Hook and Morris are so good, and Gilbert fit right in. You can see how stressful these early shows are on Sumner, and they are a testament to overcoming what some may refer to as a lack of talent to become a consummate front man. Their perseverance has brought enormous beauty into my life.
The eternal enigma of New Order. They're all over the place half the time live and yet you can count on one hand the number of bands whose music moves me as much as theirs. God love them.
I'm kind of getting back into New Order after recently seeing Peter Hook. I have just discovered that he was one hell of a drummer even way back then. He is always on his game.
They looked so young, awkward, lost and scared yet they're still up there playing. They have my utmost admiration for moving on despite their tragedy and shortcomings; it shows their desperation. Others thought they were done, Tony Wilson expected A Certain Ratio to be the next success story. Against all odds, it was the remnant of Joy Division that would yet again save Factory Records.
+canuck21 1. They didn't "look" young, they WERE young. 2. It shows their "desperation"? Dead wrong, it shows their resolve and persistence, perhaps even courage although that might be a stretch. In spite of any tragedy, life goes on, and so we all must as well.
Weld 797 \m/ The perception of youth is all relative. Sure they were young compared to now, but they were in their mid 20s in this video which is rather normal. When I say young, I meant like little boys.. and girl.
Actually Sumner made a lot of mistakes live on guitar in the Joy Division period and early New Order too - perhaps since then have taught to play his part correctly.
To those complaining about the crowd , this ain't a song to dance to, it's one in which you contemplate. New order gave plenty tunes to dance to but this is a joy division song. It's one where you think deep and your mind goes to someplace else. What you do is close your eyes and start bobbling your head. That's what the crowd does here.
This is so raw. They look like they were just told about Ian fifteen minutes ago. And they are BABIES. Sumner can barely get the words out, the guitars pushing him through, and the incredible double-timeheartbeat of the drumming, an engine that can't stop. And the audience standing around grimly like they're at a wake, and the lone man dancing.
Fukin stupid comment again from all you so called emotional experts LMAO! The band were over IC's death within months FFS! They fukin knew he was iffy all along! Was NO surprise! GET OVER IT!
@@beaware6487 i somehow agree with you, even if i dont get why yoy are so vulgar. I think that difficult for them was to play a song in someway already part of their past,. The emotional aspect is overrated , band was ready to go further and summer eager to be front line.
He even has the same mannerisms. Thankfully, he lightened up and found his own identity - writing some of the most beautiful songs to have graced my ears over the last 30 years.
Yea I know technically it sounds bad, but I think its the perfect version of it because it is channeling the suicide and sadness of Curtis and you can see that the band were struggling with the loss.
***** Probably not, unless Ian changed his style with them as he wasn't completely gothic and baritone. He actually had an amazing tenor baritone range that wouldn't have restrained him at all in his experimentation of style if he lived to see the rest of the eighties. But who knows really since we don't live in that alternate universe.
Mr. 2:55 -I love that he's the only one moved by the music enough to let it take hold of him. :D Such beauties know how to live a real and genuine life,mate. ;) Love you forever.
The performance was even more meaningful. I felt it in the music. I don't like perfect music or perfect things. Beauty is everywhere people keep your eyes peeled
Bernard is so nervous as the front man....have never thought he really came to terms with it......but they still ended being the best thanks for all the fun xx
i was 16 at this gig and still in awe of joy division .. barney was nervous as hell and even had a half bottle of whiskey on the go to help him through the songs :P
Responding way later, but... wow, I would've loved to have been at that show. You can tell that, for all their time spent in Joy Division, they were still fresh-faced. Any other memories?
John McGregor no i was sumwhere in the middle with my friend .. .....wed seen joy division 3 times and then carried on with new orders 1st gig then one at the itv studios in Manchester
How Bernard ended up doing vocals was because they didnt want to replace Ian. So they didn’t want to bring in some new singer. because NOBODY could replace Ian.
You can tell their hearts are hurting but their music is absolute perfection and as the core being the band I'm so glad they chose to move forward and keep going. They deserved every bit of success that they got and each one of them is so unique and brings so much to the sound that we all love.
+minoterino You're being a teeny tiny bit maudlin here...mixed with bad therapy double speak. New Order were/are never unsure of themselves. In fact their brazen arrogance and self belief - combined with sublime ground breaking music - speaks volumes, so enough with the "so painful" and "Bernie not crying" daftness.
I personally think his performance is purposefully affected. You only sing like that on purpose, or in a Hollywood film when they are trying to portray a live performance bombing.
jackiline Wright Same...plus depeche, OMD, MGMT, BOWIE, Muse, Pulp, etc. etc...too many favorites that became the soundtrack of my life and gave me the only reason to stay alive.
I don’t think they realised how massive they would be. 40 years later and this song is simply breathtaking. What phenomenal musicians. Imagine being born 40 years from now. No one will tell you how good they were.
Such a perfect song. Such a perfect band. Joy Division/New Order on the top. One of theirs masterpieces. And Ian Curtis' lyrics are wonderful, beautiful, so rough and so powerful.
All of them are complete musicians. And Peter and Gillian are very good singers (much better than Bernard) But I like Sumner singing out of tune, loosing his voice, I think very organic. New Order is - like Joy Division was - very special. Always will be
It was a great gig! Me and my brother are stood in front of the keyboards. It was nice to get a invite for there first live performance since Ian died.
Great High Hat shuffling along, always love this song, "this is why events unnerve me....Ian Curtis brilliant Lyric Poet! Great band! I've heard most all your stuff, from Warsaw, Walked in Line, entire album, Joy Division, and saw you as New Order, in Santa Barbara, Ca. 1985
This must have been so hard for them to perform, so soon after Ian’s death. Hats off to them for continuing on with the music. RIP Ian Curtis. You are missed, and I hope you finally found your peace.
Celebration ,.to me is the perfect indie song. Written so early on, but was the template for so many bands. You can hear, the high, new fads, house of love, roses, lush..... They all came from this song
I think this was recorded on 23 April 1981. To give a bit of context, Ian Curtis had died on 18 May 1980, Gillian Gilbert had joined the group in October 1980, and there first album Movement would be released in November 1981, about seven months after this performance. So this is very early New Order and Sumner is not yet an experienced singer, hence why he struggles. Hook and Morris were doing the same thing they had done in Joy Division, so they are giving a much needed stability to the group while Sumner finds his feet, and Gillian Gilbert picks up the slack as the guitarist.
I was really relieved when I got this 45 home and listened to it for the first time. There was something that remained, that persevered. Regardless of the content this song will always have a positive connotation for me.
will iams: So jealous that you were able to attend this live concert. I was freaking 10 years old and never allowed to listen to music other than classical or big band. This band has at times been my escape of pleasant memories.
God damn it, I love how raw this performance is. Stephen Morris effing killing it on the drums. Bernard figuring out his voice. This song is probably one of my favorites by Joy Division/New Order. RIP Ian Curtis.
Starting all over, with grieving. Gotta give it to them for pulling it together like they did. I garauntee, as much as a lot of people would love to say it would be it's easy, I know from personal experience it takes a while to pull your self back together. They're pretty amazing.
I saw them in Hollywood 1982 for the first time at Florentine Gardens. The place is / was an old roller skating rink ( I think ) that really wasn’t meant to have live music as the sound was horrible. No fault of New Order. I was disappointed but absolutely stoked to have been there to make the scene, meet new people, and run into ones you knew. To me Joy Division / New Order were the future! Which is why I tried to never miss a show whenever they came to town. Last time in … 2006-07? Up in Oakland before Peter Hook left. They’re not the most exciting band to see live but the music … hard to beat!
Bernard had just picked up the vocals around this time’ they had a change of name after Ian Curtis demise’ bernard became a very good singer trough out the years and New Order will always be a living legend
Technically speaking- it's a rather poor perfomance. But it's sincerity makes up for it. For me it's a reminder that music isn't about technique and skill, it's about sincerity & emotion. The fella who's getting lost in the music is a prime example to this.
Fuck yes!! you just took the words right outta my mouth! I personally love this! I can feel the raw emotion and how sad and angry they look, I mean it's only been 1 year since Ian died. they are all so strong to keep performing and to keep ians spirit alive!
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Stephen Morris really IS a human drum machine. It takes a lot of guts and will power to carry on drumming so fearlessly.
@Qwerty-db1js
Yes, "fearlessly." It's so terrifying is drumming:)
Best drummer of all time
it's a fucking job!
@@beaware6487 Of course it is! That's why I said he is a human drum machine!!!
The spirit of Ian was in that guy dancing
Hahaha yesss
lolzz, indeed 😂
Yes. Gotta love the one dancer while the rest of the crowd looks bored.
I wonder if that guy had seen them when they still were Joy Division.
C West i've seen 10 other new order concert footage with that exact guy and exact scene
Gosh, this is such a tender and vulnerable mess. Sumner is still trying to sing like Ian. I truly love this.
He's nothing like Ian...
He's a talentless..I can't stand him singing...absolutely tuneless and tone deaf...and out of tune...
That one guy dancing.....he's my spirit animal.
D Huckaby Yeah, reminds me of Ian.
D Huckaby ya good on him.. everyone was just sitting there and he's feelin it.. I respect that, he's having fun!
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Slide!
Hook and Morris are so good, and Gilbert fit right in. You can see how stressful these early shows are on Sumner, and they are a testament to overcoming what some may refer to as a lack of talent to become a consummate front man. Their perseverance has brought enormous beauty into my life.
Me too.
The eternal enigma of New Order. They're all over the place half the time live and yet you can count on one hand the number of bands whose music moves me as much as theirs. God love them.
They were never slick and showbiz. That striving for something more caused them to fall apart sometimes. But when it was together, they were sublime.
My sentiments exactly.
Stephem Morris powerhouse drummer.
Thats true man
He's certainly a very "busy" drummer.
I'm kind of getting back into New Order after recently seeing Peter Hook. I have just discovered that he was one hell of a drummer even way back then. He is always on his game.
They looked so young, awkward, lost and scared yet they're still up there playing. They have my utmost admiration for moving on despite their tragedy and shortcomings; it shows their desperation. Others thought they were done, Tony Wilson expected A Certain Ratio to be the next success story. Against all odds, it was the remnant of Joy Division that would yet again save Factory Records.
+canuck21 Yeah but what about all the signings they could have did ,the Smiths, and god knows how many others Tony Wilson was,nt that good sadly
+canuck21 1. They didn't "look" young, they WERE young. 2. It shows their "desperation"? Dead wrong, it shows their resolve and persistence, perhaps even courage although that might be a stretch. In spite of any tragedy, life goes on, and so we all must as well.
***** To me they do.
Weld 797 \m/ The perception of youth is all relative. Sure they were young compared to now, but they were in their mid 20s in this video which is rather normal. When I say young, I meant like little boys.. and girl.
Actually Sumner made a lot of mistakes live on guitar in the Joy Division period and early New Order too - perhaps since then have taught to play his part correctly.
To those complaining about the crowd , this ain't a song to dance to, it's one in which you contemplate. New order
gave plenty tunes to dance to but this is a joy division song. It's one where you think deep and your mind goes to someplace else. What you do is close your eyes and start bobbling your head. That's what the crowd does here.
This is so raw. They look like they were just told about Ian fifteen minutes ago. And they are BABIES. Sumner can barely get the words out, the guitars pushing him through, and the incredible double-timeheartbeat of the drumming, an engine that can't stop. And the audience standing around grimly like they're at a wake, and the lone man dancing.
The pain they are feeling is palpable, but they manage to hold it together. This must have been an insanely tough time for them.
Fukin stupid comment again from all you so called emotional experts LMAO! The band were over IC's death within months FFS! They fukin knew he was iffy all along! Was NO surprise! GET OVER IT!
Agree with some of what you say, but I wouldn't say they were 'babies'
@@beaware6487 i somehow agree with you, even if i dont get why yoy are so vulgar. I think that difficult for them was to play a song in someway already part of their past,. The emotional aspect is overrated , band was ready to go further and summer eager to be front line.
@@paulph12002 yeah they were 24-25 here so a bit older
2:55 Ian's spirit in this guy
hats off to these lads for carrying on after Ian‘s death.
Sad seeing Bernard trying to channel Ian with his vocals. Not that it's bad, just that you can feel the void, before they figured out how to move on.
He even has the same mannerisms. Thankfully, he lightened up and found his own identity - writing some of the most beautiful songs to have graced my ears over the last 30 years.
onenarrowdoor
spot on.
Ian's spirit touched everyone in the band. He lives through them.
Stephen "Drum machine" Morris
Yea I know technically it sounds bad, but I think its the perfect version of it because it is channeling the suicide and sadness of Curtis and you can see that the band were struggling with the loss.
Symbolic1 True, if only Ian made it to America, I can't even begin to imagine the wondrous things they would have done there with him.
***** Probably not, unless Ian changed his style with them as he wasn't completely gothic and baritone. He actually had an amazing tenor baritone range that wouldn't have restrained him at all in his experimentation of style if he lived to see the rest of the eighties. But who knows really since we don't live in that alternate universe.
+Symbolic1 I love the imperfections. It's endearing.
It does not sound bad technically.
Cannot put into words how this song makes me feel.
........celebration ceremony's...from them via....this wormhole technology.....👊while we still can....✊💓
Mr. 2:55 -I love that he's the only one moved by the music enough to let it take hold of him. :D Such beauties know how to live a real and genuine life,mate. ;) Love you forever.
That guy knew he was witnessing the start of something great
The performance was even more meaningful. I felt it in the music. I don't like perfect music or perfect things. Beauty is everywhere people keep your eyes peeled
I agree 🤗🤣🥰😁😁😏
Bernard is so nervous as the front man....have never thought he really came to terms with it......but they still ended being the best thanks for all the fun xx
a moment defining post punk, defining new wave, defining a whole generation!
i was 16 at this gig and still in awe of joy division .. barney was nervous as hell and even had a half bottle of whiskey on the go to help him through the songs :P
Responding way later, but... wow, I would've loved to have been at that show. You can tell that, for all their time spent in Joy Division, they were still fresh-faced. Any other memories?
will iams that's not you dancing, is it? :)
John McGregor no i was sumwhere in the middle with my friend .. .....wed seen joy division 3 times and then carried on with new orders 1st gig then one at the itv studios in Manchester
I was there too and in the video.they did in a lonely place.it wasn't broadcast.it was a brill version too.
Phil Alderson - How lucky were you to have had this experience
I don't think Bernard ever knew he'd be taking the place of Ian...
***** yeah yeah true true and your profile picture is fucking awesome!!
He didn’t replace anyone
@@MrRaErickson agree he didnt replace Ian, they went on to be something different
How Bernard ended up doing vocals was because they didnt want to replace Ian. So they didn’t want to bring in some new singer. because NOBODY could replace Ian.
neoisis best comment of all!
One of the rawest performances...I just love it. It speaks to my soul in ways I can’t describe.
*I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU FUCKING SAY*
*THIS IS THE BEST VERSION*
You can tell their hearts are hurting but their music is absolute perfection and as the core being the band I'm so glad they chose to move forward and keep going. They deserved every bit of success that they got and each one of them is so unique and brings so much to the sound that we all love.
🐈🦋🍁🍃🍃🍃
Still getting back on their feet. Gotta feel for Bernie, how can you fill Ian's shoes. However what they became was history.
He seems to be nervously adjusting everything he can. Props to the one guy dancing!
It looks so painful, but necessary to them to play this song live. It sounds as Bernie try not crying while singing... congrats guys, congrats
ToT
+minoterino You're being a teeny tiny bit maudlin here...mixed with bad therapy double speak. New Order were/are never unsure of themselves. In fact their brazen arrogance and self belief - combined with sublime ground breaking music - speaks volumes, so enough with the "so painful" and "Bernie not crying" daftness.
I personally think his performance is purposefully affected. You only sing like that on purpose, or in a Hollywood film when they are trying to portray a live performance bombing.
Bernie is such an awful guitar player ... writes riffs very well, but can’t play them.
Joy division and new order the two bands that my life !!!
jackiline Wright
Same...plus depeche, OMD, MGMT, BOWIE, Muse, Pulp, etc. etc...too many favorites that became the soundtrack of my life and gave me the only reason to stay alive.
I love barneys "bad" singing.
LOL!!!!! Its ALWAYS bad! Still is! Always WILL BE!
But he can strum the guitar all right
@@beaware6487 he sucks at guitar too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
he want to sing it like ian
Is it worse than David Tibet's?
@@eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeo hes decent in both but definitely the weakest link in joy division.
I’ve listen to this song maybe a thousand times and it’s never gotten tired.
I don’t think they realised how massive they would be. 40 years later and this song is simply breathtaking. What phenomenal musicians. Imagine being born 40 years from now. No one will tell you how good they were.
Somebody dancing like Andy McCluskey at 3:00. Priceless.
This is the early live versions I love so much, when Morris is just flying on the hi-hat.
I wonder how many calories Steve Morris burns per song? Probably that of an Olympic swimmer.
Something charming about Bernard’s mistakes, “New order” will forever have a special place in my heart.
2:55 Cuando eres un viajero del tiempo y vas a los 80's a disfrutar de esa gran rola en vivo.
For em this was the transformational song for JD / NO. You can see them pivot into their roles with this song and performance. Icon in every way
I love seeing them when they were such babies! Love this song
Beautifully Sad.❤️
Bernie looks 17 here, he is actually 25. In fact he has only really aged in the last couple of years.
THE BEST DRUMMER EVER!
Steven just kept the guys going. They were barely hanging on but Steven was a human drum machine.😃
This is so powerful and sad for me. I love them so much
New Order always veered between brilliance and incompetence when playing live, always let them off though!
fascinating point
Such a perfect song. Such a perfect band. Joy Division/New Order on the top. One of theirs masterpieces. And Ian Curtis' lyrics are wonderful, beautiful, so rough and so powerful.
It's got to be this time ...... watching love grow
I think early on, at least with this song, he was trying to sing like Ian Curtis. One of my all time favorite songs.
I've never seen or heard Barney aping Ian's voice or movements so much - must have been finding his feet here.
Holy crap, Gillian plays the rhythm guitar breaks, I never knew.
no, me either. awesome stuff.
All of them are complete musicians. And Peter and Gillian are very good singers (much better than Bernard) But I like Sumner singing out of tune, loosing his voice, I think very organic. New Order is - like Joy Division was - very special. Always will be
Yeah, after all of these decades of listening to New Order, I just now see that she plays guitar! They are a talented bunch.
NEVER EVER SHOULD SHE HAVE BEEN ALLOWED IN THE BAND!
@@beaware6487 fuck you
This track always brings me to tears.
It was a great gig! Me and my brother are stood in front of the keyboards. It was nice to get a invite for there first live performance since Ian died.
Great High Hat shuffling along, always love this song, "this is why events unnerve me....Ian Curtis brilliant Lyric Poet! Great band! I've heard most all your stuff, from Warsaw, Walked in Line, entire album, Joy Division, and saw you as New Order, in Santa Barbara, Ca. 1985
No matter what, New Order has been brilliant since, like,.. when they were still kids, here. Always loved this band!
So cute and young, sweet little puppies 🤗
one of my fav songs of all time...
Probably the worst performance of one of my most favorite songs.
It’s still amazing though.
What song is this
Forever has this and will this be my favorite musical group of any time. I love you all. God bless each and every one of you.
This must have been so hard for them to perform, so soon after Ian’s death. Hats off to them for continuing on with the music. RIP Ian Curtis. You are missed, and I hope you finally found your peace.
Celebration ,.to me is the perfect indie song. Written so early on, but was the template for so many bands. You can hear, the high, new fads, house of love, roses, lush..... They all came from this song
I think this was recorded on 23 April 1981. To give a bit of context, Ian Curtis had died on 18 May 1980, Gillian Gilbert had joined the group in October 1980, and there first album Movement would be released in November 1981, about seven months after this performance.
So this is very early New Order and Sumner is not yet an experienced singer, hence why he struggles. Hook and Morris were doing the same thing they had done in Joy Division, so they are giving a much needed stability to the group while Sumner finds his feet, and Gillian Gilbert picks up the slack as the guitarist.
I was really relieved when I got this 45 home and listened to it for the first time. There was something that remained, that persevered. Regardless of the content this song will always have a positive connotation for me.
these guys are so cool .. i just found them . imagine that !!
bob e Congrats!
Check out joy division, that was there first band.
bob e welcome to the fold! I'm a bigger NO fan than JD so I suggest you check out Substance first then work through the albums =) enjoy!
Guitar Tech (Warsaw) *their
I feel as though I’m about to cry listening to this song, sublime masterpiece
The guy dancing reminds me of the singer from Depeche Mode
will iams: So jealous that you were able to attend this live concert. I was freaking 10 years old and never allowed to listen to music other than classical or big band. This band has at times been my escape of pleasant memories.
He's got be top 100 Drummers at LEAST
One of best drummers ever hookey on bass brill
So much emotion in this performance .. beautiful
Absolute classic tune....
Stupendous band,long live new order,brought millions happiness
Never has a group with such meager talent produced such a body of great music.
The best description of New Order I've ever heard.
God damn it, I love how raw this performance is. Stephen Morris effing killing it on the drums. Bernard figuring out his voice. This song is probably one of my favorites by Joy Division/New Order. RIP Ian Curtis.
This song has defined who I am now. Hopefully I started something good!
Starting all over, with grieving. Gotta give it to them for pulling it together like they did. I garauntee, as much as a lot of people would love to say it would be it's easy, I know from personal experience it takes a while to pull your self back together. They're pretty amazing.
Timeless track. The audience look damn stylish too.
Dancing man is me time travelling back to this gig. That's how I dance
Worshipped these guys in high school.
Young men who knew life beyond their years and could play all their own instruments how times have changed!.
very very very very very very favorite! Thanks Ian for leaving this masterpiece for us!
this song is so ahead of it’s time. sounds like late 90s early 00s rock
That's because every band in the late 80's and early 90's wanted to sound like this, but the sound is definitely early 80's.
Such a great song, great video, great drummer everything about this is great
I saw them in Hollywood 1982 for the first time at Florentine Gardens. The place is / was an old roller skating rink ( I think ) that really wasn’t meant to have live music as the sound was horrible. No fault of New Order. I was disappointed but absolutely stoked to have been there to make the scene, meet new people, and run into ones you knew. To me Joy Division / New Order were the future! Which is why I tried to never miss a show whenever they came to town. Last time in … 2006-07? Up in Oakland before Peter Hook left. They’re not the most exciting band to see live but the music … hard to beat!
Superb.
More than the sum of its parts.
This is totally AWESOME! What memories this song brings to me. So fresh sounding this music transends time.....thank you for uploading! Cheers!
it never gets old... sounds perfect nowdays...
That pick up at 4:25 was when it all gelled-kudos!!
2:56 Ese tipo somos todos en este instante...
Viva Joy Division!!!!
The spirit of Curtis,vocal melody and words.
Amazing how the lads stepped up after Ian's death ..rough but brilliant
Beautiful 💕
For a band that has just lost a frontman, they sound and look very good
Ceremony is Joy Divion, whatching forever.
Bernard had just picked up the vocals around this time’ they had a change of name after Ian Curtis demise’ bernard became a very good singer trough out the years and New Order will always be a living legend
i actually was lucky enough to watch New Order twice in the space of 2 weeks recently , they were awesome
Technically speaking- it's a rather poor perfomance. But it's sincerity makes up for it. For me it's a reminder that music isn't about technique and skill, it's about sincerity & emotion. The fella who's getting lost in the music is a prime example to this.
Fuck yes!! you just took the words right outta my mouth! I personally love this! I can feel the raw emotion and how sad and angry they look, I mean it's only been 1 year since Ian died. they are all so strong to keep performing and to keep ians spirit alive!
Markito Well said.
But the drums are extremely good
drummer is always on point
Greatest. Comment. Ever.
Incredible. I have no words. Thank you.
I'm seeing Peter Hook and the Light tomorrow!
If only the audience knew what they were witnessing
No matter what, Peter will always be my favourite
Wow- this is magical!