"DISRESPECTFUL!" 😠 Simon Jordan & Danny Murphy CLASH Over Scotland Fans Booing The National Anthem 🔥
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- Simon Jordan & Danny Murphy clash over Scotland fans booing the English national anthem.
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This is so hypocritical. We literally boo EVERYONE else's national anthem and have done for years and years, but they choose to ignore that. Fair play to Danny here
Yeah but it’s disrespectful isn’t it.
Who is we? Do you mean yourself? Or the regulars who go watch England all over the world? You have no right to judge 60 million people.
@@JRDN1 you complain he speaks for everyone by speaking fir everyone? Are you dense?
Danny is spot on.
Maybe because he argued it as "we" like all English people 😂@@lox7923
Didn’t have Simon Jordan down as a snowflake, Danny Murphy is right here, it’s rivalry, is what it is
If you are thick maybe
Both sets of fans booing the same anthem, their own anthem, adds to the rivalry?
@@timcomley5948 okay *poes*
It's not a rivalry it's hatred using rivalry as an excuse to breed their hatred.
@@charlesstilesmysterydinersfn *yes.*
Simon, for a fella that says he’s not offended you spend a lot of time moaning and crying
While accusing others of being sensitive
He's not crying though is he he's answering a question. Bit if jealousy here lads? 😢😅
Wheres he moaning and crying?
@@thefivepoints did you forget to press play on the video?
He’s a sell out, he can be hard nosed and clever on some subjects that I agree with him on but he does get exposed as a hypocrite on some issues.
I’m English (British really), and for an England fan to even dare to whinge about our national anthem being booed is massively hypocritical!
Fair play ✌️
What do you mean British really?
@@aadamkhan5217is it not clear?
@@headred76 No
@@aadamkhan5217He's british really... what part don't you get?
Agree with Danny on this. There’s a huge history between the two countries. Outside of football everyone gets along but sport brings out so much passion that we miss in everyday life. No problem with it. Amplifies the battle.
Totally agree. Booing Craig Brown tribute was pretty fucked up thouugh tbh
@@Tearsofaclown01 agreed.
If someone ripped up a seat and smashed it over someone's head, you'd probably call that passion I suppose? Where do you draw the line? I don't think booing a country's national anthem is something passionate. That's just brainless. That's more hatred than passion.
@@alanduncan1980 Totally agree, like Jim said its just ignorance and football is full of ignorant people.
Well English smashing bars abroad and people abroad is acceptable but booing isn't lol
i’d be disappointed if the scots didn’t boo.
Hating your anthem doesn't even mean we hate you..
it's like 2023 wtf does England still have a King like war is still being fought with swords?
@@TheIainswanScotland have the flower of Scotland as their anthem and we sing it proudly
@@TheIainswan that’s pretty rich coming from a country that doesn’t even run itself
@@TheIainswan you carry on pal. bored
Sanctimonious Simon. Loved Danny telling him "you'd be in a box." 😆
Done him
Then had to remind Danny he was new money 😂
He has to be respected for building himself up to what he is now on his own merit
Took me a second to realise he wasn't threatening his life 😅
Who wouldn't want to be in a VIP box? Otherwise stand with the masses who cough, splutter and smell, and that's just Mancs.
I can't believe Danny Murphy is the voice of reason, what's the world come to 😂😂
Danny is more football. I love this spurs boy.
Didn't know Simon was a Liberal Snowflake!!! Danny actually PLAYED the game...
Jim is totally devoid of reality. He moves in closeted circles
I'm a Scot and I agree with Danny 100%. It is what it is. Funny how Jim and Simon don't comment on the English fans who didn't show any respect to Craig Brown when they had a minute's silence for him??!!!
Why would they when Scottish fans repeatedly sing Lizzie’s in a box?
@@chrisguise6428 showing disrespect to someone who has passed is a totally different thing.
@@henrywong3177 Yeah but why can't people behave with this passion during a Wimbledon match boo when the oppoisiton
What about when England booed the scottish anthem at Wembley? Ally mccoist is a boot licking soup taker.
Danny absolutely schooled both of them
England played seven teams (including Scotland) at Euro 2020 and how many anthems got drowned out with boos? Seven. The hypocrisy is unreal.
and it was sthe flower of scotland that was booed...i heard it as did the whole of the uk who watched it.
The italian anthem was boo'ed by about 5% of the crowd in Euro 2020, you can barely hear the whistles after the first few notes. In this game it was over half the scottish fans who totally drowned the anthem out.
I wouldn't say 'drowned out'. I don't mind the booing anyway, but it was definitely louder from the Scotland fans. But then it would be, wouldn't it? They are a nationalist supporting nation who resent the English.
@@gingerindian1141 Flower of Scotland was booed by the English bit the Scots fans belted out as loud as they could to drown it out.
They were both booed but England were in Scotland playing, so got outsung.
@@kevinb9830 The God save the King songs original version has a verse in about "Rebellious Scots to Crush"
It was removed in the 1750's decades after the Union of GB was signed by the 2 parliaments.
Why would the Scots be happy with a war sing which is about killing Scots?
Fair play Danny for calling out Jim for only reading out the one sided texts from all his rangers supporting friends lol. Jim can’t mask his upbringing, we all know.
Jim seems to push narratives. Maybe it's his job.
@@dr9465 Jim is a Rangers fan and even though he's Scottish he loves the ENGLISH national anthem, it's that simple..
@@rosshaugh7937 Danny is from Liverpool from Irish lineage. Of course he hates the national anthem.
@@itellyouwhy6957I’m from neither and I think Danny’s spot on - makes a better atmosphere for someone who goes to games - it’s boos not slurs if you cant deal with that maybe go watch tennis
@@yourdasellsavon9928 You're just a Celtic fan from Glasgow...
England fans did it against Italy and Germany so why can’t other people do it to there own national anthem
God Save the King is a UK anthem, not an English Anthem. Scotland has Flower of Scotland, but it is not a National Anthem. The Scottish supporters were booing their own anthem. Totally ridiculous when the Royal Family is very proud of its Balmoral home and those from that part of Scotland both respect and accept their neighbours.
@@andrewmallard2301still even if what Scotland fans did was wrong I believe 2 wrongs don’t make a right but if England fans boo everyone’s national anthem all the time why there surprised when people do it to them of course fans will do it back
@@andrewmallard2301exactly this, there is no such thing as english national anthem
@BayernMunichFan2 dude you just contradicted yourself by saying two wrongs don't make a right. And then say its okay for others to do it back 🤦🏻
@@TheEnglishItalian257thats like peopel in Bavaria booing the German national anthem
I agree with Murphy. You can't nullify every little thing in the game, through fear of "offending" some gentle soul. Otherwise, you will kill all of the atmosphere in the game. Allow the passion of a few cheers and boos.
As a Welshman when the British national anthem is played it means nothing to me. I view it as the English national anthem only. The Welsh national anthem resonates with me far deeper!
And I view it the exact same the flower of Scotland is the only anthem that I care for and I don't like that rubbish they try and play
Danny is 100% right when he talks about the atmosphere and passion. Is it right to boo national anthems? Personally I don't like it but I recognise that everybody is different and have their own views and values, and it can add spice to a game. As an Englishman I think everybody's national anthem should be respected, including our own, BUT let's not pretend we don't boo other nation's anthems, because we do!
Well considering the anthem for Scotland is flower of Scotland I think booing the English anthem is in fact perfectly okay
It was played as the English national anthem .Jim yer nothing but a British nationalist
Cant remember England fans booing anthems, enlighten me please? English fans didn't boo against Scotland at Euro 2020.
@DEVRIMCI2007 We must have been watching two different tournaments then, because we definitely did. No biggie. Like I said, it adds to the rivalry, but we can't act all shocked and indignant if other national teams decide to boo our anthem.
@@DEVRIMCI2007England fans booed the Italian anthem
Absolutely spot on, Danny. 🤝🏻 Not everybody is the same. It’s football.
I like Danny Murphy more and more. He seems like an honest people man. Doesnt take sides. Very understanding and fair. Very rational.
Ye I agree I always like listening to Danny over most the rest , Simon will always be number 1 tho , he was wrong on this one mind
All spurs boys are wise and smart.
Of course, Danny actually PLAYED the game!!
Danny spot on for this. Besides, English fans boo all other anthems anyway.
And get slated unanimously. But when little old Scotland do it, it’s okay…figures eh.
Personally I think everyone needs to respect other athems, it's pretty low class.
Not in rugby. Because it's a respect thing.
@darrenporter1850 Football is a pretty low class game, go to a polo match if you want class
@@Ajs_1988 I might go watch Harry
Spot on Danny. Nothing wrong with booing other teams anthems. It’s an away game and meant to be unsettling/intimidating. What, are we going to sterilise every aspect of football and suck all the life out of it? Crying about criticism of players, crying about criticism of refs...it’s ridiculous.
They are part of the UK Charles is their King as well
I don't think you should boo an anthem. Boo the team if you want. When you boo an anthem you're disrespecting an entire country and it's people.
It's their anthem aswell. Or did you think it was that 1970s ditty 'flower of scotland'?
Simon Jordans USP is disrespecting other people - the IRONY 😂😂😂😂
Danny nailing it as usual.
Simon on his high horse again, what he neglected to say is that English fans would have booed the Scotish anthem if the game was played at Wembley, also English fans are known for booing every national anthem of every opposition team they play.
@@user-mq4hr1ly4b When did I say it was ok to boo anybody's national anthem?. I firmly believe you should respect everybody's anthem, Simon was playing the victim card here plain and simple English fans have previous for doing it so when another set of fans do the same to you during your anthem you really can't object to it can you.
Scotland isn't actually a country though they just think they are
Not my King .
@@user-mq4hr1ly4b I think we were watching a different debate fella I truly do. Like you I really have no objection to it however it would be nice if EVERYONE respected the anthems of the opposition. Simon was the one that was crying about it and the ironic thing is the English are the main perpetrators of booing other people's anthems he simply choose to ignore the fact to try and justify his opinion on the matter. The fact that the Scots did it to England has no bearing on it being wright or wrong or being remotely acceptable, the way I see it is if you cannot respect the other nations anthem you can't cry about it when the other supporters disrespect yours. It's that simple isn't it.
And rightfully if they fancy doing it. They paid their money, they can let off some steam if they want no?
Danny is 100% right. Jim is doing a massive amont of virtue signalling. THAT is what is sad and 'sickening.'
Had me even questioning Jim's nationality for a minute!
@@NelsonMusicCOUKlook at who he supports and his views on independence I think that tells you enough about where he wishes he was from
😂😂😂 Simon trying to sound like he wasn't raised privileged😂😂😂😂🤡
Define "raised privileged".
Danny Murphy is spot on. White needs to stop clutching his pearls and put them away and Jordan has more faces than a clock shop and changes his opinion every 60 seconds.
Brilliant !
White's only raging because he supports sevco
People forget what the anthem represents. It represents the monarchy, an obviously controversial topic for obvious reasons. Many English fans have done the same to other anthems
In what way is it evidence free
This is what you just wrote “Read what he wrote if your English comprehension up to it”, please refrain from embarrassing yourself in future. It’s not a good luck for you.
@@KeithBrighouse-zg2qv Don't you mean "Read what I wrote" ?
Probably don't try to correct someone else's reading comprehension when your writing skills are below that of a 5 year old.
Many Liverpool fans boo the English anthem lol
@@gary83uk I'm one of them.
England boo lot's of anthems from a load of different countries, Scotland only boo the England anthem for reasons outside of football big difference I think.
no such thing as english national anthem.....thats also the national anthem for scots as long as they have a british passport
Its the UK national anthem...
@@KeithBrighouse-zg2qv they booed Italy and German's national anthems during the euros
It’s an English anthem about a bloody English monarch. Nothing to do with Scotland .
@@janice506Northern Ireland use it for their anthem
Danny schooled them both there but theu cant admit they are wrong and dig in even deeper
Because where there is an offended person, there is probably a story to waffle about
Scottish anthem was boo’d at Wembley not long ago, you can watch it easily on here 🤷♂️😂
Simon the royal loving tory Jordan getting offended over freedom of speech
You cannot expect a passionate Scot with a few pints of beer already in him to respect an anthem about the British Monarchy... the Flower of Scotland is about beating back King Edward... and by the same token England fans always boo the Flower of Scotland, especially the parts about pushing back King Edward's army. I'm with Murphy. It is what it is. As long as the bitterness doesn't get to violence, it's a non-story.
The average Scot with or without beer is going to boo because their knowledge of history is Braveheart and knowledge of culture is Trainspotting.
Yeah but King Edward Longshanks had Mel Gibson hung drawn and quartered and disembowlelled cos he was a dirty heathen scumbag. Its true i watched the movie and everything.
@@charlesstilesmysterydinersfnno it’s a simple fact that we are Scottish we have our own anthem and we’re not a United Kingdom it’s not rocket science
@@charlesstilesmysterydinersfn are they a different ethnicity or not? If yes then that makes them a nation. A nation without a state, but still a nation.
Most of those fans booing will have died of a drug over dose today lol😊
I'm 💯 with Danny on this one.
Danny seems to be one of the only pundits able to give it back to Simon and Jim, top guy
Simon needs to grow up.
Hang on I'm a england fan but England fans booed the minute silence so before we have a go at Scotland fans our fans were just as embarrassing
Danny is bang on!! Tribalism is in our blood! They are trying to turn us into robots. Passion.. fight.. and heart is what makes the game.
I’m English and I love the Scots booing our anthem, it adds to the hostile atmosphere. Danny is spot on here
I am a Liverpudlian of Scots and Norwegian heritage, I got completely ignored because of my accent and my clothing style in Scotland, until they heard my name (a local clan, and local name).
Danny Murphy dropping THE MINERALS!! 🔥
Scotland’s anthem is literally about an English king and what he did to Scotland. Of course they’ll boo the English anthem “god save the king”.
Nothing says relevant like a conflict from nearly 800 years ago.
Danny Murphy again the one speaking the truth
Tory jordan is fuming haha. English fans are literally known for booing anthemsb
I remember being at Lansdowne Road for an Ireland vs England "friendly" in 1995 when the England fans decided to do a bit of Feng Shui to the place, ripping out the terrace seats & throw them on Ireland supporters below them. Would have been happy if it was just a booing incident tbh.
Agree with Danny, the rivalries have always been there, its nothing to do with social media. If anything its calmed down to just booing, if thats as far as it goes its perfectly acceptable all things considered.
Yes English Combat 18 Nazis where behind the trouble. They started once ireland scored.
@@talkandplayCombat 18 is a German organisation, that has links in the Chelsea fanbase.
You lot boo every fucking anthem, you lot can dish it oot but canna take it back
Who are 'you lot'? Are you referring to the sweaty on the panel who's the most offended?
@@CCCoNeTiMeHe's talking about the Nigel Morris Dancers that do it at Wembley. Snowflake behavior on both sides, who cares.
@@Smokey2McUnlucky the other night mate, better luck next time! 😉🤣
@@naf2038 I could not give a monkeys about Scotland 😂
@@Smokey2Mc ok pal!
I agree with Danny on this one. As England fans we boo other anthems how can we say anything when fans do it to us
The full song literally contains the words "rebellious Scots to crush"...ofcourse we are going to boo it 😂😂😂
England fans have booed every anthem on the face of the earth. They are the kings of anthem booing.
@@TopRED884
You’re Irish, not scouse. Im scouse, we are proud English brits
the scots just proved they are the best booers, incredible noise.
@@TopRED884Honestly this is such a daft outlook. We are English. The true English. London isn't English. True England is the North.
Jim White not bringing up the England fans booing the Craig Brown tribute in a big way (was only touched on) was disappointing, without wanting to bring up a whataboutery point.
Jim will have known Craig I'm sure.
How can the Scottish fans not boo? The lyrics of the National Anthem sing about smashing the Scottish. Sing the whole song and find out.
Simon says unfortunately we live in a disrespectful and devicive society. Ohh the irony
Danny is by a distance the most intelligent ex pro pundit and had Simon on toast in this debate
Not the most intelligent at all, but he doesn’t take any bullshit. He has my respect for that.
Who cares, what was really disgraceful was when the England fans were booing during the one minute silence for Craig Brown. But then again, what else would you expect from them?! A masterclass in indignity…as usual.
Aye that got glazed right over. Which was really the worst part for me. Also no mention of England fans booing over teams anthems. Which I don’t have a problem with.
My opinion is the fans are making a hostile environment for the players, this isn’t rugby, this is football, the reason football is bigger than rugby is represented in that emotion, football means more, for good and for worse.
The naivety of Jim and Simon shows they never fucking sit with the fans, fans will abuse the other side for anything the can get there hands on.
@@robot4795well said
Disrespect breeds disrespect after having the national anthem drowned out with boos and being shown no respect you then expect the England fans to show respect?? So how does that work?
It goes both ways. The Scottish are no better.
@@jaspalmer8555 I get what you’re saying, but drowning out a National Anthem is a bit different from drowning out a one minute silence in memory of someone who has passed on. Shame for Craig Browns family really, as it could have been quite a touching moment for them to have him remembered respectfully at the 150th anniversary match. However to have it ruined by England fans taking it too far by booing is quite sad. Then again, why should we expect anything different as taking things too far is historically what England fans do best.
Simon check TH-cam for videos of England fans booing flower of Scotland.Theres loads of them.The minutes silence for craig brown and earthquake victims was stopped early because England fans disrupted it.
It's too much for poor Jim to take, especially as a Rangers fan. He used to standing and belting it out with his hand on his chest..
Good on the Scotland fans from a Liverpool fan..SCOUSE NOT ENGLISH 🚩🏴
Well done Danny.
Funny how the "scottish" pundits on Talksport have been more outraged than the english pundits today... also funny that they have Rangers leanings. A team whos entire existence is to be subservient to ths English
wrong in every word you wrote, and probably too septic to care.
@@gingerindian1141 whats wrong? english pundits have been sticking up for us. The culprits are rangers leaning pundits and Rangers as a club literally want to be loved and will do anything to be loved by england.. a country which holds as much disdain for them as everyone else.... so explain whats wrong about it? and absolutely no septic leanings at all here
No surprise the huns got outraged hearing the king get booed
And Celtic are subservient to ireland
Booed the Italian anthem and worse in the euro final...its what they deserve and can't get hurt by it!
Grow up Jimbo acting woke here. It's a rivalry between two nations, what did you expect.
I'm English. I'm a small m monarchist. I don't care if the Scots boo the anthem. I encourage them to do so. Simon is being a bit thick. I don't want England fans booing other national anthems but that's just me. The Craig Brown tribute booing was appalling.
Danny's reaction to Simon swearing had me in stitches🤣🤣🤣he's the only one who can get the better of Simon.
The English anthem makes reference to "crushing Scots". The Scots have every right to boo that song. It means something very different to countries other than England.
Please do elaborate…
@@amancalledjim5382 Historic Jacobite and anti-Jacobite alternative verses
Rebellious Scots to crush! God save the King! The 1836 article and other sources make it clear that this verse was quickly abandoned after 1745, and it was certainly not used when the song became accepted as the British national anthem in the 1780s and 1790s
@@Davybhoy25 you’re National anthem about what then?
Thing is us English don’t go about our everyday lives obsessing over Scotland. You lot are like a jealous ex girlfriend.
The Scottish anthem is about a scottish victory over the English a battle in which scots killed english soldiers... Lets not forget that Scotland tried to invade England too.
@@commando4481 but Scottish people aren't complaining about English fans booing their anthem, don't forget that
The origins of that anthem are VERY anti Scottish
Talking about others being respectful while running your mouth so the censorship goes off, classic Jordan 🙂
It’s a song about a god that most of us don’t believe in. Saving a monarch that most of us don’t want. The song should be universally boo’d by opposition and England fans imo
Plus on top of that it's technically the national anthem of Scotland. Are we not allowed to boo our own anthem?
Danny has to handle these lot regularly and does so every time. Class act!
Oh cmon Im English and I expect the Scots to boo..good on them. Seriously its such a non issue until the media turn it into one. I love my Scottish mates, and would never get upset by such a trivial issue. Anyway well played both teams.
Can't believe im actually typing these words out its something I thought I would never in my life say so here goes (deep breathe)....... i agree with danny Murphy 😅
Danny is spot on.
100% agree with him.
Personally, I was delighted when I heard the booing.
My thoughts were "no worries if Gareth hasn`t got our team fired up enough for this, the Scottish fans have got his back".
I`d like everyone we play to do the same please, and thank you for your unintended support Scotland!
Does Simon not remember England fans tearing up lansdowne Road in Dublin in 96 no?
Big W for Danny
Scousers spirit with Scotland. The establishment tried to destroy Liverpool just like they did Scotland but here we are so we boo.
Don't forget Irish
Danny is ON POINT
Simon is waffling
They’re both wrong, it’s nothing to do with atmosphere or the SNP (a ridiculous point as the SNP are very unpopular with football fans up here)
We boo it for two reasons:
1. The anthem is anti-scottish
2. The royal family are deeply unpopular in Scotland, particularly among the working class
Jim White is 100% aware of the motivation of the Scotland fans booing the anthem, and is making a big story out of nothing for clicks and views, the two English people in the room with him aren’t even that bothered by it, they’re just incorrect in their assumptions.
Well said Danny, you put Simon back in his corporate box lol
Danny is spot on. We have moved passed rampant hooliganism to fans booing an anthem being such an atrocity is progress. Also remember why The celtic nations do this, because hundreds of years ago England decided they would have no regard for our culture and decided to conquer us.
yeah lets live in the distant past shall we??
You sound like u need to let it go yourself.
Well played Scotland
Why?
Well played? Yeah really helped the team didn't it
Sunday morning pub team with bagpipes.
Jim is such a pearl clutcher
The monarchy are the problem , the song sings about Rebellious Scots we crush. It's amazing to Jim and Simon many people hate the royal family
Simon says Sturgeon fueled the boos but he's too inherently biased to realise it's Boris and Cameron fueled those boos. Someone once said something like Oh what a gift to give us to see ourselves as others see us.
I'm Scottish and I'm no fan of sturgeon but to say that she caused it when the same behaviour from us has happened since before she was born is just ridiculous
The hypocrisy here is shocking. England fans boo’d Robert oppositions anthem at the World Cup 😅
They're by no way a disgrace. That English garbage will always be booed by Scotland....and rightly so. Bravo boys. Bravo.
I like Danny, and agree that this has happened for many years, but I don't think he understood Simon's point that we've become a far more disrespectful, angry and intolerant society as a whole, and the fact Simon expects this behaviour is an indictment on our society. Back then people might have booed, and I know it sounds contradictory, but they still had better manners, empathy, less selfishness and generally a bit more happier... What would happen if alcohol was allowed in matches, and not have the threat of being prosecuted/banned because of the infinitely better security we have today, wasn't around. I think we would be in a much worse state than ever before... all we have done is put a bandage on a problem
agree
Danny’s been out speaking these two a lot recently
In the early 1200s, Jim’s ancestors were hiding in the woods, Simon’s were safe behind castle walls because they were “cut from better stock”, and Danny’s were off Fighting Someone, Somewhere. 😄
“He’s a blind gentleman” 😂😂 such a weird way to word it lol
Thanks, Danny. The rivalry and intensity is indeed a vital part of football. We need it.
Spot on Danny Murphy 👏🏻
100% with Danny here. To be honest I would probably say that 50% of England fans would boo our national anthem too. Our national anthem should be "Land of Hope and Glory" by Edward Elgar. Most people couldn't care less about God saving Epstein's mate's older brother.
You can’t pick your family.
Oooh edgy lefty
Agree, we have a terrible national anthem which isn't about the people, singing your heart out for one privileged family says a lot about how entrenched class is in this country, people have been conditioned to be a nation of serfs.
France's anthem has lyrics about watering their fields with the blood of the enemy. Mexico's anthem tells the people to make the earth shake with cannon fire. Italy's anthem calls for the people to unite under one flag.
Ours is about a mythical sky fairy preserving the life of a weird old man who once cut a Mercedes brake line. We can do better.
@@jazzoj5perhaps you are just another foreigner and not British
England fans literally boo every anthem we play against. Poor Jim someone do a welfare check, grow up.
The end of the video is hilarious Danny calling out Jim for only reading one side and he starts nodding his head 😂
Simon, Jim and Danny have not understood this is cultural and political. We were not booing the England team, or the anthem. We were booing centuries of English repression over Scotland. Completely acceptable. As if Ukraine fans won't boo the Russian anthem when they next play one day.
Not tis generation get over it are you still being oppressed ? We showed you who are the guv,nors so big mistake we are just as proud us normal working English people .
@@fredtraylen4311The British people are being oppressed ffs.
@@teethonthecurb161 so you insult working salt of earth English not the way to get us on your agenda
@@fredtraylen4311 What exactly is it that you or the "earth English" you speak for are insulted by?
@@jonathan-livingstone-acousticyou tube warriors like you i have never oppressed your country your country has as much freedom as ours it happened long before you were born
Isn't it interesting how talkSPORT are willing to spend 12 minutes debating whether Scottish fans booing the "English" National Anthem is disrespectful, and only make a passing reference to English fans disrupting a minute's silence for someone who'd died and the victims of a disaster in another country? One is clearly more disrespectful than the other, but guess which one they choose to focus on? Jim ends by saying "why can't you just stand in silence?" when the English fans couldn't do exactly that when the clue is literally in the announcement "minute's silence". As others have said, English fans routinely boo other National anthems (not to mention booing their own players for - checks notes - openly opposing racism), and Scottish fans boo other National anthems, but I don't remember Israel getting their knickers in a twist about it. Typical tinpot Little England mentality, holding other countries to standards they can't keep to themselves. But by all means, let's have a 3-man panel discuss the subject of how Scottish fans should behave without any Scottish representation present (I know I know; "Jim White is Scottish"... but given his track record of opining on Scottish football, counting him as Scottish makes about as much sense as counting your dog's lungworm as one of the family pets. Danny Murphy, who isn't Scottish, spoke a lot more sense here).
Would I have booed the "English" National Anthem? No; that's not a thing I do, nor do I support or encourage it. But I find it hard to condemn my compatriots who saw fit to do so given they're booing a song that literally used to have a line about crushing the people of the very country they've turned up to the stadium to support. Compare that to the Scottish anthem which has always had the lines "those days are past now, and in the past they must remain". Even so, I wouldn't bat an eyelid at English fans booing that. My Mother in Law (who is now in her seventies) has refused to sing the UK National Anthem since her school days because the idea that any human being can be born ruler of any other human(s) is not compatible with her ethical values.
And trust Simon Jordan to slip his own politics into it. You could probably fit his entire understanding of Scottish politics onto the back of a fag packet, which is why he blames Alex Salmond (who hasn't been relevant for almost a decade) and Nicola Sturgeon (who is no longer First Minister) for being "divisive". They've been divisive in the same way a surgeon removing a tumour is being divisive: It's arguably correct but casts a misleading inference on their motivations. As if the reasons for the Scottish perception of England is generated solely in Scotland. English people will look everywhere for reasons nobody likes them except the flipping mirror. Then when England are playing anyone else, they'll have the audacity to ask why Scots are invariably mostly on the other side.
Hatred? It was a crowd booing. As for the anthem... the words say crushing the Scots. Then we get it rammed down our throats as the British anthem. Shame on those who picked this song as the British national anthem.
Whenever it comes to British nationalism Simon becomes ultra-defensive, it's a blatant intellectual blind spot he has
Most poms have this blindspot, you all still think it's the 1800s
@@nichobeeI agree fella, it does my head in how bias they are, i'm English but only because that's where my mum gave birth to me!
For me, Simon is an English Nationalist.
Well said Danny - this faux outrage is absolutely hilarious.
Danny Murphy is spot on for a change. Jim and Simon are clearly compeltely pro-royalty and can't see that anyone may have rightful views which are against the notion of royalty, add into this the history between Scotland and England and the role royalty have played in this it is 100% understandable people in Scotland would want to protest against them and agaisnt the England nation anthem which glorifies them to the nth degree. It's also hilarious Simon seems to have amnseia about the countless times English fans have booed other countries national anthems.
Danny is bang on. It created such an amazing atmosphere. That wasn’t hatred. England fans do boo the Scottish anthem. The Welsh also boo that ‘uk anthem’, why is it always Scotland that gets picked out for this? 😂 Most folk from England don’t consider that anthem their’s, anyway, I think they consider their anthem to be Jerusalem (if I’m not mistaken).
Also, Simon, Scotland sit top of a group that includes a very good Norway team and Spain. “Not a very good team”…
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Danny Murphy is spot on
Are they not discussing the England fans booing the minutes silence to Craig Brown?