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EVERYDAY AT TSM IS A BANGER LOL
"Andy: Guys no one is buying green wards. WTF buy more green wards.
TSM DL: Uhh... they took those out of the game like months ago.
Andy: Whatever, just... we're not warding enough. "
This is the only exchange you need to hear to know what kind of person Andy is.
Is this an actual conversation?
If you can find a link for this you'd give me a good laugh :)
@@thomasperez7797 sadly
@@hermestrismegistus491 there's no video clip of it but DL talks about in one of his videos about regi
@@khirsah666 i will love you if you are able to link a clip of this haha
Lmao “ I talked to my lawyer and he said yeah it’s fine “ GIGACHAD
Every vid in More Doublelift is a banger
Love watching Regi FINALLY get some karma his way. Fantastic that Doublelift stood up and said something, hope regi loses his job
@@stevenzemaitis1513 regi owns tsm... he cant lose his job... shareholders can vote him out, but if he has majority shares which is most likely the case, then it wont matter. If he gets enough backlash and riot finds things in their investigation, then im sure riot will ban regi from being tied to the league team. Kinda like montecristo but not as bad. They wont kick tsm out of the lcs.
Who will win . how much money
Ive heard nothing but horror stories about Reginald since way way back in early season2 league on the original boards even. I thought it was an open secret he was a total tyrant and made tsm the toxic place it is.
I heard Reginald used to make interns lick his toes when they made a mistake
@@SuperFUNKMASTERG wtf
Let’s be honest Reginald just use to bully the nerds Bc he knew they weren’t gonna stand up for themselves
@@SuperFUNKMASTERG I used to be an intern at TSM..... He used to whip out his donger and spread peanut butter on it. Said first one to to lick it all off wouldn't be fired that day.
yeah i remember the video of him being a huge douche to dyrus. Dyrus had made a mistake or something and regi wouldnt move past it. He kept throwing jabs at dyrus until he blew up and yelled. Then regi was mad dyrus blew up.
I legit am unsure of how literally anyone can support this org at this point. He told his lawyer to sue because basically "He's saying bad things about me" which literally all were true according to the fucking Washington Post yesterday.
Idk I’ve tried supporting other orgs but i can’t stop supporting them since I’ve been a fan for so long
@@arjames28 they got you in chains brotha 💀
@@arjames28 sunk-cost fallacy.
@@arjames28 stockholm syndrome
@@BrianXu352 yes
The humor of someone putting CONFIDENTIAL on a document, and then thinking it's actually confidential, is unparalleled
You're actually the goat for tweeting that
Andy is really leaning into his evil rich guy identity.
LMAO!! Posted Cease and Desist Letter on twitter. Gigachad!
Doublelift, you are On point being able to Speak your mind on anything you want. Feeling trapped or Witnessing someone else just maliciously harass others and try to get away with it is not ok. You have all of our support. Keep these bangers coming.
@@cosmicXreptile it's not that we aren't supporting those employees either. It's that out of all those who have the biggest opportunity to shed a light into this issue, it happens to be Doublelift simply because of how big he is in the community. A distant comparison is when Korean soloqueue was being constantly ruined by chinese wintraders and pros running it down and then the Qingtian incident happened and Faker had to speak up so Qingtian got a month's salary taken away and he was suspended for a while as well.
Doublelift literally tried to rejoin the org even with his knowledge of these problems. Doublelift isn’t some martyr like you guys think. He is only coming out with this because it benefits him
@@Brandon-rg1vz so?
If he loses he will lose his job?
If anyone is still delusional about TSM go get some help ffs. I saw one person make an Amber heard joke comparing her to Doublelift. Amber is and still lying. Doublelift has been speaking nothing but truth. To anyone who hasn’t seen the one hour video from Doublelift earlier go watch it.
Amber Heard did actually give legal statements in front of a neutral court. (Which, just for context, all the original #metoo cases didn't do... they were like "oh, before a Judge... never mind...) so unless Doublelift (who right now is preaching to his own choir) stands trial before a jury, you are right, they are not the same...
But don't call her a liar, until that persecution is through. And then ask yourself if DL had the same guts...
Montecristo even said a while back (when the whole drama was just starting) that Doublelift was incapable of lying.
There is a reason why Amber hasn't gotten any big roles... her acting on the bench was horrible.
Which video?
amber who? amber turd?
Regi thought the lawsuit was a gold cold, but he's just blue carding again.
A lot of things in these contracts aren’t even legal/legally binding, they just put it in the wording of the contract so people who can’t afford legal counsel don’t realize that the clauses are illegal and non enforceable
This is a very good point. Tons of companies will have employees sign waivers that are meaningless. It just stops people too ignorant to know their rights.
Never been a fan of double lift, but after all this, much respect
Doublelift and LegalEagle should do a joint video on this.
I will say I was surprised at first when you said those things about Reggie. I thought that his big issue was being a player/teammate while also being TSM's owner. After all these years he's still the same person, possibly even worse than before.
Is that even from an actual attorney? They didnt have Esq or JD after their name. Did TSM cheap out on hiring someone who can actually practice law? LMAO
They always say confidential on these letters to try and keep people
From showing them but from what I can tell it’s completely legal
of course. You haven't signed anything saying you wont show them, so there is nothing that is stopping you.
The anti-Regi is Joe Marsh, the research shows that the carrot beats the stick, Regi is that middle school coach who thinks you'll run faster if you don't drink water during practice
yes, negative reinforcement has been proven to basically never work ever in any instance. It teaches the person to cover up the problem instead of solving it. Real learning requires an active participant.
@@PatrykUnderhill Joe doesn't own T1. T1 is owned by Comcast and SK Telekom. Joe Marsh was appointed by Comcast to manage T1. Thus he is just an employee.
@@PatrykUnderhill huh? What are you smoking Pat? How is Joe worse in any of the ways I'm describing? Joe doesn't own T1, he was hired by them. Being an owner/creator is completely irrelevant to what I'm saying, I'm describing successful management practices. Is this a personal issue here?
"yes I'm an asshole, but it was mean to point that out!" - Andy
Contracts only bind a person in light of legal actions , that is if company does something illegal it should never been covered by a contract. It's a legally binding document , you can't be bound legally if your actions are illegal.
The basis for my stance is "common sense" , not all contracts have to be written or even spoken , if it within the common sense that The company has to be operating Legally for it to have Legal power over it's employees in regards to these specific situations. That's How I understand the nature of "contracts".
It's not like you're on a movie set and the clause exist to protect the movie from leaks and exist for the element of surprise.
This case is of what I understand a proven repeat abuser with a lot of questionable practices. There's no fking way it would stand in court
RIP Maples Career
lol hope this is a joke, Maple would love to get those money from TSM. He is not young anymore considering the Esport industry
I hope this ripples into a movement that makes orgs management more accountable. Cya Regi, all of your 3 fans will miss you.
So I took like a 2 year break from league and just got back this month. What exactly did DL say about TSM to start all this?
not one boring day in esports
Man, this shit is so sad. I was a fan of this team for so long, not knowing how bad it is. Now I don't want to be a TSM fan, but its hard to be the same level of fan of any other team after so many years. It just wouldn't feel the same. Making me fall out with LCS in general.
The signs were there for so long, even since Regi was playing.
Isn't regi being mega toxic like common knowledge? Like I remember the first time I heard TSM LoL owner is that he's very toxic before anything else about him.
@@chaosplayer9903 I mean, kinda but it wasn't this concrete. There were cases of him blowing up at players. Which is bad enough. But this stuff that hes doing with non-player employees who are making pennies in comparison, and still taking his shit. Like, people slaving for him paycheck to paycheck, and still having to worry about him blowing up and firing them over nothing is insane to me. To me, that is even worse than blowing up at players. And that doesn't even account for all the actually illegal hiring practices.
4:00 but the TSM brand would be the biggest loss for Reginald cause it would not survive a lawsuit against double lift cause it would split the fan base between TSM and double lift
DoubleLeak back at it PogU
Holy double lift is fearless and knows his shit
wait what im just seeing this im so excited.
The difference between double lift and tsm that DL likes to hold people accountable and shows transparency
If any law firm is watching this, I guarantee you that suing Andy pro bono would be great PR with all these drama going on.
You know how much microsoft and google are spending in the entertainment industry. You know how much advertisement costs for events of games this popular. You know this is where the young impressionable people's attention will be. You know how much people hate the idea of a corporation or rich person abusing their position against normal people.
This is headline material, and the interesting kind that people pay attention to, and if you come in as helping without asking for payment, you'll be part of that story.
Now i want a Wukong Bully CEO skin that will be awesome
Technically speaking, they can't go after you for commenting on any of Regi's abusive behaviors that were already public knowledge before you talked about it. Second, your attorney could argue the terms of the NDA are too vague and expansive. Third, they don't have in the NDA how long this is valid for, which is really important. Regi must think hes fucking Google if he thinks he can get away with these types of NDAs and attacks.
Doublelift shall now be known as Doubleleak 😁
when everybody uses the law to get backup
and not even try to handle mano y mano
Anyone knows what DL said that it made Andy sue him?
wow this isn't even clickbait
Regi should sue himself for releasing all those old vids of him abusing Dyrus, Wildturtle, Xspecial, etc.
If you can't legally cost TSM reputation, can you still trash reginal as a person?
The argument would be that by damaging one reputation you're damaging the other, which a case could honestly be made for given that part of TSM's brand is Regi since her competed on the team and is well known across the community. This is how he tries to protect his company and himself through fear mongering
What about the whistle-blower clause?
I never care for DL but now I do respect brother
All this is cool and whatnot but can anyone link the BGM of this video? It's really soothing after my game with a top laner that ran it down after no ganks by 3 min in
Thanks for this video DL
Seems like they're just fighting something about leena lmao.
When i was a TSM fan, back in the day with Wukong, TheOddOne, The Rain Man, Xpecial and Chaox, was always telling my friends that Wukong will always be a douchebag no matter what happens to his team. Stopped being a fan of TSM when Bjergsen moved to coaching as it wasn't the same team anymore and i'm so glad i took that decision tbh, even if it's just Wukong the real problem here.
I am glad this happened. This will atleast highlight issues with US labor.
I don’t understand how anyone still supports TSM at this point for all the messed up things they have done.
DL intentionally poking the bear is not a good move lol
andy is the amber to DL's Depp
way to handle it in the best way possible, that little rude dork will get his coming just a matter of time.
Doublelift you're a savage lmao
its like when the kidnappers say "if you call the police ill kill him"
defamation is not only about it being true or not, like jhonny depp case going on TSM would have to prove that DL lied and THAT lie cost them big money. defaming someone or something means you're costing them money because they can't get booked or they can't get employees and you're ruining that person income or that brand way of making money, it all comes down to money
It's hard to win a defamation case
@@legendaryhumper yes because its hard to prove that 1 specific thing ruined your life
Justice for Captain Jack Sparrow and DL
HOLY GIGACHAD
Lmao at chat thinking DL can comfortably throw 300k away
don't worry one more summer split and they won't have money to buy lunch anymore
04:10 2 million dollars leagal fees. Wtf ? In our country the legal fees for this kind of trials is like 10k, max. And at the end the loser pays for both sides.
The loser paying legal fees has to be expressly written in their contract. The "American System" defaults to each party paying their own legal fees. And lawyers can get very expensive. Especially if one party is willing to spend more to extended the case. Lawyers charge like $500 an hour for their work and even $200 an hour for their paralegals' work. In cases that last multiple years and are malicious persued to increase the amount of time the attorneys have to spendon the case, that can really add up.
LMAO~ DL really posted it on twitter haha~
this type of lawsuit is refer to as a slapp suit. where a rich person tries to bully less wealthy people for saying things the richer party finds unfavorable
i thought about a slapp too
there are states though that protect against slapp suits
dunno if DL is one of those
I know 100-200k is a lot but DL can countersue them for $500k LMFAO
ok no lol
Where’s @LegalEagle to explain this to me?
DL does a pretty good job. It’s quite straightforward. LegalEagle is great though
all this for a drop of blood, andy mad you stole his girl
Ok I’m not a lawyer so I’m not sure but wouldn’t TSM avoid going to an actual trial at all cost? Like let’s say everything about Andy is true. Wouldn’t there be hundreds of witnesses called to the stand saying hundreds of super foul stories and memories??
Even if TSM could win the trial, they probably wouldnt do it, because it would be such a bad PR stunt that they would bleed sponsors left, right and center. And a decent reputation is all an Org has apart from money that makes them stand out for players and sponsors. They just provide a service, they dont produce anything. They can only sell their reputation and thats it.
I used to be Regi fan that hated Doublelift. My judgement in character as a 16 years old was severly flawed lol.
Damn i forgot all about Bryce Blum
some next level in-your-face machiavellian bullshit going on here lol. and frankly the lore rivals arcane.
It's called a Slapp st. John Oliver did great pieces on it.
It’s called a SLAP suit and it’s legal sadly. The only thing you can do is publicly denounce them for the PR damage.
its a shame RIOT NA will do absolutely nothing to TSM cause they are there golden child, but I'm fucking rooting for doublelift and all the other people TSM fucked over
and they are still trash team comparing to others
IANAL, but I'm pretty sure disparagement also must contain falsehoods.
My honest opinion is that riot needs to bring back relegation and tsm needs to be taken out of this league. Like all the players that have left need to go against them and play their minds out to make them always lose and then they get kicked for not being competitive and trash.
I think they would be forced out of lcs and their spot would be up for bid to any other org that wants to join the spacs
How come he stopped talking about it back then (since it was stressful etc.) but now talks about it again? Aren't they able to start the case now that he called him a bully and more or is it because DL left TSM?
I imagine it is because now tsm is facing so much scrutiny compared to back then outside of DL. It’s going to be hard for tsm to take legal action now with their rep in the dump.
He outscaled TSM
@@Trubbl3 gathering storm BASED
i must say as a viewer, i kinda enjoyed TSM for many years ... now i just simply hate the org, regardless of players playing ... its just cringe and disgusting .. (sry for my eng)
Just make him file in a anti slaap suit state cause then if you win he’s responsible for paying your legal bills
This isnt defamation or anything along those lines you are literally reading word for word from other sources. They juat want you to shutup its what all big businesses do to crush and settle out of court.
holy shit dl is a gigachad
He has no case.
Andy is just an angry boy, who got bullied in school and now he is on revenge spree becuase he got rich :D classic story
Doublift steals his girl and continues to just rip the guy apart lol
If TSM is protecting themselves is because they have A LOT to hide that, if known, they would probably disappear forever.
I’m biased but even that doesn’t surprise me
I was a fan of the TSM league team since season 2. TRM, #baylife, fireman Dyrus, OddOne streams, all that. Regi was always the worst part to watch and consistently brought the image (and especially play) of the team down in my eyes. When TSM Legends was on I usually had to skip the parts where he was talking it was so cringe, and this is when I'm fifteen lmao. It's amazing the talent and personality that flocked to the brand and equally baffling how it was squandered (Bjerg, Swordart, DL, Santorin, Akaadian, Brokenblade, Shenyi, Spica tbh, and that's just players). No one should be surprised by the info Leena, DL, and many others have been coming forward with. Fuck him for being an abusive bully and for turning my favorite team into a garbage personal ego project. Couldn't even turn their games on after the Akaadian/Grig business, which basically meant I stopped watching US league teams for awhile. Crazy what power and entitlement does to a mf.
Yeah he's just another weirdo and psycho who happened to get into a power position. He shouldn't be allowed to continue in Esports, but the brand is too big to abandon.
Wait does that mean that Doublelift will stop trashing on TSM because he risks getting sued? Someone please help explain thanks.
Yes Ethan it’s because TSM Reginald has all the money in the world to sue you and basically you need to hire lawyers it will cost a ton of money and years. Reginald is the kind of guy who will fire your ass because you look him in the eyes and he didn’t like your facial expression after him talking and bullying you in front of other people around you. Plus the fact he will close you the doors into the industry.
@@Lalogarza100 I see that clears thing up more.
TSM wukong back at it
Regi is a public figure he has additional legal requirements to go through plus they would have to prove what DL did is what effected his reputation rather than all the other publications, videos, investigations etc
The real question is why some people still supporting this kind of organization?
Be a man, do the right thing.
isn't this whole situation so weird given that Doublelift is plowing Regi's sloppy seconds (Leena)?
oooh, explain
Oh yeah I’m a bully who silences people? Well silence peasant or I’ll take you to court 😤
I have tried to look into the matter a little bit in terms of non-disparagement clauses in California. From what I can tell, a non-disparagement clause is valid and enforceable as long as it does not relate to protected classes or sexual assault. Hopefully someone with some more legal knowledge can chime in, but I think the commenter on reddit was not correct when he said that there is no chance that TSM could win this. I hope it is not the case, but if the clause is not prohibited by California law, then Doublelift could be on the line for those damages that they are claiming. It is extremely rare that a court would not enforce the terms of a valid contract because that would set a precedent that undermines future contracts and contracts are one of the most important legal documents we have. I just hope DL has a good legal team that will give him truthful and honest advice and not try to sugar coat things because he is a high profile client.
I have NEVER liked TSM because of Andy and I will never be a TSM fan because of him. I have never liked him.
TSM Wukong: the Donald Trump of LCS.
Man i was off TSM BUT FUCK! I'm anti tsm now. No hate to the players on the team just the ORG is fucking tailspinning.
Tbh this whole thing is because of DL dating Leena who used to be Regi's gf. Honestly.
Wukong.
So... in the country of freedom... youre not "that" free to speak or give your opinion...
With democrats running this country, it's (free) if they like you.
3:55
Wait a minut... I dont know anything about the US justice system but do I understand it correctly that the "loser" of a lawsuit case doesnt need to pay the "winners" lawsuit costs? I am literally speechless if this is true.. This practically means that poor people never can get justice if they cant afford it, regardless if they are right? So if a super rich guy do something "semi-bad" towards someone, a crime which is usually reimbursed with $100k, they can just say: "if you take us to court with your 100% secure evidence that definitely will win you the case, we will make the lawsuit and the trial so expensive that those $100k you will be rewarded will literally be nothing in comparision and you will lose everything you own so you better drop the lawsuit" ?
Damn, I really start to realize that Sweden (where I am from) is pretty awesome despite all our flaws, like naivety, our lenient view how to handle criminals and our focus on PC/Woke. I remember when ASAP Rocky was in Sweden not too long ago and he and his crew beat the snot out of some annoying kid and got arrested. After this, current president Trump actually tried to contact our Prime minster to have him released.... That is not how the Swedish justice system works. Rich and powerful people CANT make their own rules here. Everyone is treated the same to the law. And back to the topic; in Sweden, the loser of the trail must pay for the winners costs and if they cant afford, the state even pays it for him. (which I think is a bit annoying since it costs the tax payer millions to pay for lawsuit expenses for criminal without any money)
They have "American Rule", basically each party is responsible to it's own legal fees, in EU we have something called "English rule" or simply losers pays. But legal fees can be part of the legal suit, so even in US ordinary ppl can be compensated for their legal fees.
But even in countries like Sweden rich side will just use some legal tactics to prolong the case for as long as they could (if they know they are gonna lose), they will do it till the "right side" is left without a penny and just couldnt keep going with the case. And eventually the "right side" will just have to settle behind closed doors (happens most of the time in cases between big corps vs ordinary ppl). And we know that civil suits can be very long and draining, for example look at Depp/Heard case, Depp sued her in march of 2019 and only now we see public hearings, it's very draining financially
Unless some law firm use the said case as an investment (or publicity) and agree to keep going without paying till the case is won (like law firm wont charge legal fees during the case but they will take a big part of the settlement money or something like that).
Hope I helped a bit. and Sweden is an amazing country btw, I lived there for like year or something, amazing place.
Welcome to the league of SLAPP suits
Capitalism at its finnest my man. Fucking the poor as max as u can while the richs literally can swin on ther own money and also literally control the world fucking system
@@ckskylark welcome to seeing the darkside of major corporations while this sounds horrible on Tsm side its probaly childs play to what real mega corporations do on a daily.
it really doesnt make a difference. Poor people cant sue in EU either, as they still need to pay the cost first before they can get it back if they win the case.
Kinda weird bc Andy was Leena's ex.....