@love letter Fr dude, I don't pop my bearings but I was skating a set of Reds for over a year when they died, cleaned them and left the shields off and they gave me another 2 months. Now I'm spinning Big Balls, def better than reds.
Best way to describe spacers is like your fingers holding a fidget spinner, you hold it in the middle, making it fixed, and allow the balls on the inside of the bearing to do all the job like they are supposed to.If you take of the spacers and crank your wheel, the bearings are gonna get squished inside and the wheel will work like a brake, stopping the bearing.
But that's normally why skaters DON'T crank their Axle bolt down too tight. Because the wheel will stop or slow down, spacer or not. Maybe that's what he ment. Your wheel will still keep ROTATING if you tighten your axle bolt down. But that's what the WASHERS not the spacer is for. Thoes are two different things.
Yes, but like having two (2) fidget spinners in hand that are not both evenly centered with each on axle inside the wheel. You put them in they don’t, “line up” dead center perfect fit; do remain stay in place after wheel nut is in, but not centered perfectly, or aligned with each other perfectly. They do prevent crushing the bearings though.
Rog....you da man!! Most of us get nothing for for free so we gotta “take care of our shiit”. ;) Put the bearing spacers in!! I didn’t do it for years and then few years ago started to and it’s exactly what Rog said....it’s then all one piece and much stronger/reliable.
I got into a discussion about bearing spacers with a dude who worked for a roller hockey shop for like an hour around like 2016, and he told me there not gunna do much because urethane actually has give and moves you dont necesarily want to stop all that with a spacer, people didnt even think of using them on wheels for hockey but ive noticed now i see some spacers made for roller hockey wheels, wich is kind of weird, its definitly a flavor of the month thing because ive noticed it became a hott topic for both hockey and skating around the same time, i mean you go back prior to 2018 literally nobody used bearing spacers. Im pretty sure there some autobahn slims out there that spacers straight up dont even fit inside, and ur bearings would be actually pushed outward if you used the spacers, ive also seen the opposite where the spacers seemed to small and wiggled back n fourth inside the wheel. Ive tried with and without, and its literally made no difference in anything but sound.
I’m just a trash skateboarder but for me, riser pads help my pop a lot! Helps me level out the board easier as well. For less then $10 I think everyone should try one set in their life
Professor Schmidt has talked about this. It's 100% false and actually lowers your leveled out pop. If you just suck at skating and think risers help, do you bro. But it's false and a dude with a doctorate even agrees. 😂😂
Hey CROB just a reminder that the difference between a 52mm and 53mm wheel is only .5mm difference in board height a 54mm is 1mm higher than a 52mm because you have 1mm on the top and 1mm on the bottom of the wheel just wanted to put that out there for all the tech skateboard nerds lol
Torey's face from 5:13 onward while Rog is talking about bearing spaces is SO suspicious. Even a little menacing...haha. It don't look like he's buying the spacer explanation!
I rock 6 speedrings on each truck... which breaks down like this... per axle side, I have 2 speedrings on the inside of the wheel and 1 on the outter. It helps center the wheel on the axle so when you screw down your wheel nut it sits flush with the axle end... which helps prevent the axle from mushrooming. And technically gives you an extra 2mm truck grinding width area which the two addition inside sppedrings
so whats pudwills wheelbase with a 1" shorter deck? i ride 7.75" deck for the 13.9" wb and i can go up to a 14" wb with a 8.25" deck i normally ride tensor mag light high atg trucks but anything over a 14" wb have to use ace trucks to give me that shorter wb. #savethespacer the spacer has to be tighten all the way down for the spacers to work. i with bones made their l2 swiss bearings that have 2 sheilds on the bearings to keep dirt out! my bearings with 2 covers stay cleaner longer than any of my bearings that only come with one side. love that bronsons come with sheilds on both sides.
I’m guessing his WB can’t be much shorter than 13.75” or any longer than 14” max. Before modification the board is an inch longer , probably 14.25 WB, after mod prob 14” or just under that. Not clear if it’s evenly shorter (or just one kick shorter)-probably a 1/2” from nose and tail (hence why he bumped up to an 8.25 with longer tail to make his tailslide trick easier that they mentioned).
@@guyfromthatthing1017 he says his board is an inch shorter than a normal 8 which would end up being 30.75" long for the deck. You either have to have smaller nose and tail, or shorter flats of finger which would be bringing in the wheelbase.
5:53. , If you want to get technical, the spacer sits flush with the inner ring of the bearing case, ( what the bearings sit in) , so if you get axle slip. It won't have any effect on your bearings. Because the axle nut isn't pressed against the bearing itself. Its pressed against the spacer, which is basically thr same diameter of the inner bearing case, or close to it. So the bearings will still move freely. Of course you dont want the axle slip and you still want to tap the truck back to even it out because if not. The axle slippage will cause friction and friction causes HEAT. Heat will burn your bearings up. If they get hot enough, they will literally pop out of the casing BECAUSE AND ALSO, HEAT EXPANDs METAL. Hell heat expands almost everything. AIR, ALINUIMM ETC ETC
Idk I’ve tried it with both spacers and without. If i tightened it too much it would still make it slow down. If my bearings come with spacers I’ll throw em in there, if not I won’t put any, havnt noticed any difference either way.
Does anyone else think most of these board companies are blowing it by not selling the pros chosen shapes? I reckon there would be a market for the traditional shapes and wheelbases and the pro’s shapes as well. If it works for them surely some of us would benefit!
Joshua Dunmore ive always wondered what do these pros with custom shapes do if they are in another country, break their board, and need a new one to get a clip at a spot. They can't go to a local skate shop because they dont sale their custom made deck. So now what?
They should release the same shape and spec and which board number off the press they like to us. least have a off the shelves and a exact pro deck public could try and get
It’s is odd. The skaters feel like it’s “too important and secretive info” to give away. But at the end of the day they would make so much more money if they did. If you’re a true pro who is above the rest, then someone else having your same shape shouldn’t matter.
I used to catch do much shit for using the spacers. I didn't know the science behind it, I just knew they were there for a reason. Lol. So use em to this day. 🤘🏼
Toreys board would be around 30.5 inches long or less; a normal size 8 length would be 31.25, or even 31.5 and a size 8.25 board or wider would be 32 inches or longer
I buy that theory. Makes sense. WB on his modded board prob sitting between 13.75 and 14”; those venture highs technically “extend” the WB; but his modded board apparently he gets that longitudinal stability and can huck & flip at (pud)will
@@derekmclaughlin1394 an 1/8th of an inch is one sheet of plywood add up it's an inch of extra screw base plates are also two and 1/8th inch thick. Kingpin nuts are 5/8ths of an inch so 4/8ths or a half inch of screw throws a whole truck overboard or off tilt. There are 7 Sheetz of ply on a board not 8..
@@typerightseesight well I DO! And im sure most do care. But maybe because im one of the little shops and most of my customers or locals and we are use to one another. I've never seen anyone care about there bolt size. Even the longboarders or old school cruiser board guys that like to have 2in thick risers would still have the size bolts they needed. BUT! You are correct. Your local shop SHOULD care. And the best way to get them to do so is to BE A REGULAR and bug the HELL out of them about carrying the stuff you like. You support them, they should support you. Good luck and be safe out there homie.
Don’t most if not all wheels have a limit to how far the bearing can go in anyway? I have a set up with & without spacers and I can’t tell the difference lol
Brandon Gullaba YES!!! The little .5 in (....or however deep it is) bearing seat on both sides of your skate wheels keeps the bearings separated. Most spacers aren't even long enough to reach and touch each bearing when you put them in.
Hobo Shop rated PG-13 right, even more leverage to not use spacers. Eventually my bearings start to shimmy outwards anyways and I have to push them back in when wheels get worn down, doesn’t seem like something a spacer helps.
Brandon Gullaba you must power slide and revert a lot. Only suggestion I have for that is, make sure your bearings are evenly pressed inside your wheels. You can check this by after placeing your bearings in. holding your wheel in the middle with your thumb and finger and spin it like a figgit spinner. If it wobbles they are pressed in completely even. Or use a manual bearing presser (most skateboard shops have them). That should help prevent that problem from happening so much.
Hobo Shop rated PG-13 many reverts haha. I already ride with the nut pretty tight with just a hair of space for the wheel to move, eventually the wheels will just get tight from the bearings coming forward and I just push the wheel against the nut and axel of my truck to get them back into place hahah
I use the washers spacers and bearing shields.. taking the shields off is the new trendy shit I just don't really get.. maybe I'll try some shuv it's.. but I think it's just a trend somebody who cleaned them and was too lazy to put them back together did
It’s definitely not, “new” considering we were doing it in the early 90s, and people doing it before us in the 80s on their old school pigs. The theory is dirt gets in but it also gets out easier. I used to take them off. I do not anymore.
bullshit, spacers allow the bearing to roll like it's supposed to, on the balls, not on the axel. Spacers act like your finger holding a fidget spinner.
@@natfingerboard the little balls are INSIDE the bearings caseing . And the bearings don't even touch the spacers. The bearing seat that's cut into or placed inside of the wheels keeps the bearings from getting pushed to close together. you can LITERALLY see this! Put on bearing into a skate wheel. Then place a spacer inside. Then place the other bearing into the other side of the wheel. Now hold the wheel up and look into the hole of it. If you can't see through a perfect circle because of a curved line in the middle of the hole. THAT'S BECAUSE THE SPACER HOLE ISN'T ALIGNED WITH THE BEARING HOLES. Now there are some bearings that have a spacer built onto them. But once again it's pointless to have that because skate wheels have a stopping point. And you can't push a bearing through a wheel past that point.
I buy that! They don’t sit flush on the axle nor flush with each other inside the wheel. They only prevent crush to the bearings when the wheel nut is tightened
Lol “i just keep it tradish dude”
😂
Best pudwill comment of all time.
I love that Rog always shits on popping the shields xD
I'm totally with him, oil and dirt don't mix!!!
@love letter Fr dude, I don't pop my bearings but I was skating a set of Reds for over a year when they died, cleaned them and left the shields off and they gave me another 2 months. Now I'm spinning Big Balls, def better than reds.
A lot of pros wash the oil out, raw bearings spin just as well, and dirt and grime don’t stick in them cause no lube
Board Setups 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Thank you Roger for keeping it real with bearing spacers and covers.
Best way to describe spacers is like your fingers holding a fidget spinner, you hold it in the middle, making it fixed, and allow the balls on the inside of the bearing to do all the job like they are supposed to.If you take of the spacers and crank your wheel, the bearings are gonna get squished inside and the wheel will work like a brake, stopping the bearing.
But that's normally why skaters DON'T crank their Axle bolt down too tight. Because the wheel will stop or slow down, spacer or not.
Maybe that's what he ment. Your wheel will still keep ROTATING if you tighten your axle bolt down.
But that's what the WASHERS not the spacer is for.
Thoes are two different things.
@@POPtheHOBO no, that's what the spacers are for
Yes, but like having two (2) fidget spinners in hand that are not both evenly centered with each on axle inside the wheel. You put them in they don’t, “line up” dead center perfect fit; do remain stay in place after wheel nut is in, but not centered perfectly, or aligned with each other perfectly. They do prevent crushing the bearings though.
But only if you're axles cranked down.
Rog....you da man!! Most of us get nothing for for free so we gotta “take care of our shiit”. ;) Put the bearing spacers in!! I didn’t do it for years and then few years ago started to and it’s exactly what Rog said....it’s then all one piece and much stronger/reliable.
love letter not cranked super tight. Just snug that’s all. Search “skateboard bearings” and you’ll find a vid that explains its pretty good.
Snugged up with spacers, stealthy no rattle, and that pop sound and feel is unbeatable.
I got into a discussion about bearing spacers with a dude who worked for a roller hockey shop for like an hour around like 2016, and he told me there not gunna do much because urethane actually has give and moves you dont necesarily want to stop all that with a spacer, people didnt even think of using them on wheels for hockey but ive noticed now i see some spacers made for roller hockey wheels, wich is kind of weird, its definitly a flavor of the month thing because ive noticed it became a hott topic for both hockey and skating around the same time, i mean you go back prior to 2018 literally nobody used bearing spacers. Im pretty sure there some autobahn slims out there that spacers straight up dont even fit inside, and ur bearings would be actually pushed outward if you used the spacers, ive also seen the opposite where the spacers seemed to small and wiggled back n fourth inside the wheel. Ive tried with and without, and its literally made no difference in anything but sound.
Rodger loves that speed cream💀
Toreys reaction at 6:14 lol
😂😂
As an engineer he is 100 % right always use the spacer x
Not for skate wheels.
Hobo Shop rated PG-13 what for then?
John Samson BecAuSe iT ADds WEiGhT!!!
John Samson because the spacers don't keep the bearings from touching.
Urban Umbra what they SUPPOSED to be used for is to keep the bearings evenly spaced apart. But skate wheels are designed to do that already.
Ventures are that good , never have to change the bushings.
I’m just a trash skateboarder but for me, riser pads help my pop a lot! Helps me level out the board easier as well. For less then $10 I think everyone should try one set in their life
Get Indys. They’re like a Thunder on a riser that turn better.
Always use risers
What size wheels and boards are y’all using??
It’s all in your head.
Professor Schmidt has talked about this. It's 100% false and actually lowers your leveled out pop. If you just suck at skating and think risers help, do you bro. But it's false and a dude with a doctorate even agrees. 😂😂
Hey CROB just a reminder that the difference between a 52mm and 53mm wheel is only .5mm difference in board height a 54mm is 1mm higher than a 52mm because you have 1mm on the top and 1mm on the bottom of the wheel just wanted to put that out there for all the tech skateboard nerds lol
Torey's face from 5:13 onward while Rog is talking about bearing spaces is SO suspicious. Even a little menacing...haha. It don't look like he's buying the spacer explanation!
He just makes weird faces haha
I rock 6 speedrings on each truck... which breaks down like this... per axle side, I have 2 speedrings on the inside of the wheel and 1 on the outter. It helps center the wheel on the axle so when you screw down your wheel nut it sits flush with the axle end... which helps prevent the axle from mushrooming. And technically gives you an extra 2mm truck grinding width area which the two addition inside sppedrings
Same dude! Love it
Me three!
so whats pudwills wheelbase with a 1" shorter deck? i ride 7.75" deck for the 13.9" wb and i can go up to a 14" wb with a 8.25" deck i normally ride tensor mag light high atg trucks but anything over a 14" wb have to use ace trucks to give me that shorter wb. #savethespacer the spacer has to be tighten all the way down for the spacers to work. i with bones made their l2 swiss bearings that have 2 sheilds on the bearings to keep dirt out! my bearings with 2 covers stay cleaner longer than any of my bearings that only come with one side. love that bronsons come with sheilds on both sides.
I’m guessing his WB can’t be much shorter than 13.75” or any longer than 14” max. Before modification the board is an inch longer , probably 14.25 WB, after mod prob 14” or just under that. Not clear if it’s evenly shorter (or just one kick shorter)-probably a 1/2” from nose and tail (hence why he bumped up to an 8.25 with longer tail to make his tailslide trick easier that they mentioned).
@@guyfromthatthing1017 he says his board is an inch shorter than a normal 8 which would end up being 30.75" long for the deck. You either have to have smaller nose and tail, or shorter flats of finger which would be bringing in the wheelbase.
I love these Chris keep them coming!!! GET CURREN CAPLES ON THE SHOW NEXT!!!
5:53. , If you want to get technical, the spacer sits flush with the inner ring of the bearing case, ( what the bearings sit in) , so if you get axle slip.
It won't have any effect on your bearings.
Because the axle nut isn't pressed against the bearing itself. Its pressed against the spacer, which is basically thr same diameter of the inner bearing case, or close to it.
So the bearings will still move freely.
Of course you dont want the axle slip and you still want to tap the truck back to even it out because if not. The axle slippage will cause friction and friction causes HEAT. Heat will burn your bearings up. If they get hot enough, they will literally pop out of the casing BECAUSE AND ALSO, HEAT EXPANDs METAL. Hell heat expands almost everything. AIR, ALINUIMM ETC ETC
Idk I’ve tried it with both spacers and without. If i tightened it too much it would still make it slow down. If my bearings come with spacers I’ll throw em in there, if not I won’t put any, havnt noticed any difference either way.
The scene from scary movie when doofey comes out with the vacuum cleaner. "I told you dont disturb me when im cleaning my bearings" lol
Espacers for life!!!
Does anyone else think most of these board companies are blowing it by not selling the pros chosen shapes? I reckon there would be a market for the traditional shapes and wheelbases and the pro’s shapes as well. If it works for them surely some of us would benefit!
Joshua Dunmore ive always wondered what do these pros with custom shapes do if they are in another country, break their board, and need a new one to get a clip at a spot.
They can't go to a local skate shop because they dont sale their custom made deck. So now what?
Hobo Shop rated PG-13 also a valid point! Until Professor Schmidt came on and more pro’s have been talking about these shapes I had no idea.
They should release the same shape and spec and which board number off the press they like to us. least have a off the shelves and a exact pro deck public could try and get
It’s is odd. The skaters feel like it’s “too important and secretive info” to give away. But at the end of the day they would make so much more money if they did. If you’re a true pro who is above the rest, then someone else having your same shape shouldn’t matter.
Roger knows. Use your spacers
I always used the spacers. Also Rog's right arm is bigger from all the bearing cleaning 🤣
Roger “whatever” Bagley 😂
kelly (HAHAHAAAA)rt
max clarke Torey “tradish” Pudwill
Most annoying thing is when you drop and lose a spacer, but i always see them around benches at skateparks.
Dude I love finding those! I see em all the time. Brand new alot of the time, because skaters always discard them.
Rog layin' down the law! LOL
I used to catch do much shit for using the spacers. I didn't know the science behind it, I just knew they were there for a reason. Lol. So use em to this day. 🤘🏼
Cleaning the bearings 🤣🤣
Some bearings won’t even let you pop the shields off anymore!
Toreys board would be around 30.5 inches long or less; a normal size 8 length would be 31.25, or even 31.5 and a size 8.25 board or wider would be 32 inches or longer
I buy that theory. Makes sense. WB on his modded board prob sitting between 13.75 and 14”; those venture highs technically “extend” the WB; but his modded board apparently he gets that longitudinal stability and can huck & flip at (pud)will
I run bearing spacers and no covers, degreased in windex Bronson Ceramic. No oil on my wheels or shoes and no maintenance.
You guys need to get David Gonzalez on here for his setup
keep the good videos coming. love anything about actual skating not industry shit
Spacers for the wheels just cause less friction pretty much
spacers always!!!
I need 7/8ths inch hardware.. shops only carry one inch around here for some reason.
Literally makes 0 difference
@@derekmclaughlin1394 an 1/8th of an inch is one sheet of plywood add up it's an inch of extra screw base plates are also two and 1/8th inch thick. Kingpin nuts are 5/8ths of an inch so 4/8ths or a half inch of screw throws a whole truck overboard or off tilt. There are 7 Sheetz of ply on a board not 8..
Nelson Stack speaking for my shop. They are less of a hassle to deal with if someone wants to add riser pads.
@@POPtheHOBO which nobody does........ They just don't like carrying the correct sizes because they don't give a fuck about their customers
@@typerightseesight well I DO! And im sure most do care. But maybe because im one of the little shops and most of my customers or locals and we are use to one another. I've never seen anyone care about there bolt size. Even the longboarders or old school cruiser board guys that like to have 2in thick risers would still have the size bolts they needed.
BUT!
You are correct. Your local shop SHOULD care. And the best way to get them to do so is to BE A REGULAR and bug the HELL out of them about carrying the stuff you like.
You support them, they should support you.
Good luck and be safe out there homie.
Roger knows his shit! Listen to Rog. Rog is the man!
o shit, gotta use them spacers
Don’t most if not all wheels have a limit to how far the bearing can go in anyway? I have a set up with & without spacers and I can’t tell the difference lol
Brandon Gullaba YES!!! The little .5 in (....or however deep it is) bearing seat on both sides of your skate wheels keeps the bearings separated.
Most spacers aren't even long enough to reach and touch each bearing when you put them in.
Hobo Shop rated PG-13 right, even more leverage to not use spacers. Eventually my bearings start to shimmy outwards anyways and I have to push them back in when wheels get worn down, doesn’t seem like something a spacer helps.
Brandon Gullaba you must power slide and revert a lot. Only suggestion I have for that is, make sure your bearings are evenly pressed inside your wheels. You can check this by after placeing your bearings in. holding your wheel in the middle with your thumb and finger and spin it like a figgit spinner. If it wobbles they are pressed in completely even.
Or use a manual bearing presser (most skateboard shops have them).
That should help prevent that problem from happening so much.
Hobo Shop rated PG-13 many reverts haha. I already ride with the nut pretty tight with just a hair of space for the wheel to move, eventually the wheels will just get tight from the bearings coming forward and I just push the wheel against the nut and axel of my truck to get them back into place hahah
Brandon Gullaba lol. Well be safe out there big homie and good luck to you.
Yes use them spacers
LEYKIS 101 !!!
Word To Joey!
Burritos all day
I use the washers spacers and bearing shields.. taking the shields off is the new trendy shit I just don't really get.. maybe I'll try some shuv it's.. but I think it's just a trend somebody who cleaned them and was too lazy to put them back together did
Its not that new. I remember BAM was doing it back in the 2000's so naturally i did it too
It’s definitely not, “new” considering we were doing it in the early 90s, and people doing it before us in the 80s on their old school pigs. The theory is dirt gets in but it also gets out easier. I used to take them off. I do not anymore.
I like an 8.5 deck and 54mm wheels. I don’t know anything about trucks.
independent 149
thunder 149
venture 5.8
ace truck 55
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 all have axel 8.5inch
love letter sorry Im wrong information for this 😭 ace44 for 8.35 axle this brand not have 8.5 axle 🙏🏻
Please your board for sale Torrey! I loved your plan b shapes
I’m boutta clean my bearings
The thumbnail makes it looks like he's really going to break down some specs NOPE
why did u guys put a redbull next to the mic if he cant drink it ?🤣
Andale Torrey Pudwill
Good bearings advces from Roge! :)
I can say after 22 years of skating it doesn’t make a huge difference using spacers. The bearings work fine without them I promise haha
Are we talking about the washers that come on trucks or spacers that come with some bearings? Lol
Bearing spacers but I make sure I use the bearing spacers and washers..I never have a problem.weight isn't a problem
Wd40 will fuck ur bearings because it is water based but pb blaster is the same stuff but water based
Who tf cleans their bearings I just get new ones
I million percent agree. $20 Well worth it
Clean my Bearings all the time 💦🤣
If you dont use them the core will collapse and folk who aint getting them for free are out of pocket
I hear you , but then again we’re talking $30. Who cares
@@allstopblue5717 probably poor people who can't afford too
It’s almost if Emile Hirsch was a pro skateboarder.
THE SPACERS SLOWS THE ROTATION OF THE WHEEL DOWN!
Youbcan test this yourself when you set up your board.
bullshit, spacers allow the bearing to roll like it's supposed to, on the balls, not on the axel. Spacers act like your finger holding a fidget spinner.
@@natfingerboard the little balls are INSIDE the bearings caseing . And the bearings don't even touch the spacers. The bearing seat that's cut into or placed inside of the wheels keeps the bearings from getting pushed to close together.
you can LITERALLY see this! Put on bearing into a skate wheel. Then place a spacer inside. Then place the other bearing into the other side of the wheel. Now hold the wheel up and look into the hole of it. If you can't see through a perfect circle because of a curved line in the middle of the hole. THAT'S BECAUSE THE SPACER HOLE ISN'T ALIGNED WITH THE BEARING HOLES.
Now there are some bearings that have a spacer built onto them. But once again it's pointless to have that because skate wheels have a stopping point. And you can't push a bearing through a wheel past that point.
On a free-spin with your hands, sure it's slower... under load, it's a different story.
I buy that! They don’t sit flush on the axle nor flush with each other inside the wheel. They only prevent crush to the bearings when the wheel nut is tightened
The spacers don’t work.
Waste of money
They do if your wheel has a plastic core like the bones atfs, tighten them shits all the way down and it rolls smooth
Tin Man I will have to check them out
BarGauze usually they are free. Sometimes they come with bearings.
Tin Man hmmm, I haven't tested that theory yet but I will.
Rog literally said 7/8 hardware saves weight but clowns on "psychos" that don't use spacers to save weight 🤔
Something about torey I don't enjoy too too much. My opinion though. I don't know em enough to fully dislike.
Skate em till they snap or the board has no pop left then you cut that fucker into a cruiser deck haha roll forever
My mind is blown by how many pros skate 8" decks. That seems so small
All my landings were sketchy on an 8. An 8.25 has fixed that problem. All my tricks became more solid.
Roger can’t even talk.