaking S5 tips, as just bought one. Tried the -1 +3 and worked really well. Thanks.
Good choices in music! And hey! Kudos for a nice relaxing video with a well-researched and tested info. I like it! Cheers!
Autofocus is significantly worse while using an HDMI external monitor - it also works exponentially better in aps-c mode.
Hey Patrick, thx for info. I love your videos by the way! Keep up the great work. Thanks for the comment.
I read that it is because the dfd autofocus is so much based on pure processing power that, when an external recorder is connected, the af gets worse because the processor now needs to handle two tasks: 1. autofocussing and 2. Sending/compressing/whatever the image out to the recorder which takes away processing power for the autofocus
@@luisneumannp2748 this is correct - it will also work better at higher frame rates because it has more frames to grab information from.
@@impatrickt this is true. Can't judge on the S5 but the autofocus update has tremendously improved the focus on the S1. Especially for photos!
What a great practical, professional and fun video. Keep it up !
Glad you liked it! Thank you.
REALLY THANKS FOR THIS SOLUTION! This is the real solution from the one who really use this cam.
this video was like, ridiculously good. immediately subscribed.
Thank you
Super helpful video! Entertaining and informative :) I'm also looking at the S5, coming from a G9, whose autofocus has never been particularly bad for any of my needs.
Damn bro well done on this!! I started my hybrid shooting journey with the GH4 and G7 them G85...and micro 4/3 did wonders for me. But after my photography style changed amd I began shooting much more headshots I switched to film frame and gel in love with the depth using the Sony A73 amd then the EOS R for the past 18 months, I also shoot my family with Fujifilm on the weekends...but Ive come to really miss the LUMIX experience.
So I’m considering the S5 along with the R6 now. I’m glad to hear of your experience with it!!
Thanks,
Adam
I used to shoot with a pentax k3...and everyone complained about the AF. I hope Panasonic's is better, I'm waiting for the UPS truck to arrive with my new S5😊😊😊
Great! Thanks for taking the time to shows us the way of Lumix S5 autofocus
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Great video Thomas! Rocking BRoll - Good point on the vlog AF results- you do get better results in Vlog and AF sensitivity to +3
Thinking of getting either the S5 or the A7C for TH-cam stuff. I really like the look from the S5 but the AF of Sony is great. Just 8bit though.
YEP, a video beast for the price. The I like that the glass is a lot more affordable than the others. Just Got the 85mm and it is sharp.
Another Thomas gem! Your stuff is so well shot and narrated, one of the best on TH-cam. Interesting that the 1080 yielded the best results. The autofocus on my GH5 caused me to just manual focus all the time, which is ok for a lot of wildlife stuff I used to shoot. But, I'm getting the Sony 70-350mm for my a6400 this Christmas to hopefully get birds in flight or bees, etc. which is blind luck with my GH5, lol. I envy that S5, yummy images. Good one, Thomas!
Hi Randy, Thx! I am glad you are doing well. I can't wait to see what you can do with that 70-350mm! Yeah the AF on the GH5 is not its strongest feature lol.
Amazing video. Your solutions and recommended settings are going to be the reason I get this camera after being on the fence for so long.
Sorry for the late reply. How is the camera working out for you?
I'm loving it! Have only done client photos so far but I am doing my first video on Monday and I'm trying to dial in the AF settings. I am shooting flat and RAW which seems to help with the contrast based AF issue, rather than shooting in log. Really appreciate your experiments with the sensitivity/speed settings in this video! It's a huge help.
Before I say anything, well done for click baiting me in with the negative title! 👏🏾🍾 Great Video. Been on the hunt for the best AF settings for the s5 since I got if a couple days ago. This video helped a tonne!
Haha, you know it's funny I never do clickbait titles but I thought that title fit since so many people feel that way. Oh, and congrats on your new S5!
Genial, saludos desde Santiago de Chile y mucha suerte en tus proyectos!---Love Lumix!
Well Thomas, I’ve just traded in a GH5 and two lenses to up grade to the S5 and the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 lens. Will have to wait for a week or so for it to arrive, but looking forward to it joining my other GH5 and GH5’s.
Hey Gary, that's awesome. As a GH5 owner I really like the S5. I think your going to love it. I actually just sold my GH5S as I didnt think there was a reason to have 2 GH5's, 1 GH5S, and the S5. Since I had the GH5S for its low light capabilities and the S5 now fills that spot for me.
@@StoryDrivenFilmmaking I think this is going to be a great combination.
The perfect demo of the autofocus. Great Job!
I rarely comment, but you did get my attention. I like your calm and kind style! Keep it. Take care...
Thank you
Great breakdown and practical experimentation! Subscribed!
Thx!
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORKING TESTING!
Hi Aidan, It was my pleasure! Thank you for checking out the video!
Nice video bro! Astonishing images!!
Fantastic video! Thank you so much man, you really saved me a lot of time in trial and error. I love my S5!
No problem Alex and thank you!
I would love to see and update for late 2021
As an S5 user (photo) I appreciate the way you're testing the auto focus customization. I believe that most of the reviewer's that looked at this camera never dug deep enough into this menu and just stamped this camera as sub-par autofocus. Thank you for the insights!
Hi Didrik, I appreciate that!
@@StoryDrivenFilmmaking Hi Thomas, Not sure if you're into photography as well but I'd love some vids on deeper dives into photo autofocus settings. I've been messing around with the 6k photo and live composite modes which have opened up some new creative possibilities for me. This camera has so many different functions, as a new Lumix user (came from sony) I've got a long way to go! All the best
Also really great tip for the S5 is when in the menu system and you're not sure what something does, while its selected hit the disp. button and a box will pop that explains what it does.
I don't do offer any photography services for clients but I do post quite a lot of pics on IG using the S5 and GH5 (@creatorswithvision). I've use the high resolution pic mode on the S5 for lots of images on my IG. That's a great tip regarding hitting the display button. Thanks!
At 8.20 for example, is not really acrive the tracking. For confirm face you must click in the square/face and appear a middle line at half of every side of the the square.
So is active face tracking.
There is no way to click on your face if your on the shot 1😅
Gorgeous grading. Loved it!
Thank you.
Fantastic video mate. Really considering swapping from my Sony A7iii to an S5, this has made the jump a little more clear to make the choice. Thanks!
great video man, looking forward to seeing more video 4k 60fps with autofocus
When you shot the model @ 9:28 was your F stop low since it was in low light? Since u compared it to you walking in Day light if ur f stop was high the autofocus would work better
Hi. Yes, my F stop was higher for the shots in my backyard. However, I was shooting at the same F stop for the model that I was for the shoot I did at the 5:51 mark (f3.5). I actually just shot my first wedding with the S5 on December 31st and I can confirm that the auto-focus works better with the speed set to -1 or -2. For the wedding I kept my AF speed at -2 and for the aisle shots the autofocus worked pretty well. I haven't gotten a chance to dump all of the footage yet but I am pretty confident in the settings I gave in this video after using them on this wedding.
@@StoryDrivenFilmmaking awesome. I will set mines to -1 and try it out. You ever use the internal 5/6k 3:2?
Unfortunately I haven't gotten to test out the 5.6k at all. I have a few shoots mid January where I want to test out the RAW features as well. The only downside to filming in RAW though is that I have to use Final Cut to edit the footage (I use Resolve).
Appreciate your hard work. Also Thomas you have excellent camera presence.
Thank you
Excellent video. Thanks. Your narration was perfect .
Great video. I have a question though. I do wedding videography using canons, and for several reasons I'm looking to switch. I shoot most of the wedding on a gimball, with fluid movement and let the autofocus do most of the work. Do you think this camera's autofocus would hold up in those circumstances? Especially in the darker reception venues?
Hi McKay, the short answer is no. The problem with the S5 is when objects move toward the camera or away from it. If you want to get gimbal shots like that then your results will not be consistent. However for interviews or shots where you will be keeping the camera locked down I have not had a problem with the autofocus.
Stick with the Canons.
@@StoryDrivenFilmmaking thanks for the intelligent and well thought out video! This is exactly what I needed to know. Really like the S5 but I'm also a gimbal guy. Just subscribed, looking forward to watching more of your videos!
Great video mate 👍i still haven't had the courage to use auto focus on the s5, i came from shooting video with the gh5 and got used to shoot in manual focus, but now might have it a go some time.
Great video, very good. Every s5 owner should watch this
Thank you.
Mate have you ever tried taking photos of your pets? Any way to make the S5 focus on the eyed? Most of the time my shots focused on other things like the nose, it's frustrating.
Solid man. Just maybe overlay settings and explain mode such as full frame, crop etc.
Wanted to edit to say you have a great personality on camera, bro solid video. Subbed
Thx for the suggestions and compliments.
Whats the music you used at the beginning? Around 1:56
Hey Keshav, I have something better for you. Download an app called shazam. It's a music discovery app. Basically you can play a song and the app will tell you the exact song that is playing. I also use this app if there is a song that I want to use in a video I watch. That way you never have to ask a TH-camr what song is that again. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the video!
Hey Thomas, I like your videos. Good job! Keep on going!
Thank you.
What a fun video to watch. Everything looks good! I've been thinking about getting a Panasonic to start with but not so sure now! I need something with good af
Yeah if you need perfect af I would definitely look at other options. It is a great camera tho.
Excellent vid mate, really well done
Thank you.
Great video, thanks for the settings ideas! Have to test more but it also seems like putting a LUT preview display over V-log also seems to help the camera pick up focus a bit better in regards to increased contrast. Might be the equivalent of using a standard profile but with the advantage of V-log
Hi Matt, thank you and thanks for the LUT preview idea!
@@StoryDrivenFilmmaking You’re welcome! Not clear if it’s in the path of the autofocus or just displayed but my face detect testing seemed a bit faster with the monitor LUT though YMMV
Your approach and style is fantastic.
Thanks!
Thank you for the video. I want to buy this camera more for photography (I love Panasonic colors) but I want to be able to use video auto focus if I have to. Moving from Fuji. Thanks for the content.
This is all around great work.
Nice video. I am a Sony user myself but Panasonic have the best value for money cameras (G9 and S5).
Pretty well filmed and indeed, the S5 does for sure a better job with the FW Update :-)
Please make a comparison b/w Auto and manual focus on this camera !
Incredible video/editing/music/everything! As someone who's about to buy this camera , this video was incredibly informative
Great video and super informative mate
Love this content Bros 😁😁😁
Thanks!
Appreciate u putting in dat work!
Thank you!
So funny and informative haha love it. Thanks, how is the 20-60mm kit though I'm kinda on a budget
Hi George, thank you! I really like the 20-60mm I just shot a little mini-doc in D.C this week and I use the 20-60mm and the sigma 35mm exclusively for the shoot. I like the 20-60mm because out of all of the L-mount lenses that I currently own for the S5, the AF works the best with the 20-60mm.
great greate video BUT just be careful with the audio leveling. music kicks in, i turn it down, voice over kicks in, i have to turn it up... i need new batteries in the remote
Wow. Your channel needs more subscribers and this video - more views. (New subscriber here too. 🙂) I love your videography style, and this video is so helpful. I love the S5 so much, especially for the stabilization, but I just can’t invest in something that has such bad autofocus. That’s one of the most important features in any camera IMO. (Crazy that it’s so unreliable.)Thank you so much for this video!
Hi Angela, thanks for checking out my video! I also love the S5. I wish I could say it was perfect but it’s definitely not. I definitely manual focus most of the time.
The thing with Panasonic AF is that it is mostly contrast based. Shooting in VLog, you have little to no contrast. It might be better to shoot in HLG which provides more contrast for the AF system and still gives you some dynamic range to work with in post. Here is a video I found that shows some helpful techniques in improving AF with the S5: th-cam.com/video/apyAzQ0w7MI/w-d-xo.html
Hey Thomas great explanation of the S5 AF. I have an opportunity to purchase a used S1 with a 24-105 Panasonic lens or purchase a new S5 with the kit lens. Both are roughly the same price $2,300. What is the best option? Pros and Cons.
Hi Xed, thank you. Here is a really good article on the main differences between the S5 and S1. mirrorlesscomparison.com/preview/panasonic-s1-vs-s5/
I personally like the S5 for it's smaller size so that's why I went with it over the S1H.
@@StoryDrivenFilmmaking Thanks Brother!
Fantastic work! Just found your channel and subscribed.
Thank you!
Great news that 1080 60p works well. I only really shoot 1080 50p (pal) so this should help.