Why Kirby is GARBAGE in Melee, and how he changed in Project M

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  • Kirby has always been seen in Super Smash Bros Melee, as being a low tier character. Never really succeeding that well in the meta due to many flaws the character has. Whether its his stubby limbs, lack of consistent KO moves, and just overall not competeing well with the fast paced environment of the Melee meta. Kirby has also been heavily outshinned by characters like Jigglypuff who do what Kirby is trying to do gameplan wise, but just way better. Kirby was mostly buffed during the transition to Project M/Project Plus, but he still lands in the lower tiers even in that game, despite all the buffs.
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ความคิดเห็น • 66

  • @fox.4214
    @fox.4214 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    “He wants to be jigglypuff so bad”
    But wasn’t smash 64 jigglypuff made because she could basically use Kirby’s model?

    • @The_Batman_
      @The_Batman_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah?

    • @DJFoxy-TheKitsune
      @DJFoxy-TheKitsune 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don’t get the connection you’re trying to make 😅 he’s just saying Puff is just better than Kirby in Melee, that’s why Kirby wants to be Jigglypuff in Melee

  • @PJWooperIsBack
    @PJWooperIsBack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Kirby was like this in melee was because people liked to complain about Kirby in 64

  • @jakegoldman5804
    @jakegoldman5804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    my roommate has never gone to a tournament and legit destroys me with kirby in P+. it hurts

  • @Kasunoske
    @Kasunoske ปีที่แล้ว +17

    i just woke up with this idea for kirby, change his copy abilites to the way they work in his game: if he suck up mario or bowser , make him fire kirby, olimar make him UFO kirby . if he sucks up a link or and FE character make him sword kirby. etc

    • @samuelbrown1283
      @samuelbrown1283 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are a genius, you MUST make a mod for that

  • @sirejohnson3971
    @sirejohnson3971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Noo why my smash main is worst in melee 😭 F for melee kirby pls👍

  • @Eldoofus
    @Eldoofus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    8:37 ... Kirby's Dash Attack Was supposed to be a multi-hit?... DUDE, I'VE LIVED YEARS NOT KNOWING THAT! HOW DID THEY SCREW IT UP SO BADLY?!

    • @merrybluue6784
      @merrybluue6784 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's melee

    • @pokeblueblur5755
      @pokeblueblur5755 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It never multi hits

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pokeblueblur5755 It was multi hit in brawl and smash 4. They clearly changed it because his flaming tackle dash attack, even as it was more loyal to the universe he belonged to, was worse than the multi hit kick, at least in melee before they changed it back in ultimate

  • @Kingsbeak
    @Kingsbeak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bro but blue kirby is unbeatable

  • @blubrdfg
    @blubrdfg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Kirby's tilts and wavedash are actually amazing in melee but otherwise, great vid!

    • @amarobro2298
      @amarobro2298 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No theyre not

    • @The_Batman_
      @The_Batman_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@amarobro2298just see for yourself

    • @someoneelse1348
      @someoneelse1348 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@amarobro2298yes they are? Hus wavedash is pretty good, has a great set of tilts, is just that everything else is really awful except for one or two things

    • @amarobro2298
      @amarobro2298 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@someoneelse1348 the only decent things of Kirby are his tilts, not even good just amazing, his wavedash is literally ass

  • @evanwilliams6406
    @evanwilliams6406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kirby in Smash 64-Awesome=Kirby in Melee-Bad

  • @javianmonserrate8930
    @javianmonserrate8930 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun fact
    Pichu speed is 1.74 in melee and the 5th fastest character

  • @spowbits3696
    @spowbits3696 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a child i used to play Kirby sucking somone up flying down released then into dead and fly up again😂😂

  • @GrimDim
    @GrimDim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Kirby's combo game ain't that bad and I really think him being garbage is overplayed but, so be it.

    • @SSB_Seal
      @SSB_Seal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah I completely agree, this video is extremely hyperbolic, and it kinda just reiterated a lot of the most common talking points. No character is truly that unusable in melee, and Captain Pretzel has been making it work with Kirby.

    • @Chronos774
      @Chronos774 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has potential but I wouldn't call his combos the worst in the game.

    • @ImCookieSparx
      @ImCookieSparx ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No, Kirby’s combo game in melee is the worst by far. No solid finishers, too much low air speed to connect with any moves. There’s only like 3 combos that all start with up tilt His kit is just to weird and unfitting to combo with. Sure, PM and P+ really did improve a lot of his kill options and mid combos, but still one of the least combo characters to ever exist in fgc.

    • @peter42466
      @peter42466 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you accidentally go to 64 Kirby because for your information the only Kirby throws that work are bad combo tools his up tilt leads into like one follow up also even if he had a good combo game he wouldn’t be good because of his bad approach tools hella slow speed very light weight and weak kill options

    • @thyduke3010
      @thyduke3010 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peter42466 how dare you say that about 64 kirby

  • @stephenschuster3555
    @stephenschuster3555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There’s nothing Kirby has the puff doesn’t except for the knee that is Kirby up air but in the context of her kit puff air is also rly good bc it combos into rest

  • @gaalxystar1873
    @gaalxystar1873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    even on Ulitmate he's still bad at least he's better than melee

    • @wolfdragox5563
      @wolfdragox5563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Brawl was the last game where Kirby was actually decent

    • @djdrizzy9139
      @djdrizzy9139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mid tier like Brawl. Kirby is decent enough in Ultimate.

  • @ssbmwaddles
    @ssbmwaddles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you don't tech down throw kirby can Redgrab you forever

  • @HospitalTaDaronn-mc8mz
    @HospitalTaDaronn-mc8mz ปีที่แล้ว

    Give to ness a home run bat to his range

  • @shayboual1892
    @shayboual1892 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be nice if you made better melee clips, if you use the 20XX mod pack it's not too hard to create cleaner clips

  • @moreedcola6837
    @moreedcola6837 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The #1 rule in competitive Melee:
    If they don’t say ‘HIYAAAA’ they suck

  • @Mote.
    @Mote. ปีที่แล้ว

    I never see protect melee talked about. Its not popular. Is it good?
    Is it not as popular because its not an official game and Nintendo would shut it down??

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Community is small and people would still play other smash games like melee and ultimate
      Yes, but project m is still being played to this day. They didn't shut down the game. They shut down development of it. People get those concepts backwards because they think development=game even though it clearly isn't. MK11 is still being played to this day and it's no longer being updated, but that doesn't mean it was shut down.

  • @RandallPacks
    @RandallPacks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    idk man my kirby kinda shnasty

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Only on Yoshi's Story 😅

    • @lebrea4453
      @lebrea4453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ZachHonest Kirby do be getting the Randall bias

  • @mulldrifter6040
    @mulldrifter6040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just give him 64's Up-Tilt and Down Air and watch him climb up 3 tiers

  • @HospitalTaDaronn-mc8mz
    @HospitalTaDaronn-mc8mz ปีที่แล้ว

    Give a hammer to mario to his range

  • @HospitalTaDaronn-mc8mz
    @HospitalTaDaronn-mc8mz ปีที่แล้ว

    Sakurai just a bort kirby

  • @qwertz143
    @qwertz143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still garbage in PM 😔

  • @stewiegriffin2032
    @stewiegriffin2032 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bowser is better than Kirby.

  • @javianmonserrate8930
    @javianmonserrate8930 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact
    Kirby speed in smash melee is 1.40
    Bowser is 1.14
    Jigglypuff and zelda speed is 1.12 the slowest characters in the game

  • @skazzycfc
    @skazzycfc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn I was actually good at using Kirby in melee lol

  • @graftongazaway5633
    @graftongazaway5633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kirby was made in 1992
    Pokémon was made in 1995
    Kirby is not trying to be like jigglypuff

    • @Pal42_
      @Pal42_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      tell me you didn't get the point without telling me you didn't get the point

    • @graftongazaway5633
      @graftongazaway5633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pal42_ yeah sorry I don’t get it

    • @Pal42_
      @Pal42_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@graftongazaway5633 he's just saying Jigglypuff in Melee is better in every way, as in, if there was one Melee character Kirby wanted to be, that would be Jigglypuff

  • @mnloring7867
    @mnloring7867 ปีที่แล้ว

    People need to search for "Triple R" for Kirby highlights

  • @HospitalTaDaronn-mc8mz
    @HospitalTaDaronn-mc8mz ปีที่แล้ว

    Give a hammer to kirby to his range