Just an FYI this is no longer available, although the one that replaced it has the same specs. It's now over $500 MSRP. At that price it's not such a great deal. You can build a pretty good little PC for $500 bucks.
thats what I find so frustrating after watching reviews such as this... no fault of the person doing the review of course... but the idea what they are reviewing is not available any longer, adn what is, is just silly expensive. It almost makes me wonder if the vendors do this on purpose to increase traffic to their website.
Welcome to the COVID era. Do you want a thin client? pay the same price as a complete PC. Why not to buy a complete PC then? because this is advertised as thin client "certified" for working from home, and that certification makes it 3 times more expensive, or else your business will go bankrupt :). humans are a quite interesting form of living things that see business on global social problems. I wonder when we will evolute enough to skip those practices.
for $90 you can get yourself an elitedesk usff with 4 core I5 4th generation, wifi and also the possibility of adding an m.2 ssd. cheaper and better than this thing
I'm kind of getting tired of this to be quite honest. Every single time he put some video with a product I like I decide to go try and buy it and it's impossible to get.
@Ayjop It can do what some people want most of the time, disappointing almost everyone some of the time. If it works for you, fine. I don't have a niche where it would be useful.
Nice system! I was lucky enough to spot a similar mini machine on Cyber Monday. HP Prodesk 400 G2 Mini I found for $120. It's a very small machine also (a little bigger than this but not much) features an i3, 8GB (up to 32GB) display port, ethernet, BT and plenty of USB ports. I've been using it ever since and it's a slick little machine- silent and runs all I need it too. I will upgrade the RAM to 32GB and possibly stick an i7 (6700T) as it's CPU upgradable as well. You may want to check out the Prodesk line!
The M90 IOT (which is the replacement for this M92 on the Lenovo site) is now starting at 360$ and looks like a pretty nice machine. If you need something that small, I'd recommend Protecli boxes as they are half the price and have more upgrade options.
How much does the fan sound in those? Does it turn of on idle? I got a HP Elitedesk 800 G2 mini (same size, was easier to find second hand where I am), and am happy with it except for the fan sound on low utilisation (always on, slightly annoying in a otherwise quite room, and it goes up and down repeatedly quite rapidly which makes it more noticeable).
This is similar to my HP T640 Thin Client with the Ryzen R1505G embedded processor. Though the MSRP is higher than this unit, I did get it off an ebay seller who didn't realize what they had. I paid $169 and has similar specs to this. I have since dumped the 128GB m.2 SATA SSD for a 480gb version, swapped out the 8GB of ram for 32GB, and added a wireless card for bluetooth and Wi-Fi. Since then I've found the HP T740 with a better processor. These are great machines!
You should test the Linux. So we could compare with PIs and other SBCs out there. Fanless x86 with this power is very nice, never saw on this rpice range...
No point to making this kind of comparison really, RPi and other similar SBCs are always a worse choice than any x86 computer in the same price bracket for most use cases. Like trying to compare a Vespa to a Ducati.
@@MedicSound ot so sure, you can get a pi with 8GB ram and this device has 4gb of ram. My beed with the PI is that the sound wont work. I have two new out of the box with updated OS and the sound wont work on either one. The sound was working until the OS was updated.
@@nosuchthing8 Sure, but you can't get a Pi with a processor that can handle any meaningful workloads so the extra 4GB of RAM really isn't all that significant. Tasks that somehow use lots of RAM but don't also have a high computational overhead aren't very common. Most USFF PCs around $100 murder Pis in terms of performance per dollar.
@@nosuchthing8 "Supercomputer" is kinda a misnomer because they still don't have more performance than spending the same amount of money on regular PC hardware, but what a lot of those setups are for is developing and testing applications that require a bunch of nodes because the Pi cluster is cheaper than the equivalent amount of full scale hardware if it's something they're doing regularly. I'm not saying that RPis are bad, just a lot of things people expect them to do they either aren't particularly good at or the task is outside of their capabilities, and if you're in a position where you'd consider x86 for the activity that's more than likely just what you should do and skip over all the SBCs.
One of the only things that keeps us from going to something like that in the corporate world for cheap user desktops, is Windows Update absolutely clobbering that CPU. Everything else runs plenty fast for non-power users using mostly browser based stuff. It’s too bad Microsoft can’t get their own OS updater to not be the heaviest load on Win10 machines every month.
The AMD Zen version of this just shipped from Lenovo. Vega graphics. Same 4Gb of soldered RAM. Same internal expansion. These are typically used for remote signage applications.
Been looking for a compact desktop machine for the wife's office to handle business apps and teleconferencing and this little guy looks just about perfect.
This Odyssee might also be an option: th-cam.com/video/ra_oiqAoHAo/w-d-xo.html And also check out Intel NUC PCs with celeron in it. Sometimes they even get sold used on Ebay ...
I really wanted to buy this today but its $150 more now. Only a month after your video posted. At $129 its very affordable, at $279 not so much if you are just starting a business. But Thank You for the very informative videos you put out.
Every time I see a vid on this channel, my first thought: _"Is he gonna connect a eGPU to it?"_ 😂😂😂 Very cool, tho. I can wait until they're back in stock.
I like the Larkbox Pro, amazing pc for it's size. Just turned one into an emulation station for my Daughter and Grandson for Christmas with 512gb m.2 ssd.
Very good video review. I just got the Intel® Core™ i3 dual core 4 threads 3.90 GHz model for use with my TV. Needed something small, cheap and able to handle 4K.
For a little media pc this thing seems great. Cheaper than any console all you would need is a little wireless keyboard / touchpad combo and you're in business.
I actually use a Pi 4 as a desktop. I have a “real” laptop that I can use for a “fill-in” device when I need it. The real use of something like this would be a POS system, the size and position of the ports doesn’t really save much in the way of desktop space. I used to sell computer systems, and you really have to honest about what you have planned for a computer like this before you buy it. To expect this to be a “cheap” gaming system would be a huge stretch of the imagination.
I don't know if I would pick this one up unless I'm actually doing an IoT project where I need a ton of expansions. For desktop use, I think the J4125 Larkbox Pro is more attractive with comparable single core performance and 50% more multi core performance and 50% more memory, at $160 (1064 CNY), let alone much smaller size and true portability.
Would love to see a review of the I3 version in a future video. Priced at $219, if it were able to reliably emulate generation 6 games, which this unit is right on the edge of being able to do, it would make it the best bang for your buck for mid-level emulation.
The price is comparable to a Raspberry pi 4 with nice case, power supply, fancy antenna, USBC to HDMI adapter, mouse and keyboard. If you could plug in Atari/Sega controllers into those front parallel ports. That would be awesome for retro gaming. Just needs a woodgrain finish on the top heat sink.
Yes, out of this one but the next one up @ $215 with $604 ecoupon on site (w/Tax $234), was floating in & out this weekend on availability but did catch it today. Same specs except processor bumped up to 8th gen i3 8145u (2.10 Ghz /3.90 turbo boost,2 cores 4 threads 4 MB cache) instead of the Celeron and ddr4 2666Mhz ram instead of 2133MHZ. That should boost performance a touch. At this time still showing available. Almost forgot, apparently two network ports as well.
The ETA Prime effect did set in as previously noted, but there was a secondary couple of packages available and I opted for the $279 one which is going for $999 on Amazon, so still a great deal. Been looking for a good Cash Register replacement in a small package and this fit the bill perfectly.Additionally, to help with he financing they break it down, interest free, to about $70 for 4 payments, so better yet...
This would work awesome if you could get it for a NAS controller. Quiet low powered. The USB-C's can be adapted to usb 3's. Currently using a repurposed Hp Elitebook for this purpose.
I actually have one of these except it is the AMD Athlon version. I also did an experiment with the slot for the 4G add-on card and it turns out that you can actually install another SSD in there so you can actually have up to 3 SSDs. And it only supports up to a 2242.
These are now $359 with a 256G SSD but no wifi or bluetooth card. The memory is no longer soldered in, so maybe upgradable? They were apparently dumping the older models for cheap.
I was "accidentally" sent the P90 SFF version a few months back. For a small desktop it's not that bad. I handles MTG Arena no problem and I've played FFVII through Steam without any issues. It came with 8gb RAM with a second slot that I added a 4gb stick to. My only real complaint is that it has 2 display ports and one VGA. I'd rather they had either left off a display port or dropped the VGA and added an HDMI port.
I'm always impressed by low cost computing performance. I really don't care as much about high end stuff as much as I do about just how much more cost computing is capable of doing.
@@natangurfinkel I remember one time I went into a Taco Bell and the manager was on the phone with IT having to reboot the PoS system, and I commented the PoS stands for more than just Point-of-Sales.
Hey Prime, great video! I had a request, could you try running Breath of the Wild on the M1 Mac via any of the well known emulators? Very Curious. Also, Happy holidays
Looking at this because... I'd like a portable system where I can use my wonderful logitech keyboard for writing on the road. Add a small but nice screen.... this might work!
But not available at this price anymore in the US... it was just a temporary sale price. The title is misleading because nobody can get one of these for $129
lpddr4 at 2133mhz is holding this back a big time! .. they should have used normal ddr4 21333mhz or atleast lpdrr4 at more than 3000mhz .. posibally 3800mhz .. lpddr4 is half the bandwidth of ddr4 and that's why many units run at very high speed to compensate and they can do it pretty easy.
About as fast as a Core 2 Duo E8500 which I had back in the day. Pretty interesting that this thing can be had in a headless but otherwise complete package for that price.
Interesting device, and not bad for the price. It’s a long time since I owned a PC with two serial ports, not much call for them nowadays, in a home environment at least.
This is yet another example of windows X86 having more refined graphics support than open source SBC & OS. The i3 version of this would be a handy no nonsense tool, but this one is too weak to buy new today. $219 for i3 is a head scratcher, I am writing this on a year old $300 Ryzen 5 laptop from lenovo -all that and a bag of chips. Until windows and X86 get a clue I am focused on my M1 MBA and run all old software in emulation. For Open source control RPie -there is some really cool stuff coming for the compute module.
The $279 i3-8145U M90n IoT seems to have a lot more going for it and at least includes a wireless Keyboard and mouse... The tested Celeron version benchmark's seem comparable to Core2Duo machines from about 10 years ago. How many users would really want an obsolescent $144 C2D box with a thrift store grade wired keyboard and mouse today? We have about a half dozen working retired C2D era machines in storage waiting for the recycler!
I would love to see you have a go with the top end i3 and I believe they will release an AMD one soon. It could be fun to use the m.2 slot to put in an external gpu. Thanks for the great content!
The Zen based M75n just shipped. The reason everyone is seeing "out of stock" is because Lenovo just did a huge coupon campaign and cut the prices dramatically. This ended up being cheaper than some of the recent Intel SBC's. I think Lenovo is onto something.
Annnnnnd its gone! The ETA effect is at it again! Good news is that the i3 version is now $215 and there is a military/student/first responder discount too.
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Just an FYI this is no longer available, although the one that replaced it has the same specs. It's now over $500 MSRP. At that price it's not such a great deal. You can build a pretty good little PC for $500 bucks.
Of course its not - you can buy for 250$ AMD mini PC which blows away this piece of crap of PC ...
Now it's starting at $749. :-(
@@david0858too What a huge piece of shit, i just got a Ryzen 5 mini PC for 300$ and its like 50 times faster than this shit
This product is EoL and has been replaced by devices that are 4x as expensive.
thats what I find so frustrating after watching reviews such as this... no fault of the person doing the review of course... but the idea what they are reviewing is not available any longer, adn what is, is just silly expensive. It almost makes me wonder if the vendors do this on purpose to increase traffic to their website.
@@MicheIIePucca Yep, very expensive now starting at $359 and way up from there...
Welcome to the COVID era. Do you want a thin client? pay the same price as a complete PC. Why not to buy a complete PC then? because this is advertised as thin client "certified" for working from home, and that certification makes it 3 times more expensive, or else your business will go bankrupt :). humans are a quite interesting form of living things that see business on global social problems. I wonder when we will evolute enough to skip those practices.
for $90 you can get yourself an elitedesk usff with 4 core I5 4th generation, wifi and also the possibility of adding an m.2 ssd. cheaper and better than this thing
Feeding my addiction to small form factor computers... Must resist.
Well not much to resist, I haven't found any sellers who sell the Celeron version.
@@fredwupkensoppel8949 Me too lol!
The ETA Prime Effect strikes again. This unit is "temporarily unavailable"
LOL!
People will buy it and re sell it on Walmart lol
I'm kind of getting tired of this to be quite honest. Every single time he put some video with a product I like I decide to go try and buy it and it's impossible to get.
It has been "temporarily unavailable" for weeks so don't blame him lol.
well, I found a few... ranging from 215-1200 bucks. God, I hate people.
I love these little PCs you're reviewing. This thing really needs a Ryzen chip!
Yes
Apparently they have a M75n Nano with a ryzen 5 3500U
The M75 IoT with the Ryzen based Athlon Silver 3050e just shipped. 2C/4T. Its a stripped down (less cache) Zen with Vega graphics.
Nah the passive cooling can't handle the ryzen
Maybe it can handle athlon silver
It looks like Lenovo took it down as it's saying "Temporarily Unavailable". Maybe they didn't want this targeted to the consumer market.
This would be perfect for my classroom. I guess the trick now is finding one at $129.
Great review on a cool product! Thanks!
Yup! As of now on their web site it says starting at $290
DuUkE thats a deal breaker for my classroom...
I’m very impressed. This pc definitely could be small noiseless desktop replacement for some.
For that price you can get a Office machine with a 4590t and 8gb ram. Optiplex 3020 micro for example.
@@garuda that’s true but this has no fan and low power consumption. So it’s quiet and power efficient.
Yes to mention
@Ayjop It can do what some people want most of the time, disappointing almost everyone some of the time.
If it works for you, fine.
I don't have a niche where it would be useful.
Define way more power? 35 tdp watts is my Optiplex mini with a 4590t. 30,66 $ per year rated by cpuboss.
What a truly unique little beast you've come across there ETA. Let's see what it does with GNU/Linux game emulation. Stay Well!!
Nice system! I was lucky enough to spot a similar mini machine on Cyber Monday. HP Prodesk 400 G2 Mini I found for $120. It's a very small machine also (a little bigger than this but not much) features an i3, 8GB (up to 32GB) display port, ethernet, BT and plenty of USB ports. I've been using it ever since and it's a slick little machine- silent and runs all I need it too. I will upgrade the RAM to 32GB and possibly stick an i7 (6700T) as it's CPU upgradable as well. You may want to check out the Prodesk line!
I absolutely do not believe that that price was ever available.
It was. They had a black Friday special.
The M90 IOT (which is the replacement for this M92 on the Lenovo site) is now starting at 360$ and looks like a pretty nice machine. If you need something that small, I'd recommend Protecli boxes as they are half the price and have more upgrade options.
I'm so glad you're reviewing this! I saw it looking at SBC's for kitchen video systems for work.
I love these little computers from Lenovo and HP. For less than $150, a PC with a full copy of Windows is just too good to pass up.
An amazing video ETA!
Nice video. I have the M92p,M72e,M73 and M910q and this does look an interesting twist on the usual tiny range
How much does the fan sound in those? Does it turn of on idle?
I got a HP Elitedesk 800 G2 mini (same size, was easier to find second hand where I am), and am happy with it except for the fan sound on low utilisation (always on, slightly annoying in a otherwise quite room, and it goes up and down repeatedly quite rapidly which makes it more noticeable).
This is similar to my HP T640 Thin Client with the Ryzen R1505G embedded processor. Though the MSRP is higher than this unit, I did get it off an ebay seller who didn't realize what they had. I paid $169 and has similar specs to this. I have since dumped the 128GB m.2 SATA SSD for a 480gb version, swapped out the 8GB of ram for 32GB, and added a wireless card for bluetooth and Wi-Fi. Since then I've found the HP T740 with a better processor. These are great machines!
You should test the Linux. So we could compare with PIs and other SBCs out there. Fanless x86 with this power is very nice, never saw on this rpice range...
No point to making this kind of comparison really, RPi and other similar SBCs are always a worse choice than any x86 computer in the same price bracket for most use cases. Like trying to compare a Vespa to a Ducati.
@@MedicSound ot so sure, you can get a pi with 8GB ram and this device has 4gb of ram.
My beed with the PI is that the sound wont work. I have two new out of the box with updated OS and the sound wont work on either one. The sound was working until the OS was updated.
@@nosuchthing8 Sure, but you can't get a Pi with a processor that can handle any meaningful workloads so the extra 4GB of RAM really isn't all that significant. Tasks that somehow use lots of RAM but don't also have a high computational overhead aren't very common.
Most USFF PCs around $100 murder Pis in terms of performance per dollar.
@@MedicSound True. My Rpi 4 struggles to play you tube clips.
However some people are using vast numbers of pis as supercomputers.
@@nosuchthing8 "Supercomputer" is kinda a misnomer because they still don't have more performance than spending the same amount of money on regular PC hardware, but what a lot of those setups are for is developing and testing applications that require a bunch of nodes because the Pi cluster is cheaper than the equivalent amount of full scale hardware if it's something they're doing regularly.
I'm not saying that RPis are bad, just a lot of things people expect them to do they either aren't particularly good at or the task is outside of their capabilities, and if you're in a position where you'd consider x86 for the activity that's more than likely just what you should do and skip over all the SBCs.
This man reviews so much cool stuff 😎. I love this channel
One of the only things that keeps us from going to something like that in the corporate world for cheap user desktops, is Windows Update absolutely clobbering that CPU. Everything else runs plenty fast for non-power users using mostly browser based stuff.
It’s too bad Microsoft can’t get their own OS updater to not be the heaviest load on Win10 machines every month.
I truly enjoy your videos. Not many people can make this subject matter very interesting.
Man your content is right up my street. Again like the s30 this thing is tempting. Great little hub for the price.
The AMD Zen version of this just shipped from Lenovo. Vega graphics. Same 4Gb of soldered RAM. Same internal expansion. These are typically used for remote signage applications.
Been looking for a compact desktop machine for the wife's office to handle business apps and teleconferencing and this little guy looks just about perfect.
This Odyssee might also be an option: th-cam.com/video/ra_oiqAoHAo/w-d-xo.html
And also check out Intel NUC PCs with celeron in it. Sometimes they even get sold used on Ebay ...
Ooo I love the serial ports. Finally a great device for my serial controllers and mouse.
I use the same USB Lenovo mouse with my Desktop system,fabulous hardware.
I really wanted to buy this today but its $150 more now. Only a month after your video posted.
At $129 its very affordable, at $279 not so much if you are just starting a business.
But Thank You for the very informative videos you put out.
Every time I see a vid on this channel, my first thought: _"Is he gonna connect a eGPU to it?"_ 😂😂😂
Very cool, tho. I can wait until they're back in stock.
I would really wanna see this with 8gb's of ram :D
That's the one reason I don't buy one right now. 4gb of RAM is just too little.
@@matthewdavies2057 One should avoid anything has a soldered ram.
For Windows 10, 8GB is a must.
@@matthewdavies2057 is i5 4th gen with 4 gb of ram good for mini pc ? Any insights ? Available at 150$ in here
@@lavanyabaranwal6957 It will work, but not well. Avoid.
Holy cow, that 4k60 playback drops fewer frames than my main PC does.
Mine is from 2013 though. Dang.
2:32 The standard 802.22, exists and is WRAN based on TV whitespace.
Great content!
I have one and am using it as an OPNSense firewall.. works perfectly!
I like the Larkbox Pro, amazing pc for it's size. Just turned one into an emulation station for my Daughter and Grandson for Christmas with 512gb m.2 ssd.
I wish we could run 4k TH-cam on the Raspberry pi
every 4k tv can play youtube on its own hardware so idk why you're wishing for that.
@@thepuzzledsage They may not have a 4k TV. I know I don't own a TV. I watch everything on my PC.
@@harshbarj I don't even own a TV at all lol.
@@thepuzzledsage "every 4k tv" ... well, but none 1440p/ 2160p monitor can.
And it's a big down that the Pi4 doesnt support it.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 all I see are choosing beggars who happen to own high end monitors.
It's a tad on the big side tbh.It's not huge but compared to the pi 4,It's a Bahamut.
Happy holidays ETA and have a blessed 2021
NO NEED TO WATCH: $279 is cheapest version now.
Thank GOD for "serial ports" in a 2019 design...? WTH Lenovo?
No need to watch?
Gaming / vending machines. Money in, money out.
Lots of legacy gear in factorys.
Very good video review. I just got the Intel® Core™ i3 dual core 4 threads 3.90 GHz model for use with my TV. Needed something small, cheap and able to handle 4K.
Great suggestion. Thank you
This is pretty cool. I didn't even know this was a thing. That kind of sums up his channel as a whole though.
Great review !
already sold out, I'm always late to the party :(
The ETA Prime Effect!
For a little media pc this thing seems great. Cheaper than any console all you would need is a little wireless keyboard / touchpad combo and you're in business.
I actually use a Pi 4 as a desktop. I have a “real” laptop that I can use for a “fill-in” device when I need it. The real use of something like this would be a POS system, the size and position of the ports doesn’t really save much in the way of desktop space. I used to sell computer systems, and you really have to honest about what you have planned for a computer like this before you buy it. To expect this to be a “cheap” gaming system would be a huge stretch of the imagination.
I am thinking to use it for my restaurant POS distribution as well by teaming it with a touch screen monitor!
i do the same. rasp pi 400 as main desktop and a win 10 laptop as the fill in.
I don't know if I would pick this one up unless I'm actually doing an IoT project where I need a ton of expansions. For desktop use, I think the J4125 Larkbox Pro is more attractive with comparable single core performance and 50% more multi core performance and 50% more memory, at $160 (1064 CNY), let alone much smaller size and true portability.
Not bad ! Might have to add these into my home lab 🤙
nice video as always
Happy Holidays!
For nearly the price of Windows, you get an almost free PC
Windows costs about 10 bucks. You can easily buy one of those OEM Licenses and name yourself a "builder".
Merry Christmas to you and yours God bless!
Merry Christmas
Would love it if you tested things like in home PC game streaming on these devices. Steamlink for example.
Sole reason I want something like this is for Steamlink. A Pi4 does not cut it w/Cyberpunk.
Would love to see a review of the I3 version in a future video. Priced at $219, if it were able to reliably emulate generation 6 games, which this unit is right on the edge of being able to do, it would make it the best bang for your buck for mid-level emulation.
i have a lenovo think center its a small module that slides rite into the back of the monitor i love it its great !!!!
The price is comparable to a Raspberry pi 4 with nice case, power supply, fancy antenna, USBC to HDMI adapter, mouse and keyboard.
If you could plug in Atari/Sega controllers into those front parallel ports. That would be awesome for retro gaming. Just needs a woodgrain finish on the top heat sink.
Really cool little machine
looks perfect for smart home, nextcloud, home server application. Would love a 2.5" bay though.
Yes, out of this one but the next one up @ $215 with $604 ecoupon on site (w/Tax $234), was floating in & out this weekend on availability but did catch it today. Same specs except processor bumped up to 8th gen i3 8145u (2.10 Ghz /3.90 turbo boost,2 cores 4 threads 4 MB cache) instead of the Celeron and ddr4 2666Mhz ram instead of 2133MHZ. That should boost performance a touch. At this time still showing available. Almost forgot, apparently two network ports as well.
The ETA Prime effect did set in as previously noted, but there was a secondary couple of packages available and I opted for the $279 one which is going for $999 on Amazon, so still a great deal. Been looking for a good Cash Register replacement in a small package and this fit the bill perfectly.Additionally, to help with he financing they break it down, interest free, to about $70 for 4 payments, so better yet...
This would work awesome if you could get it for a NAS controller. Quiet low powered. The USB-C's can be adapted to usb 3's. Currently using a repurposed Hp Elitebook for this purpose.
Great Video as usual.
Most of the boards of units are not available in India. Some of them don't even ship to India.
Nice review video. Would be really great if you could look at some of the higher-end models.
Looks like a giant power brick from a gamer laptop. I love it.
This thing would make a great emulation and media machine to have plugged into your living room tv
I actually have one of these except it is the AMD Athlon version. I also did an experiment with the slot for the 4G add-on card and it turns out that you can actually install another SSD in there so you can actually have up to 3 SSDs. And it only supports up to a 2242.
The design of the box is interesting. Looks like it should be mounted to a wall or a back of a monitor.
Wow. Really impressive
Powerdraw would had been nice to see, as a media PC it would be great as its fanless. I would run it 24/7 as a media PC / game download box
These are now $359 with a 256G SSD but no wifi or bluetooth card. The memory is no longer soldered in, so maybe upgradable? They were apparently dumping the older models for cheap.
They have newer AMD models now, I got this one a few months back at $250, using it in my car, windows 10 in tablet mode is great. It's super solid PC.
Please... Edit the first line of the video description to say it's no longer available since it's no longer available...
Good for turning your bedroom or living room TV into a convenient computing solution.
I was "accidentally" sent the P90 SFF version a few months back. For a small desktop it's not that bad. I handles MTG Arena no problem and I've played FFVII through Steam without any issues. It came with 8gb RAM with a second slot that I added a 4gb stick to. My only real complaint is that it has 2 display ports and one VGA. I'd rather they had either left off a display port or dropped the VGA and added an HDMI port.
I'm always impressed by low cost computing performance. I really don't care as much about high end stuff as much as I do about just how much more cost computing is capable of doing.
Based on the "IoT" label, serial ports, and it's tank-like case, I'm guessing it's designed as an embedded system for industrial use or as a POS.
POS as in Piece Of Shit?
@@natangurfinkel point of sale
@@natangurfinkel I remember one time I went into a Taco Bell and the manager was on the phone with IT having to reboot the PoS system, and I commented the PoS stands for more than just Point-of-Sales.
It is still available, however 359.00 with 256ssd and no wifi. Shoots to 654.00 with a wifi adapter and terabyte of storage. No upgradable ram.
this mini pc seems pretty good for desk workers; as it is a Lenovo Thinkcentre it could become popular with the croporate world
Hey Prime, great video! I had a request, could you try running Breath of the Wild on the M1 Mac via any of the well known emulators? Very Curious. Also, Happy holidays
Looking at this because... I'd like a portable system where I can use my wonderful logitech keyboard for writing on the road. Add a small but nice screen.... this might work!
it cost 2.5X more in my country WITHOUT the peripherals, just bare bone fanless cpu. that's a good deal you have.
But not available at this price anymore in the US... it was just a temporary sale price. The title is misleading because nobody can get one of these for $129
This looks sick
in belgium only 2 models, they are quite highend. ThinkCentre M90n-1
€649,00
536,36 € (excl. btw)
Processor
Intel Core i3-8145U Processor ( 2.10GHz 4MB )
Besturingssysteem
Windows 10 Pro 64
Totaal geheugen
8.0GB PC4-19200 DDR4 Soldered 2666MHz
Vaste schijf
256GB SSD PCIe
Garantie
Three year On-site
AC Adapter
65W
Grafische kaart
Intel UHD Graphics 620
Keyboard
Ultraslim Wireless kit-Keyboard Belgian,UK
WiFi Wireless LAN Adapters
Intel Wireless-AC 9560 2x2 AC+BT
ThinkCentre M90n-1
€789,00
652,07 € (excl. btw)
Intel Core i5-8265U Processor ( 1.60GHz 6MB ) Windows 10 Pro 64
8.0GB PC4-19200 DDR4 Soldered 2666MHz
256GB SSD PCIe
Three year On-site
65W
Intel UHD Graphics 620
Ultraslim Wireless kit-Keyboard Belgian,UK
Intel Wireless-AC 9560 2x2 AC+BT. So before you compare prices, makes sure you compare the exact same model
Love this, would like it running dual boot windows / android myself as a media centre
Wow!!! Very impressed for that PC is perfect for my Dad's office
lpddr4 at 2133mhz is holding this back a big time! .. they should have used normal ddr4 21333mhz or atleast lpdrr4 at more than 3000mhz .. posibally 3800mhz .. lpddr4 is half the bandwidth of ddr4 and that's why many units run at very high speed to compensate and they can do it pretty easy.
About as fast as a Core 2 Duo E8500 which I had back in the day. Pretty interesting that this thing can be had in a headless but otherwise complete package for that price.
Interesting device, and not bad for the price. It’s a long time since I owned a PC with two serial ports, not much call for them nowadays, in a home environment at least.
When I look on the Lenovo site it says "This product no longer available". Bummer.
hi eta I think a staple for testing GameCube emulation should be melee in your list since it has such a huge scene playing online using dolphin
This is yet another example of windows X86 having more refined graphics support than open source SBC & OS. The i3 version of this would be a handy no nonsense tool, but this one is too weak to buy new today. $219 for i3 is a head scratcher, I am writing this on a year old $300 Ryzen 5 laptop from lenovo -all that and a bag of chips.
Until windows and X86 get a clue I am focused on my M1 MBA and run all old software in emulation. For Open source control RPie -there is some really cool stuff coming for the compute module.
If I can still find it at this price, it will immediately replace my plan to get RPi 400 except for projects that need I/O pins.
The $279 i3-8145U M90n IoT seems to have a lot more going for it and at least includes a wireless Keyboard and mouse... The tested Celeron version benchmark's seem comparable to Core2Duo machines from about 10 years ago. How many users would really want an obsolescent $144 C2D box with a thrift store grade wired keyboard and mouse today? We have about a half dozen working retired C2D era machines in storage waiting for the recycler!
Looks NICE :)
ToastedFart. What a great username
I would love to see you have a go with the top end i3 and I believe they will release an AMD one soon. It could be fun to use the m.2 slot to put in an external gpu. Thanks for the great content!
The Zen based M75n just shipped. The reason everyone is seeing "out of stock" is because Lenovo just did a huge coupon campaign and cut the prices dramatically. This ended up being cheaper than some of the recent Intel SBC's. I think Lenovo is onto something.
Annnnnnd its gone! The ETA effect is at it again! Good news is that the i3 version is now $215 and there is a military/student/first responder discount too.
Dood that’s froogin’ nuts!
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protip: moving your mouse and having the youtube interface causes frames to drop
For machines like this i think you should test League of Legends and something like Pubg Lite, nice vid btw
Interesting little computer. Pretty cool deal! But how do you get a disc (for an external drive) or card of Windows X for if you need to reinstall it?
This seems like an ideal PC for a PC CRT VGA monitor @ 480p or 720p
One thing about the possibility to upgrade wifi. Lenovo is notorious for locking out other network cards at a bios/firmware level
What's the point of giving a full Windows license to something branded as an IoT device?