I think Sabine is pre-cut monster but has a tendency to fold post cut because everyone left has to be very good playing against Sabine to get there. She also gatekeeps rogue decks. I will say having your matches done in 30 minutes and hanging out for 25 is more relaxing than grinding to time playing Qira :)
Oh yes, playing the Bossk since set 2 release with very similar list and it's super fun when it clicks and you do like 6 things in one phase and like 15dmg on base. Glad you featured this!
with how often i've run the yellow boba and han matchup, I feel more like they're even after a few tweaks. They're basically tied for 2nd in my book and will be chasing the Qi'ra dragon all set.
kylo comes in against decks he can kill the leader or bigger units like Boba Fett. Palps return against anything that's going to discard you or the game is going to go super long.
One thing I would like to see in that chart of conversion rates is what percentage of the field at each event each leader/color was as well. As in, on GenCon day 1, how many total Boba Yellows started the tournament, and so on. I don't think it would change the overall gist of what the chart is conveying, but it would probably give a more accurate picture of a given leader/base combo's true performance. But with the sample sizes so far, it might not mean much. Just something to think about as more big tournaments happen and the meta further matures.
Will you do a tier list of all the leader ? Curious of your take on Grand Inquisitor, Luke Green that seems to did well earlier in the meta, Rey, Yellow Tarkin, etc.
I don't do tier lists because they exist without context and ccgs are all about context. Plenty of CCs do. I do videos about the actual/expected meta and how to navigate it. I think all of those leaders are very playable
New player here. Since you posted this last week, I've been goofing on that Bossk a little bit and having a lot of fun with it! I have an incomplete collection and am swapping in some sideboard cards to make up for gaps. Plus there are cards I like to just throw a 1x into the deck to see what it does. I am running 2x Kylo's TIE Silencer and 1x Kylo (limited copies of each). What do I cut to slot in a single Palp's Return? It feels weird cutting a Bounty card in Bossk, but I'm not sure I really need 3x of the Bounty Hunter's Quarry?
The Quarry is really important to have a massive tempo gain early in the game, especially if you can pop it on bossks flip turn. You can also play Merc gunships over kylos ship. For the palps return I'd probably cut another event you don't love
@@SWU_KTOD Thanks, this is very helpful! Like I said, still very new to the game. But I've been a bit torn on Kylo's TIE Silencer anyway - I get its utility in Kylo, but in this deck I'm not sure it makes sense to me yet. Unless it's like just something to hold onto in case I'm expecting a lot of like Bazine, Bodhi, Spark of Rebellion, etc?
If you had a better play you could hold it but nobody would ever Bazine it. You're better off just playing it on curve and if you get the value someday it's gravy
Was your Boba Cunning package useful vs the Sabines? Last tournament 4 of my 5 Swiss matches were against her and I really struggle, with the Boba Cunning standard matchup.
Talking about how strong Sabine's presence is, other than event synergy what would your reason be for running Bossk over Syndicate Lackeys in Boba yellow? I've been practicing Yellow Boba and prefer lackeys for that 5 power.
@@SWU_KTOD that makes sense for the Darksaber argument. In that regard though Bossk would be equally as slow, depending on how event heavy the deck is and the opportunity cost of playing events before he dies to get pings versus just putting bodies on the board and he hits for 4 only. I like him but I'm torn on that 5 slot generally.
You mentioned Lom Pyke. Do you think, you can use his effect to give one of your units a shield, even if there is no enemy unit to give a shield to? The "if you do" confuses me. You can also write it the way, "Give a shield to one of your units. Than give a shield to an enemy unit
Greetings, how do you kill a boba if you wait for him to flip and you flip second? Then he just wears his OP armor , last set you were ECLing steadfast battalion after deploying first... So still wouldn't have a chance to wear his armor.
@@danausi I'm on maul only in my green boba. One of our subs used my list w some slight meta changes to come in second at the big tournament in Germany on Sun
Gotta love the best meta deck turning into the most expensive deck in the game - 3 Vaders, 3 Vigilance, 2 SLB, 2 Snokes, 2 Avengers, 2 Devastators. My wallet hurts just thinking about it.
@@SWU_KTOD hahaha that is an hilarious answer and It also makes me feel good that it's as mysterious as it seems! Any recommendations for a replacement? Was thinking the tie phantoms could slide in to have some nice anti control?
@@joebouchard9150literally anything is better than that card. I wouldn't be looking at that deck. I'm sure the pilot was a fine player but that list is not refined imo
@@SWU_KTOD They've been relegated, and I don't exactly understand why. I think hard control has a place in this game and isn't that far behind tier decks like Qi'ra or Boba, although they struggle against Sabine. I still believe they are a good option. Great content, cheers.
@@jordiselma7260 we've found that they no longer beat Qi'ra, but as always don't take my word for it, I'm just trying to give people a read on the meta. Thanks for the detailed reply and kind words
@@SWU_KTOD It’s one I’ve seen a few times, I’m kicking one around. I don’t know that it’s strong enough yet, but the multiple pings from underworld cards can put pressure on your opponent. Cad leader, Proxima, Salacious, and MaKlounkee are the base. Then if you draw them 4-Lom and Zuckuss are used to K.O most leaders.
Eh, yellow Sabine was better set 1. 🤪 I don’t think this was the premier aggro deck in entirety. The data supports this. I’m very concerned with how good a top table yellow boba can be into Sabine. It’s such a predictable deck.
@@SWU_KTOD I meant that not so serious, but more with a wink. No need to insult anyone. :) I know about the public list. 😉 He put it in his deck tier though…🤷🏻♂️
I think Sabine is pre-cut monster but has a tendency to fold post cut because everyone left has to be very good playing against Sabine to get there. She also gatekeeps rogue decks. I will say having your matches done in 30 minutes and hanging out for 25 is more relaxing than grinding to time playing Qira :)
Absolutely
Oh yes, playing the Bossk since set 2 release with very similar list and it's super fun when it clicks and you do like 6 things in one phase and like 15dmg on base. Glad you featured this!
Such a great and fun deck!
Great video and summary of the current meta, which is exactly what I expect from KTOD. Listen to BobbySapphire folks!
You mentioned comission for the boba green deck. Ive been having a lot of fun with that card! Grabs falcon in heroism
Yeah I love the card
Excellent breakdown, Jimmy Emeralds!
That Bossk deck looks super fun and actually budget friendly if you replace the Silencers with Mercenary Gunships
great call!
Surprising to see that mono han1 made such an impact on the meta! He's been a compelling leader since he was spoiled
I agree, I love how many new decks you can make with him
with how often i've run the yellow boba and han matchup, I feel more like they're even after a few tweaks. They're basically tied for 2nd in my book and will be chasing the Qi'ra dragon all set.
I really like the bossk deck. I had to swap silencers for Merc gunships. I havent worked out when to sideboard in the kylos and palps return
kylo comes in against decks he can kill the leader or bigger units like Boba Fett. Palps return against anything that's going to discard you or the game is going to go super long.
I don’t have Vaders so this Bossk list is very appealing. But does it run better with them? I see most Bossk Greens are running Vaders.
@@bradfordh35 I wouldn't run vaders in it, our team isn't but you do you
One thing I would like to see in that chart of conversion rates is what percentage of the field at each event each leader/color was as well. As in, on GenCon day 1, how many total Boba Yellows started the tournament, and so on. I don't think it would change the overall gist of what the chart is conveying, but it would probably give a more accurate picture of a given leader/base combo's true performance. But with the sample sizes so far, it might not mean much. Just something to think about as more big tournaments happen and the meta further matures.
The data out of limitless.gg was ironically more limited than we were hoping and we don't have a good way to get that data.
@@SWU_KTOD That’s a bummer and not your fault for sure. Appreciate the overall analysis and explanations!
Will you do a tier list of all the leader ? Curious of your take on Grand Inquisitor, Luke Green that seems to did well earlier in the meta, Rey, Yellow Tarkin, etc.
I don't do tier lists because they exist without context and ccgs are all about context. Plenty of CCs do. I do videos about the actual/expected meta and how to navigate it. I think all of those leaders are very playable
Hi Thx for all the feedback Wow you guys did will at Gencon. I like Qira also - BUT I don't have any Vader's. How would change it and do have 3 mauls
I probably wouldn't be running qira without vader, but there are plenty of great maul decks out there
Fantastic Video! Curious to hear your thoughts between Troy's Han and the Rebel Version. Which do you think is better in the meta?
I'm excited to try the rebel version it looks hot
I'm nervous to pilot sabine green in a tournament purely because I think SO many people are planning to at the very least, sideboard against it.
Completely agree
What to use instead of darksaber? a little bit expenisve
New player here. Since you posted this last week, I've been goofing on that Bossk a little bit and having a lot of fun with it! I have an incomplete collection and am swapping in some sideboard cards to make up for gaps. Plus there are cards I like to just throw a 1x into the deck to see what it does. I am running 2x Kylo's TIE Silencer and 1x Kylo (limited copies of each). What do I cut to slot in a single Palp's Return? It feels weird cutting a Bounty card in Bossk, but I'm not sure I really need 3x of the Bounty Hunter's Quarry?
The Quarry is really important to have a massive tempo gain early in the game, especially if you can pop it on bossks flip turn. You can also play Merc gunships over kylos ship.
For the palps return I'd probably cut another event you don't love
@@SWU_KTOD Thanks, this is very helpful! Like I said, still very new to the game. But I've been a bit torn on Kylo's TIE Silencer anyway - I get its utility in Kylo, but in this deck I'm not sure it makes sense to me yet. Unless it's like just something to hold onto in case I'm expecting a lot of like Bazine, Bodhi, Spark of Rebellion, etc?
If you had a better play you could hold it but nobody would ever Bazine it. You're better off just playing it on curve and if you get the value someday it's gravy
I feel like Palp/blue and Han2/Green are prime to take down some of these new meta "fixtures"
if Palp blue can solve the sabine problems it has or if sabine gets pushed out of the meta (not likely imo) then I agree
Was your Boba Cunning package useful vs the Sabines? Last tournament 4 of my 5 Swiss matches were against her and I really struggle, with the Boba Cunning standard matchup.
Yes boba Cunning is great against sabine
Tell me more about 30pt Qi-ra vs. Sabine and what the drawbacks to 30pt Qi-ra are against everyone else, please!
on the way!
Great video!
Thanks!
I'm excited for Blue Bossk. No one played it but once the list gets figured out... its coming. 😂
Palpatine yellow here!
gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
Badass Tshirt!
Thanks!!
@@SWU_KTOD how do I get one??
@@uncouth420 Symbiode in the discord designed and printed them
Talking about how strong Sabine's presence is, other than event synergy what would your reason be for running Bossk over Syndicate Lackeys in Boba yellow? I've been practicing Yellow Boba and prefer lackeys for that 5 power.
Lackey is too slow. By the time it's online their stuff has been buffed w medal ceremony or Darksaber. It works in green boba when you can ramp
@@SWU_KTOD that makes sense for the Darksaber argument. In that regard though Bossk would be equally as slow, depending on how event heavy the deck is and the opportunity cost of playing events before he dies to get pings versus just putting bodies on the board and he hits for 4 only. I like him but I'm torn on that 5 slot generally.
@@KuneTear I'm not relying on bossk in those matches either, but I prefer him across the board
What is the "A New Adventure" & "Merc Gunship" combo? If/when your opponent steals it you can just take it back?
Yup and you get the untap from boba so it only costs 1 resource
@@SWU_KTOD Hilarious, I love it. Thanks!
Just getting into the game. What would you recommend deck wise for a new player to start with?
Depends on your budget and knowledge of the game but I'd look at the blue han deck
You mentioned Lom Pyke. Do you think, you can use his effect to give one of your units a shield, even if there is no enemy unit to give a shield to? The "if you do" confuses me. You can also write it the way, "Give a shield to one of your units. Than give a shield to an enemy unit
No, the if you do is preclusive. If you don't give the enemy shield you can't get one yourself
@@SWU_KTOD that is poorly worded I think ^^, but thx bud!
I'm still here sticking with my Rey/Red...
Greetings, how do you kill a boba if you wait for him to flip and you flip second? Then he just wears his OP armor , last set you were ECLing steadfast battalion after deploying first... So still wouldn't have a chance to wear his armor.
You have other ways but it does take some effort. Overwhelming Barrage into an attack. Maul. Takedown. You just have to plan.
Cool I see, Maul kinda hard though needing dual ramp already at turn 5 while you'd still have to defend too.
I know many guys are missing cunnings, what would be the best substitute for it in bounty hunters decks?
If you don't have cunnings just play boba green or han green. It's the main reason to be mono yellow it's irreplaceable
@@SWU_KTOD I see, then we start to have a vader problem and then looks like we need to move to bossk/bane or even boba ships variant.
@@danausi I'm on maul only in my green boba. One of our subs used my list w some slight meta changes to come in second at the big tournament in Germany on Sun
I’m surprised no mention of agro Leia. I have been tweaking it for a while and it beats everything handily except boba yellow.
I haven't seen anyone play Leia in set 2 nor heard of it happening
Late reply, but it feels like the Leia and Sabine aggro decks have a lot in common, what are you doing different from Sabine?
Gotta love the best meta deck turning into the most expensive deck in the game - 3 Vaders, 3 Vigilance, 2 SLB, 2 Snokes, 2 Avengers, 2 Devastators. My wallet hurts just thinking about it.
If you wanna play you gotta pay baby. If it were easy everyone would do it. Like Sabine!
The reason those cards are expensive is largely because they end up in high end meta decks
Snoke is not that expensive ☺️
With poe and darksaber sabine cant even be considered budget anymore. @@unlimitedempire
So just trade in other hobbies to pay for this one.
Whats the best way to use the Outlaw Corona on palp yellow?
I don't know how to answers this, it's probably to beat up on small ships but in my opinion it belongs under your drink to keep moister off your table
@@SWU_KTOD hahaha that is an hilarious answer and It also makes me feel good that it's as mysterious as it seems! Any recommendations for a replacement? Was thinking the tie phantoms could slide in to have some nice anti control?
@@joebouchard9150literally anything is better than that card. I wouldn't be looking at that deck. I'm sure the pilot was a fine player but that list is not refined imo
I will make a tarkin top 3 deck 💪
What about Iden and Vader hard control?
I talked about them both, what about what about them?
@@SWU_KTOD They've been relegated, and I don't exactly understand why. I think hard control has a place in this game and isn't that far behind tier decks like Qi'ra or Boba, although they struggle against Sabine.
I still believe they are a good option.
Great content, cheers.
@@jordiselma7260 we've found that they no longer beat Qi'ra, but as always don't take my word for it, I'm just trying to give people a read on the meta. Thanks for the detailed reply and kind words
I play none of them, sweeeeet
Then nobody will be ready for your heat!
I Play normally boba red Space. Good against Sabine and qira. But Double yellow i loose
No Cad Ramp? Cramp Bane deck?
Is that a deck? Never seen it get played at a big event.
@@SWU_KTOD It’s one I’ve seen a few times, I’m kicking one around. I don’t know that it’s strong enough yet, but the multiple pings from underworld cards can put pressure on your opponent. Cad leader, Proxima, Salacious, and MaKlounkee are the base. Then if you draw them 4-Lom and Zuckuss are used to K.O most leaders.
Is this game fun , why or why not ?
Amazing mechanics and flavor with an all time great IP
are u pau gasol?
I've gotten that many times actually, but not in a while!
Eh, yellow Sabine was better set 1. 🤪
I don’t think this was the premier aggro deck in entirety. The data supports this.
I’m very concerned with how good a top table yellow boba can be into Sabine. It’s such a predictable deck.
Wooooo trying to launch his patreon and KTOD leaking his best list for free on youtube…😅
It's been public since gen con you jabroni lmao
@@SWU_KTOD I meant that not so serious, but more with a wink. No need to insult anyone. :)
I know about the public list. 😉
He put it in his deck tier though…🤷🏻♂️
@@MrBefaro you get offended at "Jabroni"? Kids these days.....
@@russkyle2887 Nono, all good. :) But if you‘re not a native speaker it‘s sometimes hard to know. 😄