Had a 2020 sr5 just bought a 2023 limited. I tow 5 days a week various weights. I love my 23 for towing it is very responsive no turbo lag and the 10 speed transmission is wonderful. The old 6 speed would down shift often. The new truck very seldom down shifts. 2020 had 119,000 on it and no issues whatsoever only maintenance. If the 2023 has the same quality it will be an awesome truck.
I'm so confused... All this world beater talk does this lead in any way over the competition? They said aerodynamics and reasons for no tow hooks but it doesn't get any better MPG than the F150 what the heck is going on? Then they tell us no pro power equivalent, you don't need it 😆 Toyota come on lol
TOYOTA has made a VERY BIG MISTAKE ( and I am a 100% Toyota loyalist ! ) The 2022 Tundra has an "active air dam " underneath , up front. At high speed, it deploys to direct air to the sides. At low speed, it folds up to restore full ground clearance. This "active air dam" PREVENTS Tundras from having FRONT TOW HOOKS which to work properly must be attached to the frame . An off-road vehicle without tow hooks ???? You will not be pulling your buddy out of a snow bank or no one is going to be pulling you out of a mud bog . Tow Hooks are essential for every off-roader . Huge Oversight by Toyota !
Toyota is offering tow hooks as an Accessory for all the new Tundra. Agree they should be standard, but just buy them and install them. Much like not having ones preferred tire brand or size, not a deal breaker.
@@MrChadx1 The article I read had a Toyota engineer saying the active air dam makes tow hooks impossible . I wonder if he is wrong or if the active air dam has to be tossed or bumper must be cut to add those tow hooks listed as accessories ?
Don’t kid yourself. They are not putting tow hooks as a standard feature because chances are pretty slim that you will ever need recovery hooks at the grocery store or a church parking lot where 99% of those trucks will be used 🙄. For the 1% of those who use trucks for truck thing I’m sure they’ll have optional hooks available
@@michalp2362 ….As a DIY homeowner with a family and toys to haul, this half ton truck will fit my needs perfectly. I don’t need tow hooks, but I do need a bed for trips to supply store. This truck is perfect and I will give it to my son when he starts to drive. Lots of families that have outdoor lifestyles, use Chevy, Fords and Rams pickup trucks for same thing.
with hybrids, you'll get better fuel economy with longer stops, let the regenerative braking stop the truck (I.E.) if the light a block away is about to turn red get off the accelerator and let the regenerative braking slow the truck
really disappointed in that battery being in the cabin. Losing all that underseat storage sucks. Looking at that frame, there is room to have put it between the rails if the exhaust was re-routed a bit. Maybe that's something they'll tackle in future revisions.
Exactly... It's almost like at the last minute they decided to add an electric motor and were like "oh crap where do we add the batteries?" Then in a rush the opted to dump them in the back of the cab.
Not only is there no under seat storage, but the floor isn't flat and there's no behind the seat storage either. The worst rear cab of any pickup on the market today. It's almost as if Toyota doesn't understand how people use their trucks.
@@plmn93 I didn't notice that - the rear cab floor has a hump? That's ridiculous and that alone disqualifies the Tundra in my book. I think all other truck manufactures except Nissan realized truck people want a flat loading floor in the cab.
Think they put the batteries inside for better temps. Every Toyota hybrid has batteries inside with a vent. On our sienna it’s under the front row, on the Prius it’s under the back seats. I would have been nice if they made the seat bottoms quick detach as you can gain back a few cubic feet. I removed the back row seat bottoms on my first gen Tundra and there was a lot more usable space. Looking at the frame videos I think the only place for a PHEV lithium models batteries are under the bed.
This design is terrible. Under seat storage has always been an issue, especially with the 2018 model which I have. I had to purchase an after market storage and cut up the area underneath to install it, but it was well worth it. If only the truck designers could ever take Honda's in bed trunk and tailgate design and move it over to a truck like this, and flat bed. It would be so nice.
Why would you presume it would increase mpg for towing? Ford ecoboost has worst mpg than the 5.0 when towing. Toyota said it was the same so its a good thing when your are not towing you get better mpg than the v8
Dude 18' will be the best year made. Transmission cooler still, just a fucking tank of a truck. Good luck with turbos hahaha. People are delusional to not think they are maintaining/ fixing those turbos at 100k.
@@TontoBongRonto Turbos are not an issue with Fords, so I can't imagine them being one with Toyota. I mean sure yeah they can fail but it's just not the widespread issue some people like to claim. They are some of the least of my concerns on a modern engine.
@mystery solver What a stupid comment, there isn’t a truck made that will get “good” gas mileage when towing. And the ecoboost mpg is not worse than the v8
I know the video was edited - but I appreciate the raw impressions conveyed during the test drives - which beats the all too common infomercial approach that populates many TH-cam channels. My impression on the new Tundra, without driving it myself, it is different than it predecessor. I like the red, but I feel like the forward visibility will be like looking over the front deck of an aircraft carrier.
Buy an GMC Sierra or Chev 1500 with 3.0 Duramax for 2021 tax planning purposes. Then buy a 2022 Tundra Hybrid mid 2022 when available. That gives you the opportunity to compare F-150 PowerBoost you just sold with the 3.0 Duramax and the Tundra Hybrid. These three truck configurations provide half-ton, crew cab, short bed truck buyers looking for decent fuel economy (with and without a trailer) and towing a bumper pull travel trailer occasionally solid options. If someone is towing extensively V8 half-ton trucks configured to tow or 3/4 ton trucks would probably be a better option. It’s unfortunate that 3.0 Duramax production is currently haunted and the 2022 upgraded 3.0 Duramax towing specs and max tow option are unlikely to be found at any dealership before the end of 2021.
Thank you for a solid review. When it comes down to it, it's a Toyota. It should be a rock solid ride. Other trucks have moved to the v6 tt and they're doing just fine. I want the same Toyota reliability with improved gas mileage. My 15 has the dinky 80L tank so not only does it guzzle, I have to stop more than I'd like on long drives. Towing my ATV trailer anywhere from 4-12+hours for future hunting trips should be a much nice experience overall. Plus I live in a city so the hybrid should help with mileage because there are unfortunately plenty of times where I'll be driving slower than I want so using electric would be better.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Great reviews, It would be great to see a video of pros and cons of short or regular bed usage compared to different popular trucks, such as actual capability of payloads, tie downs, using construction/landscape materials, MPGs, turning radius, truck's handling with full loads, towing with full loads, etc..... (I have not seen anyone give detail usage review of payload capabilities). Thanks!
One difference I noticed between the F150 hybrid and the 22 Tundra Hybrid is that the battery in the Toyota takes up room under the seat. I think in the Ford, when you fold up the rear seats, you have a flat floor in back. When you fold up the seats in the Tundra hybrid, you don't have a flat floor because the battery is under the rear seats. 1) With the Tundra 22 non hybrid, can you fold up the seats and get a flat floor? 2) Do you know of any after market solutions that give you a flat platform in the Tundra Hybrid with the rear seats folded? I am interested in this because we have two big dogs and I don't want them messing up the rear seats, or the battery for that matter. Thanks for your great channel.
Up to now, I have been resisting the Tundra craze, but now I want one! I miss my '14 Tundra I had...pricing isn't available yet but I am sure it's too high, just like all the rest of them.
I know Toyota makes great cars, but you have to wonder as they continue to add more essential electronic components/turbos to their engines, drive trains, and interior will they still continue to be as reliable for hundreds of thousands of miles?
Probably more reliable than Big 3 but not as nearly reliable as they used to be. They only care about first owners and based on the latest trends people love setting their money on fire by changing cars/trucks every 3-4 years
Two questions: 1) Your bottom line opinion of the 2022 Tundra vs. your previous f150 for work and play? 2) are the high top corners of the info screen as annoying in person as they appear to be when watching a video from a driver's perspective? Thanks and good work.
Tundra is more fun to drive than F-150. F-150 has more features I used all the time like zone lighting and onboard power. The info screen isn't that distracting and with the Toyota voice commands, you can really just ignore the screen.
Thank you for sharing, I think it's going to be a great truck all in all but I'm not sure it met the world beater hype the tried to sell. I will be looking at the similar package you are talking about with the limited trd when it becomes available. Again thanks. Be safe and be blessed!
With all due respect, the "piped in noise" has got to be the stupidest thing ever added to any vehicle. They gave it a tame motor to make it fuel efficient, so it's naturally quieter, they improved the interior with sound deadening materials and then! Made the speakers play fake engine sounds! I'm done, guess I'm an old geezer now at 46, can't see ever buying a vehicle newer than 2015 or so. I don't want things beeping at me, slamming on my brakes, controlling the steering or stopping for people trying to car jack me. Rant over.
Wait till you hear this in person. Some of the videos you can hear it. This thing sounds like a crypto mining rig outside by the grill. Whinny as fuck with the hybrid motor. This thing is a joke.
@@TontoBongRonto I think I've heard what you're referring to, it sounds so unique and bizarre I wasn't sure what it was. TFL has a 0-60 test with a hybrid, when he's coming to a stop it sounds like brake pads are down to rivets. Wtf is that? Think I'll be keeping my "unrefined" 2010 Tundra.
Thanks Nice review, not ready to trade my 2020 TRD Sport... so far of that 1 000 000 km . Hope this one will be close as reliable as the previous generation
The electric motor is sandwiched in between the engine and transmission yo. They accounted for the lag so there wouldn't be lag with help from the electric motor.
@@tachee77910 Bet I've owned and driven more V8's then you. Learn to read buddy, I said the V8 has instant power/torque while the turbo's take time to build boost. And I've owned a lot more turbo's then you too. Calm down and read first.
Hey Tim, is there a truck available today that stands out to you as a driver, as feeling the most substantial/special? In a way that separates it from others in its class? From just driving, you felt you were in something very special?
Really, if they were going to combine a 10 speed trans and a 3.21 rear end, it seems like they could have offered the 5.7 as a base engine with much better economy than the previous 6speed and 4.30.
5.7 no longer meets the stricter emissions...they’d have to put both direct and Port injection on it, put on EGR and an EGR cooler, variable cylinder displacement, double cat converters (like shown on these) and that would all change it so much that it wouldn’t be the 5.7 you knew. It would be wayyy more complicated and troublesome. (And yes, this new 3.5 will have a butt load of “more complicated” - see the wires and hoses and tubes all over the top of it in that chassis shot?) Ford even had to add an EGR cooler to their non hybrid engines. If Toyota had a brain, they would have put an 8 speed tranny behind the 2014+ trucks and got those mpgs up but they chose to do nothing to it until they HAD to (EPA driven not the consumer).
The trans approach is different, the ratios are numerically higher in 10speed, that is why axle ratio is 3.31:1. This lets you tow at highway speeds in 1:1 trans gear, makes trans durable, instead of towing in OD
Toyota being cheap and politically correct. They don’t want to make new V8s because they don’t want spend on newer technology for them, TTV6 is cheaper and less effort and creativity required. Then they are marketing the TTV6, a derated but same engine for the SR and the Hybrid as 3 different engine options. This new truck is with a rear end of 3.31 and 10th gear of 0.61 at 65mph and 265/70r18 tires is only doing 1400rpms at 65mph. This engine is going to be boosting a lot pulling a heavy load. It’s going to same or even worse fuel economy than the 5.7 towing the same loads except when unloaded.
No 4wd Auto rules it out for me. I use it in my Ram all the time for slick streets, snow and ice, and gravel. Really surprised it's not in there. Turbos are really cool. Whistle of the turbos might be an even trade for the rumble of a V8? They ought to make that whistle a little louder so it sounds cooler, like the ones on turbo diesels.
Well done as always!! Did Toyota Do Their Homework? The fastest growing off road market is towing “off roadish” to heavy duty off road RV trailers 5000 to 10,000lbs for off grid boon docking. As such, the Tundra TRD Pro hybrid with rear air suspension with ability to power the RV trailer as a battery & generator is ideal. If Toyota did their homework, this combination will be offered…hopefully.
@@saisr1 We don’t know as only pre production product has been shown and final order specs for each line has not been officially released. Toyota must get 2022/23 models immediately and not take years to perfect as the competition is already years ahead of Toyota’s current 2021 lineups. Pricing/value is critical as many are ready to leave the Toyota brand so they must hit home runs in each product category and show the best value in each or hello Ford, Ram and even GM with their class leading new 3.0l diesel with all new 2022 interiors.
@@matthewrobertson156 yea, but ford is garbage. Toyota 6 month of testing is equivalent to 5 years or testing for Ford. Anyway, this powertrain is also in toyotas flagship of reliability in the new Land Cruiser. If anything goes in the Land Cruiser, you already know its solid as granite.
@@JattAnmoli Your comment is delusional. Toyota is just playing follow the leader. Not just with the twin Turbo but with the Hybrid as well. Just food for thought.
@@matthewrobertson156 that is one perspective. Another is that Toyota has been making hybrid cars (Prius?) and twin turbo v6 engines for decades. They are just slow and methodical with new models. They want to make sure quality, durability, and reliability are maintained.
Yada yada ours is better. But can it do a 5.4 second 0-60? I may trade in the Powerboost for a Tundra, but it won't be because I expect to improve the performance. I'm glad you're buying one (and not the TRD Pro) since you've been driving the PB and I'd like to get your perspective on it.
Do you get an in bed 120 power inverter? How about one or two in the cabin? No built in steps on the bumper to ease access to the bed. So many little things missing but at least they did address the underseat storage, but you turn around and loose it in the hybrid model.
Does this new engine have a standard spin on oil filter now, or does it still have the 1950's design cannister oil filter abomination toyota has been using for several yrs? Just curios.
@@mingli9563 not comparing read my words not your thoughts. I was prepared to go back to a pickup but between head space and mpg ill just keep the luxury
I wish you had reset your mpg computer on every drive you taken… give to people what they want to know !! So, was it better than your Hybrid F150?? Keep up the good work 👍
Hey I know this is a super old video but just curious how the hybrid drove vs the non-hyrbid. Is it worth it in your opinion to get the hybrid? or is the difference not that much worth it
I have a 2021 GMC Sierra Denali 3.0, 4x4 and love the engine, however diesel just took a big jump over unleaded regular fuel. Will the hybrid or non-hybrid engine require premium fuel? The new Toyota Tundra hybrid might be more economical to drive if it uses unleaded regular fuel than my truck.
Bravo Toyota! You finally have made a head jerking twin turbo, hybrid truck. If you drive that truck in the sport mode you will have a smile on your face all day long! I know you will not get those kind of numbers on your miles per gallon when you drive a truck like that! #BeautifulNewTundraTwinTurboHybrid
Not a class leader which is okay I think the tundra didn’t take any chances, it took the best from Ford and Ram and now it competes with them at no disadvantage more of a lifestyle truck suited more for family transportation than anything else.
Conservative American/Canadian: just let go of the V8 ain't that hard. In Europe we're driving 4 cilinders for decades and since 10-15 years 3 and 2 cilinders are there. Even without hybride added. Also PHEV and EV are here for 2 decades. In 2030: no diesels and petrol/gas engines are sold in Europe anymore. You guys are so, so far behind between the ears. Small engines aren't that bad, you don't need a "V8 MOWTOAR" to tow. We haul small digger with 4 cilinders since the '70s.
You're not far off the mark. You guys do things differently for sure - I remember being in London in 1998 wondering why Ottawa didn't have traffic circles (we finally started using them over the last few years). But honestly, the topography is different for the US and Canada compared to Europe. Sure, southern France and that area have big mountains, but here in Ontario, we can drive through a wide variety of topography as it takes about 26 hours to drive across this province. It's challenging all over with the various driving conditions. Hence the reason why folks are hesitant to say goodbye to the V8 system. But it's not our choice to make really because it's going bye bye. I have a 15....love it. Great truck, but I'll be getting a hybrid for sure.
Thanks for this review, you're doing a great job and I appreciate your views and work. I was interested in hearing your opinion from about the 11:50 mark on and the 24:40 mark on where you were towing up the 5% grade at 45mph followed by doing a stoplight 0-60mph. . By your facial expression, it didn't appear to me that you were blown away? Perhaps I read you wrong? I know you were aborbing and processing a lot of info at the time, to be fair... Interested in hearing first impressions of say this powertrain vs the Ecoboost... I'm curious to know if you feel comfortable being honest right now, given how closely Toyota will watch the reviews of those they gave a truck to. First impressions tend to be more accurate than comments made after you chew on things for a while. You're the second reviewer I've watched who experienced a type of turbo lag that you never had in the EB. I'm also in the market for a new truck. I could never order, let alone purchase, a vehicle without prices posted first. My Scottish grandmother would roll over in her grave if she knew I had done that.... however pricing is coming soon I hope. A local dealer told me if I leave my order another couple months the wait could be the better part of a year. Decisions decisions.... Thanks again!
I was considering the same setup (Limited TRD off road) as I feel like it’s the perfect value for the options included similar to the Lariat fx4 and the Sierra all terrain. I was wondering if anyone knows if the grey leather I keep seeing in this variation is the only option or if there is a black leather choice
@@Pickuptrucktalk …let’s be honest, everyone that wanted a Toyota pickup truck was waiting for the MPG and if 20 MPG combined is the number for the non hybrid Tundra, it will sell more than it used to. My 4runner gets 18 MPG combined and it does not have any of the capability of the new tundra. I never considered any of the other 3 for a half ton truck.
How is the throttle tip-in compared to the other half tons? I’ve test driven them all and they all seem to have lots of throttle lag. On the gas motor.
What truck is going to be the most influential to the public, Maverick or Tundra? One will be a game changer and the other voted truck of the year by the corporate dollar chasers.
They ruined the space of the double cab. Apparently, they're de-tuning the SR versions. You can't get the hybrid system unless you buy top trims. No tow hooks, no bench seat, no column shifter, no bumper step, almost certainly no way to hook up even a small plow to the ridiculously-extended front end. Likely not much of a real-world MPG improvement if you're actually working the truck. Lost of known reliability. I was hoping this would be a truck that would last me 20 years. Now, I probably have to wait 20 years with the hope that Toyota will fix what they screwed up with this redesign.
I have commented many times throughout many youtube videos where people were so hyped up about new tundra, and I said many will be disappointed. I am myself not impressed a bit.
Yes but when you wanted to judge that acceleration and lag I think sport mode would make all the difference. It seemed Like that delay was the transmission trying to figure out what gear to down shift to before it would tell the engine to go. In the f150 sport mode is like a totally different beast. So from your impressions right now what would you buy if it wasn't for the channel F150 or Tundra?
Agreed. Though I'd prefer a 7,200 watt option like the ford, at least put in a 1,500 watt like the Toyota minivan. That will do most of what I need (which is 600 - 1,200 watts). Them saying a person should drag around a generator is a cop out. I don't want to load and unload a generator and worry about security and don't always know when I'll need it. Toyota, Just add the built in inverter and give us what we want even if you don't think we need it. I'm not going to idle the truck for 8 hours and use it. That is the use case for a generator. But I want to charge electric motorcycle battery as I drive, run an electric powertool for short period of time, etc.
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I drive hybrid transit buses they are absolute monsters! ... I've been waiting for this truck for ten years
Had a 2020 sr5 just bought a 2023 limited. I tow 5 days a week various weights. I love my 23 for towing it is very responsive no turbo lag and the 10 speed transmission is wonderful. The old 6 speed would down shift often. The new truck very seldom down shifts. 2020 had 119,000 on it and no issues whatsoever only maintenance. If the 2023 has the same quality it will be an awesome truck.
Sticking with my bulletproof tried and true naturally aspirated 5.7 liter V-8 engine and Aisin 6 speed transmission.
I'm so confused... All this world beater talk does this lead in any way over the competition? They said aerodynamics and reasons for no tow hooks but it doesn't get any better MPG than the F150 what the heck is going on? Then they tell us no pro power equivalent, you don't need it 😆 Toyota come on lol
Agreed this thing is 3/4 baked....
They should have waited another year and given it some more thought. What the heck is another year when it's already been 14 yrs?!
@steve salier
I think whoever designed this vehicle was baked..
This is my first time hearing about the extending / folding mirrors. Just got a little more excited about the Tundra...Thanks!
They are sweet!
TOYOTA has made a VERY BIG MISTAKE ( and I am a 100% Toyota loyalist ! ) The 2022 Tundra has an "active air dam " underneath , up front.
At high speed, it deploys to direct air to the sides. At low speed, it folds up to restore full ground clearance. This "active air dam" PREVENTS Tundras from having FRONT TOW HOOKS which to work properly must be attached to the frame . An off-road vehicle without tow hooks ????
You will not be pulling your buddy out of a snow bank or no one is going to be pulling you out of a mud bog . Tow Hooks are essential for every off-roader .
Huge Oversight by Toyota !
Toyota is offering tow hooks as an Accessory for all the new Tundra. Agree they should be standard, but just buy them and install them. Much like not having ones preferred tire brand or size, not a deal breaker.
@@MrChadx1 The article I read had a Toyota engineer saying the active air dam makes tow hooks impossible . I wonder if he is wrong or if the active air dam has to be tossed or bumper must be cut to add those tow hooks listed as accessories ?
Don’t kid yourself. They are not putting tow hooks as a standard feature because chances are pretty slim that you will ever need recovery hooks at the grocery store or a church parking lot where 99% of those trucks will be used 🙄. For the 1% of those who use trucks for truck thing I’m sure they’ll have optional hooks available
@@michalp2362 ….As a DIY homeowner with a family and toys to haul, this half ton truck will fit my needs perfectly. I don’t need tow hooks, but I do need a bed for trips to supply store. This truck is perfect and I will give it to my son when he starts to drive.
Lots of families that have outdoor lifestyles, use Chevy, Fords and Rams pickup trucks for same thing.
with hybrids, you'll get better fuel economy with longer stops, let the regenerative braking stop the truck (I.E.) if the light a block away is about to turn red get off the accelerator and let the regenerative braking slow the truck
really disappointed in that battery being in the cabin. Losing all that underseat storage sucks. Looking at that frame, there is room to have put it between the rails if the exhaust was re-routed a bit. Maybe that's something they'll tackle in future revisions.
Exactly... It's almost like at the last minute they decided to add an electric motor and were like "oh crap where do we add the batteries?" Then in a rush the opted to dump them in the back of the cab.
Not only is there no under seat storage, but the floor isn't flat and there's no behind the seat storage either. The worst rear cab of any pickup on the market today. It's almost as if Toyota doesn't understand how people use their trucks.
@@plmn93 I didn't notice that - the rear cab floor has a hump? That's ridiculous and that alone disqualifies the Tundra in my book. I think all other truck manufactures except Nissan realized truck people want a flat loading floor in the cab.
Think they put the batteries inside for better temps. Every Toyota hybrid has batteries inside with a vent. On our sienna it’s under the front row, on the Prius it’s under the back seats. I would have been nice if they made the seat bottoms quick detach as you can gain back a few cubic feet. I removed the back row seat bottoms on my first gen Tundra and there was a lot more usable space.
Looking at the frame videos I think the only place for a PHEV lithium models batteries are under the bed.
This design is terrible. Under seat storage has always been an issue, especially with the 2018 model which I have. I had to purchase an after market storage and cut up the area underneath to install it, but it was well worth it. If only the truck designers could ever take Honda's in bed trunk and tailgate design and move it over to a truck like this, and flat bed. It would be so nice.
Was thinking there’d be towing MPG increase. Guess not. This makes it way easier to keep my ‘18!
Why would you presume it would increase mpg for towing? Ford ecoboost has worst mpg than the 5.0 when towing. Toyota said it was the same so its a good thing when your are not towing you get better mpg than the v8
Dude 18' will be the best year made. Transmission cooler still, just a fucking tank of a truck. Good luck with turbos hahaha. People are delusional to not think they are maintaining/ fixing those turbos at 100k.
@@TontoBongRonto Turbos are not an issue with Fords, so I can't imagine them being one with Toyota. I mean sure yeah they can fail but it's just not the widespread issue some people like to claim. They are some of the least of my concerns on a modern engine.
@@TontoBongRonto Toyota engineers literally go over the specs and lifespan of this engine.
@mystery solver
What a stupid comment, there isn’t a truck made that will get “good” gas mileage when towing. And the ecoboost mpg is not worse than the v8
I know the video was edited - but I appreciate the raw impressions conveyed during the test drives - which beats the all too common infomercial approach that populates many TH-cam channels.
My impression on the new Tundra, without driving it myself, it is different than it predecessor. I like the red, but I feel like the forward visibility will be like looking over the front deck of an aircraft carrier.
IMO visibility is similar as most trucks in this category.
They should have have the same as Ford F-150,on board generator
Tim, Let's see if the launch of this new Tundra is smoother than some others we have seen lately.
Yeah, IF they can build it is a common question these days.
Buy an GMC Sierra or Chev 1500 with 3.0 Duramax for 2021 tax planning purposes. Then buy a 2022 Tundra Hybrid mid 2022 when available. That gives you the opportunity to compare F-150 PowerBoost you just sold with the 3.0 Duramax and the Tundra Hybrid. These three truck configurations provide half-ton, crew cab, short bed truck buyers looking for decent fuel economy (with and without a trailer) and towing a bumper pull travel trailer occasionally solid options. If someone is towing extensively V8 half-ton trucks configured to tow or 3/4 ton trucks would probably be a better option. It’s unfortunate that 3.0 Duramax production is currently haunted and the 2022 upgraded 3.0 Duramax towing specs and max tow option are unlikely to be found at any dealership before the end of 2021.
Dang that turn signal extra loud, tic toc tic toc .. that'll make up for the smaller gear ratio..
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Thank you for a solid review. When it comes down to it, it's a Toyota. It should be a rock solid ride. Other trucks have moved to the v6 tt and they're doing just fine. I want the same Toyota reliability with improved gas mileage. My 15 has the dinky 80L tank so not only does it guzzle, I have to stop more than I'd like on long drives. Towing my ATV trailer anywhere from 4-12+hours for future hunting trips should be a much nice experience overall. Plus I live in a city so the hybrid should help with mileage because there are unfortunately plenty of times where I'll be driving slower than I want so using electric would be better.
Tim, please continue to post payloads for these trucks as you see them. I doubt we get to see these on dealer lots for quite sometime. Thanks!
Will do. I try to remember to do so each time.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Great reviews, It would be great to see a video of pros and cons of short or regular bed usage compared to different popular trucks, such as actual capability of payloads, tie downs, using construction/landscape materials, MPGs, turning radius, truck's handling with full loads, towing with full loads, etc..... (I have not seen anyone give detail usage review of payload capabilities). Thanks!
This hybrid system is the same design as the one Toyota has been using in the Hino trucks and buses since the 90's. So it's tried and proven.
@@justicefreedom4531 Yes, Hino is a subsidiary of Toyota. They manufactured buses and medium and heavy trucks.
And fj cruiser
One difference I noticed between the F150 hybrid and the 22 Tundra Hybrid is that the battery in the Toyota takes up room under the seat. I think in the Ford, when you fold up the rear seats, you have a flat floor in back. When you fold up the seats in the Tundra hybrid, you don't have a flat floor because the battery is under the rear seats. 1) With the Tundra 22 non hybrid, can you fold up the seats and get a flat floor? 2) Do you know of any after market solutions that give you a flat platform in the Tundra Hybrid with the rear seats folded? I am interested in this because we have two big dogs and I don't want them messing up the rear seats, or the battery for that matter. Thanks for your great channel.
1. Nope. 2. Nope. Hope that helps somehow. Sorry, the Tundra is too new to find aftermarket solutions at the moment.
11:04 - What are they trying to hide?
Where is their World Beater truck?
Class leading/game changer? What is class leading? I was hoping for a suprise other than a bigger optional screen. Seems to be a nice truck though.
Up to now, I have been resisting the Tundra craze, but now I want one! I miss my '14 Tundra I had...pricing isn't available yet but I am sure it's too high, just like all the rest of them.
I know Toyota makes great cars, but you have to wonder as they continue to add more essential electronic components/turbos to their engines, drive trains, and interior will they still continue to be as reliable for hundreds of thousands of miles?
Probably more reliable than Big 3 but not as nearly reliable as they used to be. They only care about first owners and based on the latest trends people love setting their money on fire by changing cars/trucks every 3-4 years
@micheal p
Or it could turn out to be a complete shit box.
“Perceived reliability “ 🤣
Two questions: 1) Your bottom line opinion of the 2022 Tundra vs. your previous f150 for work and play? 2) are the high top corners of the info screen as annoying in person as they appear to be when watching a video from a driver's perspective? Thanks and good work.
Tundra is more fun to drive than F-150. F-150 has more features I used all the time like zone lighting and onboard power.
The info screen isn't that distracting and with the Toyota voice commands, you can really just ignore the screen.
Thank you for sharing, I think it's going to be a great truck all in all but I'm not sure it met the world beater hype the tried to sell. I will be looking at the similar package you are talking about with the limited trd when it becomes available. Again thanks. Be safe and be blessed!
With all due respect, the "piped in noise" has got to be the stupidest thing ever added to any vehicle. They gave it a tame motor to make it fuel efficient, so it's naturally quieter, they improved the interior with sound deadening materials and then! Made the speakers play fake engine sounds! I'm done, guess I'm an old geezer now at 46, can't see ever buying a vehicle newer than 2015 or so. I don't want things beeping at me, slamming on my brakes, controlling the steering or stopping for people trying to car jack me. Rant over.
Wait till you hear this in person. Some of the videos you can hear it. This thing sounds like a crypto mining rig outside by the grill. Whinny as fuck with the hybrid motor. This thing is a joke.
@@TontoBongRonto I think I've heard what you're referring to, it sounds so unique and bizarre I wasn't sure what it was. TFL has a 0-60 test with a hybrid, when he's coming to a stop it sounds like brake pads are down to rivets. Wtf is that? Think I'll be keeping my "unrefined" 2010 Tundra.
@@ultraneight I have an 18' cav blue DC off road. It's a dream
Never thought about the car jacking accessory, specially now..
It only comes with the JBL sound system upgrade, so it can be avoided.
This thing looks damn good moving
Thanks Nice review, not ready to trade my 2020 TRD Sport... so far of that 1 000 000 km .
Hope this one will be close as reliable as the previous generation
How can the exhaust sound good when it is not the exhaust you are hearing????
Inside the cabin it has a rumble.
Such a nice driving truck
What are the engine RPM at 60 MPH
It will never have instant power and torque of a V8. There will be a lot of lag due to the turbo's but when they kick in, it's a lot of fun.
Turbo's engine generates more torque not sure what you are talking about.
@@tachee77910 I’m confused as well
@@rachaad i m sure that dude never drove a tundra v8 and opem his mouth about torque and power.
The electric motor is sandwiched in between the engine and transmission yo. They accounted for the lag so there wouldn't be lag with help from the electric motor.
@@tachee77910 Bet I've owned and driven more V8's then you. Learn to read buddy, I said the V8 has instant power/torque while the turbo's take time to build boost. And I've owned a lot more turbo's then you too. Calm down and read first.
Hey Tim, is there a truck available today that stands out to you as a driver, as feeling the most substantial/special? In a way that separates it from others in its class? From just driving, you felt you were in something very special?
disappointed for not having the option of a natural aspirated V8 !! :(
Really, if they were going to combine a 10 speed trans and a 3.21 rear end, it seems like they could have offered the 5.7 as a base engine with much better economy than the previous 6speed and 4.30.
5.7 no longer meets the stricter emissions...they’d have to put both direct and Port injection on it, put on EGR and an EGR cooler, variable cylinder displacement, double cat converters (like shown on these) and that would all change it so much that it wouldn’t be the 5.7 you knew. It would be wayyy more complicated and troublesome. (And yes, this new 3.5 will have a butt load of “more complicated” - see the wires and hoses and tubes all over the top of it in that chassis shot?) Ford even had to add an EGR cooler to their non hybrid engines. If Toyota had a brain, they would have put an 8 speed tranny behind the 2014+ trucks and got those mpgs up but they chose to do nothing to it until they HAD to (EPA driven not the consumer).
@@natehawkins2910 great response! Thank you!
The trans approach is different, the ratios are numerically higher in 10speed, that is why axle ratio is 3.31:1. This lets you tow at highway speeds in 1:1 trans gear, makes trans durable, instead of towing in OD
Toyota being cheap and politically correct. They don’t want to make new V8s because they don’t want spend on newer technology for them, TTV6 is cheaper and less effort and creativity required. Then they are marketing the TTV6, a derated but same engine for the SR and the Hybrid as 3 different engine options.
This new truck is with a rear end of 3.31 and 10th gear of 0.61 at 65mph and 265/70r18 tires is only doing 1400rpms at 65mph. This engine is going to be boosting a lot pulling a heavy load. It’s going to same or even worse fuel economy than the 5.7 towing the same loads except when unloaded.
Yes please do give us those real world towing numbers
Mid $50k range? That’s 2021 model prices. With so much inflation I don’t think so. What does everyone else think?
More like in the 60s probably high 60s
Nah, it will hold the line at $50k.
Limited Hybrid with TRD around 60 is my guess. Way too much 😬
Hi Tim,
Great review I can’t wait to see more.
Only Toyota would make a smaller full size crew cab in an ever growing segment. Yes that turn signal is obnoxious.
4 catalytic converters? Thieves will love this truck!
😂 I had the same damn thought!
I have an 07 4 runner V8 with 4 cats. .2000 for the whole system at 200 k.
Its nothing new, my car is almost 30 years old and has 4.
No 4wd Auto rules it out for me. I use it in my Ram all the time for slick streets, snow and ice, and gravel. Really surprised it's not in there. Turbos are really cool. Whistle of the turbos might be an even trade for the rumble of a V8? They ought to make that whistle a little louder so it sounds cooler, like the ones on turbo diesels.
Well done as always!!
Did Toyota Do Their Homework?
The fastest growing off road market is towing “off roadish” to heavy duty off road RV trailers 5000 to 10,000lbs for off grid boon docking.
As such, the Tundra TRD Pro hybrid with rear air suspension with ability to power the RV trailer as a battery & generator is ideal. If Toyota did their homework, this combination will be offered…hopefully.
Guess they didn't do their homework then
@@saisr1 We don’t know as only pre production product has been shown and final order specs for each line has not been officially released.
Toyota must get 2022/23 models immediately and not take years to perfect as the competition is already years ahead of Toyota’s current 2021 lineups.
Pricing/value is critical as many are ready to leave the Toyota brand so they must hit home runs in each product category and show the best value in each or hello Ford, Ram and even GM with their class leading new 3.0l diesel with all new 2022 interiors.
As I see it the new trundra is better in every way except two areas. The looks and we don’t know the reliability.
They tested the engine for 6 years...
@@jasonthach44 And Ford tested and developed it prior to that.
@@matthewrobertson156 yea, but ford is garbage. Toyota 6 month of testing is equivalent to 5 years or testing for Ford. Anyway, this powertrain is also in toyotas flagship of reliability in the new Land Cruiser. If anything goes in the Land Cruiser, you already know its solid as granite.
@@JattAnmoli Your comment is delusional. Toyota is just playing follow the leader. Not just with the twin Turbo but with the Hybrid as well. Just food for thought.
@@matthewrobertson156 that is one perspective. Another is that Toyota has been making hybrid cars (Prius?) and twin turbo v6 engines for decades. They are just slow and methodical with new models. They want to make sure quality, durability, and reliability are maintained.
Put It in Sport Mode
I think it is a lag kinda like the old 4 barrel kickin' in lag ???
A black headliner it's all i wanted to see👍
Yada yada ours is better. But can it do a 5.4 second 0-60? I may trade in the Powerboost for a Tundra, but it won't be because I expect to improve the performance. I'm glad you're buying one (and not the TRD Pro) since you've been driving the PB and I'd like to get your perspective on it.
Have you been happy with the Powerboost? I'm in the market and would appreciate your feedback.....
@@cwqrpportable it's probably a bad idea for a guy like me to whom being pushed back in the seat produces a dopamine hit, but yeah, I like it.
Thanks for the video and he speculation and gas mileage yet? My wife has a Toyota Sienna and we get about 37 and 38 miles per gallon it’s awesome
Do you get an in bed 120 power inverter? How about one or two in the cabin? No built in steps on the bumper to ease access to the bed. So many little things missing but at least they did address the underseat storage, but you turn around and loose it in the hybrid model.
In bed plug is 120 volts with 400 watts.
Does this new engine have a standard spin on oil filter now, or does it still have the 1950's design cannister oil filter abomination toyota has been using for several yrs? Just curios.
Huh. Solid question.
with a 3.31 rear the mileage should be way better.. if your guess is correct. I will keep my rx 350. that mpg is aweful
RX350 is not a truck. Why are you comparing it with Tundra. I'm 2021 rx owner too
@@mingli9563 not comparing read my words not your thoughts. I was prepared to go back to a pickup but between head space and mpg ill just keep the luxury
Only need one rear end gear with an electric motor assist.
Do the new tundra have a Ford 3.5. Turbo in it
Similar for sure.
Does it have Stop/Start??
The tundra looks like if the new Silverado and the previous generation F-150 had a night out.
@dude
I agree, The Toyota does look like an abortion
Is there a date on when Toyota will reveal the prices to the Tundra and the hybrid mpg?
Nope.
I wish you had reset your mpg computer on every drive you taken… give to people what they want to know !!
So, was it better than your Hybrid F150??
Keep up the good work 👍
I just don’t trust computers on these drive programs.
Very well done video!!! Very well done!
No way the V8 6 speed wouldn’t have had to downshift going up that kind of grade towing at 45mph.
Hey I know this is a super old video but just curious how the hybrid drove vs the non-hyrbid. Is it worth it in your opinion to get the hybrid? or is the difference not that much worth it
See you Toyota in seven years when you do the mild-refresh!
Thank you for sharing
I have a 2021 GMC Sierra Denali 3.0, 4x4 and love the engine, however diesel just took a big jump over unleaded regular fuel. Will the hybrid or non-hybrid engine require premium fuel? The new Toyota Tundra hybrid might be more economical to drive if it uses unleaded regular fuel than my truck.
87 octane for Tundra.
Did you get the opportunity to use the trailer backup system? Would have been interesting to see. Probably not part of the program today?
Nope. The towing demo was lame. Need some more testing time.
Will all the grilles be interchangable? Will a TRD Pro grille fit on a Limited trim, including the a connection for the center grille light bar?
Seems like it.
Tim I thought crawl control works on up hill and down hill. Is hill decent used for more severe grades?
Crawl control is only in 4 low.
Bravo Toyota! You finally have made a head jerking twin turbo, hybrid truck. If you drive that truck in the sport mode you will have a smile on your face all day long! I know you will not get those kind of numbers on your miles per gallon when you drive a truck like that! #BeautifulNewTundraTwinTurboHybrid
It drives like a v8 but how long will the turbos last. Also will it require 91 octane to get the better performance
Multiple outlets reporting rating are on regular gas.
Yup, just 87 octane.
I’m really digging this trim. 😍💪🏼💯
I'm amazed at how they basically copied Ford, including piping in the sound!!
@bigjohndiesel
That’s what Toyota is know for, copying other manufacturers ideas. This truck is just another one of many
What model or package is the best in your opinion for towing?
All of them with max tow. Sorry for the non answer, but not enough packages/trims to make one better than another for towing.
Does the limited off road. Have different grill then the regular limited. …..?
Nope.
How many people have time or availability. What is the window sticker on the limited
Not a class leader which is okay I think the tundra didn’t take any chances, it took the best from Ford and Ram and now it competes with them at no disadvantage more of a lifestyle truck suited more for family transportation than anything else.
Did you happen to find out what the payload rating of that Limited is?
Varies. Sadly.
Conservative American/Canadian: just let go of the V8 ain't that hard. In Europe we're driving 4 cilinders for decades and since 10-15 years 3 and 2 cilinders are there. Even without hybride added.
Also PHEV and EV are here for 2 decades. In 2030: no diesels and petrol/gas engines are sold in Europe anymore.
You guys are so, so far behind between the ears. Small engines aren't that bad, you don't need a "V8 MOWTOAR" to tow. We haul small digger with 4 cilinders since the '70s.
How about we keep the V8, and folks that agree with you can move to France.
@@kirbyspencer538 say goodbye to V8s in the USA. They won’t last much longer, at least not in half tons
You're not far off the mark. You guys do things differently for sure - I remember being in London in 1998 wondering why Ottawa didn't have traffic circles (we finally started using them over the last few years). But honestly, the topography is different for the US and Canada compared to Europe. Sure, southern France and that area have big mountains, but here in Ontario, we can drive through a wide variety of topography as it takes about 26 hours to drive across this province. It's challenging all over with the various driving conditions. Hence the reason why folks are hesitant to say goodbye to the V8 system. But it's not our choice to make really because it's going bye bye. I have a 15....love it. Great truck, but I'll be getting a hybrid for sure.
That beeping needs to go away, and I'll all do all the driving, it needs to respond to MY inputs...
Thanks for this review, you're doing a great job and I appreciate your views and work. I was interested in hearing your opinion from about the 11:50 mark on and the 24:40 mark on where you were towing up the 5% grade at 45mph followed by doing a stoplight 0-60mph. . By your facial expression, it didn't appear to me that you were blown away? Perhaps I read you wrong? I know you were aborbing and processing a lot of info at the time, to be fair... Interested in hearing first impressions of say this powertrain vs the Ecoboost... I'm curious to know if you feel comfortable being honest right now, given how closely Toyota will watch the reviews of those they gave a truck to. First impressions tend to be more accurate than comments made after you chew on things for a while. You're the second reviewer I've watched who experienced a type of turbo lag that you never had in the EB. I'm also in the market for a new truck. I could never order, let alone purchase, a vehicle without prices posted first. My Scottish grandmother would roll over in her grave if she knew I had done that.... however pricing is coming soon I hope. A local dealer told me if I leave my order another couple months the wait could be the better part of a year. Decisions decisions.... Thanks again!
Any towing and pay load capability in the TRD PRO I force max hybrid engine ?
No details yet.
I was considering the same setup (Limited TRD off road) as I feel like it’s the perfect value for the options included similar to the Lariat fx4 and the Sierra all terrain. I was wondering if anyone knows if the grey leather I keep seeing in this variation is the only option or if there is a black leather choice
Gray and black interior are the two choices I’ve heard.
They sure screwed up the styling of the truck. That grill looks like something off a Lexus.
There's not a single cab version yet?
No longer
@@rachaad damn!
What was the size of the Airstream?
Do both Dash Gauge Clusters have a Transmission Fluid temperature gauge?
Didn’t think to check, sorry.
You gave up the f150 hybrid for this? Really?
In truth, I was done with the Powerboost from a journalist point of view.
@@Pickuptrucktalk …let’s be honest, everyone that wanted a Toyota pickup truck was waiting for the MPG and if 20 MPG combined is the number for the non hybrid Tundra, it will sell more than it used to.
My 4runner gets 18 MPG combined and it does not have any of the capability of the new tundra. I never considered any of the other 3 for a half ton truck.
How is the throttle tip-in compared to the other half tons? I’ve test driven them all and they all seem to have lots of throttle lag. On the gas motor.
I thought this gas version was just fine and I didn't really notice much turbo lag at all on normal mode. The hybrid is even faster.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Awesome! Thanks.
Such BS for any car to need motor noise piped in. This truck reveal has been disappointing.
What truck is going to be the most influential to the public, Maverick or Tundra? One will be a game changer and the other voted truck of the year by the corporate dollar chasers.
I think Maverick is more influential at this point since it is reaching a whole new group of truck buyers.
How much (estimate) will the TRD Pro model cost? thx
My estimate is mid $60k-$70k.
Anything on pricing?
Nope.
Was the hybrid you drove an SR5?
Limited iirc.
No hybrid available on SR5
They ruined the space of the double cab. Apparently, they're de-tuning the SR versions. You can't get the hybrid system unless you buy top trims. No tow hooks, no bench seat, no column shifter, no bumper step, almost certainly no way to hook up even a small plow to the ridiculously-extended front end. Likely not much of a real-world MPG improvement if you're actually working the truck. Lost of known reliability.
I was hoping this would be a truck that would last me 20 years. Now, I probably have to wait 20 years with the hope that Toyota will fix what they screwed up with this redesign.
I have commented many times throughout many youtube videos where people were so hyped up about new tundra, and I said many will be disappointed. I am myself not impressed a bit.
Premium fuel required or can you use regular?
You can use both. Full power requires premium.
Multiple outlets saying all rating on regular gas.
87 octane.
@@jaycooks1245 I hope that is the case. F150 Ecoboost requires premium for higher output numbers
@@Pickuptrucktalk If this is the case it will be the first twin turbo on the market that does not require premium fuel to get maximum power.
Thx for review. Alot of videos to listen to this AM. How about fuel economy? Any ideas?
17-23 mpg 20 combined on a v6 twin turbo
@@gray_ios8924 Alex on Autos says 17 city/22hwy for 19 combined for the non hybrid
@@albertatundra I believe that’s for the 4 x 4
Wow. My na 2018 6.2 Denali is getting 26 mpg on level ground at 65mph and has plenty of go as well.
I think the down hill Is for towing trailers down steep grades on highway
Not really.
Good Choice
What engine RPM at 60 MPH.?
I think it was around 1800.
MPG and price??
Mpg was posted in the video, pricing not out yet.
Who makes tranny? Im assuming aisen?
Why not drive in sport modes too?
You can for sure. I just test vehicles out in normal mode whenever possible since the majority of people drive in normal mode.
Yes but when you wanted to judge that acceleration and lag I think sport mode would make all the difference. It seemed Like that delay was the transmission trying to figure out what gear to down shift to before it would tell the engine to go. In the f150 sport mode is like a totally different beast. So from your impressions right now what would you buy if it wasn't for the channel F150 or Tundra?
400 watt is not enough power
Agreed. Though I'd prefer a 7,200 watt option like the ford, at least put in a 1,500 watt like the Toyota minivan. That will do most of what I need (which is 600 - 1,200 watts). Them saying a person should drag around a generator is a cop out. I don't want to load and unload a generator and worry about security and don't always know when I'll need it. Toyota, Just add the built in inverter and give us what we want even if you don't think we need it. I'm not going to idle the truck for 8 hours and use it. That is the use case for a generator. But I want to charge electric motorcycle battery as I drive, run an electric powertool for short period of time, etc.