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I feel especially terrible for the sister. She wasn't the favourite despite clearly being a better person than her brother. Everything she did was normal teenage girl stuff, compared to her psycho brother. And she was the one actually getting an education. And she fought for her life until the end. The terror she must have felt. I have a brother and the love i have for him is unmatched, I could not imagine even thinking about hurting him. I hope Menhas rots in jail, and that his last moments are filled with more terror than his four family members combined. If there is no Hell i imagine one could be made just for him.
I suspect her rebellion was just to get attention. That culture celebrates males.
I feel so bad for her too😢
The type of culture does not except any type of mistakes from females, but men can rape and make mistakes all day long and it’s OK
Apparently these normal teenage stuff is not normal AT ALL when you’re south asian and not to mention muslim(which she by the way didn’t choose to be)
@@espresso3005 every family is different it’s not good to generalise. Many of my Muslim friends are allowed to do the things she did.
These stories happens a lot in Asia, though not necessarily results in death of the family. He was the favorite only because he is the son; a daughter never meant much. The sons are always shielded, put on a pedestal, and never to be blamed on; they simply never learnt to grow up, to cope with stress, to face the reality, to let go of self-image. The daughters become rebellious for always being in the “wrong,” always come second and need to prove themselves worthy, struggle with relationships with the family, but are usually the one who grow and take responsibilities to care for the parents when they are old. It happens too much, yet we still don’t learn from it. The sex favoritism is hopeless.
Very true. Like she said in the video. The sister was normal but was considered bad bc she was more westernized. But these boys are treated like kings and don’t know how to live in the real world and think everyone should treat them they way their mothers too. Very toxic
I’m Arab and it’s the same for us, a lot of boys are treated like kings and girls have to prove they’re worth even being born.
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we need a revolution so bad
OMG TRUUUUUEEEEEEEEE
The fact that he stopped to post their photos between the murders means he was proud of what he was doing. He wanted to show the others his accomplishment. That’s sickening. Saddest part is they spoiled him and put him on a pedestal and this is how they were repaid.
Spoiling him and holding him on a pedestal is ironically most likely at least part of what turned him into such a monster. Someone that's spoiled their whole life would for sure turn into a narcissist, like Bella suggested. They'd think they're superior than everyone else.
@@punxie89 ehhh, I think it might have been pressure and fear of being punished like his sister if not worse because he was seen as perfect.
When my great grandma was still alive she would always remind (with a bit of sarcasm) my mom this “go giver whatever your child wants so that one day she will sell you”
Saying that "this is how they were repaid" is honestly so wrong. Yes, they shouldnt have done that but that does in no way at all justify them being killed
As a Bengali woman living in London, I can 100% attest that the whole favouritism thing is HUGE in the South Asian/Desi communities. Parents, especially the mothers will often smother their sons, particularly their first son as they are seen as more valued than a daughter. Very toxic and outdated, I know. I have experienced this firsthand from my own parents and so have my female peers. Unfortunately their love for the son can be blinding which means they turn often disregard red flags as ‘boys being boys’ and I do think their blinding love for Mehnaz played a huge factor in this.
This is why I hate Desi culture. It's a curse to be born in here
I hope the new generation recognizing this will do better with their own daughters ❤ it is possible to break out of toxic family structures!
Not Bangla but I am Desi and I agree that gender norms play a detrimental role. And we need some generational healing in parenting styles, as do other people in other cultures too. As a person who navigated intense parental pressure to be perfect, strict parenting and being the disappointing daughter that was always the "bad kid" no matter how hard I tried to please them, I still never have ever in my life wished harm to my parents. And I can't imagine a world where I myself cause them any physical harm. I am struggling so much to understand the internal thoughts of this human. I lost my dad earlier this year to cancer and I am devastated. I would have done anything to keep him alive. How can someone themselves kill their parents and be alright? How do you get to a place to cause such physical pain and watch your loved ones die? Something is seriously off with this guy.
It’s exactly the same in my mexican family. Misogyny in hispanic households is very normalised. I remember so many times growing up where my brother was kinda “let off”. He could sit down and play video games all day, while I on the other hand was pressured to clean up, do laundry, and study from morning till night. I think it’s a very common thing in ethnic cultures.
@@beyondallcontrolofc smth is wrong with this guy he slaughtered his family. No need to mention that. But i just wanna say(being a desi) what you feel that's cause these desi kids are raised like this, to love and forgive ur parents no matter what. This was put in our head "at the end hes ur father..mother" but yes parents can be wrong & brother they really really suck at their job, parenting. But we wont ever go against them, cuz they freaking sacrifice everything literally. For us. My mom worked so hard for my education (luckily I was a nerd) but not everyone is. Also the fact "we just want u to be happy" ok we get it. But do they know 'where' is our happiness? Do they even try? Why a boy couldn’t tell his parents he failed a simple exam?why he had to kept lying for 3years? And how distant their relation was that nobody had a clue?ok i get it he's very good at hiding OR they really suck at parenting? When i was younger i alwz asked my sister, 'when are we ever going to live our life?', and I still can't. Also they you're forced to accept a religion and ruled you can't show ur face to the world, can't talk to opposite genders etc etc right after birth, that's another thing.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I'm not saying to kil(l) ur parents HELL NO but it’s ok not to live ur life for them, leave everything behind for them or to sacrifice everything for them
I can't believe the trauma that the people who were in the server and actually saw those photos and how they felt.
i hope that they were all able to get counseling after such a traumatic experience.
that’s exactly what i was thinking
They could have called the authority faster.
@@scarlettwitch6719 did you actually watch the video, just wondering?
I have watched the video yet but I'm assuming explicit images were sent, that's why it's so important for discord users to he careful who they choose to hang out with
My best friend is a Child and Youth worker in Markham and I remember when this first happened she sent me an article because she knew his sister. She works with kids who have behavioural issues and she was one of them. She said it was even more tragic because she was actually a really sweet girl, she just had a tough home life. Imagine working so hard to please your family realizing it was likely impossible and then to be murdered by the brother they hold superior? I feel bad for all four of them of course, but I have an even greater sympathy for Malesa. RIP 🥺
Thats heartbreaking!
The fact that his sister was a normal, healthy young person who did actually get into York university.... Yet she was not good enough, just because she wasn't shy, socially awkward, and in reality showing signs of antisocial personality disorder (psychopath)
Jbh
Honestly, she sounds like me. And her brother like my brother🙈🤦🏾♀️ this is pretty typical of most South Asian families though, even still today, and that truly sucks. I'm 30, and this is still the dynamic in my family. My brother has achieved nothing, yet I'm still always in the wrong. It's a sad reality for so many eldest daughters in Asian families😢
The fact is, even if he came clean, I can almost guarantee his parents would've found a way to justify it and placate him. Its the South Asian way
So I’m Australian and so is my family heritage and this is the same in my family.
My brother is treated like a prince and I’m the peasant- he has has nothing to show for 40 years of living and I have everything
Fortunately, I stopped caring a long time ago and I barely see any of them
@@shontellepayne551 On ya mate! Best way to be, My 44yo sister is a junkie fiend and still seems to come up smelling like roses, like you I've got a teflon barrier to it now 😋
no it’s because she’s a woman
I can only imagine how traumatic it would have been to be in that discord server and not be able to do anything, just frantically trying to find any online clues
If they had reported it to Discord and police as soon as the 1st pic was sent, the police could've gotten a warrant for his IP address then his address and lives could've been saved
@@smileyemilyful did you not watch the video? They did go to the police but the police didn’t believe them. They also didn’t know his name or even what country he lived in. How could you put any blame on them?
@@smileyemilyful in the video she said that they did contact the police but the police didn't take them seriously. Even if they did report it to Discord, it's unlikely anything would've happened quickly enough to make any difference. Someone even did get his IP address but it wasn't able to be tracked to his exact location.
I think the fact that there had to be an investigation into their actions tells you what you need to know. The members also felt the need to make a documentary to clear their names could raise a few eyebrows too. Why you got to clear your names if you didn't do anything wrong? Google it
@@smileyemilyful I can't find anything about what you're talking about on the internet. Can you point me to a source about their investigations? I haven't been able to find anything that points them to being suspicious
He's right for saying he's a pathetic coward, he didn't have to kill his entire family. Even if his parents got mad for him dropping out of school, they weren't gonna stay mad forever and probably would've helped him to move forward. Just senseless.💔
asian parents are a very pathetic breed. i am not trying to justify murder but they would have shamed him so much. i dont expect you to understand but asian parents are not understanding. they are pathetic
He's the rare honest pathetic coward. Most people wouldn't want to admit this about themselves
Exactly
no they're brown his parents will bring it up everyday
@@shreyasrivatsan8852 thank you for agreeing with me
Bella: “He had never actually gotten accepted to York University “
Me: “I FUCKING KNEW IT!”
Somehow I just knew that he’d been lying. This one reminds me of the vase of Jennifer Pan where her parents were so intense about her finishing school and she just spun this huge web of lies for so long and her parents believed her and then it all came crashing down, and he decided to take his family out of the picture completely 😢
Also, I get that he had “offensive humor” but it took TWO BODIES for people on the server to figure out there was something wrong 😑 that’s fucked up. But also, what are you going to do?
The google image search that girl did was smart
Jennifer Pan, Chandler Halderson, the list goes on :(
Personally, my boyfriend and I take any sort of “joke” about killing anyone very seriously. We do not ever say phrases similar- the dark energy behind the word kill is real!
Bangladeshi here. Though it's uncommon for situations like these to end up in a gruesome murder, favoritism is a major issue. Boys grow up being pampered and loved, they never face a reality check and sometimes their parents defend them to the pits of hell (I'm talking rape, assault, etc). Since all their heinous deeds are defended by their parents (usually especially the mother), they continue their shenanigans while the daughter juggles academics, caring for the family, being "quiet" but also social enough, following all the parent's ridiculous rules to a T. And what happens when they grow up? These boys get to marry the girl of their choice if they have one while the girl is usually set up for an arranged marriage even if she has her eyes on someone else/is taken. When the parents grow old, it's the daughter's efforts that causes these parents to still live in a home and not a nursing house while the son leads a carefree nonchalant life after handing over his mom's duties to his wife.
Most modern households don't do this anymore, we've made great progress. But this situation is very common in low income households and lower middle class families. No matter what you do, you will simply never be enough.
Most middle eastern cultures, being a girl is the worst, it's not religion- it's culture.
@db nope, due to their misinterpretation of religion and their upbringing
@tulip tate hater 😂
A lot of Asian parenting is based on the fact that they expect their children to become their support systems in the later years. It’s hard to cope with all the pressure they put on you. But that said, this is no way of dealing with it. He could have run away if he didn’t want to tell his family. This is horrifying and also traumatising for the people on the server to have to be a witness without being able to help
It's so weird because I'm in the UK and now mystery Mondays are actually on Monday 😂❤
Omg literally
fr it feels so peculiar
I’m from Croatia but, same 😂
Lol I hope one day too know this feeling #getmeouttheusa
Well she is in the UK as well
"Parents had high expectations"...you just know where this is going.
There should be a website where people anywhere in the world can report crimes they hear/see being discussed online and the information will be passed to the correct jurisdiction
This story is absolutely heartbreaking. My thoughts go out to the murdered family and to the people in that server who are probably traumatized for the rest of their life's ❤️
In traditional Asian culture, males are the pride of the family because they are expected to carry on the family line.
Females are usually the "commodity", where they were "sold" off to the other family.
The parents probably still had the old fashion mindset and they probably also treated Menhaz differently from his sister and was probably more pressured to excel in life (also a way for parents to "show off" they have a capable son by talking about his achievements)
And that is also why his sister will always play the 2nd fiddle, even if it was proven she excelled more than Menhaz did because she will eventually be "sold off".
it's sad to see many cases where parents favourite sons over daughters, just to get brutally betrayed by them... patriarchy is do deeply rooted into our society
The way you take us through a case, with such clarity and from the unbiased POV, it feels like a journey, hats off, one of the best channels on youtube.❤
Since he messaged his Discord buddies beforehand, it should've been premeditated
That is what 1st degree murder is. That's what they charged him with
@@rahimadreama23 Then he should have gotten life in prison for each pre meditated murder. But he got 40 years and he could be up for parole. Why are they letting this rabid evil demon even live. I don't want to feed and house and entertain demons such as he is, with our taxes. Hang the bastard and save the tax payers a lot of money.
@@rahimadreama23 I think she means the 2nd degree murder charge he got for his mother. That one was clearly premeditated as well.
This feels so strange. I was a part of the PWI private server community and I gamed with this guy before. I had friends that knew him well and called the police. I'm so thankful I only knew him very casually. How awful.
I'm on the other side. I worked near one of their houses, and went to the same school he did. I am rewatching to listen out for dates to see if I may have ever crossed pathes with this guy.
I’m sorry but y’all need to go out and experience nature and meet real people
@@bigbootyboy420 says the one on TH-cam rn commenting bro??😭
@@bigbootyboy420 ... my comment was about working and going to College. You don't get much more going out to live your life than that. >.> perhaps don't lump us all in with the literal murderer kay? That said, just because we play games, doesn't mean we are this guy who ONLY played a game. Geez.
@@bigbootyboy420 have you ever heard of hobbies
This reminds me of the Jennifer Pan case and more recently the Chandler Halderson case. So many lies about such stupid things that lead to tragedy. Such a sad case
As a Bangladeshi myself I appreciate you covering this. I didn’t even know this story.
I used to be active on discord in 2020-2021 (lock down had be extremely bored) and I can’t explain to you how many times people in the chat would randomly drop gore and videos and pictures of unalived people. it was so so traumatic I can’t imagine what those people went through
This was on IG but I got added to a group chat and it has mostly boys in it. Theres ppl sending the cat blender video (if ykyk) and they keep saying the n word even tho they're not black it's so weird
Yep. Discord is insane. I used it so much from 2018 to 2021. I was in servers with literal 13 yr olds and they’d drop the most insensitive things. i remember one of these kids on there was admitting how they secretly use the dark web, and they’d go so into detail about what they’d find on there. I stopped using it completely in the end of 2021 and I can’t explain how much better I feel mentally. Discord is not for the weak.
This is WHY you do NOT spoil your kids and have favorites. I know someone who had two boys, the favorite because an abusive alcoholic and abused children, then the other was normal and hard working. But no matter how hard the normal one did, could never compete.
The sister was SO freakin BEAUTIFUL!! This is beyond horrific. I'd never heard of this story until now. Why didn't he just kill himself instead of killing his family?!?! My condolences, deepest sympathy, and prayers for the victims. 🙏🏾💔😳😔😢💔🙏🏾
Parents always favour the problematic, less intelligent child. It's because he was the boy. So he didn't actually deserve their favour.
This case is beyond vicious and brutal good thing those photos never got leaked he is mentally ill
I think the reason why people take it as a joke is that you could never suspect someone you know, to do this bad thing. I get that it's dark, and something you should never joke with but there's no way the others would look at their friend and think he's capable of murder. But also we never know what's on their mind.
plus, even when we was actively murdering his family and sending photos to discord, the police wasn't taking it seriously, I doubt anything would have happened if they had reporting him for those jokes. its just sad all around really.
@fer Exactly! Even the police didn't take this matter seriously. So sad that they could not have saved his remaining family. But again, it is not his friends to be blamed for.
Guys like him who make jokes like that on a regular basis become so detached from reality and their own humanity that they end up committing crimes like this without any real thought. Its really sad and disappointing how often these crimes are talked about prior to and still not stopped.
I feel like we should be calling out “jokes” like that for this reason. I’m all for dark humor, but this is a lot.
I think it’s the other way around. People with dark thoughts and impulses will end up joking about it because it just spills over into their real life. It’s a red flag. The jokes aren’t the cause, but the symptom. Plenty of people joke in a dark way and aren’t violent, especially if they’ve been through traumatic events themselves- it’s a common way of processing it
I can’t imagine how traumatizing that was for his Discord friends. So awful.
This was a great case and one I’ve never heard before- thank you Bella! So so traumatic for the discord users but what genuine, absolute heroes they are for all that they did (including trying to keep him active to get more evidence out of him).
I really hope the people on the Discord are doing ok. I can’t imagine seeing what they did and doing everything they can to save his sister and mother. They are unsung heroes in this story.
I honestly thought the sister was going to be the killer because of the way they excluded her but wow I can’t believe it was the “golden” child that turned out to be the murder.
i am glad that this case is getting coverage. the house he killed his family in is 2 minutes away from mine and it had a horrible effect on the community. thank you ❤
I used to use discord a lot a while back and in the group that I was prominent in there was a boy who would make comments about being depressed and stuff, and although he never mentioned anything to me privately(we weren’t close), I was close with some of the group members who knew him personally and who would later tell me that he was in a very dark mental state. Sadly, the boy took his own life. So now whenever I see comments regarding these things I will take the time to message the person and try to comfort them in any way I can. Yes, speaking to someone online is different than irl, but it really could help someone.
Despite his parents being strict, it seems like they were very forgiving; and most definitely would have come to accept it. (It seems like he was the only one who couldn’t). It also seems like their strict parenting was more so out of wanting the best for their children, compared to other cases we have seen with a similar story
I have siblings. It wouldn’t be surprising, to me, if his sister realized he wasn’t going to school anymore, and just ignored it to keep the peace in the family. I’ve covered for my siblings like this just because I don’t want to stress over everyone fighting.
"their lives cut short bc he couldn't come to terms w his own short comings" is spot on!
it's ironic how, yes his parents were harsh on him and put a lot of pressure on him, but they genuinely just wanted him to have a successful and content life and he took theirs.
it doesn't sit right with me how he also took pictures of them afterwards, as if it was funny almost? he genuinely is so disconnected to not even think "that's my dead mother/dead sister" etc. when taking them, in no way devastated or effected by what he did.
may they rest in peace 🪽🤍
This is crazier than a movie, absolutely terrifying. I feel horrible for his victims and fellow discord members who must’ve felt so helpless
Honestly, major props to the discord group for trying to keep record of everything!
dude really replied "damn" 20:10
Love the tic-tacs Bella, hope we get an update on how everything is going after the move… Love you and your content!!!
I’m so excited that mystery Mondays are back! Hope you both have settled in to London life 🇬🇧 we’re happy to have you this side of the pond :) xx
I went to York University, and the main campus is basically like a small city, it doesn't surprise me at all that his sister didn't think it strange not to run into him at school
As a male asian who has a little sister , I can 100% confirm the favoritism thing is actually true but what people do not understand is actually how such a practice not only harms the daughter but the son as well . I absolutely suck at adulting , have a ton of self esteem issues and am honestly incapable of dealing with any kind of social situation . I even used to have anger issues . I am not saying that the males suffer more then the females or something stupid like that but well we still do get harmed . Favoritism is bad for both the favored and unfavored and the favored still suffer even though the unfavored suffer more . I am genuinely proud of my sister because she is a talented, nice (kinda ), smart and hard working girl . I would not trade her for the world .
Chilling. It shows how de-sensitization is so powerful. You can't escape the control that you've built over yourself. We cannot be close-minded
I think you nailed it. As someone who's been gaming since 10, it would be nice if Discord and other platforms would make it known that you can report stuff like this and how to go about it. We're all fairly aware that you can report online harassment, but it wouldn't have occurred to me that they could have a system for real life emergency situations.
I can't imagine the horror the other discord members would have felt and also how helpless knowing this was happening and trying to get information and seeing it unfold before them. I feel for the victims but especially the sister as she was always overlooked but made it into uni and was bettering her life just for this happen.
My sister lied to my parents about going to the University of South Florida for over a year. She actually had a scholarship to go and then her grades fell behind and she lost her scholarship. She then went behind my moms back used her social security number to take out a $5,000 student loan with my mom on it and later ended up getting kicked out of university because of her grades and pretended to still be going to classes when in reality she was leaving the house and driving for Uber during that time. My parents didn’t find out about all the lies until my mom checked her credit and saw the student loan.
what happened after? does ur mum still talk to ur sister?
@@fatamy8597 she still lives with my parents and it’s not talked about really. My mom and dad were livid and did a lot of big talk about how she was getting kicked out, but that was 3 years ago. I’m the oldest and always got treated more strictly, she’s the baby (4 years younger) and has always gotten away with everything. If it had been me that did what she did I’m positive the police would have been involved for me committing fraud and stealing from my mom. I think because she’s younger, and also because she’s a girl there’s always been a big difference in how we were treated, but I’m glad because I’m a lot more independent than her.
@@mpdw3jwhat’s your sister doing now though in terms of school and work
I spent some of my childhood in Markham and live in the Greater Toronto Area and had never heard of this case. How awful. I'm glad the photos were never leaked. It's wild how he jumped to this conclusion. My brother and I grew up with a lot of academic pressure (I myself dropped out of York U in 2016) but that shame was always internal and never involved a thought about harming anyone else just to escape further embarrassment. He really could have given up the ruse and dealt with the consequences. Instead, because of the preoccupation with his own future he still could have improved at any point, he had to steal the future of his entire family.
Me too. I’m from Whitby, i think Bella has covered one other case from Markham and I’ve heard of that one but never this one and it was so recent!
the thing is, the shame never remain internal in an asian family. parents will use it as an excuse to be abusive to you. asian parents are very conservative and truly horrible. i dont expect anyone to understand the cultural context behind these stories but that is the truth.
I’m in mississauga and I’ve never heard of this either!! So terrible 😞
@@trumpetbylousflwr5437 I totally understand the sentiment here- I just want to clarify that I'm Asian myself, so I'm not sure that statement is as objective as you framed it. I immigrated to Canada when I was four. There are very much unhealthy and abusive patterns across Asian cultures, but I don't think making broad blanket statements are helpful when building this context. My own parents came from abusive households and they are by no means perfect, but they've learned and unlearned a lot of their harmful behaviour.
What I meant by the shame being internal is that my brother and I were a lot harder on ourselves than our parents were. I recognize that's not the case for every Asian household, and in fact, it wasn't until the last six years that my parents eased up on the pressure, but I think it's extremely counterproductive to perpetuate the myth that Asian parents are monolithic and by their very nature, horrible. The truth is far more complex than that.
@@mikaelalucido well, i am sorry you had to go through that experience. that must have been horrible. I agree there are good parents in our community too, but there is enough evidence to believe that im not perpetuating a "myth". that is very hurtful. hearing about how your parents have attempted to unlearn their behaviour is something that majority of the asian children can only imagine. So, i disagree with the fact that majority of the asian parents are good and accepting. I agree that they are on the rise, but you cannot say that they are the ones in the majority.
Hey Bella! Just wanted you to know that I love you and your videos a lot! The way you narrate these cases makes em even more interesting..
And a small request :) if possible can you please cover these cases from India
-The Nirbhaya Case
-Geeta and Sanjay Chopra
kidnapping case
-The Tandoor Murder Case
Sending lots of love to you and your family
Wow! Such a sad case. I wish he would have just told his parents the truth. Obviously, his sister was doing fine. This was senseless.
I’m not sure if anything could have been done to stop him.
Great work , Bella. I’m so happy to see your beautiful face again !!
bella, i am too a programmer and have friends on discord, so it's soooo weird to hear a case that the person have a similar life as me and makes such a different choice of how to live it. so sad for all of them who had to suffer for a boy that only didn't know how to cope with his lies and mistakes. :( awful.
I was hoping sister and dad to get saved. It's so sad and frustrating.
the way u pronounce scarborough 😂😂 love u , accent queen
ahh oops, we have a scarborough in australia and we pronounce it the way i did in the video so i didn’t realise it would be different! hahaha
This is an absolutely tragic story and I cannot believe this is the first I am hearing of it. I was born in Scarborough and grew up in Markham, Ontario. A lot of my family still live in Markham and, when I googled the street he lived on, it is less than 10 min away from my parent’s home. I listen to a lot of true crime stories but it’s a whole different feeling when you can relate to the places in the story this much. I can’t e believe this happened so close to where I live.
12:07 actually the moment we let our families down they keep attacking us for it and it really gets scary and depressive. I live in a similar household and it was a lose-lose situation for him whether he told his parents or not
Yeah, they don't just forgive and eventually move on, failing in a big way will be held over your head for the next 20 yrs. Even distant family members will talk sht about you and you can't say anything back
I have heard of other cases like this one as well. I will never comprehend why someone would choose to unalive their family members over just telling them the truth. I am sure that his parents, sister, and grandma would have done everything in their power to help him get on the right track. And the fact that his online community didn’t have enough information to prevent his father and sister from being unalived as well is so beyond heartbreaking and gut wrenching. My thoughts and prayers are with the surviving family members and loved ones of all of the victims. 💗
discord users specially those people who helped or tried to help ... I have my respect towards them
I’m not in online communities where ppl say offensive stuff but when I do see them I def report those accounts. First of all it’s never really funny and ppl are either scared to rock the boat or look “uncool” to their peers. He was pathetic inside and out very unfortunate for his family.
What a horrible and tragic case. He did not need to murder his entire family because he was not doing as well in school. This guy is a psychopath! I don't think he should be given parole for these senseless killings. His parents may have been mad, but they would have helped him with his problems and it all could have been handled differently if he had told the truth to them. His friends on Discord should have taken these dark and suspicious messages seriously and contacted Discord admins and the Police much earlier. His families lives could have been saved.
yup, im also bengali and the blatant favouritism towards my male siblings was apparent since i can remember lmao
It's very weird, like you say. Having Mystery Mondays actually on a Monday 🥳. It's very nice though to have you over in the UK. I do apologise about the weather. No two days are the same, and no seasons make sense 😂. Glad you're back into your Mystery making flow. Can't wait for Monday's from now on 🥰.
I hope the family is in a better place and are at rest. My heart really goes out to the people closest to them and those on the discord server who had to watch this unfold. I hope they’ve been able to heal and get any help they need. I hope he rots and never sees the light of day again.
He was a horror. People tried to stop him but it was too late too little. His poor family may they rest in pace
Bella, you are the sweetest, prettiest true crime TH-camr!! ❤️ Thanks for all you do to share these peoples stories
Hey Bella! I’ve been subscribed to you for several years! I know crime and makeup is pretty heavy right now but I truly miss your makeup videos!! I would love to see you do either the crime videos while doing your makeup or just makeup in general. Either way or whatever you do I’m a fan and will watch either way! ❤
Bella was not lying about having videos ready yesterday lmao!
Please cover the Thabo Bester case! It's a huge case in South Africa right and absolutely WILD; it'll fascinate you!
It's such a wild story and not many people are covering it at least not the channels I watch
Yes omgggg
Bella Moonson (South African) has a video on him and so does NicoleClaire (South African) I believe her name is? Both are great channels! :)
Crazy to think he was more afraid of disappointing his family then killing them and going to jail for life. Considering how addicted to that game he was, he was also prepared to loose that 🤯
my thoughts immediately go to the family, how could they have known this would happen? how does someone go from having a plan 3 years in the making to actually doing it? was him being withdrawn into his room and not socializing with them, a sign? should they have talked to him about how he was doing? we of course want to mourn the family and how they had so much life ahead of them cut so short for literally 0 reason but i also think about how could it be possible to prevent this from happening to other families in the future. i don't know how a person could think this for 3 years and not once over that time period do they ever say "maybe i shouldn't or maybe i don't want to go to jail for the rest of my life and die there" or "this is cruel, they love me, why should i do this to them, i should just leave them be?" it seems so insane to even wrap your mind around that this even happened to this family. rip
This is terrifying and devastating. I live in Markham and never knew the details of this case until now.
I’ve waited to what feels like a eternity for one of these videos so in other words thank you 🙏 Bella 😊
I always make sure to keep my kids comfortable so they can share with us parents their
ups and downs rather then pushing them away and at one point it'll be to late
But there's no excuse for this monster
yay i love watching mystery mondays when i’m home sick from work
YESSS I saw this on my subscription videos and I get so excited when u post 😍 thank you!!!
I get that favoritism feeling too well. I do so much yet it's never enough. Brother does nothing yet it's everything and enough, apparently.
just like these parents, some parents just don't see anything other than what they want. find your worth elsewhere or else you will always be chasing their approval and constantly disappointed. And definitely please don't turn to murder. kidding kind of but not really.
I find it so concerning how Discord allowed the photos to be shared. It's one of those rare instances where I kinda wish PM's were being tracked. I mean granted what could be done other than suspending his account but maybe more could've been done? It's honestly mind blowing how often the motivation behind murdering their loved ones is so they don't have to know or live through something. As if that's a justifiable reason to murder innocent people! He was right about one thing. He is a pathetic coward.
sad all around . i'm a bangladeshi american and there are thousands of us in america and we didn't hear of this case. thanks for sharing, mental illness is a pandemic in our society .
Wow, never will it be normal or comfortable to hear a case THAT close to home....I live in Cambridge...and damn Bella, thank you for getting the pronunciations correct ;)
In one interview I saw he said that prison’s in Canada wasn’t that bad so he was thinking going it wouldn’t be so bad. Before they sent him to a cell he asked for a pillow & blanket because it’s cold in there & the cop said we don’t have those. Or something to that effect. I’m sure he quickly got a pretty fast rude awakening.
I have a son in Federal Prison in Canada. They are not wonderful, and do little “correcting or rehabilitating” but they are not even CLOSE to the horrors of US prisons. He was talking about when he was remanded into custody at a police station. Yes, they will make it as uncomfortable for you as they can get away with ie: no blanket, keeping the cells very cold, etc. Hope this helps clear things up :)
@@Dee-JayW I’m in the US. I was just saying he thought it would be easy & he got a big reality check. I don’t think there are many prisons anywhere that rehabilitate. He deserves to be a miserable as possible
I cant imagine watching this over the internet and not knowing what to do and really not being able to do anything
Even if they took his jokes seriously, he was most probably still going to murder his family. When other members reported the actual pictures he's sent in their group no one believed them. Police should not brush off claims no matter how ridiculous they might seem. This is not the first case were people reported a crime before or at the beginning of its occurrence, yet the offender kept going on and on until they went through with their entire plan!
What I don't get is why just leaving your family isn't better than killing them all
of course leaving would've been the morally correct thing to do, but this man likely didn't have that compass. his upbringing would've been very different to yours, with education being paramount - anything else he cared about might've been considered a waste of time. being so withdrawn, he didn't have a close relationship with his parents and likely resented his sister's courage to be herself. he wanted them to suffer as he had been, and he couldn't fathom the shame he'd receive if he just ran away. where would he run to... without the drive to hold a steady job?
@@marisolet but what I do not understand is that from what I have heard about his upbringing and life, I have had a semi-identical life to his but I have never had such thoughts of murdering my family however much they pressured me in education
One thing Bella didn’t mention was part of why Menhaz was the ‘golden child’. He’s the BOY! The ex-pat Bangladeshi community in Canada and the UK are almost more sexist than in modern Bangladesh. The stereotype holds that the boys get all the attention, and all the pressure. The girls are often expected to move to their husband’s house once they are married. If there’s limited money, the boy gets it for his school, his wedding, etc. before the girl.
The most cruel part is his family never even knew he was lying or saw it coming
It's quite common in Bangladeshi households to make their sons the star of the family especially by the mother.
Also, the peer pressure from family for a 1st born child is very real, we have to be perfect so we don't give bad influence to our younger siblings.
I don’t understand how people manage to hide this kind of thing from their parents??? I JUST finished my credits for my degree and there’s no way I could have hidden not going to school from my parents. Ugh also those people who make offensive jokes to be as offensive as possible are so obnoxious and annoying like no one likes you ,,,
It's not as hard as you think😅 I dropped out of nursing second year but my mom's a nurse so I was too scared to tell her. Hid it for 6 months until I was accepted into another program. I went to "class" everyday and everything 😅
as someone who has a pretty dark sense of humor, I have never once (nor would I ever) make jokes ab murdering my immediate family..
This is so sad! I am Asian but not a tiger parent. It’s honestly so sad that these tiger parents just want the very best for their kiddos and yet they cannot communicate effectively! Too many of these cases! Reminds me of Pan family. Horrific.
these parents do not want the best for their kid, tf? they just want to look good by showing off their kids. in reality, they dont care about their kids. asian parents are pathetic
I literally went to same college as my older brother and we saw each other regularly. Cafeteria, computer labs, library, buying books for classes had to be coordinated with our parents, etc.
As someone who has been a similar position (the amount of pressure that his parents put on him), I can see how that pressure could lead to him snapping. I also understand the deep depression said pressure (and not living up to it) can cause. He was the "golden child" and that's an insane amount of pressure and stress on someone who's barely even an adult. I've been at that level of disassociation myself and seen others go through it. It can be some serious shit, but I'm not excusing his actions at all. I mean, the amount of preparation (physically and mentally) shows that he knew exactly what he was doing and had planned it for a very long time. However, the fact that taking his own life wasn't part of his plan really adds another layer to this. It seems like he snapped, but that can't really be true if he was planning this for so long. He planned on going to jail for this, so maybe he wanted a more structured life that would forcefully pull him away from his game. The plan to go to jail is the part that's really got me thinking because often family annihilators plan to either take their own lives or try to frame someone else.
hii bella!! so excited to watch your video :) using this as reinforcement to finish my work early. much love xx
For a year, I was doing hardcore raiding in a game called ESO. I was on discord calls with 4 to 12 people constantly playing, raiding 6 to 14 hours a day. Even if you do have a lot outside of the game that you love, the game takes over. It becomes your life and rules your life. Those people are the most important to you and those who know you the best. In my case we were trying to get the highest achievements for raiding, no death hardmode speedruns, topping the North America servers for score on each raid etc. My worth was my worth as a team member and possibly team leader depending on the group. It’ll really mess you up. I had to get help after I decided to leave because of the toxic environment.
To add to my perspective: There were a couple of people in my circles in ESO that acted like Menhaz, very offensive, often kicked from teams or servers, etc. I am so glad we never had anything this bad happen to our knowledge. But a couple of folks on there would be good for it… I wouldn’t be surprised to see them in a headline that’s all I’ll say. People on the internet are not usually to be trusted, so be careful if you’re reading this!
this case is so recent and so close to me yet i’d never heard of it. horrific☹️
hey bella! love ur vids sm & how u explain everything. just curious tho, are there any cases that you’re too afraid to go too deep in?
You saying the Bangla names in your accent is so cute ❤ Thanks for doing this case.
I'm 10 minutes in but all I can think about is pausing so I can buy some tik taks! Loving the earrings.