1984 C10 Project ---- LS Swap Part 7-2 (BulkHead Wiring Part 2)
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Great videos, I often wondered how we connect the old wiring to the LS wiring glad I came across these videos. God Bless you sir
I'm in the middle of the same swap on an 84 Monte Carlo, and the bulkhead wiring is pretty much the same as your truck. Thanks a heap for the tips and getting me pointed in the right direction.
Thanks for your replay very helpful I want to do an LS swap on my ‘83 C10 step side I hope I’m not bugging with my questions I’m the same I can look at a video or manual and do the job myself you’re a wealth of informatiom🇺🇸
Thks Lonnie I was truly lost and this is a big time help to me , God bless you and thks again.
Thank you for sharing this info in a easy way to understand way, wiring baffles me. I'm going to wire my swap myself, since I've been quoted $500 to $750 just to wire it up!
Dime Fever did u wire it up yet?
You have no idea how much you just helped me sir I can’t say thanks enough! My confidence is through the roof now
Happy it helped.
@@LonniesGarage I need help Lonnie can you give me a little insight on wiring my 78 c10 has a ls 5.3 and my distributor wire I use is for my relays but when I crank my truck and let it run the wires to my standalone harness gets hot to the point the wire itself is melting
@@LonniesGarage and fuses get hot and melt as well
Love how you expain everything. Great job.
This video was a godsend i have a 1984 caprice but the concept is the same thanks a million
Great job.and great, great videos.. thanks for everything..
Thanks a million Bro!! That was the video l needed to get over the hump!!🏁🔥🏁🔥
Thanks for watching. Happy it helped u. Please share and subscribe.
hay man keep up the good work your videos have helped me out a lot thank you!!!
Thank you. I was wondering because I know the top red one goes strait to the battery , but the bottom red goes to the junction box in the firewall
Thanks so much for really usefull videos I’m planning to do same on my Jeep
Thank you for your video you definitely made my work a lot easier I have an 85 Chevy C10 that I will be doing the same thing my son. Thank you God bless.
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@@LonniesGarage thank you for sharing you're experiencing knowledge I've always wanted to make videos to help others but there's a lot of people that put very disrespectful comments on here and I don't think I can handle that but thank you for your video.
Great video bro it was just what I needed to know
Thank you for this video I'm working on a 78, what temperature gauge sender are you using?
Such a helpful video! Thank you!
Your welcome. Please share
thanks for the knowledge
thanks for this video I've been looking to see how to do it myself you really helped Alot keep up the videos
Not a problem. Thanks for watching and please don't forget to smash that like button and share.
You aré using the original tranmission for the .84 or the transmisión on the donor truck
Best info on TH-cam thanks for making video man I also don't really understand Scotty n the diagram
No problem. I'll be honest I can't read wiring diagrams. That's why I have made this video. I'm also a type of person that can understand and get the point better if I see someone do it or if I'm in person and they are telling me how. I'm not good at reading and figuring it out. Hope these videos that I have been making are helping others with my type of problem.
What connects to your junction box??? That’s the part I’m missing on my el Camino so battery keeps dieing
Lonnie your awesome 👍
Do you have a main lead on your fuse block? Like one power in port? Or is each fuse individually powered by each accessory wire?
It has a main power wire
I have an 83 Monte Carlo. Very similar. The red wire to junction block I’m guess doesn’t have to be wired if you are not running AC?
True
Did you get all the gauges to work
Very very good video Lonnie!!!
Thank you.
Good information still 5 years later 👍🏽
Great video
Getting very close, does it have a drive shaft in it yet??
I believe you said your moving again will it be drivable by then??
Yeah I already made the drive shaft. I haven't uploaded the video yet tho because it is way to short. I'll upload it when I do the crossmember.
Would you suggest buying that fuse block/computer mounting bracket or could I work around that?
Cade Scobey it's nice to have
I know it's been awhile but if I get a oil pressure sender like you have and a Camaro temperature sensor I'll be able to use those with the factory gages?
Yes that is correct
What all shall I take from the donor vehicle it's a 2000 with 5.3 and automatic transmission this will be going into a 1983 olds cutlas
Question
From the junction box it looks like it goes to the fan blower, do I leave it in the same place or does that wire gets move to the battery ?
Aguilon Can Presa Canario leave it
Lonnie is an 77 K10 have the same wiring ?
So the 6 wires that you kept how many did you splice and what wires were they? And if you didn't splice any wires, did you just insert the wires from the engine into that fuse block?
All the videos I have on here show what I did.
I'm putting a motor in an 87 k10. I'm trying to figure out where to put my temp and oil pressure wires. Do you have them run to the pcm or a sensor?
tire in the mud I've got more videos on this swap that will show everything...
THANK YOU !
No problem
I have questions I connect my top red wire to the junction box and from my junction box to my battery I make a (y) connection for and my purple to my starter and bottom red to junction box to and tan is oil green is my temperature so my old distributor pink is not connection for that one I use the pink and black stripe on the bulk head to provide power to my pcm do you think I have right connections
Alejandro Renteria add me on Facebook Lonnie Rice
Question Lonnie the pink wire below the red wire didnt power up my fuse box or relay at all But when i hooked it to 12v it powerd my dash lights. Is there a update on what wire powers the pcm ... I'm doing a LS SWAP in a 1985 chevy c10 pickup also thanks
It should be working. Worked fine for me an everyone else. U will need both red wires hooked up to constan 12v
@@LonniesGarage Thank you i'm just now seeing your comment maybe the previous owner screwed with the wiring but for some reason the the Pink wire powers my instrument cluster when i hook it to 12 v key but has absolutely no power when i hook the top red wire to battery pos even with the key turned on.
Great vid ..
Thank you
where did you find the 12volt power source relay, across from the fuses? i guess thats what you call it
Maurice Dantzler o bought a bunch from ebay
Great video,question do you have a video of the relay wiring or the come whit the ls harness?
I’ve got a video that shows how to wire the ls motor.
Does the old computer that is original to the truck just get phased out and not used anymore??? The one behind the glove box.
jcanchola08 there is no computer behind my glove box
Thanks again to you I can do ls swap in 86 c10 can you show what you did with transmission bracket
I used the stock one
Hey Lonnie just subscribed! Got a question for ya. I had a standalone harness made by a guy about a year ago and I'm just now getting to it so I forgot the instructions he gave. It's has a fuse box and it's got wires labeled, 2 red wires say that go to constant 12 volt so these go directly to the battery positive side?
Correct but make sure they are fused incase something goes wrong.
@@LonniesGarage yeah the guy that put it together I believe has a lot of experience but can't get in touch with him. He added a real nice fusebox with relays and fuses so I'm assuming it's fused correctly. I've never been good with wiring so I'm a little lost. There is a wire labeled TCC and he said it goes to with the wire that has 12v when brake pedal is pushed, the thing is the truck is already without it's original wiring harness so how do I test which wire is which?
Are the fuses next to the relay off of the suburban or did you purchase them on eBay as well?
James Davis ebay
Hey bud I just had a question do you change your brake booster? the reason I'm asking is because mine 84 had different break booster than yours and I'm trying to put a new one but I don't know which one to get they told me this two different codes .thanks
Juan Rodriguez it was on it when I got it
Ok thanks I need to keep looking..hey nice job all your did to the truck
Juan Rodriguez ty
can you show the bottom of your fuse boxes
I really love the videos man I'm 20years old and it's been a dream of mine to do something like this I want an old squarebody that has modern performance and reliability to drive where ever the miles of road may take me.., but if none of you mind me asking how much realistic ball park would I be looking at price wise?? Minus the truck but just to get all I need fittings and all to make it work and motor,tranny,rear end etc.? Thanks for the replies ahead and God bless you all
I've got a full parts list and price on the ls swap page on Facebook. Look me up on Facebook.
Lifesaver
Thanks for the information buddy,I’m in the process of swapping a 79 and it’s just a real rats nest of wires.the 79 should be fairly similar right?
Yeah
Lonnie's Garage (Puppetkicker) ok thanks have a good week
YOU GOT A HEARTBEAT!!!!! LOL.
Yeppers. I didn't say it in this video but I have already made a drive shaft too.
Nice!!
what headers are you using i have a 82 with truck manis on it but want to put headers on my 5.3 but i dont know which ones to get
great job by the way
I'm using hooker manifolds
+PuppetKicker The Manic Mechanic do you have a part number?
And wait do that's stock wiring harness? Figured you had to have a new wiring harness for the ls
I took the harness and turned it into a stand alone harness.
Hey Lonnie was the LS a junk yard purchase what was your cost (engine,PCM,etc.) how long did it take for the complete swap are you happy you did it🇺🇸
Andrew Hernand no the motor was not a junkyard find. I bought a whole Suburban for 550 bucks. I pulled all the parts I needed such as motor transmission wiring harness and computer. It took me about a year to do it. I did all the work myself. I did not hire any work out. I would highly recommend anyone to do one of these swaps. The power plus reliability Plus drivability is a world of difference.
I know you used Tejas SW. What fuse block did you go with and which pcm mount did you get. (ATO, DYNO) I guess which option. My mounts and shroud are on the way.
I used Tejas Steel Works fuse block mount also. I've got a parts list on my Facebook group at All Around Kustoms
@@LonniesGarage i know.. i read that, i don't do the facebook thing. I was looking at their site and wasn't sure which one you had. I want the simplest fuse block i can. All i saw on sqare-up/tejas was the mount. Had 3 options for said mount lol
Might have the wife use hers and find the list 🙂
ok so im wiring my 83 suburban with a lq4 the video is very helpful ! im confused with one thing i got that top red wire goes to constant 12v, pink is for the keyed power on the relay to power fuses , purple goes to little prong on starter , so the bottom red wire goes the the fuse bus on the fire wall and to the starter ?
Add me on Facebook and I will send you a picture of it (Lonnie Rice)
Hello, great video. I was wondering if you ever found out about the last wire on the bulkhead?
The bottom pink wire is fuel gauge
@@LonniesGarage Thanks for the fast response, I have an 84 c10 with the single gas tank that I'm working on. Looking into swapping the saddle tank for a 40 gal suburban tank.
Great video. How did you run the fuel pump relay system? Or is that in another video
That's all on the harness build series
@@LonniesGarage ok I'll check it out. Thanks
These are awesome vids. Any tips for swapping it into a 99 mustang? And is it a 5.3? What year?
This one is a 5.3 from a 2002 suburban
Where did you get your harness? I know you can basically buy them anywhere but I want to buy it from a trusted company
Trey W I made mine myself. I have tons of videos showing how
PuppetKicker sorry. I found your videos last night and didn't find the harness videos till after i left a comment asking.
You explain good one cuestión you use the original harness
hate to bug you again,but we're are you hooking the two orange wires coming from pcm
Ronnie fuller they will be constant 12v source. I've made two different fuse blocks. One is for the 12v keyed source wires and the other is the constant 12v source wires
very clean set up where did u get ur ecm mount from
squareup.com/market/tejassteelworks
what did the bottom pink wire go to.and will it try to fire if the vats are not removed.
Ronnie fuller the bottom pink wore is fuel gauge wire. If you have everything hooked up right and harness is good an correct then if the vats are cleared it should try to fire when u start it
I don't have vats removed yet, so will it not do anything until I get it done.and thanks for the videos. helped alot
not doing anything when I turn the key,is y I asked about vats
Ronnie fuller Yeah the vats have to be cleared. If they have then it should kick off
ok thanks, guess I don't have something right.
Hey Lonnie how did you do your power steering
Hooked it up like stock.
Do i need to have my computer tuned before i can fire it up? Im asking because mines wont crank itll turn but not run
U will need to have the anti theft system disabled on it before it will start
@@LonniesGarage ok thanks
Would all of this be the same for a 73 k10?
Should be
Ok, so can you show me how to wire up 95 throttlebody into a 98 with a vortec?
No, but their are groups on Facebook that can help you
hello what kind of radiator are you running in your truck?
Lavar Anderson I'm using one of out a 1989 firebird 5.0. Fits pretty well and all the lines match up.
Bohdi Fritzsch thanks
I know it’s been a few years but I have an 85 4.8 swap and I wired my truck the exact same way and when I turn the key and take it out the engine continues running until I pull the battery positive
Hummm not sure man. Maybe key switch
@@LonniesGarage the wire for 12v keyed ign on the connector that is also for torque converter (tcc). Where would the 12v wire run?
So you don’t need the whole main fuse box? Basically your just sending power to fuel/starter/ and that’s it??
Basically yeah. And the pcm
So what’s the purpose of stand-alone? Just cleaner look? I’m at the wiring stage of my swap. Still a little ignorant on this step
where can i run the bottom red wire if my truck is HVAC delete?
just tape it off in case u ever need it
cool thanks
Hey brother great video but I need some help I have a 1988 Chevrolet Caprice that when the first model efi came out how can I send u a picture of my bluk head to show u and u can inform me what to do
John Paul Garrido sorry I don't know anything about that car. Look up chevyboxrider
PuppetKicker thank u brother
What radiator did you use and how did u power your fuel pump i have a 78 model and i watch your video 30 times love what you doing keep it going and also can you post a video of it burning tires down the road
Check out my Facebook page. I've got a whole parts list on my Facebook group at All Around Kustoms
Can you make this video but for stock sbc350 and also show how the alternator is connected pls and thank you
I kno it’s a old video but where did u wire the fuel pump to
It gets wired to the ls motors computer.
Where does the brown wire to the bulk head go connected to?
Julio Cifuentes oil gauge
The brown wire that originally was connected to the alternator?
Julio Cifuentes look me up on Facebook Lonnie Pupprtkicker Rice. I have a picture showing where every wire needs to run to
did you make that computer mount on the fender ?
No I got it from Tejas Steel Works on Facebook
@@LonniesGarage ok cool thank you
Is there a picture of what it should look like
Yes check out my Facebook page Lonnie Rice
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Which wire do you use for tcc
Mine is hooked to my break wire under the pedal. There is a video on it.
How did you remove the vats.
Caelan Rugar local guy did it for me
People charge 2k+ to hook up 6 or 7 wires?
It's a lot more than just 6 wires. The whole ls harness has to be reworked. Watch my ls harness videos and u will see.
It's not hard to get to 2k if your paying shop labor rates for someone to do the swap, esp once you get into making trans crossmembers work, driveshaft mods, diagnosing unforseen issues the engine/trans might have had before, etc
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Is it the same for an 85 c10
Yes
Hey did u ever get it going
Yes. Look through the videos.
I need some headers like those what are those for what car
Mario Alanis they are hooker cast-iron manifolds for ls
PuppetKicker yes sorry I watched your other videos and yes you did say what kid were they thanks
Mario Alanis no problem
what vehicle did u get the pcm out of
It all came from the donor vehicle. 2003 suburban 5.3 ls with a 4L60e trans
+PuppetKicker The Manic Mechanic do u think I can use that model pcm for the Ls 6.0 engine I'm getting because I'm just getting the engine no wires no transmission and no pcm is coming with it
+PuppetKicker The Manic Mechanic it's coming out a 2002 cadillac escalade
+Christ Life I have a 6.0 pcm that has already has the vats removed from it
+PuppetKicker The Manic Mechanic ok is that's the 1 that's in the car on the video
how did you wire your ac
Danny Austin I haven't yet
I know you talked u s through on what wires to use but do you have a diagram that you used initially?
Danny Austin yes you can look me up on Facebook (Lonnie Pupprtkicker Rice)
So the truck will start
This was years ago. It will do more than start lol
What is charging your battery?
The altonator
Why can't people just make these videos step by step. I don't want you to show me "here and here and here" just go step by step.
I'm sorry if this video didn't help you. Your the first one to complain about it. Everyone else seems to love how it's broken down.
The top red wire and the purple wire both go to the starter? You’re pretty unclear about that part.
It is a little confusing. The purple wire goes to the solenoid. You can run that red wire to the battery or the battery terminal on the starter. Same difference.
You aré using the original tranmission for the .84 or the transmisión on the donor truck
It's the trans from the donor. It is a 4L60e trans