2014 Toyota Tundra takes on Ram 1500 & the Ike Gauntlet Towing Test ( Episode 4 )
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- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) The 2014 Toyota Tundra Pickup is built to tow. But is it better than the Ram 1500 We decided to find out by putting both pickups up against each other in a Mega Mashup Sequel. Once again both trucks tow the old Lincoln Continental Mark V Diamond in the Rough up one of the steepest and highest American Highways. From Dillion, Colorado to the Eisenhower Tunnel U.S. I-70 climbs 8 miles to a maximum elevation of 11,158 feet or 3,401 meters. That's enough elevation and grade to test the most powerful of pickups. Is the Toyota Tundra up to the task of towing a over 7,000 pounds up to the top of the tunnel?
In fact according to Toyota this pickup can tow up to 9,600 pounds. That's enough weight to need a commercial truckers license in most states. In this first TFLtruck Ike Gauntlet video review we test the truck up the Ike Gauntlet see how fast it will tow around 7,200 pounds of old American Luxury car plus people and gear 8 miles up a 7 percent grade to the Eisenhower tunnel with the help of our friend Kent from ( www.MrTruck.com ).
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It's funny how the stop watch was started on the traffic sign on the left side of the on ramp on the Tundra. The Ford and Ram was start on the sign on the right side which is further down the on ramp. That makes it a real fair test...right. It does not matter which brand you drive, if you are happy with your truck thats all that matters. But make it a fair and proper reveiw and comparision. I love all trucks, I hate when companies lie and reviewers change things to throw a test. Consumers deserve fair and accurate reveiws and information. We don't care about opinions and comments because you like only one brand more than others. Talk to a mechanic who works on them and knows which one breaks down more and cost more to fix. He can give you a better reveiw them this video..
In 10 years a 10 speed automatic transmission and twin turbos sound like a maintenance nightmare.
The Tech Librarian exactly.
@linny105 I watched the next episode. The Ram ate the Tundra. I went out and bought a new Ram all the way
I would rather take the 6 speed tundra for durability and lose out on mpg
Its like you knew it was coming
I have a 2011 ram I love its got 104,000 miles on it so far no problems at all just routine maintenance.. I like the tundras too though very strong good looking trucks for sure.
Thanks for the comment. This is way easier said than done.
Thanks for the comment. It takes a lot of time and manpower to edit these episodes as we use 5 cameras. Sorry but we can't just put it together overnight. FYI: The Ram Ike Gauntlet video will be posted on Thursday.
The design of the RAM is just stunning
thanks for taking the time to record your experiment!
Look at the resale values... Speaks volumes about just anything you can discuss regarding these two trucks. Those who care how they spend their hard earned money and do the research will choose the Toyota.
LOVE my 2014 Tundra FTW
Tundra can go 100,000k miles with just oil changes. I'd like to see any other truck do that.
Ok, let me simplify. Tundra=Full on utility truck
Ram=Sport Truck
Yep
They're more reliable, but you can't do as much with them.
EpicNEd which is more reliable? toyota or ram...im a bit confused
Eha Kalama Asian cars are usually more reliable than American cars, at the expense of power. A tundra could never beat an f150 in a tug of war stock.
EpicNEd watch tug of war videos on youtube...youll be suprised
The Ram looks amazing! Definitely the best looking truck in the segment.
I didn't see the "Tow Haul" light on the dash. Thats a MUST guys!
First of all, great video's Guy's. It's great to see real world testing by an unbiased party. I was amazed how easy it was for the F-150 in your last video's to pull that trailer with a 3:73 ratio. It would be great to see you do it again in the cooler weather with the Ecoboost but this time with the optional 4:10 ratio available in the FX4. I think it would be by far the best. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more test's and reviews.
Wow, not a cloud in the sky, beautiful!
Obviously the purpose of this video is to hate on the tundra because they don't feel it's American enough
William Todd 75% is made and assembled. Highest compared to big 3
Tundra actually the most American made truck in the USA all other trucks get their parts from China
Great suggestion. Thanks
Kent's rockin' that Canadian tuxedo :)
You guys are making a Great review video & its getting better and better every time KEEP UP the good work ( Caribbean , curacao)
Tundra all the way
I heard ram went to the scrap yard after after this review
my 07 tundra has a hydrolic tail gate lowering dampener thingie too, he was wrong that only the new ones have it
That’s not what he said.
This is probably the best video series of pickup truck towing test I have seen yet. My only suggestion for the next time you test these kinds of trucks again would be to increase your towing weight by around 1000 pounds so that there is more difference in the results.
Can't wait for the Ram to show everyone up!!!
Love my 2007 rcsb tundra 5.7. I'm swapping the hood and tailgate w/ the '14, giving it a plastidip and slap a for sale sign on it.
cant wait episode 5, good videos :)
Air density definitely makes a difference, but don't forget about the 4.3 gear ratio keeping those rpms up. Great video. Keep it up!
Thank you for that information. I'll see if I can apply it to the life that I actually have unlike certain other people...
good video guys cant wait to see ram
Have fell in love with your show, but our killing me with not uploading the second part to this video! same day release would be awesome!
Can't wait till episode 5! Keep up the good work guys!
I'd rather stop faster than go faster. with that said, the Tundra has better brakes than the competition! even without "integrated brake controller".
Dont understand why theres so much hate on the Tundra in the comments. Would rather the Tundra than a F150. Would last 3 times longer with very little maintenance
Utterly shameless truck fanboys making BS claims about their brands.
This tundra has more trq and hp than most 3/4 ton gas trucks! This truck is amazing! I own a 2008 5.7L 2WD Crewmax! I'm very happy with it with over 125,000 miles!
Got to lovr the interior space in the tundra and the new interior look is beautiful.. The dodge little to car like inside
It would be awesome if you guys could get your hands on a trd supercharged tundra and run this test.. I'm sure it would put up an impressive time.. The Fast Lane Truck
I agree. The Ram is without a doubt the best looking pickup on the market.
8 speed transmission, 1 speed for each transmission you're going to burn through on that Ram before you sell it
Spaghett lol true story.
If you guys did any research or had half of a clue these videos might actually be informative. Roman- the oil gauge on the dash is oil pressure not temperature. And the tundras direct drive gear is 4th not 5th 5th gear is 0.728 and 6th is 0.588. Also for the love of god turn off your cell phones or put them in airplane mode while you are recording the video and then you wont get that annoying noise in your videos
i heard that also, oil temp.? lol
you guys are great! when is the 1/4 mile with all the trucks at the ssme time
I like the looks of the ram alot better
They are pointing to air temp to be the reason for the change in time, but when they tested the 2013 they actually let off just a bit at one point due to traffic (which would account for a few of the seconds being argued over). The issue with the eco-boost, even with its trailer braking being built in is the brakes were ~450 degrees. I'll give up the few seconds for the safer brakes.
Great video guys. I have recently purchased the 2014 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew 4x4 with the 3.92 gear. During your braking session, you guys retested because you forgot to set the trailer brake gain, however, after adjusting the temps were about the same.
In the settings on the 8.4" touch screen, you have the option to set the intensity of the trailer brake, whether light electric over hydrolic or light electric or heavy electric, etc.
I am wondering if any of these changes were made prior to towing or if you were going strictly off the trailer brake controller.
Perhaps a different outcome with a little hotter trailer brakes if not, but with that said, it shows the Dodge can handle a heavy load, on a steep downgrade all on its own.
Yep. i'd say the ecoboost is competitive with the bigger, optional motors on the other guys. And definitely better at high altitude.
My favorite all truck in my life I need one but I haven’t no money yet
The video seems to freeze @ 13:07 everytime I try and reload it again :( The Fast Lane Car
Went to the RV dealer with a neighbor in his Tundra, (nice truck too), who wanted to buy a 40' travel trailer/ toy hauler. When he asked about installing the 5th wheel, the service dept. guy laughed and said it would tow better with a dually Ford or Dodge due to the large mass. When he said "yeah but these things towed a space shuttle!" the RV guys laughed even harder! One of my trucks is a ten year old Ram 1500 Hemi Sport with about 150000 miles on it and it's been a good daily driver for years but just like my neighbor, I'd have to rethink pulling something that massive with a 1/2 ton single rear wheel vehicle. One must size the truck to the job at hand.
im lovin' the ike gauntlet guys!! i think its the best way of testing a trucks capabilities around. when are we gonna see the project duramax take it on though??
please vote up so they'll see....
Thanks for pointing out the head light adjuster on the Tundra, but damn Toyota still needs to put a brake control.
both top trucks, ideal for towing
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Like thats something to be proud of? The other trucks have been doing that since the 80's, time to get with it.
in 2009 dodge branched off to form Ram trucks. a separate manufacture to focus all its time and energy on pick-ups and become more commercial friendly.
Direct drive is actually in 4th on the Tundra. 5th and 6th are BOTH overdrives. That's why the V6 model only has a 5-speed automatic. They essentially are the same transmissions with an additional overdrive gear in the 6-speed.
Definitely love the tundra more
Ram pulls great a have one of those before the went to the hockey puck shifter I completely dislike. Next truck will be the tundra
Love our Ram 💪
How come you test the uphill, but really both directions, without the cruise control. wouldn't that be the most accurate way to get mpg since you usually let the trucks make extra decisions like gearing and what not.
january 10, 2014 GM recalls 303,000 new chevy and gmc sierra pickups for engine fire risk. dont believe look it up! The only brand my family and i have ever owned is TOYOTA with little maintaince. I still have a 1991 toyota celica with 250,000 miles on it and have ONLY changed the brakes and battery only once! And its still going strong. My husband will be getting his second tundra next week! love the new interior.
Wow, thats great. I'm sure you've changed the headlight fluid though. I hear it doesn't last very long.
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You need to do your homework on that accelerator "problem", sandman. Even it it was a problem, Toyota never shied away from a recall like other government-backed manufacturer(s) have done for several years.
GM Is trash.
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And toyota replaced how many rusted frames?
Props to Toyota offering 4.30 ratios. I wish GM would offer something more than the 3.42s with the 5.3.
farmerallis you can get the RAM in a 3.21, 3.55, 3.92, 4.92
Maybe the guy just didn't know, or forgot but the Nissan Titan has had that easy lowering tailgate for a long time.
I'm impressed with the cabin quietness and the job it did on the pull on this 2014 version. I have essentially the same weight in a travel trailer (shipping weight of 7155lbs), but not the same profile however. Can you guys talk payload of each of the tow vehicles? Ford offers HD Payload package in the 150, do the others? Can you share the options list beyond engine and rear gear ratio i.e. tow packages etc...? Great job on all of these vids!!
Going to be nice to see the eco diesel numbers
The Titan has had a tailgate shock since 2004.
I would love to see your project pickup do this run
Why are they so upset tundra does not have an integrated brake controller (IBC)?? Maybe some people don't tow.? Not sure about Dodge and Ford but the GM IBC's act up all the time and even if any codes are set like harmless emissions codes you suddenly loose ALL trailer braking- maybe on a long hill in the mountains? Also it can cause sway control to randomly kick in without a trailer in tow which can lead to loss of vehicle control. The fix? Disconnect the IBC and install a stand-alone brake controller. Check it out its crazy!!
that's one badass Ram
Funny, at 16:34 they really did almost run off the road. That would have been a heck of a ride!
I agree!
I love how Andre speaks perfect English now...
I’m a proud owner of a Toyota Tundra. So I have to be loyal and stick with the Tundra.
I'd love to see Toyota give you a TRD supercharged Tundra and Tacoma to test. I really wonder how much of a difference a little boost would make.
Tundra gains over 500 HP
Juan Mora Might want to check that. Lol!
nope it its around 504 HP with the TRD supercharger
Juan Mora with a SC it goes from 381 hp to 504 hp, it gains 123 hp
Your wording was off. saying it gains over 500 HP lol
possibly the cause of the better tundra performance between the 13 and the 14 is a better air intake maybe not the only reason but maybe part of it
sometimes comparing trucks for their strength isnt all, the real thing i car about is which one will stick with me for years to come without any problems, owned a ram and 75000 miles into the truck the transmission blows. Purchased a new 2007 tundra and had it ever since, just now its pushing the 70000 mile marker with no problems, and i even have replacement on the transmission for life so im set ;)
+john j Funny, my best friend has had his Tundra in the shop so much from leaking valve covers to broken rear window, right rear brake caliper issues. Traded it in for a 2014 Ram 2500 Megacab. Hasn't looked back. Not even in the same league he says. Ram for the win. And.. he is Asian! To get him from Toyota - LOL
gol10dr45 doesnt really matter of the problem, thats one car out of millions that have been built, not all will be the same. it also depends how well the engine was preserved, the car could lok good but have a horriable taken care of engine. Just saying that when ever i look to the side of the highway i always see american trucks broken down, never have i seen a tundra unless its a older model. More about reliability that the brand, blinded by consumerism dude.
+john j here in Arizona, a truck state, American trucks are doing the hauling, i know people who transport coast to coast and have near 700k miles on their trucks. you just don't see that type of work hauling from imports. it's a personal choice really. I work on cars on the side, don't like the import fool you.
gol10dr45 look you stick with yours ill stick with mine, like it has always been Japanese/ Chinese has been always proven more reliable rather its vehicles or technology
+gol10dr45 hilarious because tundras are made in Texas and your silly ram is imported from Mexico...
i just got my 2015 tundra limited and i thing that is the best truck then make ever no comparation the best truck on the market right now
morm110575 It's a good truck, but it's definitely not as good as the big 3, "Silverado, Ram, and F series".
morm110575 i agree 100%, my tundra has been far more reliable than all my domestics, it's a beast
Japanese make all the best shit and I don't understand why.
anomaly19851 would you like me to explain?
guy proulx Sure, how do they manage to make better shit than everyone else? Porn, electronics, weird ass food, anime, robohumanoids ect.
of course they both want the ram!! :)
Yeah cuz its a better truck
The Tundra's 6-speed auto 1:1 "direct drive" gear is 4th, not 5th as stated in the video.
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I'd be interested to see you guys do a quick payload breakdown. Trucks are rated to tow a ton these days, but payloads are going down for ride quality. With ~700lbs of people and 15% of that trailer as tongue weight, you're probably over the advertised payload (and GVWR) of 1410lbs by 3-400lbs.
Not, too crazy with the 2014-2015 Tundra's front end & rear end taillights tailgate looks good. my 2009 is a decent looking pickup, wish i had the 2015 tailgate on it but w/e.
+spitfiremark14 do you know if it is possible to get the tailgate? I have a 2010 and like the look of the tailgate
I, have no Idea best thing to do would be to consult the Toyota Dealer Technicians and Toyota Forums I'm betting they didn't change much as far as the functioning of the tailgate.
I agree! The dished tailgate and curvilinear fenders on the ‘07-‘13 Tundras was a prettier body style. That’s the same reason that some folks say the Dodge is the prettiest truck on the road. But, guys seem to like trucks that look beefy. Toyota was probably just responding to what the domestic truck manufacturers were doing with their styling.
The ram got better MPG than the tundra
Gm delivered the wrong 1 on purpose because they don't want to get embarrassed lol
toyota should build heavy duty truck solid axle just like hilux from old days
Lots of farmers use Tundras in Texas. They are work horses and reliable.
Carguychris is right on. '04 Titan pioneered the assisted tailgate. As well as locking in-bed storage, in-bed lighting, moveable tie-downs... But it's the Rodney Dangerfield of half tons. No respect...
I think André is a sleeper agent.
We know that now
The car manufacturers' websites show gallery pics of exterior and interior shots. If you want to see images of the trucks, go there. Just a thought.
You guys should get supercharge tundra and then do the towing test
Oh yeah, and tiny 17" wheels on the Toy, and 20's on the Ram. So what exactly is the effective gear ratio of each truck>>??
Reliable Tundra for me.
I wish someone would comment on that the regular cab 8' box, double Cab 6'5" box and crewmax 5'5" box Tundra all have the same wheelbase. So if you want the longer 6'5" bed you get a super short ugly cab. But if you want a full cab you get a short bed.
Actually, Nissans Titan had the very first damped tailgate.
I realize you didn't push the EcoBoost as hard as you could have because it would throw off the fuel economy data, but I would love to see what time you could have achieved with it. Please retest it with the pedal to the floor! :)
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But you have to take in mind that Mr. Truck is a Ford guy. He says so in the 2015 Ford F-450 release video I believe. Roman and Nathan are more blunt and show no sign of bias in ANY of there car/truck videos. I would like to see either Roman or Nathan drive the Ford up Ike Gauntlet, preferably Roman IMO.
Hi guy's......If you had a choice between a Toyota Tundra and a Nissan Titan what one would you recommend?
The Tundra has 4.30s while the Ram has the 8 speed and 3.92s, how is it power to the Tundra? 1st gear of the Tundra is 3.33 and the Ram has a 4.70 1st gear. Final drive of 1st gear is Tundra 14.32 vs Ram 18.42. Power to the Ram!
it's because the rear diff on the tundra is 4.6 giving it more power
the Asus pro Mac is a lie Its 4.30, but I understand you wouldn't know since you can't read anyway.
MrBlurberries at least you payed attention to detail unlike all the teen trash now a days
By your line of reasoning a Tundra outpulls a Volvo tractor with 600hp D16, since you can spec them with 2.43 rear ends.
Roy J Is that targeted at me? Surely not.
but you also need to consdier the time it takes the turbos to spool, the 5.3 is going to make a better power band since its natural aspiration. the 5.3 would be a hell of a lot better in a long haul considering when turbos get to hot they like to blow up, or cease up, and the 5.3 will just last longer towing hard, sure it doesn't make as much power as the eco boost, but id rather have the 5.3 for towing
Why hasn't TFL reviewed the Bremach?
Direct drive is in FOURTH gear on the Tundra, not fifth.
TFL when are you going to test the RAM Eco diesel on the Ike Gauntlet?