Leoxz XF1 Review: Moza R9 Wheelbase
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Idk if this is the best wheel out there but a big leap in bang for buck. apparently, adapters for both Fanatec and Moza, and as amazing as their wheels are, the whole display thing is such a good add on
Yeah it has been a really good wheel. Had to get used to the smaller size, but with smaller hands, I absolutely love it. The Moza QR make it an easy add and works like a charm. They still have some kinks to work out, but once they get them rectified, then I think it will be much better.
@@grayzedynamics Moza FSR is coming out too, similar specs, would've be nice if you get a chance to compare
@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 that is the goal. Hoping to sell my GS wheel as I no longer use and get the FSR. I'm looking to pre-order now.
@@grayzedynamics could you do a review on pedal sets? Or just the ones you use?
I did a review a while back. I switched from the CSL elites to HE Sprint pedals. Check it out.
Informative review, been thinking about getting this wheel and you pointed out a lot of positive and negatives with the wheel but it’s hard to ignore at the price point! Thanks again
Yeah it's good some good points. Going to do a live Q/A here soon. Have some updated feedback. See if I can get people on and answer some questions.
I want to say I don’t want it but I keep looking at it. 😂
😂😂 is a nice wheel. I do like it. The minor annoyances aside I do like it. Plus the company is super responsive.
Ray Can I have a question? I have the same steering wheel, and I want to put a sticker on the encoder knob, but when I try to unscrew it, it feels like the bolt is stuck in the thread. Is it normal? I'm afraid of ruining the thread if I try it harder. How could you remove the cap?
When I had the wheel. It came off quite easily. They may have added some loctite. Although I am not certain. It just needs to unscrew a little to remove. I didn’t have an issue.
I’m definitely getting this for my DD1 it’s 1/3 the price of Gomez, Rexing, Cube controls etc
It's a nice wheel. Just be mindful of you have large hands it is rather small at 270mm. I have small hands and it took getting used to. It's nice tho. The software needs polishing but they do have updates coming and have made some changes to the wheel.
I know I am late here. But I just bought the Pro version of this wheel and it is not coming with the Simagic QR attached. How hard was it to install the QR on the wheel if you dont mind ?
Nice wheel too. The pro version is much better. The simhub integration makes it great. The QR ISN'T hard but will require you to take off the entire front of the wheel. Make sure to be careful with the screws. I striped one and it sucks to get out. So be careful but it's not hard at all. Make sure to unscrew the Bluetooth single as well on the back. Easy as pie. Lol
I don't agree with you regarding pre-installed stickers. I want to decorate the wheel my way if i purchased it.
That's cool. I like them both ways to be honest. However, if I customize and you send to me the way I asked then I am cool with that. For example my Simtec wheel came with stickers pre-installed and aligned properly that's awesome, if I cannot customize than that would suck. I think it all depends to be honest. Most wheels come with stickers I don't want as well, so that makes it even harder. So it all depends for me.
Question - how’s it held up? Any cable issues etc?
It was actually too small for multiclass racing so I sold to a friend. He still has it but was much too small for me. It's size is a limiting factor unless you do a lot of open wheel cars.
hello Grayze how are you ?
i have news, Finally the cicuit Board of the wheel is fautly.
i send a video to LEOXZ and he confirm me, the wheel need repair
very Good reactivity for Leoxz and my Seller Race Anywhere :)
I'm good. Oh that's good news. Glad to hear they are going to replace. Hopefully that is not your only wheel. I really did enjoy that wheel. It is perfect for formula racing. Do you use for anything else?
@@grayzedynamics yes i Have 3 other Wheels
P1 Sim eau rouge Plus Forged Carbon
Hub Turn Racing And a custom Ferrari F1 Wheel
I Use The Leo for Ir.04 on iracing
Cool. So you've got a few just in case. Nice.
Hey bud, great review. Got one on the way myself. Could you answer a quick question for me? With the dual clutch, which paddle was the adjustable side? Thanks man
Thanks. Much appreciated. So it’s set to the right paddle releases the clutch and left you slowly release. Left side is adjustable. You can adjust right on the dash.
@@grayzedynamics ah, thank you very much!
Welcome
Great review bro! Glad to see another one of us in similar racing. Dope! Mine is in the way!
Thanks man. Much appreciated. Right always great to see a familiar face around town. lol. It’s a nice wheel for the price. Great for open wheel racing for sure. Let me know how much ya like it.
I mate nice review and will definitly buy this wheel but i am wondering how it would connect with simucube base?
Only by usb-c connector or is the bluetooth back antenna compatible with wireless simucube 2 motor base?
The wheel is nice. I only use for Formula racing. The screen works well but needs more data and updates. It would connect via the QR of your choice. The standard QR from simucube would work. The Bluetooth would connect via your computer. Simucubes Bluetooth is proprietary. If you have Bluetooth on the pc it would work. Doesn't seem to be any lag.
@@grayzedynamics i am not so sure because on manual it is written that Qr has to be wired to be able to connect on pc via bluetooth and you should know that simucube qr does not have wire like simagic or fanatec. I will wait for other reviews before going for it.
The wheel comes with a USB to usb c cable. It connects directly to the PC with USB. I also used the Bluetooth to connect to my pc and you can connect. However, you have to connect via USB for power. It does not have an internal battery that can be used wirelessly.
@@grayzedynamics yes it is really a shame that they did not put a round secured connection on the back instead of useless usb-c, it would have been mostly perfect for the price range.
I bought last year the simagic gt1 wheel and had to return it because of this usb-c back connector which broke after a week of use and I am pretty sure this wheel might have the same problem in long terms of use. Many thx for responding to my questions.
@@herveroman8661 most welcome. I don't think it will since I have a hub attached to my rig. It's not far away at all. If it's far definitely need a better connector. They choose this route to save the end user but would have been nicer.
Man this is such incredible quality and style. And the price is absolutely perfect. But god I’m upset it is more complex and suspect software wise. This is why native f1 wheels like FSR or Sf1000 still in contention. Otherwise man wish I could justify it
I agree. The software is its downfall. It has some really great elements. It has the ability to be a great wheel. Especially for the money. The software just needs to be SimHub compatible. Just use SimHub and all the rest is good.
I hope this wheel will work Moza’s newest R12 base. Looking forward to getting it later on.
Its a rather nice wheel. They have made some upgrades since I purchased. It is quite small so it is only really useful in open wheel cars. Get the Pro for the custom simhub dash's too. It'll work with the R12 but if not you can always use as a usb wheel.
maybe a stupid question but how do you put the QR on it. i now have this steering wheel with fanatec but i ordered a moza wheel base and now i already have the QR from moza but how do you put it on
Not a stupid question. Just different QR systems. You'll have to take the entire front off. Make sure to unscrew each gently and take off the Bluetooth dongle. Than you screw the QR directly to the back unless you have an extension.
Thanks there are no tutorial videos showing this or are there 😬 ❤️
I am not sure to be honest. I wish they had done a QR plate similar to Bavarian Simtec.
yeah I don't know if I'm going to get this done. you also have to connect that white cable on your wheel 😬
It definitely wasn't my favorite thing to do but once done, you are good. You got it. 👍🏾
Wheel looks great especially for price. I bought a SimX wheel from a company in the UK and it was a lot more money, wayyy worse build quality and horrible wait time and customer service. So this seems like even more of a bargain.
Definitely a bargain. However if your hands are larger than small. It’ll feel tiny. I did like it, but ultimately went with the F-Pro. I think they have a great wheel for the price. And it’s a hell of a value. Just depends on what wheelbase you have. If you have a Moza. The FSR may be better value. Simagic FX pro. If you have Fanatec then definitely a better value since they don’t have a wheel in their lineup that’s close.
Do you know if with fanatec ecosysteme you need the fanatec hub (at 200€) or the QR that you can buy directly with the wheel is enough ?
From my understanding you can just use their hub because it can be powered which is better. You may still be to use the usb a well.
Why do you and the wheel look ghostly? I can see through the wheel at some points lmao
🤣😂🤣😂 cuz in my learning days I decided to do a stupid green screen. Disregard those earlier clips as me being green. Hahahahaah
@@grayzedynamics hahahaha I thought it was a green screen but wasn't quite sure 🤣 all good was just curious lol
Yeah. Not my finest hour. Lol. I have matured quite a bit since then. 😂
@@grayzedynamics still a great and informative video nonetheless, I want to get one of these wheels but the CDN conversion is brutal lol
Would you prefer it over the Fsr in terms of haptic feeling and is this thing simhub compatible for iraxing and ac? I think the specs look great for 150 euros less then the fsr. Great Review!
Thanks. Much appreciated. No I would not recommend over the FSR. If you are only doing F1 the XF1 is good but it is not versatile for any other type of racing. The small size makes it hard to use for GT3 or any other racing outside of open wheel. Also neither is really "compatible" with Simhub. The XF1 works through simhub but dash is not customizable. Both have their own dashes and the FSR has Moza only dash's.
@@grayzedynamics In terms of feeling is the Moza the better high quality one?
If your looking for entry level. I personally love my R9. I had the CSL DD, have used others. It's really well put together and I have loved it. I'd recommend it for anyone wanting DD at this price range.
@@grayzedynamics Yes and in terms of a steering wheel i could buy 2 like the fsr and the cs (the cheaper round one) or the gs and the more expensive round one
I've had them all except the RS. The CS is great value, especially if you get the turn racing 305 then it becomes extremely versatile. Round for drifting and oval. GT style rim on the 305. The GS and FSR are amazing, however with the CS and 305, get the R9 and possibly some other upgrades. What kind of rig are you on?
If we just use a generic qr (not theirs) and connect the wheel to our PC with the usb cable , will the wheel screen be powered? Or does it need to draw power from the wheelbase?
I had mine connected via pc usb and the screen works great. You don’t need their QR unless you do not want to use the usb. Which for me is not a problem. My usb hub is connected to my rig. Power and telemetry are via the pc.
Hi, awesome video, I’m definitely looking to buy it, but really wanted to ask if any of those updates have come up that your were requesting for - also how sturdy is the wheel, can it handle the 25Nm from the Simucube 2 Pro? Another question I saw that the screen froze at times then continues, is that a common problem or was there a fix
Thanks
I no longer have the wheel myself. I had for a while and it's quite sturdy. I only used for Formula racing and it was good. However since the size is so small not very versatile. Additionally, the main reason was the screen just wasn't useful. I had no use for it in my current seating position, plus you could only use the dash's they provide. Simhub is much better and I use a phone at the moment. Much of the data didn't transfer over, so I didn't keep and upgraded to the F-Pro from Cube Controls. They did come out with a new wheel with many of the updates. I just don't have one to review. Honestly it felt like it was still in beta. Good wheel for the money, but needed updating. The new wheel looks to have many of those things but I don't have so can't confirm.
Thanks for the reply and the help, yeah I’m not too sure what I’m going to do as yet, obviously the price makes it enticing and I want something a bit different so looking for something else
If you only use it for open wheel racing. It'll work, and depending on budget it is a great price. Just wanted a finished wheel when I received is all. Did work with caveats. They may have addressed, as I was in constant contact with them. They were working through issues regularly and addressing them. My hope is Bavarian Simtec has a great wheel. Much more costly but looks amazing.
Great video mate would be cool if you had a B camera over your should over to one side so we can see a close up to cut to for the unboxing process itself
I'll do in the future. Thanks man.
275mm is too small .
Not for F1 races. It’s perfect for the formula racing. I quite like it, for GT racing not so much.
@@grayzedynamics depends on shoulder width/hand size I suppose. I've raced with narrow wheels in the past and get uncomfortable in long races, 300mm is the sweet spot for both GT and formula racing imo.
I gotcha. I had the Moza GS and it was 300mm. The wheel is great for GT but the Leoxz feels better for 360 degree. Like you said tho. Hand size would make a big difference. Although I believe F1 wheels are 275 I believe. They look larger on TV then I saw one. For me the formula racing works for the 275. I tried LMP and GT and it’s not even close to suitable. I do need to use the 300 mm wheel for GT and need to change to 540 degree.
It’s realistic for formula cars, most of those wheels are 270-280mm
Thats why the Fanatec is a similar size also, everyone’s trying to replicate the f1 wheels.
Hey, does the leds that are not for rpm do anything. Thanks.
Yes. They are mapped to cars on either side. However the software needs to be revamped. It’s in more of a beta stage but getting better. They can also be used for DRS and some other features. They were still working out the kinks but it was getting better.
Does the force feedback work on the Moza base ?
Yup. No issues there. Connect the QR and go racing. Just wired to my USB.
You’re definitely on r/simracing lol
I think we all are. Lol
Nice intro!!!!.. so thats a wheel for the r9? Nice, glad they make it work with that wheelbase. More alternatives
Yup, it works pretty well. As long as you have to QR works perfectly. For the price it is definitely a nice option.
Here to support your channel bro. was also thinking of getting this wheel, especially at that price point. Nice video thanks for your finding
Thanks Drizz. Much appreciated. The wheel is good for the price. They have made some updates and refreshed the wheel so they may have addressed some of my complaints. However, it also depends on which ecosystem you have joined too. Some great wheels from so many companies.
@@grayzedynamics i’m still in doubt in what brand i want to go for. Been using fanatec csl elite for around 2 years now, sold those and looking to get into DD wheels. I’m thinking of Simucube pro/ simagic apha u base and maybe in combination with this wheel
Gotcha. I'd throw the Moza R9 and FSR wheel. Although I may go with Simucube Pro as well.
@@grayzedynamics heard about the Moza as well, gonna check it out
Either way a lot of choices out there.
Is it the sport or the pro that you review here?
At the time this was the only wheel they offered. It is likely the sport and not the Pro. They have made quite a few updates since then.
@@grayzedynamicsTY! Do you know if I can use it with the asetek forte base and the quick release? If so, do I need to plug the cable into the qr or the pc still?
@lennertester well if you are using Asetek. You should be able to plug directly into the QR since Asetek passes data and power. So you should be okay.
@@grayzedynamicsI am on TM now and i’d buy it now to play on TM and when I upgrade to Asetek (probably around October when my birthday comes around) I would love to be able to play on there as well just by changing the QR.
Gotcha. If you can find an adapter for TM than you should be good and Asetek has a great QR system to allow any wheel to be attached to their QR. Makes life easy.
Thanks Ray! Looks very promising for the price. I do have long fingers so probably would have to wait to try it or have a go with the FSR wheel.
Yeah. If you have larger hands, it may not be as comfortable. But it is Fun to drive. My next and hopefully last wheel for a while I want the new GSI Hyper F1 wheel. Can't wait to see it.
it would be really cool to put the w12 dash in the wheel
Yeah, I hear they may be coming out with the ability to use third party dash's. The wheel is an excellent F1 wheel when considering the price point.
@@grayzedynamicsWell they put a nail in that coffin... Here's the "pro" version of the wheel that has "full" simhub compatibility. Around the same price too... But hey thanks for beta testing the first iteration of the wheel. /Rant... Just bummed I was told there was simhub compatibility on the sport... When actually it has nothing to do with simhub because all it does is feed telemetry. Ah well still a great wheel for the money haha!
Hello I have a problem with the steering wheel
I'm on Simucube 2 Pro so I connected the steering wheel via USB.
The steering wheel is up to date and Simbridge is well installed.
unfortunately after a while I have the Dashboard which loses information
I also have the steering wheel that disconnects and Simhub locks up
Do you have a idea to solve the problem?
Do you have multiple things connected to simhub? Also are you connected to the pc or a powered usb hub? For me I had to many things connected to simhub and if would crash. I disconnected my transducers and it worked better. I also installed a clean copy of simhub as well. Also try running simhub in administrator mode. That usually will make sure it gets the resources it be needs.
@@grayzedynamics yes i have Laptimer and an iflag connected to simhub. yes the wheel is directly connected on the PC. i will try to reinstall Simhub
Thanks I'll let you know if it worked
Cool let me know. I had a ton and simhub kept crashing. Let me know if it works.
Hello i instal a clean copy off simhub and the wheel works great
I will test by reactivating the Laptimer and the iflag hoping that everything works
Great. Fingers crossed for ya. I have had to reset it still today. I have quite a few items attached to simhub.
thank you, great content
Thank you.
Good honest review! looks the part! Nine job Ray.
Thanks Patric
Since dd pro is where ps compatibility lies, leoxz does offer a fanatec connection I believe to base, that means it works with that console?
Oh boy that's a hard question to answer. I think the compatibility is in the base and if connected you should be fine. Forever I cannot be certain, and if it's powered through the base, it'll have to be connected Bluetooth. Which I'm pretty positive doesn't connect to console. I'd lean towards no but I would check. I only use PC for racing. Wish I could help.
@@grayzedynamics I already have simhub working on my PS5 with Gran Turismo and the F1 games. I emailed them as well to get their opinion
Let me know what you find out. I'm curious to know. Good luck
@@grayzedynamics they won't give me a technical answer, all I get is wheel not ps licensed, but it doesn't need to be. only thing that can be done is to buy one and try, but that might end up being a $500 paper weight 😳
Yeah I wouldnt try it myself. That chip has to be embedded in the wheel I believe. That's why they are more on Fanatec correct? The Xbox equivalent is cheaper I believe. But again I could be wrong. I know Will at Boosted has highlighted this before.
Is it difficult to put the QR? I have to get that same flyer and watching the videos I don't know how to put the QR
You have to take all the screws off the front. And unscrew the Bluetooth single. Once you do then you connect to the wheel
@@grayzedynamics Thank you very much, it has to arrive in a few days and I had not seen anyone putting the QR and I had that doubt
No worries. One bit of advice. New careful with the screws. I stripped one of mine and it was a headache. Be careful with them all. You will have to remove the small ones then the larger. Don't forget the BT as well. You will also have to remove rotary encoders to put on the stickers. Just take it slow.
@@grayzedynamics I looked for videos but none of them showed the installation of the QR, I come from Thrustmaster which is totally different and today the Moza R9 base arrives, I hope it is not difficult to configure the base in the software
It's not hard at all and you will love it. What games do you race primarily? Dialing in your setting for what you want is key. The R9 is the happy place unless you just want more but trust me you will be SUPER HAPPY. QR is super easy to attach to other wheels. Unlike it's rivals but I think you will be happy with the purchase.
This video was just what I was looking for. I like the look of this wheel but for me, the USB-C connection and the few issues like build quality and rev lights, make me pause on going for this right now. I hope they can upgrade it accordingly soon. Thanks man!
Yeah. It's got good bones. The concept and idea is good. The quality is B at the time of the review. They have made some updates and changes, however, I do not have the updated version to review. At the time of this video, now of a beta test. Good but just need cleaned up. The price is what makes it very appealing. Welcome man. Race fast. ✌🏾️
@@grayzedynamics quick update: so I emailed the company via their website and received an email yesterday telling me that the usb connection has been upgraded now to USB-XS9 an improvement and is available for purchase now.
Needless to say, I've ordered this Formula Wheel. ☺️
Nice. Yeah the usb C was a clear mistake and glad to see they have rectified. You should do a video of sorts. I'd love to see the new upgrades. I think it is necessary to keep it more reliable. It's a nice wheel. Especially for the price but is small and the dash is being upgraded. Hear they will eventually support simhub more. Good luck and let me know how it turns out.
@@grayzedynamics For sure, I'll make a video once I have it. Peace bro. 👊🏾
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Would you reccomend this wheel if I have a Simucube base? This checks every box other that the type c connector isn't secured and Im worried it'll pull out all the time when driving since there is no locking mechanism
I would recommend if you only do open wheel and formula racing. The 270mm is small. The type c didn’t pop out at all but my hub is attached to my base. Never had an issue. If you race anything other than open wheel cars, and only use one wheel, then I’d suggest another. But if you have multiple it’s a sweet wheel. Just keep in mind they are still updating software and software. So the software is more in beta but the wheel is nice.
@@grayzedynamics Thanks for the reply, this would be a dedicated formula wheel for me. Im trying to choose between this, the Ascher F28, a USB Converted Fanatec V2.5, and the Cube Controls Formula Sport/Pro. Would you say the build quality of this is comparable to those or is it more in the DIY quality range. Thanks again!
There are areas that feel DIY but with it being their first wheel, it’s also first runs. I would say the Cube F-Pro is amazing and of all these wheels I’d recommend but it is also quite expensive. Plus the feature set is great on the F-Pro. If you want and can use a screen on your wheel the XF1 is quite nice but not practical for me. Haven’t used the Asher wheel but those I have watched have switched to the F-Pro. Only drawback is you must use gloves with the F-Pro. What’s your budget?
@@grayzedynamics my budget is right around $500 usd. I found the cube sport for $400 used, the older formula pro for $500 used, and the ascher f28 for $500 used. Also open to other brands though
If I were in your shoes. I’d get the XF1 new.
Display it's compatible with JRT or SimHub?
It has to run using simhub and there simbridge app. You can't use custom dash's only there's. I've spoken with them a ton lately. They've got some syncing issues and I'm hoping they let us use custom.
Did you use a regular Moza QR (70mm)? Or their smaller width QR (50mm)?
I used the regular Moza QR. They didn't have their QR when I ordered.
Hi, is this wheel better for you than the moza gs?
Better is relative and I'm not sure it's better as much as more suited for the formula driving. Especially when you consider the cost. However, the GS is great as well and far more refined. This wheel is in its infancy and has the potential to be really good but they have to iron out the screen and the data it presents. I'll be doing a Q/A tomorrow around 2:30pm EST. Hopefully people join the stream and I can answer any questions.
Thanks for the info Ray, great content
Thanks man. Always appreciated.