One problem I see is that the price is pretty much on par with a pretty thin laptop with the same specs. The form factor is nice, but I don't really see the situation were it is better than the laptop, except for a designated media box which doesn't need this kind of power. And if you need more power, the cheaper nuc canyon is a little bit more, but has a lot more power. It's a very niche product, but lenovo probably knows that.
@@eseseis7251 yes or an a300 with a 3400g. Yes it's a little bigger, but for under 400 bucks you get desktop perfornance and a gpu that is on par with a gt 1030.
It is aimed at the enterprise sector. Offices use many thin clients and for them, smaller footprint with low power consumption is better. Plus, they are willing to pay these prices, though probably coupled with some quantity discounts.
The Motile 14 seems like it would be up your alley to review Lon, it can be as low as 199 at walmart for a quad core Zen based APU and FHD IPS screen, looks like a pretty great value
A laptop without the screen. That would be a great idea for those who need power but not always same location. Some of us don't like using laptops but rather have desktops. So this be a neat option. Although the price point may be an issue
This is basically a ThinkPad without a screen or keyboard. Its actually a great alternative if you're like me and had a ThinkPad that sat permanently on your desk. Unfortunately the price was a little high and I could only configure it with 8GB ram.
It's the same size as my Thunderbolt dock, so the fact that they crammed in an entire computer inside the same form factor is impressive. Though given the fact that they had quite a bit more room than in a laptop, I would have expected this thing to at least top the performance charts.
It seems like a pretty interesting mini pc, but that price tag compared to specs is wayyy high with even the entry level version being 400$ and even the regular 700$ specs are not that impressive for that hefty of a price tag, especially when you could buy a used Intel skull canyon nuc or a new regular Intel nuc for around that price and get better performance. I feel that Lenovo has some good computers, but many times I feel they shoot themselves in the foot with the price compared to performance, and I usually end up just going with another companys laptop. But that's just my opinion please feel to correct me if I'm wrong.
@@FrozenPlasmaOfficial_YT yes they seem to work well for the company's I've seen use them but I think for individual consumers hp especially in the mini pc market has better performance to cost value
@@questionablegaming3260 That's why I go on eBay, and by used/surplus Lenovo gear, as the cost is usually much much lower, and the value then goes way up long as you know what you need/want, and keep you expectations in check.
David Lewis Additionally, Lenovo has no value as a brand. It’s from China and they don’t even have higher quality products. They’re known to include spyware in the bios. So why can they get away with this?
I'm a big lenovo fan, but i would have liked to see this more competitive with the intel nuc 8i5. With the same ram/storage the nuc is about $525 and has Iris graphics.
I'm a Lenovo fan myself, but these little thing should not be more then $375 USD at the most for what they are. a single 8GB stick of DDR4 SODIMM memory can be had for less then $30 on eBay, so i'm guessing the whole sale price is around $20 USD if not less, so yeah when you start to price out the components it's way overpriced even when also factoring in development, manufacturing, and marketing cost from Lenovo's end.
Thanks. I noticed this tiny computer when looking at other Lenovo devices. And then I found this review so I can have a closer look at this device. Not including a HDMI port at the back of the computer seems like big mistake and the DP port should be a DP++ port. Also the RAM issue is silly, on laptops you can upgrade that.
About the same price as the base Mac Mini and probably about the same performance. Way overpriced for a Windows PC since you can get an Intel NUC for about $500. It'll probably sell because the target market isn't really worried about paying a little extra.
Agreed that the mini and this are for two totally different markets. It's like comparing a pickup truck to a sports car. They're not in competition. I think the OP was just commenting that they're priced a bit high for the hardware. A question I would ask is does it come with some type of support? Maybe if it has a problem they fix it right away. To a business getting their system back online is far more important than paying extra for the hardware. This is one big reason Apple can sell hardware at a price higher than many Windows computers.
I rarely see things that Lenovo makes sell at Lenovo's list price. Even their own website has the list price with a strike through so you can feel like you are getting a discount. That's a $500-550 PC. It will eventually sell at that price if it doesn't already. I hope 10th gen NUCs support USB-C power. The single cable deployment of these devices with a USB-C monitor like the Dell P2419HC is so nice because of the power delivery from the monitor and the displayport daisy chaining to a second monitor. You end up with identical desktop setups for people with USB-C laptops, desktops, or even Samsung DeX.
You can get it for $350 on Lenovo’s ebay store, brand new with wireless mouse and keyboard and pretty good specs. I’m just scared to get it because I’d use it for gaming and stuff and I don’t know if it would hold
If it’s an i-5 or i-7 it should handle casual gaming. You’re right though, if you hunt well on Ebay you can find the highest configuration for around the price he announced.
I've never understood why these are so expensive... They should be cheaper than a laptop with similar specs. I'm sure displays, keyboard and trackpads cost something. There is also a lot less in industrial design costs.... It's just a box.
Below a comment suggests this product is getting into Apple pricey. That's so misleading a statement I wanted to make sure my response wasn't buried in a thread. 'Apple territory' doesn't mean anything except an implication it is overpriced. The question is if this spec is 'pricey' compared to similar PCs. About 3 years ago I bought a 7th Gen i5, 512 SSD, Intel Graphics VivoMini PC from Asus for... $699. It's twice the size of this Lenovo. This Lenovo (on Amazon) appears to include a 3 year warranty -- which is SquareTrade savings of $119. So if it's $634 on Amazon minus the $119 warranty it's current price is actually $515. I'm no fan or defender of Lenovo, mind you. I'm just fascinated by the Mini PC concept. (I'm also into the Micro PCs offered by Beelink.) So I'll ask: where can you get a similarly spec'd PC that isn't a big ugly box for much less? And doesn't Lenovo have the right to mark this up a little considering the insanely small form factor?
This might work for a musician looking for portable hardware to use with music pdf reader software. I am thinking put two portable 15" monitors on a music stand in portrait mode (extended desktop) and fasten the PC to the music stand support. Not sure if there is a standard mount. I have an Acer Iconia 6120 that luckily keeps working. I am always keeping an eye out for an alternative solution.
Hey Lon! Great review as always. I recently reviewed this device for Notebookcheck and had a similar conclusion to yours. Who is this device for? I’m guessing corporates who really want a compact desktop, but Lenovo priced this one out of the market. I’m currently looking at the IoT version. We’ll see if it’s any different.
I like how that machine has the same guts as my ThinkPad L390 except of course my ThinkPad is upgradable in terms of RAM the other day I ordered An 8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz RAM module and when it gets here I’m gonna install that and bring it up to 16 that way I can take advantage of that dual channel ram. The storage is also upgradable just like this machine but unlike this machine the ram in my ThinkPad is upgradable
I got a little BeeLink on Amazon for 215, has two m2 slots and a sata and bay for a 2.5 drive. 8 g ram and a 4205 with dual 4k hdmi output. Four usb 3 ports, gigabit enet, and phone jack for my speakers. Comes with windows on the included m2 drive. I took that out and put in a Sata SSD loaded up Linux Mint and it does a great job. Runs at 10 watts wide open. I do not game at all. I like Lenovo but that little box is just way overpriced. Costs 50 bucks more than my AIO 700 24ish. The AIO 700 monitor has HDMI in to use as a standalone so I have two computers with the same monitor keyboard and trackball (on a USB switch)
$700 ? Shouldn't it be more like $70 ??? The 15-inch Toshiba laptop that I'm using right now only cost me $500 a few years ago, and it has a display, keyboard, DVD drive, and a whole not more that little box does NOT come with.
Lenovo, let's see the same with an AMD Ryzen 4000 mobile chip. The chips AMD announced January 2020 seem to outperform the same segment from intel by quite a bit.
For everybody whose complaining about the crappy specs, just so you know yo can upgrade to an i7 8 gen, 1 tb ssd, 16 gb ram. This is perfect for office jobs.
Hi Can you do a review on khadas vim3 pro. Hook up a portable Harddrive. Use as plex media server. Access remotely capability in transcoding movies? Thanks
Will $399.00 do it for ya?. Because Lenovo is trying to clear the warehouse. Puny? 8th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-8265U Processor (1.60 GHz, up to 3.90 GHz with Turbo Boost, 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 6 MB Cache)
Good review. Not for me even though we have a small office environment. The Lenovo tiny series are cheaper, slightly upgradable and bulletproof in comparison
Greetings, anyone can provide me insight on the topic of getting this PC powered by the USB-C, new to power delivery and want to make it right... Thank you for the answers
considering the simplicity of these devices, gotta wonder why they are freaking expensive. government / company really won't buy these kind of stuff for their office uses because the full tower PC are simply far cheaper & reasonable options...
No Home Theater support. Hmm. This is truly a workstation machine. For the price you're really paying for the form factor. I can get a lot of computing power the price they're asking for this machine. I understand it's a core i5 but I find it very pricey for what it can do.
Those power buttons suck. (if they're the same as laptops/docking stations) You always have to press them ridiculously hard to turn on. The more you use those buttons, the harder it gets. wtf! Remember soft touch on tv remotes in the '80's? Not that it should be that easy! usb-c to hdmi, I expect it to be laggy. Now I know what you're thinking "not gaming on it!!!" But it is annoying that when you move an application quickly that there is a delay and/or flickering going on. I can't imagine a more mass produced laptop to be that more expensive (even though it should) I'd get the laptop, just to be able to see what happens, when you encounter errors.
I usually like Lenovo stuff, but good grief for this kind of money I can build a Micro ATX AMD gaming machine. If you don't mind something a bit bigger(about double this size) and don't need the horsepower of this thing, there is a seller on eBay selling used Lenovo Thinkcentre M53 dual core Celeron machines with 4GB of DDR3L RAM, and a 500GB 2.5in HDD that's perfect for a low end Manjaro Linux W/ Budgie DE build, or Chromium OS build, and I payed just under $48 USD I then replaced the HDD with a 120GB ADATA SSD which cost me $17, and an 8GB stick of VEINEDA DDR3L that cost me $23, and again was perfect for a basic Chromium build using Neverware's Cloudready OS Home Edition, and my elder aunt could not be more happy.
Hmmmm R5 1600 af $85 16gigs of 3200 cl 14 ram. $109 Itx b450 $121 Used gpu $100 Decent case $50 $465. Take the $200 and change savings to splurge on the next steam sale.
Slappy McPhee: I can see how this might be useful for someone who wants to use the same desktop setup at work and at home. One display at work, one display at home, taking this small computer back and forth means no reliance on cloud data and better data security as you always have your computer with you. As long as you don’t want to use it at Starbucks like a laptop, you are good.
You know this thing will start to throttle during heavy loads. Let's put a massive cooler on it to see how fast we can push it with some gaming. Ha ha. Can you over clock the CPU?
Tech to buy on eBay in 5 or 6 years just to mess around with.
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OR today...399 on lenovo's website, lol
4-5 years to go
One problem I see is that the price is pretty much on par with a pretty thin laptop with the same specs.
The form factor is nice, but I don't really see the situation were it is better than the laptop, except for a designated media box which doesn't need this kind of power.
And if you need more power, the cheaper nuc canyon is a little bit more, but has a lot more power.
It's a very niche product, but lenovo probably knows that.
@@eseseis7251 yes or an a300 with a 3400g. Yes it's a little bigger, but for under 400 bucks you get desktop perfornance and a gpu that is on par with a gt 1030.
It is aimed at the enterprise sector. Offices use many thin clients and for them, smaller footprint with low power consumption is better. Plus, they are willing to pay these prices, though probably coupled with some quantity discounts.
The Motile 14 seems like it would be up your alley to review Lon, it can be as low as 199 at walmart for a quad core Zen based APU and FHD IPS screen, looks like a pretty great value
A laptop without the screen. That would be a great idea for those who need power but not always same location. Some of us don't like using laptops but rather have desktops. So this be a neat option. Although the price point may be an issue
This is basically a ThinkPad without a screen or keyboard. Its actually a great alternative if you're like me and had a ThinkPad that sat permanently on your desk. Unfortunately the price was a little high and I could only configure it with 8GB ram.
It's the same size as my Thunderbolt dock, so the fact that they crammed in an entire computer inside the same form factor is impressive.
Though given the fact that they had quite a bit more room than in a laptop, I would have expected this thing to at least top the performance charts.
Good review, thanks for including all the benchmark tests. Looks like a nice clean mini PC.
It seems like a pretty interesting mini pc, but that price tag compared to specs is wayyy high with even the entry level version being 400$ and even the regular 700$ specs are not that impressive for that hefty of a price tag, especially when you could buy a used Intel skull canyon nuc or a new regular Intel nuc for around that price and get better performance. I feel that Lenovo has some good computers, but many times I feel they shoot themselves in the foot with the price compared to performance, and I usually end up just going with another companys laptop. But that's just my opinion please feel to correct me if I'm wrong.
Most companies/Banks in Europe use Thinkpads since years. Of course formerly know as IBM :)
@@FrozenPlasmaOfficial_YT yes they seem to work well for the company's I've seen use them but I think for individual consumers hp especially in the mini pc market has better performance to cost value
@@questionablegaming3260 That's why I go on eBay, and by used/surplus Lenovo gear, as the cost is usually much much lower, and the value then goes way up long as you know what you need/want, and keep you expectations in check.
No hdmi and replaceable ram is a deal breaker especially at this price
David Lewis Additionally, Lenovo has no value as a brand. It’s from China and they don’t even have higher quality products. They’re known to include spyware in the bios. So why can they get away with this?
"doesn't support wifi 6", keep in mind, you can get the intel wifi 6 card delivered for $12.50 from aliexpress.
Still way too expensive compared to competing options
Haven’t watched it all yet, but nice review as always!
I find it amusing that it’s the same size as some USB C docks but it has a full computer inside
Zosu we have the lenovo usbc docks in the office. I'm sure they're bigger than this thing.
I'm a big lenovo fan, but i would have liked to see this more competitive with the intel nuc 8i5. With the same ram/storage the nuc is about $525 and has Iris graphics.
I'm a Lenovo fan myself, but these little thing should not be more then $375 USD at the most for what they are. a single 8GB stick of DDR4 SODIMM memory can be had for less then $30 on eBay, so i'm guessing the whole sale price is around $20 USD if not less, so yeah when you start to price out the components it's way overpriced even when also factoring in development, manufacturing, and marketing cost from Lenovo's end.
Everyone is complaining BUT they are on sale for well under $400 dollars!
Thanks. I noticed this tiny computer when looking at other Lenovo devices. And then I found this review so I can have a closer look at this device. Not including a HDMI port at the back of the computer seems like big mistake and the DP port should be a DP++ port. Also the RAM issue is silly, on laptops you can upgrade that.
Good review! It would be great if you record the noise of the fan to have a better insight of it.
I have a few. The M93 and a few others. I am a fan.
Big yikes at that price-point considering the specs. Getting into Apple territory.
About the same price as the base Mac Mini and probably about the same performance. Way overpriced for a Windows PC since you can get an Intel NUC for about $500. It'll probably sell because the target market isn't really worried about paying a little extra.
Agreed. Lenovo products are grossly overpriced, even with a discount I get through my company. I think all they care about are bulk buyers.
Agreed that the mini and this are for two totally different markets. It's like comparing a pickup truck to a sports car. They're not in competition. I think the OP was just commenting that they're priced a bit high for the hardware. A question I would ask is does it come with some type of support? Maybe if it has a problem they fix it right away. To a business getting their system back online is far more important than paying extra for the hardware. This is one big reason Apple can sell hardware at a price higher than many Windows computers.
I rarely see things that Lenovo makes sell at Lenovo's list price. Even their own website has the list price with a strike through so you can feel like you are getting a discount. That's a $500-550 PC. It will eventually sell at that price if it doesn't already. I hope 10th gen NUCs support USB-C power. The single cable deployment of these devices with a USB-C monitor like the Dell P2419HC is so nice because of the power delivery from the monitor and the displayport daisy chaining to a second monitor. You end up with identical desktop setups for people with USB-C laptops, desktops, or even Samsung DeX.
This is a smear more than an accurate comment.
Thank you Lon for another great video , only one question i have , how it perform comparing to the Intel Nuc with similar components ?
i like the trying linux to make sure it works for that ty for that
I think an Intel NUC might be a better choice for many due to smaller size, VESA-mount, and memory modules of free choice (and Thunderbolt).
You can get it for $350 on Lenovo’s ebay store, brand new with wireless mouse and keyboard and pretty good specs. I’m just scared to get it because I’d use it for gaming and stuff and I don’t know if it would hold
If it’s an i-5 or i-7 it should handle casual gaming. You’re right though, if you hunt well on Ebay you can find the highest configuration for around the price he announced.
I think I would have prefered a Sodimm slot over an extra M.2
I've never understood why these are so expensive... They should be cheaper than a laptop with similar specs. I'm sure displays, keyboard and trackpads cost something. There is also a lot less in industrial design costs.... It's just a box.
It has a custom small factor mobo.
Below a comment suggests this product is getting into Apple pricey. That's so misleading a statement I wanted to make sure my response wasn't buried in a thread. 'Apple territory' doesn't mean anything except an implication it is overpriced. The question is if this spec is 'pricey' compared to similar PCs.
About 3 years ago I bought a 7th Gen i5, 512 SSD, Intel Graphics VivoMini PC from Asus for... $699. It's twice the size of this Lenovo. This Lenovo (on Amazon) appears to include a 3 year warranty -- which is SquareTrade savings of $119. So if it's $634 on Amazon minus the $119 warranty it's current price is actually $515.
I'm no fan or defender of Lenovo, mind you. I'm just fascinated by the Mini PC concept. (I'm also into the Micro PCs offered by Beelink.) So I'll ask: where can you get a similarly spec'd PC that isn't a big ugly box for much less? And doesn't Lenovo have the right to mark this up a little considering the insanely small form factor?
This might work for a musician looking for portable hardware to use with music pdf reader software. I am thinking put two portable 15" monitors on a music stand in portrait mode (extended desktop) and fasten the PC to the music stand support. Not sure if there is a standard mount. I have an Acer Iconia 6120 that luckily keeps working. I am always keeping an eye out for an alternative solution.
Lots of audio no video, Initial frame and then it locks but audio keeps running. Love YouBoob! Reload fixes it.
Hey Lon! Great review as always. I recently reviewed this device for Notebookcheck and had a similar conclusion to yours. Who is this device for? I’m guessing corporates who really want a compact desktop, but Lenovo priced this one out of the market.
I’m currently looking at the IoT version. We’ll see if it’s any different.
U can get a same specs NUC for half the price. Big miss from Lenovo.
you can get usff dell for 300$ with i5 and sdd and 16gb of ram. Senless.
I like how that machine has the same guts as my ThinkPad L390 except of course my ThinkPad is upgradable in terms of RAM the other day I ordered An 8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz RAM module and when it gets here I’m gonna install that and bring it up to 16 that way I can take advantage of that dual channel ram. The storage is also upgradable just like this machine but unlike this machine the ram in my ThinkPad is upgradable
I got a little BeeLink on Amazon for 215, has two m2 slots and a sata and bay for a 2.5 drive. 8 g ram and a 4205 with dual 4k hdmi output. Four usb 3 ports, gigabit enet, and phone jack for my speakers. Comes with windows on the included m2 drive. I took that out and put in a Sata SSD loaded up Linux Mint and it does a great job. Runs at 10 watts wide open. I do not game at all. I like Lenovo but that little box is just way overpriced. Costs 50 bucks more than my AIO 700 24ish. The AIO 700 monitor has HDMI in to use as a standalone so I have two computers with the same monitor keyboard and trackball (on a USB switch)
This is how computers should be. Size power.
all in one best.. lenovo can merg or add elements behind thin 144 hz monitor
Since Lenovo provided this for review, I wonder if their marketing people read our comments here.
$700 ? Shouldn't it be more like $70 ???
The 15-inch Toshiba laptop that I'm using right now only cost me $500 a few years ago, and it has a display, keyboard, DVD drive, and a whole not more that little box does NOT come with.
To bad it doesn’t work for home theater. Any recommendations for a low cost laptop that will work well as a video server running Channels DVR?
Hey Lon, you can get a high specs really AMD laptop with display and keyboard for that price, instead of that dock with CPU, Don´t you think so ?
better off buying their tiny Thinkcentre pc's like the M700/710-M900/910 those can be upgraded.. and are quite small.. and more powerful imo..
at that price,its a deal breaker for me
Same the 400$ price tag for the entry level one is wayyyy steep
@Fuert Neigt I fully agree with you. Great point.
Lenovo, let's see the same with an AMD Ryzen 4000 mobile chip. The chips AMD announced January 2020 seem to outperform the same segment from intel by quite a bit.
For everybody whose complaining about the crappy specs, just so you know yo can upgrade to an i7 8 gen, 1 tb ssd, 16 gb ram. This is perfect for office jobs.
This is so expensive for so little even for the base model. What is Lenovo thinking that is a good idea.
Is there a similar form factor w a decent GPU?
The adapter included with mine does work at 4k60. Weird
Until Intel has an efficient and powerful integrated graphics solution. This equipment / price segment is only right to be in AMD / ATI combos.
Hi
Can you do a review on khadas vim3 pro. Hook up a portable Harddrive. Use as plex media server. Access remotely capability in transcoding movies? Thanks
It would have been cool to do a Novabench on this too! 👍
👏🏼👏🏼Ty Loni for the Review 👍🏼
Amazing pc
$700? For that puny thing? Ha, I don't think so.
Will $399.00 do it for ya?. Because Lenovo is trying to clear the warehouse.
Puny?
8th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-8265U Processor (1.60 GHz, up to 3.90 GHz with Turbo Boost, 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 6 MB Cache)
Nice review.
Good review. Not for me even though we have a small office environment. The Lenovo tiny series are cheaper, slightly upgradable and bulletproof in comparison
Greetings, anyone can provide me insight on the topic of getting this PC powered by the USB-C, new to power delivery and want to make it right... Thank you for the answers
I wonder how good it would run an arcade cabinet.
After hearing the price, I lost interest lol
considering the simplicity of these devices, gotta wonder why they are freaking expensive.
government / company really won't buy these kind of stuff for their office uses because the full tower PC are simply far cheaper & reasonable options...
No Home Theater support. Hmm. This is truly a workstation machine. For the price you're really paying for the form factor. I can get a lot of computing power the price they're asking for this machine. I understand it's a core i5 but I find it very pricey for what it can do.
Those power buttons suck. (if they're the same as laptops/docking stations) You always have to press them ridiculously hard to turn on. The more you use those buttons, the harder it gets.
wtf! Remember soft touch on tv remotes in the '80's? Not that it should be that easy!
usb-c to hdmi, I expect it to be laggy. Now I know what you're thinking "not gaming on it!!!" But it is annoying that when you move an application quickly that there is a delay and/or flickering going on.
I can't imagine a more mass produced laptop to be that more expensive (even though it should)
I'd get the laptop, just to be able to see what happens, when you encounter errors.
I usually like Lenovo stuff, but good grief for this kind of money I can build a Micro ATX AMD gaming machine. If you don't mind something a bit bigger(about double this size) and don't need the horsepower of this thing, there is a seller on eBay selling used Lenovo Thinkcentre M53 dual core Celeron machines with 4GB of DDR3L RAM, and a 500GB 2.5in HDD that's perfect for a low end Manjaro Linux W/ Budgie DE build, or Chromium OS build, and I payed just under $48 USD I then replaced the HDD with a 120GB ADATA SSD which cost me $17, and an 8GB stick of VEINEDA DDR3L that cost me $23, and again was perfect for a basic Chromium build using Neverware's Cloudready OS Home Edition, and my elder aunt could not be more happy.
Does any of the lenovo ehinkcenter support vmware vsphere?
Thank you for review it always listen and many detail i need but the price is a bit too expensive it good concept but the price tag ~ ~
does m90n-1 has integrated microphone?
You can get a full laptop of the same spec for the same price....
No 4k TH-cam test?
nice machine but holy damn the pricing... europe price does NOT help there either...
What about running a plex server on it ? Transcoding ? I thought you gonna test it
It’ll do fine as a plex server given the processor
If only it has ryzen 7 and vega 10 ill buy
Please review ASRock Deskmini A300
I do some IT work for a company that uses Lenovo products. I am sick of that back ground.
A laptop without a laptop is a nothing
What if we add e-gpu?
A PC Mac Mini... about the same price... but Apple is always overpriced 🙄
Hmmmm
R5 1600 af $85
16gigs of 3200 cl 14 ram. $109
Itx b450 $121
Used gpu $100
Decent case $50
$465.
Take the $200 and change savings to splurge on the next steam sale.
At that price point I'd prefer a latte panda alpha .
Will this thing play sound?
$700?!? For THAT? LMBO! What drugs are the marketing team at Lenovo on?
The same with amd please !
Lenovo should be using AMD APU's because they have more powerful graphics. BTW shintel charges too much so Lenova passes the cost onto the consumer.
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yes i overreacted
if only it had dual nics it would make a great pfsense box
Pass.
"a laptop without a laptop" I rather pay for a laptop for that price.
This product is very niche considering how overpriced it is and how no matter at what price you get it there is a better option.
Straight up - this is stupid expensive. $700 is literally stupid.
If this was $200 - absolutely grab it, at $700 this is redonk overpriced.
Hard pass on the price point. Can't understand what market these would make sense for.
Slappy McPhee: I can see how this might be useful for someone who wants to use the same desktop setup at work and at home. One display at work, one display at home, taking this small computer back and forth means no reliance on cloud data and better data security as you always have your computer with you. As long as you don’t want to use it at Starbucks like a laptop, you are good.
'It's essentially a laptop without the laptop' - uh, no ... it's essentially a very small PC
I can but 3 good mid tower i5 desktops with the $700
You know this thing will start to throttle during heavy loads. Let's put a massive cooler on it to see how fast we can push it with some gaming. Ha ha. Can you over clock the CPU?
Your videos are not coming up in my feed.
Still more ports than the Apple Macbook Pro
I still have my Voyo v3 that cost me 199.99
@David Lewis I can't believe how good it works for what it is, no stuttering on TH-cam @ 1080
You can get a whole lot more computer for 700bucks than this thing, or even an actual good laptop
7 months later its $450 lol
Can you pleas when make a chep laptop video play roblox
when are the new intel nucs with 10th gen processors coming up?
Are you going to CES ?
I am !
@@LonSeidman Great, you made great videos last year showing many things other people miss.
Just get all in one pc instead. Price will be the same
No mention of linux, no interest. NUCs are cheaper and still overpriced - and do linux nicely.
10:09 watch the video
good video but garbage price on this.