Neeraj chopra in a recent podcast himself said he had to shift to meat based diet when his training got tougher to maintain that fitness level. Haryana wale kuch zada hi dudh ghee ki kahani sunate hai. Udhar daaru to dabakar pite hain.
Many people in India choose to be vegetarian because they don't want to harm animals. But at the same time, they might poison a rat in their home. This is a very harsh way to deal with pests, and it shows how these issues of violence and harm towards animals are complicated and ongoing.
I agree with Sanjay and Daactar saab. The debate is neither about taste nor morality. The crucial aspect is choice, but the key factor is that the choice should be conscious. We have the ability to make conscious choices. We don't simply engage in every action we can do just because we have the capability. You don't go and slap anybody because you have hands and can easily do so. Similarly, you can engage in any nuisance or molest someone, but what prevents the majority of humans from committing such acts is not moral choice but conscious choice. विवेक >>> नैतिकता
17:20 no matter how sustainable you make meat industry, it will still be highly damaging for environment. First time I am witnessing that sanjay rajoura has poor knowledge on this subject just like rest of the guys on the podcast. Vegans have arguements that are irrefutable. I have been sanjay's fan. He is man of reason. But poor knowledge on the subject.
I am a fan of Sanjay Rajora. I am a meat eater. But if you read good arguments by good philosophers, why you should not eat meat it is very convincing.
Jeeb ke swad ke lilye,,kisi ka gla retena.. havaniyat ki heights h Pollutary farms me murge Maut se Badtar zindagi jite h…insane ke 2 min. Ke swad ke liye kisi jeev ko itna Tarpana …insaniyat nhi
The beef exports of India comprises solely of Buffalo. COW, it's CALF and COW BULL are not slaughtered or exported. So India being the largest exporter of beef is no hypocrisy. Its only the unawareness of these so called intellectuals.
@@prabhatgupta7 right right...they were the police ..and when they cut d cow nd put them in our mandirs...that was them punishing us to ever thinking of eating cows.. Got it got it.. Thnk u for explaining
My father was wrestler he quit wrestling because he couldn't afford meat and without it There is no strength as per Him at that time Army didn't support wrestlers enough also My mother used to create a ruckus whenever he used to bring Meat at home so because of My mother we became vegetarian when i grew up i started eating and my father also started eating Meat is tasty and it digests better
Another argument is about milk. Cow or buffalo they don't give us milk but rare them and take out milk. When milking is done it's painful for the animals but still we do it for our consumption.
I didn't know non-vegetarians were such patta premis... All of these arguments can be countered quite easily.. Sanjay Rajoura toh bahut science ke follower bante hai.. Zara Richard Dawkins padhlo dost.. Casteism bhi emotional need hi hai Bhai.. banjao Brahmanwadi♥️♥️
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel a lot of food supplements restrictive eating athletes take are protein products isolated from some animal products. Like fish and egg. And the part I’m from vegetarians won’t have those. They even consider onion, garlic and few daal not satwik vegetarian diet. So to imagine which supplement is strictly plant based is going to be either hard to find or very expensive.
Eating animal is not choice. It's unethical.And, before agriculture we hunted so we should continue eating meat by the same logic society was unjust earlier and we developed by that injustice( black slaves ) so we should not try to make justice in society?
Kudo to your team to see you talk on this topic. Seeing you guys give me hope for future generations. You may get a lot of angry responses from all sides but keep moving and never compromise. It's important to speak even if you are not the Expert on the topic all these people who are chastising your work are victims of conformity where they are trained to think within the box.
If it will come to survival all vegetarians will convert ? It is all about being part of food chain. Say what you want if nature made you a certain way you have follow. So the truth is humans have evolved eating meat and thats it.
Ab baat rahi Chicken ki Haryana ki. So I'll tell you my Uncle (Mr. Sher Singh Joon) he cook very best Dry chicken and he was the State champion at his time in Wrestling. Now he is Principal at Delhi Government School.😂 Ye Haryana wali baat bilkul galat hai haryana main bahut gareebi hain sir jo part Delhi se door hai wahan hum loog jate nahin aur jahan gareebi hogi wahan 🍖 Aache se khaya jata hai.
Sanjay bhai you are educated guy , FYI when animal is killed in halal way then he feels the least pain, and all the blood is drained out in seconds of the body, the Dr. guest should know that blood is the major carrier of germs , if it remain in the meat for some time the meat could be harmfull
37:00 Expected better from Doc Vatsa being a MBBS Doctor, he should have known that in case of Halal when the blood vains are cut from neck sensation of body stops but heart continues to pump so maximum of the blood is pumped out of the body which keeps the meat fresh for longer period of time as compared to Jhatka and so Halal meats are less prone to pathogenic attacks. In case of Jhatka heart stops pumping at the point of Jhatka @doc vatsa
I am a mbbs doctor..honestly no where it is written about halal and Jhatka meat😂..that halal is better or jhatka is better.. This is just a pseudoscience fact..people use half science to justify their stupidity.. No one is stopping you from eating halal..but don’t impose halal on everyone..
If you have sone authentic source of your claim..please enlighten me..please don’t send some stupid Zakir naik or some random mullah video.. I am waiting
Not at all bhai 😂😂😂😂 Ye Backhodi Science k saath nahi chalegi. I am a Teacher abhi 10th main Life process chapter hai Science ki book main usmain sab diya hua hai.
Aur veg khane ka aur ethical hone ka koi connection nhi... Hitler bhi vegetarian tha aur gandhi bhi the aur dangabaj RSS vale bhi vegetarian hote hai😅 Aur vegetarian logo ko insano ke marne se amuman problem nahi hota janwaro ke marne se hota hai😢
to make such vegetarian people understand , they should study Islam first, God created human as the best creature of all and all other animals and things to serve human beings, its not sin to to kill animals but to kill human is a sin and not allowed to eat. And we Muslims cant eat all the animals only herbivorous animal we can eat i.e. who eat only veg i.e. goat, sheep, chicken etc. and carnivorous animals we cant eat i..e those animals who eat non veg like lion, cat dog, etc.. and those animals which are useful for transportation in old times like horses are not preferred to eat Our lord have given the catalog what to eat and what not to eat
When you look at it closely, one chicken or one cow can feed many people. But if you think about the amount of vegetables a person eats, all those vegetables are grown on farms. These farms often use pesticides that can kill lots of small creatures like insects. So, in a way, someone eating non-vegetarian might actually cause fewer creatures to die than someone eating vegetarian. This also suggests that vegetarians indirectly cause harm, even if they don't mean to.
@@mansibisht8589 great point, but whats the definition of traditional, what I mean is how long back in history we need to go to define that this is traditional, every one know in early part of human history we were hunting community like rest of the world, and then farming was invented so my point is it's hard to define traditionally. Now second part of your question - pesticides were not used during farming - that some what true but we used natural pesticide which indeed was responsible for killing micro organism in millions.
This is why before sharing your opinion you should research well on that topic Now coming to the point , there is no way you can compare the amount of pesticides being used in any crop in how much area/Quantity, nor you discussed about the plants/feed stock that is grown to feed aur cattles and the amount of water that is needed in both growing crops and for cattles so you can not just determine which is better or worse and about the part that vegetarianism causes harm that is due to the capitalism and Market that forces farmers to grow crops more than required that holds same for the meat exports too so we by looking this topic through the lens of economics can never determine which is better instead we should talk about what is right
@@sxceptional Mr Upadhyay, very well said, but I think you need to follow your own advice. Topic is not about which is better veg vs non veg, it's about false pride Vegetarian people have ohhh I don't hurth any animal in my food is kill free, and second part of topic is that they discriminate people based on it. Now I know the problem is not about food habits in India, it's about caste pride. Brahmins usually discriminate against every other caste and even among themselves and food happens to be one of those reasons. Unscientific but what else can you do if everyone is practicing it. Khane mein anda chicken bakra nahi mar sakte but caste ke naam pe logo ko Roz tadpa tadpa ke maar sakte hai ....
हिंदुस्तान मे छुपे हुये वेजिटेरीन ज्यादा हैं कुछ खास कम्युनिटी के लोग ऐसे है जो कहते है यार हमारे घर मे चिकन या मटन नहीं बनता है मेरा एक दोस्त है जो जाती से वाल्मीकि या जाटव है मै उसके घर बनवाकर खा लेता हूँ कुवह ऐसे भी वेजिटेरीन है जो कहते है जो कहते है हिन्दुओ मे मै मंगलवार और सोमवार कप नहीं खाता हूँ सिक्खों मे वीरवार को नहीं खाता हूँ बाकी दिन मै खा लेता हूँ कुछ ऐसे भी लोग है यार मुझे चिकन विरयानी और मटन विरयानी बहुत पसंद है मेरे घर मे टी बनती नहीं मेरा एक दोस्त अब्दुल है मै उसके घर जाकर खा लेता हूँ बाकी दिन तो मै साग सब्जी खाता ही तीर्थ ब्रत करता हूँ गंगा नहाता हूँ पक्का सनातनी हूँ
Homo sapiens has digestive system which can digest flesh.Nervous system of plants is not so well developed as in case of animals and homo sapiens.Red meat is second largest cause of global warming.I agree with Haryanvi person.Meat eating is not only about only taste buds it is cruelty to animals and consciousness of self.I agree with Sanjay Rajoura on most of things but not on this matter.
Pulse is embryo.Why will you eat some embryo ? Milk also snatched which is meant for calves . For milk purposes , cows are impregnated back to back 5-6 times. Is it humane?😅
U can read there are lots of study that animals have emotions they can learn many things and they have love for their near ones and thay wants to exist like humans that's why thay have sex
Nice talk bro i will suggest to per scientific when slaughter is done by halal method almost all blood and toxin is coming out from the artery and no blood clotting occured. Happen inside and which is help to preserve the meat longer .
Obviously choice matters the most. Next time dont tell a molester to treat a women right because thats his choice .it is his choice to molest a women right
Bhaisab maine bio phadhi hai plant fal execess food ke ke liye banata hai or phal mei jaan nahi hoti na hai voh jeena chahta hai balki agar koi phal nahi khayega to ped phodho ke bacche nahi hoge.
This conversation about vegetarian or non vegetarian food is quite childish: I was expecting a better argument at least from Sanjay. Aur ye kehna "jeev ko nahi marna to ped paudho ko bhi mt khao" isse bada kutark nahi suna maine.
@@docvatsa okk, par is logic se to jo nonveg kha raha h wo plants aur animal dono ko marne ka jimmedar h, because aap ek bakra khao uske liye use phle 2,3 kg plants khilaya jaega. To agar aap itne plants premi ho tab to aapko aur bhi nonveg nhi khana chahiye?
@@triptisingh5516 Logic sirf itna hai ke jisey jo khana ho woh kha sakta hai. Veg ya non veg mein theek galat nahin hai... we all should not judge or stop anhone.
@@docvatsa I agree, main kisi ko rokne nhi jaungi, jisko jo khana h khaye, but i think as a human being hamari kuch responsibility h, wese bhi hmne bhut gandh macha kr rakkhi h aur life me cruelty jitna kam ho utna accha.👍
2 so called liberals mil kar ek admi ko defame kar rahe hai bina uska point sune. Agar dum hai to acharya Prashant jese kisi vyakti k sath is par debate kar k dekh lo. Aukat pata pad jayegi.. 😂
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel no I don't .. And for scientific matter many of the animals do understand human language or behavior or action but not plants....
If you don't eat vegetables thhey will die automatically because they can survive for less time.. And in case of fruit plant they want u to eat their fruit so u can throw seeds and they will grow at different place
The things u are saying about nonveg are seems okay for 1000 years old case because we were not so populated now we are at peak and we killing animals in mass which leads to lots of water waste and land waste because at the end of the animals eat grass if they eat in many kgs then after they give u some little kg of meet
Itni pyaar ki baate kr raha h ye Haryana wala. Jab inter caste marriage karne walo ki honour killing or boycott karte ho, tab kahan jaati hai tumhari morality??
भाई बिगन का तो पता नहीं क्या होता है, मगर हमारे हरियाणा में तो इन पहलवानों ने हनुमान से भी ज़्यादा हिघन करते हैं। अच्छी कुश्ती लड़ने का कारण मीट न खाना नहीं है, बल्कि हार्डवर्क होता है जो खेतों में करते हैं। ऐसे ही हरियाणा में बनिया भी हैं उनसे पहलवान नहीं होते क्यूँ क्योंकि वे मेहनत नहीं करते।
Absolutely did not expect this from Sanjay. A conversation titled Taste or Ethics actively trying to avoid discussion ethics. Especially on the topic of meat eating. Sanjay and the surgeon both are not only completely inept and unqualified to have this conversation. Given Sanjay's general aptitude, it is surprising to see such utter lack of general knowledge on the subject. Disappointing. This entire panel was extremely bad. Lost interest and respect for all of them.
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel I'm not sure I understand your suggestion to bring positivity in my life. Did you, a random internet stranger, succeed in concluding that my life has no positivity based on a comment on your video where I share my genuine thoughts? Wow, hmm. If all you want to hear are praises, you have yourself 2 options: 1. Make good, rich, thought-provoking content. 2. Be a sheep/make everyone laugh. If not, I suggest you prepare to handle well-intentioned criticism. It'll only help you improve. Anyway, I look forward to hearing more of Sanjay, and watching your other videos. My criticism was not from a place of negativity or bias. It was truly awful and painful to watch such learned men make zero sense. Also, your backhanded comment on the length of my comment was just.. it says more about you than me. It's not a crime to dislike longform writing. It was anyway, hardly a few lines. Damn. Chill brother. Thick skin. Peace.
@@vivekdhariwal6110 let me assure you that it was not a backhanded comment, apologies if it sounded so. Baaki criticism is very welcome. We will really appreciate if you could be more specific about lack of knowledge, otherwise it might come across as a 'bhadas' nikalne wala comment. I dont think anyone is 'qualified enough' on meat eating or not as it lot more than just nutrition science. We all are keen to learn from mistakes and add more value, perhaps slowly at times, but that is the intent atleast. hope to hear from you further. thanks and Take care bandhu.
Are bhai ye keh raha hai Maharashtra me pehelwan nahi hote... Are bhai kolhapur ko kushti ka ek important sthal kaha jata hai... Aur ha hariyane me kushti jab marathi log panipat gaye ladhai ladhne us waqt hariyana me kushti pohchi aur ha kolhapur ke pehlwan non veg khate hai... Sanjay bhai ne sach kaha inko lagta hai apna state hi bharat hai😅 @sanjayrajoura
Sanjay Rajoura here is crying about generalisation while in the other video he was trying to brush-off the same guy when he tried countering him on generalisation of things.
Orr aisa khn h ki haryana me meat aasaani se ni milta.....aisa konse city me h haryana kii....hum to khud haryana me rhte hain.....orrr aisa to khin b ni hain....
Khane do na jisko khana hai jo.. Rape aur murder pe to zor chalta nhi jo actually crime ghoshit hain.. Non veg ko crime bna k unke peeche pad jao..rukege tumse wo bhi nhi
Zabardasti, haryana wale, Haryana me ek caste khatik, unka profession he butcher ka raha hai. Haryana me sab zamindar nhi hote. Rahe baat wrestling ki , jab invaders aaye tab kit budgi thi thari wrestling.
I could live with just disagreeing with you guys on this one you but I think you guys have reached your limits and framed yourself in the boundaries of your own will being the god, in which case a god exists and it's you (a human) who as he can will cause extreme violence on a mass scale, and not when he needs to survive but when he chooses to please himself, which is the very definition of patriarchy , which is also the base of casteism. You guys must educate yourself more, instead of just gyan peloing with like minded people, you can start a discussion on this one with kunal kamra , he turned vegetarian fairly recently.
यार ये सक्स बिलकुल गलत बोल रहा है हरयाणा के जितने पहलवान है मीट नहीं खाते बजरंगवली के भक्त है ये बात बिलकुल गलत है मै रेलवे मे T T हूँ मेरे साथ सोनीपत पानीपत के बहुत सारे पहलवाल है जिनको मै जनता हूँ जो रेलवे मे T T है भिवानी साइड के बॉक्सर है सारे के सारे चिकन मटन खाते है एक या दो इसका अपवाद हो सकता है
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel Nah.. Food choices aren't a personal matter anymore. 26% of co2 emmisions are from slaughter house industry. Also, there is no scientific reason for eating meat. So ,Sanjay Bhai rationality ka gyaan sirf upper caste ko mat do.. Right to life is a universal right. Widen your circle of compassion. Veganism is the future.
invalid points by both sanjay and doctor...i don't want to kill someone is also a choice which shpuld be respected like you want your choices to be respected.. no need for counter argument
@@globalcitizen0 since when are the not a choice anymore? If genders can be by choice food choices should surely be. Veganism is not the only future, choice of food is.
waiting for next episode eagerly, biggest troller I will be 😈👿
Haha we can see that :) Next episode coming on Friday
aur kya, sanjay ko celebrity banane ka bahut shaunk hain na , thoda famous kar deti hun huh
Abhi to shuru bhi nahi kiya, iske khareedaron ko mere papa yaad aane lag gaye ch ch ch, kaise banega celebrity.
+ - bond or neutral
It's like upper caste brahmins justifying caste system and getting surprised if some dalit is complaining about it.
Agree
But the irony is upper class brahmins propagates vegetarianism in India. Dalits will eat whatever nutritious food they can get, if they can.
@@Msnovyfortunately the avg dalit's diet consists of maggot laden sewage soup and rotten dog/pig/cow carcass.
Neeraj chopra in a recent podcast himself said he had to shift to meat based diet when his training got tougher to maintain that fitness level. Haryana wale kuch zada hi dudh ghee ki kahani sunate hai. Udhar daaru to dabakar pite hain.
Jo daaru Pete Hain woh elite athlete Nahin bNte. Neeraj is a super star 🙂
Khashaba Jadhav, The first Individual Olympic medalist was from Maharashtra. He won Bronze medal in wrestling in Helsinki 1952.
Was he vegetarian?
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel he was from Satara and not Brahmin. I have friends from Satara who have withdrawl symptoms if they dont eat mutton.
I am a brahmin from haryana..and i love chicken, mutton
Thanks
Brilliant discussion...you just spoke my mind..great 👍
Glad to hear it!
Many people in India choose to be vegetarian because they don't want to harm animals. But at the same time, they might poison a rat in their home. This is a very harsh way to deal with pests, and it shows how these issues of violence and harm towards animals are complicated and ongoing.
Very well said
Mosquito & house fly ?😅
Self defence naam ki cheez hoti hai kuch... Chu..ye
Pahla episode hain jismein sanjay ko haste hue dekha hain, pakka foodie 😂😂😂😂
Yes indeed 😀
Dubara Kab dekhenge
Sanjay is my long lost brother 😂
In terms of thought process we are exactly the same...😊
Mêle mein bichhade the shayad 🙂
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel Duniya ka mela 😄
Meat is essentials for good health, I can't be more thankful for meat, my health good now because I started eating meat.
Thanks for sharing your perspective
I agree with Sanjay and Daactar saab. The debate is neither about taste nor morality. The crucial aspect is choice, but the key factor is that the choice should be conscious. We have the ability to make conscious choices. We don't simply engage in every action we can do just because we have the capability. You don't go and slap anybody because you have hands and can easily do so. Similarly, you can engage in any nuisance or molest someone, but what prevents the majority of humans from committing such acts is not moral choice but conscious choice.
विवेक >>> नैतिकता
Very well said Saurabh.
Very interesting 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks
At 1:30 story. It's called self respect. I like people who have boundaries and can fight for it everywhere rather than surrendering like slaves.
Best
Love u guys from Kashmir
Thank you Badrul
TIL that Haryana is on a different level!! Great podcast.. Please keep going!!
Thank you 🙏
Haha.. Haryana is a different level :) . Thanks.
Looking forward to the next episode.
Thank you 🙏
17:20 no matter how sustainable you make meat industry, it will still be highly damaging for environment. First time I am witnessing that sanjay rajoura has poor knowledge on this subject just like rest of the guys on the podcast. Vegans have arguements that are irrefutable. I have been sanjay's fan. He is man of reason. But poor knowledge on the subject.
Thanks for your feedback
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel u deleted the link i shared.
Yes overall Non Veg is not environmental friendly.
I am a fan of Sanjay Rajora.
I am a meat eater.
But if you read good arguments by good philosophers, why you should not eat meat it is very convincing.
Jeeb ke swad ke lilye,,kisi ka gla retena.. havaniyat ki heights h
Pollutary farms me murge Maut se Badtar zindagi jite h…insane ke 2 min. Ke swad ke liye kisi jeev ko itna Tarpana …insaniyat nhi
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Incredible
Thanks
This was an interesting conversation
Thank you Vijay ji, hope you are well
In india most dalits are non vegetarian but they eat only twice or three times in year due to high price of non veg...!
eating habits shud not be caste based, but an individual's choice
Haryana guy is cute for sure!😂
Sanjay Bhai, Bharat ek mauj ke baad, aapko bahut तलाश kiya, thank god ab wapas mil Gaye.. 😂😂 पेलते रहो दुनिया को🥂
Sanjay Ek Mauj :). hopefully through this channel we will keep him a regular feature for all of us to cherish.
Is bande ka ek alag universe hai jaha ye sab se bada *chaalu* hai or baaki sab isse kam...
Nice conversation🤙
Thanks
The beef exports of India comprises solely of Buffalo. COW, it's CALF and COW BULL are not slaughtered or exported.
So India being the largest exporter of beef is no hypocrisy. Its only the unawareness of these so called intellectuals.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Karni sena wale kya kar rahe the fir chori chupe
@@mukta2822 They were beating the shit out if smugglers who steal COW. And they don't do it chori chupe, they do it in broad daylight.
@@prabhatgupta7 right right...they were the police ..and when they cut d cow nd put them in our mandirs...that was them punishing us to ever thinking of eating cows..
Got it got it..
Thnk u for explaining
@@mukta2822 Yeah, keep fabricating stories in your head.
My father was wrestler he quit wrestling because he couldn't afford meat and without it There is no strength as per Him at that time Army didn't support wrestlers enough also My mother used to create a ruckus whenever he used to bring Meat at home so because of My mother we became vegetarian when i grew up i started eating and my father also started eating Meat is tasty and it digests better
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Prayash Bhai 😂
Doctor & Sanjay bhaiya ❤
Thank you :)
bina 300 gram mutton aur kaleji khae bina nind ni ati sirji
😀
Another argument is about milk. Cow or buffalo they don't give us milk but rare them and take out milk. When milking is done it's painful for the animals but still we do it for our consumption.
Thanks for sharing your perspective.
I didn't know non-vegetarians were such patta premis... All of these arguments can be countered quite easily.. Sanjay Rajoura toh bahut science ke follower bante hai.. Zara Richard Dawkins padhlo dost..
Casteism bhi emotional need hi hai Bhai.. banjao Brahmanwadi♥️♥️
Please share a few key points as counter argument, we will included then part 2 of this debate
Wrestlers take supplements even in Haryana to build muscle mass. It can’t happen without high protein intake. That protein powder is not vegetarian. 😂
How do you know the supplements they eat is not vegetarian?
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel a lot of food supplements restrictive eating athletes take are protein products isolated from some animal products. Like fish and egg. And the part I’m from vegetarians won’t have those. They even consider onion, garlic and few daal not satwik vegetarian diet. So to imagine which supplement is strictly plant based is going to be either hard to find or very expensive.
But still you have options..you can’t say that all supplements are non vegetarian..you are poor then it’s not my problem 😂
@@RahulPandey-dm3gx very true😂 I’m just biased towards non veg.
Well said @rahul
Mrs Infosys claims that she carry her own cooking vessels when she traveled abroad.because she is vegetarian.
Eating animal is not choice. It's unethical.And, before agriculture we hunted so we should continue eating meat by the same logic society was unjust earlier and we developed by that injustice( black slaves ) so we should not try to make justice in society?
Eating is a choice to a huge extent. Condescending morality is wrong IMHO. There are pros and cons on either side. No?
Sorry to say but the during Vedic period the Aryans ate eat. Even today 70 percent Indians still eat meat.
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
👌👌👌😍
As an Conservation Biologist, the biggest driver of biodiversity loss aka killing of animals is agriculture.
there you go. this is why a complete picture is important.
❤ 9:40
Kudo to your team to see you talk on this topic.
Seeing you guys give me hope for future generations.
You may get a lot of angry responses from all sides but keep moving and never compromise.
It's important to speak even if you are not the Expert on the topic all these people who are chastising your work are victims of conformity where they are trained to think within the box.
Thanks for your kind words. We agree with what you said and we will keep on talking on such topics. Thanks again
14:54 oonth ka adhaar card tha? usne usko apne bank acct se link kia tha?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Haryana ko bahut sahi troll kiya h❤❤❤on the topic of intercaste marriage and non veg food...love u sanjay
Thanks Tapas
Tapasvi Bhardwaj
I don't to be a vegan it's okay it's not compilation but depends upon u to choose but at least u can be vegetarian
u can be whatever u want to be, just dont be condescending about it.
If it will come to survival all vegetarians will convert ? It is all about being part of food chain. Say what you want if nature made you a certain way you have follow. So the truth is humans have evolved eating meat and thats it.
We sit at the top of the food chain for a reason. The least we can do is respect each other's food choices.
Acharya prashant ।चेतना।
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Ab baat rahi Chicken ki Haryana ki.
So I'll tell you my Uncle (Mr. Sher Singh Joon) he cook very best Dry chicken and he was the State champion at his time in Wrestling. Now he is Principal at Delhi Government School.😂
Ye Haryana wali baat bilkul galat hai haryana main bahut gareebi hain sir jo part Delhi se door hai wahan hum loog jate nahin aur jahan gareebi hogi wahan 🍖 Aache se khaya jata hai.
Your uncle is rightly placed to make a huge difference in this regard by educating children and their parents.
Sanjay bhai you are educated guy , FYI when animal is killed in halal way then he feels the least pain, and all the blood is drained out in seconds of the body, the Dr. guest should know that blood is the major carrier of germs , if it remain in the meat for some time the meat could be harmfull
37:00 Expected better from Doc Vatsa being a MBBS Doctor, he should have known that in case of Halal when the blood vains are cut from neck sensation of body stops but heart continues to pump so maximum of the blood is pumped out of the body which keeps the meat fresh for longer period of time as compared to Jhatka and so Halal meats are less prone to pathogenic attacks.
In case of Jhatka heart stops pumping at the point of Jhatka @doc vatsa
Please can you enlighten us on how heart stop immediately in jhatka? Is it just a popular (blind) belief or is there any scientific evidence to this?
I am a mbbs doctor..honestly no where it is written about halal and Jhatka meat😂..that halal is better or jhatka is better..
This is just a pseudoscience fact..people use half science to justify their stupidity..
No one is stopping you from eating halal..but don’t impose halal on everyone..
If you have sone authentic source of your claim..please enlighten me..please don’t send some stupid Zakir naik or some random mullah video.. I am waiting
Not at all bhai 😂😂😂😂 Ye Backhodi Science k saath nahi chalegi.
I am a Teacher abhi 10th main Life process chapter hai Science ki book main usmain sab diya hua hai.
@@devd851 Before commenting should have been better if you had read the above attached pdf
Aur veg khane ka aur ethical hone ka koi connection nhi... Hitler bhi vegetarian tha aur gandhi bhi the aur dangabaj RSS vale bhi vegetarian hote hai😅 Aur vegetarian logo ko insano ke marne se amuman problem nahi hota janwaro ke marne se hota hai😢
Well said 😀
Yeh bhi theek hai
sahi pakde hain :)
to make such vegetarian people understand , they should study Islam first, God created human as the best creature of all and all other animals and things to serve human beings, its not sin to to kill animals but to kill human is a sin and not allowed to eat.
And we Muslims cant eat all the animals only herbivorous animal we can eat i.e. who eat only veg i.e. goat, sheep, chicken etc. and carnivorous animals we cant eat i..e those animals who eat non veg like lion, cat dog, etc..
and those animals which are useful for transportation in old times like horses are not preferred to eat
Our lord have given the catalog what to eat and what not to eat
When you look at it closely, one chicken or one cow can feed many people. But if you think about the amount of vegetables a person eats, all those vegetables are grown on farms. These farms often use pesticides that can kill lots of small creatures like insects. So, in a way, someone eating non-vegetarian might actually cause fewer creatures to die than someone eating vegetarian. This also suggests that vegetarians indirectly cause harm, even if they don't mean to.
So so true
traditionally pesticides were not used...
@@mansibisht8589 great point, but whats the definition of traditional, what I mean is how long back in history we need to go to define that this is traditional, every one know in early part of human history we were hunting community like rest of the world, and then farming was invented so my point is it's hard to define traditionally. Now second part of your question - pesticides were not used during farming - that some what true but we used natural pesticide which indeed was responsible for killing micro organism in millions.
This is why before sharing your opinion you should research well on that topic
Now coming to the point , there is no way you can compare the amount of pesticides being used in any crop in how much area/Quantity, nor you discussed about the plants/feed stock that is grown to feed aur cattles and the amount of water that is needed in both growing crops and for cattles so you can not just determine which is better or worse and about the part that vegetarianism causes harm that is due to the capitalism and Market that forces farmers to grow crops more than required that holds same for the meat exports too so we by looking this topic through the lens of economics can never determine which is better instead we should talk about what is right
@@sxceptional Mr Upadhyay, very well said, but I think you need to follow your own advice.
Topic is not about which is better veg vs non veg, it's about false pride Vegetarian people have ohhh I don't hurth any animal in my food is kill free, and second part of topic is that they discriminate people based on it.
Now I know the problem is not about food habits in India, it's about caste pride. Brahmins usually discriminate against every other caste and even among themselves and food happens to be one of those reasons. Unscientific but what else can you do if everyone is practicing it.
Khane mein anda chicken bakra nahi mar sakte but caste ke naam pe logo ko Roz tadpa tadpa ke maar sakte hai ....
हिंदुस्तान मे छुपे हुये वेजिटेरीन ज्यादा हैं
कुछ खास कम्युनिटी के लोग ऐसे है जो कहते है यार हमारे घर मे चिकन या मटन नहीं बनता है
मेरा एक दोस्त है जो जाती से वाल्मीकि या जाटव है मै उसके घर बनवाकर खा लेता हूँ
कुवह ऐसे भी वेजिटेरीन है जो कहते है जो कहते है
हिन्दुओ मे मै मंगलवार और सोमवार कप नहीं खाता हूँ
सिक्खों मे वीरवार को नहीं खाता हूँ
बाकी दिन मै खा लेता हूँ
कुछ ऐसे भी लोग है यार मुझे चिकन विरयानी
और मटन विरयानी बहुत पसंद है
मेरे घर मे टी बनती नहीं
मेरा एक दोस्त अब्दुल है मै उसके घर जाकर खा लेता हूँ
बाकी दिन तो मै साग सब्जी खाता ही तीर्थ ब्रत करता हूँ गंगा नहाता हूँ पक्का सनातनी हूँ
Homo sapiens has digestive system which can digest flesh.Nervous system of plants is not so well developed as in case of animals and homo sapiens.Red meat is second largest cause of global warming.I agree with Haryanvi person.Meat eating is not only about only taste buds it is cruelty to animals and consciousness of self.I agree with Sanjay Rajoura on most of things but not on this matter.
dude wait till the acharya prashant vegan crowd see this🤣🤣🤣. Maja ayega
Bring it on bandhu.
Pulse is embryo.Why will you eat some embryo ?
Milk also snatched which is meant for calves . For milk purposes , cows are impregnated back to back 5-6 times. Is it humane?😅
Haryanvis being haryanvis wherever they go...😂😅
We need to challenge our roots, constantly while enjoying the fruits too. That's true evolution.
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel agreed 👍
U can read there are lots of study that animals have emotions they can learn many things and they have love for their near ones and thay wants to exist like humans that's why thay have sex
thats a selfish take on neglecting plants.
Nice talk bro i will suggest to per scientific when slaughter is done by halal method almost all blood and toxin is coming out from the artery and no blood clotting occured. Happen inside and which is help to preserve the meat longer .
Thanks. I guess thats a belief not a scientific fact.
Obviously choice matters the most.
Next time dont tell a molester to treat a women right because thats his choice .it is his choice to molest a women right
thanks for taking to leave a comment.
If u have any curage i can debate with u.... But doctor shab u should sell your degree
haha... we are not those who think of degrees in buying and selling terms. goodluck.
Bhaisab maine bio phadhi hai plant fal execess food ke ke liye banata hai or phal mei jaan nahi hoti na hai voh jeena chahta hai balki agar koi phal nahi khayega to ped phodho ke bacche nahi hoge.
This conversation about vegetarian or non vegetarian food is quite childish: I was expecting a better argument at least from Sanjay.
Aur ye kehna "jeev ko nahi marna to ped paudho ko bhi mt khao" isse bada kutark nahi suna maine.
Thanks for your feedback, we have a lot more episodes lined up, please stay tuned.
Jeev hatya to plants se bhi hai aur woh humein oxygen bhi dete hain. Hows is that wrong?
@@docvatsa okk, par is logic se to jo nonveg kha raha h wo plants aur animal dono ko marne ka jimmedar h, because aap ek bakra khao uske liye use phle 2,3 kg plants khilaya jaega. To agar aap itne plants premi ho tab to aapko aur bhi nonveg nhi khana chahiye?
@@triptisingh5516 Logic sirf itna hai ke jisey jo khana ho woh kha sakta hai. Veg ya non veg mein theek galat nahin hai... we all should not judge or stop anhone.
@@docvatsa I agree, main kisi ko rokne nhi jaungi, jisko jo khana h khaye, but i think as a human being hamari kuch responsibility h, wese bhi hmne bhut gandh macha kr rakkhi h aur life me cruelty jitna kam ho utna accha.👍
Haryana walon ko meat nahin khana par daliton par zulm karna hai
Ye vahi dr aviral vatsa hai kya Scotland Wale 🔥🔥
??. Tareef ki haï ya .... 🙂
The only solace vegetarians can take is that their food doesn't make a sound when it's killed.
You mean humans cannot hear that 'sound' ?
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2 so called liberals mil kar ek admi ko defame kar rahe hai bina uska point sune. Agar dum hai to acharya Prashant jese kisi vyakti k sath is par debate kar k dekh lo. Aukat pata pad jayegi.. 😂
acharyan pareshan khud non veg khata hai lol
Just because plants can't scream you vegetarians find it ethical to eat them. Wth😅
And plants make our earth habitable for all, still we eat them.
This is a good convetsation coz there r both sides..wrna maamla ek tarfa ho jata..😂
Sir i can't believe this in other video u were talking about the science now u are saying plant feel pain really!??
so, i hope u agree that plants are living beings too. so when exactly do they die after getting plucked? and why do we eat them 'alive'?
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel sir they don't have brain and any other system who communicates pain to their brain if they have
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel no I don't .. And for scientific matter many of the animals do understand human language or behavior or action but not plants....
If you don't eat vegetables thhey will die automatically because they can survive for less time.. And in case of fruit plant they want u to eat their fruit so u can throw seeds and they will grow at different place
The things u are saying about nonveg are seems okay for 1000 years old case because we were not so populated now we are at peak and we killing animals in mass which leads to lots of water waste and land waste because at the end of the animals eat grass if they eat in many kgs then after they give u some little kg of meet
Itni pyaar ki baate kr raha h ye Haryana wala. Jab inter caste marriage karne walo ki honour killing or boycott karte ho, tab kahan jaati hai tumhari morality??
insaano ki life ke parvah kum hai shayad, murgion ki jayeda.
भाई बिगन का तो पता नहीं क्या होता है, मगर हमारे हरियाणा में तो इन पहलवानों ने हनुमान से भी ज़्यादा हिघन करते हैं। अच्छी कुश्ती लड़ने का कारण मीट न खाना नहीं है, बल्कि हार्डवर्क होता है जो खेतों में करते हैं।
ऐसे ही हरियाणा में बनिया भी हैं उनसे पहलवान नहीं होते क्यूँ क्योंकि वे मेहनत नहीं करते।
hardwork wali baat to sahi hai, jati wali baat se sehmat nahin hain hum apki. Kisi ek jati ki dharohar nahin hain hardwork.
Climate change ka bhut bda reason animal farming h …
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Very poor pro vegetarian arguments.
And Sanjay sir you forgot about these new BABA'S who tell people's to not eat meat. And mostly these People get in their Traps
Babas regress our lives, massively.
Virat Kohli, John ibhrahim vegan h ,,,,,,kisi angel se kamjor legate h qua
vegan banana h achha kam ,chote logo ke baski bat nhi,,
Thanks for sharing your perspective.
And yes milk is also animal product and the next stage of vegetarian is vegan
next step in regression you mean? animal products are everywhere around, even in things you dont eat... where do u stop?
Vegetarian and Vegan ka POV sahi tarike se put nahi hua
Kaafi one dimensional talk thi
I would say dosto ki bakchodi thi😅😅😅😅😅
But maza aaya sun ke
Vese world me kitne log vegetarian hay
Or nov vegetarian hay
Aap batao
Absolutely did not expect this from Sanjay. A conversation titled Taste or Ethics actively trying to avoid discussion ethics. Especially on the topic of meat eating. Sanjay and the surgeon both are not only completely inept and unqualified to have this conversation. Given Sanjay's general aptitude, it is surprising to see such utter lack of general knowledge on the subject. Disappointing. This entire panel was extremely bad. Lost interest and respect for all of them.
Thank you for your effort to watch it and leave a long comment. Positivity layo life mein bandhu 😉
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel I'm not sure I understand your suggestion to bring positivity in my life. Did you, a random internet stranger, succeed in concluding that my life has no positivity based on a comment on your video where I share my genuine thoughts? Wow, hmm. If all you want to hear are praises, you have yourself 2 options: 1. Make good, rich, thought-provoking content. 2. Be a sheep/make everyone laugh.
If not, I suggest you prepare to handle well-intentioned criticism. It'll only help you improve. Anyway, I look forward to hearing more of Sanjay, and watching your other videos. My criticism was not from a place of negativity or bias. It was truly awful and painful to watch such learned men make zero sense. Also, your backhanded comment on the length of my comment was just.. it says more about you than me. It's not a crime to dislike longform writing. It was anyway, hardly a few lines. Damn. Chill brother. Thick skin. Peace.
@@vivekdhariwal6110 let me assure you that it was not a backhanded comment, apologies if it sounded so. Baaki criticism is very welcome. We will really appreciate if you could be more specific about lack of knowledge, otherwise it might come across as a 'bhadas' nikalne wala comment. I dont think anyone is 'qualified enough' on meat eating or not as it lot more than just nutrition science. We all are keen to learn from mistakes and add more value, perhaps slowly at times, but that is the intent atleast. hope to hear from you further. thanks and Take care bandhu.
Yes in bihar mushar goes after rain to field.
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Are bhai ye keh raha hai Maharashtra me pehelwan nahi hote... Are bhai kolhapur ko kushti ka ek important sthal kaha jata hai... Aur ha hariyane me kushti jab marathi log panipat gaye ladhai ladhne us waqt hariyana me kushti pohchi aur ha kolhapur ke pehlwan non veg khate hai... Sanjay bhai ne sach kaha inko lagta hai apna state hi bharat hai😅 @sanjayrajoura
Point noted 🙏
Sanjay Rajoura here is crying about generalisation while in the other video he was trying to brush-off the same guy when he tried countering him on generalisation of things.
thanks
Haryana mein hi baithe rehte phir foreign mein kyu aa gaye
Orr aisa khn h ki haryana me meat aasaani se ni milta.....aisa konse city me h haryana kii....hum to khud haryana me rhte hain.....orrr aisa to khin b ni hain....
Haryana ki badnami ki Gayi haï shayad :)
Hum bhartiya hai. Hum rang mai dharam dhoondh sakte hai. Ye to tab bhi maans ki baat hori hai
Hariyana mt ana doctor sahab😂
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Khane do na jisko khana hai jo..
Rape aur murder pe to zor chalta nhi jo actually crime ghoshit hain..
Non veg ko crime bna k unke peeche pad jao..rukege tumse wo bhi nhi
And sanjay sir u are being hypocrite here.. U talk about cast..religion .. And science but u are lacking here
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U himself seeing things at human lavel but why discrimination for animals to just have taste I hope u understand
If u talk about humanity by addressing violence then u no longer then a person who say I will save u all by Destroying his own house
10:52😂😂😂😂 bhai give this man some Sex Education.
He didn't diffrenciate between love and Sex
What's the difference? Just asking.
Zabardasti, haryana wale,
Haryana me ek caste khatik, unka profession he butcher ka raha hai.
Haryana me sab zamindar nhi hote.
Rahe baat wrestling ki , jab invaders aaye tab kit budgi thi thari wrestling.
Theek sai bhai tu so jaa eeb
Haryana wale se intellectual debate kr rhe ho. Yehi bhot hasi ki baat hai😂😂😂
thats not fair, it is often intellectually stimulating... baaki everyone has subjective views.
I could live with just disagreeing with you guys on this one you but I think you guys have reached your limits and framed yourself in the boundaries of your own will being the god, in which case a god exists and it's you (a human) who as he can will cause extreme violence on a mass scale, and not when he needs to survive but when he chooses to please himself, which is the very definition of patriarchy , which is also the base of casteism. You guys must educate yourself more, instead of just gyan peloing with like minded people, you can start a discussion on this one with kunal kamra , he turned vegetarian fairly recently.
According to sikhism anything human eat there is living being present in every thing its idiotic to discuss on meat or non meat ❤
U can eat whatever u want it's your choice but don't promote it...
sure
यार ये सक्स बिलकुल गलत बोल रहा है हरयाणा के जितने पहलवान है मीट नहीं खाते
बजरंगवली के भक्त है ये बात बिलकुल गलत है
मै रेलवे मे T T हूँ मेरे साथ सोनीपत पानीपत के बहुत सारे पहलवाल है जिनको मै जनता हूँ जो रेलवे मे T T है भिवानी साइड के बॉक्सर है
सारे के सारे चिकन मटन खाते है
एक या दो इसका अपवाद हो सकता है
Northeast se to bohot athlete nikalte hain. Iss haryana wale ko northeast ki diet khilao zara. Behos ho jayega apna ye kagaj ka pehelwan😂
Sahi pakde Hain 🙂
Je kis ko baitha liya l panel par ..isko kuch pata hi nahin
very low quality debate and arguments.
only point was- "meri marzi hai".
That’s exactly is Sanjays point, no one should be judged based on what they eat
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel Nah.. Food choices aren't a personal matter anymore. 26% of co2 emmisions are from slaughter house industry. Also, there is no scientific reason for eating meat. So ,Sanjay Bhai rationality ka gyaan sirf upper caste ko mat do.. Right to life is a universal right. Widen your circle of compassion. Veganism is the future.
invalid points by both sanjay and doctor...i don't want to kill someone is also a choice which shpuld be respected like you want your choices to be respected.. no need for counter argument
@@globalcitizen0 since when are the not a choice anymore? If genders can be by choice food choices should surely be. Veganism is not the only future, choice of food is.
@@h.a7467 absolutely, everyone can exercise this choice without being condescending onto the others, thats the whole larger point.