Amen Brother ❤ Psalm 27 King James Version 27 The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? Bless Everyone In Jesus Name ❤
@@BibleLine even if have an evil and unbelieving heart that cause you to fall away from the living God? Even if you have been severed from Christ and have fallen from grace? Even if you have departed from the faith and give heed to doctrine of demons? Even if you walk in darkness, walk after the flesh, and do not want hi to be your light or salvation, unbelief? So, according to you, I can have an evil and unbelieving heart and fall away from the living God, I can be severed from Christ and fall from grace and i Can depart from the faith and give heed to doctrine of demons and I can walk in darkness, walk after the flesh, commit adultery, fornication, even murder, never ever repent or confess my sins.....and the Good Lord will still be your light and Salvation, correct? Truly doctrine of demons.......
You would be saved because you believed in Christ. Your salvation does not hang in the balance because of sin or works. It’s whether you believed in the Son or not - 1 John 5:10-13. Grace teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts. Have you read this exhortation to Titus? - Trent
@@BibleLine So, an unbeliever will have eternal life, and if you do not believe, according to 1 John 5:10 "He who does not believe God has made him a liar...". So, a believer can become an unbeliever and make God a liar, and he will still be saved..... 1 John 3:15 " Any one who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him".... Anyways, it is apparent that you "believe" for about three seconds and then there is nothing else in the bible that you have to do. You have said that then you can have an evil and unbelieving heart that makes YOU FALL AWAY FROM THE LIVING GOD, and you can give heed to doctrine of demons, walk in darkness, walk after the flesh, commit adultery, fornication and even murder, never repent or confess your sins, and heaven will be your home.......Truly doctrine of demons We are saved by faith, an obedient faith, not a dead faith and we become children of God by faith when we are baptized into Christ, when we put Christ on, Gal 3:26-27....
I actually walked this journey. I once was a person who believed in the Lord and professed my love for Him as a child and then got into new age/demonic teachings for 15 years and became a psychic medium/astrologer. I got so deep to the point where I no longer believed Jesus was a real person. I recently came back to Christ 9 months ago after having a person encounter with Jesus in my apartment and got baptized a month later. So I truly believe it is Gods will not to loose a single one. ❤
Pray for my son. He was raised ifb and now 35 years later he's all over the place and looking into catholic tradition. He still insists he believes on the Lord. Thank you brother
1 John 2:9 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
A very good answering to the 3rd question. That charismatics fail to see it is not signs that do anything, but charity, and giving the gospel thats important. The healing of the inside is that very miracle they fail to see. When a person believes in the Son of God for the 1st time, thats the healing that counts.
If they are truly saved (Baptized with The Holy Spirt) they will not depart from the faith. “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:19
Romans 8:14 says: For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. It does not say "but if you turn your back on God and turn to worship satan, you are still God's son."
Question: in 2:50 you said that you don't have to love God to get to heaven, but then 1 Corinthians 16:22 says that if anyone does not love the Lord, let that person be accursed. Even in the Greek the same word that was used in Galatians 1:8-9, anathema, was also used for this specific verse. So how can a person who claims to believe in God not love the Lord while the bible says those who don't are basically damned?
@@DannyLoyd you have to believe the gospel first Do you understand the gospel? I have a gospel video on my channel for you to watch and understand the believe the gospel
When you believe in Christ, you receive a new birth (born again), but you still have your old sinful birth too (flesh). The old birth hates God. He will die. The new birth abides in Christ continually, and he loves God. This is why the choice is up to us whether we walk in the Spirit or walk in the flesh. Therefore, can the believer choose to hate God and still end up in heaven? Yes, but only his new nature will go to heaven. The old birth will die, and we will receive new bodies in heaven. 1 Cor. 15:50-54 - Trent
Heb 3:12 " Take care, brethren, lest there be in any of you an EVIL, UNBELIEVING HEART, leading you to fall away from the living God". 1 Timothy 4:1 " Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times SOME WILL DEPART FROM THE FAITH by giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrine of demons". Gal 5:4 " You are severed from Christ......you have fallen away from grace" 2 Peter 2:14 " They have eyes full of adultery, insatiable for sin....they have hearts trained in greed. Accursed children! Forsaking the right way they have gone astray, they have followed the way of Balaam...." Rev 2:10 " Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life"...... So, according to BibleLine, you can have an evil and unbelieving heart that leads you to fall away from the living God, you can depart from the faith and give heed to doctrine of demons and you can be severed from Christ and fall from grace and you can forsake the right way, AND YOU WILL STILL BE SAVED..... You do not have to WALK IN THE LIGHT, 1 John 1:7 or walk after the Spirit, Romans 8 or obey the Lord's commands 1 John 2:4 but you can walk in darkness, after the flesh, commit adultery, fornication and even murder, and even disobey the Lord's commands, and heaven will be your home.
Ezekiel 18:21-32 ESV [21] “But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. [22] None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live. [23] Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? [24] But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die. [25] “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way not just? Is it not your ways that are not just? [26] When a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice, he shall die for it; for the injustice that he has done he shall die. [27] Again, when a wicked person turns away from the wickedness he has committed and does what is just and right, he shall save his life. [28] Because he considered and turned away from all the transgressions that he had committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. [29] Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ O house of Israel, are my ways not just? Is it not your ways that are not just? [30] “Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, declares the Lord God. Repent and turn from all your transgressions, lest iniquity be your ruin. [31] Cast away from you all the transgressions that you have committed, and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit! Why will you die, O house of Israel? [32] For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Lord God; so turn, and live.”
@@gregorylatta8159 Whatever Jesus commanded. While on earth or after He left the earth and spoke through the Holy Spirit. In the last Chapter of Matthew Jesus tells the Apostles teach all Nations to observe all things whatsoever he commanded them. IT WAS NOT FAITH ONLY that he commanded. He Also commanded many other things just read Matthew Chapter 5-7. And there is more than that in the scriptures!
I think it is interesting you talk about tongues because I drove past a Baptist church and come to the realization about tongues today not being the same as in the bible
You cannot lose salvation, but you can be disciplined and lose reward. We also have to understand that people are judging certain sin (apostasy) as worse than other sin (ie. a white lie), and insist that salvation hinges upon whether or not we engage in certain sins. All sin is unrighteous to God.
@@Ezekio3160 it’s very clear that there are sins worse than others. I feel some Christians just use the “all sins are equal” argument to make themselves more comfortable in their sin.
@@rdogshow No, we judge certain sins according to their human impact, and enact laws to judge them accordingly. The whole point of sin is understanding that we are no better (nor worse) than the unbeliever nor the serial murderer due to our sin, because all sin is unrighteousness to God.
@@Jesussaves.7777 Yes, Sir, I understand those verses along with many other verses which helps me to understand those verses. Nothing can separate those who love God because those who love God will obey God and ask for forgiveness when they sin. Jesus made it plain that those who love Him will obey Him and those who don't, won't. Those who depart from God no longer love Him. The promise is made to those who love God, not to those who don't or who no longer love Him. "All we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose." Not to those who are rebellious against God and who don't love Him. Don't just read that passage. Read the whole Bible. Start with the book of John. Jesus said His sheep know His voice and they follow Him. Romans 8:28 [28]And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Understanding this verse is necessary in understanding the rest of the chapter.
I don't believe anyone who is truly born again can loose or give up their eternal life, your sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. But if you believe in Jesus you Live Him
The second questions answer is why im not exactly free grace. I have an issue with someone in satan worship or witchcraft and we still say they might be saved. I think they have to be witness to. My sister is involved in evil things. I dont think she is saved. Would you guys she professed faith as a kid.
OSAS or as you put it "Eternal Life" is conditional. It is like a warranty. You are protected as long as you do not violate the conditions of the warranty. Or in this case you have eternal life as long as you don't violate the condition. And that condition is you must maintain your faith. You are saved by faith you must maintain it. All arguments in favor of "eternal life" have the implication of being on the condition of maintaining your faith. Several verses come to mind. 1Cor 15:2. Col. 1:21-23. 2Tim 2:11-13, Heb.3:6. & Heb.3:14
The difference between the Israelites in the OT and believers in the NT, is the OT Israelites were not sealed with the Holy Spirit. And because the Sprite of Christ is in us, we do not willfully or rejoice to commit sin as they did. Do we still sin? Yes we do….because Paul talks about the “Body of death” we carry in Romans 7:24. He is speaking to Roman believers and they understood what he meant when he said that. For the crime of murder, the Romans would tie the dead corpse to the murderer ( their victim) and they would live out the rest of their sentence that way as the dead flesh from the body would rot into the person carried it until they died. We will continue to sin, not willingly, because of our dead flesh. Which is why John said if anyone sins, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
Fellow fundamental baptist here. I’ve seen a few of your videos about what I think you would call “free grace” theology and “lordship salvation.” Id like to ask you one question, and it’s not gotcha, I’m just genuinely interested in your answer. What differentiates the belief that the devils have in Jesus from the belief that Christians have in Jesus? I think this answer will really get to the heart of the issue.
James 2:19 has a context that is very important. The demons know they cannot be saved, and they know their destiny. They “tremble” because they know the power of Christ. The point of that verse is not salvific, but it is to point to the fact that the demons are busy in light of their coming judgment (2:12-14) Believers are saved because they believed in Christ for the full payment of their sins. Nothing more, nothing less. - Trent
@@BibleLine you see I think it’s a bit more simple than that. It seems like James is clearly trying to teach us about what living faith looks like. These demons believe intellectually; they believe the correct facts about God. But that clearly is not enough for salvation. What living faith, or saving faith, looks like is a faith that produces works. James saying that works are necessary in an indicative sense is not the same thing as someone saying that works are necessary in an initiative sense. These works indicate that we are saved, but the works do not initiate our salvation. They especially indicate that we are saved to other men, because they cannot see our hearts. But it also provides assurance to believers because they can see the work of the Holy Spirit in their lives. I guess I just don’t see the danger of affirming this. Seems pretty simple and straightforward.
Jesus didn’t come to save demons, he came to save us. That’s really the simplest answer. They believe because they know he is real and fear Him but they don’t “believe” on Him for their salvation and eternal life.
@@AshtasticAcrobat so do you agree that James is contrasting two types of belief? One type that is non-salvific, the kind the demons have. One type that is salvific, the type that produces works. Again, I don’t see how affirming this leads to works based salvation.
My doubt is, is it the flesh of the believers apostasying, meaning they don’t really mean to reject Jesus. Cause as an i.e. when the mark of the beast narrative takes place, aren’t they susceptible to getting it? Since obviously you know all who take it are hellbound.
This channel teaches anyone and everyone that makes a profession of faith is saved, even if they renounce the faith and walk in darkness. This is the opposite side of the error as lordship salvation. They do not rightly divide and give people false assurance. Welcome to the south ;)
@@Rob-ov6es Bingo. It's like they don't seem to grasp the doctrine of regeneration and preach decisionism. As long as you at one point made a decision for Christ your good!
It is difficult to judge a person if he truly believes in the Lord Jesus or not, usually, we look at his fruit or lifestyle but only God knows his heart so if he believes in the Lord Jesus who redeemed his sin he is save and a person indwelt by the Holy Spirit or Spirit of Christ and speak with the help of God's Spirit will not say that Christ is cursed but if he is a true believer and this is the case, the Holy Spirit will convicts him. 1 Corinthians 12:3 So I tell you that no one who is speaking with the help of God’s Spirit says, “Jesus be cursed.” And no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” without the help of the Holy Spirit.
So a person who is saved ends up in apostasy, worshipping of satan rejecting all that he had previously believed and dying in unbelief will still go to be with the Lord ? I'm not sure about that.
@@pastorernestalbuquerque4770 We're saved and sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption, or God is a liar. It's hard to believe for me, too. I'm horribly sinful I can't stand it, I'm broken beyond repair it feels like, but the abundant mercy of God and His faithfulness is all I have to rely on. If He says we're saved and sealed, then we are.
In a world full of empty promises it's hard to believe anyone or anything but the Word of God is eternal and everlasting and righteous and perfectly true. Remember God is the Word and the Word is God. Enough said!
Then you believe that salvation is in what you do or don't do. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Did you apostatize? These verses say not of yourself. Do you now worship Satan? These verses say not of yourself. Do you reject everything you have believed? These verses say not of yourself.
Everyone please this pastor is teaching relationship with Jesus Christ. It’s all about Grace, Grace is love and more and more abundance of love!!! More than you can imagine!!!
What makes you think that hes teaching anything but by Grace you are saved through faith? That's exactly what he teaches. Never once does he say you must have a relationship with Jesus to receive the GIFT of salvation. You receive the GIFT of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.
Listen to what he's actually saying. What he's saying is that no relationship is required. You can be a Satan worshiper and be saved. You can hate Christ a d be saved. Listen to his words.
Does 1 Corinthians say when the gifts will end? So do you not pray for ppl to be healed? I agree selling tickets is crazy but I’ve seen ppl from my non denominational church healed through prayer
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? DO NOT BE DECEIVED. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. Paul is clearly warning sanctified members of the church not to be deceived. If you practice these things, you will not inherit the Kingdom of God. To claim that someone can be saved and turn to satanism and God is still gonna say "well done good and faithful servant. Enter into the joy of the Lord" is a lie from the enemy. Read the parable of the wicked servant and the parable of the 10 virgins. The way is narrow and there are few who find it. I don't think worshiping satan is on the narrow road
The problem I have with the OSAS crowd is that they always say “the person was never saved in the first place”. Does it state anywhere in the Bible that saved people no longer have free will?
1 john 3:9 says a person cannot continue to live in sin we are BORN AGAIN in him a new creation wit a new nature how could a new creation live like the old man. Roman 6 and ephesians 4 24 which tells us who we are in christ
you can depart from the faith. 1 timothy 4:1, Hebrews 6:4-6. remember, if you deny Christ before men Christ will deny you before the father Mat 10:43. you can also be blotted out of the lambs book of life Revelation 3:5
Is it possible, that those who claim to be believers in Christ, but don't keep His commandments, nor feel His word has authority over their lives, are they really saved? I know there is no sinless perfection, but a direction we should be walking in. How do we know the difference between saved and self-deceived (unsaved)?
Concerning the complete cessation of sin, yeah, the scripture exhaustively teaches believers can and must completely cease from sin. It communicates that idea many completely directly times and many many more times in less direct ways. Here's a few of the most clear verses are 2 Cor 10: 3-6; 1 Peter 4: 1-2; 2 Peter 1: 10; 1 John 3: 6, 3: 9, 5: 18;
The scriptures that may SEEM to teach sin is inevitable have good explanations. For example, Romans 3 is likely referring to earthly fleshly men but believers are heavenly and born of Gd. They do not live(walk) according to their flesh but according to the Spirit. It quotes Psalm 14 which contrasts heavenly Gd with earthly fleshly men.
@@gregorylatta8159 What about trusting in Js crucifixion and resurrection? If you've read the abundance of scripture then you'd know that Gd doesn't "forgive" anyone the same way humans forgive. He's the Truth itself and the arbiter and substrate of all reality. He can't just pretend believers are innocent so he recreates the believer as a second separate individual. The old man bears all the guilt while the new man is completely innocent. If anyone is born of Gd then it's impossible for them to sin so if they should sin then they've abandoned their new man and re-become their old man who isn't sealed nor saved.
Jesse and Trent. Please check into Johnathan Kleck. He says he's the angel of the church of Philadelphia and that we are all fallen angels and everyone born is a fallen angel. And that in Genesis 1 that satan created the serpent race. He says that God didn't make man until Genesis 2 so the serpent race was made first. He used to teach way differently, but now his teachings have become something else. He never really says how to get saved. The only thing he says is that we have to be turned up. He talks a lot about himself and how he can heal people and that God speaks to him. And I'm not saying that he can't do those things. Something doesn't feel right about what he's teaching, and he has a lot of followers. People from his group has been commenting in the comment section here.
Did you really say you don't have to love the Lord to go to heaven. Love the Lord your God with all your heart,soul,mind. Love your neighbor, guess you don't have to manifest that fruit either? What about patience, kindness, gentleness, none of these are fruit of believing?
There's no such thing as lordship salvation shouldn't add words to the Bible make things up as you go!!! If you don't understand the Bible there's no point on preaching cuz now you're getting it to deception yes you have to have faith and believe course everybody knows that what follows faith and belief is obedience you're going to want to do the will of God you're going to love him and you're going to follow his commands but you can only do these things once you believe and have faith these things will follow !!! And if you don't have the desire to do these things and you don't want to it's because you don't have the faith means you do not have the desire to do the Lord asks from you which means without the faith and believe you're not saved!!! this is not rocket science
So you first have to explain the parable of the 10 virgins before you adhere to once saved always saved Because obviously five of them did not make it to heaven Then, of course, you have the parable of the seeds that were sewn, and most of them didn’t make it either And you have the famous passage that the Lord said part from me, you worker of iniquity I never knew you There are so many other examples that you would have to be blind, not to see them But of course, some people are blind, even though they say they see
You do realize you don't make sense right be saved you need to believe!!! Is the Bible right or is the Bible wrong? So if you do believe you would love him and keep his Commandments and you will obey him!! Now if you don't believe you will disobey him and you will not keep the Commandments!!! Now let's do some grade 1 math you need to believe in him to be saved so if you do not love him and you do not obey him and you do not keep his commands this means you don't love him which means you're not saved!!! You don't need it to be a pastor to figure this one out I told you clearly people don't want to let go of their sin don't want to be accountable today that's the major problem!!!!
If a newly born again believer worshipped satan will he still go to heaven? My answer is no, because that only proves that his faith is fake and he is not truly saved, because if he is truly saved, his tendency is to bear fruits of the spirit instead of worshipping satan...
Holy cow dude! John 14:23 say "Jesus replied, 'Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching." So, you're saying someone can believe in Jesus and not love him? That's exactly what James is talking about when he says, "Even the demons believe---and shudder." Do you think Satan believes in Jesus? If what Jesus says here in John 14 is true, then the opposite also applies. If you DO NOT love Him then the Father and He WILL NOT come into them and make a home in them. If you hate Jesus and are not obedient, He is not in you (John 15, 1 John 2:4-5, 1 John 3:6-10). Such people do not abide in God and He does not abide in Him. (Side note: PLEASE stop using the KJV. It's not a better translation. In fact, it's weaker than the ESV You also just totally distort your reference to 1 John 3:9. Yes, it says, “No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.” But, did you even consider what comes right before and after that line? “8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work…10This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.” So, the one who does what is sinful is of the devil. They don’t belong to God. One who belongs to God cannot continue in those sins (or go to them later in life). This is really simple stuff. It’s not hard to understand what John is saying here. Your butchering of scripture is so bad it makes me think you’re intentionally deceiving. (Side note: PLEASE stop using the KJV. It's not a better translation. In fact, it's weaker than the ESV or NASB--it uses less manuscript copies and ones that are much older, rather than the earliest. Having the Word put in 16th century English is just unnecessarily difficult. That Hebrews passage is almost unintelligible in the KJV. Why do it?)
@@Andrewelite I don't think so. Jesse distorts clear teaching in the Bible. Look at Matthew 24:10-14. Many fall away from the faith. Who is saved? Those who endure to the end. That's check mate brother.
I agree to a certain extent about the KJV but I use the NKJV and it is updated and so much easier to understand. I also cross check some things with the other versions. I notice that all these free grace folks use the KJV. The KJ is full of errors which have been corrected in the NKJ. I Don't get why these guys are stuck on the old KJ. Hey guys, nobody talks like that anymore!
I don’t get it. You said 1 Cor 13 clearly teaches that the gifts ceased. Then you read some verses that show that love is the highest virtue and then stopped and the show was over. You proved nothing that says the gifts would fall away in the early Church. Plus you said charismatics “worship” signs. This is a lie and slander. I was in a very balanced charismatic church in the 80’s for 7 years. Nobody worshipped signs. The pastor said often that the evidence of being filled with the Spirit was not tongues but a changed life. A fruit filled life. Also- in answering the question about a believer going into satanic worship you read from Hebrews 10- but said nothing about the many passages throughout the New Testament about spots and blemishes who feast with us. Goats who grow up with the sheep or weeds that grow up with the fruit I think it was- that we should not attempt to weed out because we might pull up the fruit - but let God do that at the end of the age. I believe in eternal security as well - but don’t you believe there’re such a thing as a false convert? Someone who says all the right words but their faith is not genuine or authentic?
His point was that love is more important than the gifts. The completed scripture is the more direct answer as to why we believe they ceased. We do not have your similar experience, but we must go off of our own. Fruit is a sign of Spirit FILLED, but it is not the sign of the Spirit SEAL. You get sealed by the Spirit when you believe, but you are filled (yielded) with the Spirit when you obey. If you had a proper experience with sound doctrine in your charismatic church, then we have no issue. Sure, we won't broad brush that. They are not a believer (convert if you desire) if they never believed in Christ. If there was a singular second of time in which they believed in Christ a Savior, then they have eternal security. - Trent
I'm sorry brother, but if you let scripture interpret scripture, then you cannot come to this conclusion. You keep on saying that this is what the bible says, but it is not everthing it says on the issue. If you turn from GOD, he allows you to do so. Therefore there is no more forgiveness for that person. Just like Calvinism, you take certain scriptures to an extreme, perverting GOD'S word.
That was written to Hebrew believers who were going to go back to animal sacrifices after coming to believe in Christ as the ultimate and real sacrifice, not the former animal sacrifices which were a 'shadow' of things to come. The point was if they turned from Jesus sacrifice back to animal sacrifice their was no forgiveness of sin in animal sacrifices once they came to the knowledge of Christ. The earlier verses are talking about animal sacrifices.
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1. John 14:23 and Obedience: //To believe in Jesus Christ is to accept His claims, specifically that He is the Son of God, the remission for sin, and to affirm that belief. Salvation is by believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, shed His blood to pay for our sin, was buried, and rose again. Service and obedience are separate matters for disciples.// While it's true that salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), your interpretation creates an unnecessary dichotomy between faith and obedience. John 14:23 clearly connects love for Jesus with obedience to His commands. This isn't about earning salvation but about the transformative effect of genuine faith. As James 2:17 states, "faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." True faith results in a desire to obey Christ, reflecting a heart changed by the Holy Spirit. Obedience to Christ's commands is a natural outflow of genuine faith and love for Him. While salvation is by faith alone, a true believer will demonstrate their faith through their actions (James 2:18). John 14:23 emphasizes that obedience is evidence of our love for Christ, not a condition for salvation. 2. Rejection of Christ and Consequences: //This passage suggests a loss of reward or opportunities, severe discipline, or even being taken home prematurely. Despite such rejection, the new nature in believers remains sinless, as stated in 1 John 3:9, and they will still inherit eternal life.// The notion that a true believer can completely turn to satanic worship and still be guaranteed salvation undermines the transformative power of regeneration. Hebrews 10:26-31 warns of the severe consequences for those who "deliberately keep on sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth." This isn't just about losing rewards; it's about the peril of apostasy, indicating that such a person never truly belonged to Christ (1 John 2:19). True believers are secure in Christ (John 10:28-29), but a complete and willful turn to satanic worship suggests a false conversion. The new nature in Christ leads to holiness (2 Corinthians 5:17), and persistent, unrepentant sin indicates a lack of genuine faith (1 John 3:6). 3. Charismatic Movements and Spiritual Gifts: //While denominations may differ, my primary affiliation is to the word of God. The cessation of spiritual gifts, as described in 1 Corinthians 13, highlights that love is paramount.// 1 Corinthians 13:8-10 does mention the ceasing of certain gifts, and it indicates that these gifts will cease "when the perfect comes." The "perfect" here is often understood to mean the completion of the New Testament canon. Once the full revelation of Scripture was available, the foundational gifts, such as prophecy and tongues, were no longer necessary. The focus shifts to love, which endures forever and is the ultimate expression of Christian maturity. Spiritual gifts such as tongues and prophecy were foundational for the early church but ceased with the completion of the New Testament canon. The enduring principle is love, which remains the greatest and most essential gift (1 Corinthians 13:13). This view emphasizes the sufficiency of Scripture for guiding the church in all matters of faith and practice (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
@@Andrewelite I couldn't stand watching the whole video, but when I heard that you don't have to love God, and you could turn from Him and worship Satan and still be saved, that was enough, that man is a deceiver.
@@Andrewelite Saving faith produces actions of love towards Him; doing the things that please Him, in Spirit and in truth. I'm troubled by the osas video makers being more concerned with getting clicks on their videos, then the souls of men. Take some time away from your video games to read your Bible daily and ask Jesus for wisdom, only then you'd have discernment to reject the deceivers.
Amen Brother ❤ Psalm 27
King James Version
27 The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?
Bless Everyone In Jesus Name ❤
And if he quits being your light and your salvation? are you still saved?
@DannyLoyd He will never quit being our Light and Salvation.
- Trent
@@BibleLine even if have an evil and unbelieving heart that cause you to fall away from the living God? Even if you have been severed from Christ and have fallen from grace? Even if you have departed from the faith and give heed to doctrine of demons? Even if you walk in darkness, walk after the flesh, and do not want hi to be your light or salvation, unbelief?
So, according to you, I can have an evil and unbelieving heart and fall away from the living God, I can be severed from Christ and fall from grace and i Can depart from the faith and give heed to doctrine of demons and I can walk in darkness, walk after the flesh, commit adultery, fornication, even murder, never ever repent or confess my sins.....and the Good Lord will still be your light and Salvation, correct?
Truly doctrine of demons.......
You would be saved because you believed in Christ. Your salvation does not hang in the balance because of sin or works. It’s whether you believed in the Son or not - 1 John 5:10-13.
Grace teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts. Have you read this exhortation to Titus?
- Trent
@@BibleLine So, an unbeliever will have eternal life, and if you do not believe, according to 1 John 5:10 "He who does not believe God has made him a liar...". So, a believer can become an unbeliever and make God a liar, and he will still be saved.....
1 John 3:15 " Any one who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him"....
Anyways, it is apparent that you "believe" for about three seconds and then there is nothing else in the bible that you have to do. You have said that then you can have an evil and unbelieving heart that makes YOU FALL AWAY FROM THE LIVING GOD, and you can give heed to doctrine of demons, walk in darkness, walk after the flesh, commit adultery, fornication and even murder, never repent or confess your sins, and heaven will be your home.......Truly doctrine of demons
We are saved by faith, an obedient faith, not a dead faith and we become children of God by faith when we are baptized into Christ, when we put Christ on, Gal 3:26-27....
I actually walked this journey. I once was a person who believed in the Lord and professed my love for Him as a child and then got into new age/demonic teachings for 15 years and became a psychic medium/astrologer. I got so deep to the point where I no longer believed Jesus was a real person. I recently came back to Christ 9 months ago after having a person encounter with Jesus in my apartment and got baptized a month later. So I truly believe it is Gods will not to loose a single one. ❤
Pray for my son. He was raised ifb and now 35 years later he's all over the place and looking into catholic tradition. He still insists he believes on the Lord. Thank you brother
1 John 2:9 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
Well said and done pastor Jesse. Thank you and God bless you Jesse and your family. Amen hallelujah. Praise the Lord amen.🌄🌅👼🌈☀️🙏🙌👍😀😊🏠
A very good answering to the 3rd question. That charismatics fail to see it is not signs that do anything, but charity, and giving the gospel thats important. The healing of the inside is that very miracle they fail to see. When a person believes in the Son of God for the 1st time, thats the healing that counts.
So ridiculous..then the gifts of healing..all the miracles recorded cinema the Bible...eh..no big deal..how silly
Amen ,teach and preach the perfect Word of God! Clear Gospel message thank you much and keep true to God's truth / Word 🙏🙏👍👍😃😃
If they are truly saved (Baptized with The Holy Spirt) they will not depart from the faith.
“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”
1 John 2:19
Jesus Christ can not and will NOT EVER,,, un,, REDEEM ANY SINNER That He ,,HAS,,, REDEEMED.
2 Timothy 2:13 "If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
Romans 8:14 says:
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
It does not say "but if you turn your back on God and turn to worship satan, you are still God's son."
And if you quit being Led by the Spirit of God? but instead the flesh?
Question: in 2:50 you said that you don't have to love God to get to heaven, but then 1 Corinthians 16:22 says that if anyone does not love the Lord, let that person be accursed. Even in the Greek the same word that was used in Galatians 1:8-9, anathema, was also used for this specific verse. So how can a person who claims to believe in God not love the Lord while the bible says those who don't are basically damned?
That's right
I appreciate your videos. Thank you. Please always stay in the Word!!!!!!
Your teaching is brilliant. Thank you
Yes no where does it say we must love God to get to heaven. Amazing!
So, we can hate God and go to heaven? When you stand before him, you can tell him that you do not love him........
@@DannyLoyd you have to believe the gospel first
Do you understand the gospel? I have a gospel video on my channel for you to watch and understand the believe the gospel
When you believe in Christ, you receive a new birth (born again), but you still have your old sinful birth too (flesh). The old birth hates God. He will die.
The new birth abides in Christ continually, and he loves God. This is why the choice is up to us whether we walk in the Spirit or walk in the flesh.
Therefore, can the believer choose to hate God and still end up in heaven? Yes, but only his new nature will go to heaven. The old birth will die, and we will receive new bodies in heaven. 1 Cor. 15:50-54
- Trent
@@BibleLine amen
God bless 🔥🔥🔥
Heb 3:12 " Take care, brethren, lest there be in any of you an EVIL, UNBELIEVING HEART, leading you to fall away from the living God".
1 Timothy 4:1 " Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times SOME WILL DEPART FROM THE FAITH by giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrine of demons".
Gal 5:4 " You are severed from Christ......you have fallen away from grace"
2 Peter 2:14 " They have eyes full of adultery, insatiable for sin....they have hearts trained in greed. Accursed children! Forsaking the right way they have gone astray, they have followed the way of Balaam...."
Rev 2:10 " Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life"......
So, according to BibleLine, you can have an evil and unbelieving heart that leads you to fall away from the living God, you can depart from the faith and give heed to doctrine of demons and you can be severed from Christ and fall from grace and you can forsake the right way, AND YOU WILL STILL BE SAVED.....
You do not have to WALK IN THE LIGHT, 1 John 1:7 or walk after the Spirit, Romans 8 or obey the Lord's commands 1 John 2:4 but you can walk in darkness, after the flesh, commit adultery, fornication and even murder, and even disobey the Lord's commands, and heaven will be your home.
Ezekiel 18:21-32 ESV
[21] “But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. [22] None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live. [23] Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? [24] But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die. [25] “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way not just? Is it not your ways that are not just? [26] When a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice, he shall die for it; for the injustice that he has done he shall die. [27] Again, when a wicked person turns away from the wickedness he has committed and does what is just and right, he shall save his life. [28] Because he considered and turned away from all the transgressions that he had committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. [29] Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ O house of Israel, are my ways not just? Is it not your ways that are not just? [30] “Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, declares the Lord God. Repent and turn from all your transgressions, lest iniquity be your ruin. [31] Cast away from you all the transgressions that you have committed, and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit! Why will you die, O house of Israel? [32] For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Lord God; so turn, and live.”
He said it! Lol you don't have to love the Lord to get to heaven. So many people's heads are exploding right now.
Hebrews 5:9 Jesus is the Author of Eternal salvation unto all those that obey him.
Define obedience.
@@gregorylatta8159 Whatever Jesus commanded. While on earth or after He left the earth and spoke through the Holy Spirit. In the last Chapter of Matthew Jesus tells the Apostles teach all Nations to observe all things whatsoever he commanded them. IT WAS NOT FAITH ONLY that he commanded. He Also commanded many other things just read Matthew Chapter 5-7. And there is more than that in the scriptures!
TO OBEY JESUS CHRIST IS TO ,,,,,BELIEVE ,,,,,HIM
@@gregorylatta8159 Believing JESUS CHRIST ONLY PERIOD
READ John Ch 3 vs 16 What is reqwiried by JESUS Christ for salvation ?PLEASE TELL EVERY ONE
Thanks, Pastor.
I think it is interesting you talk about tongues because I drove past a Baptist church and come to the realization about tongues today not being the same as in the bible
You cannot lose salvation, but you can be disciplined and lose reward.
We also have to understand that people are judging certain sin (apostasy) as worse than other sin (ie. a white lie), and insist that salvation hinges upon whether or not we engage in certain sins. All sin is unrighteous to God.
All sin is unrighteousness, but there’s no way all sins are equal.
@@rdogshowin the eyes of man sins are not equal but God will judge righteously.
@@Ezekio3160 it’s very clear that there are sins worse than others. I feel some Christians just use the “all sins are equal” argument to make themselves more comfortable in their sin.
Then explain what Jesus is talking about in Matthew 24:10-13? This is also found in 2 Thess 2:3 (the Great Apostasy), and many other places.
@@rdogshow No, we judge certain sins according to their human impact, and enact laws to judge them accordingly. The whole point of sin is understanding that we are no better (nor worse) than the unbeliever nor the serial murderer due to our sin, because all sin is unrighteousness to God.
One of the easiest questions ever to answer. No, of course they are not still saved if they turn away from Christ to Satan.
What ? So I guess you don't understand Romans 8:33-39 huh?
@@Jesussaves.7777 Yes, Sir, I understand those verses along with many other verses which helps me to understand those verses. Nothing can separate those who love God because those who love God will obey God and ask for forgiveness when they sin. Jesus made it plain that those who love Him will obey Him and those who don't, won't. Those who depart from God no longer love Him. The promise is made to those who love God, not to those who don't or who no longer love Him. "All we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose." Not to those who are rebellious against God and who don't love Him. Don't just read that passage. Read the whole Bible. Start with the book of John. Jesus said His sheep know His voice and they follow Him.
Romans 8:28
[28]And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Understanding this verse is necessary in understanding the rest of the chapter.
I don't believe anyone who is truly born again can loose or give up their eternal life, your sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. But if you believe in Jesus you Live Him
The second questions answer is why im not exactly free grace. I have an issue with someone in satan worship or witchcraft and we still say they might be saved. I think they have to be witness to. My sister is involved in evil things. I dont think she is saved. Would you guys she professed faith as a kid.
OSAS or as you put it "Eternal Life" is conditional.
It is like a warranty. You are protected as long as you do not violate the conditions of the warranty. Or in this case you have eternal life as long as you don't violate the condition. And that condition is you must maintain your faith.
You are saved by faith you must maintain it. All arguments in favor of "eternal life" have the implication of being on the condition of maintaining your faith. Several verses come to mind.
1Cor 15:2. Col. 1:21-23. 2Tim 2:11-13, Heb.3:6. & Heb.3:14
Amen!!
Paul was clearly referring to himself in the present tense in Romans 7 14-25. No reputable biblical scholar says otherwise.
The difference between the Israelites in the OT and believers in the NT, is the OT Israelites were not sealed with the Holy Spirit. And because the Sprite of Christ is in us, we do not willfully or rejoice to commit sin as they did. Do we still sin? Yes we do….because Paul talks about the “Body of death” we carry in Romans 7:24. He is speaking to Roman believers and they understood what he meant when he said that. For the crime of murder, the Romans would tie the dead corpse to the murderer ( their victim) and they would live out the rest of their sentence that way as the dead flesh from the body would rot into the person carried it until they died. We will continue to sin, not willingly, because of our dead flesh. Which is why John said if anyone sins, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
Fellow fundamental baptist here. I’ve seen a few of your videos about what I think you would call “free grace” theology and “lordship salvation.” Id like to ask you one question, and it’s not gotcha, I’m just genuinely interested in your answer.
What differentiates the belief that the devils have in Jesus from the belief that Christians have in Jesus?
I think this answer will really get to the heart of the issue.
James 2:19 has a context that is very important.
The demons know they cannot be saved, and they know their destiny. They “tremble” because they know the power of Christ. The point of that verse is not salvific, but it is to point to the fact that the demons are busy in light of their coming judgment (2:12-14)
Believers are saved because they believed in Christ for the full payment of their sins. Nothing more, nothing less.
- Trent
@@BibleLine you see I think it’s a bit more simple than that. It seems like James is clearly trying to teach us about what living faith looks like. These demons believe intellectually; they believe the correct facts about God. But that clearly is not enough for salvation. What living faith, or saving faith, looks like is a faith that produces works.
James saying that works are necessary in an indicative sense is not the same thing as someone saying that works are necessary in an initiative sense. These works indicate that we are saved, but the works do not initiate our salvation. They especially indicate that we are saved to other men, because they cannot see our hearts. But it also provides assurance to believers because they can see the work of the Holy Spirit in their lives.
I guess I just don’t see the danger of affirming this. Seems pretty simple and straightforward.
Jesus didn’t come to save demons, he came to save us. That’s really the simplest answer. They believe because they know he is real and fear Him but they don’t “believe” on Him for their salvation and eternal life.
@@AshtasticAcrobat so do you agree that James is contrasting two types of belief? One type that is non-salvific, the kind the demons have. One type that is salvific, the type that produces works.
Again, I don’t see how affirming this leads to works based salvation.
There’s a difference between believing God exist and having faith in God.
My doubt is, is it the flesh of the believers apostasying, meaning they don’t really mean to reject Jesus. Cause as an i.e. when the mark of the beast narrative takes place, aren’t they susceptible to getting it? Since obviously you know all who take it are hellbound.
Jesse and Treny any other pastor/teacher, please look at this video about the hypcrocy about the Skofield Bible:
Was it possible for Jesus to shape shift?
I do not know of any evidence in the Bible that supports this.
- Trent
In my opinion, anyone who is TRULY saved would never go and follow satan intentionally. It’s just not possible.
This channel teaches anyone and everyone that makes a profession of faith is saved, even if they renounce the faith and walk in darkness. This is the opposite side of the error as lordship salvation. They do not rightly divide and give people false assurance. Welcome to the south ;)
This is the whole problem with free grace theology, it carries it to absurd extremes.
@@Rob-ov6es Bingo. It's like they don't seem to grasp the doctrine of regeneration and preach decisionism. As long as you at one point made a decision for Christ your good!
It is difficult to judge a person if he truly believes in the Lord Jesus or not, usually, we look at his fruit or lifestyle but only God knows his heart so if he believes in the Lord Jesus who redeemed his sin he is save and a person indwelt by the Holy Spirit or Spirit of Christ and speak with the help of God's Spirit will not say that Christ is cursed but if he is a true believer and this is the case, the Holy Spirit will convicts him.
1 Corinthians 12:3
So I tell you that no one who is speaking with the help of God’s Spirit says, “Jesus be cursed.” And no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” without the help of the Holy Spirit.
Do you know of any doctrinally sound churches in the UK?
So a person who is saved ends up in apostasy, worshipping of satan rejecting all that he had previously believed and dying in unbelief will still go to be with the Lord ?
I'm not sure about that.
But I do enjoy your content. God bless.
@@pastorernestalbuquerque4770 We're saved and sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption, or God is a liar.
It's hard to believe for me, too. I'm horribly sinful I can't stand it, I'm broken beyond repair it feels like, but the abundant mercy of God and His faithfulness is all I have to rely on. If He says we're saved and sealed, then we are.
In a world full of empty promises it's hard to believe anyone or anything but the Word of God is eternal and everlasting and righteous and perfectly true. Remember God is the Word and the Word is God. Enough said!
If he believed the gospel then yes. It's a promise of God and our God can not lie. Everlasting means everlasting.
Then you believe that salvation is in what you do or don't do. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Did you apostatize? These verses say not of yourself. Do you now worship Satan? These verses say not of yourself. Do you reject everything you have believed? These verses say not of yourself.
John 14:23 is referring to discipleship not salvation
Air tight theology!
Wouldn't worshipping satan be blaspheming the Holy Spirit?
Can you explain 1 Corinthians 15 1-2
Everyone please this pastor is teaching relationship with Jesus Christ. It’s all about Grace, Grace is love and more and more abundance of love!!! More than you can imagine!!!
What makes you think that hes teaching anything but by Grace you are saved through faith? That's exactly what he teaches. Never once does he say you must have a relationship with Jesus to receive the GIFT of salvation. You receive the GIFT of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.
You may want to go through more of his videos first, he doesn’t believe in works/relationship with God to get you saved
We preach Christ and him crucified.
- Trent
Listen to what he's actually saying. What he's saying is that no relationship is required. You can be a Satan worshiper and be saved. You can hate Christ a d be saved. Listen to his words.
Does 1 Corinthians say when the gifts will end? So do you not pray for ppl to be healed? I agree selling tickets is crazy but I’ve seen ppl from my non denominational church healed through prayer
Ezekiel 36:26-27.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? DO NOT BE DECEIVED. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
Paul is clearly warning sanctified members of the church not to be deceived. If you practice these things, you will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
To claim that someone can be saved and turn to satanism and God is still gonna say "well done good and faithful servant. Enter into the joy of the Lord" is a lie from the enemy. Read the parable of the wicked servant and the parable of the 10 virgins.
The way is narrow and there are few who find it. I don't think worshiping satan is on the narrow road
Apostacy is defined as defection from the Truth and the Truth is the Law of Moses.
The problem I have with the OSAS crowd is that they always say “the person was never saved in the first place”. Does it state anywhere in the Bible that saved people no longer have free will?
That isn't necessarily what we believe. They very well might be saved. We do not know when they may have believed the gospel.
- Trent
@@BibleLine personally I don’t believe in OSAS. I wish the doctrine was true. I believe the parable of the lost son shows we can lose salvation.
Will Jesus Christ EVER ,,,, UN ...REDEEM HIS OWN ?
1 john 3:9 says a person cannot continue to live in sin we are BORN AGAIN in him a new creation wit a new nature how could a new creation live like the old man. Roman 6 and ephesians 4 24 which tells us who we are in christ
@@sonofglory7029Romans 7 14-25.
you can depart from the faith. 1 timothy 4:1, Hebrews 6:4-6. remember, if you deny Christ before men Christ will deny you before the father Mat 10:43. you can also be blotted out of the lambs book of life Revelation 3:5
Is it possible, that those who claim to be believers in Christ, but don't keep His commandments, nor feel His word has authority over their lives, are they really saved? I know there is no sinless perfection, but a direction we should be walking in. How do we know the difference between saved and self-deceived (unsaved)?
Concerning the complete cessation of sin, yeah, the scripture exhaustively teaches believers can and must completely cease from sin. It communicates that idea many completely directly times and many many more times in less direct ways. Here's a few of the most clear verses are 2 Cor 10: 3-6; 1 Peter 4: 1-2; 2 Peter 1: 10; 1 John 3: 6, 3: 9, 5: 18;
The scriptures that may SEEM to teach sin is inevitable have good explanations. For example, Romans 3 is likely referring to earthly fleshly men but believers are heavenly and born of Gd. They do not live(walk) according to their flesh but according to the Spirit. It quotes Psalm 14 which contrasts heavenly Gd with earthly fleshly men.
If you trust in anything or anyone other than Jesus you are not saved.
@@gregorylatta8159 Thank you far too many people in the comment sections LOVE to confuse discipleship with salvation
@@gregorylatta8159
What about trusting in Js crucifixion and resurrection? If you've read the abundance of scripture then you'd know that Gd doesn't "forgive" anyone the same way humans forgive. He's the Truth itself and the arbiter and substrate of all reality. He can't just pretend believers are innocent so he recreates the believer as a second separate individual. The old man bears all the guilt while the new man is completely innocent. If anyone is born of Gd then it's impossible for them to sin so if they should sin then they've abandoned their new man and re-become their old man who isn't sealed nor saved.
Jesse and Trent. Please check into Johnathan Kleck. He says he's the angel of the church of Philadelphia and that we are all fallen angels and everyone born is a fallen angel. And that in Genesis 1 that satan created the serpent race. He says that God didn't make man until Genesis 2 so the serpent race was made first. He used to teach way differently, but now his teachings have become something else. He never really says how to get saved. The only thing he says is that we have to be turned up. He talks a lot about himself and how he can heal people and that God speaks to him. And I'm not saying that he can't do those things. Something doesn't feel right about what he's teaching, and he has a lot of followers. People from his group has been commenting in the comment section here.
Yeshua says, you deny knowing me , I will deny knowing you… read your bible, Luke warm won’t make it…
I don’t think this is a case of salvation, lost think it’s a case of they went out from among us, because they were never really one of us
Did you really say you don't have to love the Lord to go to heaven. Love the Lord your God with all your heart,soul,mind. Love your neighbor, guess you don't have to manifest that fruit either? What about patience, kindness, gentleness, none of these are fruit of believing?
There's no such thing as lordship salvation shouldn't add words to the Bible make things up as you go!!! If you don't understand the Bible there's no point on preaching cuz now you're getting it to deception yes you have to have faith and believe course everybody knows that what follows faith and belief is obedience you're going to want to do the will of God you're going to love him and you're going to follow his commands but you can only do these things once you believe and have faith these things will follow !!! And if you don't have the desire to do these things and you don't want to it's because you don't have the faith means you do not have the desire to do the Lord asks from you which means without the faith and believe you're not saved!!! this is not rocket science
So you first have to explain the parable of the 10 virgins before you adhere to once saved always saved
Because obviously five of them did not make it to heaven
Then, of course, you have the parable of the seeds that were sewn, and most of them didn’t make it either
And you have the famous passage that the Lord said part from me, you worker of iniquity I never knew you
There are so many other examples that you would have to be blind, not to see them
But of course, some people are blind, even though they say they see
You do realize you don't make sense right be saved you need to believe!!! Is the Bible right or is the Bible wrong? So if you do believe you would love him and keep his Commandments and you will obey him!! Now if you don't believe you will disobey him and you will not keep the Commandments!!! Now let's do some grade 1 math you need to believe in him to be saved so if you do not love him and you do not obey him and you do not keep his commands this means you don't love him which means you're not saved!!! You don't need it to be a pastor to figure this one out I told you clearly people don't want to let go of their sin don't want to be accountable today that's the major problem!!!!
If a newly born again believer worshipped satan will he still go to heaven? My answer is no, because that only proves that his faith is fake and he is not truly saved, because if he is truly saved, his tendency is to bear fruits of the spirit instead of worshipping satan...
lol a person who worships satan can go to heaven wow
You are saved when you leave all religion.
You are saved when you believe
Christ IS BECOME of no affect unto you.
this my son was dead but is alive AGAIN.
you gave fallen FROM grace.
You can’t serve 2 masters.
Holy cow dude! John 14:23 say "Jesus replied, 'Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching." So, you're saying someone can believe in Jesus and not love him? That's exactly what James is talking about when he says, "Even the demons believe---and shudder." Do you think Satan believes in Jesus? If what Jesus says here in John 14 is true, then the opposite also applies. If you DO NOT love Him then the Father and He WILL NOT come into them and make a home in them. If you hate Jesus and are not obedient, He is not in you (John 15, 1 John 2:4-5, 1 John 3:6-10). Such people do not abide in God and He does not abide in Him. (Side note: PLEASE stop using the KJV. It's not a better translation. In fact, it's weaker than the ESV
You also just totally distort your reference to 1 John 3:9. Yes, it says, “No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.” But, did you even consider what comes right before and after that line?
“8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work…10This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.”
So, the one who does what is sinful is of the devil. They don’t belong to God. One who belongs to God cannot continue in those sins (or go to them later in life). This is really simple stuff. It’s not hard to understand what John is saying here.
Your butchering of scripture is so bad it makes me think you’re intentionally deceiving.
(Side note: PLEASE stop using the KJV. It's not a better translation. In fact, it's weaker than the ESV or NASB--it uses less manuscript copies and ones that are much older, rather than the earliest. Having the Word put in 16th century English is just unnecessarily difficult. That Hebrews passage is almost unintelligible in the KJV. Why do it?)
You are deceived
@@Andrewelite I don't think so. Jesse distorts clear teaching in the Bible. Look at Matthew 24:10-14. Many fall away from the faith. Who is saved? Those who endure to the end. That's check mate brother.
I agree to a certain extent about the KJV but I use the NKJV and it is updated and so much easier to understand. I also cross check some things with the other versions. I notice that all these free grace folks use the KJV. The KJ is full of errors which have been corrected in the NKJ. I Don't get why these guys are stuck on the old KJ. Hey guys, nobody talks like that anymore!
@waynerossiter9962 noo you are deceived very bad repent
@waynerossiter9962 think for a sec what is faith it's your belief on Jesus Christ
Many people don't believe so they don't have faith
I don’t get it. You said 1 Cor 13 clearly teaches that the gifts ceased. Then you read some verses that show that love is the highest virtue and then stopped and the show was over. You proved nothing that says the gifts would fall away in the early Church.
Plus you said charismatics “worship” signs. This is a lie and slander. I was in a very balanced charismatic church in the 80’s for 7 years. Nobody worshipped signs. The pastor said often that the evidence of being filled with the Spirit was not tongues but a changed life. A fruit filled life.
Also- in answering the question about a believer going into satanic worship you read from Hebrews 10- but said nothing about the many passages throughout the New Testament about spots and blemishes who feast with us. Goats who grow up with the sheep or weeds that grow up with the fruit I think it was- that we should not attempt to weed out because we might pull up the fruit - but let God do that at the end of the age. I believe in eternal security as well - but don’t you believe there’re such a thing as a false convert? Someone who says all the right words but their faith is not genuine or authentic?
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His point was that love is more important than the gifts. The completed scripture is the more direct answer as to why we believe they ceased.
We do not have your similar experience, but we must go off of our own. Fruit is a sign of Spirit FILLED, but it is not the sign of the Spirit SEAL. You get sealed by the Spirit when you believe, but you are filled (yielded) with the Spirit when you obey. If you had a proper experience with sound doctrine in your charismatic church, then we have no issue. Sure, we won't broad brush that.
They are not a believer (convert if you desire) if they never believed in Christ. If there was a singular second of time in which they believed in Christ a Savior, then they have eternal security.
- Trent
I'm sorry brother, but if you let scripture interpret scripture, then you cannot come to this conclusion. You keep on saying that this is what the bible says, but it is not everthing it says on the issue. If you turn from GOD, he allows you to do so. Therefore there is no more forgiveness for that person. Just like Calvinism, you take certain scriptures to an extreme, perverting GOD'S word.
You don't understand but soon you will
That comment is very vague. It sounds like you can't defend this false teaching.
That was written to Hebrew believers who were going to go back to animal sacrifices after coming to believe in Christ as the ultimate and real sacrifice, not the former animal sacrifices which were a 'shadow' of things to come. The point was if they turned from Jesus sacrifice back to animal sacrifice their was no forgiveness of sin in animal sacrifices once they came to the knowledge of Christ. The earlier verses are talking about animal sacrifices.
1. John 14:23 and Obedience:
//To believe in Jesus Christ is to accept His claims, specifically that He is the Son of God, the remission for sin, and to affirm that belief. Salvation is by believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, shed His blood to pay for our sin, was buried, and rose again. Service and obedience are separate matters for disciples.//
While it's true that salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), your interpretation creates an unnecessary dichotomy between faith and obedience. John 14:23 clearly connects love for Jesus with obedience to His commands. This isn't about earning salvation but about the transformative effect of genuine faith. As James 2:17 states, "faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." True faith results in a desire to obey Christ, reflecting a heart changed by the Holy Spirit.
Obedience to Christ's commands is a natural outflow of genuine faith and love for Him. While salvation is by faith alone, a true believer will demonstrate their faith through their actions (James 2:18). John 14:23 emphasizes that obedience is evidence of our love for Christ, not a condition for salvation.
2. Rejection of Christ and Consequences:
//This passage suggests a loss of reward or opportunities, severe discipline, or even being taken home prematurely. Despite such rejection, the new nature in believers remains sinless, as stated in 1 John 3:9, and they will still inherit eternal life.//
The notion that a true believer can completely turn to satanic worship and still be guaranteed salvation undermines the transformative power of regeneration. Hebrews 10:26-31 warns of the severe consequences for those who "deliberately keep on sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth." This isn't just about losing rewards; it's about the peril of apostasy, indicating that such a person never truly belonged to Christ (1 John 2:19).
True believers are secure in Christ (John 10:28-29), but a complete and willful turn to satanic worship suggests a false conversion. The new nature in Christ leads to holiness (2 Corinthians 5:17), and persistent, unrepentant sin indicates a lack of genuine faith (1 John 3:6).
3. Charismatic Movements and Spiritual Gifts:
//While denominations may differ, my primary affiliation is to the word of God. The cessation of spiritual gifts, as described in 1 Corinthians 13, highlights that love is paramount.//
1 Corinthians 13:8-10 does mention the ceasing of certain gifts, and it indicates that these gifts will cease "when the perfect comes." The "perfect" here is often understood to mean the completion of the New Testament canon. Once the full revelation of Scripture was available, the foundational gifts, such as prophecy and tongues, were no longer necessary. The focus shifts to love, which endures forever and is the ultimate expression of Christian maturity.
Spiritual gifts such as tongues and prophecy were foundational for the early church but ceased with the completion of the New Testament canon. The enduring principle is love, which remains the greatest and most essential gift (1 Corinthians 13:13). This view emphasizes the sufficiency of Scripture for guiding the church in all matters of faith and practice (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
This is a deceiver.
Wrong
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I couldn't stand watching the whole video, but when I heard that you don't have to love God, and you could turn from Him and worship Satan and still be saved, that was enough, that man is a deceiver.
@KingJamesOnlyPlease no it's not wrong cause it's based on faith not how good you are
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Saving faith produces actions of love towards Him; doing the things that please Him, in Spirit and in truth.
I'm troubled by the osas video makers being more concerned with getting clicks on their videos, then the souls of men.
Take some time away from your video games to read your Bible daily and ask Jesus for wisdom, only then you'd have discernment to reject the deceivers.
@@KingJamesOnlyPleaseyou just don't understand
Once saved always saved ..biggest lie ever
eternal life is forever