The Skins Before CS:GO & CS2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- In the early 2000s I'd spend every waking day customizing CS 1.6. I fell so deeply in love with the game that I even continued to develop for the game way past its prime. Reason being, that it's still the only game I play that truly lets you customize the entirety of it.
Here we discuss how not only CS:GO took the fun out of customizing gun skins, but how an entire industry figured out a way to sell you gun models when they were free to download during the primordial era of online gaming in the early 2000s.
We can't go back in time, but here I recount my experiences with skinning and modeling during those times. I hope this gives the generation who developed along my side and new comers to this lore some perspective on what those times were like, and how beautiful they were.
Gaming will never be the same, but at least we can reflect on it.
This channel does not upload regularly. Thank you for enjoying the video and feel free to share your experiences with modeling and skinning during the early 2000s with GoldSource games.
Get the knife model here:
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Qman1 - Electric Fortress
Vin-LTD - Flying Metal Low Gear
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great video brotha
Hey, ratman
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The ending makes me emotional. Sorry folks. 😢
Bro don't worry, we feel the same.
Too bad the modding is a thing of the past.
To me, CoD Black Ops 3 is the final game to see a decent modding support.
But don’t be sad, at least all these old games are still alive thanks to the modding scene :)
That alien smoking a bong is EPIC
Same feels man.. i feel so nostalgic about old CS :/ started as a kid back then the games gave u more "freedom". Everything was community made that was real magic, CS1.6 and all the mods that was really special but most of us didint aprreciate it .. then moving to CS: Source where i did not spend much time. Played mostly surf maps, then again the CSGO came, didint play it and other cs game for years were less and less played by me, other games came where ive spend many, many hours from mmorpgs like Shayia, World of Warcraft to league and other games i still play till this day with pauses and then in 2016 I`ve started playing CS:GO soon i found Zombie Escape, always feel so nostalgic when i think about ZE on CSGO :c later on in 2017 ZE server where Ive played died bcs of some stooopid people n drama :/ that was biggest server in my country always 64/64 players :/ stopped playing again didint want to play on other servers which soon also started dying out but ive made friends for life there on my first server... after that i stopped playing but later on tried many times with friends ive meet there to revive the sever we loved :/ nothing came out of it... i started to play Planetside 2, PUBG and later on Warzone and games ive mentioned, more than before with friends and then again in 2019 we found half dead Zombie Escape server that was barely alive, many people from community of the first and now dead server incl my close friends I`ve found there came to this new "promised land" we had great time but this server also died mostly bcs machine server was on was shit and after our group of like 10-15 players came and played daily server in few weeks became 64/64 but machine was so bad everybody lagged, crashes and server died after few great months later on we also tried to revive this one on new machine but people in community burned out bcs of failure of first server and failed tries of his revival, death of this server and everything :/ later on same year we started to play Classic World of Warcraft good times and same year i did come back to older versions with a friend and stayed in CS Source till now and man only there i found how much did they shallow the cs games..
CS Source felt so much "freely" much more skill dependant with many things for example BHOP was much harder but u could make better speeds if u knew how to do it and it felt "right" but in csgo it is kinda blocked with kinda "automatic help" and its muuuch easier and less skill dependant :c this "freedom" from gameplay perspective made many funny gameplay situations in CS:S thanks to this u could use terrain, skills and everything more efficient cuz u kinda "slided across map" engine thing and it felt rly magical compared to csgo saying it even tho i have spend great time in csgo and have good and bittersweet memories with it... if u dont understand just type in yt "zombie escape css montage" many players of average or simply good and god tier skills doing montages it can help u understand what i meant by more "freedom" also much more Zombie Escape maps than in CSGO much more custom stuff, new maps still goin out and its all made in CS:S Source SDK and later on ported to cs:go even tho u would expect other way around in 2022. But all great things come to and end :/ that not that small community that ive joined in CSS in 2019 was sticking together like good friends or a family, well not as much these days as before cuz people start their adult lifes, and they dont have as much time as before, they have less and less time and come less and less to play on the server incl me :/ which is kinda sad and dissapointing the less time i get to play, coming there once in a while and not finding people ive used to play with is sad:/ adult life is dissapointing in this regard :c miss the times where opening 1.6/cs:s/go and joining an server made me feel at home all the bros ive made there, and in other games sad we dont have as much time as before that was really good time when i think about it :c
Ehhhhh lets hope that if new CS will be created in future it will resemble more 1.6 and CS:S than GO and that it will have great focus on community servers, hope thanks to that new communites like the ones we are/were part of will be born.
I love reading reflections like this. There really is a whole generation of people with unshared feelings like this just living life out there. I hope these stories don't get lost to time. Thank you for sharing.
CSS is better than CSGO imo, it feels much more fun to play, its using the same engine as GO, but got that fun feeling
I might have not been able to witness the birth of the modding scene in CS 1.6, but I was able to see the peak of it around the 2010s.
.. damn, those were the days of custom stuff everywhere.. it was good
Bro, I feel the exact same way about Half Life 2 Deathmatch.
When I was a little kid back 2006, I would sit beside my dad at our family computer and watch him play HL2DM on his time off, and every time I saw it I was blown away.
The sheer insanity of the custom maps and how he always knew the secrets hidden on each one... fake walls, invisible platforms, that one low gravity hev suit pickup on dm_spookyface...
It was just so much fun to watch, and he even let me play it from time to time (though I wasn't good at it at all).
The main thing I loved most was all the creative maps people made. The giant room maps... the many bizarre killbox maps... and the genuine strategy he and the other players used in memorizing secrets and one-uping each other.
Then, when I finally get my own PC years later and get the game myself... I'm left in utter disappointment.
There aren't any regularly populated DM servers anymore, and the ones that are still going have this stupid *"HYPER FAST RESPAWN INSTA KILL LOW GTAVITY"* mode that is not fun at all and rapidly tiring.
Now the game is mostly dead and only played by groups of non-English speakers here and there.
This, in tandem with the shutdown of LittleBigPlanet 2's servers and Microsoft's acquisition of Minecraft, feels like an era where free creativity in games is dying... and I wish it wasn't.
Man I wish this topic wasn't so niche, your content is amazing man and you deserve a shit ton more appreciation for it!
Seeing all the old-school modding tools looks funny.
I love how losers nowadays brag about wasting their lives spending all their money on something you could download in the good old days.
Also, as much as matchmaking is convenient I don't enjoy the fact I can't choose exactly what I get to play. And the communities you can find in 1.6...
I was a born in the mid 2000's and never had the chance to experience these old cs games as I had never gotten a pc at that young age therefore my first valve games were cs:go and tf2, but seeing the modding possibilities before and also am so sad I never got to experience it.
my pirated copy came with installed mods back then
The modding scene for CS 1.6 was awesome (anyone remember the CDG forum?). The reward of making your own models and skins and seeing them in-game (and being used by others!) was just so satisfying. I'm amazed that some of my old work lives on in some form on Gamebanana. Excellent video!
I don't recall the CDG forum, but I was a big time enthusiast of the CSBanana site. I love how we all got a chance to experience real modding supported by developers. Glad this little video found its way to you!
MEGA VIDEO MAN !
Bruh im researching 1.6 modding scene in 2024 and made a few skins, im boutta sell all my cs2 skins since game is dying anyways, loved csgo mechanics, devs not updating cs2, i mean why would they when they receive millions a month not doing anything, because of people who open lootboxes with worst odds the world has seen, legal gaslight daylight robbery.
Playing fxcking crab game or some sht is funnier than cs2 currently
It was the golden age of self expression in a virtual environment.
Not only did you own the product you bought, but you could make it sing after your own will... something that's saddly all but gone from modern games.
I use to make huge amounts of maps for Doom 2, Quake 1, Quake 2, Half-Life, StarCraft and WarCraft 2. Modding the hell out of those games was equally as fun as playing them.
For me winter and summer breaks were me on my old Pentium 2 PC churning with ideas around modding.
It was the golden age.
I love this comment so much because it makes me feel at peace that I wasn't alone doing this. I went through some evolutions in my life where I thought modding games wasn't a real hobby, but it always pulled me back and felt good to do. It truly was were I felt self expression. Not many other things in life did that for me. Absolutely love this comment.
inb4 activision stole your idea of a knife skin of an alien ripping a bong, add it in CoD, and paywall it inside a $25 battle pass bundle
HAHA
I remember replacing the knife with a fish from csbanana and the ported source weapon models too... Fun times :)
CSGO skins cant even compare to cs1.6 or CSS, in fact many great animators for AAA games, started with CSS and CS1.6. Technically CSGO and 2 still have modding support but for some reason it's not on gamebanana, there is one really talented chinese skin creator who makes insane skins. I would've been fine with CSGO's original skins if they were tied behind progression bar something like the camos from COD. It would've made countless replayability and it could've became my fav CS game, because grinding for skins would've been really fun. Paying for 300$ for a skin made in photoshop is just ridiculous.
i was born in 2003 and this video is still super relevant to me because i grew up in the balkans lol
Big corporations are cadhgrab in today video gamea
good vid i was the same with source although i never learnt how to make them myself i used to love getting customs skins and models and animations
Man this video is truly emotional.
Back then gaming was like - buy the game once, and it's all yours!
Nowadays you buy the game once and you get unfinished product + you have to pay for skins and maps and dlcs. It has become too much monetary
And btw, to this day counter strike modding community has been creating amazing mods like valorant skins etc
Funny story about making my own skins as a kid: i already had a pirated version of cs that changed the menu background, characters, weapon skins... But the way I made my own skins was to open the skin file in paint, paint over it with bright colors, and then save it with the same filename. I did the same with textures 😂
That's how it all starts! Cool story. :)
@@krazzy6440 also recently i got back into mapping, i followed you on gamebanana, username is assault enjoyer
Where can I download the alien knife model :)
Here ya go!
gamebanana.com/mods/456730
While I'm happy for the things we have now, I sometimes wish gaming industry didn't grow as big as it is today.
I love hearing the stories you tell. Always brightens my day when there’s a new uploaded. Keep up the awesome work man!!!
i agree that csgo isnt fun, but old cs titles like CSS and CS 1.6 is Fun, the community and the modding is why CSS and CS 1.6 Fun
Liked and subscribed.
I remember getting into minecraft from my friends at school and eventually i found out about mods. I wanted gun mods so badly but i didnt know how to install them. i thought all you had to do was download the mods and open the file... i was so sad because i couldnt figure out how to install them. even to this day i still struggle to installl mods in some games and they almost never work. particularly amxx mod x for 1.6.
Great story telling! Had me hooked and smiling all the time :)
Exactly my thoughts too and what's fueling my nostalgia, but anyway I don't play that much but I aknowledge this was a golden era for gaming which sadly a lot of young gamers will never know. Modding was all over the place in the PC gaming scene, especially counter-strike which had hundred of servers with custom maps, skin-packs, mods (think KZ, Surf, Jailbreak, zombie run) I know CSGO still has it in someways but the competitive aspect of CSGO has taking over and now people focus on getting the META of the game, streaming etc... The fun and the spirit slowly fades away and now peoples who seek it turn to others games that still offer a bit of freedom and supports custom made content.
i was watch the csgo video in 2022 and i want play the game so bad but fun fact i no have a pc and i was think can i play cs go on mobile and on that day i spend a 30 minute to searching on youtube goggle and i find this game cs 1.6 but you can play on the phone wtf
and when i intall it and play on mirage maps and i was wow you can play the game online and offline (with bots) and i was play that game 2 hour every single day
until i realise i was kinda bored in this game no skins no new weapon model and the same map i ve play
on that day i was searching on cs 1.6 skins and danm so many skins on internet and the special about that the skins are free i mean i hane no money for purcase the stupid skins on game
and i ve search map,custom characters
cs modded like cs mod csgo weapon
cs extreme cs call of duty weapon
and play on server i like this game alot
and ya' thas my whole story about cs 1.6
i hope i can find the other games like cs you know custom skins like that.
tbh skins are something that was inevitable. The only alternative would have been valve not hosting any servers (since they would have to rely solely on game purchases alone), but then we wouldn't have had a good matchmaking/competitive system and maybe we'd have had skins introduced via DLCs eventually... which would have been worse imo.
Dude, I remember being so excited to download a bunch of custom models for every weapon back when Gamebanana was still called FPSBanana. It's disheartening to see the direction modern games have gone in. It's all so standardized, almost sterile. The game that made me realize this was Overwatch. I remember when it first came out, I was sure that Blizzard would eventually release mapping tools, allow for custom configs, custom dedicated servers, stuff like that. And then as the years went by, it seemed like the game only grew more restrictive. CS has been steadily moving in the same direction, and it's now worse than ever with CS2.
The shift towards SBMM was also a huge factor that favored this new sanitized presentation. The gap between esports and casual gameplay grew smaller and smaller, which lead to a lot of people taking the game way too seriously, which in turn lead to a more frustrating experience.
There's a reason people still play 1.6, CSS, and TF2, for example. They've got an active community keeping the game alive through custom content. And that happened because the devs trusted the players with their tools. I can't imagine a modern studio releasing anything akin to the Source SDK for a multiplayer game these days. And that sucks.
Sadly, people who didn't experience that kind of freedom to fuck around with their games don't really understand how valuable it truly was.
I like cs 1.6 cuz it runs on my 1gb ram with 100 fps 😊
I only played team deathmatch on cs go but it still sucked. In cs 1.6 and source, 99% of the servers had respawn in base and it was awesome, not to mention the costum maps on war3ft+respawn.
The community on cs go sucked and so does cs 2 and team deathmatch is gone lol.
Damn, what a beautiful video I really thought you had way more subscribers because of the quality of it, thank you for your work I appreciate it lot
What was a bit lame about custom skins and models is that nobody else could see them. That's a key difference with CS:GO. If you get a skin then other players can see it.
I'm glad I found your channel, my dad raised me on that "Carmackian Hacker Culture" when it came to games and I share a lot of the same thoughts you said in this video, great stuff.
This actually gave me tears... So true and sad..
Hey I can't find the Cs skin shack website, Can you give me a link for it? It looks cool
hey mate what's the music? especially the ending
Qman1 - Electric Fortress
Vin-LTD - Flying Metal Low Gear
The last song is not available to the public, I commissioned it for video projects for personal use. Sorry boss.
@@krazzy6440 oh well, i tried. thanks a lot man
@@krazzy6440 gee, it's pretty fucking embarrassing to post a video about "the community creating custom content out of a labor of love" and then gatekeep the outro song of your video. are you for real dude? get a grip.
@@ToxicKlay He is creating videos for us, "custom content out of labor of love". He has all rights not to tell us the song. I don't even know how you made this connection.
Living up to your name, are you.
if the classic knife had the original animations, it'd surely be in the S tier section along with the M9
Man more people should've seen this
6.9k??????? this video was amazing
I know im late to this but there is a way to make your own cago skins or even download them i haven’t done it in a while but im pretty sure you can use them on community servers
had a great skin pack that played a marlyn manson song when Ts won and that song from matrix when CTs won and a dude would say "put em on tape and let em hang, we're outta here"
I expected a video essay on custom skins, not to be catching feels with my gut, thanks a lot
I agree, but i love gambling and selling skins 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Still useing a stillseries custom hands lol 😂
You are wrong tho about not being allowed to mod csgo.
market crashing after china sees this
god i hate video essay style videos.. so cringe
Great video man deserves way more views.
see my skins bro
u deserve more subscribers ❤
Yea I enjoyed that!
I concur with you 100%. The days of downloading skins from FPSBanana (now known as Gamebanana), CS BG Info, CS HLDS Ru, TWHL Info, CStrike-Planet, Todocounter and possibly plenty of other defunct sites and blogs.... Are gone.
Gaming was simply different then when these sites were relevant.
Yo updated the title
My man! So glad I found your channel! So much nostalgia watching your videos of CS 1.6, the resemblance is so much with my childhood! And now this, perfect expression of what I feel about csgo paywall skins!
we're the same age, this felt like I made a video about a very specific niche topic no one I know would understand. Literal children making maps and skins fueled the modern dev community lol. Thanks man... seeing the skinshack website for the first time since I last downloaded a file from it was surreal. Thank homie
yeah man, customization in these old games was so good. Even tho i hate cs 1.6 i really understand you since i remember being 10 years old, going to the doomworld or zdoom forums and downloading every gzdoom mod i could find. Pretty cool.
CS1,6 BEST GAME ALL TİME
You said it best!
great content my man.
the bit about feeling like a badass because you had your customized guns you chose really resonated with me. I remember thinking "damn... this is the best game of all time" playing on a Zombie Escape server with all my custom weapon models, hehe. good video
ok boomer
lol! I have a 50k csgo inventory and it feels like I just got an upgrade in cs2! My knifes looking stupid glossy!!!
you mentioned carmack like 5 times, why don't you go over to idtech instead of being a valve megacorp mindslave for all time? Boomer shooters have never been more popular and all the source code is GPL
That skinshack website had the best flash intro
I can't recall it. I just remember it loading into the browser hub. Interested to see it!
thank you for showing us your blood type