2013 Ram 1500 HEMI Sport Takes on Tundra & the Ike Gauntlet Towing Test ( Episode 5 )
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- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) The 2013 Ram1500 Sport Crew Cab is a bad ass looking pickup. But will it tow as good as it looks? Watch this Ike Gauntlet episode 5 to find out.
The 2014 Toyota Tundra Pickup is built to tow. But is it better than the Ram 1500 We decided to find out by putting both pickups up against each other in a Mega Mashup Sequel. Once again both trucks tow the old Lincoln Continental Mark V Diamond in the Rough up one of the steepest and highest American Highways. From Dillion, Colorado to the Eisenhower Tunnel U.S. I-70 climbs 8 miles to a maximum elevation of 11,158 feet or 3,401 meters. That's enough elevation and grade to test the most powerful of pickups. Is the Toyota Tundra up to the task of towing a over 7,000 pounds up to the top of the tunnel?
In fact according to Toyota this pickup can tow up to 9,600 pounds. That's enough weight to need a commercial truckers license in most states. In this first TFLtruck Ike Gauntlet video review we test the truck up the Ike Gauntlet see how fast it will tow around 7,200 pounds of old American Luxury car plus people and gear 8 miles up a 7 percent grade to the Eisenhower tunnel with the help of our friend Kent from ( www.MrTruck.com ).
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Not gonna lie, HEMI sounds good :) Oh and P.S., thank you Chrysler for offering an 8 speed auto - seems to work quite good!
I just don't like that nob For the eight speed
+chris ward
I didn't like it either at first, after the first night of driving it, I love it!
As a Ram owner, I love it. Plenty of power and sounds really nice at cold starts.
I've personally have owned a 04 ram since 05 and I have to say in the 10 years that I've had this truck I've had absolutely no problem what's so ever never broken down and it's the most dependable ride I've ever owned I love it .
Sure you only one lucky person on whole earth my ram broke after 40k
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching. We've got he Nissan Titan on the way to Colorado for an Ike Gauntlet Run. Now we just need to get our hands on the new 6.2L Silverado or GMC and we'll have at least one towing truck from all of the light duty players.
Because you tried to maintain 60 mph, the times don't matter. If you would have let the trucks go faster when they could, your times would mean something
Angry Nerd Gaming I understand this is an old comment, but their point in doing this was to simply see IF the trucks could maintain that 60mph speed to be fair. A lot of times, they’ll drive vehicles that can’t. 60 is simply the arbitrary number that they’re towing, and is likely based off of the legal speed they’re allowed to tow. Here in CA, we can only tow at a max speed of 55mph (stupid, I know)... but nonetheless, 60mph is a fair speed for small/mid-size V8s and even V6s.
Glad you guys made the video. You gotta love the new 8 speed transmission in the ram. Better for towing plus added fuel economy, what's not to like.
I love my 16 ram Laramie fully equipped with air ride when we tow our 5500# travel trailer.. 9 years ago goes to show how far you guys have come! No trailer brake gain, no tow haul mode 😂 great video as always TFL
I always like your videos and I enjoy the banter between Nathan and Roman. I owned a 2003 Tundra that I traded in for a Honda Ridgeline. I miss that truck and would love to own another one some day.
Amazing episode! Keep them coming!
Very nice review as always! I just had a hard time reading the white board, but you had the good idea to write the results after the video ;) Thank you and Have a nice day!
It definitely doesn't seem like 8 years ago you guys posted this video. I just got my second ram it's a 2015 with low Kms. I'm happy so far. As far as the exhaust out the back, with air flow there isn't an issue .
Ram! Nice job, guys. Always a fun watch.
sounds good! wouldn't mind listening to that note all day. better than the radio
Hello from the Yukon! I so enjoy your video posts. I've just got my 2014 Ram and was curious to see how it did for you. Thanks for the excellent job guys. The first place I checkout when logging into TH-cam is TFLT and TFLC! :)
I am about to buy a new truck and just drove a new crew max Tundra and was impressed. In fact all 4 of the new trucks were impressive. The Ram is far and away the cream of the crop. Very refined and relaxed in every way.
I think Ram makes the best looking trucks... I do like the look of the Tundra but without a diesel option I won't buy one.
I really really like my diesel Ram ecodiesel. Gets really good fuel economy. I run mine on vegetable oil with no issues
The time really doesn't matter. If you can maintain 60 MPH the whole way, your time is dictated by traffic. You should do away with the time category and replace it with a check mark if it can, or cannot, maintain the speed limit.
I agree these tests are fun to watch but they are pointless
It's obvious after your second downhill on the dodge that you still had zero trailer brakes...86 degrees is nothing,that's just tire and bearing temperature...
Yep. I always adjust my trailers until I feel it pulling then back of just a hair
What does it matter if you don't tow anything! I like my Ram because it's good looking, taller than a car and it's heavy and hopefully more protective than most cars!
TFL is far and away the best of the TH-cam car vid producers. The highest values, the most professional presenters,,,, just top notch. You cats need a commercial deal
Dude, great Rush shirt!!!!!!!
I love how they start bragging about how impressive it was that the ram did all that braking on it's own. Nevermind the fact that a lot of trailers do not have trailer brakes, or the fact that the Tundra managed to brake the same distance and only got 340 degrees vs. 650 or whatever they said.
Once again great review guys! I know you cant please everyone & you never said you were Consumer Reports. I own a 13 RAM 1500 Longhorn and live just outside of Denver, I towed my 4 ton toy hauler with 1500 lbs of gear over the Ike a dozen times this summer without problems. True its cooler in the fall but its always cool up there even in the summer. My neighbors FX4 with EcoBoost couldn't even keep up with me towing a 6500 lb camper, I think they are all great trucks.
Dodge make the best sounding trucks they all sound amazing.
Nice rumble
Nice price tag on replacing the cam and lifters
What a truck!!! GUT'S, GLORY, RAM!!! WOOOOO!!!!
great video guys.
I love the new 8-speed, way better than their other transmission options.
727 was the best transmission
My dad has an ‘11 Sport with the 5 speed and I prefer it over the 8 speed. Gears are just too short in my opinion
That is Awesome looking forward to it !!!
just be happy the pinion nut didn't come off while towing up that hill. My 05 Ram 1500 Daytona edition with only 76000 miles lost the pinion nut while just driving not in tow. Destroyed the rear axle and all gears inside. Cost me $1000 to fix it myself. I am now the proud owner of a 07 Toyota Tundra
Love your channel, guys! What type (manufacture & model ) of trailer did you use for this test? Thanks! Also could you please do city test for Power Vagon vs Toyota Tundra Ltd or SR5 with convenient package? Thanks again & all the best for crew members!
Love our 2012 Ram Hemi! 🙌
Thanks! I love the RAM.
LOVE my 2013 Ram 1500 CC 4x4!
How many miles are you at? any issues? looking to get a 2011 1500 laramie
Love my 2017 ram1500 with the 8 speed! Looking for a good sounding muffler right now its deleted and it only sounds good at high rpm
Kent is a cool, chill dude!
I remember this video way back when I was in my early 30s and bought the refreshed 2013 Ram Bighorn.
I just sub'd because of his Rush shirt (and great videos).
Mr Truck made a good point about the duel rear exhaust that i never thought of. If you haul animals or anything sensitive then the exhaust will pipe it right to it. I like the sound of dual rears but only for racing or mainstreet, not for working with anything sensitive.
What no one is commenting about is the basics. Why do I want an outdated, high inertia pushrod engine over a DOHC? When I think dependability and reliability I question the guts of the truck which is the power train. Do this towing test everyday with the same trucks and that will tell me which one is dependable. Can the hemi last 100k miles of this test? I doubt the hemi over the dohc iforce. Bang for your buck and overall options, Ram no doubt. As someone who tows everyday I can't trust the hemi on lasting. Unbiased here,…I have had every brand truck except Nissan.
TheSquiddlyspooge Very good valid points.
yeah man the "new" hemi is 11 years old now and has had very little change except for MDS in 05 and VVT, compared with all the engines available in the market, i'd say that the Hemi has held up best of all... not saying it isnt outdated, but its definitely durable
If you did this every day with your truck, it wouldn't last 50 K miles. This is excessive abuse and is only done to show what the truck is capable of when maxed out. They're running wide open, basically the same as running 100 mph or more if the truck was unloaded and on level ground. How long do you think it would last doing that?
Thamac15 as long as the tundras frame doesn’t rust out...
Amazing Dodge
Yup
Great Job Guys !!! I think your going to have to get a heavier trailer so that you can actually find out which one can get the fastest time. That way when you get on the on ramp you put it to the floor and never let it up. Or use something like a camper which has a lot of drag on it. Nathan mentioned for a lot of this video he had a lot of pedal left. I love this venue for testing !!!!
We had a 2012 dodge 2500 with the 5.7. That truck was incredible, it had the 5 speed trany on it. We were in Virginia and there was a hill on a road that the speed limit was 55. The road was I think a 7 or 8% grade, it was extremely steep. We had a trailer on and the combined weight of the trailer and the load was 15,000 lbs. We started up the hill and it was holding 45 mph at 3,000 rpm. My dad gunned it, the peddle on the floor and it jumped to about 5,000 rpm and within seconds it was at 55 mph. That truck was amazing.
Nice truck! Any plans to do this test with the Ecodiesel? I'd love to see how it compares to the Hemi and the Ecoboost.
Can I make a suggestion? Please use a obd2 Bluetooth reader plugged in monitoring live data like: tps , mph, etc stats with a separate camera on an iPhone displaying this along with a live timer during the test. So much info could be learned from each truck tested as well as verify each test was non biased toward any brand. Everyone wins👍🏼
Ram is one bad ass truck!! I just love mine! They keep making trucks like this I will be sticking with ram!
I had duel exhaust on my last truck and yes it was a problem. I had to turn the truck off when hitching and unhitching my camper because the exhaust fumes got right in my face. The last problem was the noise it makes becomes a irritating sound when towing a long distance.
Can u guys drive around more with the ram 1500 sport off road please
My uncle was a Chevy/GMC guy. His son and grandsons' drive Ford trucks. They own a construction company and a ranch/farm. They actually use their trucks. They had been Chevy folks up until my uncle's grandsons' were old enough to drive.
Awesome video! you must try on the 2014 Ram with the 6.4L hemi for the next time folks :)
My ram is close to 140k miles, and still yet to have a single problem with it. Never been in a garage, and has sat through brutal winters in Indiana, especially last year reaching -30 degrees some days and nights. never failed me once. I also haul quite a bit with it.
What part of Indiana gets down to -30? When I lived in Indiana I don't remember -30. While Indiana does get colder than I like I never experienced it that cold. I'm curious as to when and where.
Last year was an especially cold winter. I don't know if you live in the Midwest still, but there was what's called a "winter vortex" and basically cold air was being brought from Canada into Indy. It got even colder up towards Lake Michigan, but where I live just a county or two below Indianapolis it reached -30 a few days.
I still want to see a Tundra with a TRD SuperCharger go up the Ike Gauntlet.
My dad was a GM guy and I am still a Ram dude. As the famous saying goes, "if you can't Dodge it, Ram it".
Yeah. go watch the other video... The Tundra, $9k less, was within 10 seconds (when he said that he kept going over 60... whatever), had brake temps *300F* lower! That's half! And they made a big deal in the other video that the Tundra had no trailer brake controller, but it was 295F lower than the Ram, when they made use of the trailer brakes. Call me crazy, but I'm going to keep my $9,000, maybe lose 10 seconds up the pass, and have brakes that aren't going to melt. P.s. For $9k, you could afford a factory-installed TRD supercharger, and a professionally-installed trailer brake controller, and still have plenty left.
LOL
The RAMs always have 9k-10k in rebates/incentives so the out the door cost is same. Comparing MSRP is very misleading on American trucks. The government subsidies them heavily so they never sell for MSRP like Tundra/Titan. Its always lower.
They are both very nice trucks. I'm a Ram guy myself and I think I like the look of the front end of this truck better than the new 2019 style.
Every one is just jealous because the ram won quit ya'll crying because the Toyota and ford. All of ya'll are just butt hurt because the ram is better than it used to be
The transmissions in the Chryslers are GARBAGE and that hemi will never make it to 500,000 miles like the tundra will and more.
@@919hey that truck doesn't have a transmission made by Chrysler though
just wondering on the leader board , did all vehicles tow the same equipped trailer?
I never comment on these things, people buy what they like and they like with a buy usually but I am so sick of these four guys saying "oh it's only got a V-6 and it kicks everybody's butt " a turbo ads displacement pinheads it puts more air into the cylinders effectively making the motor a larger motor it's forced induction it adds fuel and air. Why does no one ever mention this if you added a turbocharger to any of these V8 trucks they would stomp that eco-boost into the ground. Me myself I own a 2013 ram 1500 and I like it very much but that's my opinion right or wrong I love my truck have a nice day
Hey guys...when are u going to do the Ram Eco Diesel (since u done the ford eco boost)????
Are you guys going to get a Ram Ecodiesel Ike gauntlet??????
Awesome I plan on getting my 2015 Ram1500 Black out Express.
Get it they are fun as hell
+AlvinRey83 LOL, oh man, not you too??? I have one, they are everywhere, trust me.
AlvinRey83 that's the best looking one
All trucks these days are beast
I have a '96 Dodge Ram 2500. Within it's warranty period, it had 4 recalls. With 60K miles, I've had to replace the water pump twice. The intermittent wipers quit working and various knobs had to be replaced.
The brake controller if it's like mine on my 2012 RAM 2500 has a brake type setting besides the gain control. It would seem that the trailer brakes were not working. If I remember right there are 3 types of electric brakes and also the traction control can effect the brake controller. You should be able to test this even on level towing and drag the brakes and notice a difference. I tow a Cimarron 3 horse slant load trailer and when set right you hardly notice that it's back there. If I want I could skid the wheels on my trailer.
Looking forward to the Gauntlet with the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel!
Hey guys when are u doing Ram Eco Diesel and Tundra with 10,000 lbs.???
Finally a review with the dodge ram SPORT!!!
I own a 2006 RAM 1500 HEMI with Tow Package (Complete).
I love this truck. I've read some of the reviews about the truck and the only thing after owning it for a year & half have had happen to me is the tach issue.
It works when it wants to.
The Tundra is a really nice truck but for me?
The RAM does it. The look of that truck is outstanding.
And being they are pretty much neck & neck as far as performance IMO it comes down to looks. I guess it's too early to see what bugs/issues they will/will not have.
Ok, I take it back, on the 2nd trip down was tow haul used? Maybe if you do something like this again with the Ram use the heady electric setting, it sounds like the gain wasn't high enough because the trailers brakes weren't really any hotter. Are you sure they work?
Thank you for the video. I really enjoyed this one
I am a big dodge fan and even tried a newer ram 2500 hemi. Even though it handled the weight very well I couldn't stand the way it shifted all day long. In tow mode with a trailer and two quads on it, the transmission couldn't hold a gear on a hill for nothing. Up down up down all the way up the hills. Drove me nuts and I sold it a year later.
I don't think everything is legit here. You guys compare the brake temps and the 2nd time you test the Dodge downhill, you have the trailer brake controller working for the trailer, and the temps are still way high. The Tundra doesn't even HAVE a brake controller, so the Tundra was doing all of the braking, yet it's brake temps are less than half the temp of the Ram. If you are going to test and compare, please leave your personal opinions aside and test fairly.
I also think you need the same driver for each truck so there are as few changes as possible. No way to duplicate the driving when 2 different people are going to drive each truck.
When you guys measure the sound level, I clearly see higher numbers in the Dodge, but you don't show the meter when it kicked into a lower gear, yet you say "they are about the same". Well show it then, if the Tundra was at 69 decibels, and the Ram was at 72 db, that is not the same. Don't let your bias taint your tests.
Somebody mentions that "reliability, quality, and dependability aren't as important in a truck", are you freakin' kidding me? Take a look at how each of these trucks stack up in JD Powers testing. Since when is reliability, quality, and dependability not important in anything?
That hemi put work in. Sound good goin up also.🤣
In the Ford test it was also stated that there was a lot of throttle left to go faster or pass going up. Then need to time a 65-75 mph acceleration test with the Ram and the Ford starting at the same point on the road to create a tie breaker.
Love the Ike Gauntlet tests. The only reason I would buy a truck is to tow and car on a trailer.
When are you guys gong to try the ecodiesel?
thanks for you . great wourk
Have yall considered a diesel match up with the newer diesels? Ford Gm/Chevy Ram dual or single rear 3/4 ton or 1 ton
i just wanted 4x4, v8,pw and ac. got more bang for the buck with ram. tried toyota and chevyyy. ford forget to expensive. for the money ram offered to me a better truck. 31,000 is what i payed for. they had 9,000 dealer incentives. take that all day. love my ram and so does my son.
Congrats on the new truck... My 2009 Ram just hit 100k with no problems at all. I also have a 2008 Tacoma with 141k and that truck is also running like new. Either way just keep up on the general maintenance like oil changes, and your truck will be good to you.
As long as your not keeping it long a Dodge is fine. Otherwise pay more and get a gm or get an old truck from the 80s lol
Jeez cant believe this video was 10 years ago
Just FYI I still think they had the trailer brakes wrong, i read the manual, there are 4 setting in the towing menu light electric- heavy electric - light and heavy electric over hydrolic, plus the gain +\-, once set it can be stored in memory
Can't wait to see the new 2019 Ram 8sp eTorque redesigned with 40 new shift points.
Brand loyalty aside, it is cool to see what these trucks are capable of these days.
You can tow with a SUV . The real test is when you load it up and see how it handle the road. Would you be so kind and do that test.
This whole video is a wash and completely pointless. You cant compare the two brake temperatures if one truck had the trailer helping and the other didn't. Also on the way back up the "Gauntlet" they only realized they weren't in tow/haul mode half way up which meant it wasn't turned on when they went down. They call themselves "The Fast Lane TRUCK" but seem to know nothing about trucks or how to tow and compare properly.
Definitely not Rocket Scientists
You Say this cause the tundra got beat
Thanks for the comment. FYI: we've already have a new trailer ready that's 10,000 pounds for the next year's Ike Gauntlet testing.
When the uphill test started , were both trucks going the same speed past your starting point? Why not the same drivers both times? Nathan drives more aggressively.
I have to say, I am only part way through the video and the code seems "better", but in the long run, how will the dodge last? Over the next few years? I know if you keep good maintenance it will last but still. My Tundras will keep going for hundreds of thousands of miles. Will the Dodge?
Can you test the cargo vans loaded up the Ike Gauntlet.
would be great if you guys could do the ike gauntlet towing test with the new ecodiesel ! here in europe, this v6 ecodiesel with it's 250bhp is the most popular engine for towing... and in the Alps we are pushing it to its limits too - and it does make a great job:
the pound foot of tourque is much higher in the ecodiesel, so maybe it beats the natural aspirated v8 engines?
Would a regular cab change how well it tows
Can someone tell me what type of ramp/flatbed attachment that is?
if you guys cared so much about american made then you'd all stop shopping at Harbor freight for your tools.
Dj von Zell it is very hard to buy American made anything, but when I can I look for it. Made in 🇺🇸, by American companies.
I m from Vietnam and I fukking hate china. I always buy MADE IN USA over made in china.
Punjabi boys...I wanted to comment on ur post below. My tundra also never and I mean NEVER got more than 13mpg no matter how I drove. Rated at 17 city and that was a pipe dream. Agreed the resale and reliability are impeccable...but parts cost are much higher and harder to acquire compared to the others. If you're not brand biased try me all..that's what I did. I'm blown away with my new ram. 5.7 4x4 quad w3.22 rear end. My current avg is 17.5-18 with highway only sometimes reaching 25mpg. So yeah it's night as fast off the line but way way better mileage and still just as capable because the 8 gears. Rams 8 speeds first three ratios are all lower than tundras first two gears so that partially negates the 4.3 rear end. Also somthing to consider ram offers 100000 warranty and toyota is still 60k.
I just got a Ram 1500 Sport and love it so far. Sounds, looks and performs great. I was a GM guy for my last 9 trucks and wish I would have switched a long time ago. The Ram is a better truck all the way around, IMO.
Nice review but you guys never showed the coolant and trans temperature on the Ram after the test.
Check out the Tundra test. Trailer brakes were around the same temp, but the trucks brakes were at least twice as cooler. The trailer brakes are not so strong and they don't really need to be, they just assist with the braking to ease of the truck. But still. That was a damn high number on the Ram. Point taken.
Ram hemi very reliable my work truck has 545000 kms and my personal has 38,000 kms and neither have had failures and both driven daily . Just maintain it .
What was the gearing on the Tundra?
You guys should get an FX2 or 4 with a 4.10 rear end and ecoboost or 6.2. Might not make a huge difference but still. And do one giant test of every manufacturer. It would be much better to compare on the same day with the same weather! Still, great videos! Can't wait for the GM 6.2!
The Ram brakes are smaller than the Tundra. So since they are both pretty close to the same weight, and pulling the same weight, the Ram brakes are being worked harder. That's why they were hotter.
You'd think for another $9,000, you'd get, you know... brakes that don't suck.