@@stupidlogic2987i used to play drums a lot. I wouldn't want to play on coke. I like being sober and focused so i can play my best. With coke you're feeling too great to care about making mistakes. But everyone's playing style is different
I got to see New Order headline a show that had the Sugarcubes open and Public Image Ltd. in between. It was 1989, I was in early high school. A friend got us EXCELLENT seats. Dinar Örn wore a latex bathing cap. John Lydon opened his set with “Warrior.”
Apparently they had come up from south west England (a proper trek in those days) to central London that morning and arrived stressed out with moments to spare before they went live on national radio (Radio 1). By all accounts Bernard was a little, er, tense - as evidenced here. I wouldn't want to have been that orange foam mic cover that day.
He was/is actually a great guitarist - check out his playing in Joy Division. Very different sound and technique. Like Stephen the drummer, they totally changed their playing style after Ian's death.
This actually isn’t true. Those who say that Bernard Sumner couldn’t play are just retarded. Look at almost any JD/NO song, and he very clearly understands musical concepts.
Stephen Morris may well be the most underrated drummer in the known universe. His performance on this on for example is just epic... and as much as he's consistently on point, Bernard and Gilian fuck this one up big time. 😂
I remember seeing another upload of this where there were more obvious shots of Gillian raising her eyebrow/staring as Bernard messes things up or (as here around 3:30) deliberately slurs the lyrics. This session was done under a great deal of stress, hardware flaws and at very short notice etc.
In his book Fast Forward, Stephen described the session as both fantastic and hideous, and gloriously chaotic. Bernard was incandescent. The planned session had to abandoned due to technical problems, so Hooky and Stephen hastily put a set list together none of which Bernard felt like playing.
39 years later and that just blew me away - I always felt this was the very best New Order song after Blue Monday which was sadly so overplayed back in the day, but probably because it was so groundbreaking and amazing at the time?
I remember listening to this live. Barney was so pissed off with the neverending problems they had with the sound. You can see how angry he was on this.
Read in Steve Morris"s autobiography that they were going to do Blue Monday and perfect kiss together, but the technology let them down. They travelled from Devon on a bank holiday and got stuck in traffic most of the day. Arrived a few minutes before the session, and Bernard was not a happy man.
In Brazilian Portuguese we have an expression: "Na força do ódio" (meaning something like "with anger as a driving force"), and I think it describes perfectly this performance
exatamente KKKKKKKKKKKKKK mas ainda assim, amo new order, o bernard sumner nunca foi dos melhores em quesito de técnica, mas mesmo assim fazia ótimas canções
In English we often ask people who seem annoyed “who pissed in your cornflakes?” I really want to know who pissed in Bernard’s breakfast cereal before this performance😆
@@bigbowlowrong4694 I read in Hook's memoirs that they were late cos of traffic or something because they had been enjoying a great holiday or something. Hookie was pro-active and was there before the rest of the band. That's why Sumner is wearing shorts. Something like that.
Gillian looks like she's going to iron their clothes Bernard looks like he played tennis Stephen and Peter are the unstoppable and consistent ones here
@@gklansky31 It's not that she's a woman. It's the way she looks up from her iron when she realizes Bernard is slurring and rushing the lyrics on purpose. 3:31
The Gillian joke killed me! She really does look like she's gonna iron their clothes! 😭 As chaotic as this performance was, it still came out brilliant and beautiful. That's what makes music, emotion, drive, incoordination. New order even at the heat of the moment always pulls it off!
Yes, it was a hot summer day (hence the clothing) and I gather they'd had to drive to London from about Cornwall, got stuck in traffic and were late and pissed off. But if you want cold professionalism. then New Order are not your band. Their aggression makes this.
Oh, I'd thought this was a BBC Radio One performance (like, John Peel sessions) and had only been filmed for documentation purposes. Looks odd to be broadcasting something like this on tv.
@@louise_rose I think you are right. Usually when people claim in the TH-cam comments to have "been there," they are bs-ing in a weird, sociopathic attempt to get likes.
Hard to believe that this New Order BBC session went out live on both TV and radio as part of a BBC 2 music Marathon circa summer 1984 I remember watching and video taping parts of it .... Full promo video clips were shown including full length Meat loaf vids people must remember MTV was in its infancy and sattalite tv was not yet available so this Marathon was something to behold ... NO "Age of consent" classic 😎👍.
Satellite TV had already arrived, I remember watching both MTV, Sky Channnel and CNN from Sweden in 1983-84 (my home quarter was among the earliest test districts in the country for cable and regular satellite TV). We were also able to see West German TV, even a Soviet satellite channel! 🙂 Also, satellite marathon live broadcasts had been around since the 1970s - Rockpalast's all-night gigs from Germany for example. Or the Olympics. I really doubt that this half messed-up performance was broadcast live on TV. I think it's a BBC radio performance that was filmed just for documentation purposes.
New Order session went out from Broadcasting house BBC London as part of BBC 2 Rock around the clock ...25th August 1984 ... New Order session "Sooner than you think" "Age of consent" "Blue Monday" "In a lonely place" "Temptation" went out as a simulcast between BBC radio 1 and BBC 2 TV etc 😎👍 ....
I've seen hundreds of live bands, maybe in the thousands. I've seen them play bars, theatres, and drive ins. I've seen it all. But, this video with this band, during that time, is a MASTERPIECE of music. I would rank it in the top 3 all time best video's or musical moments in the history of music. It's not just the sounds, the voice, nor nothing specific. It's everything. Every piece, every note, everything was so perfect, that even Perfect is not a good word to describe it. That moment will live in infamy. By the way, I saw New Order in Dallas, Texas, and they sucked so bad, they got Booo'd off the stage and left within 3 songs. Think about that for a moment.
Saw them at the Hollywood Bowl and honestly enjoyed Pet shop boys performance more. New Order needs to stop altering their songs, and need to turn the fucking bass up!
A lot is happening in this video: 1. Stephen is killing the fcking drums like a robot 2. Bernard is a little bit angry and he's dressed like a tennis player 3. Peter is holding the bass in an impossible way, and he is doing the whole work 4. Gillian looks that she doesn't want to be in the band anymore. But this video is fire tho.
Read Stephen morris book volune 2 fast forward. Apparently they had spent hours programming all the drum machines and sequencers. Had a ridiculous drive up from st.Austell. and the floppy discs failed. Everything thry programmed didn’t work. You can dee their frustrations and Barney yelling faster to stephen. All the little looks of insecurity and panic
They had some kind of trouble with the wiring at the Beeb's studio, or something missing around their equipment here - the session was set up very fast. practically from one day to the next, and the logistics were kinda haphazard - that's the reason for the element of stress in this one. I don't recall all the specific details but there was some element of f''k-up around the hardware at this session. And they knew they wouldn't get to do any overdubs, these radio performances are meant to be "authentic live in the studio".
I wouldn't want the concert to sound like the record. saw them in 1983 and it was a disaster. but id rather see that then listen to Coldplay prestine boredom.
Some bands make it look so easy, but new order makes it look so hard
Hahaha
😂😅 and the song is basically 2 chords.
Sounds a lot like love will tear us apart,the drums and keys lol there copying themselves lol
"some bands make it look so easy, but new order makes it look so hard" hahahahahah yeah
Best comment ever haha
The drummer is on fire
Morris is my favorite drummer ever. Brilliant dude.
On fire or coke?
@@stupidlogic2987 haha both I guess
@@stupidlogic2987i used to play drums a lot. I wouldn't want to play on coke. I like being sober and focused so i can play my best. With coke you're feeling too great to care about making mistakes. But everyone's playing style is different
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I got to see New Order headline a show that had the Sugarcubes open and Public Image Ltd. in between. It was 1989, I was in early high school. A friend got us EXCELLENT seats. Dinar Örn wore a latex bathing cap. John Lydon opened his set with “Warrior.”
Bernie: “We might need a drum machine for this song.”
Stephen: “Oh yeah, hold my beer.”
Stephen is what drum machines wish they could be.
Despite Barney's mistakes and the bad sound quality, there's some kinda enchantment in this performance.
New order’s holy trinity : a human drum machine, a lead bassist and a very limited emotional singer
... And beauty in shadow on keys
Works
Gillian had such a huge effect on the music/sound. Don't discount her.
@@nategardner4120 I heard Gillian is the only one who knows how to program the sequencer. Tech Lead
Gillian Gilbert is the unsung member of new order
Bernard has the quietly seething energy of me going to work on a rainy day at 6am with a slight headache and stepping into a puddle up to my socks😆
Apparently they had come up from south west England (a proper trek in those days) to central London that morning and arrived stressed out with moments to spare before they went live on national radio (Radio 1). By all accounts Bernard was a little, er, tense - as evidenced here. I wouldn't want to have been that orange foam mic cover that day.
Well said sir
He always looks like he just learned how to play guitar.
Lol. Am not sure he ever got around to mastering it. 😅
He was/is actually a great guitarist - check out his playing in Joy Division. Very different sound and technique. Like Stephen the drummer, they totally changed their playing style after Ian's death.
to this day
This actually isn’t true. Those who say that Bernard Sumner couldn’t play are just retarded. Look at almost any JD/NO song, and he very clearly understands musical concepts.
You’re 100% correct {even though I love Bernard’s contributions & the fact that he exists}
Stephen Morris may well be the most underrated drummer in the known universe. His performance on this on for example is just epic... and as much as he's consistently on point, Bernard and Gilian fuck this one up big time. 😂
so many things happenning in this video, i love it
I remember seeing another upload of this where there were more obvious shots of Gillian raising her eyebrow/staring as Bernard messes things up or (as here around 3:30) deliberately slurs the lyrics. This session was done under a great deal of stress, hardware flaws and at very short notice etc.
Stephen Morris is my hero.
Hooky’s bass sounds like it was running through a frying machine recorded with a talkie walkie mic, mental !
It’s fucking awesome LOL
One of the best tracks recorded. The fact is is absolutely fuming really makes it for some reason.
In his book Fast Forward, Stephen described the session as both fantastic and hideous, and gloriously chaotic. Bernard was incandescent. The planned session had to abandoned due to technical problems, so Hooky and Stephen hastily put a set list together none of which Bernard felt like playing.
bernard is absolutely fuming
So is Stephen by the look of it
39 years later and that just blew me away - I always felt this was the very best New Order song after Blue Monday which was sadly so overplayed back in the day, but probably because it was so groundbreaking and amazing at the time?
I remember listening to this live. Barney was so pissed off with the neverending problems they had with the sound. You can see how angry he was on this.
The comments here are all gold. Great vid!
Read in Steve Morris"s autobiography that they were going to do Blue Monday and perfect kiss together, but the technology let them down.
They travelled from Devon on a bank holiday and got stuck in traffic most of the day. Arrived a few minutes before the session, and Bernard was not a happy man.
Hooky tells the same story in his book. They were not happy bunnies at that session.
@@paultomic8113 And Hooky also says that he got there on time but the others left it late to leave and copped the traffic !
In Brazilian Portuguese we have an expression: "Na força do ódio" (meaning something like "with anger as a driving force"), and I think it describes perfectly this performance
exatamente KKKKKKKKKKKKKK mas ainda assim, amo new order, o bernard sumner nunca foi dos melhores em quesito de técnica, mas mesmo assim fazia ótimas canções
In English we often ask people who seem annoyed “who pissed in your cornflakes?” I really want to know who pissed in Bernard’s breakfast cereal before this performance😆
@@bigbowlowrong4694 I read in Hook's memoirs that they were late cos of traffic or something because they had been enjoying a great holiday or something. Hookie was pro-active and was there before the rest of the band. That's why Sumner is wearing shorts. Something like that.
He sang much better after gingerly eliminating the pop filter of his mic
💯 now he's got a RAW sound
I fucking miss drummers like this. Fucking made reality of what 16-beat +, could do live today!!
Gillian looks like she's going to iron their clothes
Bernard looks like he played tennis
Stephen and Peter are the unstoppable and consistent ones here
The usual, then.
What makes it seem like shes about to iron their clothes other than that shes a woman?
@@gklansky31 It's not that she's a woman. It's the way she looks up from her iron when she realizes Bernard is slurring and rushing the lyrics on purpose. 3:31
@@gklansky31 because she play iron table not a keyboard
The Gillian joke killed me! She really does look like she's gonna iron their clothes! 😭 As chaotic as this performance was, it still came out brilliant and beautiful. That's what makes music, emotion, drive, incoordination. New order even at the heat of the moment always pulls it off!
I remember watching this the night it was broadcast.🎸🎹
Anger is an energy
sex is violence
Angst.
Let the road
The heart is a pump.
I could be wrong...
one of the best songs ever
One thing I like about New Order is that they always seem kind of irritable and annoyed. 😂
It's a excellent song ❤brilliant
Thursday i will go see them again, cant wait 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
hooky in the tank top makin me feel things
I remember watching this live on TV.
Wish I would have caught it back then. Would have changed my taste in music forever.
Yes, it was a hot summer day (hence the clothing) and I gather they'd had to drive to London from about Cornwall, got stuck in traffic and were late and pissed off. But if you want cold professionalism. then New Order are not your band. Their aggression makes this.
Oh, I'd thought this was a BBC Radio One performance (like, John Peel sessions) and had only been filmed for documentation purposes. Looks odd to be broadcasting something like this on tv.
@@louise_rose I think you are right. Usually when people claim in the TH-cam comments to have "been there," they are bs-ing in a weird, sociopathic attempt to get likes.
I love all forms of New Order even when they were shite. Made them human. Still does. Even shite they could express everything you felt BUT with them.
Greatest song ever recorded,Bernard had the major hump which he seemed to most times I saw NO 83-86
LOL..hardly
@@superorangeish lol ok lol . Weapon
A melhor banda do meu mundo!!!!
Came here just for the different keyboard track. My favorite version…
Hard to believe that this New Order BBC session went out live on both TV and radio as part of a BBC 2 music Marathon circa summer 1984 I remember watching and video taping parts of it .... Full promo video clips were shown including full length Meat loaf vids people must remember MTV was in its infancy and sattalite tv was not yet available so this Marathon was something to behold ... NO "Age of consent" classic 😎👍.
Satellite TV had already arrived, I remember watching both MTV, Sky Channnel and CNN from Sweden in 1983-84 (my home quarter was among the earliest test districts in the country for cable and regular satellite TV). We were also able to see West German TV, even a Soviet satellite channel! 🙂
Also, satellite marathon live broadcasts had been around since the 1970s - Rockpalast's all-night gigs from Germany for example. Or the Olympics.
I really doubt that this half messed-up performance was broadcast live on TV. I think it's a BBC radio performance that was filmed just for documentation purposes.
The moment where bernie takes out the foam out the mic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fabulous!!!
Stephen Morris is an absolute machine
Stephen Morris is unreal...
Stephen morris 😍
4:34 Hook is looking over like god damn bro
New Order session went out from Broadcasting house BBC London as part of BBC 2 Rock around the clock ...25th August 1984 ... New Order session "Sooner than you think" "Age of consent" "Blue Monday" "In a lonely place" "Temptation" went out as a simulcast between BBC radio 1 and BBC 2 TV etc 😎👍 ....
Bernard enjoying his rent boy look here...
A classic even to this day 10/2/22
Or 10/4/22
And 23rd October 2022
also 4/07/23
And 1/5/23 😘
And 5/29/2023
percussion perfection
Bernard becomes the sexually frustrated narrator of the song. Serendipity.
Bernard was hungover and running late
1984 was roasting. Hence the shorts
Yep I remember it well. I missed this though. Too busy throwing bricks at the police. Miners Strike
Never saw a live song without an error of barny
Alien on drums 👾👽
RIP mic cover...literally.
I've seen hundreds of live bands, maybe in the thousands. I've seen them play bars, theatres, and drive ins. I've seen it all. But, this video with this band, during that time, is a MASTERPIECE of music. I would rank it in the top 3 all time best video's or musical moments in the history of music. It's not just the sounds, the voice, nor nothing specific. It's everything. Every piece, every note, everything was so perfect, that even Perfect is not a good word to describe it. That moment will live in infamy.
By the way, I saw New Order in Dallas, Texas, and they sucked so bad, they got Booo'd off the stage and left within 3 songs. Think about that for a moment.
Yes, they were angry and frustrated and maybe more bands need that to get to the next level.
😱😱😱
I loved them in Seattle
Why do you think that happened?
Saw them at the Hollywood Bowl and honestly enjoyed Pet shop boys performance more. New Order needs to stop altering their songs, and need to turn the fucking bass up!
nice short 😆
My life
😍😍😍😍😍😍
Even Messi has a nightmare every now and then
- I know it's gonna be from VHS but somebody please put this whole thing up in 1080, my tape is worn out.
Whatever you call them you can't call them unoriginal or fakes
they say people who make metronomes use a stephen morris to see if it clicks on time
love from me to Sharston
A lot is happening in this video:
1. Stephen is killing the fcking drums like a robot
2. Bernard is a little bit angry and he's dressed like a tennis player
3. Peter is holding the bass in an impossible way, and he is doing the whole work
4. Gillian looks that she doesn't want to be in the band anymore.
But this video is fire tho.
There’s an amp that has SPERM written on it
sick
Read Stephen morris book volune 2 fast forward. Apparently they had spent hours programming all the drum machines and sequencers. Had a ridiculous drive up from st.Austell. and the floppy discs failed. Everything thry programmed didn’t work. You can dee their frustrations and Barney yelling faster to stephen. All the little looks of insecurity and panic
how do their records sound good but this performance is so atrocious i love it
They had some kind of trouble with the wiring at the Beeb's studio, or something missing around their equipment here - the session was set up very fast. practically from one day to the next, and the logistics were kinda haphazard - that's the reason for the element of stress in this one. I don't recall all the specific details but there was some element of f''k-up around the hardware at this session.
And they knew they wouldn't get to do any overdubs, these radio performances are meant to be "authentic live in the studio".
You can fix mistakes in the recording process
You’ve absolutely never set foot in a studio
I wouldn't want the concert to sound like the record. saw them in 1983 and it was a disaster. but id rather see that then listen to Coldplay prestine boredom.
Considering how poorly he did Love Vigilantes and this one in studio, it's no surprise that he's worse live.
What's with Barney's outfit? He looks like he should be a roadie for WHAM!
Barney is pissed!
The only way this high school level performance could have been improved is if the keyboard stand had collapsed.
Alan partridge shorts!
Those shortpants vibes...
Morris at the end of that was off!
Sumner sounds out of tune at the start because he is playing the wrong notes not because he was actually out of tune!
@@Ilovepotatoes22
He’s a bad lyricist/singer and uncharismatic frontman. I’m surprised he got to where he is
@@Ilovepotatoes22 they're a punk rock band...
@@McDoinky they're a punk rock band
@@jonathanlarkin7176
They’re punk rock like Ariana Grande is thrash metal
@@jonathanlarkin7176 How???
anger the truest emotion
looks like they are about to sleep 😄
GTA Online Kult FM 99.1
so angry……..
The winner of the high school band war is..... just kidding
If you wore shorts that tight, life would suck for you too.
autism be like
Showed up with a guitar really out tune
There may or may not have been significant quantities of cocaine involved in the making of this video.
出だしからいきなり音合ってなくてお茶きそうになったｗｗ
この頃のバーニーめちゃヘタだったんだな。
服装も変だしねw
One mistake every 15 seconds 😊
A band is only as good as its drummer...
Bernard is WASTED
also.... Stephen is the greatest drummer ever
You LOVE LUV LUV! that idea!!!!
Best worst performance ever
In sardo si dice... Mera callonuru? Tradotto.... Sempre molto a palle girate?
*[ sweet dreams are made of this ]*
Wtf is this
@Rayyan Ali that explains everything
Barney is hungover if u read Hooky book all is reveled about that day August 1984 at the BBC
@@MrOblocal13 it’s actually a funny story. They were so mad about it. Comes across here for sure! Lol
Chaos.
@@MrMansun95
I need to read that book. Love this band.
estan pasados de fallopa horrible
Jajajaja
Out of tune, out of time, out of this world.
Horrendous.
God my alltime favourite band but Barneys a crap singer and back then not much better guitarist 😂
Ну он научился правильно петь, только к Technique
Steven morris is a great drummer.
Morris is actually a drum machine pretending to be a drummer.
Who wears short shorts...barney wears short shorts...