Man, I'm a 3rd of the way through the video and I must say already this is THE BEST Tundra review I have seen and I've seen a lot. Very comprehensive and explaining things that I have noticed and got no explanation for in any other review such as why is the grill so far from the radiator for example and many more revealing features. Great job! I'll continue watching now :)
We need this to be sold in Australia. America gets so many fascinating cars that Australia doesn't get, and besides pick up trucks are the 2nd most popular body style here.
Some things missed on this new truck. No tow hooks , sensor on front grill is in the way , rear bumper is all wrong , no steps to get into the bed , reverse lights will get broken , plastic parts on the tailgate will break off , composite box is not strong enough for work , roof is too low , center armrest needs improvement , payload is low . I love my old Tundra and hope Toyota makes some changes to this new one next year. Excellent review as usual .
Alex seriously does the best reviews without all that cheesy bullshit I see from the other guys. Nothing but straightforward facts and comments. Great job man!
Nothing class leading here, but Toyota knows that when they release the hybrid MPG numbers, it will be the talk of the town. MPG will be the game changer, no question. -Sincerely, a hybrid 2021 Sienna and 2021 Prius Prime owner.
From what i can guess, the hybrid system wont really help much for highway rating or even combined rating. However, it would be great for city driving and stop go traffic. Toyota understands that those buying the higher-end hybrid tundras wont be properly utilizing its capabilities. Most of the time, theyll be driving around in civilisation. A lifestyle truck, basically. And these buyers will benefit from the hybrid system. But those opting for the entry level tundra - the SR5 if im not mistaken - will be the ones pushing the limits of this truck. Theyre price concious. Theyll be in the field for most of their waking hours with their trucks. They need some form of reliability. They dont need a hybrid. And in all honestly, im actly hoping that therell be a more powerful hybrid tundra for future model years. Theres still room under the cabin for more battery packs. They can easily uprate the e-motors for more power. Jacking another 50hp from the e-motor isnt really a big problem, and with proper packaging n using lithium battery, they can easily triple the capacity. Ofcourse,,, those sort of numbers will make it dangerously close to crossing into Lexus territory. I mean… having a Tundra with more power than an LC500 is abit humiliating for the luxury coupe😂😂😂
Looks good on paper. F150 Lariat with 2.7V6 Twin Turbo, FX4 and tow package all the way, I own one since 2019, very happy with it and will replace with similar if not with F250 Lariat then F150 Lightening long range.
R v Ontario I’ve got an’18 supercrew, 3.55 gear, tow pkg, 4x2, 2.7 XLT that’s gets a consistent 19.5 city 25.8 highway.happy as hell with it. Max tow is 7700 lbs
A few observations and opinions: 1) I think this is a good looking truck and they will sell as many as they can build. 2) They should have offered a V-8. 3) It's hard to believe that a vehicle this large can have limited head room. 4) The 4.2" digital dash for lower end models is way too small. That was okay 5 yrs ago. Not now. 5) No tricks for the tail gate is a mistake in my book. 6) The 14" touch screen is brilliant - looks great and doesn't stick up into your field of vision like other screens can. 7) 7.5 seconds to 60 seems slow for that much power. 8) Toyotas may be known for reliability, but I have trouble believing a vehicle this complex is going to be trouble free right out of the gate. I would not buy that 1st yr of production. 9) To get one of these, I bet you will have to pay $10,000 over sticker price. These will not be cheap.
Mark miller That’s not what y’all said 6-7 months ago when hoping that they would have a v8 option. Y’all were saying how fords v6 turbos would fail and that it’s design would put too much stress on the engine. Now being you have no choice but to accept the turbo engine, it’s all freakin roses an shit. Ford once again was ahead of the game, they have built some good engines that apparently Toyota copied from. Pathetic..
It's better than the outgoing models, but I think Toyota missed the mark on a few things. Alex didn't disclose whether he was at elevation or sea level. But if this test was done at sea level the acceleration is pretty lousy. 7.6 seconds is at least a second behind the direct competition. That's even slower than the outgoing V8. Wi th h this returning 17.5 mpg I can only wonder what the 5.7 could have been hooked to the ten speed? It's better but if it were my money I would take the F150 or Ram.
@@rxonmymind8362 Also 6'2" is just barely above the 94th percentile. 6'4" is basically the 99th meaning 99 percent of Americans would fit in that truck.
Only reason to use factory navigation is when there is no cell reception. Or else just use android auto/apple car play. Toyota charging for a subscription to use their connected navigation seems pointless.
Premium fuel required for max output(too bad on the detuned base versions). No 4WD Auto(all Big 3 makers offer it). Slow for all of the power that it has. For the size, the interior is somewhat inefficient in dimensions and comfort. Noisier interior than the Ram, which is slated to become even quieter soon. Poor(ish) MPG with the V6, though better than the 5.7(one can only imagine that engine with this trans though). Then there is the matter of unknown reliability, a huge concern since the previous vehicle was one of the most reliable vehicles on the planet. I just think Toyota had ample time to knock it out of the park and they didn't quite do that.
Auto 4x4 was probably omitted for fuel efficiency reasons. I'd need to look into how the system works, but I bet they are cutting off the whole front drivetrain to save a fraction of a MPG. I'm sure they also limited engine performance to reduce emissions on wide open throttle. It'll make 389hp, but might take a while to ramp up.
"While Americans can’t seem to get enough of the mid-size pickups from Japanese automakers, they absolutely shun their full-size trucks. According to data from WardsIntelligence, the highest market share Toyota has seen with Tundra was 9.1% and that was in 2007. It currently hovers in the 5% range. It’s even worse for Nissan. The best the Titan was able to muster was 3.5% of the market in 2005. Today it’s at 1.5%. With the Detroit Three commanding 94% of full-size pickup sales this year, it might almost make more sense for Toyota and Nissan to share a large truck platform." Autoline
Alex, I am concerned the cabin is smaller (with less leg and headroom) like other TNGA Toyotas. Will the 8 foot bed on SR work trucks be 'TNGAed' down to 7'6"?
From other videos, it looks like the double cab back seat has less legroom. A longer truck, but less room in the cab compared to prior generation. Maybe when the official numbers come out this won't be true....but very disappointing if true.
Bradley Less room In The back and you get to smell the air that circulates around the batteries that you are sitting on top of. “Oh what a feeling, Toyota “
Shame there's no V8. But that's not Toyota's fault. Trust me, Toyota would rather huck another 5.7 in there and be done with than have to design and manufacturer (and warranty) a new complicated TT engine. Too many external pressures are forcing all automakers into this trap. Such a shame.
I have the 5.7 in my 2013 Land Cruiser. While I like the engine, the fuel economy is horrible: 12.5 in the city. A more fuel efficient drivetrain is long overdue from Toyota.
@@M1911jln I hear you on that, but in practice, these TT V6's aren't all that much better than V8's in the real world. People tend to be in boost all the time and your MPG plummets at that point. I know 2.7 Ecoboost owners that can't get over 14mpg. Physics is physics, you need to use energy to move these heavy trucks, and the 200 series Land Cruiser is a very big boy. Let's hope this TTV6 can improve on this however. Because even if it does a lot, the V8 just has this smooth way of operation that V6's just can't give you. I'll wait to pass judgement on that until I can drive one.
No, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't. They use V-8s in so few models, and those slow sellers, that the unit cost of each engine must be high. They didn't develop this 3.5t from scratch for the Tundra. They already make similar V-6s for a fair number of models that sell in volume. This particular one may be tuned for truck use, but it's not a new engine.
@@markmiller3279 I think you missed my point. It's not so much the number of cylinders - it's the forced induction. Designing and manufacturing a turbo engine is very much more expensive than a naturally aspirated motor. Not to mention the hybrid+turbo version. Have you seen the mechanicals on these new Tundras? It's absolutely more complicated and expensive to build. Which means for us, more expensive to buy and maintain. Reliable, sure. But it will cost you more when these things eventually start to need attention. The intercooler system alone is quite complex. I stand by my original assertion that Toyota doesn't want to be building these because it's more complicated and expensive than an NA V8.
Really do like all but the bold grill...maybe a 2023. And they play the SOUND of a bigger engine in the speakers??? Thought it was a cheat when Ford did it. Come on. Toyota. Do enjoy your reviews, though! Great job as always!
I am excited to test the new Tundra, but I must admit that there are some disappointments, especially after such a long wait. Based on what I've seen so far, the SR5 TRD would be my choice, but the 2022 GMC Sierra deserves a look too.
I’d really like to know if you can still get the bench seat and column shifter on the SR and SR5. It probably will keep it from getting the higher end options but I don’t care. Just as long as I have some kind of screen with Apple Car Play/Android Auto.
"...Chevrolet Silverado1500 Hybrid is the only hybrid in the full-size truck segment. Compared with comparable, non-hybrid models, it delivers 33-percent greater city fuel economy and a 23.5-percent improvement in overall fuel economy, all with the capability customers want in full-size truck - including a 6,100-pound (2,767 kg) trailering capacity. Estimated fuel economy for both 2WD and 4WD models is 20 mpg in the city and 23 on the highway...." GM Media with a larger 300-volt battery and 6.0l V8 circa 2012!
No more extending thigh cushion option on the driver’s seat? Say it isn’t so. Joining the Avalon in the growing group of Toyota products that formerly offered a very useful feature for taller folks :(
@@Ecuador006 I’m 6’1” but have longer legs and have noticed over a long trip that lack of thigh support can cause fatigue, numbness, or even pain depending on the length of the seat bottom cushion. Typically, the shorter the bottom cushion, the worse it gets. Previous-gen upper trim Tundras and Avalons were among the most comfortable seats for me in the non luxury class of cars. Perhaps the best was the 7th gen Nissan Maxima.
@@justinfontaine5539 I don't really think that I will miss the V8 other than the sound, lol. I do understand people's reliability concerns regarding a V8 vs a boosted V6; those turbos are just more things that can go bad.
I guess it's because the previous generation SR5 models (up till 2019) had either the 4.0 v6 (from the 4runner with about 278HP) or the 4.6 V8 with 301HP as engine options. Toyota probably didn't want to use those engines anymore, so they did what they felt was the next best thing: reduce the power of the TT V6, but not by a huge margin over the more powerful version of the engine. Or they're going Ford's route, ford has a 2.7 TT V6 and two versions of the 3.5 TT v6. Toyota probably didn't want to make two different TT V6 engines. At least it's not a turbocharged 4 cylinder (👀GM).
@@damilolaakanni so I have a 2018 SR with the 4.6 v8. I assume the 2022+ must be cheaper, but its also possible it could get slightly better MPG. I suppose this also means no SR Hybrid.
Yup Toyota screwed up big time again, they say it can tow 12,000 lbs and yet thei model has a payload pkg of 1400 lbs. So when towing 12k trailer you have to have 10% on the receiver which is 1200 lbs. So an avg guy weighs 200 lbs you are maxed out on payload. So send the obese wife, dog, cooler, an spawn in another vehicle cause this vehicle won’t handle it. Even an 8000 lb trailer would prob blow the payload if you have passengers in it. It’s just another disappointment
Alex whatever mount you are using for the outside camera shakes way too much. It's very annoying. I noticed it in another video from today (10-12-21). Gives you vertigo if you focus on it too long.
The rear camera was attached to the bed of an empty pickup truck--obviously, it's going to vibrate. [It bothered me a bit, too, but I just looked elsewhere on the video]
@Henderson Guy Ford has proved that with proper maintenance this works just fine, these twin turbo V6's do a decent job of mimicking diesels, which are better for towing than NA V8 gas engines. Only reason the 5.7 would be interesting was because it was DOHC and not a pushrod, so they could have done some fun stuff if they kept it.
Redline got 6.8 sec 0-60. Also San Antonio's elevation is 650ft. If you look at some of the foreign LC300 vs LC200 5.7 V8 drag race video, it seems that at least for the 0-60 or quarter mile there isn't a lot of difference between the V8 and the V6 it is afterwards that the V6 starts pulling away.
“Toyota’s first North American turbo truck in 30 years” I know, im being nitpicky. Coz gotta remmbr the global market Hilux pickup truck has been running turbodiesels since the mid80s and has continuously offered turbodiesels since the mid90s. The current gen Hilux is a proper work unit: option for a 2.8 turbodiesel with 200hp/500Nm(368lbft) and 6speed auto. Haul/tow rating is 1000kg(2200lb) and 3500kg(7800lb) respectively. From what u guys would call a “small” pickup truck😂
I had a 1985 Toyota pickup with the 22 re...I guess lol. I don't remember the turbo . My 1985 was a fully loaded 4x4 with a 5 speed manual. I could almost outrun it on foot but I loved the truck. I took it on some mild off road in Colorado . It was fun !
My V8 5.3 Trailboss gets 19 over all. 17.5 mpg with a V6 and growl track for speakers on acceleration does not get me excited. Reliability is still all Toyota has to offer. I do like that the new Tacoma is coming soon.
I only own Toyota cars (Siena and Corolla) and I badly need to replace the Corolla with a truck. I waited 3 years for this new model, hoping there will be a big jump in fuel economy. I was hoping this new model would be around 28 mpg for the regular non hybrid, we'll see what the hybrid will offer, but can't see it go above 28 mpg. With the fuel economy advantage gone, other than reliability I don't see any selling point for this Tundra. Ford's reliability seems to be ok nowadays, so to tell you the truth I don't see the advantage with the Tundra.
There is no way on earth a non-hybrid truck of this size, shape, and weight could get 28 mpg. It's just not possible. The disappointing part is that the hybrid doesn't get better gas mileage.
@@markmiller3279 the RAM 1500 diesel does, but yes it would be hard for a gas truck to get there,but with a lot of weight loss and great5 aerodynamics it should be achievable when not pulling or carrying a load
Alex, good one on the 'karate chop' tailgate detail. Looks good, I think. ?: Are there many Toyota pickups driving around Texas compared to domestic pickups?
The performance is very disappointing tbh. The 2.7 ecoboost f150 is faster with less power and torque. Even the old v8 tundra with 4 less gears is faster…
@@Couchlover47 It has to compete with other trucks in its class. The F150 hybrid does 0-60 in 5.3 seconds. It may not matter to you, but to a subset of people that matters greatly. On the other hand, Toyota could have tuned it conservatively for reliability and low stress over outright speed.
@@johnjames7712 the only people that care are ford, Chevy & ram people. Toyota people will return with money in hand. People are paying absurd amounts of money for used tundras and Tacoma's. I've owned Tacomas and tundras and absolutely do not care if the others are faster or can tow 2-3k lbs more.
@@henrybrar I buy use Toyotas and drive them to 250k+ miles with no problem. I enjoy hearing others start with " all I've had to" then list what they've replaced to get to 200k miles.
They've been gradually purging the V-8 from their lineup (see Lexus LS for example). I'm sure they want to shut down the production line dedicated to making such a little-used engine. The unit costs for making each engine must be high.
It seems unnecessarily long if all they're offering is a V-6. They had the perfect opportunity to make a lighter, more compact big truck and threw it away.
I don’t like the front end and I drive a Toyota. The double cab rear seat is now almost unusable. The fanboys will buy some, but the big three have nothing to worry about. Toyota will have a lock on the #4 slot.
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Man, I'm a 3rd of the way through the video and I must say already this is THE BEST Tundra review I have seen and I've seen a lot. Very comprehensive and explaining things that I have noticed and got no explanation for in any other review such as why is the grill so far from the radiator for example and many more revealing features. Great job!
I'll continue watching now :)
Where have you been? Alex gets right to the point. And he bounces around on his toes and heels a lot
Alex does THE BEST reviews. Period.
We need this to be sold in Australia. America gets so many fascinating cars that Australia doesn't get, and besides pick up trucks are the 2nd most popular body style here.
In the USA we want the LC70 series and the 300 series! I would also love some of the smaller diesel pick ups like the Hilux and Isuzu offerings
I love the Aussie cars!
I’d love to swap some American cars with the Aussies.
We in America say the same about Australian cars
As an australian you should worry about things like getting beaten by the police if you leave the house lol
Best review that I've seen so far.
Late 80s there was a Turbo EFI 22R 4cyl Pickup. So this is not the first turbo truck Toyota has made for the US market.
First turbo tundra
It was a good truck too.
BMW’s dream is to fit two of those front grills in the next M3.
😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂
Some things missed on this new truck. No tow hooks , sensor on front grill is in the way , rear bumper is all wrong , no steps to get into the bed , reverse lights will get broken , plastic parts on the tailgate will break off , composite box is not strong enough for work , roof is too low , center armrest needs improvement , payload is low . I love my old Tundra and hope Toyota makes some changes to this new one next year. Excellent review as usual .
Alex seriously does the best reviews without all that cheesy bullshit I see from the other guys. Nothing but straightforward facts and comments. Great job man!
Nothing class leading here, but Toyota knows that when they release the hybrid MPG numbers, it will be the talk of the town. MPG will be the game changer, no question. -Sincerely, a hybrid 2021 Sienna and 2021 Prius Prime owner.
It will probably be the same as the F150 Hybrid around 24 MPG combined.
From what i can guess, the hybrid system wont really help much for highway rating or even combined rating. However, it would be great for city driving and stop go traffic.
Toyota understands that those buying the higher-end hybrid tundras wont be properly utilizing its capabilities. Most of the time, theyll be driving around in civilisation. A lifestyle truck, basically. And these buyers will benefit from the hybrid system.
But those opting for the entry level tundra - the SR5 if im not mistaken - will be the ones pushing the limits of this truck. Theyre price concious. Theyll be in the field for most of their waking hours with their trucks. They need some form of reliability. They dont need a hybrid.
And in all honestly, im actly hoping that therell be a more powerful hybrid tundra for future model years. Theres still room under the cabin for more battery packs. They can easily uprate the e-motors for more power. Jacking another 50hp from the e-motor isnt really a big problem, and with proper packaging n using lithium battery, they can easily triple the capacity. Ofcourse,,, those sort of numbers will make it dangerously close to crossing into Lexus territory. I mean… having a Tundra with more power than an LC500 is abit humiliating for the luxury coupe😂😂😂
No stake holes in the bed rails. Should be interesting to see what the aftermarket comes up with regarding covers.
Is this a prototype and they left off the front bumper? Where's the front bumper? Where the heck are the tow hooks?
a monthly fee for onboard navigation? F that.
The pricing on this was just released. A Limited crew cab with a few options is about $62k MSRP. This is a joke of a price tag for this vehicle.
Looks good on paper. F150 Lariat with 2.7V6 Twin Turbo, FX4 and tow package all the way, I own one since 2019, very happy with it and will replace with similar if not with F250 Lariat then F150 Lightening long range.
R v Ontario
I’ve got an’18 supercrew, 3.55 gear, tow pkg, 4x2, 2.7 XLT that’s gets a consistent 19.5 city 25.8 highway.happy as hell with it.
Max tow is 7700 lbs
A few observations and opinions: 1) I think this is a good looking truck and they will sell as many as they can build. 2) They should have offered a V-8. 3) It's hard to believe that a vehicle this large can have limited head room. 4) The 4.2" digital dash for lower end models is way too small. That was okay 5 yrs ago. Not now. 5) No tricks for the tail gate is a mistake in my book. 6) The 14" touch screen is brilliant - looks great and doesn't stick up into your field of vision like other screens can. 7) 7.5 seconds to 60 seems slow for that much power. 8) Toyotas may be known for reliability, but I have trouble believing a vehicle this complex is going to be trouble free right out of the gate. I would not buy that 1st yr of production. 9) To get one of these, I bet you will have to pay $10,000 over sticker price. These will not be cheap.
Always a good idea to avoid the first year, but I don't see any unusual complexity. A turbocharger is no big deal these days. They don't fail often.
Mark miller
That’s not what y’all said 6-7 months ago when hoping that they would have a v8 option. Y’all were saying how fords v6 turbos would fail and that it’s design would put too much stress on the engine. Now being you have no choice but to accept the turbo engine, it’s all freakin roses an shit. Ford once again was ahead of the game, they have built some good engines that apparently Toyota copied from.
Pathetic..
Toyota's first turbo truck was the late 80s pickup.
And it appears that this model has not changed much since the ‘80s
Outstanding review. Well done
It's better than the outgoing models, but I think Toyota missed the mark on a few things. Alex didn't disclose whether he was at elevation or sea level. But if this test was done at sea level the acceleration is pretty lousy. 7.6 seconds is at least a second behind the direct competition. That's even slower than the outgoing V8. Wi th h this returning 17.5 mpg I can only wonder what the 5.7 could have been hooked to the ten speed? It's better but if it were my money I would take the F150 or Ram.
correction : 1987 Toyota pickup sr5 turbo was the first turbo (mini xtra cab)
That rear bumper reminds me of the 90s Chevy S-10 rear bumper. Is that where they got their inspiration?. It does look rather cheesy.
Good review man, I really love how Toyota designed their all new Tundra. In my head, the new Tundra looks better than the old one.
GODDAMN TOYOTA why does such a gigantic vehicle have issues with headroom for people who aren't 7ft tall?!
You're definitely screwed if you're 6'2 and larger. They keep putting little Asians inside these trucks thinking it's good for Americans.
@@rxonmymind8362 Also 6'2" is just barely above the 94th percentile. 6'4" is basically the 99th meaning 99 percent of Americans would fit in that truck.
Does this require premium gas?
Rear footwell has a transmission hump? The interior just seems cramped compared to other full size trucks.
Toyota’s first turbo truck and 4runner were introduced in 1986. Yes the turbo truck was the post powerful small truck you could buy at the time.
The Dream truck right now for me current tech and reliable!!
My dream is to be able to read run-on sentences and gibberish.
@@Chilicharger665 I'm about to tonight
The grill is so big it’s pushing the headlights to the side of the car!
Looks stupid to me
Toyota needs to make a regular cab Tundra again if not its GM, Ford or Ram for me.
The market is too small and unprofitable for Toyota. They'll leave fleet sales to the other guys.
$16 per month for navigation seems expensive
They just want everyone to use Android auto and apple car play at that moment.
Automakers trying to generate revenue from subscriptions, like software companies.
I agree. that is BS.
Toyota seems to have forgotten that everyone and their dog is asking us consumers for monthly subscriptions....too friggin' much!
I bet the take rate will be low. Why pay for Toyota’s crappy nav system when I already have Google Maps and Waze?
Only reason to use factory navigation is when there is no cell reception. Or else just use android auto/apple car play. Toyota charging for a subscription to use their connected navigation seems pointless.
Premium fuel required for max output(too bad on the detuned base versions). No 4WD Auto(all Big 3 makers offer it). Slow for all of the power that it has. For the size, the interior is somewhat inefficient in dimensions and comfort. Noisier interior than the Ram, which is slated to become even quieter soon. Poor(ish) MPG with the V6, though better than the 5.7(one can only imagine that engine with this trans though). Then there is the matter of unknown reliability, a huge concern since the previous vehicle was one of the most reliable vehicles on the planet. I just think Toyota had ample time to knock it out of the park and they didn't quite do that.
More subparness from Toyota.
Auto 4x4 was probably omitted for fuel efficiency reasons. I'd need to look into how the system works, but I bet they are cutting off the whole front drivetrain to save a fraction of a MPG.
I'm sure they also limited engine performance to reduce emissions on wide open throttle. It'll make 389hp, but might take a while to ramp up.
Well done man. Comprehensive review 👍
"While Americans can’t seem to get enough of the mid-size pickups from Japanese automakers, they absolutely shun their full-size trucks. According to data from WardsIntelligence, the highest market share Toyota has seen with Tundra was 9.1% and that was in 2007. It currently hovers in the 5% range. It’s even worse for Nissan. The best the Titan was able to muster was 3.5% of the market in 2005. Today it’s at 1.5%. With the Detroit Three commanding 94% of full-size pickup sales this year, it might almost make more sense for Toyota and Nissan to share a large truck platform." Autoline
Nice video, we only have a Hilux here in the Philippines, i hope that great Truck will soon hit the Philippine market, TNGA-F very nice Truck.
And we want the Hilux in the USA! 😜
Looking at it from the side it looks like the transition between the cab and the bed is quite disjointed. Just doesn't look right.
Good review! Very detailed-which is good! Not sure about the jeans...
I hope they upgrade the Tacoma with the same powertrain.
That would be awesome but it will probably be a 4 cylinder turbo.
Yeah more like 2.5t hybrid or just regular 2.5t
the exterior view from aft end (driver side ) - need to activate image stabilization
Wow the 0-60 is slower than my Pacifica hybrid mini van
Waiting for your stats on the tundra. Wanna know how quiet is the cabin! Thx
Thanks Alex great review as usual
It’s two of you’ll I’ve been waiting for you Alex an Savage-geese both of you’ll are very very detailed with you’ll reviews
What's the braking distance from 60 to 0mph? And mpg if driving a 4x4 Tundra in 2x4 mode? Thanks!
Hope there is an option for 6 seat. I don’t need 100 a inch screen in front of my while driving but I need 6 seat.
No bench seat so no hip room. Stupid huge console.
And a stupid looking screen, looks like someone just glued a tablet to the center console/dash
Alex are you sure the SR version only makes 348 hp and 405 lb-ft of torque?
Ye
If that is the case, mpg should be better.
When you’re the only car maker with good car play
Alex, I am concerned the cabin is smaller (with less leg and headroom) like other TNGA Toyotas. Will the 8 foot bed on SR work trucks be 'TNGAed' down to 7'6"?
From other videos, it looks like the double cab back seat has less legroom. A longer truck, but less room in the cab compared to prior generation. Maybe when the official numbers come out this won't be true....but very disappointing if true.
Toyota says they kept the same wheelbase as the 2021, but they increased the length of the bed (in most trims). Not sure what that means...
Bradley
Less room In The back and you get to smell the air that circulates around the batteries that you are sitting on top of.
“Oh what a feeling, Toyota “
I'm a bit disappointed. From a towing and mpg aspect, there's no reason to buy this over the competition.
Shame there's no V8. But that's not Toyota's fault. Trust me, Toyota would rather huck another 5.7 in there and be done with than have to design and manufacturer (and warranty) a new complicated TT engine. Too many external pressures are forcing all automakers into this trap. Such a shame.
Absolutely!
I have the 5.7 in my 2013 Land Cruiser. While I like the engine, the fuel economy is horrible: 12.5 in the city. A more fuel efficient drivetrain is long overdue from Toyota.
@@M1911jln I hear you on that, but in practice, these TT V6's aren't all that much better than V8's in the real world. People tend to be in boost all the time and your MPG plummets at that point. I know 2.7 Ecoboost owners that can't get over 14mpg. Physics is physics, you need to use energy to move these heavy trucks, and the 200 series Land Cruiser is a very big boy. Let's hope this TTV6 can improve on this however. Because even if it does a lot, the V8 just has this smooth way of operation that V6's just can't give you. I'll wait to pass judgement on that until I can drive one.
No, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't. They use V-8s in so few models, and those slow sellers, that the unit cost of each engine must be high. They didn't develop this 3.5t from scratch for the Tundra. They already make similar V-6s for a fair number of models that sell in volume. This particular one may be tuned for truck use, but it's not a new engine.
@@markmiller3279 I think you missed my point. It's not so much the number of cylinders - it's the forced induction. Designing and manufacturing a turbo engine is very much more expensive than a naturally aspirated motor. Not to mention the hybrid+turbo version. Have you seen the mechanicals on these new Tundras? It's absolutely more complicated and expensive to build. Which means for us, more expensive to buy and maintain. Reliable, sure. But it will cost you more when these things eventually start to need attention. The intercooler system alone is quite complex. I stand by my original assertion that Toyota doesn't want to be building these because it's more complicated and expensive than an NA V8.
A monthly subscription for Navigation, LoL, no thanks, what Toyota genius thought that was a good idea?
Did you notice any turbo-lag with the NON-HYBRID engine? Also, what trims have the driver side seat/thigh extender?
did the audio during the drive review ping pong between left and right ears for anyone?
Thank you for confirming that I wasn't having a stroke.
Really do like all but the bold grill...maybe a 2023.
And they play the SOUND of a bigger engine in the speakers??? Thought it was a cheat when Ford did it. Come on. Toyota.
Do enjoy your reviews, though! Great job as always!
They learned it from the germans… one of the most stupid things to happen since electronics.
will the new Tacoma have a hybrid option as well?
Definitely not what I expected. I was hoping the rumors about a plug-in hybrid were true.
I am excited to test the new Tundra, but I must admit that there are some disappointments, especially after such a long wait. Based on what I've seen so far, the SR5 TRD would be my choice, but the 2022 GMC Sierra deserves a look too.
I’d really like to know if you can still get the bench seat and column shifter on the SR and SR5. It probably will keep it from getting the higher end options but I don’t care. Just as long as I have some kind of screen with Apple Car Play/Android Auto.
Everything I've seen says bench seat and column shifter and gone. For shame.
Tfl had a video with the lead designer that said they got rid of the front bench seat. We bought a 2021 2wd SR5 Crewmax with the front bench.
This is not Toyotas 1st turbo truck… Lemmie guess next will be 2022 Z06, Chevys 1st sports car… Wrangler, Jeeps 1st off-road SUV…
No V8 = No deal. Period!
I agree!
Can’t even get one in So Cal. Supply chain problems no workers in the plants.
Can't wait to see one of those with one passenger hauling/towing nothing
That passenger is on his way to transport big things, big time! 😋
Maybe a load of feathers..
this tundra is hands down better then the f150 and ram already
They still make the most reliable truck in the country.
"...Chevrolet Silverado1500 Hybrid is the only hybrid in the full-size truck segment. Compared with comparable, non-hybrid models, it delivers 33-percent greater city fuel economy and a 23.5-percent improvement in overall fuel economy, all with the capability customers want in full-size truck - including a 6,100-pound (2,767 kg) trailering capacity.
Estimated fuel economy for both 2WD and 4WD models is 20 mpg in the city and 23 on the highway...." GM Media with a larger 300-volt battery and 6.0l V8 circa 2012!
Isn’t the Ford F-150 Hybrid comparable?
@@neilbarratt1523 much more so than the Tundra.
@@neilbarratt1523 Absolutely! That press clipping was incorrect.
No more extending thigh cushion option on the driver’s seat? Say it isn’t so. Joining the Avalon in the growing group of Toyota products that formerly offered a very useful feature for taller folks :(
How tall r u sir
@@Ecuador006 I’m 6’1” but have longer legs and have noticed over a long trip that lack of thigh support can cause fatigue, numbness, or even pain depending on the length of the seat bottom cushion. Typically, the shorter the bottom cushion, the worse it gets.
Previous-gen upper trim Tundras and Avalons were among the most comfortable seats for me in the non luxury class of cars. Perhaps the best was the 7th gen Nissan Maxima.
I think the thigh extension is on the higher trims. I know I saw it in videos when thus was unveiled last month, think it was platinum or TRD pro.
@@michaels7984 That’s great news Michael, I’ll check it out
The problem with Toyota is the plastic material that looks very cheap
Yep, I'm getting one. SR5 with the TRD Sport package, probably. Time to finally say goodbye to my 2012.
Will you miss that V8? I had a 2011 for 9 years..
@@justinfontaine5539 I don't really think that I will miss the V8 other than the sound, lol. I do understand people's reliability concerns regarding a V8 vs a boosted V6; those turbos are just more things that can go bad.
@5:28 Why would the SR produce less power? Is Toyota trying to detour away from the SR? Or will the SR get better MPG?
I guess it's because the previous generation SR5 models (up till 2019) had either the 4.0 v6 (from the 4runner with about 278HP) or the 4.6 V8 with 301HP as engine options. Toyota probably didn't want to use those engines anymore, so they did what they felt was the next best thing: reduce the power of the TT V6, but not by a huge margin over the more powerful version of the engine. Or they're going Ford's route, ford has a 2.7 TT V6 and two versions of the 3.5 TT v6. Toyota probably didn't want to make two different TT V6 engines. At least it's not a turbocharged 4 cylinder (👀GM).
@@damilolaakanni so I have a 2018 SR with the 4.6 v8. I assume the 2022+ must be cheaper, but its also possible it could get slightly better MPG. I suppose this also means no SR Hybrid.
@@BradleyEdwardAnderso Hybrid powertrain is only available on the Limited and higher trims.
i love it but Toyota really screwed up on the payload numbers.
Yup Toyota screwed up big time again, they say it can tow 12,000 lbs and yet thei model has a payload pkg of 1400 lbs.
So when towing 12k trailer you have to have 10% on the receiver which is 1200 lbs. So an avg guy weighs 200 lbs you are maxed out on payload. So send the obese wife, dog, cooler, an spawn in another vehicle cause this vehicle won’t handle it. Even an 8000 lb trailer would prob blow the payload if you have passengers in it.
It’s just another disappointment
Alex whatever mount you are using for the outside camera shakes way too much. It's very annoying. I noticed it in another video from today (10-12-21). Gives you vertigo if you focus on it too long.
The rear camera was attached to the bed of an empty pickup truck--obviously, it's going to vibrate. [It bothered me a bit, too, but I just looked elsewhere on the video]
I think the 5.7 and 10 speed woulda been very interesting, but oh well
@Henderson Guy Ford has proved that with proper maintenance this works just fine, these twin turbo V6's do a decent job of mimicking diesels, which are better for towing than NA V8 gas engines. Only reason the 5.7 would be interesting was because it was DOHC and not a pushrod, so they could have done some fun stuff if they kept it.
That handlebar mustache grill trim piece looks very weird.
Ehh, it's 2021. Nobody knows what the heck car makers are thinking with their designs. Take Hyundai and Kia for example
Cleft lip..🤣
Where is the video for the infotainment? Can't seem to find it.
Redline got 6.8 sec 0-60. Also San Antonio's elevation is 650ft. If you look at some of the foreign LC300 vs LC200 5.7 V8 drag race video, it seems that at least for the 0-60 or quarter mile there isn't a lot of difference between the V8 and the V6 it is afterwards that the V6 starts pulling away.
That was the hybrid engine
@@rajeshbhattacharjee2989 hybrid got 6.3
@@miraphycs7377 ooppps. Sorry, missed that.
650 feet is nothing. Shouldn't affect performance measurably.
“Toyota’s first North American turbo truck in 30 years”
I know, im being nitpicky. Coz gotta remmbr the global market Hilux pickup truck has been running turbodiesels since the mid80s and has continuously offered turbodiesels since the mid90s.
The current gen Hilux is a proper work unit: option for a 2.8 turbodiesel with 200hp/500Nm(368lbft) and 6speed auto. Haul/tow rating is 1000kg(2200lb) and 3500kg(7800lb) respectively. From what u guys would call a “small” pickup truck😂
Do you think they’ll offer the airbag suspension as an option on the pro?
Look up the Toyota pickup with the 22re-T it had a turbo way back in the 80's. This is not a first for Toyota.
I had a 1985 Toyota pickup with the 22 re...I guess lol. I don't remember the turbo . My 1985 was a fully loaded 4x4 with a 5 speed manual. I could almost outrun it on foot but I loved the truck. I took it on some mild off road in Colorado . It was fun !
I had a coworker that had that truck.
@@JH-mt3pp most did not have the T but it was an option.
When is the official review dropping?
My V8 5.3 Trailboss gets 19 over all. 17.5 mpg with a V6 and growl track for speakers on acceleration does not get me excited. Reliability is still all Toyota has to offer. I do like that the new Tacoma is coming soon.
Yea yea but can it bacon???
Nope only a 400 watt inverter, unlike the Ford's 7.2 KW inverter.
I only own Toyota cars (Siena and Corolla) and I badly need to replace the Corolla with a truck. I waited 3 years for this new model, hoping there will be a big jump in fuel economy. I was hoping this new model would be around 28 mpg for the regular non hybrid, we'll see what the hybrid will offer, but can't see it go above 28 mpg. With the fuel economy advantage gone, other than reliability I don't see any selling point for this Tundra. Ford's reliability seems to be ok nowadays, so to tell you the truth I don't see the advantage with the Tundra.
Get the ridgeline then
@@Ecuador006 towing is not great in the Ridgeline. The F150 hybrid makes sense to me, or even a RAM 1500 diesel for fuel efficiency
There is no way on earth a non-hybrid truck of this size, shape, and weight could get 28 mpg. It's just not possible. The disappointing part is that the hybrid doesn't get better gas mileage.
@@markmiller3279 the RAM 1500 diesel does, but yes it would be hard for a gas truck to get there,but with a lot of weight loss and great5 aerodynamics it should be achievable when not pulling or carrying a load
That GoPro mount is getting put to work on that road haha
Dont want a v6. The frame seems as weak at the thousands of rotted tundras. Lease it only. Its a throw away fake truck
@12:21 Shout out to the unintuitive left-right volume control on the steering wheel. -Bitter Tacoma Owner
Nice pun. "Limited" headroom 😅😅😅
Excellent review. I didn't know they pumped engine sound through the speakers.
Its all fake
Alex, good one on the 'karate chop' tailgate detail.
Looks good, I think.
?: Are there many Toyota pickups driving around Texas compared to domestic pickups?
It's a decent offering. Not really a fan of the overall design. Still a 4th place truck.
It’s neck an neck with a Subaru
Wait so the SR version has less power???
Well I mean SR is the base tundra
What is the bolt pattern of the wheels?
Had a 2010 DC Ltd., now 2019 CC Plat.....was hoping for more from the 2022 design and starting to think F150 Lightning will be my next truck.
Now the question is will Toyota have an HD pickup in the future?
Probably not, people have been asking that for 25 yrs. they seem to have a prob making a decent 1/2 ton
The performance is very disappointing tbh. The 2.7 ecoboost f150 is faster with less power and torque.
Even the old v8 tundra with 4 less gears is faster…
@@Couchlover47 It has to compete with other trucks in its class. The F150 hybrid does 0-60 in 5.3 seconds. It may not matter to you, but to a subset of people that matters greatly.
On the other hand, Toyota could have tuned it conservatively for reliability and low stress over outright speed.
@@johnjames7712 the only people that care are ford, Chevy & ram people. Toyota people will return with money in hand. People are paying absurd amounts of money for used tundras and Tacoma's. I've owned Tacomas and tundras and absolutely do not care if the others are faster or can tow 2-3k lbs more.
This transmission is not as aggressive as the Ford's 10 speed hence the slow acceleration
@@VARITHMS You think like iphone users. We don't care what others have to offer because you know you have a overrated product on hand.
@@henrybrar I buy use Toyotas and drive them to 250k+ miles with no problem. I enjoy hearing others start with " all I've had to" then list what they've replaced to get to 200k miles.
Stupid to get rid of the V8. Fuel economy isn't significantly better than the V8.
They've been gradually purging the V-8 from their lineup (see Lexus LS for example). I'm sure they want to shut down the production line dedicated to making such a little-used engine. The unit costs for making each engine must be high.
Hood seems much longer than other trucks.
It seems unnecessarily long if all they're offering is a V-6. They had the perfect opportunity to make a lighter, more compact big truck and threw it away.
10 speed transmissions are just lube for the CVT future.
Too bad that exterior GoPro mount ain't workin' too good.
I don’t like the front end and I drive a Toyota. The double cab rear seat is now almost unusable. The fanboys will buy some, but the big three have nothing to worry about. Toyota will have a lock on the #4 slot.
Subaru might take fourth spot..
ram, tunda, gmc and f150. Ram is the best exterior design. toyota is for durability.
I guess you think that if a vehicle is out for six months its reliable eh? Not surprised
Not sure why your 0-60's are so much slower than everyone else.