My CHEAP Audi RS6 is RUINED!!
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In today’s video we are back in the Audi RS6! And it’s very bad news for me… - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
You overfilled the engine, its a dry sump so its spat the excess into the PCV system and then its found its way to the lowest point in the system which is the bottom of the intercoolers. That one that was leaking probably already had a boost leak. I highly, highly, doubt you have a major turbo issue with both turbos at the same time. My advice, clean it all out, do a PROPER oil change (that oil looked HORRIBLE) and replace that one IC thats leaking. Then re-start it and monitor for leaks. Check the bottom charge pipes after 10-20 mins of running. If all ok then test drive for a few miles, keep checking if after 3 or 4 checks then it was overfilled and thats your problem. I reckon a 90% chance this is your issue. HTH (ex C6 RS6 owner)
At least do a relative compression test with a scope before starting, just to see if there is anything very obviously wrong with the engine.if something looks wonky then at least you know a normal comp test and leak down is worth the time. Fingers crossed a clean up and fix the boost leak(s?) will sort it!
@@Coldfin9er You could, but there is no real easy way for oil to get into the intake like that and for the engine not to be sounding like a tractor due to a mangled piston or broken cylinder head. I bet the engine was right on max level when he got it. He added 1L oil when cold so it was probably 1L over. He then only had to remove 100ml (after driving the car he replied to my comment saying 100ml removed) so the other 900ml went..... on his floor :)
I have to agree, when turbos leak they will mist the oil rather than pore into the inlet tract, take it all apart clean it change the pcv valve and refill the oil correctly and try it again, and and fix that leaking intercooler
Why did it start pouring out when the engine was started though? Seems more likely that its coming from one of the turbo oil seals to me.
@@MattyEngland Once the engine is running there is air pressure from the turbos, please also note that when stationary it had leaked oil out. Finally, given the amount of oil in the bottom of the intercooler just topping up a bit from what might be coming from a bad turbo would not lead to the amount of oil leaking onto the floor. Overfilled oil and them being filled via the PCV system is way more likely then 2 blown turbos filling it up with that much oil, blown turbo seals are likely to make it smoke and coat the inside, not fill it with oil
Have you thought about getting a bucket?? 😂
I didn’t expect that much oil if I’m honest 😂
Always expect a lot of oil
as you went to the second intercooler hose, i thought "better get a bucket".
Always expect the unexpected when working on cars from auctions. It be good to watch you fix this keep up the great work
Could just paint the floor black, wouldn’t need a bucket then
Watched you work on the 4.2 engine out and loved it. Can’t wait for you to tackle this beast.
When you first got this car, did you potentially over fill it with oil in the first video? Thought this dry sump engine has a specific procedure for checking the oil when it's hot?
Fantastic to watch! Just think of all the great content this car will make!
intercooler? looks more like an oil cooler.
I'll go with overfilled with oil, both turbos gone the same way.. Too coincidental imo. Dry inlets but compressor side of turbos full of oil. There must be at least a litre that came out.. Plus what's still inside the i/c's.. The car would be reporting low oil if that amount disappeared. Drain it, fill it with correct amounts and restest. I think it'll be OK
Check the crank case ventilation system and any oil level overfills… if it was turbos I would expect it to smoke badly at idle and the throttle bodies and Linley system to be coated… doesn’t seem right for turbo seal failures which normally go on the exhaust side of the turbos as well 🤷
Hi. Great vids thanks. Pretty certain it was oil overfill in first vid causing your woes. As others have said probably best to check this out before any major surgery. Best of luck.
Gonna have to do some valve cleaning and fresh plugs as well then😬, good luck and I can't wait to watch this mega job being done by you 😎
Well thats where that liter of oil you put in went 😂😂
Loving the time lapse music 👍👍👍
I had a Turbo 2 Renault 5 years ago and had a similar issue as you with the intercooler filling up with oil. After an inspection it turned out to be the turbo with a big crack in it. A replacement turbo and it was all sorted. Hopefully you get this sorted.
great future content coming up. Looking forward to it
Ah mate I feel for you! You're the man to fix it though.
It wouldn't be saving Salvage if there wasn't any salvage to save. Good luck on the rebuild dude.
The amount of oil smoke it spewed out on your first test run I'm surprised you didn't suspect the turbo seals had failed and oil would be in the intercooler
Best of luck, mate. Out comes the engine again. But you have the knowledge and skills to fix it.
Nice to see the [presumably] Skoda lurking in the background. Good Luck with the RS6
Hell, that’s going to be expensive and very time consuming. Saying that though, you are a dab hand at getting those engines out and back in again.
Isn’t this from when you overfilled it with oil? Turbo seal gone from oil pressure ?
You really do love a big project Dean lol looking forward to this one as I was glued to the RS4 I know it was a massive headache for you but it did make some fantastic content, best of luck on tackling this beast of an engine the RS4 will feel small in comparison
Good you found your boost leak :) and hopefully not the turbos, just been overfilled with oil over time and collected in the coolers. Clean it out and run it and see if you get more oil before pulling the engine.
I would have cried, but you took a deep breath and moved forward, well done!
just a thought, but it could also be an issue with the PCV valve. I know that the 5.2 in the A8 / S8 had an issue with them and the oil separator to the extent that Audi did a TSB for it. Might be worth having a dig around for it. I saw it somewhere as im a big fan of the A8 so if i find it i'll post a link up here for it.
My money is on the fact that you probably overfilled it with oil and the excess oil was forced in to the intake through the crank case ventilation, accumulating in the intercooler. Might also be blown seals on the turbos due to excess oil pressure. Anyway, I have no experience or specific knowledge on these engines, but I have experience with an issue somewhat related on on old turbo diesels where excessive blow-by on the piston rings cause excessive crank case pressure, forcing oil vapor in to the intake through the PCV system, accumulating in the intercooler. My intercooler was actually dripping with oil because of this.
My thoughts exactly, but not as poetic as you put it.
Have you over filled it with oil ? Do a full oil and filter change, run the engine again and see if there is any oil leaking. I don’t think it’s as bad as you may think potentially seal due to the overfill
Wow that was a LOT of oil 😳 Don't think anyone was expecting that 😂 Looking forward to the extra content though 👍🏻
Could it be the PCV system? If the turbo(s) are good, check the PCV. And the oil level in the engine…..
Possible turbo seals, check if the previously installers used a oil reducer on the turbo oil pupe feed, a lot of people forget to install them when they replace turbos it the cartridges . That noise was your engine running out of engine oil 😅, you also need to get that intercooler sealed / repaired.
I'm looking forward to the rebuild of this engine, at least you know how to take them out, hopefully you won't have to take it out 3 or 4 times 🤞🤞🤞
Gutted for you mate, you'll get it sorted pal....
Wow, my heart stopped when you pulled off them IC pipes Dean 😵💫 Big job to sort this problem, with that mileage on it, will there be a profit in this motor for you.? The thought of a V10 rebuild is mouth watering but financially disastrous, albeit fantastic content for the channel. 👍😎
Same as the old b5 s4. Turbo failure = engine removal. Good news is you could upgrade the turbos and intercoolers while you're in there!
I think your first port of call Dean would be to drain and fill with correct amount of oil ,reason being i highly doubt that both turbos have gone .Also why didn't it scream warnings with that amount of oil in the IC'S .My guess is it was overfilled .This would be a good and cheaper option for starters .Really hope this is the issue bro
Having two turbos fail at the same time is unlikely unless there is another underlying issue that caused the failures, low oil pressure, high oil pressure, contaminated oil etc. If the turbo seals have failed, it's a simple job for a turbo company to fix, the hard bit is getting them out! We also offer Stage 1 and Stage 2 hybrid upgrades for these.
Your the man who can sort this car out Dean good luck matey 🤞👊
Looking forward to the future videos on this one
really looking forward too the next vid on this!
Such a shame but great content, I'm sure you can get it fixed. Good luck
A man of your talent will have it done by next Tuesday, & that's with a weekend off for family time 👍
Feel for you on this one mate. Sinking feeling isn't the word. Best of luck with it.
Ive watched a lot of what you put on here. Your more than capable of sorting it. I hate working on cars. I will stick to trucks ha
I have the interactive workshop manual for these. They are virtual machines so not something I can send but if you need parts or procedures looking up, I can help.
I had the same few years back with an Vauxhall Astra G Bertone turbo, the PCV system was clogged and all gases made pressure into the sump, pushing the oil through the turbo seals into the intercooler and exhaust (it was smoking like a 1800 locomotive). Once i repaired it , all went away without issues on turbo itself.
Hi Dean. You must have a High Pain Threshold. Some of your past vehicles have Bitten you but this one
makes it to number one in my book. Hope it works out whichever path you decide to go down.
See you in the next one. 👍👍
My car did the same - and still does even though the turbos have been rebuilt. There are something like 10 non-return valves in the PVC/breather system - if any have failed then oil can leak from the turbos, so far I've found 4 failed on my car. If the oil/breather system isn't right turbos can leak when running and also when the engine is off because the bottom of the oil tank is above the centre line of the turbos.
Oh 😯
If you can get to them, can you wiggle the turbos?
Might be a "simple" fix?
looking forward to this series 👌
Brilliant Tech !
Damn mate hope it doesn’t turn into a spiralling disaster. Saw you out delivering a Audi etron yesterday 🙂👋
Jeeez, best of luck , i love these things, favourite sound
Mrc tuning for some goodies ? And refresh whilst out.
Your very lucky that it didn't run up on its on oil that was in the intercooler, or other wise u would have been saying goodbye to the engine and getting a new one. Keep up with the good work bro Rob the Welsh boy 👍👍🏴🏴
That's normally only diesels as they run on compression petrol engines require a spark so as soon as the key is off they stop
Dean, I feel for you mate after all that work. Just take it one day at a time buddy.
Jeez that sucks! Perhaps just one turbo has gone and put oil in the intercooler, as the intercooler is shared with both turbo's perhaps that's why there's oil in the other hose. I think its very rare for both turbo's to fail the same time, but not impossible. I guess if you are going to have to take the engine out to get to the turbos you may as well sort them both out. Don't want the same thing happening again. Good luck mate
Please don't jump to any conclusions. it might be the turbos, but I wouldn't assume so. These engines have very, very complex charging, lubrication, scavenging, breathing and cooling systems, and the first thing to do is understand all of them, and knock off the easy things first. The place to start is to download and thoroughly digest VAG Self Study Program SSP 431 - Audi RS 6 and pay particular attention to the interaction between the turbo oil drain scavenging and the crankcase breather. The RS6 is different to everything else. Hope that helps, Nick
I'm sure you can sort it out 👍
On mine had lots of smoke ! Did what you did and a shit ton of oil pulled out the hoses learn that I needed to new turbos , I was cheap and wooded two refurbed turbos from eBay cars been good now coming up to 7,000 kilometers
This ridiculous dream estate made me giving this channel an Abo. I absolutely love the v10 rs6 and despite the endless amount of money it wants to keep working properly I’d buy it as soon as I got some money left for having fun😍😍 greetings from Germany👍🏼
It your turbochargers sound okay and boosting fine check your PCV system.
Turbo seals mate. Thanks for the vid.
Both Turbos going at same time hmmmmm, unlikely me thinks I pray it’s not that for you , best luck can’t wait fo next vlog
Wow, when that oil poured out!
Engine likely has lots of blowby the PCV probably can't cope.....the Intercooler hole is creating suction of that oil.
PCV Operation? How much blow bye is there? could be as bad as buggered piston or pistons, I would compression test at this point
Totally off topic. I’m getting a 3.5ton car transporter. What insurance is needed motor trade or haulage as I’m only collecting and delivering?
Have to agree with most comments below re oil overfill. Probably had a boost leak at intercooler too and by the same thing that spilt the pipe maybe ? Clean it all out and flush the inter cooler and replace the split one and try again
Ouch! Great video
Not lucky enough to be able to get a rs6 but I'll have a 2008 s6 tomorrow old but beautiful
Enjoy
Hope the damage is not too bad for you. Also question about the situation in your country. No gas at gas stations and supermarkets cant keep up with the supply. I think you should really consider carreer switch to truck driver, i heard the pay increased a lot. Like the car projects though.
This is going to be interesting!! No bother to you after the last V8 Audi engine out job.
When it rains it definitely pours with Audi's. I'm sure you'll sort this out, could turn into a project high miler Audi.
Good luck 👍
Looks like you have another big job on your hands and it seems VAG don't believe in making it easy to resolve! Some interesting future videos maybe?
Shit luck on your part mate my hart sank for you when you removed the 1st pipe then fell out my arse when took off the 2nd 🙈 I feel your pain bud but keep the chin up and carry on with the good work/videos
gutted for ya Dean if it don't rain it pours, the only thing is like the other RS4 it was fantastic content and showed alot of work so can't wait for that but its more money to spend....
dude i really feel for you,i drive a saab 9.3 tid,it breaks down twice a month,its gotta go..
Would definitely say turbo problems ! Very lucky the oil wasn’t sucked in by engine and causing severe damage! The question is what has caused this ! Bad servicing blocked breathers or overfilled?
Got a question that might make a good subject to cover, my Audi b8 when topping up with fuel, the stations pump just keeps cutting off like it's full, I've noticed a few people have this problem and on a quick search there is hardly any rectification on this subject, if there is it's just all bs, can you help
Mate i love your videos, could watch an hour long one, hint hint 😬
Have you heard of fool me once.... Wasn't your best idea opening that second pipe 🤣 break it for parts and be done with it 😉
Looking forward to this one 👍😎
Time for some hybrid turbos, more power 🤙🏼
whilst the engine is out it may be a good time to start re-freshing some of the hoses etc, i believe that a few common problems with this model are corroded pipes deep in the engine bay along with the rear oil seal, do as much as you can whilst the lump is out.
also maybe worth getting the engine carbon cleaned and a leak down test
I sorted my hoses by chopping the corroded bits in the arch and replacing them with hose but yes, absolutely, if the engine has to come out, hoses and oil pump seal should be done too. A decoke on the intake ports and Injector service are worth it but these don't clog up nearly as badly as the S6 or some other DI engines. When I did mine at 93k miles, there was some carbon in there but I doubt it was enough to affect performance. The only issue with doing compression/leakdown on these is that if they need to be done with the engine warm, there's a lot of stuff that has to come off to get access to the plugs. It would be a struggle to do it and get all 10 tested without it losing temp.
@@cammmy are the gearboxes strong on this model?
@@bigmatt2896very strong. The consensus is that 1,200nm is the safe cut-off, but at that level you want to be careful with kickdown, as if you floor it, load up the engine and it's drops two gears, the shock can snap input shafts. You also want to make sure you change the fluid regularly and occasionally do the bridge seal and the 4 other little tubular seals accessed by dropping the mechatronic unit. Not a huge deal. This is mine, 730bhp and 1000nm
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@@cammmy thanks for the heads up, its certainly a car im looking at right now along with an f10 m5.........choices choices lol
@@bigmatt2896 No problem. Personally, I would go for the RS every time because it's easy to get one as an estate and they are massively tunable. The big issues are the oil pump seal and coolant pipes. Pipes have a workaround, as I did but the oil seal is always going to be a pain. It can be done by specialists with the engine in, but budget for that possibility unless you have a receipt for it. Mine has it but it's not that bad, so I'm just monitoring it. I also use Forte seal conditioner in the oil, which seems to have helped. Just a remap will see one of these at 680BHP and with an exhaust and secondary decat (which will pass MOT) you are looking at 730+, a bit more with down pipes and high flow primary cats. They can be had with at least the exhaust/map already done fairly readily. With a tuned RS, on a cool evening, spooling it on the brakes and letting go will make you crap your pants, even as the driver! It's difficult to describe.
Your garage is really messy…. I love it!
What's the best way to get in touch regarding the RS4?
Turbo seals completely blown out?
Master techs nightmare, engine out job RS6 v10. But they sure beast of a car👍
Drip trays would be a good idea save a lot of mess
Good luck 😮🙏
Holy crap. I need to see that turbo running without the intake hose on 😂
I think the oil is just feeding directly into the intake 😂
@@SavingSalvage nothing like a bit of a runaway to keep us entertained.......but on a petrol........yikes :(
@@SavingSalvage I’m looking forward to seeing that v10 come out. Surely if it’s leaky turbos that’s better than rings?
Nothing like this has ever happened to my 2005 Ford Fusion in it's 16 year life Maybe I should get an Audi? On second thoughts, No!
Unlikely both turbos have gone, and if the seals had gone you would be getting blue white smoke and misting, and not the quantity of oil you dumped out? My money is on over filling (given the oil volume dropped). Perhaps a good sign that your crank breathers and pCV/oil separator are not blocked, although they are probably in need of a good flush through at the same time as the inter coolers.
Possibly turbo seal or the turbo is seeing way to much oil pressure.
Love it cant wait for next 1
Just the turbos I’d imagine
these can be one massive headache and really expensive..i still want one tho lol
From what I recall you have to hold the start button not just press it once
Maybe you overfilled it? Some dry sump cars must be running when you check the oil level.
It’ll be worth it in the end - such a cool unique car
Look on the bright side, if it's not a simple fix as the comments suggest...you have a lot of great content for your channel coming up.
Dry Sump system, doubt it is the turbo's at all. look at the dry sump plumbing.