Who should be England's next manager? 🤔 Simon Jordan, Dean Ashton and Jim White debate!
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- Should Gareth Southgate still be England's manager for the Euros? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Dean Ashton discuss!
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For gods sake GO. I'm in my seventies, I can't afford another Southgate tournament. 😂
God I feel your pain
Roy, if you were 21. You'd still not see an England trophy
Roy, you could afford 3 Sven tournaments though...with the "golden" generation.
Credit to you for knowing how to use technology
You mean tournaments in which your team advances farther than they have in the past 50 years? Under a manager who has many knockouts wins as all of the other managers in the 50 previous years before him combined?
A nice man, with a defensive attitude, who deals with the press well. No trophys though
Most international managers don't have trophies, you only get a shot once every two years
It looks like he is a friend to the players, is that what manager/boss, should be? I’m sure he is a good person and does what the FA wants, but you need a more ruthless man at the helm, in my opinion.
@@freddieqmercury5961 I think international management is an underrated skill which doesn't cross over to club management. I completely accept criticism of Southgate's reluctance to make in game changes but I also think he is extremely close to being the ideal international manager. I really hope if we change manager it brings the trophy we all want, but I think it's more likely we'll be out in the group stages and looking for another new manager in two years
England were (and still are?) leading the tournament in goals scored. The “defensive” narrative is so overblown
@@isaacisaac9658 yeah but Simon says it, so it's true
Gareth should be Spurs next manager. Its suited perfectly for him
Are you joking, he's not good enough to manage a premier league team.
@@ianbetts4266 he’s good enough to take spurs to the lower leagues
Get Dean Ashton on every week instead of Trevor Sinclair!! Been very good on commentary through the WC & kept calm when Simon Jordan’s got on one 👍🏼
Completely agree Dean Aston does come up with great point's and has great knowledge of the game hope to see more of him on talksport. Main guy i can't stand is Danny Mill's he's awful.
Thought Sinclair had been sacked.
Sinclair won't be coming back. Imagine people phoning in when he's on the panel. He will get heckled every day and rightly so. Ashton is a good foil for Simon and better then Southgates bestie:- soy boy Mills.
"I belive its not the fear of loosing thats make you a winner, its the desire to win "..." that unstoppable greed to do everything possible"
Jurgen Klopp
Nice one.... Where do you go from there?
Who has that mentality who can take over from GS?
Thomas Tuchel knockout specialist: 2 UCL finals in a row, 5 finals in 1.5 years at Chelsea. We will be hard to beat with his tactics and he’s done well in England with flexible in game management, his teams always press well etc and done all that with Werner Mount Lukaku etc up top. BRING IN TUCHEL
Agreed. He turned that Chelsea team around in his first half season in the prem and won them a champions league. That proves he can quickly instil his ideas.
A lot of people calling for an English manager that “understands the culture”. I’m not sure that argument holds weight when our top club teams are multi-national squads managed by foreigners.
I’d happily see Potter or Howe manage England one day but for now they need to develop their skills at their respective clubs.
Are you by any chance a chelsea fan
Shut up tuchel pathetic
@@truecockney438 I’m a United fan and I’d have him.
Tuchel is an amazing tactician, born winner at all costs! Upsets a few people as a result, but that'll be forgotten in the future.
England's last three tournaments, played four decent teams, Belgium (twice), Croatia, Italy, and France.
Lost all of them, only scored 3 goals in those matches, and one was a penalty.
and also saying England were close as they missed that penalty.. well that penalty wasn't won by England it was a sheer moment of madness by a French defender.. they were given the penalty
@@leonhughes9014 And the pen would've made us level anyway, not like it would've won us the game. I wouldn't have put it past the french to get another goal through us after
After I watched the Croatia semi final in Russia 2018, I said then 'under Southgate we will never win anything because he's happier trying to not lose a big game rather than take it by the throat and win it. 'I would have loved to have been wrong. Sadly, I was right.
Under any manager you won't win anything 😂
he changed tact this time. kane missing his penalty is why we are out
@@FurioussBear Wrong! A positive and courageous manager ready to take risks with the depth of talent we have will win. Definitely imo. I've seen no squad in this tournament that can either match or better the group of young players England have. It's criminal that they have not progressed under Southgate. Tactically he's so lacking - wrong substitutions, timings and personel. He tries to not lose. He's shown the same pattern every time at the major tournaments. WIth this group a manager that went out being confident from the first whistle will win a big one. It's pretty obvious to me anyway
@GS PianoGuitar bruh. Spain Brazil and Portugal all had a better squad. Calm down
@@tsampson6660 Where did he change? The first half we had Henderson playing as a 3rd centre back 'controlling' the tempo -in his own half! playing sideways passes never going forwards with the ball. France scored and we had to get forward but they sat back and waited. In the 2nd half finally we went for it started getting forward. Saka our best player - gets subbed off! Grealish Rashford Madison stay on the bench. He brings on Mount. They score again He still leaves Grealish (our most inventive player) ON the bench. We did not dominate anything. We did NOT create chance after chance.We created two penalties. France picked us off ...like a good side would do. If he were positive and went for it from the start and kept it up we may well have won. Definitely the case against Italy last summer and Croatia in 2018. I'll say it again - we are winning nothing under Southgate
If you've just hit your opponent with a left hook and he's staggering all over the place, you follow up with a flurry! You go for him! You don't just dance around the ring and give him a chance to recover. That's the problem with Southgate - he hasn't got the killer attitude.
or maybe France was just better than England...mmmmm
Let's face it, when you're in that position and looking for the killer blow, who really thinks _"Time to throw on Mounty!"?_
@@2011hwalker England played better than France and Lloris had a lot more work to do than Pickford. The reality of the game is that the better team does not always win.
@@Andre_Heyyaaaaa The reality of the game is France won the game. Another reality is history doesn't remember losers.
If England had made subs and lost, everyone would be saying why did he make subs when we were on top?
Excellent from Dean. He should be on more, for sure. Very measured
Southgate is some players best friend who are guaranteed to be selected and play. That’s why England will NEVER win trophies with Southgate as coach. It was the same with Ole at man United
England haven't won anything since 66 so we're all the other English managers pally with the players maybe they are just not good enough.
This is nothing like Olly 🙄
Simon “ no nonsense “ Jordan telling it how it is once again !!
Courage of your convictions
jordan has no experience from beeing a manager
@@michaelwallden7261 neither do you or anyone else that comments on TH-cam but your still entitled to an opinion or make an observation as long as you have valid points to back up what your saying
Also has bags of experience in owning a football club which employs the manager 😂😂😂😂
@@kingdunn703 backing up..dont U understand what i am saying....country is not the criteria the model and quality is do U understand
Simon or Sean Dyche should be England manager
Simon, Sean and Spectre = Top LADS Proper Clobber
I honestly think had England put Rashford on at around 60-odd minutes then they would have won the game. Most of England's wide players like the ball to feet. Rashford does too even though he struggles at times but by far his best attribute is running in behind and he's better at it than anyone else in the England squad.
Why is that important? Because France's defenders were beginning to push up. There was some space opening up. Meanwhile, Harry Kane was doing what he likes to do, coming deep to be a playmaker but to be effective at that he needs runners. He has Son at Spurs and for England he has Rashford whose confidence was high and he was bang in form.
Furthermore, all the talk in France was that Rashford was England's biggest threat. There's a reason PSG want to sign him. The French rate him more than his own international manager does. The way the game was shaping up, bringing Rashford on at around 60 minutes for Henderson and moving Foden into the 10 was the way to go. France were there for the taking. But by the time Rashford did come on, it was the 85th minute, France already had their lead goal and didn't need to push high anymore, thus negating the effect that Rashford could have had if Southgate wasn't such a coward.
I'm not even English and Southgate frustrates the hell out of me.
Awesome analysis
You never know for sure but that sounds pretty sensible to me.
The most disappointing thing is that he hasn't learned that lesson from the Euros final
great point, never considered the PSG link it says a lot about where England are compared to France
Totally..when the game was level and england was in ascendancy, a killer manger would have made that change...he might have also got on sterling for kane last 10 mins, moving Rashfor centrally...
Had he still.lost post these proactive changes , then he deserved a pass and would have given his all....but I think he was playing for penalties as soon as England equalized
The main problem is that Southgate has not been a proper manager and has not played many games as one..he does not know when the team is in ascendency and when they need to be pragmatic- he was brought in to get England competing in tournaments and not losing to the likes of iceland , repair the image of the team. When he took over in 2016 , the players were average..now these players are top but he still manages the same way and that's the gap..the players have evolved but he has not...
England are going backwards under Southgate. They have been demoted to league B in the nations league and hammered at home 0-4 by Hungary. They are not going to win any competition anytime soon but the manager is not helping get the best out of quite ordinary players.
they're not though are they
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Does anybody really care about the Nations League?
It counts towards international rankings now I believe, low ranking harder draws in competitions
@@thetwitterlectual9528England did when they got to the last 4 !
And it’s about rankings
Southgate is a genius with media & PR. He takes time off from the spotlights & he knows his journalists friends will do all the PR to keep him on the job, while he stays invisible. He stays invisible until fans get heated about CL, EPL & club football... they will no longer care or get heated after a while.
This man knows how to avoid trouble or to push trouble away, he doesn't have to face interviews answering questions or facing the issues fans have with him. Pure genius, if only he was as good tactician.
Great point
Glen Hoddle once gave the media a false line0-up in order to decieve the opposition. They never forgave him. The Daily Mirror's Harry Harrison brazenly admitted they were all just waiting for him to slip up after that so they could stick the knife in - and they did.
So you're spot on when you point out that Gareth has understood that next to actually winning something, having good relations with the media is the best protection and England manager can have. Solskjaer was a friend to players and reached finals and semi-finals, the narrative was a loser who was a bit of a soft touch, but these same traits are an asset for Southgate? Does not compute. Yes I know club and international football have their differences, it is of no matter.
That danny mills line 🤣🤣🤣
Great hearing Dean Ashton on the show today. He talks a lot of sense & gives a good opinion from the player's side. Talksport need to sub Gabby for Dean
Stop making sense. Gabby is black, they can't replace him with Ashton
They've got a quota to fill, competence doesn't come into it
@@shanginadildo haha I'm so naive.....Gabby needs to become a "Gabby" then if he's to keep his seat at TS
The issue is that due to the increase in international games played it has inflated many coaches and teams records,
It is purely down to tournament results and performances against top teams,
England have ultimately failed at the important stages so there needs to be a change which can only be the manager as the talent pool is fixed
England have been on the cusp of winning since 1966 . Every tournament since then they always had relatively easy first round draws and then when the big games come around they bottle it. Croatia have a population of 3.7million and look at their performances over the years .
Croatia got wiped in the semi final though, their golden generation has gone home without trophies....
China have 1.3 billion? What’s you point ?
Wenger for a 2yr contract till the end of the Euros, then maybe Eddie Howe will be available to take the reigns.
Great shout.
Wenger….no way
I’ve said this for ages 👍
He's finished
Eddie will do a Fergie at Newcastle
I agree with Simon about experience of ‘winning’ but I fear that it’s not Southgate, it’s us as a whole country when it comes to football. It’s no coincidence that the same handful of teams continue to win the big tournaments. It can’t just be down to the group of players because England arguably have one of the best groups of players to choose a team from. I can see Germany, Italy or Portugal winning a WC or Euros before we do because they know how to do it.
Spot on, look at all the comments and coverage from us lot, it's us as a Country. We voted in Boris ffs, says it all
I disagree I think there are plenty of winners this country has seen football player wise at one point the champions league semi finals was just English teams. The issue has always been poor management, Southgate went from getting boro regulated after 2 seasons to the England job. Imagine if we actually gave the job to someone who has actually done something in football at the top level
It's not us as a country, it's the FA, they're pulling in a different direction to grass roots supporters and players. As a former sporting competitor, I'd say there are more important things than winning. Crucially, never giving up - which is, if anything, conducive to winning.
Top priority for the FA is wearing a blazer and tie with distinction. Southgate is their dry dream in that respect but it doesn't affect our chances of winning anything. In fact it does - negatively: if they're frigid and uptight about candidates who have a bit of colour to their character.
Admittedly, they had their fingers burned with Big Sam - but that situation needn't have been terminal, it was clearly a journalist sting. Ditto with Venables and Hoddle - two English managers who made progress with the national team and ultimately got no back-up from the FA when they made front page news. Yet every milquetoast appointment is furnished with a new contract before their progress is tested in tournament. It wouldn't be unreasonable to leave the contract offer until after the tournament as an incentive for the tournament. Indeed, that would be normal.
I don't want oafs or drunks representing my country but that doesn't make this lot steely-eyed Spartan warriors. They're all about portraying themselves as prim and proper girl guides but they're not averse to a bit of cheating. They should forget about their showbiz profiles and just let their feet do the talking.
How about Arsene Wenger? Gets the job done when he has the players to do so, very attacking minded, knows the PL and players like the back of his hand, and players love him. I think he'd get the best out of our players.
Great shout and at least the football would be good to watch
I'd like to point out that Simon Jordan, and others, said only last week something along the lines of "If we do lose to the French, so long as we don't get pumped 5 or 6 nil and we play our game, then there's no shame in going out to the champions". Well that's exactly what happened and now we're saying we should sack him, am I missing something...?
Think it’s probably based on the fact that we had france on the ropes and still lost
Back then that was expected though, no one thought we would play like that against France. Another opportunity wasted just like the Italy final because Southgate is a reactive manager and has no grit about him.
He's just a windbag, pure emotion coming from him all the time and no sense. I'm gutted we went out too but no amount of scapegoating or "demanding" victory will make it happen, the universe just doesn't work like that. All that happens is we get the pressure cooker environment which creates the heavy england shirt and makes us worse. I thought we'd learnt that lesson. Clearly Jordan hasn't.
Simon Jordan changes his opinions with the wind. He just says what he thinks most of his listeners will agree with.
He has to go! His in game management hasn’t improved one bit. He hasn’t learnt from his mistakes sadly. The reality is that he does alright because the squad is exceptional, but we’ve fallen at the last hurdle due to his inability to use the squad properly and because he’s a scared reactive manager. bottle job.
A lack of good players might explain it. I mean, Henderson, Shaw, McGuire. Don't get me started on Sterling. It's time to go Gareth.
It wasn't the penalty kick that let us down, it was not scoring from open play.
It was both.....
England's problem is the media. You over do it and it gets into the players heads
Talking absolute shite mate. If that was the case, they wouldn’t have put in such a good second half performance. This most recent failure was yet again tactical flaws.
@@amxdai4568 ,played well, performed well, almost won but nothing to show tournament after tournament. What trophy did England win for all their good performance?
@@gumzbenjamin85 I’m not sure whether you were trying to but you’ve literally just proven my point?
@@steorswe I thought that too. But I think they have blown up Bellingham way too much. He's a fantastic young player but his positional sense needs alot of work
This is a cliched response
What qualifications did Gareth Southgate have to get get this job?
Can I have ago?
relegated with middlesbrough, English, looks smart-ish, thats about it
It's pretty simple really,the team as a whole is overhyped. More realistic expectations based on ability is the only logical take on this. Expectation and reality are two different things.
Simon speaks like a true fan that knows and understands ball
If a top Manager had been in charge of the English team they would have won the euros and possibly even one of the world cups.
Your not wrong but it didnt need to be a top manager just somebody who knew what he was doing and picked a team to win playing the type of football which allows them to express themselves southgate has had two tornaments now with arguably some of the best players in the world and hes done nothing he should of gone 2 years ago when he lost us that competition
They would not
@@hudson7354 the manager would have won euro 2020 vs a disorganized italy side
Simon is on point like always
Armchair pundits point of view. You cant miss penalties and beat the world champions. England did perfectly well against a *better* side. France are better currently, end of story.
If (big if) Tuchel is genuinely interested I'd consider him. He's the only non-English option which is being bandied around which I'd welcome. I think Southgate will stay until Euro 2024 anyway, by which point Tuchel will be employed elsewhere.
People okay with Tuchel like he plays free flowing ultra attack football
He is also a negative coach and him being foreign will make things worse
I was going to say the same thing. But no need to now 😁. Tuchel is the only manager I would want in charge of England. Southgate has taken us as far, as his ability as a manager, as he can go. The man deserves respect for what he has done for England since our infamous exit to Iceland. But he lacks tactical awareness and the guts to make changes. In game management is poor.
No we stick with a English manager
@@kieran7849 worked out so well. Hasn’t been a world class English manager in an generation. An English manager has never won the premier league
The same way fabio's name was.
A football game lasts 90mins but blokes talk about it
24 hours a day every day. I'd be lost without endless debate about managers, formations, building for the future, and post match analysis from excellent pundits like Simon Jim and Danny.
Tuchel or Mourinho over Southgate any day of the week, Southgate Haa done a decent solid job but to progress and get the best out of this squad of talented players in the next few tournaments we need to change and get an elite level coach in.
yeah Mourinho is known for his attacking football....
@@2011hwalker He's known for winning trophies.
Anyone but Southgate
The observation that “England were one penalty kick away” is laughable to say the least.
... and lazy
Fact that French team would've found way to win they're just too lethal
@@josesesade5732 Exactly. There’s a barrier no matter how talented England teams are. They need to find out what it is, but first they need to drop the “it’s coming home nonsense.” The Premier League makes them delusional.
Southgate must go now
Ultimately, the players have to want it for the shirt and country in those pressure moments, and elevate themselves to another level. Example, Hal Robson Kanu (vs Belgium 2016 Euros) produced a moment that every Wales fan will remember forever, which was way beyond his perceived ability. This mentality supersedes any "coaching". Dean mentions Morocco and Croatia, those achievements are down to belief, not nit-picking about substitutions. Croatia and Morocco have no squad, they rely on their best players to perform and drive others on. Brazil had an amazing squad, but believed they'd turn up and just win. Gone! Southgate gave them everything to deliver, changed his style, and Kane fluffed his lines the pressure was at it's highest...
Who
@@jb894 Point proven...🫵
@@rhythmicdisciple7045 who
Mike Bassett. 44 f!£@ing 2😂
The Lionesses sacked Phil Neville, hired a Dutch woman and won the Euros! The best manager you can get, are the one you should go for..
Yet Argentina won the world cup with a manager I've never heard off 👍
A lot of countries would have sacked their manager after losing 4-1 to Hungary, so Southgate should consider how lucky he was. England were a joke in the Nations League...
With 18 months to go before Euros plus a contract extension. Madness was giving a manager an extension before a WC. He's not going anywhere.
England needs a coach with a killer instinct... that's been missing for years despite all the talented generations of players. What is GS known for? Compare that to Didier Deschamps as a player and coach
Deschamps has some of the best players on the planet the last 5 years.
Imagine you have the best lineup and then you play with five defenders
If Tuchel’s available and wants the job, it’s a no brainer. A champions league winner vs Southgate who’s won nowt. I don’t care if he’s from Germany, Fiji or Jupiter, if he can get this team to finally win a major tournament which I think he definitely could, then it’s cheers Southgate thanks for your services. Tuchel’s a winner. We’d be mad not to
We have a German royal family why not have German football coach
Shout out fiji
I am glad Simon has a voice. The best on talksport. Safegate out
ANYONE EXCEPT MR DULL- SOUTHGATE!!!!
Fed up of hearing all the ex player/pundits- Who have we beaten worth anything??? NOBODY!!!!!
They will probably give it to Lampard or Lineker
🤣🤣
Lol
Give bielsa the job..
Everyone will look forward to watching england..
Best man for the job imo.
Unironically, a great shout 👏
My only major criticism of Southgate is him not throwing on Rashford at 65min Vs French. That would have given the French more to think about..
Agree along with Wilson both would of unsettled the back four with the pace of them
Let’s face it the expectations of the country media etc are huge! Countries like dean mentioned don’t have that pressure. We must find a way to handle the pressure better. A new coach is a must for me. Nothing against Southgate but we need a serial winner ie a nasty so and so👍🏻
I wouldn't be surprised if Gareth Southgate gets a knighthood in the New Year
Simon talks a lot of sense
Not to nitpick, but as manager at Middlesbrough he won the 2003/04 league cup. Not a massive success I grant you, but for Middlesbrough that's still a reasonable achievement.
Whether it’s and Englishman or not is irrelevant, I believe it’s gotta be someone who has had success as a coach in the premier league, someone who has experience with English players
The truth is there are no top managers around who are english hence why an english manager has never won a premier league. We need to be looking elsewhere if we want to achieve tournament success. Tuchel would be the ideal option as his knocout tournament record is outstanding
Eddie Howe
Howe, Dyche, Potter. I've been crying out for Howe for the Job since he was at Bournemouth, and now his stock is too high and it's too late
@@DruMMaSt3R666 Dyche needs a chance
Southgate was given the England job because no one else wanted it as its a poison chalice. Be interesting to see how'd want it out of the list of names that keep popping up.
Let Jordan decide who the next England manager or if he should be sacked. He’s such a fountain of knowledge and always right🙈
It ain’t racist to want a English man to be in charge of the England football team
Southgate coaches not to lose in big games, instead of coaching to win by being aggressive. He is reactive in his adjustments instead of being proactive and staying one step ahead of the opposition. England has improved under him (which shows how bad things were when he took over), but it doesn't seem like he has the chops to take the next step.
Who has?
@@ASBsweetbetter to fail trying to make an improvement, than settle for stagnation.
@@liamwright2510 yes but who would come in?
I think it should be an English manager but if it has to be a foreign coach then it should be someone who has really imbedded themselves in the English game. Tuchel isn't the man, maybe Pochettino, but Mourinho is the one who sticks out for me. Managed three English clubs, his family home was (and maybe still is) in London, and he knows the media inside out.
The FA wouldn’t get Tuchel because they hire yes men.
@@tedjovel1876 what exactly are the men in question saying yes too? Are you suggesting Gareth Southgate's selection and tactics were dictated by the FA? (Presumably all of England's previous managers too?)
I would have thought the FA want to win trophies as much as any fan.
It's not like a club where the owner may treat it like a cash cow without being too bothered about winning trophies.
I’d love to have an English manager but we simply have none available who are capable of taking this England team to success. We’re in a moment where we need to hire not only a proven winner but a man who will inspire the players and make them believe in his philosophy. For that reason it has to be Tuchel from those available right now, Poch hasn’t won’t anything.
Mate no trying to be rude but your delusional. Poch is one of the most overrated managers I have ever seen which is why him and tottenham got on so well. If we had him like southgate we would never beat a big team. Tuchell may not be a long long term solution with his antics but he would defo give us the best chances in the next available tournament
it is not about english or foreign coach it is about teamwork around what model we want
I counted I have lived through 11 England managers during my time watching them play. I find it hilarious that all the pundits and armchair fans know so much better, when none of the rest of us have been under the pressure , which the 11 England managers have had to work out to get England win a major international tournament. None of those managers so far have, so what makes them and the rest of us such experts?
Edit: A Dutchwoman won the Lionesses the Euros, why not hire her for the men's team?
Failure experts seeing the same thing happen with southgate that happened with the other 10
Women's football isn't even on the same level.
No one ever wanted this clown. He wouldn't even get a job in the top 6.
Because you,d be better off employing the P.E. teacher from a local boys school than the womans winning coach thats about the level womans football is check the usa womans results against schoolboy teams they got thrashed
Go to bed you nincompoop
@@christophernolan8523 top 6? Id be surprised if he got a Prem offer
Doesn’t matter who’s the manager. Still be pumped in big competitions after they’ve beaten the easy teams. Always build up for a big fall. And disrespectful to other teams.
Of all the managers available right now, to sign anyone but Tuchel is complete insanity.
Eddie howe all day long. Probably won't leave Newcastle though 😕
he isn't leaving us, if southgate goes i think rogers would be a good appointment
He needs an assistant with the tactical prowess
I think we need 1 coach but 2/3 experienced guys as assistant to help him around.
Sorry but all England missing one point. Southgate tactics are wrong. He gave too much space to France and did not close their threats. England need experienced guys
The FA should offer Southgate a promotion to an executive role. It's a way for them to give him a way out of the management role - which he's considering - and place him into a role where he can still do his best work off the pitch.
If he does choose to step down, for me the natural replacement at the moment is Gerrard. He's won honours as a manager at club level, albeit with Rangers, he's an icon to the current generation of players coming through, clearly has great leadership qualities and he has lived experience of the modern England environment.
I'm personally not against better foreign managers at all either - I would take Klopp or Pep in a dream world - but I do think England is a different kind of pressure and someone that knows it first hand will probably be better prepared to handle it.
I actually quite like Simon's Brendan Rodgers shout. Tuchel I'd imagine would hold out for a top club side
Pochettino would be perfect manager for England.
Hasn’t won anything
@@Adaobieistyping that's becoz he coached spurs who could not live up with City chelsea and liverpool becoz of their deeper pockets..England has more talent than Spurs ..he will make them dynamic and ruthless....hell , he made Dele Alli play football..
@@sugoshiyer1540 100% pochettino would turn england into an absolute monster
@@sugoshiyer1540 100% pochettino would turn england into an absolute monster
@@sugoshiyer1540 why would he choose England over a potential future job with his home country Argentina?
Tuchel...pep....or the speacial one
Why would pep downgrade
@@Adaobieistyping haha
Again you got your answers
Lets look at pre-tournament expectations under Southgate:
2018 - Quarter Final - Overacheived
2020 - Last 16 - Overacheived
2022 - Quarter Final - As expected
I'd say he's done a good job. Victim of his own success.
Who on planet earth predicted England to only get last 16 in a home European championship, even if you’re right there is 0 progression there
@@dankeeday39 Most people thought we'd get knocked out by France/Germany/Portugal
Simon and Dean = Top LADS Proper Clobber
What a grey feckin hoodie 😂
The Jordanites Club Association = Top LADS Proper Clobbers
@@lfcspectre4335 LFC Spectre and the Jordanites = Top LADS Proper Clobber
One of the best rants I've seen from Simon. Absolutely spot on.
Why the f did sterling come on instead of rashford, grealish? How has Maddison not had a single minute? He’s been the best Englishman in the league this season and I’m an Arsenal fan
The players gave it all they had.
Southgate couldn’t give it, because he never had “it” in the first place
Get Arsene in!
Too old and he never coached an international side. 👎
@@ktom5262 Most international managers only coach an international side once in their career. You've lost me.
I think that game could have gone for anyone. Both teams deserved to win. Overall Southgate didn’t make any mistakes in the last 3 games. When you lose against a better team for a small margin, why on earth would you blame the manager?
Let’s be honest here, England lost that game because of a failed penalty. Because English players tend to be mentally weak in big moments under pressure. Harry lost his composure in a high stakes situation. He couldn’t handle it. Just like other players couldn’t in the past. You need to work on your mentality.
If you talk sense around here then you're going to attract the rabid lunatics. It's better to drool from the mouth and proclaim Southgate as the anti-christ.
No they lost because the defence allowed Giroud to score the second French goal and because the attack didn't score themselves from open play. Too easy to blame Kane, the only England player who actually scored in the game and who had the guts to try for a second pen. It's a bit stupid to let Kane take two pens against his club captain who knows his game so well. Kane skied the ball because he had to improvise against Lloris. He tried to get the ball high in the top right of the net but it went wrong, which can happen to the best, not because he suddenly got the jitters. Why didn't one of the other players step up for the second pen, someone whom Lloris didn't know well? Thats down to Southgate.
Enough already! It’s OBVIOUS that Southgate isn’t capable of managing this team to victory. Poch or Tuchel… ASAP!
Not ruthless enough is spot on but it’s something in the English mentality..We’ve had top flight club managers and the patriotic types too and we’ve had teams of great players supposedly but nothing changes..
Who ever the manager is, he must be English. An English team, an English manager.
I'm not English but I agree, if you look at world cup and euros winners they almost always have a manager from their country when they win. Plus I think you'd have a hard time finding a competent foreign manager who would even want the job.
I agree. Top, self-respecting countries like Italy, France, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina don't permit a foreigner to coach their national side. And rightly so. The exception is... England. Pathetic.
Sorry, that's retarded.
Sabina Weigmann is the best and obvious choice for the job. She plays attractive football with the lionesses. She'll change England into a world power
She has already got a job and in all due respect it different to go on win euro with very good England women team with good sub options . To a squad with more depth male squad was filled with squad that arguably all could have started at different points. Plus with male game also there are more genuine contenders for all tournaments where as usa won most of women world cups and occasionally couple of others the depths of sides that could genuinely win are not as many in women game as the men.
Also I would prefer if they do end up going for female manager one day that they have held and done well both for male side and female side and then I would not have issue Sabina Is good manager but she not answer at moment
The Women's team won the Euros with a Dutch manager with a proven track record that should be enough to negate any argument about English management
too many players from top 6 clubs
there is not enough chemistry to win
sure they can a beat a team like senegal which is mid size team
but that probably not going to be enough to beat a france, a brazil, a spain or a top in form team
just take from the top 2 teams in the premier league, the attacking players ( midfields and stikers) should be from one or two teams tops
if they are from 5 or 6 teams, how do you expect them to play well together??
For Me Gareth Southgate Should Stay With This Team For The Upcoming 2024 Euros
They're On The Right Track
The right track to nowhere
Neil Critchley is the obvious choice. His record at QPR is world class
This is only my opinion but international sports are different. Players (and coaches) who may not be world beaters at club level, often fine this extra level when playing for their country. You see this all time time in international basketball tournaments where bench warmers on NBA teams play at a much higher level when playing for their country. This suggests to me that when performing for our country, you automatically find this little bit extra.
Having a non English manager, no matter how much he loves the team can't possibly to be expected to find that little bit extra level that he would find if he was coaching his native nation.
A foreign manager is great for nations ranked below 8th because they have more pressing needs on the tactical side, etc. where his skills would be needed
imho
".....we haven't won anything since 1966... fans that are so committed to the sport in this country given so little to watch" That's a SAD state of affair.
Didn't think I'd say this, but we need Mourinho. A serial winner, knows the playing style from the PL, has ruthlessness, makes proactive decisions
It's a new cycle of players coming through its a new era it should be a new manager. 3 tournaments is enough time and he has came up short. You would argue there is a regression now as they only made the world cup qf despite being in a final and SF previously. The tournaments before that they had handy runs and they minute they came up against a decent team they came up short . Every tournament. Croatia in 18 was the toughest game they faced. Italy in euros final and France in this world cup . So are they as good as being made out !
I'm not english and from the outside looking in, it seems to me that the main issue is england not having chemistry due to divison between the players who come from the top 6 who each play differently and have different style of football
the french have their own way of playing that they go back to when they play for their national team outside from their european clubs
seems to me, england can't find out the right style or can't get those top 6 english players to play like a tean, i don't see a team, i see abunch of liverpool, arsenal, man city, united, chelsea, liverpool players
when i see the french team, i just see them as french
with england it feels different than that.
We've had/heard optimism for the future for decades now!!!
France didn’t make and haven’t made a lot of changes because they don’t have the options. They’re missing Benzema and Nkunku (and Pogba and Kante). Whereas England have a very talented, full squad without injuries. Southgate def should’ve made more progressive changes. Putting on Sterling first made zero sense.
England remind me of where Chelsea were at the end of the 03/04 season; Ranieri was a much adored coach, but his decision making and inability to win the really big games with talented squad cost him. England are at that crossroads, either stick with the same situation or push on
Using that analogy, Southgate is gonna go on and win the world cup with the USA......
He won the prem with Leicester
I'm Man United fan 55 years ...Gerrard for England job ..more qualified than Southgate and more respected..
he did such job at villa
@@peterdudgon3830 , I know , still better tho , Rangers and Liverpool experience.. English.
Can anyone tell me who is the lioness manager
Southgate won the League Cup with both Aston Villa (in 1995-96) and Middlesbrough (in 2003-04) and captained Crystal Palace to win the First Division championship in 1993-94.
Is that meant to be impressive 😂
And put raheem Stirling on who had trained for 5 days and arrived back in Qatar thursday I think yeah great substitutes
@@farindeeba543 no mate. Just a fact.
@@markorton6587 totally agree.
@@SeanyGunit what like the fact we lose to every decent team we play?
Going by what we seen in the final I don’t think it would matter who manages England until there is a huge change in we’d belief and right mindset something that has been lacking for generations. You look at the Argentinians and the French for example.
England need the SGP to produce a proper system for future England teams to beat the very best teams. Copied France and SGP opened in 2012 so a matter time for it to come to fruition in terms of the coaches and also a way of playing.
I don’t understand this clamour to hire a Guardiola or even Tuchel stature manager. Spain have just appointed their U21 coach to replace Enrique, Low was not established when he took over Germany, Deschamps was from within the French setup and not a top club manager. The point is, even the top nations who produce great coaches rarely appoint them as these managers want to be at CL clubs.
Most nations just appoint someone from within their setup who has a natural ability to create a healthy environment and good man management skills.