Thank you for this. Hope you don't delete this video. A bit late, but you're the reason why we bought Pro Presenter and we're watching this again as we're slowly completing our set up. :D
Hello, greetings from Brazil. How’s it going? First, I’d like to thank you for the amazing, enriching, and truly uplifting content. The explanations are great, but I’d love to know if you happen to have a diagram of the equipment to better understand how the connections are set up, especially with the Mac mini, the DeckLink Duo, the ATEM Mini, and how they send the signal to the video hub. Big hug, and may God bless you all.
Do you have a video for livestream setup & mixing? Also one on mastering the audio for post-production would be helpful as well! Keep up the work on these videos, these are great as always!
We use 3 cameras and 4th is lower thirds or slides from ProPresenter to our Atem mini pro. Since it has encoding and streaming built in, it's independent of ProPresenter, so if ProPresenter crashes, we don't lose our live stream. Plus, that way we aren't having to pay yet again for resi or restream or anything. We don't have those kind of funds. I love ProPresenter 7. We had 6 before and it was great but 7 is so much better. ProPresenter is so much better than ANYTHING out there.
@DamonIrving yes, but you can get an Osee GoStream deck which is like an atem but, it streams up to 3 destinations at once and ALL controls are on the deck. No need for another computer for the other part.
@@WayneWatson1 so would I use this to replace the ATEM for multiple streaming destinations or are you saying I can use this in conjunction with the ATEM?
Praise the lord! Very nice but money talks, right? Will get there one day if not then we gonna keep thanking the lord for what we have in front of us. Humble beginnings. Bless
I switched us from a Mac mini to a PC because of apple soldering everything to the motherboard, like memory and storage. If the ssd fails, which it does a lot it seems, you have to buy a whole new computer or spend a lot of money and time in a shop. The computer won't boot up if the ssd dies. The PC has 2 nvme drives that I keep a clone of the main storage drive. If it goes down, I can boot to the other ssd and replace the main for $100 and go back to having 2 of them. It's great having a running backup drive. I can replace any part in the PC in 30min or so myself and be back up and running. I prefer the Intel processor macs over their m1 or m2
Very good informative video!! Thank you! We currently use ProPresenter only for the church lyrics, announcements ect...and use OBS on another computer to transmit LIVE. We want to only use ProPresenter to do both things at the same time...Do you have a video that shows this in action? Thank you.
Quick question, how are you guys connecting the Mac to the Atem? I have an HDMI splitter at my church from a M1 Mac Mini and Im trying to figure out how to send 2 different HDMI cables to the Atem from the same Mac in order to have lower third lyrics and full screen displays like in the video. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks
okay this might be dumb question but like what hardware do you NEED? we have two tvs for audience and one for stage, right now we just have a hdmi splitter but is there a way to get different outputs on those tvs at the same time without like an ATEM mini and 3 150ft hdmi cables lol? new to the video side of things sorry 😭
Have you into an issue , we’ll Two issues the first being then when you click on the bible tab and look up the scripture you need then click on it , and nothing happened a it won’t show up on the screens on the stage, so I have to save as into my playlist so then it works , and issue two we purchase a bible version and it says it’s installed but when I look it up nothing it’s not there?
At our church, various different volunteers provide input in the presentation. My question, is: Can volunteers log in from home and add their contribution to the service using the free license? Basically, can the person who builds the song slides do that part from home? Alternatively, can we import a slide show from powerpoint (if they built that at home and sent in). Thanks in advance, great overview and review video.
I would say a remote support style program or service would be best but I also don't think that'll be approved by the church staff since it can create a security risk and would also let them connect and add/change/delete stuff at any time. You don't want that on a production computer/device.
We use proclaim slides. It has one license for unlimited accounts. Presenter Pro only has an old school per seat license which has been a show stopper (pun intended). It would get really expensive if I had a team of 5 volunteers licensed in pro presenter and have to share the file via Dropbox or something.
we use worship Extreme now which is presenter, it has a cloud base interface that we store all our slides and songs on and we can setup up the service from home and then when we have the service all we do is open the software and call up that service we did from home. does propersenter do the same thing?
Thank you for showing the specs of the Mac Mini, as I ordered a Mini with 8gb ram. Some have mentioned that 8gb isn’t enough, yet I’ve heard both the 8gb and 16gb aren’t a huge difference in terms of Pro7 and audio production.
praise the lord brother, am from disciples community church india what is the basic system requirement of this software.? in our church we have 2 display screen for bible verse and 2 cameras just a small setup i have so how do i setup.?
Having used both ProPresenter and Proclaim, which software do you think is better? Would you please do a comparison? If not, just a recommendation. We're currently using ProPresenter, however it has a tendency to crash at times.
The reason to go to the video hub is say you want the same feed for the projectors also to go into your switcher, lobby TV's, etc.. you can without having 4 outputs of the same thing coming from the mac. It's also helpful to have your projectors on the video hub to say if you want to run something different to your projectors you just have to change the feed on the hub rather than unplugging the line and connecting it to a new device. Hope that helps!
Is there any good like for like software out there? As propresenter is now holding places to ransom I need to propose to my leadership cheaper alternatives.
Hello, I yesterday bought an Epson CO-FH2 projector. Any ideas on how it can work with ProPresenter for church services without using the HDMI cable because the projector has Chromecast? I would like to only present or display to the main church screen only what I want but as it is with Chromecast, it only has the option to display my whole screen. Any pointers will be appreciated. Thanks.
I'm having issues setting up midi cues because the network port is already being use for Dante. Is there a work around for this or am I dead in the water. The dante network is configured properly and I've tried messing with the the order within the network settings. Either way, midi works and dante doesn't or vice versa.
Hi Jake and Adam, Will the course cover advance techniques like all the automation side with light key and ambleton or is just for beginners who have never use it before. As I would love to learn more about the automation side :-)
hello inned your we have 6 tvs in our church we want to be controlling each but they are connect together what device can we buy wich can help us to share deffirent informatiom but being control also with pro presenter
Can you speak on cost? Not the actual $, but you mentioned a pastor adding sermons directly to pro presenter. How would that work. Would they remote into your Pro-present machine? Would they need another license seat for a computer elsewhere? A site license? Would you need the cloud plan? It isn’t clear. At least not to me.
M1 Mac Mini natively supports 2 displays only. But here they are using a DeckLink Duo in an external expansion case, which basically is an external graphics card. Now the displays are being handled by the DeckLink Duo and no the Mac mini.
Can I use DeckLink Duo to send different video signals ? one to the projector and a different one to a TV for example ? signals can be raw camera footage, another computer presentation (powerpoint) screen or the live feed (with all the graphics fro wirecast) ? Thank You
I like that Multiview you guys have setup. Do you find that having a the multiview is taxing on your computer? Because you're displaying 4 seperate outputs at once?
a control display, 2 screens in the sanctuary front, a stage display in the back, and 5 tvs in the lobby, and a live stream display. How do you connect so many displays to a single machine with limited ports? I understand using an ATEM for multiple inputs, but what to use for multiple outputs?
One easy to use solution is the VideoHub - a crossbar switch that lets you send any input to any set of outputs. We use one (a 12x12) for all the in-booth video routing and another (40x40) for everything else in the church (cameras, displays...)
@@adamwberanekHello, greetings from Brazil. How’s it going? First, I’d like to thank you for the amazing, enriching, and truly uplifting content. The explanations are great, but I’d love to know if you happen to have a diagram of the equipment to better understand how the connections are set up, especially with the Mac mini, the DeckLink Duo, the ATEM Mini, and how they send the signal to the video hub. Big hug, and may God bless you all.
Hey Jake! Would you have a suggestion on getting a signal to projectors that do not have sdi? Is there a cat6 to hdmi option you've seen you'd recommend?
Did you have a list of all the components our church would need to buy in regards to the expansion chassis to run multiple outputs? Also, if we aren’t using a video switcher, would we need to get sdi converters to hdmi?
Sonnet has its Echo Express SE expansion chassis series, BMD has the decklink duo with quad SDI - you would also need SDI-to-HDMI converters (again, BMD has USB powered micro converters that can be powered from your remote TVs) and 3G-SDI cables to connect them. If you get the expansion chassis with 2x PCiE slots, you can have two Decklink cards / 8x SDI connections... The VideoHub 12 is a great way to connect multiple monitors to a single source, while being able to choose and change things on the fly...
Hey,nice vid! How do you exactly route your macmini hdmi output to monitor as well as on the switcher? by splitter? or you route it first to video hub? Sorry i did not quite understand that part.
You are right, it is possible to run the HDMI display out thru a HDMI splitter - though the cheap ones often cause more problems than they solve. As we use a ATEM 4K that doesn't support 1080@60, I find myself using lots of Decimator HD-MX "swiss army knife" converter/scalers that have HDM IN & OUT as well as HDMI-SDI conversion with a robust scaler. Personally, I like to run the computer hdmi port to a videohub input, and then use VH outputs to send signals back to the display monitors in the booth (computer to HDMI-SDI converter to VH input, then VH output to SDI-HDMI converter to display). This setup lets me quickly repurpose the displays in the booth if/as needed for maintenance, setup tasks, swapping operator positions, etc...
They are using a deck link duo from black magic. This allows you to have 4 outputs and is a dedicated graphics card so the Mac Mini doesn’t have to take on that burden of processing.
Thank you for this. Hope you don't delete this video. A bit late, but you're the reason why we bought Pro Presenter and we're watching this again as we're slowly completing our set up. :D
hi there, what plan do u recommend?
I just started using propresenter last week at our church .i am doing the slides and im so excited .,.god bless you all
This little behind the scenes clips are always good. Gives us lots of ideas.
We have it at our church and I just started to learn on it, it’s definitely a lot smoother flow, impressed so far
Hello, greetings from Brazil. How’s it going? First, I’d like to thank you for the amazing, enriching, and truly uplifting content. The explanations are great, but I’d love to know if you happen to have a diagram of the equipment to better understand how the connections are set up, especially with the Mac mini, the DeckLink Duo, the ATEM Mini, and how they send the signal to the video hub. Big hug, and may God bless you all.
This came out just in time for our church 🤝
Ours too!
Me too
Me too
Do you have a video for livestream setup & mixing? Also one on mastering the audio for post-production would be helpful as well! Keep up the work on these videos, these are great as always!
We use 3 cameras and 4th is lower thirds or slides from ProPresenter to our Atem mini pro. Since it has encoding and streaming built in, it's independent of ProPresenter, so if ProPresenter crashes, we don't lose our live stream. Plus, that way we aren't having to pay yet again for resi or restream or anything. We don't have those kind of funds.
I love ProPresenter 7. We had 6 before and it was great but 7 is so much better. ProPresenter is so much better than ANYTHING out there.
Agree. ProPresenter is expensive enough and considering how complex the simplest task is in it, it is not even close to worth what it cost.
Since you aren't using resi or restream, Are you all streaming to only one destination through the ATEM? or multiple?
@DamonIrving yes, but you can get an Osee GoStream deck which is like an atem but, it streams up to 3 destinations at once and ALL controls are on the deck. No need for another computer for the other part.
@@WayneWatson1 so would I use this to replace the ATEM for multiple streaming destinations or are you saying I can use this in conjunction with the ATEM?
@@DamonIrving in place of. No need for the atem
16:34... you guys labeled your SDI cables. SMART!!!!
Thanks guys. This is great. Would you have a video on how to connect an iPad (used by pastor) for in service projection while livestreaming?
Praise the lord! Very nice but money talks, right? Will get there one day if not then we gonna keep thanking the lord for what we have in front of us. Humble beginnings. Bless
How about crack?
Same. Using OpenLp for the meantime.
@@Larph13 I can give a crack, just eat
Is it possible to crack on mac?
I switched us from a Mac mini to a PC because of apple soldering everything to the motherboard, like memory and storage. If the ssd fails, which it does a lot it seems, you have to buy a whole new computer or spend a lot of money and time in a shop. The computer won't boot up if the ssd dies.
The PC has 2 nvme drives that I keep a clone of the main storage drive. If it goes down, I can boot to the other ssd and replace the main for $100 and go back to having 2 of them. It's great having a running backup drive. I can replace any part in the PC in 30min or so myself and be back up and running.
I prefer the Intel processor macs over their m1 or m2
Awesome watch! Thanks
I want this for my church. Ty for sharing.
Very good informative video!! Thank you! We currently use ProPresenter only for the church lyrics, announcements ect...and use OBS on another computer to transmit LIVE. We want to only use ProPresenter to do both things at the same time...Do you have a video that shows this in action? Thank you.
Thank you so much for this needed overview🙏🏾
It's very useful to me. Thank you.
This came at the perfect time, thank you very much!
Hello to you. Is it possible to know the signal chain and components used in this vide.. a detailed diagram may be. Shalom
Gotta setup a decklink box! Thanks for the tip!
MultiTracks Pro Presenter add-on! With the prebuilt templates and chords included on the stage display, it’s an absolute game changer!
Quick question, how are you guys connecting the Mac to the Atem? I have an HDMI splitter at my church from a M1 Mac Mini and Im trying to figure out how to send 2 different HDMI cables to the Atem from the same Mac in order to have lower third lyrics and full screen displays like in the video. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks
Question ..Do I need a switcher like a black magic atem when I run wirecast or vmix ? Or is pro presenter the one stop shop?
We use lightkey also. So how do you have ProPresenter to trigger lightkey? Is there somewhere y'all talk about how to do that?
Oh My! What font are you using? I love it.
thank you guide. you help me thank"s is propresenter 😁
okay this might be dumb question but like what hardware do you NEED? we have two tvs for audience and one for stage, right now we just have a hdmi splitter but is there a way to get different outputs on those tvs at the same time without like an ATEM mini and 3 150ft hdmi cables lol? new to the video side of things sorry 😭
Have you into an issue , we’ll Two issues the first being then when you click on the bible tab and look up the scripture you need then click on it , and nothing happened a it won’t show up on the screens on the stage, so I have to save as into my playlist so then it works , and issue two we purchase a bible version and it says it’s installed but when I look it up nothing it’s not there?
How can we stream out to our TH-cam streaming & Facebook?//
And we use TH-cam, for our music library,
are you streaming wireless to tv's?
At our church, various different volunteers provide input in the presentation. My question, is: Can volunteers log in from home and add their contribution to the service using the free license? Basically, can the person who builds the song slides do that part from home? Alternatively, can we import a slide show from powerpoint (if they built that at home and sent in). Thanks in advance, great overview and review video.
I would say a remote support style program or service would be best but I also don't think that'll be approved by the church staff since it can create a security risk and would also let them connect and add/change/delete stuff at any time.
You don't want that on a production computer/device.
We use proclaim slides. It has one license for unlimited accounts. Presenter Pro only has an old school per seat license which has been a show stopper (pun intended). It would get really expensive if I had a team of 5 volunteers licensed in pro presenter and have to share the file via Dropbox or something.
we use worship Extreme now which is presenter, it has a cloud base interface that we store all our slides and songs on and we can setup up the service from home and then when we have the service all we do is open the software and call up that service we did from home. does propersenter do the same thing?
Superb Setup
Make a video on how to connect all that
Amazing keep up the good work guys
You use the Mac mini base model but it can connect just 2 displays… how to connect that many displays to one Mac mini
Thank you for showing the specs of the Mac Mini, as I ordered a Mini with 8gb ram. Some have mentioned that 8gb isn’t enough, yet I’ve heard both the 8gb and 16gb aren’t a huge difference in terms of Pro7 and audio production.
This is sooo dope!
Can you have ProPresenter trigger key changes for waves in Abelton?
praise the lord brother, am from disciples community church india what is the basic system requirement of this software.? in our church we have 2 display screen for bible verse and 2 cameras just a small setup i have so how do i setup.?
Do you have a video setting up the tv/monitors around the building? Hardware and software set up?
Having used both ProPresenter and Proclaim, which software do you think is better? Would you please do a comparison? If not, just a recommendation. We're currently using ProPresenter, however it has a tendency to crash at times.
Why would you go out from the duo to the video hub? Could you go straight to your outputs? Tv, projector, switcher…?
Video hub gives you more routing options.
The reason to go to the video hub is say you want the same feed for the projectors also to go into your switcher, lobby TV's, etc.. you can without having 4 outputs of the same thing coming from the mac. It's also helpful to have your projectors on the video hub to say if you want to run something different to your projectors you just have to change the feed on the hub rather than unplugging the line and connecting it to a new device. Hope that helps!
Ok, so can you get different content to 4 places? (Broadcast, Low Wall, High Wall and Side Screens as an example??)
thanks for this video yall! is there a way to send lower thirds and graphics to stream as separate inputs from PP7?
Is there any good like for like software out there? As propresenter is now holding places to ransom I need to propose to my leadership cheaper alternatives.
Thanks a lot. Great video. Do I have to buy a subscription to try a Pro presenter out?
Dang why didn’t I see this a few weeks ago! Hate I missed the discount
Hello,
I yesterday bought an Epson CO-FH2 projector. Any ideas on how it can work with ProPresenter for church services without using the HDMI cable because the projector has Chromecast? I would like to only present or display to the main church screen only what I want but as it is with Chromecast, it only has the option to display my whole screen. Any pointers will be appreciated. Thanks.
What is the camera/video head sitting on? Looks like a great way to utilize space!
Hi Can download Pics and Vidz from my phone to Pro presenter ? Will it be blur ?
I'm having issues setting up midi cues because the network port is already being use for Dante. Is there a work around for this or am I dead in the water. The dante network is configured properly and I've tried messing with the the order within the network settings. Either way, midi works and dante doesn't or vice versa.
Hi Jake and Adam, Will the course cover advance techniques like all the automation side with light key and ambleton or is just for beginners who have never use it before. As I would love to learn more about the automation side :-)
Yes it will cover it all
Look at MIDI notes, lightkey supports them as well as propresenter, that's what we use
Please see this video: th-cam.com/video/LTtSpb8yhco/w-d-xo.html
hello inned your we have 6 tvs in our church we want to be controlling each but they are connect together what device can we buy wich can help us to share deffirent informatiom but being control also with pro presenter
Can you speak on cost? Not the actual $, but you mentioned a pastor adding sermons directly to pro presenter. How would that work. Would they remote into your Pro-present machine? Would they need another license seat for a computer elsewhere? A site license? Would you need the cloud plan? It isn’t clear. At least not to me.
Would windows or mac be better on propresenter? We got a mac mini but we are sttruggling on the displays
How does the outputs work with the M1 mini? I was under the impression that it only supported 2 display outputs?
M1 Mac Mini natively supports 2 displays only. But here they are using a DeckLink Duo in an external expansion case, which basically is an external graphics card. Now the displays are being handled by the DeckLink Duo and no the Mac mini.
Hello, i have a problem with my church propresenter, kindlz give a guide
Questions: do any of you know how to set up a IR relay for projectors to be turned on/off/blank from sound booth?
What keyboard are you using for your Mac mini
Why would you not get Intel anymore for propresenter?
Can I use DeckLink Duo to send different video signals ? one to the projector and a different one to a TV for example ? signals can be raw camera footage, another computer presentation (powerpoint) screen or the live feed (with all the graphics fro wirecast) ? Thank You
can you tell me what are the subscriptions recommended for operation that you guys are mentioning?
I like that Multiview you guys have setup. Do you find that having a the multiview is taxing on your computer? Because you're displaying 4 seperate outputs at once?
a control display, 2 screens in the sanctuary front, a stage display in the back, and 5 tvs in the lobby, and a live stream display. How do you connect so many displays to a single machine with limited ports? I understand using an ATEM for multiple inputs, but what to use for multiple outputs?
We use a Decklink Duo from Blackmagic design
One easy to use solution is the VideoHub - a crossbar switch that lets you send any input to any set of outputs. We use one (a 12x12) for all the in-booth video routing and another (40x40) for everything else in the church (cameras, displays...)
@@adamwberanekHello, greetings from Brazil. How’s it going? First, I’d like to thank you for the amazing, enriching, and truly uplifting content. The explanations are great, but I’d love to know if you happen to have a diagram of the equipment to better understand how the connections are set up, especially with the Mac mini, the DeckLink Duo, the ATEM Mini, and how they send the signal to the video hub. Big hug, and may God bless you all.
@@streamingmvv6014 I don't have a specific diagram for that scenario - there are a lot of configurations you could go with that set of gear
Hi! Can you link the video you refer to at 18:19 please?
Hi! what the name OR MODEL of EXPASSION CHASSI?
Why I'm I facing buffering when I stream to FB? I have about 20 upload.
Can't see the link to the Stand-alone course. Kindly help. Very interested in buying for my church
Sir i have a request video, can you do a video the connection of the Zoom going to Propresenter. Thank You sir jake Godbless.
Hey Jake! Would you have a suggestion on getting a signal to projectors that do not have sdi? Is there a cat6 to hdmi option you've seen you'd recommend?
Run SDI, then get a Blackmagic SDI to HDMI Converter
Are you using an SDI to HDMI converter at each video output destination?
Hi Jake, how do you manage to import a lyric library ChordPro format in ProPresenter ?
By any chance does anyone know if a macbook air 16gb unified memory M2 would be enough for multiple outputs?
What font lyric are u using?
What LG screen are you using
Thank you !
What do y’all use for pre-service music?
Waooh!!!! thiis' amazing
how much memory storage on mac mini?
Can you stream to multiple destinations?
Did you have a list of all the components our church would need to buy in regards to the expansion chassis to run multiple outputs? Also, if we aren’t using a video switcher, would we need to get sdi converters to hdmi?
Sonnet has its Echo Express SE expansion chassis series, BMD has the decklink duo with quad SDI - you would also need SDI-to-HDMI converters (again, BMD has USB powered micro converters that can be powered from your remote TVs) and 3G-SDI cables to connect them. If you get the expansion chassis with 2x PCiE slots, you can have two Decklink cards / 8x SDI connections... The VideoHub 12 is a great way to connect multiple monitors to a single source, while being able to choose and change things on the fly...
Question: why don't you use NDI?
What chassis are you using with the Duo decklink box and M1 mac mini?
What's a good app or software that's free for praise and worship
OpenSong is a great free option, our church has been using it for several years now. If you want simple and FREE that's where I'd point you.
Hey,nice vid! How do you exactly route your macmini hdmi output to monitor as well as on the switcher? by splitter? or you route it first to video hub? Sorry i did not quite understand that part.
We use a thunderbolt out for the monitor and the hdmi out to the ATEM mini.
You are right, it is possible to run the HDMI display out thru a HDMI splitter - though the cheap ones often cause more problems than they solve. As we use a ATEM 4K that doesn't support 1080@60, I find myself using lots of Decimator HD-MX "swiss army knife" converter/scalers that have HDM IN & OUT as well as HDMI-SDI conversion with a robust scaler.
Personally, I like to run the computer hdmi port to a videohub input, and then use VH outputs to send signals back to the display monitors in the booth (computer to HDMI-SDI converter to VH input, then VH output to SDI-HDMI converter to display). This setup lets me quickly repurpose the displays in the booth if/as needed for maintenance, setup tasks, swapping operator positions, etc...
Do you have some one who can do the setup in NY or NJ area?
Hi Jake, how do you get so many outputs from the Mac mini? I have been trying to figure that out... Thanks!
They are using a deck link duo from black magic. This allows you to have 4 outputs and is a dedicated graphics card so the Mac Mini doesn’t have to take on that burden of processing.
GOOD JOB
Adam is from CZ republic?
Can ProPresenter play a DVD or Blu-Ray as part of a presentation?
I would l think it would be able to play anything that the computer can display thru the screen share that he demonstrated @ 17:15.
I don’t see the link to the propresenter course.
worshipministryschool.com/propresenter-essentials/
cool things
How did you setup the lower thirds for live stream
Gracias
Nice & Thanks :)
let's not understimate the power of that expansion chassis. I think all this is possible because of it imo
I wish we had gone with a PC for that exact reason. without the chassis, none of this would work as flawlessly.
In Ghana here an M1 mini can cost a fortune
Amet 🎉
Watching this video made me feel sick 🤢😂 manual focus bro! And chill with the quick movement! Dang! 😂