REVIEW - MOZA Racing FSR Formula Wheel
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To say I'm really excited to review this wheel would be an understatement, simply because a formula wheel with an integrated colour LCD dash is something we've been wanting to see from an OEM wheel base manufacturer (cough FANATEC cough) for so long.
It's not all good news though, so let's dive in and see how the Moza Racing FSR wheel stacks up!
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Intro: 00:00
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Wheel Hardware Overview: 4:00
Dash Hardware Overview: 13:40
Build Quality & Internals: 15:40
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#simracing #moza #steeringwheel - เกม
How is it possible MOZA can release a whole ecosystem of simracing gear in just 9 months, including 4 dd wheelbases, 4 steering wheels and 3 pedal sets, while we still waiting for Trustmaster's first dd wheelbase?
china
Or Fanatec, that releases to be out of stock forever. There are people builting their own direct drive faster than Fanatec.
and here comes logitech... hoping thrustmaster is planning something behind closed doors and that they'll come out with the big guns soon as well as competitive prices for us
Believe or not, china has really fast prototype their product than west manufacture. Example like Audiophile hobbies, almost entire range fullfilled by chinese brand compete with other brand
Another thing to bare in mind, fanatec would want demand to be high, so slowing down production keeps demand high and prices high, I think they like everyone else didn't expect for someone like moza to come so far so fast and be a direct competitor for them. I think fanatec all of a sudden will up production and prices will likely drop a bit aswell
Moza has been absolutely killing it! the competition in the sim community is at a all time high and i love it.
The R5 and the FSR wheel are two different classes or product. Fanatec also sell wheels that are more expensive than their entry level bases.
Looks a great product. Chewing the fat with you on this one, do you think the alpha for the Fanatec dashboard and mobile app is a prelude to a similar product or are they just testing for the Bentley wheel?
Not sure on that one. They’ve gone very quiet lately on the development front.
They won’t have to try too hard to beat FANATEC’s customer service 😆
Moza has yet to be proven. There’s a reason you see a lot of moza based on the buy/sell groups. People who use them really aren’t impressed. Just tried one and I’ll stick with other brands.
I gambled a bit on MOZA being newer to the sim racing community, i decided to build my setup around MOZA and honestly I couldn’t be happier, super stoked for this steering wheel because the down side of MOZA only their wheels work with the base. So great to see them adding to the lineup
My Cube Control wheel works on my R9. Yes, only Moza wireless wheels work with the base. But any plain wheel rim or USB wheel works with Moza bases as long as it has a QR that fits the hub.
This is a common misconception regarding the Moza ecosystem. They need to clear it up a whole lot more the more popular they become.
ANY USB wheel rim can connect to a Moza wheelbase with the NRG style quick connect, it just won't interface with the wheelbase via the bluetooth/software system.
All you need is a USB rim (even a DIY Arudino build will work) and it'll run on the Moza wheelbase.
@@tarushdei I went with MOZA with the understanding I could really only use MOZA wheels so, great information that definitely opens up tons of other options, and makes me feel even better about my choice. Thanks!
Thanks for all your work on the reviews. So in depth and amazing. From a newb these have all helped me tremendously. Appreciate all the info. Keep it up!
That is exactly what I wish Fanatec would make - would buy immediately if they made it a bit wider... its the right price point, decent quality and screen. The BMW rim is too expensive (for me) has no screen and not enugh buttons... This looks great!
Probably expensive due to BMW licencing.
dude what are you gonna do with a screen?! you look down at your steering wheel while sim racing?!?!
@@swapnilmankame licensing? lol the bmw wheel is CHEAP CHEAP for what it is. compare it to cheap sim racing wheels and maybe it looks expensive but compare it to other gt3 steering wheels.....
@@avgvstvs96 Info on the race, my car etc.. its not like Im the first on this mate..... In VR its all good with the actual in car view but for a number of cars the view with the correct fov either cuts off some of the dash or doesnt show any of it... or a steering wheel is in the way etc... You may not feel the need and thats fine but if other people want it and are willing to pay for it.... whats the harm ?
@@avgvstvs96
Moza is going all out with all these awesome new products covering all levels of players, love to see new companies joining the scene and spicing up the competition
I would have guessed 1000$ for this wheel I know 640 is a lot still but honestly looks like a decent deal imo.
Well, the added hardware for the screen etc is like $35 from amazon, so I am not that surprised, but I understand what you mean cause there are lots of companys that adds a high cost just cause you add a cheap LCD (which shows by the bad contrast)
I am all in on this!!! I think it's time to finally move on from ThrustMaster T300 and Ferrari F1 wheel. Love your reviews and thanks for the code!!!
Another fantastic review ! Your work is greatly appreciated 😎👍💯
Thanks Joshua.
Your reviews are always great! Keep up the good work. Can't wait for the gomez review
Unbelievable review mate as always. Best in the biz. 👍
Awesome looking piece of kit. If they can make the improvements that you mentioned then they could be building the foundations to a really great ecosystem. Thanks for another in-depth, informative video mate.
So i watched this video a year ago when it came out and in that time i just ordered th moza r16 and fsr wheel with the sim lab fp1 pedals 2 days ago. All your videos have been extremely helpful in every decision i made in building my rig and i couldn't appreciate it more.
How would you rate your experience with the R16 and FSR so far?? I've heard people say the feel of the FFB from the moza wheel bases to be a bit lacking compared to the fanatec
Love the dual radiator setup in the background with the Vardar fans. 😍
Was going to upgrade my fanatec setup but no way now, rather wait for Moza to get console compatibility. This wheel has everything you’d want and the price is relatively good
That’s the only thing stopping me from getting a moza is that there’s no console compatibility
@@partytime11 me too
definitely earned the affiliate kickback and thank you very much for helping out the community as always
I can't seem to get the code to work when I test it at checkout. Did it expire already?
Oh my, that is a sexy wheel. I hope Fanatec make something like. I am a console player (for now) but would love to buy just 1 wheel for a span of 5 years, this could be it. Fanatec, PLEASE!
Just got this wheel for my son. It’s a really really good wheel. Super impressed for the price.
Moza is killing it, wish Fanatec was coming out with stuff like this im just reluctant to spend any more money on wheels until QR2 is released aswell if it ever comes
Man at this point I’m not sure how anyone can honestly be behind Fanatec. As it stands if they don’t release something new soon they’re pretty screwed. They got overconfident and complacent and the market has caught and imo passed them.
Edit: this doesn’t include the argument of console compatibility
@@F1DrivingZombie Wouldnt surprise me that they spent a good chunk of money paying microsoft and sony for the console compatibility and so they dont have money to design new stuff at the moment.
Simagic is also releasing a very similar wheel called the FX Pro at the same time. How exciting!
Any idea on pricing? Simagic has always been significantly more expensive than Moza for (what appears to be) a marginal increase in quality. 😕
FX pro +-850
As a CSX2 user i have to say that price is really really fair! wow
I bought my Moza R9 and CS wheel a couple months back and I unknowingly used your code for a discount. I appreciated it as I am not a rich man, and that code tipped the scale to affordable. Thanks. Glad I found your channel.
USB compatible?!? That's a very nice feature as a Simucube 2 user. I'll consider this wheel for sure.
Eagerly waiting for the Gomez Wheel Review 🤟
Still concerned about the price point of their high end products. Can’t rationalize spending much for an R16 or R21 + for such a wheel vs a simucube + cube or ascher. The screen is missing though.
But thanks a lot for the reviews Will, always a pleasure to watch. Greetings from France !
Loving the pit garage look your going for !! Can’t wait to see that pc boot up ! 👏
Great review as always! Between this and the new simagic FX pro so many wheels to check out! (Although lack of compatibility with the simagic has me leaning more towards this)
What compatibility are you referring too.
Both can only be used on pc.
@@markandrews8835 between wheel bases, it's not clear whether the simagic can be connected via USB to PC atm
@@kerosinecircus263 the simagic wheel base connects via usb to pc.
Do you mean the fx-pro direct to pc via usb.
@@markandrews8835 apologies I mean using simagic FX pro on a non simagic wheelbase.
Yer I am in two minds about these screens they look cool but it could be distracting. Plus all the info is already available on the main screen.
Love what Moza are doing and with the release of their R5 bundle I’m sure companies like Thrustmaster are quietly trembling. While the Moza bases are extremely good value, I feel their wheels for the most part are too expensive and their needs to be more budget variations available. Their R9 is $699 AUD while the GS wheel is $799. If they had a $300 open wheel then you could get a R9 combo for $1000. This is the only thing stopping me at this point from selling all my Thrustmaster kit and moving over. I have a heavily customized TM open wheel so am waiting on their DD release to make my final decision. I’d love if TM could bring out a R9 and R16 counterpart as I could buy the base on its own and have a decent set up. If Moza had a GT wheel that was around half the price of the GS, I’d already be driving one.
mate I used to be in your position, holding on for months since Jan/Feb waiting for TM to release their DD base, I finally decided to fk it and sell all of it and went another route like VRS base, the difference is so big, I just wish I didnt do it sooner. Tbh if I was to start buying everything from the beginning, I would srsly consider Moza and Simagic, Will previously have a beef with simagic so he will no longer do a review for them so we wont get any more review for simagic but both QR for simagic + moza looks awesome. Plus Asetek will be releasing more wheel + base as well. What a time for sim racers worldwide, so many options :)
@@johnnynguyennn what was the beef about?
@@johnnynguyennn yeah I’m worried I’m
making the wrong call. One of the reasons is I just spent $50 on a Porsche sticker for my TM open wheel haha I’ve also bought a lot of gear very quickly.
I have decided to give TM till the end of the year and then I’ll probably buy a Moza R9 and some Sprints or VRS pedals.
@@rover1374 yeah I literally was quite deep in the TM eco system: SF1000 with the upgraded paddle shifters, T-LCM, TX-VW base and I decided just fk it. TBW, I currently have the VRS pedal is it is amazing. Many people said it is even better than the sprints, only problem is stock
@@demiquadfpv3333 it was between the marketing team, they wanted will to say certain info (more controlling over the review) which isn't really 100% honest review and more shit BTS :/
i had to unsub to all the sim racing stuff as I had to sell my rig when covid started for some extra cash... life is going again... I'm ready to go back in.. i miss my setup... and I'm hoping to get my rig going again by xmas... man I'm so glad to see you and your reviews bud ... so much new crazy stuff out in the last couple years to.,.. I'm excited for the future
I always love your reviews on Sim gear. Are you going to be getting the Fanatec BMW M4 GT3 wheel in for a review when it is available?
So incredibly happy with my Moza stuff. So high quality. If you harbour any doubts about Moza, you can stop. 10/10
Really digging this wheel, looking at buying the R9 with the oval rim. Seems like a great deal and I really want this wheel too haha. For some reason, if I add this wheel to the R9 + CS steering wheel in my cart, they want $160 just to ship the formula style rim.. Hopefully it's an error because this wheel looks way too nice not to have in my line up.
Can you adjust the dual-clutch bite point on the fly in-game like the Fanatec wheels, or is it just the slider in the software to adjust?
If you buy brake pads for yo-yos you can use them as rubber dampers for these wheels. I bought a pack of like 20 for 5$ and put a pair on my GS wheel the sound is significantly reduced and it has a shorter travel and less resistance. Just throwing that out there since the rubber dampers the wheel comes with are very small and don’t stick very well.
Can u share a link to what brak pads u got for it?
Just got into F1 sim racing and MOZA was the one I just bought and just now put in my order for this wheel.
Hi. Great video. Can you use the wheel with a Simucube 2 pro very easy with an adapter etc or is not compatible? Thanks
It's having a disccount on their official Taobao shop, I just got it at around 490 usd and it just arrived at my door, will try it out after work
Does the screen on the steering wheel show the same info as the Moza CM HD Racing Dash?
Whoa that wheel 😍🤩😳
This wheel looks like the Alfa Romeo/Sauber F1 steering wheel. It looks cool af ! I'd definetely buy it if i had the money
Hey and thanks for the Video .. work's the FSR Wheel on the R5 Wheelbase from Moza too ?
It's a shame there is no xbox and ps5 support with this set up looks great 👍 great review as usual 👍
Thanks for the review. Are they using genuine leather or vinyl?
Hi will, can you please let me know if the dash works with assetto corsa please as ive just bought the fsr rim. Thanks in advance matey... another informative vid by the way good work.
wait so they are making an adapter for the moza wheel to work w fanatec???
im amazed that not more companys has put a screen on the wheel. The added hardware cost is around $35 including a microcontroller fast enough to be able to play DOOM for example, and you also get wifi / bt builtin so you can send telemetry to the wheel without problems.
thats awesome men. also going for a upcoming upgrade, sth else?
This might be something for me in the future, the brand Moza with their bundles. Could be a good step up for me from my G920. Fanatecs are too expensive and always sold out
Great review Will. I got Moza early on before most reviews and can say they've been a great surprise. Although I am waiting for that GSI review and looking forward to their hyper wheel.
What would be a great review that I'd love to see. Simucube Pro 2 v R21. So I can justify my future upgrade and value prop. Thanks again.
I'm so glad fanatec is getting some competition
Man Moza is killing it right now. Their creating their own ecosystem and from what ive seen lately I may be switching from fanatec...
I had a dd1 broken last week. Bought r16 together with d shale wheel and i can say for most of the time , iam happier.
Please keep doing Moza R5/9/16/21 settings, i loved your F1 settings!
Will have an iRacing one up soon :)
@@boostedmedia Just what i was searching for, thank you very much!
I will be highly considering the Moza Racing Wheel but an extra $260 to ship to Australia is a bit steep
Can you use the Fanatec podium hub on this wheel as a stand alone wheel?. I haven't seen any info on it.
Your code doesn't work on the Moza site, has it changed?
Was the sim racing community clamoring for another expensive wheel? While competition is good, wth I'd like Moza to come out with a GT/formula wheel under $300 please.
... and I just watched your other review of the new Moza base and wheel. Holy hell Moza really bringing it!
Agree. They need some good $300 options for wheels.
Would like to get this for my simagic wheel base. But unsure if i should purchase the 50 or 70mm hub. Do you know?
Have you seen the ACC integration with the SF1000. They amount of information it displays on the screen is amazing
Unfortunately not. The product was in its infancy when we did the review a year or so ago and we only had it on loan. I need to get my hands on or again to see how it’s evolved since.
Hey Will, good review as always. Can you get your hands on a Simagic alpha mini? Would love to see the battle of the mainstream DD base/wheels. Alpha Mini vs Moza R9 vs CLS DD/GT Pro 8NM.
No sorry. We don’t cover Simagic here after past experiences dealing with them.
@@boostedmedia it is Moza then! 😁; my apologies if it is something you don't want to answer, but is that experience based on product quality or dubious business practices (like wanting editorial control, etc) or they simply not wanting to deal with you for some odd reason.
Will, you mentioned switching to leather for some of your wheels. Have you had any retrimmed to leather?
I got pineapple grips for a few of my Fanatec wheels and Asher sent me some leather grips for one of their wheels. Haven’t done custom retrim.
So you can use the moza fsr wheel on an fanatec wheelbase. But do you need to install an quickrelease of fanatec?
Correct. You’ll need a Fanatec hub and QR (or an emulator) to enable FFB on the Fanatec base. And the wheel will need to be connected via USB to the PC directly.
Have to say that if they create an LMP screen for this wheel and introduce a GT3 D style wheel... pretty solid chance I may abandon my Fanatec CSL DD setup. I DO like my Fanatec setup but there are behaviors that the company is doing I am not impressed with, combine with lack of options and in some cases extreme pricing. I'd really like the BMW GT3 wheel to go with my BMW Sim cockpit... but $1600 is insane. Moza should theoretically inspire competition in the wheel community, sadly i dont think that the competition is going to take it more seriously. MOZA has my attention for sure..
Just wondering how my R9 base would power the vertical pins. I only have this 3 contact patches horizontally. On the R5 base i see 5 contact patches
I was confused about that too but it works. I’m using it on an R9 in this video.
Any plans for Moza to expand to console? I did see a video awhile back, of an adapter that allows for console capabilities. Not sure how that's been going. Anybody have any experience with that?
Will you be reviewing Asetek La Prima bundle?
I know this might be sorta a lame question, but I can't find info on it yet. Does anyone know, based on the labels that come on the wheel, what the buttons are intended to be mapped too? I have no clue on some of them.
Fanatec needs to make a proper formula wheel thats affordable and has a screen like the sf1000 thrustmaster wheel
hey mate im pretty sure you used to work at gosford classic car museum and you interviewed me back in 2016. I dont know if i correct but you sound the same and look identical!
Haha yep that would have been me :)
Moza is catching fanatec really fast, and they don't have the fan base yet but their gear that's available almost seems better, especially since it's price is lower than fanatec, with the same quality. makes me almost regret my fanatec purchase a few months ago
When buying Moza you have to calculate import taxes and insane shipping prices (for some countries at least). I am waiting for fanatec to come in stock, so I checked out Moza to see if I should buy from them instead. 204€ for shipping + 25% VAT + 12% import tax + 20€ fee. This turns my 1000€ purchase into a 1705€ purchase.
I'll wait for Fanatec then. A 1000€ purchase these will only cost me 30€ shipping.
I can get Moza at local resellers though, but no stock and prices are not really better. So for us EU customers Fanatec is actually cheaper. No hidden costs.
@@jacoblarsen4633 yeah, in US the fees are non existent lol, just like 80 bucks shipping if you want it quick i think
this looks sick...
looking into getting an r5 but im curious if this wheel would work on that or if I would have to get something like the r9 for this to work
It will definitely work with a r5
Should make a adapter to reuse old phones as a display. Clip it in plug it in and drive. Is that not similar hardware on the board to the old I-phone?
I need to update my gear to soneting profecional, pecause my G923 ihave shifting problems that make me slow. what do you recomend me
great video, wish the discount code still worked!
So I can mount the Simagic quick release on this wheel?
I have this same steering wheel but the gears of my F1 do not change nor does it show me the car's information. Do I need to connect it to the game somehow?
I'm low level impressed. I looked at the price and it's about £700. It's peaked my interest. I was ready to bail after the price as wheels of this style can cost a lot more.
It is £579, VAT included, if you buy it from Abruzzi.
Hi, I love that flyer, but I have the DirectForce Pro VRS base. I know this steering wheel can be connected to the PC via USB port, but do you know exactly what I would need to use this steering wheel on my base?
Thank you very much in advance and I hope you can help me.
They’ve since released a USB interface box and hub adaptor you can use.
For someone who will race in vr, the screen isn't needed for me but I really prefer those leather grips, I just wished moza would release a GS wheel leather grips version like you have many different versions with the Rs wheel
Check out a company called Pineapple Grips ;)
@@boostedmedia I will watch some reviews, i just visited the website and looks awesome, thanks for the tip and the impact on the sim racing community, love from Portugal.
Will "Big Hands" Ford is at the town 😱
😅
would love to add this to my semucube 2 pro if possible...let us know any updates asap please
Moza-name says it all! Prava džiba
Hi will, im having issues with my order from mozaracing after using the affiliate link in your video. I bought it on the 5th of sept.
What issues are you having?
Do you think the RJ connector is strong enough for the USB connection option?
Will reserve comment on that until I have one to test.
I wonder if wheels like this will force fanatec to open their wheels for USB connection.
Anyone else feel Fanatec released the CSL DD only because Moza and Simagic came on the scene?? They have nothing left to compete!
A universal hub ($49) is now available for this wheel to use for any third party wheelbase.
The price is a bit high I think, it uses the same quality screen as the $35 VoCore 4.3" LCD you can add to any rig. I don't like that the display does not have SimHub support, the analog sticks to the left and right by your thumbs don't seem that useful to me. You need to buy a mount accessory to attach it to a non-Moza wheel, so add likely $50 there at $700. For that total price you could get a CSL DD base with a McLaren GT3 V2 and SimMakerZ carbon fiber paddle shifters, which will retain the analog clutch, and likely if you live in North America the shipping will be $50 just for the Moza wheel. Hopefully more players will enter the market to compete for better wheels that aren't so pricey, which like what happened last year with DD wheel bases.
Man i would that wheel to the simucube
Is the quick release bottom part plastic?
Would this work with Euro Truck Simulator too (including the display)? I play that + F1 games, please someone explain
No drink button?
You will not have the drink.
All eyes on Fanatec now…
When you need to use the analogue paddles as throttle and brake that 10mm throw is just not enough. Shame, I was very almost tempted to take a punt on one of these.
I think it would be enough for me but yeah, may not suit everyone. Other options have significantly more throw.
It's better the r5 bundle or the t300 with T-LCM pedals?
I'm using the R5 bundle with T-LCM pedals I bought for 200 over black Friday. Picked up the R5 bundle at Microcenter for 570 615 with sales tax. Was using a T-150 that I will still need to use with some games the Moza R5 isn't compatible with.
Someone help me out. For how much im on simracing games i feel like my Simucube 2 pro is overkill. i want to trade it or sell it would it be a good swap to a moza base and get 2 wheels street/formula style
Looks amazing!
that wheel looks as legit as can be.
How does this compare to the simagic fx-pro.
Moza is moving so much faster than Simagic!