Just now, doing subtitles, I noticed I said the wrong numbers at around 01:55:31 - I said "800,000 people" which should have been 80,000. Then, mere seconds later, I said 1933 when it was actually 1936. I don't know what happened there, I blame being outside.
ok so this will be *at least* 2 hours long. very pleased to hear! having watched an excellent discussion of racism in the goth community only yesterday (Shonalika) which felt like a meal in itself, I'm now realising it was just the starter. main course is on Monday.
i think the thing that gets me about these "autistic people are naturally born perfect and special or whatever" people is the fact that i desperately wish i was. I'm so painfully average at everything, and i wish people around me would stop giving me such high standards to strive for because it's sucking the energy out of me. I'm not a "soul that's not from earth" I'm a person and I'm tired.
in the end it's just reverse ableism, which is still dehumanizing as plain ableism. it still makes neurotypicals the only people with the monopoly over the human condition, ie also the fact that you can also be a mess, a little lame or just tired sometimes
For real. My grandpa, may his memory be a blessing, would always tell me I’m the smartest person in my very high achieving and generally very intelligent family. I’m not. He would tell me I’m just too smart, whenever I tried to explain I was autistic, and then tell me that my autism was all intelligence. I blame the media which hypes up the concept of a savant of sorts. Also, it’s totally okay to be average. It’s kind of weird and gross that we, as a society are so hell-bent on exceptionality. That bit’s probably capitalism. But yeah. I’m sorry you’re feeling pressure from all the wildly ridiculous expectations
I have amazing abilities, but I also have remarkable shortcomings and few spoons. It's hard. They see me do something impressive but then I can't always keep it up, especially if it's mixed in with allistic social demands.
@UdderlyEvelyn (sorry for "writing a whole book", it's okay if u don't read it😅) All of that also applies to me so I can relate a lot. I didn't do well in school though. It's more creative things like art, poetry, "philosophical" things (aka just me going on rants lol), "knowing a lot of facts" (I'm sure a lot of us have heard that one before) and other things that are also mainly hyperfixations. But like u said I have a lot of short comings and few spoons, and I can't live up to the expectations. I struggle to create art because of my disabilites and I have to take a lot of breaks and after a day of overexhertion I'm bedridden the next 1-3 days. The constant never ending thoughts and hyperfixation are really draining as well. (I think I might also have adhd) And my siblings parents and the rest of my family are a lot more successful than me and are all way more musically talented and my sisters are both extremely good at painting too one of them has a masters in violin and the other is going to med school to be a dr. My autistic dad achieves more and both my parents have a masters in music academy as well and he has been able to have a job get married start a family. But then I talk to people outside of my family and they think I'm so smart. Well, I am, but I have high support needs. But I also agree that people don't need to be smart or "special" to be valid. You are valid no matter how "average" "basic" "bland" "untalented" or "unintelligent". And no matter how much support you need. Much love🫶
I wish I could be average sometimes (so I could blend in with other people, instead of being the center of attention). I struggle in a lot of areas of life (ex: socializing), but I also "excel", according to other people, at other things like language learning and art. I mean, don't get me wrong. While it is fun to have things I'm really good at, I don't feel like that should make me be perceived as "better" or "superior" than anyone else. Some people just need more time to learn things, and that's okay. I'm not a fast learner in every area either, and people love to ignore the struggles that my ADD, Dyspraxia, and ASD cause me to experience in my daily life.
Schrodinger's Autistic Person, simultaneously a supreme being far above the simple-minded neurotypicals (especially if rich) and a rabid dog that needs to be restrained and secluded (especially if poor). Why can't the world just see us as normal?
It's not though. You put a dead cat in a shoe box then try and ask if you open the box will it kill the warranty. You are a shoe-dinger. Not Shrodinger.
"Aspies are the next step in human evolution!" Meanwhile: My autistic ass is crying and shaking because my clothes have a weird texture after using a new detergent on them.
Right??? Like it's all "wow look the next evolutional development!" until it comes to listening to us about how current societal constructs tend to be obstacles to basic function Like even things as simple as having a reliable product I use in the house aannnd it's discontinued, and every alternative is uncomfortable. Cool, now I have a mental block to doing dishes. And that means I can't make dinner because the good spoons need to be cleaned :(
They are obviously not talking about your kind of autism. But the hyper intelligent, emotionless, sociopath kind. They don’t even see you as "true" autistic. They see you as *R WORD*. Same as neurotypical people. I’m neurodiverse but due to trauma so my neurodivergence isn’t very visible to others, so I pass as neurotypical all the time, people say crazy eugenecist things. I don’t think this is avoidable, it is coming and it is coming strong, and unless we offer an ethical way of doing it, people will do it regardless and without control. Rich people already do.
There's something so genuinely horrifying about calling real human beings NPCs. Edit: Yall this should not be a hot take and it's very telling about you if you think it is.
@@101-q6t genuinely asking, why do you believe that? Wouldn't determining that to be the case require measuring the intelligence of literal babies, as any later accumulation of intelligence can be attributed to environmental differences?
@@Antiikkikauppa03 If people can be born taller, more attractive, stronger, faster, healthier, less bald they can be born naturally smarter. It's the same principle.
@@101-q6t I think it is extremely difficult to quantify intelligence. For example, someone might be great at math but have no emotional intelligence, and another might have an intelligence for reading people but not understand physics very well. I don't believe anyone is unintelligent by default. I think you can choose to refuse to get smarter, but I don't think anyone has no capacity for learning.
I think it’s crucial that we don’t let racist, classist & supremacist notions grow among the autistic community, and I will challenge it when I see it. I know some people see any pushback against fellow autistic people as bad, as in-fighting, or worse, bullying. This video is about ideas, not people. But to allow these dangerous ideas to fester is to alienate MOST autistic people from our community. Most autistic people don’t get to identify with white supremacist talking points. And if you haven’t considered that, then maybe it's time you did :)
I agree but it is up to the rest or society to accept aspies as they are. If you persecut or supress a minority they will fight back like back like black supremicy.
@@swedishdissident3406But this isn’t like that at all? Like fighting back with nazi rhetoric hurts minorities within the community. All the queer people and poc don’t deserve to be hurt by all this within the community.
Pushback is very important. Calling out harmful ideas is necessary, otherwise it will spread. It's not in fighting to question. It leads to a strongter community than one which is masked as a monoculture.
I'm sure you came across this book in your research, but for those looking to read up more on Eugenics in Britain, I would recommend reading "The Undesirables: The Law that Locked Away a Generation" by Sarah Wise (capitalisiation of title my own, as the book uses all caps)
The allusion you made to homo naledi burying their dead (1:22:22) is misinformation. The "Cave of Bones" series you reference here is regarded very poorly by anthropologists. The paper from the people who made the discovery has been given extremely negative peer review and largely discredited. Gutsick Gibbon on TH-cam has a series of videos covering the controversy.
Ember, I'm not even sure how to sufficiently compliment you for this one. But you remain an intimidating and useful inspiration. You do this so well for all the right reasons. Thank you for how you use your brain.
That's such a good way of putting it. I love this channel, even just something about the delivery tone paired with the depth of the information just resonates with me. These videos feel like entering a cozy realm of information and insight.
As a disabled person with a state funded caregiver the 'care needs change' hit home, trying to explainine to the manager 'I don't need some of the things all the time, but I all the things some of the time'
Soo true. Congress hardly does anything but screw us .... We actually change lives, Honey if we didn't have bills we'd take care of you right for pennies....
Just to darken your day a little more: Japan forcibly sterilized people with learning difficulties into the mid-90s. Some compensation was given, but not much, and the courts threw out recent cases for technicalities. IQ tests are still used here to decide if students should be put in special ed classes. They can decline and carry on in regular class, but it's still quite uncomfortable to know.
In the 1930s, several US states sterilized, not only those with learning difficulties, but unmarried mothers who claimed benefits. This included California as well as some of the south Eastern states.
Leople been sterilised in Canada into the 90s possibly longer but definitely in the90s.i remember hearing that some indigenous people , when they gave birth ,were sterilised.
Japan has done a whole lot of horrific things in their past and it’s shocking how few people know about their horrors bc we’re too blinded by anime and Nintendo
Just congratulate them on transmuting from th cruellest butchers on th planet into silly pokemon. One of th Tokugawa forbad th wheel itself as a threat to his tyranny and it stuck...
this all is an extension of our dehumanization. i am not worse. i am not better. i am not special. I AM HUMAN! I AM NEUTRAL! and i AM DISABLED, and that's ALSO NEUTRAL! god. this annoys me so much.
Right! There is no need to overcorrect! We all matter *because we are people*. There is no main character! And we DO NOT NEED ONE, because we all matter.
I am so tired and furious at humans obcession with needing to judge every single difference as making you more or less valueable, a better, worse or not a person at all . . . .i so hate it
@@Gurianthe Yeah, it's the stiff movement. It makes her look robotic, but moving like that is actually a quite useful technique because you always know where you are and where you've been with your eyes/hands/etc. That method of scanning lets you really focus and lock on to an area or a horizon. Had to learn a similar technique as part of my sailor training as it's also really useful for look-out duty or when you are searching for something/someone in the water.
Love that you're jumping all the way into this! Autistic people are people. We can be assholes, we can be manipulative, we can lie. We also have a tendency towards special interests, and the grifters amongst us latch onto this aspect of our disability. I was raised wiccan, my mum called me her indigo child back in the 90s. I fell deeply into this too. I didn't know I was autistic, but I knew I wasn't the same as my peers, so I must be this special thing they're talking about. It was only that I started actually listening to the Indigenous groups that spirituality was co-opting that I realised I was on the wrong path. We're so susceptible to these groups though, because we do struggle feeling like we fit in.
@@TheSapphireLeo not "in" them but I still have holdover acquaintances that live in communes based around spirituality, some of them have started asking me some big life questions in secrecy, and I think just that alone shows how dangerous these people can be. People I've known for two decades feel like they have to delete their messages to me after I reply just in case someone sees their phone and asks why they're questioning the upcoming Ayahuasca trip for the 50th time this year.
I grew up around all that new age stuff in the 70s, embraced the 'indigo' label too. But I dunno, maybe I'm too 'autistic' with math, but they do not really get the "dimension" thing in those circles. It's all "woo-woo" pull it out of the behind, feeley feelz. yes, crystals are cool, and possibly do have extra dimensional properties, but I dunno, guess it's because i'm not a girl. I'm too analytical about it all.
God this is so triggering for me, but I'm not going to stop watching it because it's very necessary. I was raised like this. My mother still wholeheartedly believes it all. It has done so much damage to me that I'm only just now beginning to understand. For example just last week when hurricane Helene was headed straight for her she said she wasn't going to move or leave because she didn't want to react out of fear and that if I cared for her I would put a circle of protection around her in my mind. I fucking flipped my lid. I realized she had been doing that to me my entire life and that's the reason I blame myself for things that go wrong, for my father hurting her, for being abused myself, for a horrific car accident, I should have been putting a better circle of protection around things. It's disgusting it's sick. I try to tell her now that what she's done is the equivalent of religious indoctrination but she'll have no part of it. I go to therapy every week. She's still a fucking moron
“Neurotypicals don’t have an internal monologue.” Yes… yes they do. Lacking an internal monologue is more of a ND thing than having one. And people without an internal monologue are not NPCs. Nor are they unintelligent.
What gets me is anyone believing that NTs are the ones following a script and not thinking for themselves when difficulty processing novel information and mental inflexibility are literally hallmark traits of ASD and executive dysfunction is literally a hallmark trait of ADHD. Thinking that NTs are, in fact, even WORSE at those things is the highest level of cope.
I have heard conflicting numbers regarding the percentage of people who do/don’t have an inner monologue, and thus, whether those who do or those who don’t have it are the rare “special ones” (and whether you would want to belong to the “special” rare group or not). So, yeah, if there is one clearly credible scientifically obtained source producing a specific number, I don’t know what it is and even if you did claim to have found it I’d be sceptical.
@MikaelaRose5 I don’t know what kind of help I can get; NTs will always be around and there’s nothing that anyone can do about that. The best I can do is help myself by avoiding as much of their bullshit and playing as few of their games as I can. Writing also helps and writing satire is something I would encourage all aspies to try.
Mind blown #2: Seeing that montage of TikTokers that think autistic people are special and spiritual...Wow I get it now. I loved that "indigo children" video too, but I didn't quite understand the allure of being told EXACTLY HOW special you are...until a bunch of strangers on the Internet looked into their cameras, like they're looking at me, and said "they don't get you because you're so special you're basically in the future." And it hit an emotional chord. Yikes.
I feel that way too, especially how friends of mine have recently lauded how intelligent I am compared to them. And I was so distraught over the very thought somehow. Maybe I’m just too humble but I don’t like getting praised like that. Perhaps because autistic people are often seen as special like that and the collection of TikTok clips just made me more uncomfortable, especially as I hope, don’t believe but hope that reincarnation and souls are real so I can avoid some of the mistakes I made in this life of not grasp some of the opportunities that were offered to me that I declined in terms of socializing and such. Or act on things that I knew about me but didn’t because I thought it was just wishful thinking. Like when I, as I now realize, discovered I was trans at age 4 but thought it was just a fantasy because I didn’t know that trans people existed and so I thought that „wishing to be a girl“ was just a fantasy that could never be real.
I think it’s cause so many of us neurodivergent ppl have experienced being ostracized or bullied or teased for being so different, in other words been ma de to feel lesser just for being ourselves. So having people tell you you’re actually not lesser, you’re actually better than everyone who bullied you, is especially appealing. When you’re desperate for any kind of acceptance of course being told you’re special is gonna comfort you. In a way it’s the same tactics cults use
At 1:07:55 the lady being filmed is just using a scanning technique that's taught to lifeguards. Sure, the movement looks weird, but it helps you scan the whole pool so you dont miss some kid drowning. The fact that these people see something they dont understand and jump immediately to such a wild conclusion is astounding.
I was astounded when the person behind the camera kept saying “you’re not real” to the lifeguard. The audacity! And plus that sentence can cause so much harm in someone who struggles with depersonalization and/or psychosis. You don’t just tell someone they aren’t real,Jan!!
@@DonTheBass22 ouff, ouch, I agree and all but using imbecile almost immediately after learning that eugenicists used ot to categorize people gave me some kinda tonal whiplash
I think about that video of the woman repetitively getting out of her car, walking around it, and getting back in. It seems like the guy who took the video had never known someone with a drug problem because those kinds of behavior happen frequently with stimulant addictions.
Personally, I like to believe _I_ am the NPC. I aspire to one day be remembered as that one shopkeep that says precisely one cycle of three similar things every time you meet me, and otherwise does fuck all and won't talk to you unless you need to buy something.
I work in a grocery store and this is me to a tee. Some local customers even come up to me and skip the dialog tree eg, me: good morning! Them : yes, no, no thank you. Cause I always ask if they need a bag, have a loyalty card and would like a receipt 😂. My autism loves this!
It's nice to be seen as a person but some don't realize it's a little odd to try and strike a deep connection with an employee who can't leave or be rude, unfortunately x_X
I also get annoyed when people refer to all people without autism or ADHD as "neurotypical". I have epilepsy, my brain is not typical, think about all the variations of brain structure out there and how they can be quite disabling for people, even before the world disables them more. I know people with epilepsy don't go around saying we have a superpower and epileptic children were some of the first executed by gas chamber in Nazi Germany. All to be called "neurotypical NPCs" ffs
It annoys me too but if it makes you feel any better (it won’t) I did see a post on Reddit the other day suggesting that “epilepsy is comorbid with giftedness”. You’re absolutely correct and I have a video about what “Neurodivergent” actually means (absolutely not just ADHD & Autism).
@@Ember_Green that's cool I'll check it out! this was the first video I've watched from you so I definitely didn't think you thought that, just that some people use it that way in your video
@@Ember_Green I mean, I was a "gifted child" and I have epilepsy. I don't think the two are connected. Peddlers of woo will find any way of massaging people's egos.
The difference is that with autism or ADHD, it affects your entire brain and therefore the way you think, feel, experience and perceive the world. If you have either of those diagnoses, the world most certainly acts in a very 'neuroypical' way and creates difficult if not impossible expectations on neurodivergent people, often shaming, bullying or ostracizing them for not living up to those standards. As much as I view autism and ADHD as a disability for a lot of people, I do understand why many choose to flip the script of defiencies and otherness and describe their conditions as super powers to boost self esteem. It is simply an attempt to rebel against the way society typically treats neurodivergent people and regain some sort of sense of autonomy, and yes, there will be angry words and phrases included at times due to many decades of being treated like less than. Should we all strive for mutual understanding and unity? Of course. But I think understanding the context of where the anger is coming from does a lot to help not take it so personally and instead start building bridges.
This is, quite possibly, the video essay to end all video essays on the connections between disability, neurodiversity, racism, classism, eugenics, and the like. This was incredible! So much of what you discussed here were things that I was already familiar with, but I had not connected them in the way that you did. Thank you so much.
I hate the higher vibration crap. You wanna know what happens when things are at a higher vibrational level in physics? Things heat up and become more destructive. Heat is literally how much things vibrate. And wavelength of high intensity usually causes more damage like gamma rays. These people take little bits of reality and run with it until the reality is ruined for anyone who’s actually interested.
@@E4439Qv5 I am talking about quantum mechanics nothing conventional about it. If you vibrate more it’s harder to keep cohesion, things break apart and spread out more. Also String theory is so bunk even the people who use it don’t believe it. QFT is where it’s at!
@@PlatinumAltaria yep, not even Magick, they mean magic ✨ It’s a hand wavy way to say they are better than other people. I am very into spiritual stuff, and science stuff, and crossing them, but this is just silly. If they said something like, a different stability level, that would make sense. Particles have different stability levels they can rest at. They have a ground state, and then from there higher and higher stability level. They are very strictly quantized. So you could say “my spirit has jumped to a higher stability level” lol 😂
There's an inherent apathy towards learning about other people in this ideology. They believe they can tell who is or isn't autistic, but really they're just grouping anyone they don't care for into "neurotypical" and calling them NPCs. Conspiracy theorists almost always overlap into ideas of antisemitism, Nazism, white supremacy, and other such dehumanizing concepts because those people are consistently at odds with bare reality. It's why a lot of flat earthers are Nazis despite having no specific connection between those ideas. You're right to make this video because Cult behavior like this is extremely dangerous for those trapped in it.
i noticed that. it's a deeply antisocial ideology, and it's incredibly dangerous. the less you are familiar with someone, the easier it is to dehumanize them. and a lot of these people who are invested in this stuff seem very uninterested in understanding others who don't appear to be on the same team.
I remember being involved in sci-fi and fantasy spaces back in the 90s and people often called non-fans "mundanes" and had very uncharitable opinions of them. Later that term got replaced with "muggles." I remember being in atheist/skeptic spaces where people wanted to rebrand as "Brights." And then the whole "PC Master Race" thing in gaming. Its funny until you become aware that some of these people are deadly serious. And i see it everwhere in a lot of the progressive/left spaces i visit. I'm not trying to make a "the left are the real fascisrs" arguments. I just think think its important to point our any can fall into these patterns. Its shocking sometimes to see people who are opressed or perceive themselves as oppressed just start othering and dehumanizing people. And if you push people a bit to examine their beliefs, it is amazing how often you can get them to admit to some variation of a Final Solution. And they can't even see what they are doing. Or they justify it. "Well we spent so much time oppressed, don't you think its our turn now?" Our "turn" being the opressors. If you take your belief system to its logical conclusion and your best answer involves getting rid of a percentage of the population you need to rethink a lot. Is it a slippery slope argument if people are gleefully riding the slope like a water slide?
Oh hey, I remember when I thought I must be an alien! Except I wasn't trying to find a way to be superior, I was just trying to find an explanation for why I'm so fucking weird and that seemed to make as much sense as anything else in my life.
I tried to think I was superior because it would cushion the blow of reality. Hell, there are things I am good at. But it was hollow. And I am disabled in other ways.
I'm not neurodivergent but I do have trouble socializing. It can be comforting to think that the reason we don't fit in is because we're too good for them, but thankfully I've found people that made me realize I am fine as I am, and so is everyone else, and not fitting in doesn't make me better or worse. It's a long and hard journey and I've barely started, but at least we started
"All diagnosed autistic people have care needs, because you don't get diagnosed unless you do,". Unless you are American. Then you don't have "care needs" it is just "diagnostic findings" or something similar. Because "care needs" might give us crazy ideas, like health care being a human right or something!
I hate how everyone just feels comfortable filming strangers doing completely normal and non-harmful things, all of those “npcs” were just doing regular human activities that one might do when you’re not performing for others!
Oh I vibrate alright!! *Stims They're all about higher frequencies and the Hz of the healing soundwaves, but then are all like "please it's not that deep??!" when I'm infodumping for 15 minutes straight about how much I love music theory?
Honestly, there's a lot of performing exoticism in new age practices. Intentionally leveraging the lack of mainstream awareness of the beliefs and practices of marginalised communities, to frame it as secret wisdom that the appropriating practitioner ""discovered"" and make them appear worldly. While ironically often performing them inaccurately, and getting a lot of these often sacred practices conflated with new age grifts, and exploiting and erasing the people to use them. Including even using language that just "feels more spiritual" due to racist stereotyping.
This crap backfired on me before I was even old enough to know the dark origins of it. People selected me as “gifted” and “special” long before I was diagnosed and proceeded to instill me with ideas that stunted my growth and made it hard for me to learn to study seriously. And they also expected me to tutor other kids for free, which I didn’t know how to do- so I felt guilty for being bad at study skills and bad at teaching. Mismeasure of Man was very liberating for me in college and I recommend it to people frequently, I’m going to start sending this video to everyone I tell about the book so they can get an idea about it without having to read.
Yes, being labeled "gifted" was a huge problem for me too. I didn't really learn how to study until college since I thought things were just supposed to come to me naturally, and I really struggled all the way through school. My mom tried to have me evaluated by a neuropsych as a teen, and I recently found the report that diagnosed me with a wildly inaccurate learning disability, while also stating (and then ignoring) a bunch of autism diagnosis criteria! My mom also tried to pin my struggles with school (which were really emotional issues due to being bullied at school and having a bad home life, and never learning how to study) to having fallen off a horse and injuring my head, and other random stuff. Every time I needed help I was told I was smart, so they didn't understand why I was having trouble, and I didn't get help. They say you aren't supposed to know your own IQ score as a kid, but my mom told her dad, who was bragging about it while we were out to eat at restaurants and things. Ridiculous.
honestly "gifted" classes should be considered red flags for everyone involved. i had great grades early on and often did work above my grade because my teachers didn't like letting me sit by myself. apparently i wasn't very good at sitting and being quiet while i was bored at the age of seven. go figure. it was just another reason why i struggled a lot more when i finally did end up doing college level work. as it turns out, i never learned how to be an active participant in the learning process, so it went poorly. for me there was also, ironically, a layer of imposter syndrome and guilt, because i'm neurotypical and i was under no belief that i was smarter or more "gifted" than anyone else. i was only "smart" (good at school) because my mom pressured me to be, and she did that so she could brag to her friends about how smart her kid is.
When I was a kid, I noticed that they never labeled the bilingual kids as 'gifted at Spanish' which told me something about the whole idea of being gifted. The gifted kids tended to have college educated parents as well, so it just looked like a form of 'how do we further segregate a school?' It also really doesn't work out for kids who believe they are 'gifted.' Many of them breeze through K-12 and they attend university, where for the first time ever classes are actually difficult and require work. But instead of thinking 'I should learn some study skills' it's more 'better drop out of this program, I guess I'm not really gifted at this.' Like mathematics is like this. At some point, you take some course and it's going to be hard. It's a different one for everybody, but it'll happen at some point.
not to make lessen your issues, but you must understand, most ppl are stp afk. yet they are insanely good subjects to brainwashing. Automatons. And to make smth more clear, even here, were we do not have to learn insane stuff that muricans do, school books are designed to teach you crap in a way that should make everyones eyes roll. I met my realtive, 2nd class. He had issues with filling the textbook. It took me a while to explain to the poor kid that he is not getting anything wrong, but textbooks are wrong. That it is designed like that to keep kids stupid and confused. Chewbaccas have gone a great length to break the kids soul. Is not like that only in murica, they do the same thing around the world. Their own kids do not learn 12y of absolute nonsense with insane amount of homework.
Ember this video is brilliant. It is so frustrating seeing the same patterns pop up over and over again within the autistic community and hippy/spiritual influencers. This is really good resource and one I'll be sharing a lot. I really hope to catch the Premiere and hope the algorithm treats this one better.
The human desire to be special and perceived as "better than" is a very common trait in humans, and there has been a LOT of research into this....inherent need to be special or better. In a world full of narcissism, ego, and capitalism, this is a very easy trait to manipulate and extort. The desire to be special can be a flashing neon sign above the head that says, "I will do anything or almost anything if others can validate this belief"......Be careful, be kind, and have a healthy skepticism in this ruthless world
"neurotypical people don't have an inner monolouge" Ok but I'm pretty sure majority of authors are...in fact, neurotically, and a lot of books/genres use internal monologue heavily.
Statements like that are not only inaccurate, but like, also kind of dehumanising to the fully functional and conscious humans out there who actually just don't have that inner monologue. Much like people with aphantasia, like, they still have ideas. They still know what things look like and have feelings and things. It's weird and most likely just ableist that their and our neurotypes get used as a measure of humanity
Terms like these have existed in different communities in different ways throughout history. It wasn't stolen so much as emerged separately for separate reasons. Though keeping this meaning in mind is important.
I always joke that my kids vibrate on a higher frequency because they take up more space than other kids, I now realise people were probably really misunderstanding what I meant 😂 Never been happier to not be on TikTok. Thanks for this video.
Tik tok made it bigger but this was already a pretty popular belief in the new age, new religion movements, when you dig a little, you discover that this type of ideas have been brewing since the middle 1800s.
The NPC spotted/glitch thing is so fascinating cause like so much of it is seeing people dare to do ND classed behaviours where someone else can see them.
Right?? So much of the modern, constantly trying to make content and headlines internet, seems to cancel out the confidence I've gotten in letting down the mask more. Is my stimming going to get me dehumanised? Is just being sincerely excited and genuinely asking for clarification on the internet going to get me turned into a joke and messed with, like a lot of the bullying from school I didn't realise at the time? Is openly sharing my thoughts in the form I have them going to be silenced because they're "too verbose, not that deep!"
As a brown person that doesn’t speak on behalf of all brown people. I experience aspie supremacy daily. The ASD neurodivergent community only excepts the Sheldon Cooper version of autism. The white middle class with a computer and money for special interests. If you are brown and poor you get treated like a homeless person that you don’t want to acknowledge. If you read this far. That occult or esoteric symbol is still used in my culture. It is the medicine wheel 🛞. But that’s archaic and should be done away with in the name of progress because everything in the history books is the whole and complete story. Quick! Get this man a blue pill! We have one that can see! Assemble the fast action cancel council! We have a brown person that is disrupting the narrative!
As a brown girl from a similar or the same culture, because we are not a monolith, so I'm not assuming we share tribal culture, I could not agree with you more. Especially because at nearly 50 years old, 😊I've only now been "diagnosed" AuDHD. An entire life with clear & present symptoms & significant struggles who received NO SPECIAL CARE, except from my own mother. The closest I ever came was at one point being put into the 'Olympics of the Mind' program while we lived in the city for a few years. As soon as we moved back to our rez & I attended the off-rez white school, I received NO SUPPORT. I was treated exactly like most of us brown kids were treated, as a problem to be gotten rid of. Which the school did exceptionally well, most Native students being kicked OUT within weeks of the beginning of each semester. The rest of my life living in such a place didn't yield much better for me or any other brown kids' lives. These white people are beyond ridiculous with their fairy-tales of supremacy.
@ YES! We are not a monolith! It’s hard for me to claim any identity because I don’t fit the mold. It feels disingenuous to speak for a whole group that spans continents. When I first left the rez for “better” education there was the automatic assumption that I’m dumb. I got held back in math with the other brown person, an adopted Guatemalan raised by white people and hated brown people even though he was darker than me. I persevered and went off to a Catholic boarding school. I had a teacher tell everyone that reservations are like third world countries. I tried to challenge her assumptions and she put me up in front of the class to field the most racist questions that 90’s kids could ask in the 9th grade. I went quiet after that. Ended up dropping out my junior year. Now I am learning how to care for myself and not burn myself up like a crisp trying to fit into this “culture”. This non-existing culture. Like this video that I couldn’t finish watching. It’s one person’s opinion presented as fact. Trying to wrangle autist into one camp or another. Pro this and anti that! Trying to shame anyone that is outside their perspective. That is elitist. Oh, the irony.
The Australian gov was recently hiring neurodivergents. I decided not to go for the interview because the description was very vague. It felt off, with there being wars ect happening right now, I did feel it was weird. This video kept coming up to watch, and I'm glad I watched it. The whole "adhd is a superpower" has really annoyed me. It is dismissive of the struggles I seem to face. But also because we are all neuro diverse and unique. Every brain is different. Great video! Thankyou :)
I had to fast forward through that part, it was too painful to watch. But excellent video. Seeing people like you fighting for human rights, and against the idea that disabled people should be denied food and housing, it gives me hope.
while it's clearly nonsense, that montage of people telling me that I'm not disabled, I'm actually a very special boy was still, somehow, very alluring. It was nice imagining for a second that I was not, in fact, disabled, but a nascent super-being. It's kind of mind blowing that the endpoint of 'autism is a superpower', which has always made me deeply uncomfortable, is fascism. Who would have thought. This a wonderfully put together, timely, and important video. And that ending. Not much on youtube can make me cry, but that did it.
@@TwisterTornado Okay? But we're not talking about all people. This discussion is specifically about the ways in which autistic people, specifically, may be vulnerable to those concepts and thr observed behaviour demonstrating such AANyOnE CAn Be A FasCIst, is a remarkably unhelpful and vapid comment in the context of this discussion.
@@TwisterTornado No one talked about preferences? It's the topic of the video, it's the topic of the discussion they entered. This is like jumping into a conversation about racism in america with "You know anyone can be racist, my grandmother told me X country were also kinda racist" It has nothing to do with the conversation, you're just being weird and making the conversation about you and your grandmother.
@@TwisterTornadoDifferent types of people do smell different. I think the black people who use coco butter on their skin smell the best. But all type are human and should be treated right and be given the same access to food, housing, entertainment and healthcare.
I'm not autistic, I have ADHD, but this "insert neurodivergent type here" is a superpower is just so odd to me, because I have never felt super, no matter how many hyper focus sessions I have, I don't undertand the appeal, I would much prefer the ability to finish something for once and that would be enough.
Yep. Many people, whether neurotypical, neurodivergent, or any other grouping have skills that can be of benefit and probably matching ones that are a disadvantage. Force people into a role which their skills don't go with and they will struggle. That could be trying to get an ADHD person to perform a very long boring function where at some point a very rapid reaction might be required
@@katywalker8322 Pretty much this, and also, the positives can turn into negatives depending on circumstance. I live in Brazil, most specifically in Rio, being calm under high stress situations is a good thing, being impulsive and reactive isn't, every time someone tried to rob me I've reacted, I was lucky only once there was a gun involved.
I feel you. Hyper focus is not a "superpower" if you cannot control it and apply it where it would most benefit you. You can make it work well for yourself if you have monetizable hobbies but how many of us are in this position? I don't care for hyperfocus when I only experience it with my little things I do for myself, and it leads to further neglect of my everyday responsibilities. The day someone unlocks sth in my brain that will allow me to go into hyperfocus at will, doing anything, is when I will start calling my ADHD a superpower. For now, it is nothing but a crippling disability for me.
@@solidsnake1806 very much so. Hyperfocusing on something when you need to be doing something else is a pain! Further, if some special interest becomes a monetized hobby then a fair chance of pathelogical demand avoidance kicking in and upsetting the level of interest
@@katywalker8322yes, I'm one of the people whose hyper focus could be monetised, I always liked to draw and I became a tattoo artist, but the more we like something and the more demanding something is, the more pressure we put upon ourselves, the more we procrastinate, it feels like there is a wall stopping me from doing what I need to do.
I wanna push back on this notion that individuals from a group who experience bigotry, are naturally experts in understanding bigotry. For example, do you know how many Mexicans experience bigotry in America, and yet are bigoted themselves to other populations? It's not isolated, either. A person who experiences bigotry is only knowledgeable in how that particular bigotry affects them and their community. Even so, there have been plenty of oppressed people who internalized their oppression, and assimilated their oppressors' viewpoints. And so shouldn't be considered reputable sources on whether or not bigotry has even occurred. Perspectives on racism should not be dismissed on the sole basis of who has what skin color, even if the situation at first glance seems distasteful. This inclination to do that also erases biracial perspectives. My father is a small, deeply brown (and sometimes racist) Indigenous man. My mother is pasty white and from Eastern Europe. I am pasty white. I inherited few features from my dad, and yet I was steeped in his culture and experienced bigotry aimed at that culture, as well as at my own status as a biracial person. Is my perspective invalid simply because my skin is white?
Autistic supremacy was satire to me to make me feel better about myself.I stopped with that when I realized that their was some ppl that took that for truth.
I still haven't finished the video yet but OH MY GOD the video that says neurotypicals "don't have internal monologues"... NO! *Neurodivergent* people often don't have internal monologues, actually! And not because they're "NPC"s or "just bodies" - there's actually research on it, but apparently some people simply don't talk to themselves in their heads. They're abstract thinkers for whom "self-talking" isn't a thing they do naturally, their brains work better with vague association, some people think in images, or feelings. A lot of my autistic friends don't think in words, in fact. That does NOT imply lack of an internal life, or inhumanity!! So even if it was true that "neurotypical people don't talk to themselves", SO WHAT?! Are we actually dehumanizing people for being wired different? That's literally just ableism, not even "reverse" or a bigotry against neurotypicals, but a straight up prejudice against a psychological phenomenon of neurodivergent people.
Funny enough, most people do have internal monologues. It’s “more neurodivergent” to not have one. I know a woman who doesn’t have an internal monologue. She’s a psychiatrist, very intelligent, and ND as well.
@@gigahorse1475 Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying! Most of the people I know who don't have an internal monologue are ND, most neurotypicals actually do have one. So that person in the TikTok saying that neurotypicals don't have it, and then everyone using it to dehumanize them into NPCs, was literally being ableist about a characteristic of neurodivergence :/
AFAIK I'm neurotypical and don't talk to myself in my head and people react so over-the-top to it, like, they think in words I think in images, I don't know why they make it seem so different 😭
Wow, that ... escalated quickly 😱😁 This reminds me of certain places on reddit, where autistic people voice their frustration with ableism and bullying in our society. Next to these very relatable postings, there are countless of edgy memes and people othering NTs and promoting autism supremacy. It's a really weird mixture. Especially the end of your video would be a good watch for many of them.
You know what REALLY annoys me? People tone policing how autistic people are allowed to vent their frustrations. Just like you just did. "people othering NTs" oh, BAAAAW, poor NTs, being othered by Autistic people for once. Cry me a river. All NTs are complicit in anti-autistic ableism, either directly or through their privilige. Autistic people "othering" NTs is NOT REMOTELY comparible to the other way around. Autistic people being othered by NTs leads to actual negative consequences for vulnerable autistics, especially those with mental illnesses or learning disabilities. What negative consequences has any NT ever faced from an autistic person othering them, other than hurt feelings?
I notice this about many marginalised groups. Not the supremacy specifically but when people come together tl voice (legitimate) frustrations it can devolve into resentment: lesbians with biphobia/transphobia, aro/ace people sliding into sex negative borderline purity, child free people imagining a society straight out of chitty chitty bang bang...and of course all this weirdness
@@91Vault I've seen this so much in so many groups I am associated with. One of the weirdest things was seeing a childfree lesbian TH-camr I used to really respect post a video in which she spent quite a long time talking about how evil childbirth is, edging into conspiracy theory territory, claiming that children are biologically destructive parasitic organisms. I mean, I get being frustrated by constantly harassment about not having children, but that was a serious WTF moment. I remember how commonplace the "evil breeder" rhetoric was in the queer community back in the '90s; which fortunately appears to have died down. One other thing that has constantly bothered me about a lot of the queer community is how anti-science and steeped in New Age ideology it's become in the last few decades. Again, I get being anti-Christian given the abuses that we've suffered at the hands of conservative Christianity, being distrustful of a medical establishment that long pathologized queer identity, and being wary of an atheist community which largely embraced far-right "anti-SJW" rhetoric, but the weird spiritualism they turn to is every bit as problematic and rife with abuses which they either deny or minimize.
Oh, why I am not shocked and shocked at the same time that there is an esoteric aspie supremacy corner in the internet 😮😭 Holy shit, this is a brilliant video essay. That should be on television. ❤
I was one if those "indigo child". My mom (who is very likely to have undiagnosed adhd) was really into New Age stuff when I was a kid. I've heard a few times that I had "an old soul" and that I might be an "indigo child" or other variations. Had all the praise, none of the support or diagnosis for all the challenges related to that. Messed me up a bit to be "gifted" yet so unable to reach my full potential... It's autism and adhd. It's just autism and adhd.
As someone with both epilepsy, ADHD and Autism, I really appreciate the thorough history lecture on Eugenetics, the wrongly-interpretentation and pseudo-sciences that would blossom in the decades following Darwin’s Theory of (RANDOM) Evolution (THROUGH MUTATIONS, OVER GENERATIONS AND GENERATIONS). At least that’s what modern Evolutionary Biology, which (mindblown), has made many huge scientific steps since Darwin was alive, teaches. Genetics, wouldn’t become a huge Science before Mendel’s work were rediscovered, and really kicked off with the first correct structure of the DNA molecule by Watson and Crick, in 1953. There are many important historical facts and warnings in this video too. IQ-tests as a means of holding on to power. The disabled mass-euthanasia part of Holocaust and Nazi Germany is so often forgotten, or simply glossed over. The same can be said about so many other aspects of Eugenetics politics. Thank you for covering, and standing up to it, even in our own community. As for all the «Autism Supremacists» I can understand their anger and frustration, but this is just… way too far. just a lot of superficial nonsense. And dehumanization. Ngl, I do find it hard not to be jealous of my neurotypical friends and family members sometimes, for being able to get along socially so (seemingly) effortlessly. But life is not fair, nor a walk in the park for anyone.
IQ is honestly one of the more worrying aspects to me. not because it was invented to be a tool of fascism, but because it's _still here._ nothing stops fascists today from using IQ as their line, and i wouldn't be surprised if a few are.
The seeming inherent human need feel like someone super special has lead to so much pain and suffering. As for me to be special, someone else needs to be… not special. And history shows us where that can go.
YUP! It's always the ones that DON'T get the special position that I worry about ... History indeed. It's what's ALWAYS at the forefront of my mind, and it sucks REALLY, **REALLY** bad when I find what seem like otherwise-very "progressivey"/"lefty"/etc. seeming people being ROPED into it.
Up till now, I had only encountered autist seeking diagnosis and contact to other autists to feel finaly for the first time in their life normal and brushing of the accusation they only do it to feel special as comically wrong . . . .I sure know for me it is the desire to feel normal and asurance it is ok to be the way I am. I never once thought myself superior when I felt all alone in how I experienced the world
Thank you for addressing this! It's been a HUGE problem in online autistic spaces. I recently commented on a Facebook post in a AuDHD group that I hate talk about "Autism is the next step in evolution" bullcrap because it leads down a bad road to talks of eugenics. And because this was the internet, I got torn apart and dogpiled. 🤦🏻♀️
@@JasonBeilerevolution isn’t about advancement. It’s about who can eat and have more babies. Those labeled as autistic among us tend to have less children. When some of a species diverges they end up competing for resources in the same niche and typically one goes extinct. I just don’t see that happening. It’s an interesting thought, but not based in reality
As a neurotypical, some of those tiktoks really make me feel down. I've encountered this on tiktok binges before. What I've mostly seen is people putting neurotypical down for using non-verbal cues and subtext. Like, no, I'm not a bad person for using or understanding non-verbal cues or subtext. I trymy best to not do it when interacting with autistic people, but it is a natural way for me to communicate (and also a self-preservation mechanism).
I think people forget that not all communication is verbal... and it's very flexible and fluid. We all learn cues, verbal and nonverbal. So there's definitely no reason to feel bad for adapting to other people's communication style- because we as social creatures are wired to do exactly that.
i think it would be unfair to classify themselves as a bad person for communicating the way the majority of people do. i only recently found out about myself, and i think it made feel better about people. i had to figure out why communication was so difficult for me before even considering suggesting to others a better way to help me understand [even that i am often doubtful]. aside from that, trying what you can is the best you can do :)
That’s what your subconscious is doing all day. Tracking those eye, muscle, body movements and interpreting them. We have so much filtering when it comes to faces it’s kinda crazy.
"What I've mostly seen is people putting neurotypical down for using non-verbal cues and subtext." Grunting and gesturing like an ape? SPEAK. Speech is a uniquely human ability. Are you beginning to understand why so many of us detest neurotypicals?
Well... all I can say, is if someone feels alienated enough, for long enough, they'll grow resentful. And from that resentment grows contempt. We see this playing out over and over again throughout history - especially modern history. I'll bet there's a ton of people in this comment section who have experienced this first hand.
Thank you for this video. As somebody on the spectrum who got to painfully travel down the entire "gifted kid to burnout" pipeline, you helped kind of organize and put into perspective a lot of the things I struggled with. Being classified as "gifted" felt like an escape as a child. Finally, if I am smart enough, I get to be considered a person by society! Of course it was a trap. Suddenly, my humanity was contingent on my academic performance. Of doing the things geniuses do. I had to make it into a good college. I had to get straight As at all times. I had to find that one discipline that I could be an Expert in. It destroyed me. To this day I feel the beginnings of a panic attack when I pick up a textbook. It is a miracle I survived dropping out of college due to my declining mental health, because I suddenly, unceremoniously, lost the thing that society said made me a worthwhile person. And really it became the thing *I* thought made me a worthwhile person because when it is repeated and reinforced your entire childhood it programs you. It becomes embedded in your core and learning to live once it is ripped out of you is hell. Screw my intelligence, screw my IQ, my personhood is not contingent upon it and having it defined me limited me and kept me from growing in important ways. My mother had always told me that she would love me and be proud of me no matter what. I used to think she was stupid for saying that. I wish I had listened sooner, but I'm glad I finally came around. Now that I am no longer forced to be a genius, I can finally seek my own personhood. Turns out I'm weirdly good at furry artwork. Go figure.
This, being highly intelligent and proving it felt like the only way to get aknowlaged as a person! I was not likeable, but I had a place in society as long as I was just useful enough. I never thought I was superior or better then others overall, but I had to do better and bring better result to be worth anything, while everyone else had inherint worth. My sense of selfworth compleatly crumbled into dust when my undiagnosed and unaccomodated overexerted teen self compleatly colapsed under the strain of the a levels.
learning about the true history of fascism is actually horrifying and sickening to the core, but it is so important for understanding why things are the way they are and what we can do in the future. Thank you so much for this.
As a moderator for a large online autistic community (200k+) I'm so glad that someone else is as worried about this trend as I am. I've been severely concerned about how prevalent and extreme this rhetoric has become over the last few years, and it seems almost impossible to mitigate. Places like r/evilautism on reddit are particularly bad, these are hotbeds of supremacist rhetoric, their first rule is literally autism supremacy - they claim it's a joke, but funny how the VAST majority of people I have issues with, are also very active on r/evilautism as well... FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS
It makes sense to me that new age beliefs are recycled religious beliefs, and that sitting in a room meditating doesn’t actually directly help the world. I see echoes of that exact thought from when I was taught that we can direct our everyday suffering towards helping the souls in Purgatory get the Heaven faster. Prayer in general, and thinking that our thoughts alone have effects on reality, is magical thinking. But I guess Purgatory isn’t part of reality, so maybe our suffering does have a redemptive effect there.
Oh exactly. I've had an entire conversation with my Mum before about the harm of when people firmly refuse any critique of their religious beliefs if they seem harmful, until I found out the hard way, despite everything, she believes very specifically in Archangels, and will be accepting no critique of them. This is a person who is very open to joking about Christianity, who got very upset with me for pointing out that I was confused that she was making an exception to the rest of the discussion for this specific religious belief.
Absolutely. And very often blonde and blue eyed too. I've also noticed a lot of usage of spiritual practices and crafts from marginalised communities but completely stripped of the presence of the people who developed them. Typically, props or decorations around the often white women, with no effort given to factually explain their purpose or anything. To the other person, yes there are also some Asian people and men in the mix, but there is a noticeable dominance of white ladies influencing these suspicious discussions, that we feel needs to be acknowledged.
Because it's all just ridiculous myths, & pseudoscience BS. I tended to dislike things like superstitions, astrology, and new age myths from a young age, and that dislike has only grown with age/experience.
My aspire supremacy knowledge was just of Twitter “I’m not autistic, autistic is bad, I have Asperger syndrome which makes me misunderstood and better”. Never saw any if this start child stuff. This is going to be fun.
Ok Autism related to uuh closer to god, stuff isnt new but still not great Starseeds is esotheri nonsense about a spiritual evolution, next step special, , totally not mundane autism ( because everyone wants to feel special and that , it also can be trauma coping) Starseeds are the new version, apearently.
Those "NPC" videos are hilarious to me because it's so obvious that it's just someone on the phone, or a lifeguard Ellis-scanning, but when these people don't fully understand what's happening (which is fair, if you don't know about Ellis scanning, it looks strange!!!) they jump to a wild conspiracy theory instead of thinking "huh, something I don't understand, let me find out (or just mind my own business)".
This is an awful and annoying tendency in people. Speaking of lifeguards, it's the 'why are there lifeguards for Olympic swimming?' Olympic level swimmers have had medical emergencies during training and competition, and in a competition the swimmers in the pool might not even notice another swimmer going under because they're focused on swimming as fast as possible. Jobs are often like that. Parts of it look strange or weird or counterproductive, but there's usually reasons people do things they way they do.
@@smrndalodz7182 I always found the "life guard for Olympics" question funny because I always felt it was obvious. Like, "why are there lifeguards for Olympic swimming?" The same reason there are lifeguards for non-Olympic swimming, because we can't breathe water and shit can go wrong.
I didn't even know people considered autism to be superior, but having it, it absolutely hinders every social interaction I have. People think I'm aggressive or mean, I can't start relationships, and the only benefit it's ever had for me is once someone actually gets to know me, they tell me I'm incredibly intelligent, but that intelligence is wasted because autism makes US schooling systems prohibitively difficult. I would trade it away for free if I could, I'd pay to have someone take it away from me. So it's profoundly dissonant and frankly gross to hear people talk about something I hate in this way
I'm sorry for you experiences! I have heard that sulforaphan helps some. There are studies about it. It's an antioxidant that is f.e. in brokkoli. It's supposed to help with processing sensory information and social interaction. Apparently people with autism often have a deficit. I'm only HSP. So I have the sensory stuff, but not the rest. That's why I looked for stuff that could help. I haven't tried it yet, but I will probably. I also heard neurofeedback can help calm the nervoussytem down, but I haven't researched this for autism yet. Maybe this helps you. I wish you the very best!
I see it as more of a scale of what one is comfortable with. I would say you sound similar to myself and while I don't see myself as superior outright I do think that I am more comfortable having a deep and meaningful conversation I am more comfortable going deep and exploring esoteric themes and threads than surface talk about the weather or what was on TV last night. Whereas others are very uncomfortable even engaging in such a way that I often feel bored and feel like it's a shame we can't connect on a deeper or personal level. Instead these types of people seem to effortlessly embrace any new situation or person as an excited yet measured social butterfly that can just gel seamlessly I find that to be a superpower myself as it is alien to me and feels unnatural to do, if I do I get list in my mind with endless questions. Anyway that's what I think it's more of a scale and where you thrive on the other end you simply survive and it depends on the person just how tipped the scale is.
Have a similar experience, high inteligence can dependend on circumstances very well or not at all socialise. Most people dislike me deeply, but with the right people giving me a chance I can have close and successful friendships. High inteligence helped me with symulating and learning social skills compensating for a lot of my disability, but the fact I struggle feeding myself without both enough energy left and an outside enforced structure . . . .yeah I never thought myself superior, the inteligence barely compensated for my issues, only means people do not see and get I need help. And high inteligence is in no way linked to autism to begin with . . .. We have some things we can be better then others like specific Tasks, pattern recognition but how would that make us better humans even if it was not canceled out by the draw backs
Must say, when I was young, I was talking with one other person about the "stupid people". We were really condescending about "normies". At least on my part the feeling of superiority stemmed from having been bullied and ostracized for so long. There was one guy in the media after a school shooting, who said everyone who has been bullied understands the school shooter on some level. I think he was correct. Having the experience of being an outcast, because other kids litterally refused to interact with you, does make it much easier to see yourself as "special". I'm glad I never went further than discussing in person how I don't understand the "normies", and how they're annoying in their "stupidity". I also didn't know autism was considered superior, but can see where people could get that idea.
In early internet days, I (undiagnosed, afab, like 13 years old) stumbled onto the "Project Stargate" website, while looking for Stargate TV series stuff. The homepage was a lengthy personality quiz, and I thought it looked fun, so I did it. But instead of telling me which TV character I was most like, it told me that I was probably from another galaxy. And like, when you've been called a weirdo and an alien all your life, and you have trouble telling sincerity from sarcasm and have a long history of not being able to tell when people are or are not being cruel to you... I think it's perfectly natural to spend just a MOMENT, at the very least, wondering "Wait, were all my bullies being literal?" Despite the brutality of the folklore, I know a lot of autists, including myself, who identify strongly with the changeling myth. When you've been made to feel inhuman all your life, just finally "admitting" it can be comforting. I'm still very strongly drawn to the idea of being something else from somewhere else, and I can understand people who choose to believe it. But heck, even if my soul is a visitor from the Andromeda Galaxy or whatnot, that would really only have any significance for ME. It means nothing about the rest of the inhabitants of Earth, certainly not that I'm superior or that they're inferior. I've never seen the appeal of rigid hierarchy or categorization, anyway. Also, lololololol, Blavatsky. She's what you'd get if Gwyneth Paltrow bothered to make up citations for her woowoo.
I like the werewolf one more, if i guess thats a changeling??? Its a comfy idea ok but like any belief , as long as you are grounded and its just selfaware kinda roleplay, its good probably. Its why i love good fantasy/scifi (and yeah that included stargate, atlantis personally fave, and yes tealc is great, and lexx is good but very strange and in some aspect, its older and thats showing a bit, if still great weird, and damn kai, so good) ok scifi/fantasy is alluring and that not really different Ther is a good place for that and escapatism,but should not let you never distinct real life from that.
lol I read the ME in your sentence about the Andromeda Galaxy as "Mass Effect" and it made sense to me. But yeah I don't see what difference it would make where our soul came from, but the thing is those ideologies are built around a soul > body dualism, as in, in their mind the spirit world is more powerful than the material world, which says a lot imo about how far-right those ideologies are - they just don't believe in influences by Nurture or social determinism or anything of the sort. The soul is everything you are and you'll ever be to them, and they believe they (or some authority) can judge other people's souls and how "pure" and "bright" or whatever they are (or aren't).
you are not different or alien, it just feels like that, i had it my whole life too, it gets better..all people have different degrees of this or similar stuff..
And thats true for quite a lot of autists. Like I find spirituality and religion facinating, like for the single person, not as a tool of mass discrimination and such, but am way to sceptical to really belive in anything
Right?? Like, I'm pretty sure my intense dissatisfaction with "because I said so/it's the tradition" is a major reason why I'm an Atheist. It feels like masking and lying to have to act religious when it just isn't credible enough for me, and when there just doesn't exist measurable evidence that can explain it to me. And when despite having the sensitivity to hear electricity, I can't seem to feel any religious beings ever, even when I sincerely try.
👏🏻! I’ve stood up for neurotypicals and said to stop using this as a derogatory and negative term to describe allistic peers. This is not helpful. This does nothing to bridge any gaps of improvements in the struggles autistics go through. Double empathy is a huge factor and making neurotypicals seem “bad” is frustrating! It’s also why I veered out of the autism community because of how toxic it’s been getting and how it’s all going to snowball down even worse with the trajectory we’re on. I want to build my connections with neurotypicals… not demonize them to be unfeeling and incapable of understanding. The few don’t make up the whole. A few bad eggs don’t ruin the batch.
Yeah, i mean you have every right to get frustrated at people but never treat them not as pretty different people , who are people. Seriously complain as long as yopu treat everyone like people. Even the Asshats.
Thank you for this. Also why do every neurodivertgant Person has to be useful, extraordinary or a genius. Why do we have to have this kind of "Worth" to be in existence ? WHy is being here "not Enough" to be recognized as a human, and granded the same Rights as any NT human ? We should be enough as we are.
I think I'm starting to get why parents of profoundly autistic children doesn't like that people with lower needs have essentially the same label. Imagine the stress those parents experience, then they finally get support from the government, then people on the internet try to convince everyone that autism (and others like ADD) is not a disability but actually a big benefit that we're ruining by meddling with. Superpowers doesn't get government aid.
This is a wild take considering the number of Autism Warrior Mommies™ who take to social media claiming their child's autism is a "Superpower". Let's not pretend that people with ASD are the only ones pushing this narrative, or that parents of "severely" autistic kids are innocent victims to be pitied. Those ideas already harm our community enough, and blatantly disregard the difference in institutional power between neurotypical and neurodivergent people.
The idea that we are better will damage autistic with fewer needs also; we still have needs that aren't recognised/ met, or may have more needs in the future. That idea hurts everyone.
I used to think autistic people were better at avoiding irrational, non-evidentiary thinking. Thank you for disabusing me of that little conceit. Pity the poor conspiracy theorist; how terrified they must be of ambiguity. As an actually autistic person, I am ashamed for them. Who needs political fascism when autistic people are offering neuro-fascism? I never enjoyed being in any groups, now, including this one. Pathetic.
"How terrified they must be of ambiguity." I've often thought this is a major portion of the difference between Left and Right politics: The Right attracts people who get very uncomfortable when presented with ambiguity - something that requires subjective, human discretion. It's why reactionaries generally prefer figurative art, the "quality" of which you can judge "objectively" based on how closely it resembles the subject of the painting. It's why reactionaries are drawn to sects that insist on "literal" interpretations of sacred texts. And, of course, it's why reactionaries absolutely *love* ranking people: If everybody just stayed in their place and did the duties of their order, the machine of society would function properly!
A lot of folks are talking about how this is "reverse ableism", but it's not. It's just regular ol' ableism. These people are trying to separate themselves from labels of disability because they think being disabled is inherently bad or inferior, instead of a normal part of human diversity. They aren't even trying to reframe disability (in this case autism). They are trying to separate autism from disability entirely. There's nothing wrong with being disabled, and disabled isn't a dirty word. Are disabled folks marginalized? Yup. Can certain disabilities be very debilitating to living your day-to-day life? Of course. Does having a disability make you inferior to the rest of the human population? NO!
Saying Jesus is actually a Pleiadan named JIMMANUEL, the BLACKEST name I ever heard, meanwhile Pleiadan ideology (religion?) being heavily rooted in racism made me cackle!!! Jimmanuel is wild as hell.
The video is still on premiere, but thanks for making it. I didn't get involved in this community in my early years (early dx especially for an AFAB (I'm NB), got diagnosed as PDD-NOS instead of Asperger's due to my early speech issues and support needs, a general dislike of my disabilities when I was young), so this is new to me as well. I feel this like attitude needs to be called out especially since I still see it in autistic communities online. Hell, I'm even seen autism supremacy being used to silence high support needs folks and non-white autistics. It is gross
That demure cameo sneak in cracked me up and reminded me why i love the internet 😂 but also... Im so sorry you had to eatch so much footage to get us those TikToks. It hurt my brain to watch them, i cant imagine what it did to you.
I wonder if diagnosis in childhood and warrior Mum’s is causing this effect, because I was diagnosed in adulthood and all I heard about when I was a kid was how much I don’t know anything and need to shut up. Honestly I had a bit of imposter syndrome about my special interests because I dont know EVERYTHING about a single one of them. Turns out I just have the normal human experience of knowing that I can’t know everything
It took me 3, 4 sessions of sitting down to watch this whole thing. But the work you put into it and the powerful message you are broadcasting here, is beyond worth it and highly necessary. ❤ I cannot believe how much work this video must have been. This should be a movie.
Deeply erudite, well-researched, unexpectedly hilarious, and strategically and occasionally obscene. I love the musical choices, which normally annoy me, the costumes, the involvement of others when reading tweets (hi Caelin), etc. Honestly, this is a brilliant documentary. I’ve had some exposure to Aspie supremacy, though no one was calling it THAT, or it would have shut the conversations down fast. But this “Aspies are X-men” stuff, yeah. You know, until this , I was like, ok, massive cope, let it be. But the NPC thing is on a level with vermin, so thanks. I need to be more discerning in my laissez fair attitudes.
Like guys, guys, please stop with all the X-Men stuff, I don’t actually think I have mutant powers, I just want to talk about how much I want to snog Nightcrawler and Gambit
Ooof the Divergent series ruined the word Erudite for me 😂 I hate that the overgeneralising personality factions of that questionable book overwrote the definition of that word in my head. And even though it was YA fiction, it had very similar hierarchical vibes to the topics of this video, framing the "divergent" one as some sort of human with more consciousness and powers. (Also hi Caelan!!)
It was suggested to me by my kooky (but sweet) aunt that I am an indigo child. I was diagnosed ADHD when I was about 6 years old and it's always been a struggle. I don't like being told how gifted and special and amazing I am when I'm in my 30's with nothing to show for it. It's not the support I need or want.
This is a fantastic in-depth look at how new age stuff and fascism are inherently interlinked at this point. I have heard so many people talk about Blavatsky and Thule society concepts and they have no comprehension of how much awful shit is directly connected to those ideas.
one of my favorite things about any of my special interests is that there’s always more to know or learn or even just think about them…. even if it’s like a book I’ve read a billion times there’s always something new I notice or a new way to analyze it. idk maybe I’m unique in that, but knowing there’s more info for me to explore makes my brain go brrrrrr
This video is so good at explaining problems have with people putting autism on a pedestal. Autism is a disability. Affects every aspect of life and not just conversations or sensory things. The idea that autistic people somehow more smart just because we’re autistic is not only obviously wrong, but dismissive and harmful to large number of us who aren’t smarter. Autistics with learning disability, intellectual disabilities, other conditions. People who are ignored when trying to say that autism is some great achievement. Leaving autistics who have less desirable traits behind and being ableist to autistic people who cannot do what they can. Thank you for the video
I have autism, and I am not disabled. I understand many neurodivergent people consider themselves disabled, but I simply will never use that term for myself. Because it isn't true.
getting through the read comments/tweets in the video feels hard to me. i don't get these people. those 'lowly neurotypicals' are just people. do they not have any nice neurotypical people in their lives or are they just too far up their own ass to realize that people are just people. like sure they can be confusing but so can anyone regardless of whatever neuro status they have.
as a lowly neurotypical i can confirm. communication is a skill, and not everyone is good at it. neurotypical people misunderstand each other _all the time._ often, it's taking what we know and making (wrong) assumptions about what's missing. it's kind of like theory crafting, but it skips the part where it's just a theory. i'm trying to get better at not doing that, but it's hard.
Thank you!!! I got super into “the secret”, “zeitgeist”, and was often called or felt I resonated with the idea of an indigo child, and then I kept learning. It’s all bs. It’s the bane of my existence at this point. I try not to be rude and respect peoples opinions, which leads me constantly needing to control my words or not speak them at all because it seems to me that EVERYONE I know is either religious, or into this pseudo spiritual stuff. And as long as they aren’t harming anyone with it I can’t really protest (at least if I did I would be cast the ignorant bully) even though one of my biggest issues with all of these things is that humans cannot compartmentalize things as well as we think we can, and this stuff does eventually bleed into so many aspects of our lives, I can’t escape it. Yeah, it felt great at like 20 years old to be told I was special and had a purple aura, and was in tune with things others couldn’t sense, I was a “highly sensitive person” and was somehow kind of psychic and chosen, but I’m none of those things. I now honestly cringe at some of the ignorant things I believed in relation to other cultures and their religious beliefs, let alone science. Like, I was actually a middle class white girl running around talking about chakras and how quantum mechanics proves magical thinking while not realizing my life was good because or how and where I was born. Now I know I’m just good at pattern recognition and not very good at in person communication because I’m audhd. Maybe one day I’ll look back at this and think this way of thinking is wrong too, and honestly, I kind of hope I do! That means I’ve kept learning.
I'm only about halfway through but I'm so glad to see a real deep dive on this. Before I realized I was autistic, I totally bought the starseed thing. The Pleiades came up for me a lot too. I began to fade from it once my mental health started to improve, but once I heard someone mention the connection between starseed lore and antisemitism I couldn't look at it the same way. I wanted to believe in some divine purpose for the way that I am so I wouldn't feel so miserable about it, and I'm sure many of us (autistic people) have felt similarly at some point. Critical thinking is such a crucial and undervalued skill. Even those of us who claim to be good at are prone to bias blind spots that need to be examined as well.
This is so disturbing. It's one of the reasons I couldn't tolerate the TikTok community anymore. I was tired of seeing constant misinformation & conspiracy theories. There was some good faith creators on there, that were well researched. But it got so overwhelmed by BS I just couldn't handle it anymore.
It's a cesspool that I whole-heartedly believe are contributing to the detriment and destruction of society. Hot take, but idc. You can physically see it. 😊
I'm so happy you made this video and dove into this topic with so much detail. "The next step in human evolution" thing is something New Age-y people used around me when I was younger. My differences were really valorized and admired. The whole Energy Worker and Starseed and Aura and "high dimension" stuff----and anti-diagnosis stuff ignored my pain and social struggles. I wanted to believe it wasn't Autism so badly so I was open to listening to women like the ones in your video. My sensory issues are so intense that even though I want to hug people, it was so intense and I felt so far away from others. I really have struggled with New Age people putting me on a pedestal that made me feel so far away. Weirdly, I am a consulting astrologer, and for a while I stopped doing it professionally because I felt like people didn't respect that my knowledge came from study and working on understanding systems and deeply being interested in symbolism and language---and I couldn't handle being mystified and deified in the way that some people would do. It was so dismissive of the work I was doing and the study and practice I was doing. For me, the Autism has helped because I know my mind thinks really well with systems. Astrology is a study about understanding patterns, symbolism and tracking time. It feels so silly that people wanted me to be a mystical alien who they were being blessed to interact with. My special interest is astrology because it was a way I wanted to CONNECT and UNDERSTAND people lol. This has been this whole thing in my life, too. It still happens but I'm always just like "I can teach you how I'm doing this. It isn't a secret. I just study. lol".
I live across the river from the first eugenic vasectomy site. It used to be a prison. Then it became a Colgate factory on top of which they placed the landmark Colgate clock that you can see from across the river. So few people in our region know that that's the site of the first eugenic vasectomy. However, my state had no eugenic sterilization act because for one time in history, the Bible belt got it right.
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Just now, doing subtitles, I noticed I said the wrong numbers at around 01:55:31 - I said "800,000 people" which should have been 80,000. Then, mere seconds later, I said 1933 when it was actually 1936. I don't know what happened there, I blame being outside.
ok so this will be *at least* 2 hours long. very pleased to hear! having watched an excellent discussion of racism in the goth community only yesterday (Shonalika) which felt like a meal in itself, I'm now realising it was just the starter. main course is on Monday.
@@stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765 Oh wow, Shon does good stuff, I wanna catch that one too now :)
Yesterday I pointed out an error about Homo naledi in this video at 1:22:22, but the comment has disappeared. Did you see it?
0/10, would not reccommend outside.
@@Disentropic1no I didn’t. I have a lot of blocked words on this channel, maybe you used one
i think the thing that gets me about these "autistic people are naturally born perfect and special or whatever" people is the fact that i desperately wish i was.
I'm so painfully average at everything, and i wish people around me would stop giving me such high standards to strive for because it's sucking the energy out of me. I'm not a "soul that's not from earth" I'm a person and I'm tired.
in the end it's just reverse ableism, which is still dehumanizing as plain ableism. it still makes neurotypicals the only people with the monopoly over the human condition, ie also the fact that you can also be a mess, a little lame or just tired sometimes
For real. My grandpa, may his memory be a blessing, would always tell me I’m the smartest person in my very high achieving and generally very intelligent family. I’m not. He would tell me I’m just too smart, whenever I tried to explain I was autistic, and then tell me that my autism was all intelligence. I blame the media which hypes up the concept of a savant of sorts. Also, it’s totally okay to be average. It’s kind of weird and gross that we, as a society are so hell-bent on exceptionality. That bit’s probably capitalism. But yeah. I’m sorry you’re feeling pressure from all the wildly ridiculous expectations
I have amazing abilities, but I also have remarkable shortcomings and few spoons. It's hard. They see me do something impressive but then I can't always keep it up, especially if it's mixed in with allistic social demands.
@UdderlyEvelyn (sorry for "writing a whole book", it's okay if u don't read it😅)
All of that also applies to me so I can relate a lot. I didn't do well in school though. It's more creative things like art, poetry, "philosophical" things (aka just me going on rants lol), "knowing a lot of facts" (I'm sure a lot of us have heard that one before) and other things that are also mainly hyperfixations.
But like u said I have a lot of short comings and few spoons, and I can't live up to the expectations. I struggle to create art because of my disabilites and I have to take a lot of breaks and after a day of overexhertion I'm bedridden the next 1-3 days. The constant never ending thoughts and hyperfixation are really draining as well. (I think I might also have adhd)
And my siblings parents and the rest of my family are a lot more successful than me and are all way more musically talented and my sisters are both extremely good at painting too one of them has a masters in violin and the other is going to med school to be a dr.
My autistic dad achieves more and both my parents
have a masters in music academy as well and he has been able to have a job get married start a family.
But then I talk to people outside of my family and they think I'm so smart. Well, I am, but I have high support needs.
But I also agree that people don't need to be smart or "special" to be valid.
You are valid no matter how "average" "basic" "bland" "untalented" or "unintelligent".
And no matter how much support you need.
Much love🫶
I wish I could be average sometimes (so I could blend in with other people, instead of being the center of attention). I struggle in a lot of areas of life (ex: socializing), but I also "excel", according to other people, at other things like language learning and art.
I mean, don't get me wrong. While it is fun to have things I'm really good at, I don't feel like that should make me be perceived as "better" or "superior" than anyone else. Some people just need more time to learn things, and that's okay. I'm not a fast learner in every area either, and people love to ignore the struggles that my ADD, Dyspraxia, and ASD cause me to experience in my daily life.
Schrodinger's Autistic Person, simultaneously a supreme being far above the simple-minded neurotypicals (especially if rich) and a rabid dog that needs to be restrained and secluded (especially if poor).
Why can't the world just see us as normal?
Hierarchy requires low and high castes.
We're different, so can never occupy the middle rungs.
@@DreamersOfReality Damn, that’s a pretty good explanation. But also a very dark thing to realise.
It sounds like a weird reversal of the "enemy is both weak and strong" notion known from a certain other rather dangerous ideology...
Your user name, your first sentence... chef's kiss
It's not though. You put a dead cat in a shoe box then try and ask if you open the box will it kill the warranty.
You are a shoe-dinger. Not Shrodinger.
"Aspies are the next step in human evolution!"
Meanwhile: My autistic ass is crying and shaking because my clothes have a weird texture after using a new detergent on them.
Right??? Like it's all "wow look the next evolutional development!" until it comes to listening to us about how current societal constructs tend to be obstacles to basic function
Like even things as simple as having a reliable product I use in the house aannnd it's discontinued, and every alternative is uncomfortable. Cool, now I have a mental block to doing dishes.
And that means I can't make dinner because the good spoons need to be cleaned :(
real
They are obviously not talking about your kind of autism. But the hyper intelligent, emotionless, sociopath kind. They don’t even see you as "true" autistic. They see you as *R WORD*. Same as neurotypical people. I’m neurodiverse but due to trauma so my neurodivergence isn’t very visible to others, so I pass as neurotypical all the time, people say crazy eugenecist things. I don’t think this is avoidable, it is coming and it is coming strong, and unless we offer an ethical way of doing it, people will do it regardless and without control. Rich people already do.
BIG MOOD
All you need is a couple billion dollars and you're a cult.
There's something so genuinely horrifying about calling real human beings NPCs.
Edit: Yall this should not be a hot take and it's very telling about you if you think it is.
It’s just straight up dehumanization in cool modern lingo
Maybe they should stop acting like NPCs then.
@@robokill387 you didn't have to self report like that you could've just scrolled past
@@robokill387no one is an npc. Everyone has a rich inner world even when you can’t see it.
@@robokill387 okay I’m sure you’re fun at parties
Every time people mention IQ, I get reminded of hbomberguy's "oh, no, I lost enough IQ points that I believe IQ is real"
that's amazing xD
I do believe people can be born smarter.
@@101-q6t genuinely asking, why do you believe that? Wouldn't determining that to be the case require measuring the intelligence of literal babies, as any later accumulation of intelligence can be attributed to environmental differences?
@@Antiikkikauppa03 If people can be born taller, more attractive, stronger, faster, healthier, less bald they can be born naturally smarter. It's the same principle.
@@101-q6t I think it is extremely difficult to quantify intelligence. For example, someone might be great at math but have no emotional intelligence, and another might have an intelligence for reading people but not understand physics very well. I don't believe anyone is unintelligent by default. I think you can choose to refuse to get smarter, but I don't think anyone has no capacity for learning.
I think it’s crucial that we don’t let racist, classist & supremacist notions grow among the autistic community, and I will challenge it when I see it. I know some people see any pushback against fellow autistic people as bad, as in-fighting, or worse, bullying. This video is about ideas, not people. But to allow these dangerous ideas to fester is to alienate MOST autistic people from our community. Most autistic people don’t get to identify with white supremacist talking points. And if you haven’t considered that, then maybe it's time you did :)
I agree but it is up to the rest or society to accept aspies as they are. If you persecut or supress a minority they will fight back like back like black supremicy.
@@swedishdissident3406But this isn’t like that at all?
Like fighting back with nazi rhetoric hurts minorities within the community. All the queer people and poc don’t deserve to be hurt by all this within the community.
Pushback is very important. Calling out harmful ideas is necessary, otherwise it will spread. It's not in fighting to question. It leads to a strongter community than one which is masked as a monoculture.
I'm sure you came across this book in your research, but for those looking to read up more on Eugenics in Britain, I would recommend reading "The Undesirables: The Law that Locked Away a Generation" by Sarah Wise (capitalisiation of title my own, as the book uses all caps)
The allusion you made to homo naledi burying their dead (1:22:22) is misinformation. The "Cave of Bones" series you reference here is regarded very poorly by anthropologists. The paper from the people who made the discovery has been given extremely negative peer review and largely discredited. Gutsick Gibbon on TH-cam has a series of videos covering the controversy.
Ember, I'm not even sure how to sufficiently compliment you for this one. But you remain an intimidating and useful inspiration. You do this so well for all the right reasons. Thank you for how you use your brain.
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Yes. This.
That's such a good way of putting it. I love this channel, even just something about the delivery tone paired with the depth of the information just resonates with me. These videos feel like entering a cozy realm of information and insight.
As a disabled person with a state funded caregiver the 'care needs change' hit home, trying to explainine to the manager 'I don't need some of the things all the time, but I all the things some of the time'
Soo true. Congress hardly does anything but screw us .... We actually change lives, Honey if we didn't have bills we'd take care of you right for pennies....
Just to darken your day a little more: Japan forcibly sterilized people with learning difficulties into the mid-90s. Some compensation was given, but not much, and the courts threw out recent cases for technicalities. IQ tests are still used here to decide if students should be put in special ed classes. They can decline and carry on in regular class, but it's still quite uncomfortable to know.
In the 1930s, several US states sterilized, not only those with learning difficulties, but unmarried mothers who claimed benefits. This included California as well as some of the south Eastern states.
Leople been sterilised in Canada into the 90s possibly longer but definitely in the90s.i remember hearing that some indigenous people , when they gave birth ,were sterilised.
Japan has done a whole lot of horrific things in their past and it’s shocking how few people know about their horrors bc we’re too blinded by anime and Nintendo
IQ , much like modern woowoo, is steeped in eugenics.
Just congratulate them on transmuting from th cruellest butchers on th planet into silly pokemon.
One of th Tokugawa forbad th wheel itself as a threat to his tyranny and it stuck...
this all is an extension of our dehumanization.
i am not worse. i am not better. i am not special.
I AM HUMAN! I AM NEUTRAL! and i AM DISABLED, and that's ALSO NEUTRAL! god. this annoys me so much.
Felt this comment in my bones...
Right! There is no need to overcorrect! We all matter *because we are people*. There is no main character! And we DO NOT NEED ONE, because we all matter.
I am so tired and furious at humans obcession with needing to judge every single difference as making you more or less valueable, a better, worse or not a person at all . . . .i so hate it
Atheistical: Amen!
And it actively hurts people with high needs who aren't savants.
Haha, I am SO sick of seeing the lifeguard video. She is NOT a robot. She is just SCANNINH THE POOL. It is a trained technique.
oooh so that's why they were calling her not real
I couldn't for the life of me figure out what was wrong w the life guard
@@Gurianthe Yeah, it's the stiff movement. It makes her look robotic, but moving like that is actually a quite useful technique because you always know where you are and where you've been with your eyes/hands/etc. That method of scanning lets you really focus and lock on to an area or a horizon.
Had to learn a similar technique as part of my sailor training as it's also really useful for look-out duty or when you are searching for something/someone in the water.
@@Rodoet001 Someone filming and harassing you must really compliment this technique too /s
Be Bill Murray who finds the Baby Ruth in the pool and eats it. For only then will you achieve true neuro transcendence.
Love that you're jumping all the way into this! Autistic people are people. We can be assholes, we can be manipulative, we can lie. We also have a tendency towards special interests, and the grifters amongst us latch onto this aspect of our disability. I was raised wiccan, my mum called me her indigo child back in the 90s. I fell deeply into this too. I didn't know I was autistic, but I knew I wasn't the same as my peers, so I must be this special thing they're talking about. It was only that I started actually listening to the Indigenous groups that spirituality was co-opting that I realised I was on the wrong path. We're so susceptible to these groups though, because we do struggle feeling like we fit in.
Are you still in spiritual groups, though?
@@TheSapphireLeo not "in" them but I still have holdover acquaintances that live in communes based around spirituality, some of them have started asking me some big life questions in secrecy, and I think just that alone shows how dangerous these people can be. People I've known for two decades feel like they have to delete their messages to me after I reply just in case someone sees their phone and asks why they're questioning the upcoming Ayahuasca trip for the 50th time this year.
I grew up around all that new age stuff in the 70s, embraced the 'indigo' label too. But I dunno, maybe I'm too 'autistic' with math, but they do not really get the "dimension" thing in those circles. It's all "woo-woo" pull it out of the behind, feeley feelz. yes, crystals are cool, and possibly do have extra dimensional properties, but I dunno, guess it's because i'm not a girl. I'm too analytical about it all.
@@TheSapphireLeoI'm making my own group
Acknowledging myself as a higher being while I have my morning meltdown because my schedule didn't go exactly as I planned it.
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😂😂😂😂
The struggle is real
Relatable
God this is so triggering for me, but I'm not going to stop watching it because it's very necessary. I was raised like this. My mother still wholeheartedly believes it all. It has done so much damage to me that I'm only just now beginning to understand. For example just last week when hurricane Helene was headed straight for her she said she wasn't going to move or leave because she didn't want to react out of fear and that if I cared for her I would put a circle of protection around her in my mind. I fucking flipped my lid. I realized she had been doing that to me my entire life and that's the reason I blame myself for things that go wrong, for my father hurting her, for being abused myself, for a horrific car accident, I should have been putting a better circle of protection around things. It's disgusting it's sick. I try to tell her now that what she's done is the equivalent of religious indoctrination but she'll have no part of it. I go to therapy every week. She's still a fucking moron
I’m so so sorry..
@@Ember_Green Thank you for giving me the space to vent. It helped.
“Neurotypicals don’t have an internal monologue.” Yes… yes they do. Lacking an internal monologue is more of a ND thing than having one. And people without an internal monologue are not NPCs. Nor are they unintelligent.
What gets me is anyone believing that NTs are the ones following a script and not thinking for themselves when difficulty processing novel information and mental inflexibility are literally hallmark traits of ASD and executive dysfunction is literally a hallmark trait of ADHD. Thinking that NTs are, in fact, even WORSE at those things is the highest level of cope.
I have heard conflicting numbers regarding the percentage of people who do/don’t have an inner monologue, and thus, whether those who do or those who don’t have it are the rare “special ones” (and whether you would want to belong to the “special” rare group or not). So, yeah, if there is one clearly credible scientifically obtained source producing a specific number, I don’t know what it is and even if you did claim to have found it I’d be sceptical.
In my experience, if NTs aren’t talking, they’re not thinking.
@ Dear god, get some help.
@MikaelaRose5 I don’t know what kind of help I can get; NTs will always be around and there’s nothing that anyone can do about that. The best I can do is help myself by avoiding as much of their bullshit and playing as few of their games as I can. Writing also helps and writing satire is something I would encourage all aspies to try.
Mind blown #2: Seeing that montage of TikTokers that think autistic people are special and spiritual...Wow I get it now. I loved that "indigo children" video too, but I didn't quite understand the allure of being told EXACTLY HOW special you are...until a bunch of strangers on the Internet looked into their cameras, like they're looking at me, and said "they don't get you because you're so special you're basically in the future." And it hit an emotional chord. Yikes.
I feel that way too, especially how friends of mine have recently lauded how intelligent I am compared to them.
And I was so distraught over the very thought somehow. Maybe I’m just too humble but I don’t like getting praised like that.
Perhaps because autistic people are often seen as special like that and the collection of TikTok clips just made me more uncomfortable, especially as I hope, don’t believe but hope that reincarnation and souls are real so I can avoid some of the mistakes I made in this life of not grasp some of the opportunities that were offered to me that I declined in terms of socializing and such.
Or act on things that I knew about me but didn’t because I thought it was just wishful thinking.
Like when I, as I now realize, discovered I was trans at age 4 but thought it was just a fantasy because I didn’t know that trans people existed and so I thought that „wishing to be a girl“ was just a fantasy that could never be real.
Bro I had a freaky teacher tell me I was “the first of many”. She also told me I could see in higher dimensions than everyone else.
Same, I was so uncomfortable and so ...happy? at the same time. And then I felt uncomfortable that I was happy
@@bananewane1402she sensed the ‘tism.
I think it’s cause so many of us neurodivergent ppl have experienced being ostracized or bullied or teased for being so different, in other words been ma de to feel lesser just for being ourselves. So having people tell you you’re actually not lesser, you’re actually better than everyone who bullied you, is especially appealing. When you’re desperate for any kind of acceptance of course being told you’re special is gonna comfort you. In a way it’s the same tactics cults use
At 1:07:55 the lady being filmed is just using a scanning technique that's taught to lifeguards. Sure, the movement looks weird, but it helps you scan the whole pool so you dont miss some kid drowning. The fact that these people see something they dont understand and jump immediately to such a wild conclusion is astounding.
I was astounded when the person behind the camera kept saying “you’re not real” to the lifeguard. The audacity! And plus that sentence can cause so much harm in someone who struggles with depersonalization and/or psychosis. You don’t just tell someone they aren’t real,Jan!!
@@seafoamgreenbean My thought exactly
And it absolutely makes sense because her job is looking out for people's safety, not arguing with imbeciles.
@@DonTheBass22 ouff, ouch, I agree and all but using imbecile almost immediately after learning that eugenicists used ot to categorize people gave me some kinda tonal whiplash
I think about that video of the woman repetitively getting out of her car, walking around it, and getting back in. It seems like the guy who took the video had never known someone with a drug problem because those kinds of behavior happen frequently with stimulant addictions.
Personally, I like to believe _I_ am the NPC. I aspire to one day be remembered as that one shopkeep that says precisely one cycle of three similar things every time you meet me, and otherwise does fuck all and won't talk to you unless you need to buy something.
lmao you're hilarious
Relatable haha
I work in a grocery store and this is me to a tee. Some local customers even come up to me and skip the dialog tree eg, me: good morning! Them : yes, no, no thank you. Cause I always ask if they need a bag, have a loyalty card and would like a receipt 😂. My autism loves this!
It's nice to be seen as a person but some don't realize it's a little odd to try and strike a deep connection with an employee who can't leave or be rude, unfortunately x_X
Just a simpler life, village or city, just simpler
I also get annoyed when people refer to all people without autism or ADHD as "neurotypical". I have epilepsy, my brain is not typical, think about all the variations of brain structure out there and how they can be quite disabling for people, even before the world disables them more. I know people with epilepsy don't go around saying we have a superpower and epileptic children were some of the first executed by gas chamber in Nazi Germany. All to be called "neurotypical NPCs" ffs
It annoys me too but if it makes you feel any better (it won’t) I did see a post on Reddit the other day suggesting that “epilepsy is comorbid with giftedness”. You’re absolutely correct and I have a video about what “Neurodivergent” actually means (absolutely not just ADHD & Autism).
@@Ember_Green that's cool I'll check it out! this was the first video I've watched from you so I definitely didn't think you thought that, just that some people use it that way in your video
@@Ember_Green I mean, I was a "gifted child" and I have epilepsy. I don't think the two are connected. Peddlers of woo will find any way of massaging people's egos.
Good point. Thank you for this comment
The difference is that with autism or ADHD, it affects your entire brain and therefore the way you think, feel, experience and perceive the world. If you have either of those diagnoses, the world most certainly acts in a very 'neuroypical' way and creates difficult if not impossible expectations on neurodivergent people, often shaming, bullying or ostracizing them for not living up to those standards. As much as I view autism and ADHD as a disability for a lot of people, I do understand why many choose to flip the script of defiencies and otherness and describe their conditions as super powers to boost self esteem. It is simply an attempt to rebel against the way society typically treats neurodivergent people and regain some sort of sense of autonomy, and yes, there will be angry words and phrases included at times due to many decades of being treated like less than. Should we all strive for mutual understanding and unity? Of course. But I think understanding the context of where the anger is coming from does a lot to help not take it so personally and instead start building bridges.
This is, quite possibly, the video essay to end all video essays on the connections between disability, neurodiversity, racism, classism, eugenics, and the like. This was incredible! So much of what you discussed here were things that I was already familiar with, but I had not connected them in the way that you did. Thank you so much.
I'm vibrating my rainbow frequencies so high that it turned all my friends gay.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
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God I wish that was me
I vibrated my anxious, autistic frequencies so high that it wiped out my friend group!
Your comment is so gay that i went distance from you and got asexual 😅
I hate the higher vibration crap. You wanna know what happens when things are at a higher vibrational level in physics? Things heat up and become more destructive. Heat is literally how much things vibrate. And wavelength of high intensity usually causes more damage like gamma rays. These people take little bits of reality and run with it until the reality is ruined for anyone who’s actually interested.
To be fair when they say "energy" and "frequency" they just mean "magic", but they can't say magic because it makes them sound silly.
We're not talking conventional thermodynamics stuff here. We're talking _string theory,_ quarks 'n' stuff.
@@E4439Qv5 String theory is not an accepted science, and quarks are part of conventional physics.
@@E4439Qv5 I am talking about quantum mechanics nothing conventional about it. If you vibrate more it’s harder to keep cohesion, things break apart and spread out more.
Also String theory is so bunk even the people who use it don’t believe it.
QFT is where it’s at!
@@PlatinumAltaria yep, not even Magick, they mean magic ✨
It’s a hand wavy way to say they are better than other people. I am very into spiritual stuff, and science stuff, and crossing them, but this is just silly.
If they said something like, a different stability level, that would make sense. Particles have different stability levels they can rest at. They have a ground state, and then from there higher and higher stability level. They are very strictly quantized.
So you could say “my spirit has jumped to a higher stability level” lol 😂
There's an inherent apathy towards learning about other people in this ideology. They believe they can tell who is or isn't autistic, but really they're just grouping anyone they don't care for into "neurotypical" and calling them NPCs. Conspiracy theorists almost always overlap into ideas of antisemitism, Nazism, white supremacy, and other such dehumanizing concepts because those people are consistently at odds with bare reality. It's why a lot of flat earthers are Nazis despite having no specific connection between those ideas. You're right to make this video because Cult behavior like this is extremely dangerous for those trapped in it.
i noticed that. it's a deeply antisocial ideology, and it's incredibly dangerous. the less you are familiar with someone, the easier it is to dehumanize them. and a lot of these people who are invested in this stuff seem very uninterested in understanding others who don't appear to be on the same team.
I remember being involved in sci-fi and fantasy spaces back in the 90s and people often called non-fans "mundanes" and had very uncharitable opinions of them. Later that term got replaced with "muggles." I remember being in atheist/skeptic spaces where people wanted to rebrand as "Brights." And then the whole "PC Master Race" thing in gaming. Its funny until you become aware that some of these people are deadly serious. And i see it everwhere in a lot of the progressive/left spaces i visit. I'm not trying to make a "the left are the real fascisrs" arguments. I just think think its important to point our any can fall into these patterns. Its shocking sometimes to see people who are opressed or perceive themselves as oppressed just start othering and dehumanizing people. And if you push people a bit to examine their beliefs, it is amazing how often you can get them to admit to some variation of a Final Solution. And they can't even see what they are doing. Or they justify it. "Well we spent so much time oppressed, don't you think its our turn now?" Our "turn" being the opressors. If you take your belief system to its logical conclusion and your best answer involves getting rid of a percentage of the population you need to rethink a lot. Is it a slippery slope argument if people are gleefully riding the slope like a water slide?
"I got screwed over by society but actually it is I who should be doing the screwing over."
"the only problem with the boot is that I'm not the one wearing it" sort of think for sure
Oh hey, I remember when I thought I must be an alien! Except I wasn't trying to find a way to be superior, I was just trying to find an explanation for why I'm so fucking weird and that seemed to make as much sense as anything else in my life.
I tried to think I was superior because it would cushion the blow of reality. Hell, there are things I am good at. But it was hollow. And I am disabled in other ways.
Same, I grew up with a Wiccan single parent who believed I was a changeling/fae soul and I bought into it as a kid for the same reasons as you lol.
Same! 😢
I'm not neurodivergent but I do have trouble socializing. It can be comforting to think that the reason we don't fit in is because we're too good for them, but thankfully I've found people that made me realize I am fine as I am, and so is everyone else, and not fitting in doesn't make me better or worse. It's a long and hard journey and I've barely started, but at least we started
Sounds familiar. I used to believe that I was some kind of an alien as a teenager.
"All diagnosed autistic people have care needs, because you don't get diagnosed unless you do,". Unless you are American. Then you don't have "care needs" it is just "diagnostic findings" or something similar. Because "care needs" might give us crazy ideas, like health care being a human right or something!
If you use the DSM, the wording is “requires ___ support”.
One of my friends did her dissertation on how a lot of education/tests have roots in pseudoscience and eugenics. I'll have to send her this video
Great topic!
I hate how everyone just feels comfortable filming strangers doing completely normal and non-harmful things, all of those “npcs” were just doing regular human activities that one might do when you’re not performing for others!
"you vibrate on a higher frequency"
Uh, no, I'm just stimming.
Oh I vibrate alright!! *Stims
They're all about higher frequencies and the Hz of the healing soundwaves, but then are all like "please it's not that deep??!" when I'm infodumping for 15 minutes straight about how much I love music theory?
31:47 "she's speaking gibberish in a way that's definitely not racist" gave me a good laugh. great video Ember
Honestly, there's a lot of performing exoticism in new age practices. Intentionally leveraging the lack of mainstream awareness of the beliefs and practices of marginalised communities, to frame it as secret wisdom that the appropriating practitioner ""discovered"" and make them appear worldly.
While ironically often performing them inaccurately, and getting a lot of these often sacred practices conflated with new age grifts, and exploiting and erasing the people to use them. Including even using language that just "feels more spiritual" due to racist stereotyping.
This crap backfired on me before I was even old enough to know the dark origins of it. People selected me as “gifted” and “special” long before I was diagnosed and proceeded to instill me with ideas that stunted my growth and made it hard for me to learn to study seriously. And they also expected me to tutor other kids for free, which I didn’t know how to do- so I felt guilty for being bad at study skills and bad at teaching. Mismeasure of Man was very liberating for me in college and I recommend it to people frequently, I’m going to start sending this video to everyone I tell about the book so they can get an idea about it without having to read.
Yes, being labeled "gifted" was a huge problem for me too. I didn't really learn how to study until college since I thought things were just supposed to come to me naturally, and I really struggled all the way through school. My mom tried to have me evaluated by a neuropsych as a teen, and I recently found the report that diagnosed me with a wildly inaccurate learning disability, while also stating (and then ignoring) a bunch of autism diagnosis criteria! My mom also tried to pin my struggles with school (which were really emotional issues due to being bullied at school and having a bad home life, and never learning how to study) to having fallen off a horse and injuring my head, and other random stuff. Every time I needed help I was told I was smart, so they didn't understand why I was having trouble, and I didn't get help. They say you aren't supposed to know your own IQ score as a kid, but my mom told her dad, who was bragging about it while we were out to eat at restaurants and things. Ridiculous.
Being labled as gifted should count as a form of abuse . . . It messes one up, every single time
honestly "gifted" classes should be considered red flags for everyone involved.
i had great grades early on and often did work above my grade because my teachers didn't like letting me sit by myself. apparently i wasn't very good at sitting and being quiet while i was bored at the age of seven. go figure.
it was just another reason why i struggled a lot more when i finally did end up doing college level work. as it turns out, i never learned how to be an active participant in the learning process, so it went poorly.
for me there was also, ironically, a layer of imposter syndrome and guilt, because i'm neurotypical and i was under no belief that i was smarter or more "gifted" than anyone else. i was only "smart" (good at school) because my mom pressured me to be, and she did that so she could brag to her friends about how smart her kid is.
When I was a kid, I noticed that they never labeled the bilingual kids as 'gifted at Spanish' which told me something about the whole idea of being gifted. The gifted kids tended to have college educated parents as well, so it just looked like a form of 'how do we further segregate a school?'
It also really doesn't work out for kids who believe they are 'gifted.' Many of them breeze through K-12 and they attend university, where for the first time ever classes are actually difficult and require work. But instead of thinking 'I should learn some study skills' it's more 'better drop out of this program, I guess I'm not really gifted at this.'
Like mathematics is like this. At some point, you take some course and it's going to be hard. It's a different one for everybody, but it'll happen at some point.
not to make lessen your issues, but you must understand, most ppl are stp afk. yet they are insanely good subjects to brainwashing. Automatons. And to make smth more clear, even here, were we do not have to learn insane stuff that muricans do, school books are designed to teach you crap in a way that should make everyones eyes roll. I met my realtive, 2nd class. He had issues with filling the textbook. It took me a while to explain to the poor kid that he is not getting anything wrong, but textbooks are wrong. That it is designed like that to keep kids stupid and confused. Chewbaccas have gone a great length to break the kids soul. Is not like that only in murica, they do the same thing around the world. Their own kids do not learn 12y of absolute nonsense with insane amount of homework.
Ember this video is brilliant. It is so frustrating seeing the same patterns pop up over and over again within the autistic community and hippy/spiritual influencers. This is really good resource and one I'll be sharing a lot. I really hope to catch the Premiere and hope the algorithm treats this one better.
Thank you! Hope to see you at the premiere!
The human desire to be special and perceived as "better than" is a very common trait in humans, and there has been a LOT of research into this....inherent need to be special or better. In a world full of narcissism, ego, and capitalism, this is a very easy trait to manipulate and extort. The desire to be special can be a flashing neon sign above the head that says, "I will do anything or almost anything if others can validate this belief"......Be careful, be kind, and have a healthy skepticism in this ruthless world
"neurotypical people don't have an inner monolouge"
Ok but I'm pretty sure majority of authors are...in fact, neurotically, and a lot of books/genres use internal monologue heavily.
I didn't have trouble parsing what you meant, but neurotic was definitely a funny typo.
@@mxpants4884 😅 well....that works too
i'm autistic and up until i was 12 years old i didn't have an inner monologue, my thought process consisted of scenes and feelings
Statements like that are not only inaccurate, but like, also kind of dehumanising to the fully functional and conscious humans out there who actually just don't have that inner monologue. Much like people with aphantasia, like, they still have ideas. They still know what things look like and have feelings and things. It's weird and most likely just ableist that their and our neurotypes get used as a measure of humanity
@@lilpetz500 its vile to be psychopath enabler. sadly psychopaths have trained stupid autists very well to cancel sane ppl.
Isn't "rainbow child" the term for a baby had after a miscarriage? Seems kinda insensitive to steal that for new age bs
Is it!? Oh my god that is f'kd
I knew I’d heard it before, it is indeed
Terms like these have existed in different communities in different ways throughout history. It wasn't stolen so much as emerged separately for separate reasons. Though keeping this meaning in mind is important.
Unless fascist eugenecists got it after, as these hospitals are also full of them?
I've only ever heard that in hospitals with religious associations. Is it common beyond religion?
I always joke that my kids vibrate on a higher frequency because they take up more space than other kids, I now realise people were probably really misunderstanding what I meant 😂 Never been happier to not be on TikTok. Thanks for this video.
Tik tok made it bigger but this was already a pretty popular belief in the new age, new religion movements, when you dig a little, you discover that this type of ideas have been brewing since the middle 1800s.
The NPC spotted/glitch thing is so fascinating cause like so much of it is seeing people dare to do ND classed behaviours where someone else can see them.
Right?? So much of the modern, constantly trying to make content and headlines internet, seems to cancel out the confidence I've gotten in letting down the mask more.
Is my stimming going to get me dehumanised? Is just being sincerely excited and genuinely asking for clarification on the internet going to get me turned into a joke and messed with, like a lot of the bullying from school I didn't realise at the time?
Is openly sharing my thoughts in the form I have them going to be silenced because they're "too verbose, not that deep!"
As a brown person that doesn’t speak on behalf of all brown people. I experience aspie supremacy daily.
The ASD neurodivergent community only excepts the Sheldon Cooper version of autism. The white middle class with a computer and money for special interests. If you are brown and poor you get treated like a homeless person that you don’t want to acknowledge.
If you read this far. That occult or esoteric symbol is still used in my culture. It is the medicine wheel 🛞. But that’s archaic and should be done away with in the name of progress because everything in the history books is the whole and complete story. Quick! Get this man a blue pill! We have one that can see!
Assemble the fast action cancel council! We have a brown person that is disrupting the narrative!
As a brown girl from a similar or the same culture, because we are not a monolith, so I'm not assuming we share tribal culture, I could not agree with you more. Especially because at nearly 50 years old, 😊I've only now been "diagnosed" AuDHD.
An entire life with clear & present symptoms & significant struggles who received NO SPECIAL CARE, except from my own mother. The closest I ever came was at one point being put into the 'Olympics of the Mind' program while we lived in the city for a few years.
As soon as we moved back to our rez & I attended the off-rez white school, I received NO SUPPORT. I was treated exactly like most of us brown kids were treated, as a problem to be gotten rid of. Which the school did exceptionally well, most Native students being kicked OUT within weeks of the beginning of each semester. The rest of my life living in such a place didn't yield much better for me or any other brown kids' lives.
These white people are beyond ridiculous with their fairy-tales of supremacy.
@ YES! We are not a monolith! It’s hard for me to claim any identity because I don’t fit the mold. It feels disingenuous to speak for a whole group that spans continents.
When I first left the rez for “better” education there was the automatic assumption that I’m dumb. I got held back in math with the other brown person, an adopted Guatemalan raised by white people and hated brown people even though he was darker than me. I persevered and went off to a Catholic boarding school. I had a teacher tell everyone that reservations are like third world countries. I tried to challenge her assumptions and she put me up in front of the class to field the most racist questions that 90’s kids could ask in the 9th grade. I went quiet after that. Ended up dropping out my junior year.
Now I am learning how to care for myself and not burn myself up like a crisp trying to fit into this “culture”. This non-existing culture. Like this video that I couldn’t finish watching. It’s one person’s opinion presented as fact. Trying to wrangle autist into one camp or another. Pro this and anti that! Trying to shame anyone that is outside their perspective. That is elitist. Oh, the irony.
The Australian gov was recently hiring neurodivergents. I decided not to go for the interview because the description was very vague. It felt off, with there being wars ect happening right now, I did feel it was weird.
This video kept coming up to watch, and I'm glad I watched it. The whole "adhd is a superpower" has really annoyed me. It is dismissive of the struggles I seem to face. But also because we are all neuro diverse and unique.
Every brain is different.
Great video! Thankyou :)
"Every brain is different." wrong. they managed to give almost everyone a braindamage. If you do not know about it, you are lost.
Yo this montage of white women speaking in tongues is killing me
IT IS SENDING ME INTO ORBIT 💀 bruh JIMMANUEL!?
@@judysm95I laughed out loud at that one.
I had to fast forward through that part, it was too painful to watch. But excellent video. Seeing people like you fighting for human rights, and against the idea that disabled people should be denied food and housing, it gives me hope.
@judysm95 I read this comment before I watched the vid and I STILL wasn't prepped for Jimmanuel lmaooooo
I don’t think it is humanly possible to talk about spiritualism and its roots in fascism without mockery and scorn.
while it's clearly nonsense, that montage of people telling me that I'm not disabled, I'm actually a very special boy was still, somehow, very alluring. It was nice imagining for a second that I was not, in fact, disabled, but a nascent super-being.
It's kind of mind blowing that the endpoint of 'autism is a superpower', which has always made me deeply uncomfortable, is fascism. Who would have thought.
This a wonderfully put together, timely, and important video. And that ending. Not much on youtube can make me cry, but that did it.
@@TwisterTornado Okay? But we're not talking about all people. This discussion is specifically about the ways in which autistic people, specifically, may be vulnerable to those concepts and thr observed behaviour demonstrating such
AANyOnE CAn Be A FasCIst, is a remarkably unhelpful and vapid comment in the context of this discussion.
@TwisterTornado what preferences? I have no clue what you are actually objecting to.
@@TwisterTornado
No one talked about preferences? It's the topic of the video, it's the topic of the discussion they entered.
This is like jumping into a conversation about racism in america with "You know anyone can be racist, my grandmother told me X country were also kinda racist"
It has nothing to do with the conversation, you're just being weird and making the conversation about you and your grandmother.
@@TwisterTornado Maybe it's the fact that Asians have the gene that limits sweat and body odor 😂 my mom has that and I'm so jealous LOL
@@TwisterTornadoDifferent types of people do smell different. I think the black people who use coco butter on their skin smell the best.
But all type are human and should be treated right and be given the same access to food, housing, entertainment and healthcare.
I'm not autistic, I have ADHD, but this "insert neurodivergent type here" is a superpower is just so odd to me, because I have never felt super, no matter how many hyper focus sessions I have, I don't undertand the appeal, I would much prefer the ability to finish something for once and that would be enough.
Yep. Many people, whether neurotypical, neurodivergent, or any other grouping have skills that can be of benefit and probably matching ones that are a disadvantage. Force people into a role which their skills don't go with and they will struggle. That could be trying to get an ADHD person to perform a very long boring function where at some point a very rapid reaction might be required
@@katywalker8322 Pretty much this, and also, the positives can turn into negatives depending on circumstance. I live in Brazil, most specifically in Rio, being calm under high stress situations is a good thing, being impulsive and reactive isn't, every time someone tried to rob me I've reacted, I was lucky only once there was a gun involved.
I feel you. Hyper focus is not a "superpower" if you cannot control it and apply it where it would most benefit you. You can make it work well for yourself if you have monetizable hobbies but how many of us are in this position? I don't care for hyperfocus when I only experience it with my little things I do for myself, and it leads to further neglect of my everyday responsibilities. The day someone unlocks sth in my brain that will allow me to go into hyperfocus at will, doing anything, is when I will start calling my ADHD a superpower. For now, it is nothing but a crippling disability for me.
@@solidsnake1806 very much so. Hyperfocusing on something when you need to be doing something else is a pain!
Further, if some special interest becomes a monetized hobby then a fair chance of pathelogical demand avoidance kicking in and upsetting the level of interest
@@katywalker8322yes, I'm one of the people whose hyper focus could be monetised, I always liked to draw and I became a tattoo artist, but the more we like something and the more demanding something is, the more pressure we put upon ourselves, the more we procrastinate, it feels like there is a wall stopping me from doing what I need to do.
I remember seeing a girl on twitter lecturing black people on racism because racism was her special interest 🤦♂️
🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭 now that was funny 😂
I wanna push back on this notion that individuals from a group who experience bigotry, are naturally experts in understanding bigotry.
For example, do you know how many Mexicans experience bigotry in America, and yet are bigoted themselves to other populations? It's not isolated, either. A person who experiences bigotry is only knowledgeable in how that particular bigotry affects them and their community. Even so, there have been plenty of oppressed people who internalized their oppression, and assimilated their oppressors' viewpoints. And so shouldn't be considered reputable sources on whether or not bigotry has even occurred.
Perspectives on racism should not be dismissed on the sole basis of who has what skin color, even if the situation at first glance seems distasteful. This inclination to do that also erases biracial perspectives.
My father is a small, deeply brown (and sometimes racist) Indigenous man. My mother is pasty white and from Eastern Europe.
I am pasty white. I inherited few features from my dad, and yet I was steeped in his culture and experienced bigotry aimed at that culture, as well as at my own status as a biracial person. Is my perspective invalid simply because my skin is white?
.....how
@@DreamersOfRealityHey genius... He said racism and not bigotry. There's a difference between the two.
@@nkashamasankofa1114 not really, bigotry and racism are just two slightly different faces of the same superiority complex...
Autistic supremacy was satire to me to make me feel better about myself.I stopped with that when I realized that their was some ppl that took that for truth.
I still haven't finished the video yet but OH MY GOD the video that says neurotypicals "don't have internal monologues"...
NO! *Neurodivergent* people often don't have internal monologues, actually! And not because they're "NPC"s or "just bodies" - there's actually research on it, but apparently some people simply don't talk to themselves in their heads. They're abstract thinkers for whom "self-talking" isn't a thing they do naturally, their brains work better with vague association, some people think in images, or feelings. A lot of my autistic friends don't think in words, in fact. That does NOT imply lack of an internal life, or inhumanity!! So even if it was true that "neurotypical people don't talk to themselves", SO WHAT?! Are we actually dehumanizing people for being wired different? That's literally just ableism, not even "reverse" or a bigotry against neurotypicals, but a straight up prejudice against a psychological phenomenon of neurodivergent people.
Funny enough, most people do have internal monologues. It’s “more neurodivergent” to not have one. I know a woman who doesn’t have an internal monologue. She’s a psychiatrist, very intelligent, and ND as well.
And emotion or whatever inner monologues, images, , i think that is still an inner monologue, because ehats that if not still communicating.
@@gigahorse1475 Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying! Most of the people I know who don't have an internal monologue are ND, most neurotypicals actually do have one. So that person in the TikTok saying that neurotypicals don't have it, and then everyone using it to dehumanize them into NPCs, was literally being ableist about a characteristic of neurodivergence :/
AFAIK I'm neurotypical and don't talk to myself in my head and people react so over-the-top to it, like, they think in words I think in images, I don't know why they make it seem so different 😭
@gigahorse1475 Yeah and also it's not a black/white thing, some people have inner monologues but they shut them down to think in a different way etc
Wow, that ... escalated quickly 😱😁
This reminds me of certain places on reddit, where autistic people voice their frustration with ableism and bullying in our society. Next to these very relatable postings, there are countless of edgy memes and people othering NTs and promoting autism supremacy. It's a really weird mixture. Especially the end of your video would be a good watch for many of them.
Thank you!
You know what REALLY annoys me? People tone policing how autistic people are allowed to vent their frustrations. Just like you just did.
"people othering NTs" oh, BAAAAW, poor NTs, being othered by Autistic people for once. Cry me a river. All NTs are complicit in anti-autistic ableism, either directly or through their privilige. Autistic people "othering" NTs is NOT REMOTELY comparible to the other way around. Autistic people being othered by NTs leads to actual negative consequences for vulnerable autistics, especially those with mental illnesses or learning disabilities. What negative consequences has any NT ever faced from an autistic person othering them, other than hurt feelings?
I notice this about many marginalised groups. Not the supremacy specifically but when people come together tl voice (legitimate) frustrations it can devolve into resentment: lesbians with biphobia/transphobia, aro/ace people sliding into sex negative borderline purity, child free people imagining a society straight out of chitty chitty bang bang...and of course all this weirdness
@@91Vault”When education is not liberating, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor.”
@@91Vault I've seen this so much in so many groups I am associated with. One of the weirdest things was seeing a childfree lesbian TH-camr I used to really respect post a video in which she spent quite a long time talking about how evil childbirth is, edging into conspiracy theory territory, claiming that children are biologically destructive parasitic organisms. I mean, I get being frustrated by constantly harassment about not having children, but that was a serious WTF moment. I remember how commonplace the "evil breeder" rhetoric was in the queer community back in the '90s; which fortunately appears to have died down.
One other thing that has constantly bothered me about a lot of the queer community is how anti-science and steeped in New Age ideology it's become in the last few decades. Again, I get being anti-Christian given the abuses that we've suffered at the hands of conservative Christianity, being distrustful of a medical establishment that long pathologized queer identity, and being wary of an atheist community which largely embraced far-right "anti-SJW" rhetoric, but the weird spiritualism they turn to is every bit as problematic and rife with abuses which they either deny or minimize.
This is an amazing essay. Wow. A firm reminder that neurodiversity doesn't equate moral superiority and it's dangerous to think otherwise.
I find it weird there is a need for a reminder in the first place, it is so insane
Oh, why I am not shocked and shocked at the same time that there is an esoteric aspie supremacy corner in the internet 😮😭 Holy shit, this is a brilliant video essay. That should be on television. ❤
I was one if those "indigo child". My mom (who is very likely to have undiagnosed adhd) was really into New Age stuff when I was a kid. I've heard a few times that I had "an old soul" and that I might be an "indigo child" or other variations. Had all the praise, none of the support or diagnosis for all the challenges related to that. Messed me up a bit to be "gifted" yet so unable to reach my full potential...
It's autism and adhd. It's just autism and adhd.
😂
As someone with both epilepsy, ADHD and Autism, I really appreciate the thorough history lecture on Eugenetics, the wrongly-interpretentation and pseudo-sciences that would blossom in the decades following Darwin’s Theory of (RANDOM) Evolution (THROUGH MUTATIONS, OVER GENERATIONS AND GENERATIONS). At least that’s what modern Evolutionary Biology, which (mindblown), has made many huge scientific steps since Darwin was alive, teaches. Genetics, wouldn’t become a huge Science before Mendel’s work were rediscovered, and really kicked off with the first correct structure of the DNA molecule by Watson and Crick, in 1953.
There are many important historical facts and warnings in this video too. IQ-tests as a means of holding on to power. The disabled mass-euthanasia part of Holocaust and Nazi Germany is so often forgotten, or simply glossed over. The same can be said about so many other aspects of Eugenetics politics. Thank you for covering, and standing up to it, even in our own community.
As for all the «Autism Supremacists» I can understand their anger and frustration, but this is just… way too far. just a lot of superficial nonsense. And dehumanization. Ngl, I do find it hard not to be jealous of my neurotypical friends and family members sometimes, for being able to get along socially so (seemingly) effortlessly. But life is not fair, nor a walk in the park for anyone.
IQ is honestly one of the more worrying aspects to me. not because it was invented to be a tool of fascism, but because it's _still here._ nothing stops fascists today from using IQ as their line, and i wouldn't be surprised if a few are.
The seeming inherent human need feel like someone super special has lead to so much pain and suffering. As for me to be special, someone else needs to be… not special. And history shows us where that can go.
YUP! It's always the ones that DON'T get the special position that I worry about ... History indeed. It's what's ALWAYS at the forefront of my mind, and it sucks REALLY, **REALLY** bad when I find what seem like otherwise-very "progressivey"/"lefty"/etc. seeming people being ROPED into it.
Up till now, I had only encountered autist seeking diagnosis and contact to other autists to feel finaly for the first time in their life normal and brushing of the accusation they only do it to feel special as comically wrong . . . .I sure know for me it is the desire to feel normal and asurance it is ok to be the way I am. I never once thought myself superior when I felt all alone in how I experienced the world
Thank you for addressing this! It's been a HUGE problem in online autistic spaces. I recently commented on a Facebook post in a AuDHD group that I hate talk about "Autism is the next step in evolution" bullcrap because it leads down a bad road to talks of eugenics. And because this was the internet, I got torn apart and dogpiled. 🤦🏻♀️
@@JasonBeilerYou're part of the problem. If that's your vision of evolution, then we should devolve.
@@megamillion5852 into what?
@@megamillion5852 that will be the evolution if we continue to live in a highly technological world as we do now
Also careful to avoid speciesist animal analogies?
@@JasonBeilerevolution isn’t about advancement. It’s about who can eat and have more babies. Those labeled as autistic among us tend to have less children. When some of a species diverges they end up competing for resources in the same niche and typically one goes extinct. I just don’t see that happening. It’s an interesting thought, but not based in reality
As a neurotypical, some of those tiktoks really make me feel down. I've encountered this on tiktok binges before. What I've mostly seen is people putting neurotypical down for using non-verbal cues and subtext. Like, no, I'm not a bad person for using or understanding non-verbal cues or subtext. I trymy best to not do it when interacting with autistic people, but it is a natural way for me to communicate (and also a self-preservation mechanism).
The majority of people communicate this way....
I think people forget that not all communication is verbal... and it's very flexible and fluid. We all learn cues, verbal and nonverbal. So there's definitely no reason to feel bad for adapting to other people's communication style- because we as social creatures are wired to do exactly that.
i think it would be unfair to classify themselves as a bad person for communicating the way the majority of people do. i only recently found out about myself, and i think it made feel better about people. i had to figure out why communication was so difficult for me before even considering suggesting to others a better way to help me understand [even that i am often doubtful]. aside from that, trying what you can is the best you can do :)
That’s what your subconscious is doing all day. Tracking those eye, muscle, body movements and interpreting them. We have so much filtering when it comes to faces it’s kinda crazy.
"What I've mostly seen is people putting neurotypical down for using non-verbal cues and subtext."
Grunting and gesturing like an ape?
SPEAK. Speech is a uniquely human ability. Are you beginning to understand why so many of us detest neurotypicals?
Well... all I can say, is if someone feels alienated enough, for long enough, they'll grow resentful. And from that resentment grows contempt. We see this playing out over and over again throughout history - especially modern history. I'll bet there's a ton of people in this comment section who have experienced this first hand.
Thank you for this video. As somebody on the spectrum who got to painfully travel down the entire "gifted kid to burnout" pipeline, you helped kind of organize and put into perspective a lot of the things I struggled with. Being classified as "gifted" felt like an escape as a child. Finally, if I am smart enough, I get to be considered a person by society! Of course it was a trap. Suddenly, my humanity was contingent on my academic performance. Of doing the things geniuses do. I had to make it into a good college. I had to get straight As at all times. I had to find that one discipline that I could be an Expert in. It destroyed me. To this day I feel the beginnings of a panic attack when I pick up a textbook. It is a miracle I survived dropping out of college due to my declining mental health, because I suddenly, unceremoniously, lost the thing that society said made me a worthwhile person. And really it became the thing *I* thought made me a worthwhile person because when it is repeated and reinforced your entire childhood it programs you. It becomes embedded in your core and learning to live once it is ripped out of you is hell. Screw my intelligence, screw my IQ, my personhood is not contingent upon it and having it defined me limited me and kept me from growing in important ways.
My mother had always told me that she would love me and be proud of me no matter what. I used to think she was stupid for saying that. I wish I had listened sooner, but I'm glad I finally came around. Now that I am no longer forced to be a genius, I can finally seek my own personhood. Turns out I'm weirdly good at furry artwork. Go figure.
This, being highly intelligent and proving it felt like the only way to get aknowlaged as a person! I was not likeable, but I had a place in society as long as I was just useful enough.
I never thought I was superior or better then others overall, but I had to do better and bring better result to be worth anything, while everyone else had inherint worth.
My sense of selfworth compleatly crumbled into dust when my undiagnosed and unaccomodated overexerted teen self compleatly colapsed under the strain of the a levels.
that twist at the end floored me
I'd love to see your work.
who’s up activating their light codes
My light code is blue today
I'm not up to the part of the video that provides context, but my mind decided that my light code just feels cyan rn
my ex's mother was all about this 'indigo child' stuff, who **literally** convinced my ex he was the second coming of Jesus.
learning about the true history of fascism is actually horrifying and sickening to the core, but it is so important for understanding why things are the way they are and what we can do in the future. Thank you so much for this.
As a moderator for a large online autistic community (200k+) I'm so glad that someone else is as worried about this trend as I am. I've been severely concerned about how prevalent and extreme this rhetoric has become over the last few years, and it seems almost impossible to mitigate. Places like r/evilautism on reddit are particularly bad, these are hotbeds of supremacist rhetoric, their first rule is literally autism supremacy - they claim it's a joke, but funny how the VAST majority of people I have issues with, are also very active on r/evilautism as well... FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS
It makes sense to me that new age beliefs are recycled religious beliefs, and that sitting in a room meditating doesn’t actually directly help the world. I see echoes of that exact thought from when I was taught that we can direct our everyday suffering towards helping the souls in Purgatory get the Heaven faster. Prayer in general, and thinking that our thoughts alone have effects on reality, is magical thinking. But I guess Purgatory isn’t part of reality, so maybe our suffering does have a redemptive effect there.
Oh exactly. I've had an entire conversation with my Mum before about the harm of when people firmly refuse any critique of their religious beliefs if they seem harmful, until I found out the hard way, despite everything, she believes very specifically in Archangels, and will be accepting no critique of them.
This is a person who is very open to joking about Christianity, who got very upset with me for pointing out that I was confused that she was making an exception to the rest of the discussion for this specific religious belief.
Seeing a bunch of white women talk about superior genetics is frightening
You didn't even see Asian women then :)
Would you rather see black women doing that? Why specify
THANK YOU. I thought the same thing.
Absolutely. And very often blonde and blue eyed too. I've also noticed a lot of usage of spiritual practices and crafts from marginalised communities but completely stripped of the presence of the people who developed them. Typically, props or decorations around the often white women, with no effort given to factually explain their purpose or anything.
To the other person, yes there are also some Asian people and men in the mix, but there is a noticeable dominance of white ladies influencing these suspicious discussions, that we feel needs to be acknowledged.
When I was about 12 or 13 I was convinced I was a starseed and it is now obvious to me that I was coping and didn’t want to acknowledge my autism.
"Pleiadians", "starseeds", "scientology"; they all sound the same to me.
Spoken like a suppressive person.
That’s because they are.
Scientology is also a capitalist institute and the rest of that is also free on the internet?
All fake
Because it's all just ridiculous myths, & pseudoscience BS. I tended to dislike things like superstitions, astrology, and new age myths from a young age, and that dislike has only grown with age/experience.
As a person who likes a little witchy and neopagan-y things, all the star people stuff made me feel both wild discomfort and second-hand embarrassment
Great vid btw
33:00 is it wrong to laugh at all the people making wibbly symbols with their hands and speaking in tongues? I hope not
in this context, it's not!
My aspire supremacy knowledge was just of Twitter “I’m not autistic, autistic is bad, I have Asperger syndrome which makes me misunderstood and better”. Never saw any if this start child stuff. This is going to be fun.
Ok Autism related to uuh closer to god, stuff isnt new but still not great
Starseeds is esotheri nonsense about a spiritual evolution, next step special, , totally not mundane autism
( because everyone wants to feel special and that , it also can be trauma coping)
Starseeds are the new version, apearently.
Those "NPC" videos are hilarious to me because it's so obvious that it's just someone on the phone, or a lifeguard Ellis-scanning, but when these people don't fully understand what's happening (which is fair, if you don't know about Ellis scanning, it looks strange!!!) they jump to a wild conspiracy theory instead of thinking "huh, something I don't understand, let me find out (or just mind my own business)".
This is an awful and annoying tendency in people. Speaking of lifeguards, it's the 'why are there lifeguards for Olympic swimming?' Olympic level swimmers have had medical emergencies during training and competition, and in a competition the swimmers in the pool might not even notice another swimmer going under because they're focused on swimming as fast as possible.
Jobs are often like that. Parts of it look strange or weird or counterproductive, but there's usually reasons people do things they way they do.
@@smrndalodz7182 I always found the "life guard for Olympics" question funny because I always felt it was obvious. Like, "why are there lifeguards for Olympic swimming?" The same reason there are lifeguards for non-Olympic swimming, because we can't breathe water and shit can go wrong.
I didn't even know people considered autism to be superior, but having it, it absolutely hinders every social interaction I have. People think I'm aggressive or mean, I can't start relationships, and the only benefit it's ever had for me is once someone actually gets to know me, they tell me I'm incredibly intelligent, but that intelligence is wasted because autism makes US schooling systems prohibitively difficult. I would trade it away for free if I could, I'd pay to have someone take it away from me. So it's profoundly dissonant and frankly gross to hear people talk about something I hate in this way
I'm sorry for you experiences! I have heard that sulforaphan helps some. There are studies about it. It's an antioxidant that is f.e. in brokkoli. It's supposed to help with processing sensory information and social interaction. Apparently people with autism often have a deficit.
I'm only HSP. So I have the sensory stuff, but not the rest. That's why I looked for stuff that could help. I haven't tried it yet, but I will probably. I also heard neurofeedback can help calm the nervoussytem down, but I haven't researched this for autism yet.
Maybe this helps you. I wish you the very best!
I see it as more of a scale of what one is comfortable with. I would say you sound similar to myself and while I don't see myself as superior outright I do think that
I am more comfortable having a deep and meaningful conversation I am more comfortable going deep and exploring esoteric themes and threads than surface talk about the weather or what was on TV last night. Whereas others are very uncomfortable even engaging in such a way that I often feel bored and feel like it's a shame we can't connect on a deeper or personal level. Instead these types of people seem to effortlessly embrace any new situation or person as an excited yet measured social butterfly that can just gel seamlessly I find that to be a superpower myself as it is alien to me and feels unnatural to do, if I do I get list in my mind with endless questions. Anyway that's what I think it's more of a scale and where you thrive on the other end you simply survive and it depends on the person just how tipped the scale is.
Have a similar experience, high inteligence can dependend on circumstances very well or not at all socialise. Most people dislike me deeply, but with the right people giving me a chance I can have close and successful friendships. High inteligence helped me with symulating and learning social skills compensating for a lot of my disability, but the fact I struggle feeding myself without both enough energy left and an outside enforced structure . . . .yeah I never thought myself superior, the inteligence barely compensated for my issues, only means people do not see and get I need help. And high inteligence is in no way linked to autism to begin with . . ..
We have some things we can be better then others like specific Tasks, pattern recognition but how would that make us better humans even if it was not canceled out by the draw backs
Must say, when I was young, I was talking with one other person about the "stupid people". We were really condescending about "normies". At least on my part the feeling of superiority stemmed from having been bullied and ostracized for so long.
There was one guy in the media after a school shooting, who said everyone who has been bullied understands the school shooter on some level. I think he was correct. Having the experience of being an outcast, because other kids litterally refused to interact with you, does make it much easier to see yourself as "special".
I'm glad I never went further than discussing in person how I don't understand the "normies", and how they're annoying in their "stupidity".
I also didn't know autism was considered superior, but can see where people could get that idea.
Every time I think I’m too chronically online, I remember that I had no idea this was going on in the neurodiverse community until seeing this video
Same, move for 5 years through autism content and never encountered it . . .. I wish I still had not
"You, the humans, call autistic."
Is this how we get Dune?
Yes! Paul Atreides was a Pleiadian Chadsperger 🗿
In early internet days, I (undiagnosed, afab, like 13 years old) stumbled onto the "Project Stargate" website, while looking for Stargate TV series stuff. The homepage was a lengthy personality quiz, and I thought it looked fun, so I did it. But instead of telling me which TV character I was most like, it told me that I was probably from another galaxy.
And like, when you've been called a weirdo and an alien all your life, and you have trouble telling sincerity from sarcasm and have a long history of not being able to tell when people are or are not being cruel to you... I think it's perfectly natural to spend just a MOMENT, at the very least, wondering "Wait, were all my bullies being literal?"
Despite the brutality of the folklore, I know a lot of autists, including myself, who identify strongly with the changeling myth. When you've been made to feel inhuman all your life, just finally "admitting" it can be comforting.
I'm still very strongly drawn to the idea of being something else from somewhere else, and I can understand people who choose to believe it.
But heck, even if my soul is a visitor from the Andromeda Galaxy or whatnot, that would really only have any significance for ME. It means nothing about the rest of the inhabitants of Earth, certainly not that I'm superior or that they're inferior. I've never seen the appeal of rigid hierarchy or categorization, anyway.
Also, lololololol, Blavatsky. She's what you'd get if Gwyneth Paltrow bothered to make up citations for her woowoo.
I like the werewolf one more, if i guess thats a changeling??? Its a comfy idea ok but like any belief , as long as you are grounded and its just selfaware kinda roleplay, its good probably. Its why i love good fantasy/scifi (and yeah that included stargate, atlantis personally fave, and yes tealc is great, and lexx is good but very strange and in some aspect, its older and thats showing a bit, if still great weird, and damn kai, so good) ok scifi/fantasy is alluring and that not really different
Ther is a good place for that and escapatism,but should not let you never distinct real life from that.
lol I read the ME in your sentence about the Andromeda Galaxy as "Mass Effect" and it made sense to me.
But yeah I don't see what difference it would make where our soul came from, but the thing is those ideologies are built around a soul > body dualism, as in, in their mind the spirit world is more powerful than the material world, which says a lot imo about how far-right those ideologies are - they just don't believe in influences by Nurture or social determinism or anything of the sort.
The soul is everything you are and you'll ever be to them, and they believe they (or some authority) can judge other people's souls and how "pure" and "bright" or whatever they are (or aren't).
I had a very similar experience looking for X-Men Evolution fanfiction when I was like 12
you are not different or alien, it just feels like that, i had it my whole life too, it gets better..all people have different degrees of this or similar stuff..
these people referring to autistics as more spiritual or whatever is hilarious to me because i'm about the least spiritual person i know
And thats true for quite a lot of autists.
Like I find spirituality and religion facinating, like for the single person, not as a tool of mass discrimination and such, but am way to sceptical to really belive in anything
Right?? Like, I'm pretty sure my intense dissatisfaction with "because I said so/it's the tradition" is a major reason why I'm an Atheist. It feels like masking and lying to have to act religious when it just isn't credible enough for me, and when there just doesn't exist measurable evidence that can explain it to me.
And when despite having the sensitivity to hear electricity, I can't seem to feel any religious beings ever, even when I sincerely try.
Honestly, hearing autists dehumanizing neurotypicals is soooo triggering for me... I'm grinding my teeth here (and I'm AuDHD).
It’s triggering for me too. There’s no justification for it. We aren’t better or worse. We’re all just people.
👏🏻!
I’ve stood up for neurotypicals and said to stop using this as a derogatory and negative term to describe allistic peers. This is not helpful. This does nothing to bridge any gaps of improvements in the struggles autistics go through. Double empathy is a huge factor and making neurotypicals seem “bad” is frustrating!
It’s also why I veered out of the autism community because of how toxic it’s been getting and how it’s all going to snowball down even worse with the trajectory we’re on.
I want to build my connections with neurotypicals… not demonize them to be unfeeling and incapable of understanding. The few don’t make up the whole. A few bad eggs don’t ruin the batch.
well it's not like they haven't done a fair share of it themselves
seconded!
Yeah, i mean you have every right to get frustrated at people but never treat them not as pretty different people , who are people. Seriously complain as long as yopu treat everyone like people. Even the Asshats.
Thank you for this. Also why do every neurodivertgant Person has to be useful, extraordinary or a genius. Why do we have to have this kind of "Worth" to be in existence ? WHy is being here "not Enough" to be recognized as a human, and granded the same Rights as any NT human ? We should be enough as we are.
Because we need to decolonize this planet and bring in better change, more and more in our inverted ecofascist environments?
This is absolutely one of the best things I've found on the internet recently. Thank you so much for putting this together.
I think I'm starting to get why parents of profoundly autistic children doesn't like that people with lower needs have essentially the same label. Imagine the stress those parents experience, then they finally get support from the government, then people on the internet try to convince everyone that autism (and others like ADD) is not a disability but actually a big benefit that we're ruining by meddling with. Superpowers doesn't get government aid.
This is a wild take considering the number of Autism Warrior Mommies™ who take to social media claiming their child's autism is a "Superpower". Let's not pretend that people with ASD are the only ones pushing this narrative, or that parents of "severely" autistic kids are innocent victims to be pitied. Those ideas already harm our community enough, and blatantly disregard the difference in institutional power between neurotypical and neurodivergent people.
The idea that we are better will damage autistic with fewer needs also; we still have needs that aren't recognised/ met, or may have more needs in the future. That idea hurts everyone.
"Superpowers doesn't get government aid" was not a line I was ready for today, but yeah, fair point.
I used to think autistic people were better at avoiding irrational, non-evidentiary thinking.
Thank you for disabusing me of that little conceit.
Pity the poor conspiracy theorist; how terrified they must be of ambiguity.
As an actually autistic person, I am ashamed for them. Who needs political fascism when autistic people are offering neuro-fascism?
I never enjoyed being in any groups, now, including this one.
Pathetic.
"How terrified they must be of ambiguity."
I've often thought this is a major portion of the difference between Left and Right politics: The Right attracts people who get very uncomfortable when presented with ambiguity - something that requires subjective, human discretion. It's why reactionaries generally prefer figurative art, the "quality" of which you can judge "objectively" based on how closely it resembles the subject of the painting. It's why reactionaries are drawn to sects that insist on "literal" interpretations of sacred texts. And, of course, it's why reactionaries absolutely *love* ranking people: If everybody just stayed in their place and did the duties of their order, the machine of society would function properly!
A lot of folks are talking about how this is "reverse ableism", but it's not. It's just regular ol' ableism. These people are trying to separate themselves from labels of disability because they think being disabled is inherently bad or inferior, instead of a normal part of human diversity.
They aren't even trying to reframe disability (in this case autism). They are trying to separate autism from disability entirely. There's nothing wrong with being disabled, and disabled isn't a dirty word. Are disabled folks marginalized? Yup. Can certain disabilities be very debilitating to living your day-to-day life? Of course. Does having a disability make you inferior to the rest of the human population? NO!
I am autistic, and I am not disabled. It's simply untrue to state otherwise.
All the people “speaking Pleiadian” are instantly recognizable to anyone who has seen members of a charismatic church speak in tongues.
Yep I grew up with it. Sounds like my mom anytime she had to slam the brakes in the car.
Yah
star wars fake alien language 😂
Saying Jesus is actually a Pleiadan named JIMMANUEL, the BLACKEST name I ever heard, meanwhile Pleiadan ideology (religion?) being heavily rooted in racism made me cackle!!! Jimmanuel is wild as hell.
Is it? I'm not American so to me the name just sounded funny, not race-coded in any way.
@@paweldembowski yes, we are often mocked with or name choices. Some of which include putting a prefix on older names. Like "Jamarcus" for instance.
The video is still on premiere, but thanks for making it. I didn't get involved in this community in my early years (early dx especially for an AFAB (I'm NB), got diagnosed as PDD-NOS instead of Asperger's due to my early speech issues and support needs, a general dislike of my disabilities when I was young), so this is new to me as well.
I feel this like attitude needs to be called out especially since I still see it in autistic communities online. Hell, I'm even seen autism supremacy being used to silence high support needs folks and non-white autistics. It is gross
That demure cameo sneak in cracked me up and reminded me why i love the internet 😂 but also... Im so sorry you had to eatch so much footage to get us those TikToks. It hurt my brain to watch them, i cant imagine what it did to you.
I love librarian Amber cameo ❤ the set, the jokes, the candles, the serious not serious exposition
@@wen6519 Yes, me too! But I kept thinking - how's her hair colour changing all the time???
@@pardalotewigs would be the easiest way
I wonder if diagnosis in childhood and warrior Mum’s is causing this effect, because I was diagnosed in adulthood and all I heard about when I was a kid was how much I don’t know anything and need to shut up. Honestly I had a bit of imposter syndrome about my special interests because I dont know EVERYTHING about a single one of them. Turns out I just have the normal human experience of knowing that I can’t know everything
It took me 3, 4 sessions of sitting down to watch this whole thing. But the work you put into it and the powerful message you are broadcasting here, is beyond worth it and highly necessary. ❤
I cannot believe how much work this video must have been. This should be a movie.
@1:07:21 there's a tragic sort of hypocrisy to presumed-neurodivergent people deciding to dehumanize someone for being vaguely weird in public.
For real. It's all fun and games until you realize that the person behaving strangely at the sidewalk was actually stimming or something
Deeply erudite, well-researched, unexpectedly hilarious, and strategically and occasionally obscene. I love the musical choices, which normally annoy me, the costumes, the involvement of others when reading tweets (hi Caelin), etc. Honestly, this is a brilliant documentary. I’ve had some exposure to Aspie supremacy, though no one was calling it THAT, or it would have shut the conversations down fast. But this “Aspies are X-men” stuff, yeah.
You know, until this , I was like, ok, massive cope, let it be. But the NPC thing is on a level with vermin, so thanks. I need to be more discerning in my laissez fair attitudes.
Like guys, guys, please stop with all the X-Men stuff, I don’t actually think I have mutant powers, I just want to talk about how much I want to snog Nightcrawler and Gambit
Vermin? Is that a reference, or speciesism?
@@TheSapphireLeo The first option.
Ooof the Divergent series ruined the word Erudite for me 😂
I hate that the overgeneralising personality factions of that questionable book overwrote the definition of that word in my head. And even though it was YA fiction, it had very similar hierarchical vibes to the topics of this video, framing the "divergent" one as some sort of human with more consciousness and powers.
(Also hi Caelan!!)
Caelan's "Cope and Seethe" is my new earworm
I'm telling them this..
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Speciesist analogy to worms and animals, though?
@@TheSapphireLeowhat’s that even mean. That implies hatred or bad intentions. I don’t see that
It was suggested to me by my kooky (but sweet) aunt that I am an indigo child. I was diagnosed ADHD when I was about 6 years old and it's always been a struggle. I don't like being told how gifted and special and amazing I am when I'm in my 30's with nothing to show for it. It's not the support I need or want.
This is a fantastic in-depth look at how new age stuff and fascism are inherently interlinked at this point. I have heard so many people talk about Blavatsky and Thule society concepts and they have no comprehension of how much awful shit is directly connected to those ideas.
one of my favorite things about any of my special interests is that there’s always more to know or learn or even just think about them…. even if it’s like a book I’ve read a billion times there’s always something new I notice or a new way to analyze it. idk maybe I’m unique in that, but knowing there’s more info for me to explore makes my brain go brrrrrr
I’m getting super into plants rn and I feel the exact same way. Like there are MILLIONS of them and there’s so much to learn about each one 🤩
Do you think that One was looking at these Tiktoks and Twitters? Because these "Aspie Supremacies" sound like the bad guys in Mob Psycho 100.
Finally I've been waiting for ages for someone to talk about this really looking forward to this video!
This video is so good at explaining problems have with people putting autism on a pedestal. Autism is a disability. Affects every aspect of life and not just conversations or sensory things. The idea that autistic people somehow more smart just because we’re autistic is not only obviously wrong, but dismissive and harmful to large number of us who aren’t smarter. Autistics with learning disability, intellectual disabilities, other conditions. People who are ignored when trying to say that autism is some great achievement. Leaving autistics who have less desirable traits behind and being ableist to autistic people who cannot do what they can. Thank you for the video
I have autism, and I am not disabled. I understand many neurodivergent people consider themselves disabled, but I simply will never use that term for myself.
Because it isn't true.
getting through the read comments/tweets in the video feels hard to me. i don't get these people. those 'lowly neurotypicals' are just people. do they not have any nice neurotypical people in their lives or are they just too far up their own ass to realize that people are just people. like sure they can be confusing but so can anyone regardless of whatever neuro status they have.
as a lowly neurotypical i can confirm. communication is a skill, and not everyone is good at it. neurotypical people misunderstand each other _all the time._ often, it's taking what we know and making (wrong) assumptions about what's missing. it's kind of like theory crafting, but it skips the part where it's just a theory. i'm trying to get better at not doing that, but it's hard.
Thank you!!! I got super into “the secret”, “zeitgeist”, and was often called or felt I resonated with the idea of an indigo child, and then I kept learning. It’s all bs. It’s the bane of my existence at this point. I try not to be rude and respect peoples opinions, which leads me constantly needing to control my words or not speak them at all because it seems to me that EVERYONE I know is either religious, or into this pseudo spiritual stuff. And as long as they aren’t harming anyone with it I can’t really protest (at least if I did I would be cast the ignorant bully) even though one of my biggest issues with all of these things is that humans cannot compartmentalize things as well as we think we can, and this stuff does eventually bleed into so many aspects of our lives, I can’t escape it. Yeah, it felt great at like 20 years old to be told
I was special and had a purple aura, and was in tune with things others couldn’t sense, I was a “highly sensitive person” and was somehow kind of psychic and chosen, but I’m none of those things. I now honestly cringe at some of the ignorant things I believed in relation to other cultures and their religious beliefs, let alone science. Like, I was actually a middle class white girl running around talking about chakras and how quantum mechanics proves magical thinking while not realizing my life was good because or how and where I was born. Now I know I’m just good at pattern recognition and not very good at in person communication because I’m audhd. Maybe one day I’ll look back at this and think this way of thinking is wrong too, and honestly, I kind of hope I do! That means I’ve kept learning.
I'm only about halfway through but I'm so glad to see a real deep dive on this. Before I realized I was autistic, I totally bought the starseed thing. The Pleiades came up for me a lot too. I began to fade from it once my mental health started to improve, but once I heard someone mention the connection between starseed lore and antisemitism I couldn't look at it the same way. I wanted to believe in some divine purpose for the way that I am so I wouldn't feel so miserable about it, and I'm sure many of us (autistic people) have felt similarly at some point. Critical thinking is such a crucial and undervalued skill. Even those of us who claim to be good at are prone to bias blind spots that need to be examined as well.
This is so disturbing. It's one of the reasons I couldn't tolerate the TikTok community anymore. I was tired of seeing constant misinformation & conspiracy theories. There was some good faith creators on there, that were well researched. But it got so overwhelmed by BS I just couldn't handle it anymore.
It's a cesspool that I whole-heartedly believe are contributing to the detriment and destruction of society. Hot take, but idc. You can physically see it. 😊
I'm so happy you made this video and dove into this topic with so much detail. "The next step in human evolution" thing is something New Age-y people used around me when I was younger. My differences were really valorized and admired. The whole Energy Worker and Starseed and Aura and "high dimension" stuff----and anti-diagnosis stuff ignored my pain and social struggles. I wanted to believe it wasn't Autism so badly so I was open to listening to women like the ones in your video. My sensory issues are so intense that even though I want to hug people, it was so intense and I felt so far away from others. I really have struggled with New Age people putting me on a pedestal that made me feel so far away. Weirdly, I am a consulting astrologer, and for a while I stopped doing it professionally because I felt like people didn't respect that my knowledge came from study and working on understanding systems and deeply being interested in symbolism and language---and I couldn't handle being mystified and deified in the way that some people would do. It was so dismissive of the work I was doing and the study and practice I was doing. For me, the Autism has helped because I know my mind thinks really well with systems. Astrology is a study about understanding patterns, symbolism and tracking time. It feels so silly that people wanted me to be a mystical alien who they were being blessed to interact with. My special interest is astrology because it was a way I wanted to CONNECT and UNDERSTAND people lol. This has been this whole thing in my life, too. It still happens but I'm always just like "I can teach you how I'm doing this. It isn't a secret. I just study. lol".
I live across the river from the first eugenic vasectomy site. It used to be a prison. Then it became a Colgate factory on top of which they placed the landmark Colgate clock that you can see from across the river. So few people in our region know that that's the site of the first eugenic vasectomy. However, my state had no eugenic sterilization act because for one time in history, the Bible belt got it right.