The Fixing it Forward Odyssey Blew Up! (Episode 8)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- On the same day Jennifer picked up her new Odyssey, the engine seized up on the highway. This is my worst nightmare. After all that work and effort, the exact thing I didn’t want to happen, happened.
So what do you do in this situation? Fix it, which is exactly what I do in this episode. I replace the engine in the 2005 Honda Odyssey as well as fix up a few other minor issues and I get Jennifer back on the road ASAP.
I will be making a separate video tearing down the old engine to see what went wrong. Right now, I need to get Jennifer back on the road.
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Eric It's nice to see they're still people with integrity and pride like you . I didn't know there was a drain hole for the valley in the J series engine , thanks for the info .
I have a 2000 Accord with 333340 miles on it and 160K on a rebuilt engine . I do all repairs and maintenance watching your videos .
Thanks for all you do
An idea, maybe the guy that was with Jennifer (BF?) could assist ERIC with the engine removal, any parts cleaning, gofering etc.
This would be a great way for the donor recipient to give back..
@@bhaebe6671 I get the feeling that Eric prefers to work by himself.
Eric, just for this episode, deserves 500K new subscribers.
Thank you Eric for being so kind and spending the extra hours away from your busy work.
This Honda van under Eric's warranty is way better than Honda dealership!
Absolutely
@@sarahendrix3132 ily
Eric you are a good human being, thanks for a great video, this planet we live on needs more dudes like you. I hope your business is blessed due to your generosity and kudos to those who donated also.
4:13 Seeing a car lifted away from the engine and transmission then lowered back down 27:49 never gets old! Nice!
Good job. You are a credit to humanity. And we need that so much in these trying times.
If only more people were like you. If I lived near you and had something I couldn't fix myself, I would bring my vehicle to you and tip the hell out of the work you would have done.
I'm a VCM believer. The extra fuel consumption is minimal, glad u are using the best one out there. I have been using the VCMUZZLER II for about 4 years on my 08 EX-L....love it...great video as always brother, looking forward to dissecting the engine.
That vehicle just does not want to leave you, Eric.
You are a class act, Eric. Not only are you providing a great service to we backyard mechanics, but you are improving the lives of those in need. God bless, brother, and keep up the good work!
God Bless you and your wife Eric. Amazing what you can do. If Honda would have just left it alone like the 3.5 j series on my first Gen 03 pilot, we wouldn't have these worries or issues.
Wish Honda would create a shut off since they didn't put in a button to disable eco (my '10 v6 accord coupe doesn't have one at least) until the 12 v6 accord coupe.
Goodbye 271hp if I don't stop it on mine asap. Talk about the Honda v6s beating the transmission to death, with vcm a lot more so. Honda makes the best engines in the world. They should not go into trying to save a few miles of gasoline by sacrificing engine performance and basic function/ reliability.
I need to muzzle the vcm on my v6 accord Pronto so appreciate you showing the option to run it straight instead of ordering the mod. Love Honda and vtec, hate vcm technology. It wears the rear piston rings out way before their time (Honda has a TSB on it and have replaced many sets of rings. It's a deeper problem so thats like putting a bandaid right? Looks like it did more than that on your 3.5 L if it just died completely. They sacrificed the engine for stupid green eco bs. Thanks for sharing this awesome content and knowledge! Continued wishes for safety & health!
Amazing work Eric! You have the best video series on TH-cam in my opinion. Stayed up late just to watch this one when I saw the notification, I like you couldn't sleep without making sure Jennifer got the van back 😅. Please keep fixing it forward going!
Great Job Eric 👍 You are a saint! Your Honda experience really pays off. Lucky thing the power steering hose issue showed up before you gave back the van! I laughed when you took off the gloves! I experienced that FIRST HAND! 😆
That is very awesome of you Eric, you are way too nice bro, and Jennifer is lucky to have a person like you who gave her the van or they would've been going through dealer V2 lol. This is exactly why I started watching you way back in your old little shop, and you had your long flowing hair 🤙😄
That's a nice impact. Gets the job done quick. I have an 05 odyssey and quickly installed the vcm kit after joining a fb ody group. Great video under a bad circumstances.
Does it kill the battery at all ? I leave mys park 3days a week without starting since iam out of town for work ..
@@mugensohc2.271 i don't have this vcm kit. Mine has a dial that you manually adjust according to the season of weather. I've worked on my ody for a week straight without starting it and it started back up just fine. Hopefully my answer helps you
@@mugensohc2.271 no issues in my experience
Sweet, I didn't know you brought back fixing it forward. I got to go back and watch all the videos on this one. Thanks!
Holy cow. What a crazy failure. VCM sucks. Just helped a buddy change transmission fluid on his 2016 because the VCM transmission operations (lock / unlock converter) cooked the fluid. It was like water, no viscosity at all, constantly slipping. Good on you for fixing her van!
Edit: my buddy's van had 75K miles... He bought it used. For some reason the nationwide used car dealer advised that he needed a new transmission (not a warranty item) since "the fluid is good for 100K." Lol.
Honda automatic transmission fluid should be changed every 30K or so, not every 100K. Also the VCM had nothing to do with this engine failure as you'll see in next weeks video. Be sure to tune in. Thanks for the comment.
I've grown with this channel over the last 7 years, quite amazing. Nothing on tv or Netflix comes close to the feeling we all get when that notification pops up from ETCG. One recommendation when editing, can you lower the db or volume of the impact. It's like when your laying In bed at night watching tv then one of those loud ass commercials comes on that startles you and shit.
Thank you! As for the editing, I like to leave that in. Mozart did something similar to keep the audience awake during a concert. Not saying I'm him, but my videos do tend to get long sometimes. Thanks for the comment.
@@ericthecarguygood morning. Now that I think more into it, the impact sound is also immersive and gives the viewer the impression their in shop with you.
My heart dropped when you took off the valve covers man…I know you’re a good guy Eric
Way to go Eric. Very nice you spent your own time on the car and helped Jennifer out. Cudos!!!
the sign of a mechanic that loves its job...its how it rolls and lay on the floor while its working ... good job!!!
Yes nice job Eric. Enjoyed every minute. Thanks for the tip using the air hammer on the power steering screw nut . Total satisfaction for you .👍🇺🇸
I know when she called you, your heart sank. I just hope Jennifer realizes that you are an upstanding guy and wouldn't have given her a knowingly bad motor. Let's keep our fingers crossed for many years of trouble free driving. Now, lets see what happened to the other motor.
He disabled whatever system caused the first incident so it will probably be fine.
I imagine Jennifer does realize that Eric would not give her a van knowing it had a bad engine. Car salesmen do that sort of thing but not so much People trying to help.
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Good work, Eric. That’s a lot of hours in that thing.
You know things aren't good when your Honda J35 sounds like a Mercedes-Benz OM617. Good on you for looking after her though, it's not something everyone would do and you're a great guy for it!
Came for the blown engine, stayed for the time lapse music👍🏽🔥
What a great mechanic. A true pro. Thank you sir.
Working on GM W-Bodies the engine/transmission is removed the same way. All electrical can be disconnected and by removing the upper strut tower bolts it’s very easy to service. I have made a cart with wheels to put the cradle on and move around the shop. PS and AC can stay in the car. But for putting the assembly back in I use threaded rods for the frame bolts also this makes it easy if you need a little more room to reach things and the bolts don’t have enough threads. Just remember to replace the rod’s with bolts before finishing. 😊
Unfortunately, there was no room to sneak the AC compressor by when lifting the van, or I would have done it that way. I've had plans to build a car similar to yours, but I don't really have the space to store it once I make it. Thanks for the comment.
You have a kind heart, way to go!
(I guess the saying goes, "we fix it right because we fix it twice!)
Eric - I replaced the same high pressure line on my ‘06 and it was stuck in the same spot! After banging my head against the wall I finally realized I could just bend and break the line, slip a wrench on it and loosen the nut. It’s such a tight spot to work in. Could also cut the line with cutters if I had large enough ones.
Eric, You are the BEST....GOD Bless you.
SORRY that your replacement engine betrayed you! You did a manly job on re-re-installing the next engine, though.
LOVE the choice of music for the time lapse!
Nice to see the inner workings most take for granted. Thanks Eric!
Gave up trying to keep the alignment with the subframe and body etc. I just tell my frontend guy what's been happening so he's aware what he needs to to look for and it's all sweet. Charges the same as well and never have any alignment issues, unlike some other places... Guy knows his stuff.
Honda had a recall on those High pressure power steering lines on some of the V6 engines. Got mine replaced for free some years back.
I still have power steering fluid left over from the dealer from doing those. They gave us 2 bottles with each hose replacement. Thanks for the comment.
I found an easy cheap way to bypass the vcm. I unplugged the coolant sensor and plugged it into an unused coolant sensor that I just tied out of the way. I bought the cheapest temp sensor at AutoZone and just plugged it in. No codes, but the temp gauge stays at the coldest mark and I believe the engine management never reaches closed loop mode. The idle is a little higher than I would like.
Difference between the last car and this Odyssey? Eric doesn't hide behind an 'as is' clause.
Plumb-bobs for car repairs?
We're gonna call you Eric the Smart Guy from now on.
Eric i replaced my Honda Accord 2005 power steering high pressure hose and it took me days to cmplete the job... I just wanna learn your magic next time I do it again 😂!
This one was on the outside of the engine mount, so it was much easier than the other kind that goes through it. Also, there was a recall on those PS hoses. Meaning, I did a ton of them at the dealer almost daily. After the first couple you get good at it. Thanks for the comment.
Great video Eric,thanks for sharing
Thanks for the VCM explanation. You are the best
That engine runs much better than the dead one did
I am sad to comment on a video like this. Nonetheless here I am commenting. Anyway good work Eric and good info right there.👍
Great job and great video Eric, you're awesome!
@0:52 Eric: That is the sound of something very unhappy!!!
Car: I'm ALIVE I'm ALIVE, don't throw me to the graveyard!!!!
I've used royal purple to get a good cleaning of the engine. Seems to work very well
The vcm failed on my 2012 Accord. Your engine sounds like mine did. Cylinder 1 had a bent control rod, wrecked the bearings and scored the crank. "New" engine has 49,000 less miles, hopefully buying me time. My mechanic installed a new rear main seal, water pump and timing belt, etc. I am religious about my oil changes and overall maintenance. The fuel economy over the road is very very good, but overall I am willing to sacrice highway efficiency for durability. Half-ass engineering ends up with terrible results.
Erick is a good guy! Good job 👍
This video would have been just fine without the sweat at the end. Other than that, great video. I appreciate what you do to help people in need
I've said it before. But I'll say it again, you are a good egg Eric.
So satisfying watching the car lift with the motor grounded
Since you have a nice floor you may want to try using chalk or a marker next time. Mark the jack stand locations on the floor then mark where the frame/engine is sitting on the stands.
Maybe that will be easier? I suspect some slight maneuvering will be required no matter what.
I considered that, but the oil dry was getting in the way. Also, the placement of the jack stand does not directly correspond to it's placement on the cradle. In other words, the cradle could move on the jack stand and still be out of alignment. Thanks for the comment.
Eric you're great!! mechanic 👍🏼
You're my hero Eric!
ETCG... you rock!
7:23 the famous engine mounts that never fail to fail I hate these things they go bad way way way too fast
This is going to be the best maintained odyssey in the state!
Ever since Cadillac tried cylinder deactivation in 1981, it seems 40 years later, the concept still isn't very well proven. I'm speaking from experience with our 2009 Odyssey which required a piston ring upgrade....now we have our 2017 Odyssey...which seems to work better but I still don't trust the system.
First thing I thought of. Squeezing out every .1 of a MPG regardless of the cost to make the CAFE #s.
@@dlewis9760 yup just like CVT to gain 2 mpg to meet CAFE standards at the cost of reliability.
I know I am old now when Eric starts looking like Santa
16:08 theres actually an O-ring(was told by honda shop foreman) behind that plate that usually goes flat and starts leaking oil
37:55 yeah, that line leaks on that model year
I have the same engine might need that work done to it in Illinois
Nothing beats Toyota. My 2007 Camry v6 has 497k miles and still going strong. I haven’t change transmission fluids.
Spun a rod bearing, can tell by the sound.
Engine: *fails*
Eric: Am I a *JOKE* to you?...
Say 'ello to my lil' FREN'!
*squeezes air gun trigger*
26:39 Buying used engines 101. Remove the valve cover(s) BEFORE you leave the place you bought the engine from. I have ran into the same problem before, and worse.
Eric, NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED! happens to me all the time
that engine sounds way better than the old one.
Enjoyed the guitar rift...
You do great for humanity.
It appears this VCM thingy is more trouble than its worth.....poxy electronic gadget.I would be afraid that Jenny "might" think bad of you, but she doesn't appear to. I would be on edge for the next few months IF it was me .You sure went above the call of duty here Eric.
BTW, the VCM did not kill this engine. See next weeks video to find out what did. Thanks for the comment.
@@ericthecarguy Oh wow!!!!!!!!
That power steering line I’ve always cut at the rack then just throw a socket on the bolt and not have to deal with fighting it with the line
That sucks for Jeniffer and you must feel really bad but I think that VCM thing is the death of these motors might just be a good idea to bypass it
Actually, the VCM did not cause this engine to fail. I'll show that in the tear down video next week. Be sure to tune in. Thanks for the comment.
I never knew Honda had that junk on those engines dang
Eric: "...make sure it's working properly so she doesn't find herself in that situation ever again because that quite literally is my worst fear coming true"
Also Eric: "there's no way I'm getting my oil seals back....I'm just going to have to roll the dice on that one" 😂
Just kidding, good job Eric. 👍
Eric, great job! Is it possible to fix that horrible rust spot on the drivers side rear quarter? I know it is not mechanical but leaving that on an otherwise reliable car is not great.
It sure is possible, but not by me. In my view, rust does not effect the vans ability to get from point A to point B. Thanks for the comment.
for the wheel I just loop the seatbelt through the wheel and buckle it in
So nice putting in the time and money for the engine on your own dime! It kind of makes me fearful about not having the credit to get a newer car and having an old car that will put me further and further into debt because my skills and tools are nowhere near yours. I would have to bring a job like this to a mechanic! 😨 I’m not sure if this happens to many people though. So maybe it is an irrational fear. Lol.
The best advice I can offer is never flush the engine oil in a dirty engine like this. Good luck. th-cam.com/video/M5vchkvemG8/w-d-xo.html
@@ericthecarguy Thanks! The oil build up is probably holding my engine together. 😝
Bless your heart Eric!
Honestly I would wager to say that the compromised catalytic converter‘s is ultimately what led to the demise of this engine and perhaps the VCM system as well. I’ve seen this scenario happen over and over again with cars that have bad catalytic converter‘s and the comb get sucked into the engine and just completely destroys it, but it’s usually with Nissans more often than any other brand name.
Converters don't go bad without a reason, usually a poorly running engine. I talked about that in the previous video. See next weeks video to find out what caused this engine to fail. Thanks for the comment.
40:59, tires need aligned, I can see kickback on the steering wheel indicating they are not aligned.
Family Vans seems to be the worst “fixing it forward” for Eric
the Nissan and the Ford sedans also failed after they left. I haven't had one FiF vehicle leave and not come back.
Great job Eric! My 2008 Ody has 344+k miles on it (only one timing belt and two trans drain and fills). Never had the valves adjusted and the vcm is still working. Do you recommend installing the tuner or just let it go? Thanks again!
Not all Odysseys have VCM. It's normally just the high end ones. Also, the VCM did not cause this engine to fail. I'll show that in next weeks video. Thanks for the comment.
The Eco-Wonder Honda VCM! Save 150 dollars on fuel, lose 15000 on repairs.
This "engine" perfectly sums up what's wrong with the technology today.
They ruined ICU bulletproof balance and now are chasing the "electric dream" when their products don't even last.
Actually, the VCM did not kill this engine. Tune in next week to find out what did. Thanks for the comment.
Nice job Eric with VCM Tuner II. What are your thoughts on wiring it up to the fuse box so it turns on only when the engine is running? Would eliminate any parasitic draw.
Got a question-2009 honda odyssey oil pump-not sure if i rotated the gear so flat spot matches flat spot on crankshaft🤷♂️The pump went on just fine n oil pan is on.🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Barbara's van flashbacks....
Dam brother, the engine died anyways, tough luck!
We currently own four J35 engine vehicles. All I can say... shame on Honda for VCM.
Shame on the government for the CAFE regulations that prompted it in the first place.
@wiimaster2847 yep. It's turned into a numbers game anyway. Drove a '92 S10 for 12 years. Bought it new. Will never see anything that size again. Companies have made SUV and mini trucks larger to get reclassified as heavy trucks 🙄🙄 Models like Subaru Forester or Ford Explorer doubled in size 2000 to 2010. Government changed regulations AGAIN. People didn't want to give up their tanks. So manufacturers getting desperate turbocharging everything or slapping on cylinder deactivation.
Dam VCM. I have had three odysseys of this generation and with all three I wanted to defeat the VCM but I never did one of the vans had 240,000 miles and I ended up selling them before I did the retrofit. Where do you get that part? In case I end up with another Odyssey
Thanks!
No, thank you!
Can you please tell me why my Honda Odyssey exl doesn't want to take off after it has sat idle with the air conditioner on? Also when sitting with it running the air will blow hot. Its a 2013 V6
You da man Eric!
Do you think the readiness monitors will still run if the engine computer only sees 167f? This vcm tuner 2 is sparking my interest. I believe the evap monitor won’t run unless the engine computer sees at least 176f, same with egr monitor. With two monitors not being able to meet enabling criteria I’m curious if this will present an issue getting emissions inspected. Thanks
Hello, as the designer of the VCMTUNER II - yes it will allow all readyness monitors to be set. If the vehicle sits idle for a duration the real ECT temperature will be restored to run diagnostics. The evap monitor takes some time to run (usually a few drive cycles) and is one of the more difficult tests to get honda's to run due to the gas tank level requirements being between 1/2 and 3/4. We met carb e.o. emission limits with our original device (VCMT1000 / VCMTUNER) and also passed obd2 and received a carb e.o.. Currently pursuing carb e.o. on the VCMTUNER II at this time. The throttle position re-learn won't be allowed to run unless you reach 194F or higher to perform that procedure. Our product was designed to allow this to occur by running the TPS re-learn normally, and let the vehicle sit for 10+ minutes at idle after closing the hood, reaching 3000 RPM for 2-3 minutes after the vehicle is warmed up w/ the A/C off.
@@eastmanresearch3143 thank you 👍
that engine sounds like my stomach after too many Big Macs
i live in the desert where rust isnt really a thing. i have to do a motor swap coming up soon. the engine i have, vq35 rev up model, was only made for a few years because of its issues. a company has motors locally, but ive no clue to tell how long they could have been sitting. what should i be looking for, assuming they let me bar the motor over and look down in the plug holes
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I hate the sweaty hand drips from gloves. Then trying to get a new pair on. Pita
Have you ever changed out a cvt transmission in a Nissan Versa? I know several thousand have gone out even before the warranty was even out and no telling how many have been done before 100k miles were on the car. I’m just asking
Eric the good car guy....
Your a good person Eric. I don't know many mechanics that would do what you did.
I Agree Jim @JimTheCarGuy
Jim, you help many people out, too. On BOTH your channels. Stay safe brother.
thats probly because other mechanics arent getting plenty of money from views on youtube
@@NoStress90s Exactly!