I BOUGHT A CRASHED AUDI Q4 ELECTRIC CAR.. EV!! BIG MISTAKE??...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- In today's video we take a dive in to the world of crashed EV cars, should I be allowed to work on them with no qualifications? How easy is it to fix? Lets find out.
If you fix it - I will watch.
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You can deactivate the handbrake. Sit in the car and switch on ignition, then switch directly to N, don t try to switch to D or R, directly to N. After that a message pops up on the MMI that says " the roll-away protection will be deactivated" with the options "cancel" and "OK". Press OK and the car will have the handbrake deactivated even if you exit the vehicle. Cheers mate keep up the good work.
there will also be a recovery mode that he's not used.
I know there is a lot of people hate ev’s but Dean , I would love to see you fixing it . Good luck!!!!!
Don’t give up Dean please finish what you started
Fix it! Everyone wants to see the newest car stuff, but no one want to take their car apart. Fix it. and they will watch.
Hats off to you, you have taught me so much and I am 72 it’s great to see you not give up, why do they have to make modern vehicles so hard to work on 🤦♀️
Another wonderful video. This shows exactly why insurance premiums are going through the roof!😢
This is interesting. Especially seeing how EVs are moving the ‘no user serviceable parts’ game on.
Well done Dean for getting the battery sorted. My bmw dealer are charging me £3600 for this on my IX3. Plus the modules one at £1587 another at £355 bolts and gaskets another £200. One dealer took the car and subsequently decided after two weeks they wouldn’t touch it as it is cat S. I would have done it with just the pyro fuse in the original module like you but they only would do the job as per bmw rules. Good on quatrotech for helping you. I think you paid a fair price for it. Please get it fully back on the road. Well done for tackling a witchcraft EV. Most mechanics would be clueless!
I own a non-VAG EV and mine has a tow/recovery mode you can activate from the dash which i feel would have saved you a lot of hassle here. Also other manufacturers make the crash fuses more accessible and require less computer interaction to recover. A lot of the things you're getting annoyed at here aren't EV issues, they are specific Audi/VAG issues. But I'm sure in time they will become regulatory/compliance issues! I think my XFR's place on the drive is safe for another few years yet 😂
Here’s a suggestion. Try pluging 2.2 ohm (or 2.8ohm) resistors in all seatbelt and airbag connectors to let the car think it has all airbags installed, then try to reset the airbag module ( also canbus module should have reset after crash option). Then see if you can reactivate the battery.
This way to dont have to spend the money for all new airbags in case it doesnt work 🤗
Like them or loathe them they aren't going away anytime soon so may as well get used to them so from a curiosity point of view i'm rather interested in this. I'd also like to see you try and fix it and see how it compares to an ICE engined car.
I drive them all the time as we deliver them to customers, I'll be honest, if you're not bothered about cars then they are much smoother and easier to drive. A to B anyway.
@@SavingSalvage Just got rid of my hybrid and gone back to a Petrol Astra but it is 130 BHP like my 3 other Astras but it is a 1.2 turbo 3 pot and so far it is as good.
I recently got rid of a Volvo V60 PHEV, and it was delightful to drive in electric mode.
It is an interesting and brave project Dean.maybe also the best reason I have seen why EV is a flawed plan but not for the reasons we read. These are effectively irreparable at reasonable cost. It confirms why depreciation is catastrophic and that Politicans and well intended owners/ drivers are somewhat in the dark. I fear EV is coming no matter what but the costs of using and owning one will drive things and so far, too complex, too dangerous to repair and still charging problems for most owner. Fix it if you can but I doubt you will make a profit and itis an interesting insight into owning one in old age….you just cannot.🧐😳😳
Take faith from the good ole USA. There are many repair shops repairing Tesla’s every day, even developing their own spares and technology for repairs. There are a few small operators who sre doing repairs in the UK, which needs to grow exponentially to meet demand. We can’t keep writing off new cars for relatively little damage! Much as I would like to see you fix this car, I fear for your personal safety and I think it will be a money pit with no returns for you, unless you want to seek sponsorship from somewhere. You are one brave man Dean👍🇬🇧😎
Hi there, you'll need an Universal Airbag Emulator Resistor Bypass, just plug it in each airbag that triggered, and clear the codes, scan for error codes again to make sure that everything has cleared, then try the learning process again. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for showing the information on replacement of the battery crash fuse,we will all need to work on these cars in the future, may as well start learning now,will be very happy if there's a part 2....Good luck.
11k is a very good price,maybe 3k on repairs an parts..
I’m a electrician and I wouldn’t dick about with that 400v and 450A is no joke especially DC
As you say high amp DC is instant death. Not that AC is any joke mind you. Weird fact my initials are DC my sister's AC and we really really don't get on 😮
As an HV electrical tech as long as you don't short the + & - and brake the battery down (so split it so it's more manageable voltage and current wise) It shouldn't be too bad the cells in the battery will be modular so it can be made safe to work on.
@@plasmaDave Hopefully you can rectify that 😀
@@GaryB007 😂 nice work
@@GaryB007too much resistance I'm afraid 😂
A great watch and it's the first EV I have seen anyone attempt a repair on, and it would be interesting to see if a full repair is viable? Based on the purchase price you would think there would be some profit? Just be careful (or avoid) the high voltage side as that stuff can kill!
Are these VW specific problems. As it seems to be all design and software related it should not use as a general point against EVs... Hope to see you continue this build.
I'd love to see you fix it. I brought an ev myself last year and it's very interesting to see why they are overpiced and the insurance costs so much. Just the control module price was scary.
I'd love to see it fixed, if only to see what other issues may pop up. I'm in the prep stage to convert my cabrio to an EV, would be very interested in your efforts. Thanks for your great content!
Glad you didn’t die Dean! I guess the pyro fuse is buried in the battery to force the repair shop to visually inspect the battery for physical damage before re-energizing?
Dean you are 11k in on this project, im finding it curiously interesting and enjoying the content. Im all for you fixing it and getting back on the road. Sorry if that is not the answer you wanted 😂
To delete the crash data without changing all of the airbags and the module, you can remove the airbag module and temporarily put 2.2k ohm resistors in place of the seatbelt plugs and airbag plugs to emulate a seatbelt/airbag. This will let you enable the drivetrain again and then you can replug all of the original airbag modules and seatbelts and they will throw the old codes like before. When removing the airbag module you should be able to clear the J234 error but youll get a new error for airbag module missing etc. Should still let you program it.
So much for environmental EV vehicles! The engineering design is where the greatest environmental impact can be made, and no not just zero emission at the vehicle. You have highlighted the reason why EV are being written off so easily hence high insurance costs and high depreciation. Unless there is more regulatory control about repairability of EVs then are heading to be an environmental disaster (do'nt even get me started on rare metals etc and that so many good petrol cares are dumped in favour of fashionable EVs).
I think you are doing an excellent teaching job and worth it just for what you have done so far. I suspect that you will encounter more tech design hurdles if you persist.
I have done a few of these repairs and can confirm you have to replace the airbags to get it to run again it’s a pain
i'm not an ev fan but your video is about the repair not the sales, so why wouldn't you watch it.
Brave man playing with such high voltage. I agree, crap! I’d put it back through copart, but now you have it, fix it.
Dean there is a trick to stop the resistance on them believe it not, used to do this at my last job. Went from a full workshop pushing to 3 people😂
Manufacturers are bending us over backwards with these EV’s so many things that we can’t repair.
They are being forced to though..
Be very handy to have a towing bar for pushing those heaps backwards.
Your a finisher pal don’t let it beat you and your learning as you go wich is kinda priceless you already know than most about EVs just from this episode and so do I kind regards
You must continue the fix... EV's would still be the noorm, within a few years.... 🎉 This would be a training manual for many in the UK!!!!
I would like to see it repaired, that’s the best parts of the videos, when you figure things out and fix them.
So this is the future of motoring is it?? I hope not.. Great eye opening video.. Keep up the great work.. Love your videos..
I welcome the EV's to this channel, very interesting to see how you are able to fix them!
Great video Dean.
EV, just another way for manufacturers and main stealers to ensure they are doing the work on their cars and putting small businesses out of the picture. I have a '24 Rav4 Hybrid: only because the petrol engine is the main driver (yes I'm aware of my hypocrisy)- but will change it at 18 mnths. Even though I really really look after my cars, it's still got those batteries and miles of computers that in 10 years will be f****d.
I have an EV and this fascinates me. I would love to see you fix it.
I was never going to buy an EV, this has justified my decision
I'd like to see you fix it. I think you have already completed the most dangerous part and without using any protective gloves!
Not all EV's have the piro fuse within the battery, Tesla I believe is under the rear seat.
Hi, I'm a big fan of the channel. If you put resistors on the aerbec you should be able to program and drive it.
EVs seem to be gaining a foothold here Downunder so carry on Dean. Seems to be a fair bit of headroom to make a profit, depending upon the crash damage and any legal issues surrounding resale.
I guess you would normally try and cost the crash damage first anyway.
Love your work!
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Please do continue to fix it Dean, would love to see the result. It’s a worry that there’s going to be a massive void soon. Cars too complicated and expensive to repair and with appalling depreciation. So even if it can be repaired… it’s not worth anything. It can only end one way and It’s a recipe for disaster for the industry.
The sound of that diesel transporter was delightful 💪😂😊
Don't like evs but I'm more than happy watching you take the risks repairing one
😂😂 Dean, its looks as if your going to have to fix it... Different content is always the way forward m8 keeps everyone interested and wanting to view your channel... Keep up the good work 👍👍
You have got to finish it off now Dean. Great vid, definitely something different.
Eye opener that the manufacurers have effectively ruled out repairs by independent garages that dont haave access to ODIS.
So thier cars are effectively very expensive throw away items after even a monor shunt that sets off the bags. I guess until the likes of ROSS-Tech figure out how to reset these modules and re-energise the batteries even a minor shunt is going to be an uneconomical repair due to dealer parts and labour prices.
Also why couldnt VAG just enable a "workshop mode" that allows you to at least move the car around at say 5mph max once the pyro had been replaced? 😆
Just don't park it inside anywhere 🔥🔥🔥
Why's that?
@@ProdriveP1 EVs that have never been in accidents(not a lot), suddenly ignite, so one that's been involved in an accident is a risk
@@jackschnitzer6092 What are you on about? Absolutely clueless.
"Petrol or diesel cars are about 20 times more likely to catch fire than EVs, with ICE vehicles experiencing 1,530 fires per 100,000 sold compared to 25 EV fires per 100,000 sold."
@@ProdriveP1 When EV goes up in flames, it's really hard to extinguish.
@@StaticVapour590 Good job it happens 20 times less than petrol or diesel cars in that case then! 👍
It will be interesting to see what you have to do to get it working again. Will be great car once it’s fixed. 🤞
It is not illegal to do electrical diy in the uk. Part P in 2013 added some requirements for notification on major works as defined by IEEE Wiring regs. Working on high voltage without proper education is stupid and dangerous but isn’t illegal.
And they say electric cars are the future , all I see is the potential for dealers to rip the electric motorist off big style 🤔🤔
Knowing they are already gullible enough to buy one must help
@@AI-Records24and dealers have never ripped anyone off selling ICE vehicles😅
@@mikeypc3592 I think you missed the point mate haha
As there will inevitably going to be loads of EV's in need of repair after accidents, and subsequent write offs there is definitely a gap in the market for independent specialists to be able to get around the "replace everything" main dealer ethos and get them back on the road at a reasonable cost. Seems that they build these under a one use policy and if they are crashed you start again. probably helps new car sales. they look a bloody nightmare to work on though
EV depreciation has been great, really good used deals if you're in the market for one
Well you bought it I would say try to fix it,the next step you would have to on any car is get all the airbags and control modual reset by a company that does that.
Well you're a braver man than me, Dean - messing about with 400+ volts? No thank you, not a recipe for a long life! Would be good to see it back on the road, but is it worth it when the value of a second hand one is so low? And it's not like EVs keep their value over time either. You might be able to sell the battery pack for £11k though? Or convert it for home use with some solar panels?
I did the exact same thing with 23 plate id3. Purchased from Copart with 2000 miles on the clock. It had minimal damage to the bodywork but the pyro fuse had blown and some of the airbags. If this is the way we are going to save the planet the manufacturers,dealers and insurance companies need to have a rethink. We can’t just write vehicles off with such minimal damage. It was a steep learning curve getting my car running again but well worth it. My advice to you is get it repaired and run it for a while. They really aren’t as bad to run every day as you seem to think. Although I do agree that there is always a time and place where ICE vehicles will always rule.
Any tips? I purchased a Mustang Mach-E but can’t figure out where the pyro fuse is even at. I’ve done bodywork all my life and thought I could handle an EV but it’s hard finding any info lol.
Dean you might have to take one for the team. If you go through the nause of repairing this heap we can all use it as evidence as to why people shouldn't buy them..."because you have to do this, this, this and this...just to get it rolling"....imagine what evidence you would build for the prosecution if you do ever manage to get it running...
Unplug the airbags that have gone off and put 2.2ohm resistors across each of the airbag plugs to emulate a new airbag, and then reset the J234. I think VAG software should be able to do that. Curious to know if that actually works.
DONT test the resistance of a new airbag with a multimeter or you might trigger it with the voltage from the meter.
Good interesting watch Dean, to be honest I think you've done the bulk of the out of the ordinary unusual stuff - so it should be fairly straight forward for you from now ( if parts are available). It would seem to make sense for you to continue with it. Possibly a nice little earner for you, if you raffle it !!
Definitely fix it. If you work out how to and develop the skills and experience, and others remain afraid to do the same you will just keep picking up bargains! Eventually people won’t be daunted by the new tech and maybe manufacturers will make things easier to bolster their second hand values and help with new sales in the process.
Very interesting. Need to continue with the build plz 👍🏻
I drive an electric BMW ix3, so I would like to see you fixing it!
There’s lots of these starting to come up on salvage auctions.It’s very interesting how much of a problem they are to sort out.Fix It please.
not keen on EV's but watching the repair process is still interesting, so if you fix it, i'll watch 👍
come on dude lets get it done you have come so far don't give up now i believe in you and i don't even know you.....
You need to get yourself a towing bar!! Very useful for moving cars around a yard and pushing onto ramps!! 😊
Dean if it is fixable then show us how you do it so we can avoid EVs and all who drive them.
Yeah.....Fix it!
You got me interested now.
Loving the content 👍
should definitely carry on with the ev. as much as we all hate them and with everyone saying they not gonna watch it. We all know that BS and its quite interesting to know how they work underneath and how repairable or not they are. And be a good piece of educational footage about EV repairs and how this is gonna impact the car industry
Persevere and you'll get it fixed. Much simpler than a combustion engine, it's just your first one so there's a learning curve. I would definitely get yourself some high voltage protective gloves at a minimum!
I like EV`s and Im happy that you do a try it. Share it will be a part of our future.
I have all the qualifications to work on EV cars, even to repair the battery. the HV part is no joke. But if you remove the fuse between the car and the batterypack (with proper gloves etc), there is no real harm as long as you keep your hands of the batterypack.
Please continue with it, is this more Audi design than EV madness. Speaking as an EV driver. Bonus, you are not dead - yet!!
great video, bottom line these cars are not designed to be fixed ! so environmentally friendly, and yes fix it !!!
So basically it’s the same as ICE cars. Replace pyro, change airbags and clear faults from Airbag Control Unit… there are specialty companies that can reset the ACU for you. You don’t need to have airbags installed for it to actually drive, only resetting the ACU should do it according to the Audi service tool.
The reason why it doesn’t drive is for safety. You don’t want to start a lithium battery (or a fuel) fire after you had a crash
Now you understand why they write them off for such trivial damage. Keep working on this one.
Dean buy some LV electrical gloves when working around the HV parts they protect up to 1000v Boddingtons Electrical Ltd and a visor
I would like to see this fixed dean would be a good watch I think nice motor 👍🏽👍🏽
Definitely fix it. I’m an old school “why not have the V8” guy but also appreciate EVs and own one. It’s too easy to swallow the reactionary rhetoric but there are plenty of positives and the technology is coming on a pace. At £10,500 it’s cheap and should still be worth £20K plus fixed. Some of the issues may be more an Audi thing than an EV thing. I’m sure some have an easily accessible quick disconnect for a start. Interesting seeing the battery come out and the cover removed.
I would be really interested to see it through, even if EVs don't make any sense.
Did you re-plug in the disconnect?
You could use dummy airbag resistors to make sure it all works
ev's are obviously the future, so repair videos like this is super interesting
Interesting, would be good to conclude the project!
Been skipping videos because they felt "same old" but this looks fun.
You have to go for it! Look at Škoda parts they are likely to be the same but cheaper.
I love the videos I really do however me personally working on ev’s I wouldn’t like to get complacent I understand the absence of voltage through the circuit apart from the battery however it might have been good to leave out the way of shutting down the high voltage system and the importance of correct ppe such as class 0 gloves and insulated mat as bare minimum so not everyone or anyone can attempt this again love the videos
MA Brought me here, I've now found this & Im invested.
Please fix it :) - btw. the reason is that the fuse you replaced is basically also an airbag controlled by the airbag system - so you need all airbag errors fixed first.
Not my type of thing but definitely interesting to see if you can fix it 👍
Great video it shows how out of reach EVs are to fix and put back on the road . Convert it to a diesel YEAH 👍
A lot of ranting about EV's but these issues are basically crap because AUDI/VW decided to not make it possible to work on it, like you said at the end of the video, it should be possible to re-energize it without new airbags.
Like to see you work through it to the end Dean even if just so we know why EVs are not all they are cracked up to be and why never to buy 1 and why you will never do another.
I guess, once done, we all know what needs to be done. As always, follow the process.
Don’t do anything for me, but, everything has its place, they’re not going away.
I’m on my to the pub, in my S500L 5.5 😂
I'm a petrol head at heart, but it's looking like EV's are here to stay, so..... earlier this year I bought a Polestar 2 from copart and went through all this pain! No TH-cam video's out there to assist me!! You need to finish this mate. The future gen car fanatics will lap up your pain like it's holly water!!! It must be finished!
Only here to stay if people accept it, rather than everybody saying saying 'NO' to the totalitarian control freaks that have an agenda.
I’d like to see this rebuild , however the risk to reward ratio is heavily outweighed. Definitely shouldn’t be touching it if not clued up👌🏻 stick to the combustion🤞🏻
This will show people just how far we are moving from right to repair...Fix it show everyone just how much we are being taken for a ride. Good Luck
BTW it's legal to work on your home electrics you just need to get some electrician to check and approve your work however if you have never done it before I would leave it to the pros
Great episode. Very expensive :) but well shown the other side of "ecological"
this has been very interesting .definitely repair it,love the channel
I love to see you fix it!
Some roller skates for the wheels would have came in handy 😎👍
Dean speak to the salvage rebuilds UK boys. They have either people to work with on every car's or they might buy it from you. If you sell it to them could you be so kind to let them know I told you about them. Please because I might make a cuppa tea out of it whilst helping you guys out. Shaun from Dorset