JORDAN vs WHITE! Simon and Jim CLASH over the behavior of 'best in the world' England fans
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- Simon and Jim CLASH over the behavior of 'best in the world' England fans
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The best fans in the world are cheering when they see a little girl cry, booing at others national anthems, abusing fans visiting their country, using lasers against the goalkeeper, storming the stadium, being violent and being racist towards own players... No wonder the rest of Europe was cheering for Italy in the final.
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Yeah , cos EVERY SINGLE England did all of that didn’t they ?? 🙄🙄 THINK FFS , context is needed , 99.9% of fans are good , the minority spoil it for everyone and then idiots like u jump on it and blame the fans as a whole when it simply isn’t 🙄 !!
@@hangoutwithdeggers Seriously? You really needed to be toxic and call someone an idiot for making a point? The point was, that english fans is not what most of Europe considers as "The best in the world". You should read the article in "The Guardian" today about that topic...
Spot on my boy !!! Underrated comment !!!!^^^^
@@hangoutwithdeggers hahahaah what’a. Weak response.. you trying to defend your fans ???? Hahaha
I saw one Italian fan getting kicked like a dog on the ground by a group of England supporters. They were waiting for the Italian supporters to come out so they could attack them. In my opinion it was always going to happen when England lost.
Italian ultras do that to all visiting fans for CL matches.... never mentioned....Ditch your agenda
@@jennyradcliffe5570 it's called an opinion not an agenda.
For sky sports admin: THIS is a a heated debate:)
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English pundits always are the first ones to criticise other nations, yet we do 2x worse but we get half the criticism
2x ?? Type up england fans attack on youtube. You be there for 2 hours.
Can you imagine if Pickford had the laser shone in his eyes, we would NEVER hear the end of it, plus the English FA and fans would be calling for BANS, ELIMINATION etc etc, it’s Different Strokes for Different Folks !!
@@michaelburnett7809 can you imagine anti England fans been as outraged when a small number of Bulgarians racially abused black England players. Or when Russian ultras hunted for England fans at Euro 2016. But I get it, a small number of idiots in England represents everyone. I would not assume all Italians, Russians are ultras or a nation of racists. But sadly the anti England narrative is driven.
@@stewkelsall4995 👏exactly
You are joking, they never stop slagging English fans off you gaslighting numptie.
Going through the comments and seeing people having a go at Simon for calling out England’s appalling behavior. Not sure what the problem is - they were violent and racist, what’s there to defend??
It starts from the Government, they conduct themselves just as appalling as the English sports fans.
@@georgejohnson4329 No excuse. It's up to us as individuals to be responsible for our own behavior and not use the apparent ineptitude of others to hide behind. There's fundamentally something very wrong in the minds of a large percentage of young males in this country. Yes, you see it in other nations as well, but it seems bred into the psyche of our nation's youth to be big headed and loud.
@@psychedelicbadger4092 Yes i totally agree but i believe it starts from the top and filters down.
@@psychedelicbadger4092 that's what happens when Jesus isn't in their lives, it's as simple as that.
Have you ever seen or heard of real Christian youths or adults behaving this way? (you need not answer that, we both know the answer)
@@garethmccartan3636 religion is the root of all evil
England fans boo and insult other national athems to a much much larger degree than anywhere I've been. Very poorly motivated. I don't agree with these here.
@@wild4fp how bout having just a bit of class? gaining an advantage by disrespecting another country's anthem before a ball is kicked.. the fact you don't see anything wrong with that says alot about you.
@@wild4fp it’s scumbaggery at its highest level is what it is!!!
There is a video on TH-cam of English fan's trying to burn the Italian flag that was on the ground. They didn't manage to set it alight so they jumped up and down on the Italian flag instead.
I’ve been on 100 finnish home and away games in my life and i’ve never even heard anyone booing oppositions national anthem, it was the first time when i watched england vs germany and i was shocked, but not suprised when it’s english people. Sad, very sad
It’s just banter m8
Correct and right mate…..watching footy a long time and this whole “everyone does it” bullshit is pathetic
They will cherry pick certain games where it happened to justify it….but on the whole it ISN’T normal for other fans and it’s just another way for England fans to be pricks
I was very disappointed to hear the Danish fans booing the Russian anthem.
Not making excuses for the English, they're deplorable.
Watch Mayweather vs Ricky Hatton, the uk commentators had to apologise for the booing of the us anthem
cos you got class
“Booing national anthems is inevitable” SJ & DM. I’ve been at over 100 Ireland internationals home & Away and never ever heard,by or against us,an Anthem been booed! Ever!!!
Exactly. Same in other places.
Exactly. It is actually rare elsewhere. Shows lack of respect and sportsmanship.
@Drom Assault I know,it was just crazy how nonchalantly Jordan & Murphy felt that was the norm,an alarming indictment of a nation.
@Drom Assault . Exactly. You nailed it.
ireland fans booed god save the queen last time england played at croke park...
I hate the argument “it’s just apart of football”!
It's less an argument and more so a statement of fact and it will continue to be this way for the foreseeable future.
Booing a national anthem is an expression of bigotry pure and simple. Racism is an expression of bigotry but only worse. The two things are definitely related. Why you'd want to boo another country's national anthem is beyond me and as we've seen with focused professional footballers it doesn't achieve anything.
Who cares it's free speech. Turn the TV off if you don't like it.
You gonna say that about the Scottish fans who boo England’s anthem? Or when they were singing “if you hate the f*cking English, clap you hands”?
@@i_know_youre_right_but yes it’s wrong and it’s low regardless of who does it..doesn’t mean we all have to race to the bottom.
@@Brentford-zk4ey racist verbal abuse is also “free speech”. It doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t stand against it
Absolutely spot on. I was thinking the same that this is where the racism will start, first it'll be booing the national anthem or booing when taking the knee which then evolves into racist chants and violence and for those saying its free speech, one should never use that excuse to justify these actions what's wrong is wrong admit it and correct it otherwise the next time they'll come after you, chant slogans against you cause violence against you and then they will hide behind the same excuses you made what will you do then?
Germany gave 7-1 to brazil in Rio. Not one Brazilian fans Booed or attacked any germans Fans. Meanwhile english fans attack everyone when they win and attack their own players when the loose.
Booing isn't illegal activity. Stop comparing it to violence.
@@Brentford-zk4ey
ITALY🇮🇹 & GERMANY🇩🇪& BRAZIL🇧🇷
ARE THE HISTORIC POWERHOUSE OF WORLD FOOTBALL ⚽️. THEIR FANS ARE ALSO THE LEAST ARROGANT.
ENGLISH FANS NEED SOME GROWING UP.
@@Brentford-zk4ey
Booing other people's national anthem is disrespectful...
@@axmedgure2933
English fans are just showing what the true essence of England is...
@@guleiro
Maybe ur right. Maybe ur wrong. I really don't know. All i can say is that it wasn't pretty to watch
he says that it's a 'tiny minority ' of fans yet we see the sort of behaviour in every city and town in the country. Nobody can say they weren't surprised by the behaviour of our fans which says a lot!
football has 5 billion fans, you'd know if all where racist
Na mate ,Englis fans are scum 80 percent
@@johntobin3673 So are you
Rou Bonati English fans are racist sorry
@@Taine0_ When you discriminate like that does it not make you kinda racist?
England fans attacked so far 22 danish fans even kids, buued under national song, used laser, 🤯 broke barrier.... and racist comments even twowords their own players🤯
Can you prove English fans were racist to English players? I doubt it.
@Doge di Amalfi one fan , you telling me Italy has no racist ultras? Even your players are fascists like Paolo Di Canio
They’re not fans...Twitter isn’t even real life ... just full of bots
@Doge di Amalfi Italy isn’t even a real country
You probably invented football but surely you haven't figured out how to play it yet. So, it's came to Rome 🇮🇹
Yeah, but you changed sides during the war. You'll never, ever be taken seriously or respected.
@@truckerfromreno u started colonizing which led to the war
@@truckerfromreno at least they didn’t start slavery
@@mishael8336 🤣🤣
@@truckerfromreno This is the point! you have not taken us seriously, you have not respected us so you have lost. However i m talking about football. Anyway if you want to talk about history i remember to you that we have three thousand years of history and civilization (yours included) so if you want to talk about history we can do it next week. We are busy to enjoy the victory now 😉
the moment england fans celebrated like they won the euros after the denmark game in london, it was obvious that failure was coming
@Darren Saxton exactly right. Winning the semi final was a massive achievement in itself.
Mate I was absolutely buzzing to see England in a final in my lifetime, Italy are a class team and there’s no shame at all to losing to them on penalties.
So true you could just tell that wax it
@Darren Saxton tbf I do agree with you m8 it was a huge occasion, but i mean it as, if i showed you a photo of london and say semi final or final? you would think its after the final
@@i_know_youre_right_but shame comes because you guys acted as if you had already won it "it's coming home"
Who remembers when Simon was calling Man Utd fans a disgrace for what happened after the super league and Jim said you can’t let the minority represent the majority and Simon said it doesn’t matter that’s the world we live in. Funny how he’s changed his tune now
Agenda my friend
Fact is England fans were a disgrace
So you agree that Utd fans are a disgrace or that England fans aren't a disgrace?
@@As-qz5lr no because throwing a tripod and storming into OT doesn’t compare to throwing someone in a river and bottling multiple stewards
@@sasmoke9695 the met confirmed the river throwing incident as unrelated to the England fans, not sure about the bottling of stewards, where was that?
Danny Murphy gets attacked one day. His reaction. “It happens”
Footballers getting racially abused, English fans beating up the Italians, English fans hurting eachother, people getting naked on the streets, the list can continue. Best fans in the world, ok 👍🏿
I agree, I’m English and I’m embarrassed
About 5 people racially abused players with monkey emojis ffs… you got any proof they was even English because one of them was clearly a Asian… getting over your self you professional victims
@@JordanBIrons your embarrassing ya muppet
@RolandDeschain god knows me nor you have that information do we…. Yeah I agree them people are embarrassing… but there not even 1% of our fans
@@jmacmcfc4662 no you really are, I feel sorry for your family and children. Thank god they lost
This is why when other fans didn't want us to win, I actually see it as justifiable. People are actually ridiculous, Property damage, England fans fighting amongst each other and targeting italian fans. Racist abuse targeted at players. Seriously our fans need to get a grip, as much as I love football, its a game. Outside of the game finishing, nothing else should be done when the final whistle is blown.
The amount of English people in Qatar jails next year.
@@Nostradanus86 Good, that will be a huge lesson in how to behave after.
@adam you say it's just a game but it's much deeper than that. Football is used as a release valve for the perceived unjust occurrences which happens in their lives. I was at the game and I was hoping for a carnival. There was a dark/edgy undertone, a bit like the theme in the latest Joker film. Social-economic disparities in society (which is accelerating) will breed more racists and violence actions.
Yes agree as an England fan disgusted the way some England fans go on.
@@Nostradanus86 what female fans wearing skirts?
Danny Murphy saying he’s proud to be English in one hand and saying if his national Anthem was been booed it wouldn’t bother him in the other!!! Laughable Hypocrite!!!
I’m not sure know what hypocrite mean buddy 😉
There’s a huge social issue with the country
Within the world friend. The world.
@@JONEZ8791 No England. Italian fans were not behaving like beasts and before you say it’s because they won, neither were Denmark’s.
Brexit and the attitude to it says everything about the UK.
@@CMJames let’s forget about the Russian, Italian ultras. Does anyone cast the view that all Russians and Italians are racists and/or hooligans? Do you share the same condemnation of the Russian fans that attacked England fans at Euro 2016? What about the section of Bulgarian fans that were racially abusing black England players that almost resulted in a walk off? Are all Italians racists because a section of ultras that throw bananas and racially abuse black players in the domestic league?
Cocaine and booze
Ive been attending the Irish national teams matches for years, (for all my sorrows). And have never seen the fans boo another countrys anthem, including England and Northern Ireland. The English have a superior complex due to a lack of interraction and education and runs throughout the society.
Danny Murphy was one of the attackers thats why he cant agree
You hear it in most places. Here in Denmark, everyones favorite little team some of our fans actually booed the Russian anthem. Happens everywhere. The violence and storming the stadium doesn't happen every where.
" The English have a superior complex due to a lack of interraction and education and runs throughout the society." What on earth does that mean?
Thats not true though is it. Theres the video of irish fans booing and whistling the england national anthem. I think its the deluded who think its only english fans do it.
th-cam.com/video/0yV0SoeEDuk/w-d-xo.html
@@tonyoliver2750 an educated mind would find it difficult to feel superior to someone else just by virtue of place of birth, and the more you interact with foreigners and immigrant communities the less likely you are to fall for the superiority complex.
Simon Jordan needs to take a look at Irish fans before he starts throwing that shite that England fans are the best in the world. Thousands wrecking Leicester Square, fights in beer gardens before the game, racist abuse, thousands breaking in to Wembley...the minority do not define the majority but theres so much at every tournament that they can rightly be considered the worst fans
No one supports Ireland so of course there's no trouble
@@Brentford-zk4ey what about the Irish, do they not support Ireland?
You wouldn't be Scottish would you?
The best butter in the world comes from Ireland
@@djw9985 and silvermints.
JIm is spot on as much as you all dont want to hear it, this is why the rest of the world wont get behind you in tournaments or take england on as a 2nd team after their own team is eliminated. Its not a minority, its at every event to some degree, glastonbury being a general exception. Never saw violence at glastonbury in 5+ years until the day england were beaten by germany there was carnage there that day. When in a crowd, england football fans revert to type. Deal with it or it will never change. But until something is done, dont ask welsh, scottish or Irish fans why we dont get behind england in major tournaments.Its not jealosy, its disdain for mob mentality.
Why would anyone get behind another country other then their own at a major football event?
If it's a purely English trait then why is the Celtic/Rangers rivalry so vicious? Why do multiple clubs across Europe have ultras and firms? It's probably just cognitive dissonance from rival fans who are bitter and attempting to justify these salty feelings to themselves.
It is jealousy. Watch how Scottish fans behaved in London recently.
@@drscranchez8721 when did i say its a purely english trait? Its a huge problem, deflection doesn't work either bro, you have to tackle it once and for all and that means good people standing up against it. If you want to do something about it and not just kick it under the rug I'm with you, as are the rest of the sporting world. Stop making excuses
@@aanallein5922 Heard it all before mate.
Everytime there's an international competition involving England, you can gurantee there's going to be trouble involving English hooligans. English fans are world renowned for causing trouble.
Absolutely correct
Oh right. Let’s forget the Italian ultras, Russians ultras etc. Forget the England players that were racially abused in Slovakia. Forget the England fans attacked at Euro 2016 by Russian ultras. There are a small number of idiots, and sadly every country has them.
@@stewkelsall4995 whataboutism
@@TheMartinTD Relevant to the argument ya snowflake x
Fantastic isn't it NO SURRENDER 💥
This idea England has the best fans is a total myth. The atmosphere was dead at Wembley. Dead. And it is at most premier league games as well.
Are you Irish or Scottish lol.
Was you at Wembley ?
Bet you don’t even go to football games
So because it’s England we can’t lay claim to that mythical title? Are the Irish or Scottish arrogant for claiming such? No, they are lauded as passionate. But England, were arrogant or deluded apparently
Thank you Jim for raising it. The fact Danny Murphy says he expects it say that we have accepted this loutish behaviour as just the English thing. It's embarrassing and shocking.
Agree with this, you don't get this sort of behaviour from Rugby or Cricket fans.
@@owenfarmer2591 yes you do, try doing a bit of research befor hand!
@@yandnat1656 no you don't why don't you do your research first
@@owenfarmer2591 nice come back, for a 10 year old. I live, sir, in a ruby town, gloucester and have been witness to the violence many a time. You on the other hand try to gaslight people to believe, violence is exclusive to football. It is not and a simple goggle search would prove it in minutes.
@@yandnat1656 I'm actually 11 not 10 thanks. I also live in a rugby town Exeter and go to sandy park on a regular occurrence. But seeing as you follow Gloucester its easy to see why you are in the mood you are.
Tell Simon to go and watch some Bundesliga. The atmospheres and effort those fans put in is unlike anything else in the world. German fans are the best hands down.
Home advantage, Sterling diving, lazers, booing anthems, fireworks and England still couldn't get the job done 🤣 more defensive than Jose Mourinho
Scottish by any chance
@@matth6349 what's wrong buddy, can you not handle truth?
Don’t worry buddy u might qualify again one day😘
Could u translate that into English for me please…
@@matth6349 England are rubbish I think he said. Trying to win a euro final with 2 attackers.
Jim Whites needle is stuck at 11:59pm on transfer deadline day so everything thereafter is manifested in that tense. If he delivered a funeral eulogy it would sound like a last minute 50 million pound transfer deal.
😂😂😂
well put
11.59PM yeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaa 🤣
Fucking hilarious
England fans constantly embarrassing themselves 🤣
The Japanese fans clean up after themselves
@@westham535 nope, because Japanese people they're respectful, civilized and a good football fans unlike those wankers for storming wembley, obnoxious, arrogant and xenophobic fans... Yep glad england lose that night (football never coming home) 55 years of hurt??? Maybe england will feel 100 years of hurt and never win from international tournament again 🙂
Japan also commit suicide at insane degrees, don't even engage in relationships and have zero immigration.
@@As-qz5lr yo WTF??? Oiiii... Mate we talk about football and fans behaviour here so dont bring suicide rate into football area, that's why england become loser...
@@mrheru8627 this is about behaviour of the English people vs others. It's sad but it is the reality.
@@westham535 what a horrible comment
I’m not sure Jim understands what majority & minority mean…
Yep a few thousands or 40 million who watched the game who where fine.
Minorities can't exist without tolerance from the majority?
Jim is a ridiculous snowflake lefty
@@JG-es5dj so do I take your stance to be a judgment without fact? Do you hold the same view towards Russia as a nation? Do you consider them all to be racist ultra hooligans after a small group attacked England fans at Euro 2016? Are all Bulgarians racists after a small number of fans and their monkey chants directed at black England players? Are all Italians racists because a few ultras racially abused black players?
@@stewkelsall4995 "yeah well what about them" isn't really an argument. Obviously the same applies to Russia, Bulgaria etc you'll find it's generally the same countries doing it and you guys are certainly right up there
"You cant single out the majority by the actions of the minority " isnt that what prejudice and racism is 🤷🏾♂️
Its all about division brother
There is no majority or minority to this matter. Each England fan should be treated as an individual, and too many individuals condone the actions of criminals. One rotten apple etc.
We are talking about group behaviour. I am sure they as individuals in normal life are decent human beings, but after a few drinks their collection actions are degusting.
@@he1ar1 agree but the way the media sell it is that anyone who supports England are all the same
@@michaeld5454 - you are.
couldn’t agree more
Booing an opponent's national anthem is as bad a sportsman behaviour as any I've seen. A national anthem playing at an Olympics podium or before a world cup final is a thing of great importance and if you can't understand that, you don't understand sport or basic manners !
Simon 'with the greatest of respect' Jordan
Therefore, with no respect whatsoever...
Utterly disgusted with the behaviour on my nation. Gone is the chance of fifa accepting any bid to host a future tournament.
So unbelievably proud of the team, disgusted by the fans.
Opposed to fifa approving bids that use slave labor? lmao relax. people will forget this happened in 3 days
Disgusted by a tiny minority of the fans.
Fifa can turn their heads at thousands of migrant workers dying while building stadiums to host their tournament but wont accept future bids due to this ... FIFA will host their tournament in the country who pays them the most money and no amount of hooliganism will change that.
Yes there will be chances of Fifa accepting bids from us, because we can afforded to host tournaments and at the end of the day that it is what it what it will come down to
“The fans”
It really says alot, when a european Community which is more divided than ever, unanimously supports the other Team…
Respectless behavior and arrogance on and off the pitch. The biggest loser of the tournament is the reputation of English sportsmanship…
Arrogance on thr pitch??
@@heroicDale certain players really are. A lot of very good guys ngl, but some players really show bad sportsmanship
Racism, laser pointing, anthem boo's and physical abuse towards Italian fans, yeah best fans in the world alright
th-cam.com/video/Awm39oDStjU/w-d-xo.html this is england fans. Justice served so far yes england don't deserve to win a trophy. Also thats karma for the denmark laser penalty.
Oh so you believe the behaviour of a few idiots is purely isolated to England? England players have been racially abused by Spanish, Italians Russians, Bulgarians etc. But I wouldn’t assume all of there fans are racist pigs. Trouble can be found in most groups of supporters, but clearly that won’t fit your purely anti English bias.
“Booing a national anthem is inevitable, it is part of football” Really ? You guys should not only eat more pasta but should take also some dignity lessons ( in case you do not know what it means - check Wikipedia !!! ) Forza Italia !!!!!!!
Italian Fascist salutes, like Di Canio and Lazio fans.
Really? When Italy has the Ultras and banana thriwing and clear racist chants and noises? Stabbing in Rome? Giving a 54yr old LFC fan permanent brain damage?
Get off the high horse. Its ridiculous. We've never had the obsession with fascism Italy has and we certainly don't have the ultras and their ilk making the very aggressive (and good) Italian polucing necessary at Italian home games🙄🤣🤣🤣
Simon Jordan is the best thing on talksport
He talks absolute muck. Turn the cameras away😂😂😂 calling england fans the best in the world hahaha. Dirty scummy rats the lot of them. All of them
Talk sport used to be great. But it's awful now. The sports bar is ok but the rest is all rubbish. Full of boring no marks talking rubbish
I miss the 2 mikes
@@jb-nx5qc the 2 mikes where legends. Its sad to see what boring rubbish talksport is now
@@krny1888 could say the same for Celtic fans
Not the best fans in the world, sorry Simon. Good/great yes, but not the best. The Japanese fans clean their own stadiums before leaving FFS. They sing, are passionate and without all the punch ups, racist vitriol or the antagonistic banter. I realise it's a minority clowning about, but England and Simon needs to own this behaviour.
I'm from Uruguay and we have our own share of football violence from a minority, but no one will ever take the attention away from how WRONG that is and try to sweep it under the rug because "99% of us are so good". This guy Simon may love his counrty and feel deeply ashamed of what the minority of fans did but you can't conceal the violence. I've seen other fans in Europe such as Russians being violent but there's no denying England has an issue there that's bigger than most other countries including European counterparts so they'd better focus on fixing that. If anywhere else a mob had tried to storm a major cup final without tickets and succeed at it - these same journalists would probably dismiss that as "3rd world" problems. You need to do better.
Danny Murphy? What crap! It's inevitable it's normal. The question is WHY is it just accepted?
Jordan loves a bit of context:)
Theres a shocker Simon trying to condone English fans 🙄
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They will never learn ! Even the pundits tried to find excuses the despicable behaviors of these "fans".
I mean how do u explain to your kids that these guys are right to boo anthems, spit on others fans, enter a stadium without ticket, laser the opposition gk, racially abuse your own players, spit on others fans... ?? It's not even a minority, it's now a majority of english fans who have become stupid looters.
What a lazy narrative. So does this mean the small number Bulgarian fans that racially abused black England players means they’re a racist country? Are all Russians ultras hooligans after they attacked England fans at Euro 2016? Are all Italians racists after the monkey chants directed at black players in serie A?
@@stewkelsall4995 everything is a narrative... , never a self reflection.
@@rhinestonecowboy8185 whilst England isn’t perfect. I would say self reflection is a strong point. We have a very diverse group of supporters and we all share a passion for the England team to succeed. England is held to a different standard it seems.
Jim is delusional, never agreed with Simon as much as I have done recently
He’s just woke asf.
I enjoyed Danny's take as well. Surely he is more aware of the atmosphere of a football game than Jim, and he must have heard his fair share of insults as well. Well done for saying things as they are.
@@sucklambschop3124 couldn’t agree more, having Jim and Simon be polar opposites works well and a balanced Danny who welcomes both perspectives in the middle but sometimes Jim is just too much
I’ve usually got a lot of time for SJ but he’s talking dogshit!
I’m an England fan,have been for years and We’re not the best fans in the world!
True. Not the worst either
Simon explain to me the guys that were literally taking cocaine in front of thousands and getting away with it is that ok ?
There is the problem right there Mr Jordan.
We've never been United.
That's why the problem will always occur
I wanted to cheer for England, but I just couldn‘t do it🙁🇩🇪
It's mutual.
This is ridiculous now. Someone tell me how anything Jim White says or does that helps with these topics in any way? His ignorance dilutes the education that is being presented by civilised views from the likes of Simon Jordan and Danny Murphy. Let the qualified people open viewers minds Jim and be quiet or ask something that sparks some enlightenment.
Gives out about England "contributes nothing" keep attacking your black players, amazing country
@@dswifty10 ??
In regards to the booing of the national anthems I think danny was right, asking England fans to be show a bit of class and be respectful the same as just about every other country in the world is probably asking too much
Other teams anthems were booed during non England games during the euros.
@@Brentford-zk4ey How many other fans booed every single counties anthem they played against
Danny Murphy suggests that if stuff happens then shrug it just happens and always happens
The same as Simon Jordan. Just sweep it under the carpet, turn the cameras away etc
I usually agree with Simon but I can't with this one. We certainly do not have the best fans in the world. But it's endemic of a cultural problem rather than a "British football fan" problem. We have a class divide and we have a drinking culture and those two ingredients make for a pretty rotten cocktail.
Agreed. I used to be an atheist but getting rid off the church as part of the culture is probably one of the most dangerous things to happen to the country. People don't engage positively in their communities and don't have good role models. All they live for is booze and watching football at the pub.
Why aren’t these pundits on holiday-? we need a break from the BS
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15th February 1995 lansdowne road Dublin, jack Charlton was absolutely disgusted with the English fans
Not as disgusted as English fans were with Jack Charlton. #NOSURRENDER
Shut up ye divvy
White is right. Absolutely spot on. Only reason why everyone is agreeing with Simon is because it's convenient. Much respect to White for calling a spade a spade. Pictures speak louder than words. Need an unbiased frame of mind to see through Simon Jordan's bs.
I’ve been to 9 football tournaments and there wasn’t a time when there hasn’t been incidents with England football fans. I’ve been attacked, abused, booed, spat at, had stuff thrown at me. I’ve seen fans piss in the street and fight amongst them selves. All England fans. And I hear the same that it’s a minority. It’s a pretty big minority in my experiences.
The sad things is that there are thousands of decent England fans but the problem doesn’t come from a few hundred.
This talk of the ‘best fans in the world’ is invalid, even though its the minority it still shows up the majority with the racism, booing of national anthems and fan behaviour.
Jim White jumping to defense of sky when Jordan rightly pointed out they had cameras set up to bottom feed the possibility of united fans charge old trafford,naturally been a bottom feeder himself he would of course!!!
It's going to get to the point where England games are played in empty stadiums unless there's a big change
There is something a bit off in the English psyche, hence why it happens. We are talking about the same country who booed off a batsman who had just been knocked out by a cricket ball just because his team mates used sandpaper 18 months back.
The Brits have to stop labeling themselves as the best fans, that's how you'll find your balance and rid of the few bad ones.
Stop saying “brits” as if this had anything to do with the Welsh or Scottish.
I strongly suggest that you get your facts right Yank. Nothing at all to do with the Scots, Welsh or Irish... For your Brits I once again strongly suggest you you use the correct term English
"it's part of football to boo a national anthem so lets accept it", what??? no other host country did this, showing respect for other nations for 2 minutes before the game starts is obviously too much to ask of England fans
Have they met the tartan army? Pissed on buckfast, self policed amusing, and too drunk for interviews. Perfect fans ( whilst with country)
Listen, I am Welsh and since I support the Swans (awaits the sheepshagging jokes) I've travelled around England to watch them. I have had some amazing times with rival fans, have been welcomed into pubs full of rival fans, have spoken to fans as young as three years old to a 98 year old gentleman in Hull who was so proud to tell me he'd seen John Charles play and showed me nothing but respect. Only time I ever got mixed up in trouble was at Leeds when some guy spat on me as we were walking back to the car.
I can safely say I have never felt threatened or intimidated in a football match, sadly I HAVE heard racial abuse but it's a very small minority of people I've heard it from and they've always been shouted down, beaten up or kicked out in all honesty. The majority of fans, whether you are English, Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish are decent people. As we've done before, the decent majority of us just have to make sure that these idiots get named, shamed and their behaviour not tolerated.
Jordan speaking absolute sense once again. Media types absolutely love stirring the pot. Stop giving a tiny minority the oxygen of notoriety they crave, stop banging on about a handful of racist idiots amongst, literally millions, of football fans who cause no issues whatsoever and simply love their football.
He's talking absolute muck. Trying to cover up the absolute typical scumminess england fans do every single time.
I'm sorry but the minute you start doing what Murphy and Jordan do then you're asking for trouble as it becomes normalised,which it seems to be for the English. I get there'll always be a few dickheads who want a ruck but with England we're never talking a few are we and it's every single tournament,home and away!
Actually upsetting watching the scenes that unfolded after the game.
These lager louts who only go to watch football because it saves a day of domestic abuse committed against their wives/gfs tar the rest of the English people who know how to act in a civilised society with the same brush.
Makes me sad to be an English man. This is why we don’t deserve nice things.
All the England squad did the whole country proud. Love you all ❤️ especially the young lads who missed the penalties.
If only you ever left your mums spare bedroom...youd realise that there are numerous countries throughout the world who behave FAR FAR worse than England fans.
Noone died did they?
Get a bit of perspective 😴
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Said the kid sat in his mums basement 😂
do you feel better now? What a silly sausage you are!
We’re talking about the England fans specifically fella, take your “whataboutism” elsewhere you bottom feeder 😂
@@GingahBish23 Im not sad to be English because 1% of the football fans got too drunk 😂
Thats what i would call being a silly sausage ...
In Turkey/Italy/Russia the fans actually murder each other fairly regularly you little snowflake
Very weird describing those English fans like that.
Don’t know what the domestic abuse comments are about, but there are a set of fans that make us all look bad for sure.
Simon's position on this is comical. He's either delusional or being disingenuous
These people need to be marginalised? Really? That's exactly why there is this problem. These people are already marginalised and they are sick of it. Not wanting to understand the behaviour and keep pushing them away doesn't get anywhere near the root of the problem.
Jordan is right there's an aspect of responsible rather than sensationalist journalism. And the truth is they'd rather make a buck.
True, I understand that.
Should they not boo when the game is on either? It's called gamesmanship. Jim White ironically got annoyed at the suggestion that the media wants a blow up for a story and then he's blowing things out of proportion for a story himself.
Not once did i hear the Russians booing another teams national anthem during the world cup
I think it is strange to classify booing anthems as „normal football amtosphere“ just because it is normal in England. There are a lot of places in europe where this doesn‘t occeur. Don‘t normalize it, because it is just not that normal…
Exactly. Simon Jordan talks an absolute load of muck. Very rarely do fans of any other nation boo an anthem. Sure the Irish even sang along to the french anthem when they play
Simon 'we have to get context' Jordan speaking mind yet again.
Simon is correct and Jim is delusional!
Absolutely beggars belief how educated men like Simon Jordan and well Danny Murphy so nonchalantly believe the booing of National Anthems is nothing more then the norm and an expectation is a horrible condemnation of nation!!!
this is an incredible piece of content all 3 individuals spoke very well and you could understand each other points
Someone needs to show simon the videos circulating of these “amazing fans” if he honestly believes its only a small majority he is deluded.
those videos show the minority of fans if the majority did that it would be alot more mess and you really would know about it. you and jim need to lay of the booze.
btw not condoning what they did either every person doing those things are prats and should be banned from football games but there still a not the majority
@Johnny Kerr it literally was a minority tho. you cant fight the facts. there's always rubbish and mess left behind in these games and fixtures when scotland came down they left just as much of rubbish behind some off them were kind enough to help clean it. in all these situations its always the minority's that make the loudest noise and cause the most trouble and unfortunately ruin it for everyone else. which then in turn helps people who just don't like england or football jump on the band wagon its all of them. which is exactly what you did and probably enjoy doing.
@@thewengerinn5555 it was a football final italians also had kids there with there parents you fool. if your gonna try make a point make a good one you div
@Johnny Kerr look at you calling black and asian people scum...how woke
I know I'm late but let's appreciate the winners viva Italia
the wet scottish guy preaching about English fans acting loutish is just incredible.
Big difference between loutish behaviour and causing riots
England football fans so disrespectful to every other countries national anthem and to their fans, just because the hooligans are still behaving like hooligans doesn't make it right, so stop justifying their disgusting behaviour 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Before you lecture England, perhaps it’s wise to focus on sorting the issues out in Italy. We have a minority of idiots, and so do Italy.
Surprised simon is taking this stance
The reason i feel Jim has a point is, as football fans, each is supposed to be another's keeper. If you watch a bunch of lunatics misbehaving and you condone it, you inevitably are complicit
The best fans that only support black players when they win but crucified them when they lose. These are the same fans attacking black and brown people in the streets I must be confused
They are not fans. They are superior scumbags
I was disgusted at the racist behaviour of some England fans at the boys who missed the penalties. I was as disappointed as anyone but the only option for me was to remain dignified and gracious in defeat. Well done to Italy.
England fans are not the best fans in the world pmsl 😂😂😂😂😂
they are
Jim White, you can't boo national anthem! Every time England play in Scotland, the Scottish always boo God save the Queen lol. Every country will say their fans are the best in the world and there will be a minority of racist and aggressive fans in every country...
But England fans do this everytime regardless who they're playing. Pathetic
@@Rhodi88 What do they do everytime?
@@jackstanley8220 Boo the oppositions national anthem
Scotland boos the British anthem definitely true. But would the Scottish fans boo the Italian anthem?
@@Rhodi88 I don't know tbh maybe they do, if that's the case I don't think it's that disrespectful, they are going to war and just trying to unsettle the opposition team. But would be nice to see all anthems respected yes.
I'm Canadian and LOVE English football but Danny Mills & Simon seeing no issue with boo'ing the national anthem is a problem in itself and enables these issues to continue.
They both make valid points. Agree with Simon not wanting paint all England fans under the same brush but also see where Jim’s coming from
That’s shocking from Jordan and Danny, most other fans don’t boo national anthems
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That's not true.
I am Scottish and we boo at minute silences and anthems depending on who the team is
I get that part of Jim Whites job is to play devil's advocate, but sometimes it's not appropriate. In situations like this he should shut his mouth and leave SJ to it
It was way more than 100, just look at what happened in Leicester Square which was followed up by a surge of thousands of non-ticket holders invading the stadium. I haven't witnessed other nations football fans behave in this manner at a major tournament, particularly a final, it was out of control.
Respect for national anthems is just not going to happen??? I live in Canada and I don't think I've ever seen Canadians boo any national anthem in any sport. What do you get out of booing a national anthem anyway?
Jim wants his sky sports news job again..
The trouble with the world today everything is the best in the world ,
Any clown who thinks the English fans are the best in the world is delusional ..
No not as bad as south American or Italian fascists but not anywhere near as good as swedish , icelandic , Irish , ect ECT ECT ECT
@@imedi 100%
@@imedi or Scottish
@@Hibernianfc-cm4uu scotish fans are the worst youre all too jealous of england, you support the team england play more than your own country hahahah
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With regards to the people bunking into the ground, completley uefas fault this was the biggest game in our history and uefa charges thousands and let Tom cruise in.
Wasn't the 66 final the biggest game in your history?
@@taseenalrashid4168 one of the biggest sorry
I was one of the fans that turned up without a ticket to try and buy some on the day. When I got there I saw a load of fans singing, letting of smoke bombs, dancing, throwing inflatable balls etc. This is stuff that I dont have a problem with at all. Then there were some ppl throwing beer cans and bottles (saw 2 people bleeding and being helped by paramedics), abusing Italy fans etc. We seem to think its ok because it game day. Same as this saying that I've heard 'its just banter'. We are a great nation lets act like it
Simon is right about the media attention. The worst trouble I’ve ever seen in a stadium was at the Canarian Derby in Gran Canaria about 15 years ago, when the Las Palmas fans spent the whole second half raining bottles down on the Tenerife fans. The next day, the Spanish press said not one word about it. Had the same thing happened in any stadium in England, it would have been back page headline news, to then be picked up on by the world’s media. We don’t help ourselves of course, but the football trouble makers exist in every country, they just get ignored in most and publicised in England
That was 1 isolated incident, where ever the English fans travel, they cause disruption, mayhem & trouble, nothing but uneducated louts.
It's a shame their employers cant be told about this after the police catch up with them.