The system can also be powered via that USB-C port. There's also an I/O board that gives you DC power in capabilities (9-36VDC) it also gives you two additional serial ports and 4 * DI/DO ports, and two additional PoE out ports too, based on RTL8153B. (part# 4XH0X77236) it connects and powers the device via that USB-C connector. There is an AMD version M75n IoT as well. This was a great deal on a normally much more expensive device. Currently using one as PFSense with the updated drivers. I installed a second SSD so I can boot into the original windows SSD to update the firmware. If anyone knows how to install fwupd in pfSense, let me know. Also, only the i3 comes with dual NIC, the Celeron does not. (Disclosure: I work for Lenovo.)
Does it accept power over PoE? - I would love something like this as a Kubernetes worker node, but it should be even smaller & come with Ubuntu, booting to windows to update firmware is... bit of a hassle.
"Translation: I lose USB serial cables" I've always joked that I could make a fortune by setting up a little lemonade stand outside of a datacenter and selling USB serial adaptors, DB9 to RJ45 adapters, and C13 to NEMA adapters (for charging your laptop from a PDU), screw drivers, velcro tape, and rack nut tools . I bet I could charge $100 for any one of them
I was watching videos on old industrial mini PCs and decided to do a search for this very unit. I bought that exact model with mouse, keyboard and WiFi card four years ago for $265 US. A good deal I thought. I had it connected to my TV for light browsing and installed a second M.2, a 1TB to use as backup for a few movies and all my photos. It runs Windows 11 Pro currently and I removed the second drive to use as a boot drive for an ancient ASUS H97 Plus. Windows 11 runs quite slowly with 4GB of RAM but it's still useful, although I have no hardware that needs a com port. The USB-C display dongle allowed me to hook up a portable monitor from Amazon.
There's another reason to use real serial ports instead of USB convertors. Allot of USB convertors don't have RS232 handshaking implemented. Which is a issue if your equipment actually uses these extra lines. Your average switch or router console port won't need it but I ran into this problem when programming microcontrollers.
These IoT devices are getting really interesting both for industrial use and for home tinkering. This model could serve a triple purpose at my home: firewall, wifi router and NAS.
I think this is pretty great for laboratory equipment, which is often connected trough Ethernet or serial. Having 2 Ethernet ports mean you don't need a switch.
i looked at the zbox and such and those realtek nics lock up and cause problems based on reviews, this basically being the same setup with realtek nics unless someone knows of GOOD usb nics
These would be great for use in restaurants as an order display, with serial button control and printer, and fanless they wouldn't get all junked up. The other option would be digital signage or kiosk displays with simple inputs. Another idea would be weather stations or sensor logging in a remote location, with such low power you could run it off a small solar setup and ping your server with data using mobile data connections. They would run some stripped-down Linux easily. Routing is probably not the best.
Re-watching this makes me want this for a remote console system to access switches. Hang 1 NIC directly off the firewall & then connect 1 console port to your core switch. It’s really a sweet little box.
This thing is an integrator's dream - I just picked up an m75n IOT for a fuel management system project along with the IOBOX. 4in4out DIDO, Watchdog timer, MORE serial ports (that also support 422 and 485), and more ethernet (with PoE out) - plus it can all live outside - just a ton of options for this!
1. These units can be configured with Core i5 quad core and also 8GB RAM. 2. There are 3 Ethernet configs: single Realtek, dual Realtek, Intel + Realtek. There is no option for dual Intel for some strange reason. 3. There is an AMD version called M75n-IoT which comes with AMD Athlon Silver 3050e dual core + 4GB RAM + single Realtek gigabit (only choice).
I also purchased it from Levono at the $200 + tax price tag (free shipping). Great little computer that is perfect for web surfing, emails and video calls. The fan less design works and obviously is noiseless. I plugged in a 1 TB external SSD into the rear USB-C port to store all of our files. I prefer a natural keyboard, but the included keyboard with number pad works great for our needs. I agree that I would have preferred a lower price and bought the unit without the mouse/keyboard.
On a tangent, i recently ordered one of the Lenovo M75Q-Gen2, with 8 core Ryzen 7 4750GE, for only $515 direct from lenovo(everything was base, even removed the keyboard and mouse) but for an 8 core micro PC that is upgradable, thats actually a really good price for current generation hardware, makes me hopefully we'll finally see the launch of 5000 series APUs
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I think sale is till going on if you want to pick one up, though, for content, i'd almost say wait for 5000 series.. But if you'd like to pick one up, HONEY missed the discount code, but edge caught it(co worker bought it before i did and told me about edge) The main downside is that the lead time was 5 weeks so i'll get back to you in March Just doublechecked, 'coupon' is THINKDESK45 and an 8 core can be had for as cheap as $487 with min settings and removing the keyboard/mouse this means 4gb single stick of RAM and 500GB HDD, no WiFI and windows 10 home
Low power consumption + passive to me means easy to solar power, minimum battery impact overnight, and 100% reliable cooling that can't fail longer term. Nice. Thinking of setting up a light weight machine on a remote property to run some lights, microphones, sensors, cameras, etc and ship the data back to my desk/NAS with local buffering. Maybe chuck a 2TB NVMe stick in there with the smaller OS one. Neat. I don't have a full design in mind yet, but low power is good for winter or with solar damaged/covered/stolen and ONLY on battery power. I doubt I can get it for that price, but it or something similar is on my radar.
Perfect for home video, especially with the serial since high end TVs, Projectors and Audio Receivers are still managed with RS232, fast networking for both direct to TV streaming and accessing remote storage and support for multiple NVME/SATA M.2 SSDs means you have a lot of local storage for media.
Yea. Sales/ stock varies. This was end of year but thousands available through Lenovo directly and through their ebay store. Hoping it comes back again soon.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Since this unit has come out - it has bait and switch pricing with all the youtubers saying wow $200 system... in NZ you can only get it for 1000NZD or more.
Also, there's a lot of different serial-to-USB interface chips (FT232, CH340, PL2000something) and they have various driver issues and not all manufacturers implement complete feature set of a serial port.
I actually bought three of em when the i3 version went for under 200 bucks, to add to two of the 145 dollar celeron versions I'd already picked up a couple days earlier. The price/performance for these things is just out of this world for a brand new piece of kit, at least at the price point they'd had them offered at. Un-friggin-believable. So many options, from creating your own routers with dual wan failover (LTE and ethernet even), to running an always on plex server (coffee lake igpu transcoding is pretty stelar imo, and saves me putting a gpu in my truenas system system by accessing everything over the network), managing both my network switches... heck, I feel like I'm only just getting started. I've toyed with the idea of hacking another nic onto the secondary nvme slot, maybe something multi-gigabit to see what kind of performance it's really capable of... Exciting stuff!!!
The soldered on RAM is a good thing on the IOT side - just less chance of connection failure. I didn't catch if they use ECC, I guess not with that type of CPU :/
5:15 - I think this cover was made because of regulations. For example european IEC 61010-1 regulation about "Outer surface of enclosure touched unintentionally" says, that in case of metal parts maximum allowable temperature is 65'C. For plastic that temperature is higher (85'C, because plastic transfers heat slower and maybe has lower specyfic heat).
I think if you want to put hotspot manager, router and firewall with mikrotik, I think this device is a good candidate, just configure it and put it to the customer premises.
I want to buy one as a router but I’m not able to find one on eBay in Germany for under 720€ :( Anyway: great find! Didn’t knew about those! Maybe I’m going to find one in the future!
This system looks SERIOUSLY awesome for a gateway/firewall device. I didn't even actually know about the pfSense (CE/Plus) fiasco until watching this video, and now I'm considering migrationg to OPNSense! Either way, pfSense, or OPNSense, this system looks sick. The CPU is very beefy for the price point, and I LOVE passive systems like this! The seriously awesome USB ports has me wondering... what novel ways could we use those ports? I totally agree with the assessment of this being an x86 Raspberry Pi alternative!
This now comes with 4G LTE connectivity. I will be installing these for digital displays on moving vehicles, anyone have feedback on these with 4G LTE? Only downloading up to 2min of HD video per week, on loop on a CMS, that’ll fit with a mobile data package
Check out the Compulabs Fitlet2. Runs a bit slower but can be optioned with quad core, standard SO-DIMM, expansion cards include serial (extra RS-232, RS-422), SFP, 2x1GbE (bringing the total to 4x1GbE), and other options.
This is an interesting device, but surprised how little it takes to get people rushing to go to purchase one. The lack of upgradability negates so many of the potential benefits of the design IMO.
$200 at the end of december on lenovo shop? Whaat? That CPU retail price is $286 on Intel website... For now price is around $1000. Thats Internet Of Expensive Things, but that is very special device. Passive cooling is awesome with perfomance and storage options like this makes it very special device. You can make pretty serious home server with RAID.
I have this unit, but it sure as heck wasn't $200. Once you set it to the i3, and win10 pro (because who would use home for an iot device? You can't set policies on home...) we're nowhere near $200 anymore =) I replaced the 128GB SSD with a 22x42 512GB, and stuck an evo 970 1tb into the second slot. Works perfectly fine, the only tricky bit is that you'll have to clone the original SSD if you want boot to actually work.
Nice box, shame about the ram. I have an atom base industrial controller acting as a security recorder etc. (6 serial ports, nice) It needs updating as it's limited to 4gig - oops, same limit, so I'll keep looking.
saw the first minute of the video, rushed to ebay... yeah... 200$... mwah-hah-hah... cheapest was 719 Euro... ^_^ you watered my mouth, but I have to stay hungry...
Why would the fanless, noiseless design matter if you're going to be using it to configure a managed switch in a server room. My experience with servers is you need earplugs around them, unless things have changed a lot in 15 years.
That's certainly true, but once you add in 128gb of storage, storage that's anywhere near as performant or with nvme longevity, a power supply (or poe hat), maybe a case if you dont have a 3d printer, etc, you're not saving quite that much, and you dont have to worry about any of the additional legwork certain applications might require were the pi to be used. Dont get me wrong, I friggin love the pi4's, but I dont really see them as filling the same duties as these do (well, I'm using the two for quite different purposes anyway lol)
@@Banner1986 - I am thinking of running Kubernetes controllers on 3 pi4s. - I was looking for 3 x86 worker nodes, but although its small, it could be smaller.
Just looked at mine - there are three threaded holes on the back, so it's definitely possible, but youd need a pretty unique plate to do so. I'm sure you could fabricate your own if you didnt want to purchase Lenovo's custom one
Why would someone design such an nice little device and then completly ruin it with that Lenovo power brick connector?! This thing begs for a 24v DC barrel jack (or removable terminal block) + ground wire.
Realtek can work ok for pfSense with a driver upgrade. I still prefer Intel, but a lot of issues people have with Realtek is from using an ancient out of box driver
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I know. I have updated the driver from their forum. Never as fast as the intel stuff. I just want something I plug in, install, and it works
It's not really IoT if you can't run it off a generic 12 V DC supply. All I'm seeing is a crappy proprietary square jack which means you'll need a dedicated power brick. Not nice.
Yea NZ is a tough market. These go on sale periodically. The higher-end version that William reviewed for us in 2020 was only $419 then, now it is $649. Lenovo moves pricing around a lot. Just need to watch it. But NZ is more expensive.
Lenovo changes sales from time to time. Not much we can do about it. We showed how these were $200 and sold in decent quantities (1700+ sold just on that Lenovo eBay listing)
Anybody told you that you speak to much? Make your videos shorter and go to the point faster. Dont need a 23 min video to review something like this. Great ideas but terrible composition a lot of fast talking and nonsense words that have nothing to do with the product, time consuming and tiring video.
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The system can also be powered via that USB-C port. There's also an I/O board that gives you DC power in capabilities (9-36VDC) it also gives you two additional serial ports and 4 * DI/DO ports, and two additional PoE out ports too, based on RTL8153B. (part# 4XH0X77236) it connects and powers the device via that USB-C connector. There is an AMD version M75n IoT as well. This was a great deal on a normally much more expensive device. Currently using one as PFSense with the updated drivers. I installed a second SSD so I can boot into the original windows SSD to update the firmware. If anyone knows how to install fwupd in pfSense, let me know. Also, only the i3 comes with dual NIC, the Celeron does not. (Disclosure: I work for Lenovo.)
Very cool devices!
Does it accept power over PoE? - I would love something like this as a Kubernetes worker node, but it should be even smaller & come with Ubuntu, booting to windows to update firmware is... bit of a hassle.
"Translation: I lose USB serial cables" I've always joked that I could make a fortune by setting up a little lemonade stand outside of a datacenter and selling USB serial adaptors, DB9 to RJ45 adapters, and C13 to NEMA adapters (for charging your laptop from a PDU), screw drivers, velcro tape, and rack nut tools . I bet I could charge $100 for any one of them
Ha!
I've been to organisations where they had vending machines with mice, cables, chargers, etc.
Could be done at Data centres as well I suppose.
And fiber cleaning tool please
I was watching videos on old industrial mini PCs and decided to do a search for this very unit. I bought that exact model with mouse, keyboard and WiFi card four years ago for $265 US. A good deal I thought. I had it connected to my TV for light browsing and installed a second M.2, a 1TB to use as backup for a few movies and all my photos.
It runs Windows 11 Pro currently and I removed the second drive to use as a boot drive for an ancient ASUS H97 Plus.
Windows 11 runs quite slowly with 4GB of RAM but it's still useful, although I have no hardware that needs a com port. The USB-C display dongle allowed me to hook up a portable monitor from Amazon.
There's another reason to use real serial ports instead of USB convertors. Allot of USB convertors don't have RS232 handshaking implemented. Which is a issue if your equipment actually uses these extra lines. Your average switch or router console port won't need it but I ran into this problem when programming microcontrollers.
Good point!
These IoT devices are getting really interesting both for industrial use and for home tinkering. This model could serve a triple purpose at my home: firewall, wifi router and NAS.
Patrick: So how many THREADS does the STH Hoodies have :p
It's definitely multi-threaded
How many Numa nodes are there?
I think this is pretty great for laboratory equipment, which is often connected trough Ethernet or serial. Having 2 Ethernet ports mean you don't need a switch.
Pfsense inner nerd goes brrrrr
you beat me to it
First thing I thought, too.
@@ampanman2000 got so excited until realtek
i looked at the zbox and such and those realtek nics lock up and cause problems based on reviews, this basically being the same setup with realtek nics unless someone knows of GOOD usb nics
These would be great for use in restaurants as an order display, with serial button control and printer, and fanless they wouldn't get all junked up. The other option would be digital signage or kiosk displays with simple inputs. Another idea would be weather stations or sensor logging in a remote location, with such low power you could run it off a small solar setup and ping your server with data using mobile data connections. They would run some stripped-down Linux easily. Routing is probably not the best.
Restraints?
Re-watching this makes me want this for a remote console system to access switches. Hang 1 NIC directly off the firewall & then connect 1 console port to your core switch. It’s really a sweet little box.
This thing is an integrator's dream - I just picked up an m75n IOT for a fuel management system project along with the IOBOX. 4in4out DIDO, Watchdog timer, MORE serial ports (that also support 422 and 485), and more ethernet (with PoE out) - plus it can all live outside - just a ton of options for this!
1. These units can be configured with Core i5 quad core and also 8GB RAM.
2. There are 3 Ethernet configs: single Realtek, dual Realtek, Intel + Realtek. There is no option for dual Intel for some strange reason.
3. There is an AMD version called M75n-IoT which comes with AMD Athlon Silver 3050e dual core + 4GB RAM + single Realtek gigabit (only choice).
I also purchased it from Levono at the $200 + tax price tag (free shipping). Great little computer that is perfect for web surfing, emails and video calls. The fan less design works and obviously is noiseless. I plugged in a 1 TB external SSD into the rear USB-C port to store all of our files. I prefer a natural keyboard, but the included keyboard with number pad works great for our needs. I agree that I would have preferred a lower price and bought the unit without the mouse/keyboard.
On a tangent, i recently ordered one of the Lenovo M75Q-Gen2, with 8 core Ryzen 7 4750GE, for only $515 direct from lenovo(everything was base, even removed the keyboard and mouse) but for an 8 core micro PC that is upgradable, thats actually a really good price for current generation hardware, makes me hopefully we'll finally see the launch of 5000 series APUs
Oh that is awesome!
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I think sale is till going on if you want to pick one up, though, for content, i'd almost say wait for 5000 series.. But if you'd like to pick one up, HONEY missed the discount code, but edge caught it(co worker bought it before i did and told me about edge)
The main downside is that the lead time was 5 weeks so i'll get back to you in March
Just doublechecked, 'coupon' is THINKDESK45 and an 8 core can be had for as cheap as $487 with min settings and removing the keyboard/mouse this means 4gb single stick of RAM and 500GB HDD, no WiFI and windows 10 home
Low power consumption + passive to me means easy to solar power, minimum battery impact overnight, and 100% reliable cooling that can't fail longer term. Nice. Thinking of setting up a light weight machine on a remote property to run some lights, microphones, sensors, cameras, etc and ship the data back to my desk/NAS with local buffering. Maybe chuck a 2TB NVMe stick in there with the smaller OS one. Neat. I don't have a full design in mind yet, but low power is good for winter or with solar damaged/covered/stolen and ONLY on battery power. I doubt I can get it for that price, but it or something similar is on my radar.
Perfect for home video, especially with the serial since high end TVs, Projectors and Audio Receivers are still managed with RS232, fast networking for both direct to TV streaming and accessing remote storage and support for multiple NVME/SATA M.2 SSDs means you have a lot of local storage for media.
I like the way you always sneak in your merc into these videos.
Linus taught me that.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo well you are far more effective and efficient at it. Like comparing a 80 plus bronze power supply with a 80 plus titanium.
"This is a $200 system." Goes to Lenovo....$449.
$1,379.99 at Staples Canada :(
They were on sale for 200 a month ago not anymore.
Yea. Sales/ stock varies. This was end of year but thousands available through Lenovo directly and through their ebay store. Hoping it comes back again soon.
Thanks for driving the price up, buddy. 😉
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Since this unit has come out - it has bait and switch pricing with all the youtubers saying wow $200 system... in NZ you can only get it for 1000NZD or more.
Also, there's a lot of different serial-to-USB interface chips (FT232, CH340, PL2000something) and they have various driver issues and not all manufacturers implement complete feature set of a serial port.
I actually bought three of em when the i3 version went for under 200 bucks, to add to two of the 145 dollar celeron versions I'd already picked up a couple days earlier.
The price/performance for these things is just out of this world for a brand new piece of kit, at least at the price point they'd had them offered at. Un-friggin-believable. So many options, from creating your own routers with dual wan failover (LTE and ethernet even), to running an always on plex server (coffee lake igpu transcoding is pretty stelar imo, and saves me putting a gpu in my truenas system system by accessing everything over the network), managing both my network switches... heck, I feel like I'm only just getting started.
I've toyed with the idea of hacking another nic onto the secondary nvme slot, maybe something multi-gigabit to see what kind of performance it's really capable of...
Exciting stuff!!!
The strongest reason for com ports is the assigned Com Port number will not change after a reboot, which can happen with a USB adapter.
The soldered on RAM is a good thing on the IOT side - just less chance of connection failure. I didn't catch if they use ECC, I guess not with that type of CPU :/
I seriously wish that Lenovo had offered dual nics in the M75nano IOT with a 4350GE(Or the Zen2 equivelant of the Athlon 3050e 5w)
OH look a new firewall Box :P Good Video Patrick !
A lot of isolate machinery in factories are still communicating/being programmed through serial ports
5:15 - I think this cover was made because of regulations. For example european IEC 61010-1 regulation about "Outer surface of enclosure touched unintentionally" says, that in case of metal parts maximum allowable temperature is 65'C. For plastic that temperature is higher (85'C, because plastic transfers heat slower and maybe has lower specyfic heat).
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I think if you want to put hotspot manager, router and firewall with mikrotik, I think this device is a good candidate, just configure it and put it to the customer premises.
I want to buy one as a router but I’m not able to find one on eBay in Germany for under 720€ :(
Anyway: great find! Didn’t knew about those! Maybe I’m going to find one in the future!
There are MANY options on Aliexpress that have all these features and have 4-6 1Gbit ports. Even with i5 or Ryzen although they are harder to find.
Those serial ports would be great too for console/SNMP of the UPSs
Great point there!
Having COM ports is perfect for industrial application.
This system looks SERIOUSLY awesome for a gateway/firewall device. I didn't even actually know about the pfSense (CE/Plus) fiasco until watching this video, and now I'm considering migrationg to OPNSense! Either way, pfSense, or OPNSense, this system looks sick. The CPU is very beefy for the price point, and I LOVE passive systems like this! The seriously awesome USB ports has me wondering... what novel ways could we use those ports? I totally agree with the assessment of this being an x86 Raspberry Pi alternative!
I always look at these, think it's perfect for what I want, then I look at the local market and whelp :(
This now comes with 4G LTE connectivity. I will be installing these for digital displays on moving vehicles, anyone have feedback on these with 4G LTE? Only downloading up to 2min of HD video per week, on loop on a CMS, that’ll fit with a mobile data package
Check out the Compulabs Fitlet2. Runs a bit slower but can be optioned with quad core, standard SO-DIMM, expansion cards include serial (extra RS-232, RS-422), SFP, 2x1GbE (bringing the total to 4x1GbE), and other options.
Hoping to have the ODROID-H2+ with the 4x 2.5GbE H2 Net card any day now.
This is an interesting device, but surprised how little it takes to get people rushing to go to purchase one. The lack of upgradability negates so many of the potential benefits of the design IMO.
$200 at the end of december on lenovo shop? Whaat? That CPU retail price is $286 on Intel website... For now price is around $1000. Thats Internet Of Expensive Things, but that is very special device. Passive cooling is awesome with perfomance and storage options like this makes it very special device. You can make pretty serious home server with RAID.
any plans on reviewing the asrock industrial 4x4 4800u? or the passiv embessed cpu version? look pretty promising
We may do this, but very busy soon with Milan/ Ice.
I have this unit, but it sure as heck wasn't $200. Once you set it to the i3, and win10 pro (because who would use home for an iot device? You can't set policies on home...) we're nowhere near $200 anymore =)
I replaced the 128GB SSD with a 22x42 512GB, and stuck an evo 970 1tb into the second slot. Works perfectly fine, the only tricky bit is that you'll have to clone the original SSD if you want boot to actually work.
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I still don't get the serial port thing. Yes, it's neat if you want to incorporate a device from the 90's. If.
There are a lot of industrial machines that use serial ports in the world.
Nice box, shame about the ram. I have an atom base industrial controller acting as a security recorder etc. (6 serial ports, nice) It needs updating as it's limited to 4gig - oops, same limit, so I'll keep looking.
Nice R5 28-70 F2 combo
$200 in WHAT UNIVERSE??? I feel like this must be from another reality, as just a year later, these have INCREASED to $400 to $700!
Soooo CarPC and/or mobile LTE router/hotspot?
saw the first minute of the video, rushed to ebay... yeah... 200$... mwah-hah-hah... cheapest was 719 Euro... ^_^ you watered my mouth, but I have to stay hungry...
Hopefully new deal soon.
Why would the fanless, noiseless design matter if you're going to be using it to configure a managed switch in a server room. My experience with servers is you need earplugs around them, unless things have changed a lot in 15 years.
Perfect for a silent desktop computer
The plastic is there because its illegal to sell devices that can burn you, the shroud covers them for legal issues
just LTE? 5G not possible?
Wonder how this would fare as a pfsense box?
I can find only 75n's for that price, 90n's with less connectivity or new ones for about Euro 800 now... 😞
Oh dear, that CPU has AVX2! That's crazy.
looks like a slightly beefier qotom unit
i mean you can desloder the ram and solder diff chips with higher cap
Thumbnail makes it look like a Hakko product.
Neat, but for iot projects this is 4x the cost of a pi4+case.
That's certainly true, but once you add in 128gb of storage, storage that's anywhere near as performant or with nvme longevity, a power supply (or poe hat), maybe a case if you dont have a 3d printer, etc, you're not saving quite that much, and you dont have to worry about any of the additional legwork certain applications might require were the pi to be used.
Dont get me wrong, I friggin love the pi4's, but I dont really see them as filling the same duties as these do (well, I'm using the two for quite different purposes anyway lol)
@@Banner1986 - I am thinking of running Kubernetes controllers on 3 pi4s. - I was looking for 3 x86 worker nodes, but although its small, it could be smaller.
Does the back plate allow for wall mounting?
Just looked at mine - there are three threaded holes on the back, so it's definitely possible, but youd need a pretty unique plate to do so. I'm sure you could fabricate your own if you didnt want to purchase Lenovo's custom one
@@Banner1986 okay. Once these go back to this price range I will get one to mock something up.
dual nics doesn't mean shit if it's not intel. yeah it's $200 but, i'd pay $50 more for intel NICs.
Why would someone design such an nice little device and then completly ruin it with that Lenovo power brick connector?!
This thing begs for a 24v DC barrel jack (or removable terminal block) + ground wire.
That, and 8gb of ram.
lenovo site say's its not available
Needs 8gb and intel Lans to be pfsense material
Realtek can work ok for pfSense with a driver upgrade. I still prefer Intel, but a lot of issues people have with Realtek is from using an ancient out of box driver
4gb is more than enough unless you want to run Suricata
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I know. I have updated the driver from their forum. Never as fast as the intel stuff. I just want something I plug in, install, and it works
It's not really IoT if you can't run it off a generic 12 V DC supply. All I'm seeing is a crappy proprietary square jack which means you'll need a dedicated power brick. Not nice.
Iot things should have linux though as most windows dists are just crap, they have become safer...but windows and security is really..
can not buy anymore. what a shame.
$350-$500 on freaking Ebay.
Absolute-infected device as firewall?! Are you kidding?
Cheapest one I'm seeing is $359.00.
These go on/off sale every other week it seems like. My guess is check for next week's Lenovo sale/ coupons to come out.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I am so ready!
I don't know where you are finding these deals but they are are non existent in my reality. I guess maybe one day/someday they will run a sale again
We have a Great Deals forum as mentioned in the video: forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/lenovo-m90n-iot-200.31265/
Not $200 dollars...
lol meanwhile in germany 850USD ~700Eur...
200$ and now 700-1200€ atm :/
Lenovo's official eBay store had these for $215 so 700-1200€ even with import duties and forwarding/ shipping seems extremely high.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo thank you. I checked lenovo.com/de-de/ (i‘m from Germany) and the m90n wasn‘t available. Have to check this again.
Pff it's 599 now T_T
windows 10 home ? warranty ? no thanks
I can only find 1000NZD units in the IOT since the beginning so clickbait.
Yea NZ is a tough market. These go on sale periodically. The higher-end version that William reviewed for us in 2020 was only $419 then, now it is $649. Lenovo moves pricing around a lot. Just need to watch it. But NZ is more expensive.
What's the point of reviewing something that you cannot buy?
These go on sale like this periodically.
A 23 minute video that could have been 8 min... downvoted.
4:16 and still nothing useful said. I could skim the article faster than this... In fact, I think I will...
Such a clickbait! It costs 700€ man not 200 Bucks. Dislike
Lenovo changes sales from time to time. Not much we can do about it. We showed how these were $200 and sold in decent quantities (1700+ sold just on that Lenovo eBay listing)
Anybody told you that you speak to much? Make your videos shorter and go to the point faster. Dont need a 23 min video to review something like this. Great ideas but terrible composition a lot of fast talking and nonsense words that have nothing to do with the product, time consuming and tiring video.