2006 Honda Odyssey Power Steering Rack Replacement
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- This video is a step by step guide in how to replace a power steering rack or gear, on a 2006 Honda Odyssey. This video will apply to more than just the 2006 model year. In fact, it would go back to the 1999 model year and up as high as 2008. It's also similar to many of the newer models as well.
This is not a job for the faint at heart. If you were doing this in your garage or driveway, be sure to allow yourself plenty of time to complete the work, at least a day if not more, especially if your van is rusty like the one in the video.
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Eric, you have the only DETAILED video on TH-cam for this repair, GREAT JOB!!
Thanks!
EricTheCarGuy My favorite is how Eric explains everything. Why he uses a certain lubricant, tool, etc and what can happen if he doesn't etc. Answers a lot of questions I get in my mind
mrsemifixit, exactly right! I hate it when I look for a repair video and not even half of the instructions are given and the video is only 5 minutes long FOR A HEAD GASKET! Eric realizes not everyone is a mechanic who watches his videos, so he goes that extra mile.
Astral Auto Repairs Yes which is perfect for the DIY'r it's like having a tutor there with you. Most other videos just show someone fixing something. No thought process is verbalized which does no good for learning.
mrsemifixit, I think a lot of auto repair content creators on TH-cam forget that TH-cam is MAINLY for the DIYers who are looking to avoid high priced repair shops, and even though Eric is a master technician, he breaks the instructions down so we can follow, and Eric, if you see this, "WE CAN DIG IT"!
“I’m going to try to do this in a way that you could do in your garage”. .... then puts car on a lift. LOL
🤣🤣🤣🤣holy fuk that’s funny I laughed my ass out🤣🤣🤣
I like using a slightly bigger torx bit instead of a Allen. I hammer it in, it bites better.
This video really saved me from spending $1,400.00!! I just have one caveat though. This is not as easy as it looks. Though I saved $1400.00, there were many challenges along the way. I had the same problem with the s.b. link. High side pressure line was a pain to get off and on. Back motor mounts did not align. Took me and a friend two days. I've seen some people get it done in 5 hrs. Good for them. But... if your like me, a person that does minor fixes eg. Altinators, brakes, fuel pumps etc... then do yourself a huge favor and think this through before making that commitment. Nothing was easy about this. There were several times I wished I just payed for this job to be done. With that being said, this job is over and I'm happy it's fixed.
I bought an 09 EX-L that was in a small collision for a (not amazing) fair price. I'll be replacing the Lower Control Arms and ball joints, CV Axles, outer tie rods, front wheel hubs and bearings, the timing belt, all the engine and transmission mounts but the steering rack seems the most daunting! I do not have a lift, a few Jack's and 4 Jack stands.
Wish me luck, I feel your pain with rusty bolts! I should get a torch 😢
@@johnreed2272 good luck with all that. Patience with that steering rack is needed when you change it out. Halfway through I was seriously regretting on changing it myself. Honda must have really thought about this and made it darn near impossible to work on it. When it comes to turning wrenches, I’m not shy at all but this was the worst I’ve ever had.
Can you do this with jack stands?
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE these type of videos.
Yes, I like the Fairmont videos, too, no doubt, but the general repair videos are the girl that brought you to the dance! Never ignore her! :)
Kudos, Eric!
Michael Bloom I think it's super cool that he's building the Fairmont but I never watch those videos. these repair videos I love.
Greetings from POLAND !! We do watch you Eric!
Hello Poland!
Thank you for an awesome repair video.
I think Germans are more a fan of torx bits.
Sincerely, a German :D
Considering that it takes three separate torx bits to remove my radio, yes. :)
jerri0401 😂👍🏻
do you have something against Germans?
Chrysler tech here, the Italians love the torx, too. Both internal and external. See both types on the chassis of all the Fiat based cars. The one thing i don't understand, is why the Volkswagen engineers specced the triple square bolts, knowing that outside of Europe, most people don't have the tools for them.
Yeah like on the damn oil pan's and they love to strip! >=/ Could not even change the oil on my Jetta without having to take it to the shop to replace the bit. Why not just use a regular old bolt. Overly complicated engineering. Grrrrr.
I don't think your supposed to undo the bolt with the allen key your supposed to hold the bolt with the key and stop it turning while you loosen the nut with the spanner .
In my experience there are a hundred different ways to do something when it comes to auto repair. My philosophy is that if it works, it works. What I did worked just fine. Thanks for your comment.
big112233 exactly that's what i do i hold the allen bolt with the allen wrench then loosen the nut with open box wrench. It works perfect
You guys or gals must have never worked on a rust belt car, or only worked on cars that are one at most two years old. I love it when Arizona/California/etc sunny state guys comment on how easy they disassembled that nut or bolt that someone from North cautions or tells how difficult it was to get it off. Those sway bar links are notorious if they have seen salt during winter. Eric was being kind in his reply here :)
Salty roads here in the winter. Sway bar links are cheap, time is money, I removed mine with an angle grinder, much quicker and much more satisfying.
You're a great professional Eric. Your ability to describe, disassemble, reassemble is superior. The inclusion of what tools may or may not need was awesome 👍
CV boot grease is the best thing ever. It even goes great on toast.
32:16 Deez nutz!
:)))
Smashing tutorial eric :-D, this video will help someone a lot!!.
All the required key points covered from your vast experence, in a logical presentation.
i bet the alignment wasn't very far off at all.
That nut jumping into the pipe was mad :-D.
Heat is your frend, and a large hammer lol.
That was a crazy nut for sure. I love my big red wrench. Thanks for your comments as always.
EricTheCarGuy Gotta love those tools. I personally adore my BFH (big f****ing hammer), giant pry bar and gargantuan pliers 😂👍
@eric- Helped a buddy replace a stabilizer link and had the same problem. Then my SL went out. Had to destroy the ball joint to get a grip to keep it from spinning. Sigh. But, some how I stumbled into a replacement part that had a nut on the other side which made reinstall easier. So something to watch for when buying parts! But wonder why they are made that way in the first place?
IDK if anyone really notices the excellent, nay, scrumchalescent shots the camera man gets. Amazing job. Some shots im left wondering how they got the shot. Touche cameraman.
Great video. One thing I would suggest is to make sure the new power steering rack comes centered/aligned. Speaking from experience. I installed a new power steering rack on my car without checking if it was centered and of course it wasn't (even though the site said it was). So I had to take it out, center it and reinstall it. It sucked to say the least. Live and you learn i guess. 😅
LOL, I put one in off center, now my wheel is sitting at 2 O’clock instead of straight.
That was 3 yrs ago, Runs good though!
one of the things i like best about your videos is making me feel good about paying my mechanic to do work on my cars when it's too much for me to handle
As a mechanic who solely does suspension and steering work, I find the easiest way to remove swaybar links is to actually avoid using impacts on the allen/torx keys inside the thread. The thread just doesn't have the strength to hold up to an impact. Instead, I use basic hand tools and ratchet spanners. 9/10 times it works, there's always ones that are just too rusted or damaged to use, so vice-grips on the back side of the link work fine.
Nothing against the way you did it on this car, just sharing my experience. :)
cherubman3052 agreed! Impact with a allen or torx is bad news. I use hand tools and never have trouble with those
hand tools may save the link, at cost of time. impact with small Allen or torx tend to destroy. impact on nut n hold in back with key is fast, but often will destroy link.
Do you have to remove the SWAY BAR to R&R the Rack. I have 2004 Honda Odyssey that needs Rack replacement. Thank you.
I've had good luck by using handtools on a stabilizer link by using handtools I first used penetrating oil then i used a wire brush to brush off the bulk of the rust, then I put an allen wrench in the end and used a wrench just like you did with the closed end and got it loose by loosening it a little bit and then tightening it again and keep doing that until it came off took me about 5 to 8 mins per nut and it never stripped. I'm not saying your wrong at all I mean whatever works best for you is the way to go offcourse, I'm well aware of the problems that you run into working on rusty cars especially japanese ones. Great video though!
Heck I was able to zip mine out with an impact no problem. Still had a replacement set just to be safe, the OEM links are not expensive anyways.
I wonder if those brass bristle brushes I see in weapons cleaning kits would help with the stabilizer link sockets? Chucked in to a slow drill it could clean out those cavities so the allen key would get a good seat. Just a thought from someone that really doesn't know.
Seconded on the replacements handy, although I stick to moog aftermarkets since they have the nut on the back end you can grab ahold of. Usually worth the few extra dollars compared to OEMs.
12:00... the allen head is for you to hold to stop it spinning when you undo the nut... you apply force to the nut! not the allen head! sorry but thats a fail lol :)
handtools only btw
Well, you might want to watch the video again because I tried that. Also, in my experience, impacts are the best way to deal with rusty fasteners. BTW, I've dealt with a million of these when I worked for Honda.
I won't even bother most of the time with rusty fasteners and just use the torch on them before I even try to remove it. Also the Snap-On 3/8 6 point flare nut crowfoot wrenches are my favorite for lines if they fit.
Have you ever heard or worked on a "rust welded" fastener?? Those nuts there are from my limited experience working on my cars are usually self locking type, without the nylon. They have different kind of thread on them, that cuts the studs thread as they go in not to come out easily. What is important is, as they cut the stud, they tear some of the zinc plating on the stud threads. Zinc plating is there to slow down corrosion and rust. So those sway bar links do get rusted a lot. And they are right there exposed to salty water/snow/ice splashing around from the tires. End result if they are really rusted, they are really rust welded, and very difficult to remove. Like Eric said in the video, some of them have a flat section on the other side that a thin enough crescent wrench can hold it, at the same place Eric placed the locking pliers. With those there is more chance of getting them out, because you can put the wrench there and beat the nut with impact wrench until it breaks the rust bonds and nut comes off. The ones in this video don't have it.
EricTheCarGuy ha didn't see that was probably pouring my coffee or something, but I work predominantly on 10 plus year old French cars and they are all that style it's a pita, but l have learned the hard way that the more you go at them with power, the more they fight back, gently gently, lull them into a false sense of security, talk softly to them... then bam suddenly twist the thing... yeah probably been doing this too long.....
Yay, finally a repair video
Can’t begin to imagine how much time and how many knuckles I have saved watching Eric’s videos. Thanks!!
Yet another excellent video Eric. The multiple camera angles must have been a real bear to get right along with the lighting but, MAN, does it make this an understandable process. This one also helps me to understand just how much my mechanic EARNS every penny when doing something like this. Good on you for attempting to show us how it's done correctly.
*Eric my rack leaks everytime I watch you. What should I do? Explain in DETAIL how you would service my rack please. 😎*
Umm.... not sure how to answer that.
EricTheCarGuy 😂😂
put a plug in your rack..problem solved
Been using hammer all the while but after I started using ball joint puller/seperator tool, I never looked back.
If you're talking about a pickle fork, I don't use those because I find they damage the dust boots. At least for me.
I'll admit that I also like swinging my hammer. Great stress relief.
EricTheCarGuy not the pickle fork but those A shaped types with a bolt at the end, If its my own car I dont like the hammer bottom/flatten the knuckle parts but thats me, and yeah I understand the stress involved in car repairs, anyways love your channel Eric keep the videos coming!
after buying a clock spring i learned to tie the steering to the brake pedal also a line crowsfoot 3/8 to 1/2 ext. and breaker bar gets the high line off
lol, the seatbelt usually works too.
Eric, another method that works with stuck flare fittings is to take a pair of vise-grips and clamp them over the line wrench to give it a tighter grip.
Im in the process of doing this now. Watching the video to remove the steering arm from the rack. I banged the crap out of it and it would not come off. Watch from 7:05. See the mis hit with the hammer? So I was "See the ball Danny ,BE the ball Danny. It came right out. Maybe more to come?....
My God is this actually a repair video?. No way!!! cool!!!! I have not seen this on this channel in like a long time !!!!!
I've been posting at least one repair video every month since the beginning of the year.
Iam german and I dont love allenkeys xD No got the same problem as you right now. Mostly leading to hammering a torx into a allen-hole :D
love the videos they are so in depth with detail and with all the camera angles you can see everything that you are doing perfection. keep up the great work and i love the fairmont videos will defiantly help when i build a fox body mustang
Remind me to NEVER buy an honda odyssey van, EVER!!
What a friggin nightmare!
I'm sure power steering mount is bad on any vehicle.
Are minivans notoriously bad because the engine bay is so tight for a V6
Eric can i come work for you, haha you seem like the kinda guy that would be a joy to work for, not the crabbit old guy who comes to check on ya every 20 minutes Why the fucks this not done! get it done you still gotta do this this and this" listing all your remaining jobs
eric, try putting the suspension under load when trying to loosen a stabilizer link. it has helped me time and time again. i put a transmission jack under the ball joint. it puts the stabilizer link bound up on the inside, making loosening all that much easier
I'll have to try that next time.
ERICCCCCCC!! YOU'RE DOINGGGG IT WRONGGG :)
where are all the videos on random customer cars or trucks?
Those bushings/grommets on the rack, are they replaceable? My rack is loose and rattles around while I'm driving because the rubber has worn away. Not sure how, I bought it used. Tried to tighten, but the metal only allows to tighten so much, the rack still moves freely as it has separated from the rubber and the rubber has worn away about 1/4 inch all around.
Really trying g to avoid replacing the whole rack
Considering filling in the space with a tube of sikaflex
Erick, you need a television show! Great job sir
I would had replaced that line as well if it hasn't been replaced recently and avoid issues down the road not only that but since you're already doing a big job recommend the customer several parts of the suspension that may be over due it be a lot cheaper to do it now than later I did it with a budget of 1000 dollars just in parts no regrets including struts front and back basically front new suspension is brand new 👍
The steering rack bushing's on my 05 odyssey must be worn out. The rack moves about a half inch side to side when turning the wheel. I am using your video to try and help me just to swap out the bushings because the rack seems fine.
This was a great video. Thank you for the variety! 5 years watching and still going strong! Thanks again for all you do.
-Mo
Have to do this on my car. Has anyone had any luck with remanufactured units? There's nothing but bad reviews about them. Is there a brand out there that will actually last? It's not the kind of job you want to do twice.
while counting the threads or the turns is fine when changing a tie rod, something I have noticed over the years, not every replacement is the same length overall or even have the threads in the same location. what I usually do is use a tape measure and measure from the backside of the inner on the flat where the threads start all the way out to the center of the outer where a grease fitting would normally be and I'm usually only about a 1/16 of an inch out when the time comes to align it. obviously not every time is the same, so whatever works works, just mentioning about differences in brands of inners and outers.
Did the rack in my 1995 accord 2 mos ago still recovering HONDA IS CRAZY!
I'll be replacing the steering rack (and much more) in a 2009 EX-L soon using this video.
I bought the Steering rack for $200 from a company called "Dynamic Power Steering" their claims were prestigious so we'll see for that price.
Dynamic Power Steering from Amazon, the model number for the rack is 41702.
I do not have access to a lift. I will be using (4) 6 Ton duralast Jack's.
A 2 1/2 ton duralast Jack & a 3 ton Torin SUV Jack.
I may need one or two more Jack's for engine and subframe support, I'll do my best to update so this comment may help someone else.
Because I have a bad habit of buying cars with little video coverage (09 Honda Odyssey & 08 Saturn Aura) I know how much a comment can help.
I was able to drop the sub frame, in my odyssey it was impossible to remove the high pressure steering line from the rack without moving it out a bit. I disconnected the line from the pump as shown in the video. I only removed the rear engine mount and transmission mount. My frame is bent at the holes to the transmission mount so I removed the mount from the transmission side. It took about 4 inches of lowering to slide the rack out. The dynamic power steering rack from Amazon looks identical, I'll be able to install the new rear engine mount and the steering rack my next weekend! I didn't have an oxy/ace torch so I bought a propane torch attachment for some Coleman cans. Worked amazing for that darn sway bar link! I also got a $60 porter cable corded 1/2 impact because it was necessary!
Eric love the channel, just my opinion these videos are why I started watching your channel at the very start back in the old workshop was hooked have never missed a video, I also watch etcg1 and agree with everything you've said about views and wanting to go in a different direction, but these types of repair videos are the reason why most of the viewers started watching and have stayed watching your channel ,in my opinion they Should be the bulk of content can not get enough of them....,Best of luck From Australia
Thank you for that feedback. However, my point of view is that I still put just as much effort, if not more, into the Fairmont videos. They still contain a ton of useful information, repair and otherwise, along with the challenges I face when doing a job, just like this video. It's just that the Fairmont seems to be a vehicle that few people have an interest in. The irony for me is that I'd wager you don't even own an Odyssey that needs a power steering rack, yet you watched and enjoyed this video. I just wish more people would see the #FairmontProject videos with the same eyes. Thanks again.
Eric, no wonder you strip them, you aint supposed to use it with the gun!!
Use a ratchet spanner to turn the nut, and the allen key just to stop it spinning, jesus!
This is a light hearted comment btw, not criticism. Love the videos :)
Additionally, home gamer tip, if you just compress the suspension a bit, it will hold the ball joint from spinning usually...
There are a million different ways to do repairs. Meaning, there is often no 'right' or 'wrong' way to do things. If it works, it works. What I did worked and didn't destroy the link. I call that a win. Thanks for your input.
Truth, your comment section must be full of things like this, thanks for replying, stay dirty.
why dont honda use drop links so you can get a 17mm spanner on the back? A lot ive done here in the uk do anyway nice video eric.
my power steering rack is leaking oil so I bought a brand new power steering rack on ebay $400 aus. My motor mechanic told me to change the power steering pump to. I brought a new power steering rack do I need a power steering pump or not. I do not want to put one in because there's one sounds ok. just the power steering rack was leaking
Replace the pump.
Eric ,,, I do not have a lift, I do not have a"big ass blow torch".. for rusted nuts. However, in the start of this vidieo, You said you were going to show how to do this repair without the "Fancy Tools"..Can U show us who do not have your lift and ETC....Just show me how to do it on a weekend in my driveway man....Still Love You!!!!! And always watching..
Yes, I would like some tips for doing this repair on the ground too.
Inner tie rods could be different in length, especially aftermarket ones. Counting threads wont always work. Learned it the hard way :(
Thanks Eric for this video. I appreciate you getting the lighting and angle for the camera for all fasteners. You definitely have the BEST automotive repair videos on TH-cam. I’ve been watching you for years and you have helped me so much. Keep up the great content. Cheers!
Hey Bud I'm watching your video on the power steering rack and you made it safe and so easy to make it look but very nice and clean job my friend thanks for sharing your video good job my wife hit her passenger side of the front wheel and she bent her passenger front side of the rack is bent so i as a street mechanic I'm going to do the job on jackkstands and. use some of the same tools that you have but just codeless inpack gun instead of a air gun but I will be doing the same job so if I run into any problem i hope i can contact you again thanks again and have a wonderful day ☝️😎✌️out a friend e doggie dog Bow Wow wow 👍
I meant bud my bad
I could not have done this without this video. Tried other videos, not as complete. Did it in my driveway, took about 16 hours on a 2008 (in 2023), so 15 years of rusty bolts that needed every trick in the book to remove. Getting all the bolts off was 14 hours of that. If you undertake this at home, prepare to use every trick to break the bolts free, including a trusty torch and lots of penetrating lube. Sometimes the tool combinations required to reach the bots was a total Rube Goldberg, as I didn't have the range of tools Eric has.
Butane torch saved my buns, also got my first (cheap) impact and my God the difference is night and day
Impact Extensions, driveline and stubby sockets joined my tool chest that day
looks like a total pain in in the ass, great video!
( he said to the proctologist ) "a one in a million shot doc, one in a million!"
time for a new car I guess
I know this is late, but have any of you guys tried Blue Devil Products' power steering sealant?
Yeah I feel that....noooo thanks for a job like this...
Only 2006 , maybe 2040 to buy a new one
When I needed to replace my Stabilizer links on my 03 Accord EXV6 sedan. I held the Allen bolt with the allen wrench. And then loosed the nut with a open end wrench It worked easily.
Spray paint the nut & threads on the tie rod before you take it off, leaves a perfect marking... Obviously this only works on parts you are going to re-assemble (as opposed to replace)
You can get adjustable screw type jackstands on amazon. look in the rv section for trailer support stands. 4 pack. there designed for travel trailers but work basically the same as your big stand. they look like a pyramid with a big bolt on the top.
Eric thanks for making this video I did this same replacement on a 93 one and it was a live saver. I think this method is much easier to do than loosing the whole front thanks again keep it good 👍
Btw I did ot on the floor with 2 jackstands and 2 floor jacks
How much does it normally cost to do a repair like this?
Greetings from Albania Eric! Great job as always!
Hello Albania!
Albania is a Wonderful place! It's on the Adriatic Sea, just a stone's throw (+) from Greece, and they have some incredible places to visit. My nephew honeymooned there, and was well-treated everywhere.
Hahahaaha i thought i was the only albanian watching these kind of videos 😂😂
we are three now :) :) :)
Would be cool if hunter would send you an alignment rack to "test"...just sayin. Dude btw air hammer n that line....Like a boss!
Eric, I love this video. It's classic ECTG. I enjoy watching you work. Things I like about this video; it's useful, you did it in a way that a DIYer could accomplish. Good job.
Classic ETCG repair vid. Love it!
best part is 27 minutes in where that bolt ("fastener" ETCG lingo) bounces away and up into that duct work. I swear these types of random crazy things happen all the time when parts drop. It's always disheartening to hear things drop and not make the correct sound cuz u know its gunna be fun trying to find it.
I do not own a Honda Odyssey, nor do I know anyone who does, But I finished this video with confidence that I could try to fix a power steering rack on one. Great video Eric.
I already gave up in my mind halfway watching this. But I had to wait and see where the spark plug goes. xD. Another great job Eric! Stay dirty!
Great job, Eric, except for you butchering the end link. Those Allen heads are only to prevent the ball joimt for turning; you tried to break it loose with an impact on the Allen fastener. Bad idea. Just drive an Allen wrench into the end link, then use a MANUAL wrench (box end preferred) to loosen the fastener. Since thee threads get butchered from corrosion, 1 thread out, 1/2 thread in. Repeat. You can also use a wire brush on the threads prior to removing the nut. Never unable to get one off using this method, HOWEVER, as these are high wear items, check them ahead of time and , if needed, have a pair of new ones available. You can always return them if you don't need them and leave them in their original packaging.
One other suggestion. Just fill the Allen bolt with grease when done; wipe the excess off of the threads. This will prevent them from corroding the next time you want to remove the end links. You can see how easy they go when clean, oiled, and corrosion free.
Good shit big E, I'd never own a Honda unless it had 2 wheels but this was very detailed and informative and also very entertaining, keep it up and stay dirty.
350munro anything against Honda? Hondas last forever, my 99 accord has 218,000 miles, I bought it when it 30,000 miles. and I bet it could still go longer, but now I have another 99, but this one is stick shift, hell, even Eric has a couple of Hondas
As far as four wheeled vehicles go I dont go anywhere near anything that isnt V8( or more) and as honda only make 4,5,6 cylinder I just dont rate them. I would far rather have a V8 that exploded every 50K miles than suffer through some 4 cylinder shitter for 300K, but that is just me, if you like 4 cylinder shitters that last forever then good for you.
350munro wow, if that V8 is exploding every 50k, than thats the shit engine, when the little 4 banger that could goes on and on, but I'm not trying to argue, different strokes for different folks, more power to you
I like boost and lots of it so most of mine dont last 50K more like 5K, I think the longest lasting engine Ive ever had lasted about 30K before I wanted to rebuild it.
Electric power steering racks are the way of the future
Most EPS systems use a motor on the steering shaft over a motorized rack.
DJKProductions yes it save more energy , and help car parking
@EricTheCarGuy Ah, I see what you mean. My 2012 Civic has one like that, and it eliminates so many problems. No fluid to worry about, no whining if it's low, and no mess. Down side is that they are a bit more expensive I believe. Funny thing is I didn't know it was electric till I couldn't find a reservoir anywhere in the engine compartment.
Can we get the complete version of Half-Inch Kinda Day? It sounded really catchy.
mrsabidji I would also like to hear this.
This is the point where Eric decides to turn his life around and become a lounge singer. We were here when it happened, guys.
mrsabidji
12" single is out on Decca!
people ask me all the time, if we sell power steering fluid for Honda, i tell them no. l tell them it HAS to be Honda. l tell them either go to dealer or see if there is a cross reference at a parts store. i work in a "big box store" as a tech.
This job is entirely too darned fiddly..... this is one I'd pay someone else to do! lol.... You sir, are a trooper!
what a very patient guy, i'd be swearing and grunting a lot while undoing and doing those parts.
THE STABILIZER LINK END SHOULD BE REPLACED WHENEVER IT IS REMOVED FOR SURE!
Eric, this was a fantastic video - classic ETCG at it's best. Very helpful and very detailed video.
I have this issue with my van. Thought it was a power steering pump. After seeing this. Not gonna fix it till it HAS to be fixed
Take off the return hose at the reservoir, go to the stealership and buy like 6 bottles of power steering fluid, and flush the fluid using two people. Crank the engine for a couple seconds with the return line in a bucket, stop, top off the fluid, and repeat 4-5 times until you have a bottle or two left. Reconnect the return line, put the remaining fluid in the reservoir, crank the engine, top it off, and your problem should go away. The fluid in these vans needs to be pretty clean or the rack will lock up and give you stiff steering. Mine was disgusting until I flushed it. I even had little chunks of shit floating in my reservoir. The pump also quieted down as well and quit groaning.
You can easily check your fluid condition too. Open the reservoir, and it should be clear (new fluid is clear). Mine was black and had chunks in it. Not a bad idea to replace the reservoir either, as the dealers have a TSB for an updated one that improves fluid flow. New ones have a white dot up top, just ask your dealer for one. They only cost like $20. At the least, take it off the van, and make sure the mesh filter at the bottom isn't restricted.
I would've emptied the old fluid prior to replacing the rack
Man, those end links are a pain in the ass. I ended up cutting the nuts on mine just to relieve enough pressure around the threads. I didn't have air impact tools or anything. With limited space, I had to use a wrench. I also sent back a set of end links because they had those damn allen fasteners. I sent them back and got a set of Moogs.
I once had a nut that shoot across the room and bounce off the wall and land back on the bench just 6 inches or so from where I was working. I was looking all over the floor and was just started to look back at the bench quick and saw the nut and I was like how did that happen?!
Hey Eric, had a rattle in the front end of my car, so I checked out the Eric Video Encyclopedia Of Mechanics, followed your method of hitting the front tyre with a hammer and found the cause...rattling disc pads and worn slides. Thanks for the help, and another interesting steering video.
I love hearing how my work helps people. Thanks for your comment and good find!
+EricTheCarGuy hey Eric you are a hard working guy keep up the fantastic work
@@ericthecarguy I would love to have your thoughts on this mystery sound that only seems to happen in the warm/hot months. I had the control arms replaced and today shocks and struts. Still making the sound. Tight turning, slow speed with acceleration usually from a stop. Forward and reverse. Both directions but not 100% of the time. Making me CRAZY!!! Help? th-cam.com/play/PLn5IhraTCbZSbd6RztpjkoFJHt03DNU91.html
Is power steering rack failure a common Honda issue? I've had a handful of Studebakers, Jeeps, Subarus, Toyotas, and Ford/Lincoln/Mercurys over the last 3 decades. I've had to replace starters, a power steering pump, an air flow sensor, AC condensers, window regulators (Grand Cherokees eat them like gasoline), tie rod ends, CV boots, all kinds of gaskets and perished rubber parts, a diff cover, etc, but never a power steering rack.
I have an 08 Acura TL with 105,000 km on it. Im having an issue with my heater. When I got the car 15,000 km ago, when I set the temperature to 25 degrees Celsius, the heater would blow hot air (which was still really high since my dads car blew hot air at 21 degrees Celsius). Gradually, as I drove the car more the temperature at which it blows hot air gradually got higher to 27 to 29 and now 31 degrees, before this temperature it just blows cool/cold air. What could be the issue? It seems like a door/valve is sticking that is supposed to let the hot air in or the electrical control on the temperature setting is not working. Any help is appreciated!
They should just put flats on the back of all drop link ball joints instead of the allen bolt, sometimes they are there but aren't immediately obvious
I have a 2012 Accord Sedan (120k miles) that recently developed a clunk in the front end while going over bumps. A local independent shop suggested that my steering rack is going bad - mechanic told me that the gears had worn and are now allowing play between the teeth causing this metallic clunk. I haven't been to a Honda dealer yet, so it's not been properly diagnosed. I do notice increased shuddering around hard corners, but otherwise the steering-feel is as it has always been (awesome!). With that said, are there any suspension components I should rule out before taking it to a dealer? I can't afford a new rack right now...just curious if the local indy shop may have overlooked something more simple. Sway bar end-links are new...actually that's what prompted me to start the comment...I replaced the OEM with moog...soooo much nicer.
Please help. I have a 97 Civic 210000 miles that knocks under load at 1800-2500 rpm... Factory spec for ignition timing is 12 degrees before tdc. I had to put a jumper wire in the connecter and set it to 8 degrees to make the knock go away.. But when you take the jumper out it goes back to 12 degrees and knocks again... What should I do? thanks
My son has a 2007 honda accord v6 ex-l i hope i can apply this to his coz i dont have the $1500 the shop wants to fix it. Just spent $4000 on other family members cars! ☹️ And other videos ARE CRAPPY☹️☹️☹️
I'm assuming you checked that the power steering pump and reservoir were replaced previously. There were TSBs for an updated updated pump and reservoir that fixes a hard-to-turn power steering issue. (...But depending on when it happens to your friend. The TSB stated the fix was only if it happened at low RPMs or when cold, if I remember correctly).
Hello I hope you can help me.
2006 Acura TL steering rack mounting rubber bushingd is broken.
Can those bushings be replaced?
Eric I have been with Honda since 1977 and opened my own Honda/Acura shop in 1986
like watching your vid's, do you hate those power steering pressure hose's as much as I do!! lol some of them are crazy, come to Arizona and work for me, no rusted bolts!
this is the ONE video by Eric where I was lost most of the time. Im very familiar with the parts and even Im asking "wait is that front or rear? Drivers side or passenger? wait where the f is THAT bolt?" I love Eric and just this isnt helpful. Nor do I have a lift..........thought we were doing it in our garage?
Hello to all. I have a question for Eric and also for all. I have a Tucson 2.7 v6 year 2006. Can you please tell me if the pcv valve is like a valve through which you can only blow one way?
And at the other end you can not blow?
Because I bought a new pcv valve and can blow it on both sides like older pcv valve. It is true that from outside need to blow harder (less air)
I want to know if this valve should be like the vacuum to pull the burned gas vapors ?
Or new one and old one pcv valve are bad ?
Thank you.
The 2005-2006 Odyssey are notorious for leaking on the rack and pinion steering and Honda has a service bulletin out for it. I don't think this is a DIY job at home unless you have a floor lift. There is no way to get access to all of those nuts and bolts from the bottom of the car if you are on your back. He had a hard time to reach some fasteners and to snake the old rack out. Plus, not many people will have that many engine and tranny jacks like Eric does. The only way is if you have a friend like Eric who has a shop or you can rent a shop time some where. Plus the making the mess on the floor that will rile up the wife. On the stabilizer links, I got all of my stabilizer links out without any broken any of them. The key is let it sit after the application of the penetrating oil for some time and use only hand tools. And yes, you turn the nut, not the bolt like Eric did. He simply does not have time to wait for the penetrating oil to work so he ended up broke most of them. This video is informative but I think I will pass on this repair unless I have to drop the tranny to repair a rear seal leak and do this at the same time. One more thing, Eric has all kind of room from under the car and on top of the car to torque the nuts and bolts back to specs but he didn't. Most of us won't have that much room to stick a torque wrench except for the engine cradle bolts, tranny mount nuts, and the fasteners on top. Lastly, I would not recommend running the engine while trying to purge the air from the PS system, you could ruin the PS pump, it is not designed to be run dry. He should have lift the car up slightly, and turn the wheel lock to lock several times while adding PS fluid to purge the air, then start the engine, turn the wheel and stop it. Check the fluid level and fill again before starting the car. If you hear the high pitch noise, the pump is running dry, you should minimize the time that it does.
How much difference is there between this one and a 2002
They aren't the most useless, it's just that manufacturers save costs. Properly, that hex bolt should've had a plastic hex cap. Do they do it? No. Does it keep rust out of the hex, thus keeping the structural integrity of the head? Yes. eBay has the plastic caps, i bought and installed them on all the cars i've touched, those that returned, where i've replaced old bolts, have never rusted again, some are 3 years old now.
Eric, I had a friend replace the PS pump on my 2006 odyssey. So it worked nicely I took it around the block then it stiffened up and now is not easy unless i step on the gas. He said it could be the gear box which this video describes in excellent detail. Any ideas?
Can you do this on jack stands? Just bought a 2008 odyssey its loosing power steering fluid pretty quick. Praying its a hose thats leaking and not the rack 😭 this looks like fun to do..
$50 the problem was the tranny under mounts! I just did these 2 mounts on TL'04 and realised the steering is now much improved... when the mounts are splits the tranny floats and pushes on the axles thus pulling on the rack through its tie-rods
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Why did you start the car in the garage without the Garage door open? That is dangerous with all the emissions they could kill u.
Damn I'm 18 minutes in this video and I dont think I should try to attempt this job by myself. Never done this and I dont think I will make it all the way through. Shoot! This is a big job to do. How much does this cost to do this job?
I used a reverse pig dick extractor to get a grip in the end of a stabi link once. It was that or cut it out and get another. Worked fairly well. Surprisingly. Nice video Eric. Steering rack is really one of those jobs I'm dreading doing. Most of what i work on is rusty as hell and on some of them the only way to lower the subframe would be to cut it out.