ACC Spotlight: Is Louisville Ready for a Change of Scenery? Conference Realignment | Big 12
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- We continue our series going around the ACC to examine each school's perspective on realignment and where the think they'll end up if/when the conference does implode. With an unlikely candidate for either the SEC or Big 10, are they hoping the ACC can stick together, or are they looking for a change of scenery? Would they be happy to end up in the Big 12 if that becomes a reality?
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Do you think Louisville would be a better fit in the Big 12?
It almost seems if the ACC is going to exist, they need to invite West Virginia, UCF, or Cincy. Stanford and Cal teams are going to tire of the travel quick. Louisville fans seem realistic of their situation. I almost fell out of my chair listening to Va Tech fans thinking they could get into the Big 10 or SEC. It was like they had no clue how bad their viewership really was. Stadium fans are good, but they have no viewership.
Absolutely!
@@TheOracleOfTH-cam They have fifth of sixth in the ACC. That's not bad. It's not amazing either but they play a lot of ACCN games lately, which is hurting the average as those are generally averaged as zeros. Recall who they are playing now, in the ACC, and who they would play in the B1G or SEC though. OSU vs. VT, I can tell you right now, for certain, would do better than OSU vs. any other B1G team except USC/Oregon/Michigan/PSU and maybe a couple of others (Nebraska/Wiscy?).
WVU fan here. I believe our fans would love to play Louis ville annually. However it’s all about the national metrics of viewers since TV brings $.
@@TheOracleOfTH-camDo believe any of your invites would leave the Big 12 with a brand new tv contract and come to the acc?
Trevor I had a blast coming on the show and talking conference realignment with you man! Keep up the great work and thanks to all who tuned in!
Thanks for coming on. We'll do it again some time.
Look up the INCOME of the Power 5... not just the REVENUE.
You are MISSING the BIGGEST STORY of your LIFE by not knowing that 1 detail.
That 1 detail SHOULD lead you to question WHY those 2 numbers have such a HUGE GAP in them for ONLY the ACC and that MIGHT just lead you to know what you are talking about when it comes to the ACC's TRUE position.
Currently, you have Questions and Concerns because you are not dealing with KEY FACTS
Thank for having us! We enjoyed taking how all this affects Louisville.
Thank you. It was fun!
Look up the INCOME of the Power 5... not just the REVENUE.
You are MISSING the BIGGEST STORY of your LIFE by not knowing that 1 detail.
That 1 detail SHOULD lead you to question WHY those 2 numbers have such a HUGE GAP in them for ONLY the ACC and that MIGHT just lead you to know what you are talking about when it comes to the ACC's TRUE position.
Currently, you have Questions and Concerns because you are not dealing with KEY FACTS
Hope you do a sit down for a Syracuse show. Suggestion: Brent Axe & Emily Leiker. As a long-time SU fan, this is all so disheartening. We’re FINALLY getting our act together with some major facility upgrades, and a new HC, who’s the top recruiter in the country, who’s pulling in top recruits, and overhauling the program in solid ways. I’m excited for this upcoming season in a way I haven’t been in over 20 years. But even if we have a stellar turnaround, are we too late? Everybody’s already made up their minds about us. 😢
Timing is everything, and it sucks for a lot of fan bases. I'd love to do a Syracuse episode, so thank you for the recommendation. I'll hit them up.
Within the last 6 months it's a known fact that both Virginia Tech & NC State have both reached out to the Big 12 in case they need a home. As a K-State Alum, Louisville would definitely a great fit in the Big 12 culture.
They seem like a shoo-in.
Louisville would be a great B12 add
Trevor, you are absolutely killing it brother! Great to see my friends from The Third Banner Pod on your show. It's been a College Huddle takeover this summer!
Thank you! I've loved having guests on and getting to know other schools better.
Look up the INCOME of the Power 5... not just the REVENUE.
You are MISSING the BIGGEST STORY of your LIFE by not knowing that 1 detail.
That 1 detail SHOULD lead you to question WHY those 2 numbers have such a HUGE GAP in them for ONLY the ACC and that MIGHT just lead you to know what you are talking about when it comes to the ACC's TRUE position.
Currently, you have Questions and Concerns because you are not dealing with KEY FACTS
L'VILLE is in a tough situation. Unlikely to land in the SEC or B1G due to their respective preferences. If 2nd tier flight risks (e.g. VATECH and NCSTATE) remain, it's unlikely the ACC loses any schools to the BIG12. If the ACC heavily depletes out to the SEC/B1G, it likely doesn't matter what the P5 remainders do.
It was reported that L'VILLE was among the strongest supporters of adding CAL+2, and these decisions are made by the Presidents. This suggests that L'VILLE prefers a viable Tier 2 ACC over the already Tier 2 B12. If the ACC's rebuild strategy is remaining academically branded, it may release L'VILLE on favorable terms.
Great point about Louisville being a big advocate of adding the the western schools, so that probably is their preference. Which is weird that they were talked about as possibly joining the Magnificent 7. Maybe those were just rumors though.
@@saturdayswarriorbyu No. Lousiville joined the 7 as #8 the night before the ACC had a Membership Meeting. The 7 fell apart at that meeting because of what the ACC told them. But the DUMB NARRATIVE that the ACC could DISSOLVE has remained among fools that don;t know what the ACC schools (and I) know based on that meeting.
The B1G and the SEC will not cut anyone from the conference unless they violate the bylaws. I have said that Charlie Baker had the right idea on creating a new subdivision. The B1G and the SEC move up to the new subdivision as whole conferences. That way they don't break apart their Grant of Rights. As for Louisville, they would be a great fit in the Big 12. They are pretty much the #1 expansion target of the Big 12.
Those conferences are Angels.
Half (if not more) of the Big 10 does not deserve to be at a higher subdivision of football. And I don't think Louisville is the lone to target of Big 12 expansion. But they'd definitely be a good fit.
@@saturdayswarriorbyu It truly doesn't matter if they deserve it or not. This is all based upon money. Which has been the source of all this realignment foolishness. If a school can pay the tab to move up, they will so they can make more money. If they can't, they won't. Financial viability of being able to pay for NIL will determine who can move up.
SEC does not have a Grant of Rights
I guess to talk about a super league is fun. Just NEVER going to happen. Sankey said as much. Do you think the Power 2 wants to slit up any of their money to lesser schools? I'm sure they are thinking about how to trim the fat they already have. Vandy, Northwestern, Purdue, etc.. The SEC has a strong loyalty to Vandy, for some reason. They maybe fine.
What you described is much more likely to happen, but in the super conference plan, they said that it would be merit based compensation. Which means the top brands would make similar to what they make now. It's the Vandys and Northwesterns that would be taking big hits financially. Still not happening, but it makes it a little more realistic.
@@saturdayswarriorbyu Btw, I'm sure it seems weird that an Auburn fan would care anything about BYU. However, years ago i randomly picked BYU in dynasty mode of NCAA football game. Won several national titles with them. They became my adopted team on NCAA football Dynasty Mode. Love the plainness of them. Not a fan, but do check in on them occasionally.
The Big 10 will NEVER cut schools from their LEAGUE.....I don't think The B1G gives a damn what Skankey thinks or says or wants....The Severely Educationally Challenged will have to play the game to expand to a LEAGUE format WHEN The B1G LEAGUE comes into existence. Which would bring back a lot of historic, traditional rivalries and more importantly, "Regionality" again. Then you end up after LEAGUE Playoff to the National Championship Bowl between the TWO LEAGUES.
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@@josephcernansky1794 Well, that was a whole bunch of nothing...
I agree that UL was never really embraced by the ACC Ole Guard. Didnt Mitch McConnell have to flex his muscle to get Louisville in the ACC? Maybe theres some lingering grudges ??
Yeah, he did. No idea why it is. Would be interesting to investigate.
Still listening to the podcast at the moment. I really like UL as a conference member, they'd solidly be in my ACC breakaway conference if FSU and Clemson decided to go that route. You can check my numbers, but I think UL pulls better ratings than UNC. 1 FSU, 2 Clem, 3 UM, 4 UL, 5 UNC.
UNC isn't 5th in the ACC....they are 7th, behind VA Tech.
#11 Clemson; #14 FSU; #26 Miami; #31 Louisville; #33 Stanford; #39 VA Tech; #40 UNC; #42 NC State; #47 Pitt; #52 GA Tech; #53 Syracuse; #57 California; #60 UVA; #62 Duke; #63 Wake Forest; #67 Boston College; #70 SMU
Impressive!
UL doesn't have the swagger to muscle UK into the SEC, nor the academics for the B1G
B12 .. it's the obvious answer
Louisville just stopped by the ACC for a quick minute. Now they are off to somewhere else !
If a super league in the near future is formed, I propose each division have a 2 or 3 teams with the lowest win percentage be regulated to a lower conference for that division simular to the English Premier League. That way schools who were left out can be elevated to the upper divisions.
70+ team Superleague is not happening.
@@christopherhooter1937 Never, Ever say Nerver
@williewilson972 fair enough but ... we've been heading for consolidation since 1990, and now we are left w a Power 2. Those $forces$ are just going away, and we'll unconsolodate to some $unsustainable$ nostalgic $structure$ w everyone all kumbaya again?? Not w the current economics. It a cute little yesteryear thought experiment, but it's got no chance
It's fun in theory, and I love the level of competition it would create, but logistically difficult in college athletics. Plus, when we all complain about losing rivalries, then this would only exasperate it.
I did not like when the old SWC went away leaving TCU, Rice, SMU and Houston out of the Big XII. I hate even more that we don't have a PAC XII to root for now. The Big East isn't the Big East I grew up watching. Now there are rumors that the ACC may be broken up or just go away all together. The one thing that all those Conference deaths had in common was more money. I don't want a super league. But after watching this for five decades. I've learned that change comes eventually. Weather we like it or not.
The idea of a Super League is an idea that’s dead except for schools with an uncertain future. Reality please.
Right, we acknowledged that as we began discussing it. But it was real enough to discipline. Be reported on, so we're discussing it.
Louisville will, if it gets to that point, decide whether the ACC survives or implodes.
Louisville is not a target of the Big Ten or SEC, but is probably highly targeted by the Big 12. After the defections leave, the remaining members have to decide if their future is better in the ACC or the Big 12. The new TV contract will play a big role.
No, I suspect that the future Tier 2 ACC will consider L'VILLE wanted but not needed. VATECH, NCSTATE, MIAMI & PITT are more determinative.
Ty, I guarantee you that Notre Dame would much prefer to be in a conference with Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Boston College, Rutgers, and even Cincinnati than to be in any conference with Michigan in it. How much do you know about Notre Dame? Are you aware that there is one and only one reason why Notre Dame is not now a member of the B1G? That reason is: Michigan. Go back and read your history books!
I made the divisions as historically accurate as possible.
Long time ago
Any school that joins the 12 is openly admitting their brand doesn't matter!!! How do we know the 12 brands are worthless??? Because after Texas and Oklahoma left, the BIG and SEC would not pick up the phone from any 12 school. Utah, Arizona and ASU have spoke openly about what a disgrace it is to be in the 12.
It would be better to remain in the ACC if not picked up by the BIG and SEC. You are known by the company you keep and being associated with Stanford and Cal Berkeley then Cincinnati, West Virginia and the likes of Baylor
That sounds a lot like Pac 12 fans - oh wait, those don't exist anymore. Have fun playing meaningless, boring football. It won't make Louisville a more prestigious school.
@saturdayswarriorbyu I really don't have a dog in this fight. Just stated what members of the 12 openly stated. Ohio State will always be a have and there is nothing anybody can do about that!!! If we are honest, there are only like 10 schools that really matter!!! You are talking about hopefully getting in the conference of misfit brands
You're full of shit
@@saturdayswarriorbyu So Tier 2 football will be boring and meaningless? How does BYU feel about that?
100% disagree. The B12 is a far more stable league, w a positive vibe and a great commish, compared to the brutally unstable tobacco row dominated sue everyone to keep the band together ACC