Hi Ken: Thanks for doing this - well put together, and very informative. We (Knox United Church, Parksville, BC) installed a live streaming configuration in March of this year, and we had some of the same considerations that you had - space constraints and integrating an existing audio system. We decided on a configuration which includes 2XPTZ/NDI cameras and OBS software, and this has been working well for us. Cheers. . .
I started lives streaming using Vmix software (Similar to OBS) but the laptop didn't have the power to deal with multiple inputs and I did not think the volunteers would be able to deal with the software issues if they came up. Going to the ATEM Mini allows up use hardware to stream instead of software. Very easy and easy to teach helpers.
Good job. I upgraded my setup to the Extreme ISO a year ago. The dual USB ports allow recording even while doing Zoom meetings and it records all of the inputs separately so you can post edit all of your cuts. I would like to see more. Please keep posting😊
shortly after this video the extreme came out and we upgraded to the extreme. I did not go with the iso since I don't expect us to edit after the fact. But the dual HDMI outputs and the dual USB C allow us to record and use it for webcam in WEBEX for voters meetings. Then we have one of the HDMI outputs for the multicam and the other goes to our fellowship hall for the cry room I hope to do a video on this setup soon.
A new video is out talking about upgrades to the hardware in this video. I promised to do this in several comments below. Well it is done and can be found here th-cam.com/video/C66CV0LTQMw/w-d-xo.html. Please watch this video first as I don't go into some of the hardware that we did not change. Thanks for your continued questions.
Glad it was helpful! new video coming soon with a few more upgrades we needed do to requirements ask for by our council. And we are very happy with them.
Great overview. We recently inherited an ATEM mini-pro Avipas 3104-S & Avipas 1280 PTZ. Got it working, to steam to FB Live.... but with only one PTZ, it is a bit clumsy panning from the altar, back to the choir. The Avipas 3104-Serial has PRESETs, but I can't find detailed instructions on how to configure. I would like to setup a pre-set to point/zoom/pan at the Altar, and another pre-set to point/zoom/pan toward at the choir area. That would be a lot easier then using the joystick. Appreciate any advice/tips. Eventually, we'll have budget $$ for a second PTZ (to replace our second Avipas 1280 that suddenly failed w/ no video out, and doesn't pass self test)
Nice that you inherited all of that hardware. I am assuming then that the ATEM Mini Pro has the SDI inputs also since the 1280 has SDI outputs. I went with the HDMI for the simple fact that anything with HDMI outputs like Laptop, camcorder, etc can be used as an input device. You will need some HDMI-SDI converters to connect a laptop or camcorder to it if you want the video. The 3104-S controller is controlling the PTZ camera via serial cable. This is simple but requires a second line separate the SDI cable as far as I know. Can’t help much more than that since I have never used either of those two connections. I can tell you that the AVIPAS support is great, and you can see my questions and answers in the AV1281 chat area. Presets are really great to have and that is what we have set up for both cameras. Combined with very detailed step by step instructions for our volunteers allows me to step away from the booth. Sorry I cannot help you more but go to the AVIPAS website and contact their support. You should also be able to find what you are looking for, especially with the controller, on TH-cam if you search for that controller specifically. Good luck Ken
Hi ken: Excellent video! Can you please describe or send pictures of the inclined mount you made for the ATEM? Especially how it routes the HDMI cables.
The ramp for the ATEM is just an old piece of 1/4 plywood with a cutout to fit the ATEM and 2 pieces of shelving I used for the monitors and wireless receivers to sit on. I then cut the side boards at about a 30 degree angle and left the back open for the cables to come out behind the ATEM. Dimensions of the plywood top is 10 3/4 wide by 9 high. The inside dimensions for the ATEM MINI or MINI Pro to fit inside, start with about 9 1/8 wide by 3 7/8 high. you may have to sand it a little bigger but by working it like that you will get the best fit so it fits in but the lip of the ATEM has the most wood to sit on. You can also buy a stand already made on ebay.
Thank you for this video and related content Ken. I am new, volunteering for my church (who is struggling big time with streaming). I know very little about the streaming environment but we have no one else to lead this effort. Your video is very helpful. The pastor and worship leader are familiar with ProPresenter so we have a stake in the ground for that one item :) Two questions: do you use ProPresenter or a like product, and if yes, what do you use for a PC (i.e. cpu, graphics, etc.)? and #2, have you settled on the upgrades you mentioned in the video?
Sorry I need to be better at checking this for comments. if you watch any of our more recent service videos you will see us using Picture in picture to add the text while keeping the pastor in the screen. We do this so that the person watching still feels a part of the service. This is also why we use the external/ambient mic. This is being done in PowerPoint at this time as we are not sure if we want to make the huge jump to pro-presenter with their subscription pricing. We added an older Dell laptop that is just doing the PPT slides and then treats the ATEM as the presentation monitor. The volunteer who builds the slides for the each Sunday then adds presenter notes so any of our 3 volunteers working the AV that Sunday knows which slides to turn on and off the PIP. Upgrades have been done and I have not had the time to put together a video than I am willing to post. My full time job is not giving me the time to put it together to my satisfaction. Upgrades include that second PPT laptop, an ATEM Mini Extreme which is the most valuable upgrade giving us 2 USB-C outputs, 2 HDMI outputs and a Headphone output. Those 3 things were crucial upgrades to the ATEM and really improved our livestream. We also add a 3rd laptop as needed for a WebEx Hybrid church voter's meeting and a DVD/BlueRay player since we have the extra inputs with the Extreme.
Do you have a wiring diagram of your system? That would be very helpful. Where does the IP video get extracted / converted to HDMI? Great video. It's been very helpful
I don't have a diagram. The ATEM makes inputs pretty easy with the HDMI inputs directly on the back of the ATEM Mini Pro or now we use the ATEM Mini Extreme. The cameras both have HDMI out. The one closest to the AV Booth is direct HDMI from the camera to the ATEM. the other camera across the church is run through an HDMI to Ethernet extender which has a conversion box on each end and HDMI on each end. So also HDMI from the extender receiver to the ATEM. As shown in the video I can also connect anything with HDMI out directly into the ATEM so we being video from a laptop into the ATEM also via HDMI which then acts as another monitor for Power Point for example. Hope that helps.
Hi, Thank you for sharing your set up, which offers a good learning tool. How do you capture people singing where they have no microphone - is this what the small condensor microphone does too ? Regards, Stuart Mackie.
The hardest thing for me is the children's services where they are talking. I can't get them to talk loud enough ever. The condenser mic works really well for capturing the congregation singing. It is the only mic doing that. Also it captures pastor's voice to give the audio the "big room" sound. It has also saved us when his mic battery fails or there is a momentary loss of signal from his cordless mic. I am looking at a stand mic for the choir that will also go through the audio panel but that condenser mic does the trick in our small church for now.
Via HDMI. At our church we use SDI output over RG6 cable then into a Blackmagic SDI to HDMI micro converter. HDMI has a length limit. Under 50 ft. HDMI OK, over that some use an HDMI fiber optic cable that allows 300 ft. SDI over RG6 also good for that 300 ft. RG6 is that cable you often see being wrangled lineside at football games for the camera operator. RG6 is tough and basically bulletproof for signal transmission.
@@firstenglishlutheranchurch546 You are correct it is just HDMI. We actually just use HDMI over ethernet extenders so that we did not have to go the SDI mode. it works very well as long as we used good quality HDMI and ethernet cables.
The PTZ cameras have HDMI outputs so the one right above the booth is a direct HDMI connection. The one on the other side of the church is HDMI frin the camera to a HDMI to ethernet extender then back to HDMI to the ATEM. Works very well.
Additionally, I took a look at your Sunday videos and I noticed you are able to show bible verses alongside your camera feed. Are you using any additional software to do that?
We are currently using power point on a second computer for the text. This is coming into the ATEM mini using HDMI into the 4th input. All you need is a laptop with HDMI out and that becomes a second monitor so when you go to slide show it becomes the main view and the presenter view is still on the laptop. This actually allows the person setting up the presentation to leave notes to the Sunday volunteer as to what view and camera to use with the Picture in picture.
@@Lotchik_Fishing to make you thinks a little easier on that same computer you can use one of the free presenters such as worship extreme, OpenLP, VideoPsalms, etc. we use worship extreme and it does all that for you all you need to do setup a second monitor. You can always use TH-cam to learn how use them. Using one of them made my life some much easier.
@@bernettaparker3739 I have been looking at the subscription presentation software like ProPresenter and Proclaim and the cost is really holding me back. We are also not quite ready to need that kind of power. PPT is working well for us since we are using it only with the livestream with the picture in picture feature. I will check out these free presenters. Thank you for the advice.
Hello, Great Set Up You Have There, I Have A Question , Can You Tell Me How Was Able To Connect The SSD and Use The Controller Software For The Atem Mini, I Being Trying To Do That, I Use A Splitter But Is Not Working For Me, going Out Grom USB-c , Please help
@@erickdedios203 splitter not going work in usb c. You either have use that as webcam or plug your sd card unless you have an atem mini iso or atem mini extreme iso where you have 2 usb c outs.
Do y’all have the output going out into tvs/projectors for the in person congregates or showing in another part of the church if so how did setup it up with the atem. I’m having issue figure out how that output going to com out if a monitor is in the hdmi out which showing multiview. I need that multiview active for sure as of now we have splitter coming out the hdmi out on the atem to show output. I bought an atem streaming bridge to have output and multiview. I’m getting close to figuring it out.
I have a new video coming out soon. Just recorded it and want to do a little editing first. The fix was getting the ATEM Mini Extreme. The extreme has 2 HDMI outputs one I use for the multiview and the second I use with a splitter to go down to the fellowship hall for use as a cry room or just in case some one isn't feeling well and wants to get away from the others in the pew. ( I actually did that last weekend when I got a coughing attack and had to get out of the sanctuary during the sermon) the other half of the splitter is available to go to the front screens when/if we ever get those installed. The Extreme also has 2 USB-C outputs I use to record to the SSD and also use in Webex during our voters meetings. This allows for those that work weekends (like me) to attend live and vote on church business. Lastly it has a headphone jack to monitor the audio going to the program out. These 3 additions sold me on the higher price and there are several nice features in addition that I am still looking at. Check out one of our live streams to see how our output looks. Thanks for the questions and good luck. Feel free to stay in touch.
The first question I would ask - does your AVIPAS PTZ have HDMI out or SDI or something else. I went with HDMI out because of the HDMI inputs on the ATEM. When we started we had a single camcorder running HDMI to the ATEM mini Pro. Then I added the first PTZ and I went with the AVIPAS AV 1281 HDMI camera for the other side of the church. At that time we used the remote that came with the camera and had presets for different locations, center alter, pulpit, etc. Eventually we sprung for a second 1281 PTZ and the AVIPAS AV-3104IP 4D Joystick PTZ Controller. The controller works through our network and we have presets for both cameras. The ATEM Mini extreme followed and was the perfect upgrade to meet our needs. When setting it all up with the cameras, I initially tested each camera directly to the ATEM so I knew they worked. Then I connected it on the other side of the church using HDMI to Ethernet extenders due to the distance. Then the problems began. I thought it was the extender that was causing the issue. Not so. It turned out I was using cheap HDMI cables at one or both ends of the extension. When I upgraded to much better 4k cables I suddenly had rock steady video coming in from the cameras. The cheap cables work fine from the laptop to the ATEM for PPT but the video inputs needed the better cables to be reliable. Hope that helps. Ken
Find an older GO PRO or small camcorder. As long as they have HDMI out you can set it up. IF you want it for the drummer the GO-Pro as a nice wide angle so I imagine you can have it fairly close and get his movements.
The ATEM is connected to the ethernet switch. This allows the computer to connect to the ATEM via the ethernet for managing the livestream and monitor the audio inputs. The ATEM then connects to our TH-cam channel directly so the computer is not tied up with any of that. Takes the pressure off the laptop and allows for a less powerful system.
@@Lotchik_Fishing thank you for the reply. I have a problem in that my setup has to be mobile so I connect via a dedicated hotspot through my computer. My question is can I connect to the atem directly through ethernet or ethernet switch and still have functionality by connecting to the internet through the computer?
@@phoenixdragon5154 If you are using OBS or VMix or other software for streaming then use the usb-c output from the ATEM into the computer. OBS/VMix or other streaming software will take this as a webcam input and you are set. When you use the usb-c connection you can also control the ATEM while it is treated as the webcam. You can also use the ethernet hub/switch for control of cameras or use a camera controller etc, and still use the usb-c output as the webcam for your streaming software which then would go through your hotspot. I am not sure if the ATEM can be connected to the hotspot since I have not tried it. I believe that it can but don't quote me on that one.
@@phoenixdragon5154 we use hotspot for atem because church is in a rural area with no ISP internet. Depends what kind of hotspot you have. If you using a phone hot stop you will have purchase an adapt for your phone that has Ethernet ability on one end and plus in the Ethernet into the atem. Now if you have actual hotspot it should have Ethernet slots on there just put one end of the Ethernet in the hotspot and other in the atem. Hotspot is what we using and hadn’t had an issue so far, but connect everything to a Ethernet Network Switch/Hub. Hope this helps. Good luck.
Thanks for that input. I heard you can do that with the ATEM but have not needed to try it. I am working a personal project using my ATEM mini pro, and portability will be the key. that may be something I dig deeper into.
This was an absolutely fantastic video explaining how the ATEM works and how it gets all connected. You are a great teacher! Thank you so much!
Thank you. Check out my updated video I posted a month ago. We upgraded to the ATEM mini Extreme and it is even better and more flexible.
Thank you so much for sharing the real work experience, it's really helpful, as you have a good solution
You're welcome. and glad you find it useful.
Thanks for posting this video. I like the woodworking project for the ATEM mini that hides the HDMI cables, very cool!😀
That was much cheaper than the buying one of the fancy ATEM stands. 😀
Hi Ken: Thanks for doing this - well put together, and very informative. We (Knox United Church, Parksville, BC) installed a live streaming configuration in March of this year, and we had some of the same considerations that you had - space constraints and integrating an existing audio system. We decided on a configuration which includes 2XPTZ/NDI cameras and OBS software, and this has been working well for us.
Cheers. . .
I started lives streaming using Vmix software (Similar to OBS) but the laptop didn't have the power to deal with multiple inputs and I did not think the volunteers would be able to deal with the software issues if they came up. Going to the ATEM Mini allows up use hardware to stream instead of software. Very easy and easy to teach helpers.
Good job. I upgraded my setup to the Extreme ISO a year ago. The dual USB ports allow recording even while doing Zoom meetings and it records all of the inputs separately so you can post edit all of your cuts. I would like to see more. Please keep posting😊
shortly after this video the extreme came out and we upgraded to the extreme. I did not go with the iso since I don't expect us to edit after the fact. But the dual HDMI outputs and the dual USB C allow us to record and use it for webcam in WEBEX for voters meetings. Then we have one of the HDMI outputs for the multicam and the other goes to our fellowship hall for the cry room I hope to do a video on this setup soon.
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A new video is out talking about upgrades to the hardware in this video. I promised to do this in several comments below. Well it is done and can be found here th-cam.com/video/C66CV0LTQMw/w-d-xo.html. Please watch this video first as I don't go into some of the hardware that we did not change. Thanks for your continued questions.
Thanks great guidance
Glad it was helpful! new video coming soon with a few more upgrades we needed do to requirements ask for by our council. And we are very happy with them.
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thanks. Hope to have an updated video soon as we upgraded to an ATEM mini Extreme. And very happy we did.
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Great overview. We recently inherited an ATEM mini-pro Avipas 3104-S & Avipas 1280 PTZ. Got it working, to steam to FB Live.... but with only one PTZ, it is a bit clumsy panning from the altar, back to the choir. The Avipas 3104-Serial has PRESETs, but I can't find detailed instructions on how to configure. I would like to setup a pre-set to point/zoom/pan at the Altar, and another pre-set to point/zoom/pan toward at the choir area. That would be a lot easier then using the joystick. Appreciate any advice/tips.
Eventually, we'll have budget $$ for a second PTZ (to replace our second Avipas 1280 that suddenly failed w/ no video out, and doesn't pass self test)
Nice that you inherited all of that hardware. I am assuming then that the ATEM Mini Pro has the SDI inputs also since the 1280 has SDI outputs. I went with the HDMI for the simple fact that anything with HDMI outputs like Laptop, camcorder, etc can be used as an input device. You will need some HDMI-SDI converters to connect a laptop or camcorder to it if you want the video. The 3104-S controller is controlling the PTZ camera via serial cable. This is simple but requires a second line separate the SDI cable as far as I know. Can’t help much more than that since I have never used either of those two connections. I can tell you that the AVIPAS support is great, and you can see my questions and answers in the AV1281 chat area. Presets are really great to have and that is what we have set up for both cameras. Combined with very detailed step by step instructions for our volunteers allows me to step away from the booth. Sorry I cannot help you more but go to the AVIPAS website and contact their support. You should also be able to find what you are looking for, especially with the controller, on TH-cam if you search for that controller specifically. Good luck
Ken
Hi ken: Excellent video! Can you please describe or send pictures of the inclined mount you made for the ATEM? Especially how it routes the HDMI cables.
The ramp for the ATEM is just an old piece of 1/4 plywood with a cutout to fit the ATEM and 2 pieces of shelving I used for the monitors and wireless receivers to sit on. I then cut the side boards at about a 30 degree angle and left the back open for the cables to come out behind the ATEM. Dimensions of the plywood top is 10 3/4 wide by 9 high. The inside dimensions for the ATEM MINI or MINI Pro to fit inside, start with about 9 1/8 wide by 3 7/8 high. you may have to sand it a little bigger but by working it like that you will get the best fit so it fits in but the lip of the ATEM has the most wood to sit on. You can also buy a stand already made on ebay.
Thank you for this video and related content Ken. I am new, volunteering for my church (who is struggling big time with streaming). I know very little about the streaming environment but we have no one else to lead this effort. Your video is very helpful. The pastor and worship leader are familiar with ProPresenter so we have a stake in the ground for that one item :) Two questions: do you use ProPresenter or a like product, and if yes, what do you use for a PC (i.e. cpu, graphics, etc.)? and #2, have you settled on the upgrades you mentioned in the video?
Sorry I need to be better at checking this for comments. if you watch any of our more recent service videos you will see us using Picture in picture to add the text while keeping the pastor in the screen. We do this so that the person watching still feels a part of the service. This is also why we use the external/ambient mic. This is being done in PowerPoint at this time as we are not sure if we want to make the huge jump to pro-presenter with their subscription pricing. We added an older Dell laptop that is just doing the PPT slides and then treats the ATEM as the presentation monitor. The volunteer who builds the slides for the each Sunday then adds presenter notes so any of our 3 volunteers working the AV that Sunday knows which slides to turn on and off the PIP. Upgrades have been done and I have not had the time to put together a video than I am willing to post. My full time job is not giving me the time to put it together to my satisfaction. Upgrades include that second PPT laptop, an ATEM Mini Extreme which is the most valuable upgrade giving us 2 USB-C outputs, 2 HDMI outputs and a Headphone output. Those 3 things were crucial upgrades to the ATEM and really improved our livestream. We also add a 3rd laptop as needed for a WebEx Hybrid church voter's meeting and a DVD/BlueRay player since we have the extra inputs with the Extreme.
Do you have a wiring diagram of your system? That would be very helpful. Where does the IP video get extracted / converted to HDMI? Great video. It's been very helpful
I don't have a diagram. The ATEM makes inputs pretty easy with the HDMI inputs directly on the back of the ATEM Mini Pro or now we use the ATEM Mini Extreme. The cameras both have HDMI out. The one closest to the AV Booth is direct HDMI from the camera to the ATEM. the other camera across the church is run through an HDMI to Ethernet extender which has a conversion box on each end and HDMI on each end. So also HDMI from the extender receiver to the ATEM. As shown in the video I can also connect anything with HDMI out directly into the ATEM so we being video from a laptop into the ATEM also via HDMI which then acts as another monitor for Power Point for example. Hope that helps.
@@christmerrill Thanks. Your response answered what I needed. Best of Luck!
Hi, Thank you for sharing your set up, which offers a good learning tool. How do you capture people singing where they have no microphone - is this what the small condensor microphone does too ? Regards, Stuart Mackie.
The hardest thing for me is the children's services where they are talking. I can't get them to talk loud enough ever. The condenser mic works really well for capturing the congregation singing. It is the only mic doing that. Also it captures pastor's voice to give the audio the "big room" sound. It has also saved us when his mic battery fails or there is a momentary loss of signal from his cordless mic. I am looking at a stand mic for the choir that will also go through the audio panel but that condenser mic does the trick in our small church for now.
.This is great. Thanks for the information. How do the PTZ cameras input into the ATEM mini?
Via HDMI. At our church we use SDI output over RG6 cable then into a Blackmagic SDI to HDMI micro converter. HDMI has a length limit. Under 50 ft. HDMI OK, over that some use an HDMI fiber optic cable that allows 300 ft. SDI over RG6 also good for that 300 ft. RG6 is that cable you often see being wrangled lineside at football games for the camera operator. RG6 is tough and basically bulletproof for signal transmission.
@@firstenglishlutheranchurch546 You are correct it is just HDMI. We actually just use HDMI over ethernet extenders so that we did not have to go the SDI mode. it works very well as long as we used good quality HDMI and ethernet cables.
The PTZ cameras have HDMI outputs so the one right above the booth is a direct HDMI connection. The one on the other side of the church is HDMI frin the camera to a HDMI to ethernet extender then back to HDMI to the ATEM. Works very well.
Additionally, I took a look at your Sunday videos and I noticed you are able to show bible verses alongside your camera feed. Are you using any additional software to do that?
We are currently using power point on a second computer for the text. This is coming into the ATEM mini using HDMI into the 4th input. All you need is a laptop with HDMI out and that becomes a second monitor so when you go to slide show it becomes the main view and the presenter view is still on the laptop. This actually allows the person setting up the presentation to leave notes to the Sunday volunteer as to what view and camera to use with the Picture in picture.
@@Lotchik_Fishing to make you thinks a little easier on that same computer you can use one of the free presenters such as worship extreme, OpenLP, VideoPsalms, etc. we use worship extreme and it does all that for you all you need to do setup a second monitor. You can always use TH-cam to learn how use them. Using one of them made my life some much easier.
@@bernettaparker3739 I have been looking at the subscription presentation software like ProPresenter and Proclaim and the cost is really holding me back. We are also not quite ready to need that kind of power. PPT is working well for us since we are using it only with the livestream with the picture in picture feature. I will check out these free presenters. Thank you for the advice.
Hello, Great Set Up You Have There, I Have A Question , Can You Tell Me How Was Able To Connect The SSD and Use The Controller Software For The Atem Mini, I Being Trying To Do That, I Use A Splitter But Is Not Working For Me, going Out Grom USB-c , Please help
@@erickdedios203 splitter not going work in usb c. You either have use that as webcam or plug your sd card unless you have an atem mini iso or atem mini extreme iso where you have 2 usb c outs.
Do y’all have the output going out into tvs/projectors for the in person congregates or showing in another part of the church if so how did setup it up with the atem. I’m having issue figure out how that output going to com out if a monitor is in the hdmi out which showing multiview. I need that multiview active for sure as of now we have splitter coming out the hdmi out on the atem to show output. I bought an atem streaming bridge to have output and multiview. I’m getting close to figuring it out.
I have a new video coming out soon. Just recorded it and want to do a little editing first. The fix was getting the ATEM Mini Extreme. The extreme has 2 HDMI outputs one I use for the multiview and the second I use with a splitter to go down to the fellowship hall for use as a cry room or just in case some one isn't feeling well and wants to get away from the others in the pew. ( I actually did that last weekend when I got a coughing attack and had to get out of the sanctuary during the sermon) the other half of the splitter is available to go to the front screens when/if we ever get those installed. The Extreme also has 2 USB-C outputs I use to record to the SSD and also use in Webex during our voters meetings. This allows for those that work weekends (like me) to attend live and vote on church business. Lastly it has a headphone jack to monitor the audio going to the program out. These 3 additions sold me on the higher price and there are several nice features in addition that I am still looking at. Check out one of our live streams to see how our output looks. Thanks for the questions and good luck. Feel free to stay in touch.
Can’t get picture from Avipas ptz camera on atem mini pro. How is yours set up? Did u have the same issue when u set it up?
The first question I would ask - does your AVIPAS PTZ have HDMI out or SDI or something else. I went with HDMI out because of the HDMI inputs on the ATEM. When we started we had a single camcorder running HDMI to the ATEM mini Pro. Then I added the first PTZ and I went with the AVIPAS AV 1281 HDMI camera for the other side of the church. At that time we used the remote that came with the camera and had presets for different locations, center alter, pulpit, etc. Eventually we sprung for a second 1281 PTZ and the AVIPAS AV-3104IP 4D Joystick PTZ Controller. The controller works through our network and we have presets for both cameras. The ATEM Mini extreme followed and was the perfect upgrade to meet our needs.
When setting it all up with the cameras, I initially tested each camera directly to the ATEM so I knew they worked. Then I connected it on the other side of the church using HDMI to Ethernet extenders due to the distance. Then the problems began. I thought it was the extender that was causing the issue. Not so. It turned out I was using cheap HDMI cables at one or both ends of the extension. When I upgraded to much better 4k cables I suddenly had rock steady video coming in from the cameras. The cheap cables work fine from the laptop to the ATEM for PPT but the video inputs needed the better cables to be reliable. Hope that helps.
Ken
What would be an inexpensive FIXED camera with HDMI out to an ATEM mini Pro for a Drummer ?
Find an older GO PRO or small camcorder. As long as they have HDMI out you can set it up. IF you want it for the drummer the GO-Pro as a nice wide angle so I imagine you can have it fairly close and get his movements.
Thank you for helping. Are you using the ethernet connection to the computer and then the computer out to the internet or is it connected to a hub?
The ATEM is connected to the ethernet switch. This allows the computer to connect to the ATEM via the ethernet for managing the livestream and monitor the audio inputs. The ATEM then connects to our TH-cam channel directly so the computer is not tied up with any of that. Takes the pressure off the laptop and allows for a less powerful system.
@@Lotchik_Fishing thank you for the reply. I have a problem in that my setup has to be mobile so I connect via a dedicated hotspot through my computer. My question is can I connect to the atem directly through ethernet or ethernet switch and still have functionality by connecting to the internet through the computer?
@@phoenixdragon5154 If you are using OBS or VMix or other software for streaming then use the usb-c output from the ATEM into the computer. OBS/VMix or other streaming software will take this as a webcam input and you are set. When you use the usb-c connection you can also control the ATEM while it is treated as the webcam. You can also use the ethernet hub/switch for control of cameras or use a camera controller etc, and still use the usb-c output as the webcam for your streaming software which then would go through your hotspot. I am not sure if the ATEM can be connected to the hotspot since I have not tried it. I believe that it can but don't quote me on that one.
@@phoenixdragon5154 we use hotspot for atem because church is in a rural area with no ISP internet. Depends what kind of hotspot you have. If you using a phone hot stop you will have purchase an adapt for your phone that has Ethernet ability on one end and plus in the Ethernet into the atem. Now if you have actual hotspot it should have Ethernet slots on there just put one end of the Ethernet in the hotspot and other in the atem. Hotspot is what we using and hadn’t had an issue so far, but connect everything to a Ethernet Network Switch/Hub. Hope this helps. Good luck.
Thanks for that input. I heard you can do that with the ATEM but have not needed to try it. I am working a personal project using my ATEM mini pro, and portability will be the key. that may be something I dig deeper into.