To be fair, most of the time in movies when the threat is above and they fail to look up, it's because the people entering the room are used to normal threats, IE checking corners for bad guys with guns and not crazy paranormal ceiling-hiding baddies. By contrast Hellboy is used to the weird shit.
This is such a great interaction between the two characters, Hellboy and Manning; they've been antagonistic the entire movie and then at the end of this mutual fight Manning offers sincere advice instead of being a shit.
@@miloszszyja666 the two probably had a falling out because manning still takes his job way too damn seriously and figured his position still entitled him to being able to boss hellboy around
It's also a great moment because Hellboy always hid his smoking from his father, in Hellboy 1 he was kind of a child in terms of his personality, hiding his smoking like a delinquent teen. Now, in this moment, he gets to meet with a sort of 'father figure' (even an authoritative one) as an equal, and receive advice about something he enjoys. It's a nice bit of closure to their interaction with each other. They respect and understand one another now
this entire scene is just beautiful - Kroenen listen to classical music - Hellboy got his revenge - Manning act like a normal up standing civilian, got slash and literally just ask :"what wrong with you" - Manning actually give us the world greatest advice on how to smoke a cigar - The bond between Manning and Hellboy is not just boss and employee this is why i love del Toro Hellboy, he approach it like an actually comic adaptation ( cheesy line, character act like they are in another episode of the show ) rather than go full on superhero movie
Maning being forced into the field gave him actual appreciation of what Hellboy did and an understanding that doing it clean and by the book, especially fighting these supernatural things, is a detriment to doing the job. He becomes more of a humanizing factor for Hellboy and Hellboy gives him perspective on with the things out there, things like him are necessary.
His raspy laughing and voice is perfect for the character, I love how they portrayed him in this movie. I only wish they had recorded the soprano version of Kroenen’s lied
Okay, but you do have to admit that this is the moment when Manning showed us that he actually does deserve his position. A psychotic zombie Nazi with dust for blood who looks like a store mannequin from Hell swings a sword at him, and Manning acts like he just cut in line at the bank.
I felt the main problem with the reboot was that they got an actor in a role that called for them to shine through the make up but due to his lack of skill he was lost in it all
@@senhazey1020 it was a lack of everything, should have never made a reboot in the first place... hellboy 2 left more than enough to make a third movie smh
I'll say this, Kroenen's SS armor at the beginning of the movie was awesome looking. Character himself, as a person, is a real POS, but he gets points for cool armor (his armor in this fight sucked though).
Makes sense, Hellboy's fought a lot of things that can come back from getting impaled or killed- so he made sure he *stayed* down there. A proper professional in the field as usual.
Thing is tho I don't think it would have worked story wise if I remember and please correct me if I am wrong I don't think there was much stuff to do about the Occult and the supernatural it was more mechanized than spiritual I think it would break that story if they didn't have supernatural and demonology stuff in the beginning of Wolfenstein 1 and then you try to bring it into Wolfenstein 2 it would be confusing the only one I remember that had supernatural things was Wolfenstein the Old Blood with the zombies if they continued that in 1 and 2 it would have made sense and been awesome to see
@@RobbyBoy2000 yea maybe if they do another prequel we could get a kronen like character I mean the supersoldaten look to have atleast been inspired by him in the earlier games atleast
Ron Perlman owned this character man. The detail on the first 2 hellboys were masterful. And, can we say the makeup on hellboy is awesome. Still holds up today.
Spawn yes! Especially all three! One wise cracking demon boy trying to find his place in the world, one stunt man trying to control his curse, and one ex assassin trying to get his humanity and his family back who also must deal with his literal sins everyday! Give em hell boys!
3:05 what sells this scene is that after the heartfelt moment, both characters quickly look away awkwardly because of the "unmanliness" of a moment like that. Then their eyes settle on the pit, arguably a thing for them to feel "manly" about having just defeated Kronen
My biggest what if here is... What if Kroenen chipped away too much of Hellboy's arms using his attacks that at the end of the movie Hellboy's hand can't be used as a key to Hell anymore? LOL
*Underrated? Hellboy?* That movie was a big success, and its popularity kept growing over the years. It's pretty much the exact opposite of underrated.
"What the hell is wrong with you?!" i get he's more of a desk and paper work guy but he can't seriously not be THAT ignorant to what happens in the field against BAD guys. But STILL the small bonding moment showing a turning point of them becoming friends was nice.
I can't say David Harbour did a bad job, I kinda liked the reboot, but Ron P is always gonna be my Hellboy, loved these films, can watch them anytime 🤘
Who’s here in 2024! After seeing the trailer for Hellboy: The Crooked Man (which looks awful) I’ve been on a Hellboy kick and yes I think I finally can admit, Ron Perlman is the best Hellboy.
this film was so good. Films will never be this good again. Hell Boy 2 was also great but there's just something about this film that is permanently memorable. Especially Manning telling Hell Boy to light his cigars with a match and not his huge lighter. It seems inconsequential but it really is a huge boon for both characters coming to a mutual understanding. It's also really good advice :)
I've never gone from being super annoyed with a person to loving them so quickly. Manning being all whiny and then teaching Hellboy how to light a cigar is priceless.
@@markzilla6895 and as seen in the animated comic epilogue from said sequels special edition, kroenens head was removed afterwards, and revived, with rasputins ghost appearing as well
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I love this scene because Hellboy does the one thing that they never do in any movie: when entering a room, he looks around and then looks up
I guess dealing with the paranormal all the time some people learn.
Situational awareness. Love it.
@@danielocean2665 exactly! He is half demon and half man after all!
To be fair, most of the time in movies when the threat is above and they fail to look up, it's because the people entering the room are used to normal threats, IE checking corners for bad guys with guns and not crazy paranormal ceiling-hiding baddies. By contrast Hellboy is used to the weird shit.
@@BDNeon I mean, it isn't like the room couldn't have a balcony or catwalk or second story or anything, right?
This is such a great interaction between the two characters, Hellboy and Manning; they've been antagonistic the entire movie and then at the end of this mutual fight Manning offers sincere advice instead of being a shit.
Yeah. It's a shame that in sequel their relationship looks like this scene (even first movie) never happened.
@@miloszszyja666 the two probably had a falling out because manning still takes his job way too damn seriously and figured his position still entitled him to being able to boss hellboy around
It's also a great moment because Hellboy always hid his smoking from his father, in Hellboy 1 he was kind of a child in terms of his personality, hiding his smoking like a delinquent teen. Now, in this moment, he gets to meet with a sort of 'father figure' (even an authoritative one) as an equal, and receive advice about something he enjoys. It's a nice bit of closure to their interaction with each other. They respect and understand one another now
Ya i thought it was very sophisticated
They earned each others respect.
Not only that, it's fatherly advice.
I don’t think anyone could play Hellboy better than Ron Pearlman. He has the perfect attitude.
He was better than David Harbour
@@guypeate3628 We don't talk about that monstrosity of a film
*perlman*
@@CronksNewBrothel Did you seriously comment on a 2 year old comment just to tell me that?
@@spencerbrackett2435 cry about it
this entire scene is just beautiful
- Kroenen listen to classical music
- Hellboy got his revenge
- Manning act like a normal up standing civilian, got slash and literally just ask :"what wrong with you"
- Manning actually give us the world greatest advice on how to smoke a cigar
- The bond between Manning and Hellboy is not just boss and employee
this is why i love del Toro Hellboy, he approach it like an actually comic adaptation ( cheesy line, character act like they are in another episode of the show ) rather than go full on superhero movie
I only smoke during new years eve
And the way I smoke cigars is from this movie.
I find it odd but nice
I totally agree with you
@@MrDwarfpitcher back in the days when movies were both entertaining and educational.
especially when you look at the second movie and notice that Hellboy is using wooden matches for his cigars still.
Maning being forced into the field gave him actual appreciation of what Hellboy did and an understanding that doing it clean and by the book, especially fighting these supernatural things, is a detriment to doing the job.
He becomes more of a humanizing factor for Hellboy and Hellboy gives him perspective on with the things out there, things like him are necessary.
“HEY WHAT WRONG WITH YOU! “ gets me every time like bruh have you not watched the last half of your movie. Evil gonna evil ya know
He’s also the head guy to a secret paranormal defense agency. Like no shit the scary gas mask man is gonna try to hurt you.
@@youknowwhatever8649 ikr? I fucking hate hate it when scriptwriters make their characters fucking morons. Idiotic scriptwriting
He's the character of the movie. Of course he ain't gonna watch it.
@@angelinadash2396 "oh whoops! Pardon me...I actually meant to kill you"
Evil gonna evil ya know. Lmao alright that was funny.
I always light my cigars this way because of this film.
There are specific lighters for that now that dont use butane which ruins the flavor
@@solidmoon8266 (Hellboy voice) Thank you.
I spark my blunts this way
I always used a lighter on my cigars. I'll try lightning one with a match next time thanks hellboy movie.
I use matches when there is no wind and yes it does preserve the flavor
That moment when Kroenen is pulled closer, knows he's about to take a beating, and sounds out, "uh oh," priceless.
I've seen this movie 100 times and I've never noticed that lmao
I heard “oh crap”
His raspy laughing and voice is perfect for the character, I love how they portrayed him in this movie. I only wish they had recorded the soprano version of Kroenen’s lied
Never noticed that
The head cock at 1:22 took me out 😂
"My name is Hell boy, you killed my father, prepare to die".
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, your ass is mine"
@Joseph Mercel Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I literally thought the same thing
"I want my father back, you son of a bitch!"
Loooooove yooooooouuuu
Thing is, given Kroenen's physiology, he probably didn't die; but he's now permanently stuck in that pit forever.
@@notgedd And he deserves every last eternal second of it.
With sand for blood? You’d just make him tougher and meaner
@Unabashed Hedonist Are you with the covenant?
They did have his mask in the second film.
@@royalanempire2965 wen wuz this?
Okay, but you do have to admit that this is the moment when Manning showed us that he actually does deserve his position.
A psychotic zombie Nazi with dust for blood who looks like a store mannequin from Hell swings a sword at him, and Manning acts like he just cut in line at the bank.
That's why I was so pissed about how the made him in the second one. They took this guy and turned him into a groveling sycophant.
"Manning"?
@@jollygoodfellow3957 The guy in this scene who isn't a demon or clockwork nazi.
@@jollygoodfellow3957 Jeffrey Tambor's character.
I don't know. If a crazy situation like that happens to me I might be reacting the same way just because I wouldn't know how to react.
The second-best "revenge for my father" quote in all of fiction.
The first wood be you killed my father prepare to die
@@noahsmith4877 Of course!
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die."
1:21
Who do you guys think is a tougher mini boss in Hellboy universe, Kroenen or the Sammael?
2:45 this one scene has more charisma and charm than the entirety of the reboot movie
I felt the main problem with the reboot was that they got an actor in a role that called for them to shine through the make up but due to his lack of skill he was lost in it all
@@Lawcoom ik its an old reply, but I personally don’t think it was the lack of skill, but the lack of a good script :/
@@senhazey1020 it was a lack of everything, should have never made a reboot in the first place... hellboy 2 left more than enough to make a third movie smh
I know
He stole his lighter
It’s really amazing how much emotion that Pearlman can portray so well while being so heavily padded and made up with prosthetics
Mutual respect earned from both of them. You love to see it.
And yes, Ron Pearlman was born for this role.
No-one better
Should have made the threequal
And then the sequel acted like this never happened
Well, when Del Toro and Mike Mignola basically said who they wanted as Hellboy, they both said Ron Perlman at the same time to each other.
Those are the most sincere "Thank You" 's that I've ever heard... underrated scene for sure
It’s kind of charming, that whole last interaction. It made me smile just now and I’m not like some mega fan or something. It’s just well done.
When Manning gets a fucking blade swung at him, I love his reaction to being more pissed than terrified.
I'll say this, Kroenen's SS armor at the beginning of the movie was awesome looking. Character himself, as a person, is a real POS, but he gets points for cool armor (his armor in this fight sucked though).
Yeah, it looked perfect for him and what he represented.
Hugo Boss
Idk how, but Nazi did have an amazing sense of fashion, all of their outfits look dope.
That's not armor that was a uniform
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I feel like the ending victory cigar isn't given enough love. It's so simple, but it's a great man-to-man forgiveness scene. Love it.
It's a great scene, a gem of a scene.
Somebody falling onto to Spikes is a Cliche; BUT somebody throwing something heavy on top of somebody who has fallen on Spikes is genius.
Makes sense, Hellboy's fought a lot of things that can come back from getting impaled or killed- so he made sure he *stayed* down there. A proper professional in the field as usual.
For a 107 years old war veteran, Kroenen is in great shape!
Not any more!
*1:34** You know something is wrong when a villain laughs after being hurt by the hero.*
Hellboy: 1:37
God the match and the cigar scene. Even though they hated eachother he still taught HellBoy something new
I kinda wish Kroenen was a boss in Wolfenstein or Wolfenstein 2, he would have made the game interesting.
Thing is tho I don't think it would have worked story wise if I remember and please correct me if I am wrong I don't think there was much stuff to do about the Occult and the supernatural it was more mechanized than spiritual I think it would break that story if they didn't have supernatural and demonology stuff in the beginning of Wolfenstein 1 and then you try to bring it into Wolfenstein 2 it would be confusing the only one I remember that had supernatural things was Wolfenstein the Old Blood with the zombies if they continued that in 1 and 2 it would have made sense and been awesome to see
@@RobbyBoy2000 it would work for a prequel like the old blood as that had a more occult focused plot for it
@@themangledwither I agree would have loved to see kroenen in Wolfenstein
@@RobbyBoy2000 yea maybe if they do another prequel we could get a kronen like character I mean the supersoldaten look to have atleast been inspired by him in the earlier games atleast
@@themangledwither that would be insane I would buy that instantly
1:21 I love how Kroenen turns his head to the side as if he's taunting Hellboy about his Father.
Love how manning just screams "what's wrong with you?!" after he attacks him lmao
I guess the villain did nazi it coming.
Very Holocaust Joke you made there
🦗
Good one 😱😆
Nicee
@Overlord B that joke is extremely overused and unfunny Anne Frankly in poor taste
They finish off sharing how to properly light a cigar. Absolute perfection.
Ron Perlman owned this character man. The detail on the first 2 hellboys were masterful. And, can we say the makeup on hellboy is awesome. Still holds up today.
Such great movies - Pearlman is just the mutts nuts. Second movie obviously had a bigger budget than first but was not necessarily better.
Imagine hellboy and ghost rider teaming up against evil forces.. that would be so cool..
Or what about spawn😱
Or hellboy, ghostrider, spawn , dr strange and blade
If that happened all of hell and even the devil himself would be shaking in their boots
Spawn yes! Especially all three! One wise cracking demon boy trying to find his place in the world, one stunt man trying to control his curse, and one ex assassin trying to get his humanity and his family back who also must deal with his literal sins everyday! Give em hell boys!
@@crazyrunt298 what about the Doom Slayer
3:05 what sells this scene is that after the heartfelt moment, both characters quickly look away awkwardly because of the "unmanliness" of a moment like that.
Then their eyes settle on the pit, arguably a thing for them to feel "manly" about having just defeated Kronen
@1:17 that scene was so satisfying to watch
You really can’t beat hellboy. Such a classic movie. Great effects and amazing acting.
1:30
The way Kroenen is laughing is just so damn sinister..
Uses a match to “preserve the flavor”, but doesn’t wait the 1-second for the lighting-agent to burn off....
1:21 right after he said that, I honest to god thought he was gonna say "prepare to die"
Same thing either way.
I really do love those moment at the end, with the cigar. It's a really excellent payoff to the rapport the team built between these two characters.
"Preserves the flavor you see." *Love this scene!*
0:58 - Assuming Kroenen is going all-out here, Hellboy is parrying attacks from a guy who's fast enough to deflect bullets
0:54 i wish this were every movie character's response to their villains
1:16
It sounds like the guy said: "uh-oh"
More like aw Man
My biggest what if here is...
What if Kroenen chipped away too much of Hellboy's arms using his attacks that at the end of the movie Hellboy's hand can't be used as a key to Hell anymore?
LOL
Nah, his arm is indestructible. The chipping was purely for visual effect.
Rasputin would have brought him back just to kill him over and over again for that fuck up lmao
The stone of his arm, like the rest of him, regenerates. It is why he has to constantly shave his horns.
He was blocking the blows with the portion of his wrist above the hand itself, so his hand was unaffected
*Got cut by a spike*
Manning: ouch... hey it really went deep
*Gets slashed by Kroenen*
Manning: hey, Hey what's wrong with you?!
Damn. And in "Golden Army", manning almost let Hell boy just die. Crazy character switch up.
Because he chose the world safety over Hellboy
The way he just disappears from his chair when hellboy looks back lol
“Don’t even think about…” most anime line in live action ever man….
Always loved the thank u line.. u could tell he really appreciated that tip.. and he appreciated his advice was truly valued for once..
Man! I forget how great these hellboy movies were.
1:10
"Alright, listen here, you shit."
Karl Kroenen: The worst part is I'm still alive.
Ron Perlman is brilliant
a massively massively underrated movie. look at all those details. they were made with love. something disney has forgotten to do in the last decade
*Underrated? Hellboy?* That movie was a big success, and its popularity kept growing over the years.
It's pretty much the exact opposite of underrated.
@randallflagg3700 , that implies its overrated, which I think it's perfectly rated.
I'm glad Hellboy avenged his father.
Hellboy: “What are you laughing about?”
Kroenen: “You’re standing on the rancor pit!”
Pulls lever…
For some reason i really love the cigar bit.
I like how soft Ron Perlman makes Hellboy sound. One wouldn’t expect it from him, based on his appearance, but it fits so well.
Guillermo del Toro is an absolute artist and this movie will be a classic in lockstep with The Wizard of Oz.
"Hey HEY WHATS WRONG WITH YOU" got me dying laughing😂
Love how he lights the cigar while the phosphorus or whatever it is is still burning to “preserve the flavor”
thats why you do the lil shaky shaky justa fter you light it. It dusts off.
Ron Perlman's Hellboy is a masterpiece compared to the reboot.
It's a masterpiece, regardless
Fun fact, that guy is immortal and still alive, as he is described as "Not being able to die anymore"
I loved the scene 2:42 - it's what made their bond
Love this scene manning actually began liking hellboy after he saved his life.
2:43 I didn't realise it before, but he stole hellboy's lighter
One of the best 'bonding' moments in film.
Bruh his 5second sword style made him loose 1:56
Ron Perlman is the best hellboy hands down no question
This scene is far superior than the film story itself. Made by skillful actors, for the improvement of the film.
There's no one can replace Ron Peralman as Hellboy.
When I was a kid I would watch hellboy, but there where scenes that did scare me though.
I’m guessing that one buried mummy dude Ivan
It’s supposed to be scary, the series take inspiration from LoveCraft
@@gfrancisco8870 yeah Ivan is a scary guy, I would not stand a chance with him. He scard me wen I was a kid and he scares me now.
Same!
Hellboy 2 the only movie that could make the tooth fairy scary
1:16 i dont know why but i kinda hear kroenen saying aw man
"What the hell is wrong with you?!" i get he's more of a desk and paper work guy but he can't seriously not be THAT ignorant to what happens in the field against BAD guys. But STILL the small bonding moment showing a turning point of them becoming friends was nice.
2:28
The rubber on Hellboy's massive forearm flexing. 🤫
Damn nice eye dawg 💀
I bet these two became the best of friends after the fight and cigar moment.
One of the best comic book movies ever made
Always love how it sounds like Kroenen says uh oh right before he gets clocked in the face repeatedly.
I started to smoke by using matches from then 😂 keep the flavor
Does it work?
Let the sulfur burn off first, or use a spill.
How many cigars do you think he went through in the film
Yes.
3?
Enough
Enough
What an epic movie was this one...great cinematography
Jacked Hellboy's lighter for saying thankyou back Lol! I always loved that part lol
This is actually where I learned how to properly light a cigar
dont smoke it causes cancer
I can't say David Harbour did a bad job, I kinda liked the reboot, but Ron P is always gonna be my Hellboy, loved these films, can watch them anytime 🤘
02:50 when my hommie know im angry and i Need smoke green :3
I really miss these character moments in today's super hero movies. I feel like we are losing that humanity.
David harbor will never be my hellboy, only this man will
Night and day isn't it - Pearlman was perfectly cast, no question
i do not give a damn waht people say, this version of hellboy is just amazing!
But everyone loves this version of Hellboy... it's not like you have a controversial opinion or something.
A shame that Mignola is jealous of Del Toro and does not allow him to finish his trilogy.
Who’s here in 2024! After seeing the trailer for Hellboy: The Crooked Man (which looks awful) I’ve been on a Hellboy kick and yes I think I finally can admit, Ron Perlman is the best Hellboy.
this film was so good. Films will never be this good again. Hell Boy 2 was also great but there's just something about this film that is permanently memorable. Especially Manning telling Hell Boy to light his cigars with a match and not his huge lighter. It seems inconsequential but it really is a huge boon for both characters coming to a mutual understanding. It's also really good advice :)
I've never gone from being super annoyed with a person to loving them so quickly. Manning being all whiny and then teaching Hellboy how to light a cigar is priceless.
Hellboy actually says "BOOM!" for the final punch that sends Kroenen careening into the wall, like he sometimes does in the comics.
Practical effects are the BEST effects!
this was a great character arc for them bonding over a cigar
2:51 god that is so wholesome-
I always appreciated Rudy Guiliani's acting chops in this movie.
Looks like he got the point 🤣
Get out😂
Archibald NO!
Yes 😂
Well I find his wit is quite......sharp.
I'd say his drink might have been... Spiked
The remake had ZERO chance to measure up to these 2 MASTERPIECES!!!!...
First one especially - they just nailed it
At 2:33 there are a few frames where you can see him holding the gear above his head while the actual gear is falling at the camera.
No, that was just another gear attached to the ceiling.
Should've yanked his mask off
Would've been the ultimate insult to Kroenen
Nah. It's best not to. He killed the fucker who killed his father and didn't take his mask off cause he like bashed it right into Kroenen's skull.
They still confiscated it as seen in the sequel
@@markzilla6895 and as seen in the animated comic epilogue from said sequels special edition, kroenens head was removed afterwards, and revived, with rasputins ghost appearing as well
Love the cigar touch at the end
3:00 *thank you* 🚬
Thank YOU.