Simon Jordan & Jim White CLASH as they discuss the behaviour of England fans in Qatar! 🔥😳
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- England fans have often been criticised for their behaviour whilst in foreign countries! However have they repaired this image in Qatar World Cup?
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It was a pleasure to go and watch multiple games at the world cup - everything was super smooth, and unlike going to a game in London, there was no scrum for transport, no drunk fans swearing and cursing everywhere, no gangs of lads looking to pickpocket, no touts selling tickets, and very few visible police needed.
Zero trouble. Zero aggression. Zero aggressive blokes stinking of booze on the tube.
It was brilliant and a very safe place to watch games with my young sons....
Sounds to me that you're a weak, soy-quaffing beta, Grant 🧐🤔
Way if that’s wat u after just go women’s football ,you lil snow flake
Watch it at home
@@petegonad get drunk at home u lout
Shame we can't get this kind of behaviour all the time at football games, clean the sport up.
I’m from Bury in Manchester and have lived and worked in Qatar since 2010. The amount of negative press in UK news and media in the lead up to the start of the World Cup in Qatar has been shameful. Anything and everything that can be negative was dragged up. The amount of preparation, rehearsals and trails that’s been going on for the last few months has been amazing. Whatever anyone’s views are on how the bid was won, or the countries laws or beliefs, please, it’s time now to actually look how the tournament has been organised and run and give credit where it is due. I totally agree that alcohol should not be allowed at the stadiums. It’s available at other locations if needed. The atmosphere here is amazing, like one big party where everyone gets on with everyone no matter where they are from in the world. On the evening of the opening ceremony, it was not shown live on UK TV, instead we had Gary Lineker on Match of the Day giving us a mini documentary about LGBT and migrant workers. Shameful. Lots of UK ex pats are totally utterly ashamed of all the crap that’s been in the UK media in the weeks before the tournament began.
Not sure what the agenda is supposed to achieve, ppl that have visited Qatar will happily visit it again and again. Its just like anything else in life you have to experience it for yourself to actually have an informed opinion.
I agree, we love to take the high moral ground in the West, they say Qatar shouldn't have the WC because of LGBT and migrant rights, they could easily say the US shouldn't have it in 2026 because of their illegal war in Iraq, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Not even bothered about the bid. They were all at and that was probably the only way the middle east could get a world cup. Hopefully in the future it will be fair.
News is a load of bolloxs anyway
The greatest shame I ever felt was watching the England team on their knees in front of a Senegalese team looking on bemused.
English Millionaires honouring three American women who bought themselves a mansion each from charitable donations given in memory of a career criminal.
Southgate says kneeling is what his boys stand for 🤔.
Stunning and brave.
Simon just doesn't want to admit that banning alcohol in stadiums is a good decision.
simon is right here, in the uk nobody respects the police becuase we are too protective but in the middle east in countries like qatar the crime rate is so low because people actually respect the law because they are tougher
No they are scared of the police . . . It's not respect it's fear!!
@@elliottrhodes3717 its not the police they fear, its the law. which i personally think is a good thing
Simon hit the nail on the head when he basically said the police here are too soft, we all know in a Muslim country they don't take any crap, especially from foreigners.
We’re a Muslim country aren’t we
@@markgibbins4143 😂😂😂
u know nothing they treat foreigners better than us it's own people 😂😂
Bull. They don't treat foreigners differently. They are not a holes ...so it's death penalty for murder
@@markgibbins4143 furthest thing from it lol
The Scottish fans have been really well behaved tbf. Haven't heard of any trouble.
As for the Irish
And the Welsh to be honest
The northern Irish fans have been really pleasant as well
Irish and northern Irish fans actually know how to behave, they can hold their alcohol and even drugs
Scotland didnt go to the World Cup m8
I saw a few games in Qatar, the atmosphere was brilliant. I felt very safe, it should be the standard of all WC’s
How many World Cups have you been to then? If this was your first and you haven't been to any others, then your comment means nothing to be honest.
@@FreshAlchemy I have been to three. I have not gone to Qatar because I couldn't get time off from work. But my sisters have gone and they told me that it is so safe over there, the security is great and the fans are great and that no one is fighting, in fact, she said all fans from various countries are enjoying the games together and integrating with each other very well, dancing together and learning about each others different cultures, particularly the Qatari culture and everyone is making new friends. This is something I personally haven't experienced myself ever before in person at a world cup but they have, according to what they said.
Obviously you sit in the prawn butty stand
@@headbang3r519
Someone explaining their experience of worldCup
Someone with "freespech" as username : ..........
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Jim is trying really hard to trigger Simon and he's not biting...
I swear with another person Jim can give someone a heart attack
Jim seems a very fair presenter asking questions for a talk show/ podcast.
Simon seems very difficult and obtuse, and was clearly triggered and acting up
Jim is full of the typical media hyperbole and bullshit, but make no mistake about it, Simon _is_ biting. Just look how red his face went.
come off it, Simon is extremely difficult
Actually Simon seems very triggered.
He's getting triggered massively. Completely losing his point
All it’s proving is alcohol is bad for the game
Also the society they are in you,the police there arent PC like the ones here
Little boys shouldn’t be going out if they can’t handle their booze
No it’s proving that a tournament with just the rich has no trouble
@Hayder Al-Mohammad it’s nothing to do with alcohol. It’s because only rich people can attend this world cup
@@stretfordender11 spot on mate 👏👏👏
Simon is the best part about talksports honestly.
alot of people don't like him because says it how it is.
As a South African,we never had any problem with English fans, enjoyed there company very much in 2010 tournament
Probably because we were awful in 2010 haha
Do u condemn the anti white racist eff party
Probably cuz south Africa is far away.
Turns out the troublemakers as per usual can't afford the very far travel.
@@bluesEvanskro we were awful in Euro 2016 yet our fans still left our mark on that tournament in a negative way
That's nice to hear mate, love to all you in SA. I read a lot of nice things from South African people towards the UK which makes me feel quite protective over all of you guys and girls over there.
As much hate Qatar gets no one can doubt the fact that overall match day experience has been chill…
What made u hate Qadar brother ?
@@Qaadirey he doesnt hate Qatar
Does Jim remember the state the Scotland left London during the Euro’s leading up to the England game??
Or the Rangers fans that smashed up manchester in 2008
Of course he doesn't..he's a bigot !
Scotland fans were amazing in London, from a Londoner
@@seemymobot4987
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Exactly
It's a beautiful thing to see a man back his people and refuse to allow them as a whole be tarnished by a few
What exactly did he do to support "his people" when they were rolling up the sleeves of minors over the last two years? Clue: nothing
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot I don't know what his stance is on that, I could only make a guess.
I would agree that these last two years need to be investigated and a lot of people need to go to jail, or the wall.
But that is not the topic I'm talking about here.
My point stands.
@@newadda4909 I just told you his stance. "Supporting his people" is the topic. Your point is negated.
Agreed, all of them, especially the clowns on our Screen feeding us the propaganda...
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot and if his stance was to support injecting children, or anyone, with experimental poisons then I agree with you.
But in this instance I am speaking about what he was saying here, he can be wrong one way and right another.
Yes. And the people who accepted the propoganda and followed it.
@@newadda4909 I know you were. And I gave another (important and relevant and recent) instance when he clearly didn't back his people, he actively subjugated them and read out The Script
Scottish fans are the best behaved of all World Cup Finals fans . Not one single police warning or arrest for over a quarter of a century. Well done Scottish fans 👍
hhahaaa
Apart from when they booed the English national anthem at the Euros
@@jackdelacey2505 a few did 👍
Tartan army are embarrassing 🫣🥴🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cos they're never there hhahahaha
Simon: lack of tickets
Facts: 97% of tickets are sold
97% of what though? The stadiums are nowhere near as big as those France, Russia or Brazil. All of those countries are also bigger than saudi arabia and qatar combined.
@@danielmarsh1376 Go learn some geography bro, France bigger than Saudi Arabia? Let alone Saudi Arabia and Qatar combined...
@@muminhanifa3392 bro you replied to something 5 months later and still misinterpreted my comment. The Stadia are smaller, not the physical land mass of the countries ffs. France has stadiums of up to 90,000 seats. There isn't a stadium in qatar that can hold 90,000 people. France also has better transportation and generally more footballing compliant stadiums. Qatar built stadiums purely for the world cup and nothing else. One of which was built out of containers so it could be removed after being built
The hooligans haven’t travelled in fear of getting locked up for 20 years. No fans are going at each other. I was in the middle of Mexican and Argentinian fans on the metro. It was friendly banter. That defo down to lack of alcohol. Simon just doesn’t want to admit it.
there is no lack of alcohol there plenty of places to get it its just not available in the ground unless your in VIP, The reason there is no trouble is because if you cause trouble here your delt with swiftly and severely
And they couldn’t afford to go to Qatar so they went to Tenerife instead !!
England fans watching the games in Tenerife have been having violent clashes.
lower class fans it is who can afford to go to Qatar , thats why it happened in London in euros as they haven't got to the means to pay to travel
Believe that was Welsh fans
Lmao why did they go to the wrong country for🤣
@@matj8819 it was both fighting each other I think
Had a mate that was there, filming a massive bust up with about 20 people throwing chairs. Didn't ask where the fans were from.
Breaking news: drugs and alcohol lead to anti social behaviour 🤣🤣🤣
Damn this is like watching my parents have a fight😂
Like two male voices? 😦
Bum bum
Have you got two dads 😂😂. Joke
SJ getting it spot on
Delighted with themselves because they weren't arrested. A holy show.
Such an amazing and peaceful World Cup. Never seen the English behave so well haha. Fuckin love you guys though. Let’s go England over France! England on penalties. Love from 🇹🇷
It's because there's very little / no alcohol. Lol were field mice without it.
@@SugarRayOPrey only banned in stadiums, outside the grounds I don't recall any England incidents
Please, no penalties!
anyone would behave where they cut your hands off for stealing and you go to prison for kissing your wife in public lol
@@wayne3093 let’s keep this comment stream positive mate. I think we just need to mind our business when it comes to other nations and their policies and at the same time appreciate North American/Common Wealth way of life and freedoms. Yes we got it good, but the Wealthy Middle Eastern world thinks the same.
Simon is so expressive which is why sometimes I love him, and sometimes I can't stand the sight of him... this is one of those occasions that I love him to bits. 👏👏👏😂
He’s a bit of a waffler tho most times, uses big unfounded words so the to confuse the common man,
same
@@kaypakaipa8559 wot dos big unfounded words meen
@@leoncarney2228 👆👆look at the above comment for an example of big unfounded words! Simon is a hack, he only appeals to uneducated folk, when writing an economic paper in school it highly discouraged to use “fluff” / “filler” words to try make yourself smarter. Instead you speak clear & simple vocabulary providing your
Hypothesis > Evidence > Sources > Stats
Simon rarely ever does that, and he is wrong 95% of the time he makes predictions bcoz he has no evidence or sources for his gibberish
@M.S, Simon Jordan is far more to the point than Russell Brand who will spend ten minutes waffling a bunch of paragraphs that could be said in 10 seconds.
I'm tired of this idea that it's alcohol and drugs that change somebody. A gun doesn't shoot a person, the person does - Just like alcohol doesn't make somebody violent, the brain and lack of strength and inhibition is the main factor.
Drugs and alcohol clearly change people's behaviour
You should watch some true crime mate! And you would see what stupid comment you just made
Lmao can’t tell if this is serious
@@dt9127 The only stupid person is the guy who thinks alcohol turns everybody into mindless aggressive zombies, get fcked
I mean you’re right the person does shoot the gun, but take the gun away from the person and he can’t use it, same with drugs and alcohol
A celebration of different cultures, colours. The hospitality has been on another level. The greatest world cup in history. Qatar should b proud.
Simon won't say it... I will
It's funny how when alcohol isn't involved English fans are pleasant and peaceful 🤔🤔
It isn’t that at all,it’s because the people who can afford to fly out to Qatar..aren’t the type of people who want to go and have a fight with any of the other idiots who go to these events.
Or when the countries laws are so strict no one dare do anything slightly out of order. People are still drinking in Qatar
@@markhepworth1556 The second half of your statement negates the first.
@@PO3TRYN3NTROPY No it didn’t,I didn’t call the people who want to go to a big event to fight,football fans,they are not interested in football...hence they don’t want to spend £5000 to go and watch it.
@@PO3TRYN3NTROPY oooooh negates lol Mr fancy pants, can tell by the username you are a bit of a c...
it had nothing to do with the lack of booze. fans never started trouble because they knew they would either get 10 years in jail or be dragged away and beaten to death 😂
Exactly. Because they were in a country where having an electronic tag on your ankle isn’t seen as a badge of honour. They haven’t repaired they’re image because they were in Qatar they’ll show their true colours again at the next one in USA
Jim getting pissed off finally 🤣
Am I trippin' or did Simon say Cocaine while coughing 🤷😂😂
Yes, I think he did say cocaine.
yeah jim said it before at the start too aha
Cocaine is found in every prem stadium EVERY game week
Keh-kaine, White by name ...
U never heard cocaine used on the radio? Why u shocked it’s pretty common knowledge cocaine is huge at football matches that’s why Jim brought it up before Simon coughed
It's hard to admit that alcohol is the devils juice🙄
Did he say a lack of access to cocaine so casually, after alcohol?? I would think that would be way bigger thing to mention than alcohol 😂
Jim, just because you had a problem with alcohol, other people dont, stop demonizing it
Drunk Scot
....what else is new
Alcohol is terrible tbf, nothing good comes from it
@@tq6892 thats just not true though is it..
Ban alcohol on all stadium. More family oriented without drunkies in stadiums.
Yes, islam gives the solution
Based on what Simon is saying, i would suggest drink driving should be allowed as well cuz most of the drivers can drive sensibly while drunk but only a handful drive recklessly.
This is only talked about during tournaments. What about all the away games england have been to this year? No trouble at all.
Amazing what happens when you can’t get pissed up
There's a shock, wonder what the common denominator is
English fans have not changed at all the only reason why their behaviour is better in Qatar than let's say at the Euros is because Qatar won't tolerate miss behavior and England fans know they won't get away with it in the Middle East.
They were fantastic in South Africa and Russia.
Plus no alcohol.
Love how you categorise the entire fan base like you've met every single one. Maybe too much listening to false narratives and headlines? Our fans are fantastic, we have a minority, a tiny one at that which ruin it for all of us. Theres Belgium fans that have just caused a riot in their own country.
@@tq6892 Russia falls under the same category as Qatar when it comes to punishment
@@levelupboxing6681 It's not really a minority though is it. I've been away with England many a time and its more the minority that aren't looking for trouble
"Drinking themselves to Palookaville" 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
I've been pissed at loads of games and have never once wanted to be violent or a yob . It's either in you or not .
Your never in control when your drunk, its either your lucky or not
@@TomtomjamesonIt’s not that at all. some people just naturally aren’t aggressive so won’t get involved in that type of behaviour.
You are a genius
The English fans behave simply because they understand exactly what will happen to them over in Qatar
Jim is a world class wind up merchant 😁😂👏👏👏
Narrative pusher.
wow that was one heated debate! -Id love to know what was said between them in the minutes after they went off air!
Brilliant. Mr Jordan is just great
They repaired their image only because Qatar banned alcohol
Only banned from stadiums
You don't need alcohol to behave badly
@@jamesbarker3517 sure mate! And I’m Elon Musk’s long lost brother
You forgot to add cocaine?
Where you from??
He can’t admit that it’s alcohol!
Let's be honest. The only reason there was no trouble, was because there was no alcohol. Simon having to go back to 67, lol. Jim Baxter legend. White" what the 2 that broke the crossbar" Ha ha
Simon is blunt 🔥🔥🔥
Awesome stuff and respect to the English fans 🙏🏿
Mate if any fan puts a foot wrong over there they aint coming back! Lol
I agree with Simon here…I remember only last euros Scotland fans coming to England and trashing the capital…if England did that to Scotland could you imagine the media?…England fans laughed it off and good of us
Wonder how many fights Jim instigated between his mates in school 😂
Lol
To be fair the English fans behaved in Brazil and Russia because they knew what would happen to them if they didn't..
Jimbo is looking for a pointless argument here. I'm Irish and I haven't seen or heard any trouble doing this World Cup from any fan.
LFC Spectre and Simon = Top LADS Proper Clobber
😂😂😂😂
This guy he doesn’t want to admit it
40 years of bad behavior. Last tournament which you hosted you assaulted foreign fans. But yeah a couple of weeks in the desert without assaulting anyone and that should clear it all up. Good as gold you are.
@Propagandalf What's your point? Whataboutism. Really. We're supposed to just ignore your behavior and go to your country as fans cause hey Italians.
It was the last tournament we had. A year and a half ago and you should think we should all forgive and forget everything you've ever done because. Italians?
The fact that you guys are even in consideration to host again ever is insane.
And if you don't get to host again it's the Italians fault right?
Where are you from?? Be honest now
@Propagandalf Salty Danish. Didn’t we knock them out in the Euros?
Belgium have been smashing up their own country? lets talk about that
16 dollar beers are gonna put a few people off getting drunk 😂
Four main reasons for the no-arrest statistic, are very expensive to get there, very expensive alcohol, less other snorting substances, and mainly the fear of severe punishment.
Its not a lack of alcohol its the thought of being locked up for god knows how long
The film Midnight Express we all seen it . Fcuk that
And rightly so
Simon needs to be on the show all the time he speaks facts
He is on the show all the time, he is a co host !
😂 he’s on all week 🤦♂️
He is on the show all the time which is why the show is called "White and Jordan". Have you been in a coma?
Good debate, enjoyed that
You guys were great in South Africa.
I get the impression Jim was an angry drunk from this conversation
He used to smack his husband about, apparently 🤷♂️
@@philbrainy2399 Phil Brainy = Top LAD Proper Clobber
‘sensationalistic tripe ‘ love when jim and simon beef!
Went out there and watched a few games. Free data sims on landing in qatar. Loads of people directing you to free public transport.
Met plenty of expats who were shocked at the negative press.
Media we met also enjoyed the games and alcohol available at select hotels which those who wanted to drink could access.
Once in a while they title the video correctly lol
The bank robber who sits in jail hasn't robbed a bank in the past 5 years!
I think simon is taking it a bit personally. England fans are always being shown as hooligans, so why not applaud them when the behave well.
You don’t compliment what should be standard behaviour.
Did he said alcohol and *cough* cocaine? 😂😂😂😂
The last point Simon made is the biggest, that any sort of fighting or even drunken behaviour likely leads straight to being locked up for a significant period in a country with backward human rights. No England fan that has spent the money going over there is going to put themselves in that position...whilst at the Euro Final any idiot could get coked or boozed up and cause trouble with minimal chance of even a slap on the wrist from our Police.
Why just England Jim….his memories of Scottish fans at Trafalgar Square, every time they play us is non existent….
When was the last time there was major trouble at Trafalgar Square? The eighties probably.
Still it is very difficult for some to confess that drunk fans is the major cause of problems, please be humble to admit it
It’s still ish without booze n violence
So were your Qatari ruling elite drunk on booze and hogh on coke when they drove several thousand migrant labourers to their deaths in unacceptable working conditions, Khalifa?
It's show business, and these guys are the best entertainers on talkSPORT.
It’s always the proximity
Never quite understood why Simon always tried to downplay the wembley antics by our fans last year.
I live in Wembley and it was much much worse than the media portrayed - they weren't there to even document it. For a start the Invasions by english fans also happened in the Italy semi final!
These English fans trashed up the local area, tube stations, takeaways and even shopping center (designer outlet). Loads of innocent locals were assulted. Law of the land is on its head in this country - criminals have more rights than victims.
And a minority? Probably 20,000 of say 60,000 live-football-viewing England fans isn't a small number
The only other time wembley has been anywhere near close to as trashed as that in the past 5 years was when Fury fought Whyte
they weren't necessarily English fans I think his point is , rather than a lot of rowdy people out and about cos the match was on. still no justifying it though..
Ok so that happened. Do you want to talk about it every year now until the end of time? What are you hoping to achieve with that?
He's not playing it down he is just stating that people (Namely other European countries) who have the same problem seem to try and brand it as a only English thing when it's clearly not.
@@oracle8589 plain stupid. When a crime has been committed (in this case a mass crime - the hundreds arrested should have been thousands) the next steps shouldn't be to never talk about it again. Unless you want a society where crime thrives and is encouraged (we're close to that actually - maybe guys like you want to see that).
@@Theemptythroneistaken And also when another country has the same behaviour, it never gets talked about but when our fans do it then suddenly we are the worst country in the world and are toxic media encourages it further. A few months back when England played Germany at Wembley, hundreds of German hooligans stormed a family pub with machetes and assaulted anyone in sight including children yet you didn’t hear sky or bbc mention it once. If that was England fans then Omg the whole world would be out for blood. I’m so sick of the double standards and being talked down to by our left wing media
Simon is 100% spot on…I’ve thought and mentioned this before but, Jim appears to have a lack of knowledge and of course confrontational.
He obviously has the final say but, when confronted fails… bully comes to mind 🤔
One of the WC prior to 2010 which I cant recall, didn't allow alcohol in stadiums there was not fan problems.
There's still time for them to do something interesting, have faith
I don't know how Simon puts up with him sometimes. Go Simon.
It's like comparing Apple and Oranges. They hasn't been the mass influx or English or Wales supporters in Qatar. It's only been people of a certain economic standard (the rich) who probably don't drink like their economic counterparts (the poor).
The Qatar World Cup has been a very dry affair (pun intended). It's sucked to be honest as there has been zero atmosphere outside the propaganda machine in full tilt.
Frankly, I'm looking forward to the return of the Premier League and I'm looking forward to the return of a proper World Cup when it arrives in North America in 2026.
At last,someone else pointing out the bleeding obvious 👏 Jim White is a f🤡🤡king tool 🤦♂️
Zero atmosphere, maybe in the England games, Argentine, Brazil, the African nations, Japan ,all creat
The atmosphere is fine you don't need a beer to enjoy football
😂😂 did you bring your breathalyser Jim
this is the first time we can see a world cup without alcohol, without riots and without politics, only fans watching football matches, pure sport
...without politics???? Were you watching a different WC? 🤔🤔
The best duo on Talksport bar none
They haven't got much competition have they? I can't listen anymore to talk Chelsea talk spurs who are on after them
@@paulwilliams5296 nope but you can only beat what's in front of you as they say lol
Well played simon
Cough “cocaine” - SJ
It’s great when Simon and Jim have a heated debate.
They never had the opportunity to misbehave I.e no alcohol no drugs and no fake or cheap tickets.
What about Rangers, Jim, whose fans were fighting and smashing stuff up when they went abroad?
Simon = Top Lad Proper Clobber
Simon and Mark = Top LADS Proper Clobber
@FANNY ON MY FACE It will never get boring
Sir Mark Larmz & Sir Sammy Beck = Top LADS Proper Clobbers Together 💯 Facts 💪😉👍
@FANNY ON MY FACE Shhhhhhh
@@lfcspectre4335 Sir Spectre = Top LAD Proper Clobber
Simply there is not Booze no Recreational drugs no nightclubs no pubs the beaches are segregated
Simply is not standards for our fun.
Simon keeps saying “of who” but it should be “of whom” because it is the object of the preposition “of”
Simon = top LAD proper GRAMMAR
Even tho Qatar has its flaws we have to be honest it’s been a pretty decent World Cup and unlike many other places that have been the host country Qatar has been extremely safe for the fans, no trouble or nothing
As a country we are pretty terrible at drinking. Just can't handle it.
Speak for yourself
Lightweight Pete 😂
He could get into an argument standing in a field on his own 😅
Why does Jim White rhyme with shyte
In South Africa in 2010, Russia in 2018 and Qatar this year I thought our fans were brilliant
3 places the lager louts cant afford to travel. Euro 2021 is a true reflection
@@bigowenzy3397 euro 2020 wasn't down to england fans, it was local thugs breaking into the stadium, who where getting kicked out by the proper fans
@@lennon1482 You keep telling yourself that.
@@bigowenzy3397 Get your facts right, Qatar only banned alcohol inside the stadium, outside the grounds as far as I'm aware I can't recall any England fan incidents, also in 2018 Russia allowed alcohol in stadiums after originally banning them yet our fans were fantastic
@@simonpitt8145 but in South africa, Russia and Qatar our fans were amazing and no one can say otherwise
Well said Simon 👏🏻
Why are you off tv eay0
You don't give the English alcohol anything is possible.....talking here that because there wasnt a single arrest its some sort of achievement 🙄