I just bought the hybrid CRV and I LOVE it for my daily driver. Nothing too taxing, to and from daycare. Getting ~39mpgs in it so far. The few mpgs less than the rav weren't enough to be a deciding factor, and it's still way better than a nonhybrid. I love love love the electric drivetrain--I don't do a lot of fast highway driving, and it is so smooth. The driving position is also a lot more comfortable for me than the rav I test drove for whatever reason. I also have never changed a flat tire myself but I guess that's on me. Yes a few quibbles with the infotainment but not worse than my 2018 VW. Legroom and storage is amazing.
Remember that these reviews can be insightful but it's their opinion. Vehicles are very complex and everyone has different needs and preferences. A car review can't show you how well the interior fits your own body or translate how the suspension and powertrain feels to you. The world would be boring if there wasn't many choices.
Great to hear from someone who actually has one and can be objective! 😁 I bought my CR-V Hybrid in April and I LOVE it. I'm averaging 42 MPG combined, so not sure how everyone can complain about that. Plenty of power and fun to drive. Enjoy your CR-V Hybrid, Elise! 😁
trust me this infotainment system is not worse than my 2018 tacoma that I had before this vehicle. It could be worse. I love getting 40mpgs on the way to work or doing errands around town. Such a fun car to drive if you know how to use the paddles. Its so comfy inside too!
At what speed does the gas engine kick in..? We're looking for a 2020 for my wife... does alot of in town driving. But drives the "beltway " around the city... thanks
@@stevehinton5300 it kicks in around 45 given that the battery is at a good charge. What I have noticed is that it can get anywhere from 30-45 mpg in the city depending on how far you go stop light to stop light. This braking charges the battery which in turn gives you better gas mileage. I have not yet taken it on a roadtrip so idk how the mileage is there probably worse than city.
Love everything about the car, except for one MAJOR issue that strikes it from my short shopping list: no spare tire. I’ve been in trouble before: at night, in pouring rain, in the middle of nowhere and ran over a small object that blew the tire. Called for roadside and was told, “3-4 hours”. Changed it myself within 15 minutes and got home. All because I has a full-size spare.
@@davidalonso933 What do you mean by a “workaround”? You mean storing one elsewhere? You could add a rack on the roof and carry one there, but then the fuel savings of a hybrid would be lost and you may as well just get a non-hybrid, or do as my wife did: get a Rav4 hybrid. It has a compact spare, but the space also fits a full-size if you want to upgrade.
I bought the 2020 CRV hybrid and I love it. It's a smooth powertrain and stays in EV more than you'd think. That makes it quiet and smooth. Yes, when accelerating up a steep grade the generator can get noisy, but most of the time it's very quiet. If you don't compare it to the RAV4 and just take it on its own, 36-38 mpg combined is very good for the size of the vehicle (that's what I'm getting). I drove the RAV4 Hybrid before deciding to wait for the CRV Hybrid and I found the RAV a very good vehicle, but it also was very noisy when pressed hard. Part of me wishes I had waited for the RAV4 prime because my other car is a Clarity PHEV and I love the plug in aspect of it, but I just found the CRV bigger feeling and more comfortable. My wife drives the CRV and she loves it which is great for me because I get to upgrade the Clarity to a Nissan Aryia when it arrives :)
Having a spare tire, even one that is compact, is like having insurance; hopefully the need to utilize it is never necessary, but you're very thankful that you have it when that situation crops up. Honda should have figured out a way to provide something other than a tire repair kit.
Having a spare has saved my ass twice in the last year, both times resulting in the tire being non-repairable. Here in Texas there is construction everywhere, and people here don't know how to secure their truckbeds/trailers so there is debris on the road everywhere.
More then 1/2 of people don't know or are unable to fix a flat when they get one. In the rarity you do get one (assuming you have TPMS and maintain your tires properly) a fix a flat will typically do to get you where you need to go. I took my spare tire out of my 2019 RAV4 hybrid so I can have proper stereo in my car with subwoofers. Lots of extra storage space and and fix a flat. On long road trips I throw spare in the back. Good to go!
I realize the shortcomings the CR-V has with lower fuel economy than the RAV4, the dated entertainment screen being the top 2 I checked as negatives. The positives for me are the passenger room front and rear, mechanical AWD, and the still big cargo area. For me, and given my own personal use, if I had to choose a hybrid between the CR-V or RAV4, I would go with the Honda. I am willing to accept the negatives to gain the positives. The Ford Escape is a good crossover hybrid as well, but I would go with the CR-V anyway. Thanks for the review Alex. I appreciate real world tests that are consistent and don't mark cars badly for things that do not really matter, and the fact there is no bad language. It does make a difference to me. Any more microwave and bacon cook tests coming soon?
We checked Toyota Venza: absolutely no head room on both of the seats. Didn't even test-drive. Ford Escape: I drove ford c-max for 6 years. No problems at all! Super reliable, hybrid system is excellent.
We've had two Prius Hybrid cars. We now have a Honda Clarity which shares a lot of things with this CRV (we also once had a CRV which we loved) so we are quite familiar with it even if we haven't seen one first person. This CRV looks pretty nice and I'd be tempted to buy one for the higher seating position and larger cargo space. Overall I would choose the Rav4 hybrid over this but there is a problem with either of them for me. As we've owned the Honda Clarity PHEV for 2 1/2 years we really like the car but there is one outstanding feature that most won't understand until they also have this feature; that is charging at home. I would not want to give that up again so our future is either full EV or PHEV. The ability to pull into the garage (sorry for those that don't have one) spend less than 10 seconds plugging the car in, and never have to go to a gas station is immeasurably wonderful. No standing outside in the heat/cold/wind/rain to fiddle with the pump. No being tied to gas price changes. We charge only with our house roof solar. I would suggest taking at look at the new Rav4 Prime PHEV if you can stomach the increased cost of it. For me the Rav4 PHEV with a spare tire is very attractive. I'm really looking forward to Honda coming out with a CRV PHEV, hoping that it has at least 50 miles of EV range.
I can drive to work one route and it gets 40 mpg and another route that has a little bit higher speed limits and the mpgs go down to 35 and i can imagine when we go on a road trip that it will be like driving a normal car which is fine. The electrical part is for around town and to and from work and the gas engine comes in handy on road trips even if it sacrifices mpgs...its still a compact SUV
Hry Alex love your videos, very informative and detailed. I purchased a CRV Hybrid, based partially on your videos on the vehicle. I have to say, though I do baby the throttle, I average between 40 and 41 mpg. My commute is around 55 miles round trip and mainly highway. So I feel the CRV Hybrid doesn't get the respect the RAV4 does. I hope it lives up to Honda quality. Thanks again for the great vidas.
The trim comparisons don’t mention that the ex-l gets power liftgate. Also the average of 40 and 18 is not 23. Braking distance says 115 in the video, but Alex says 120. The hwy/city mpg are reversed. An off day for A on A. Good to know even the best can make mistakes! 👍
My family had a 2001 Honda Odyssey EX (similar to the Toyota Sienna) and a 2002 Honda CRV LX a very long time ago with lower auto insurance for both cars. Safety precautions are safe and smooth, and those vehicles run really well. Contains additional legroom, steering wheels are really comfortable, and leather seats are comfortable. Never had a major issue for Honda. Only when the tire pressure is really low, which is a minor issue.
I agree with the comments regarding the spare tire. I had a flat with my Ford Fusion Hybrid and the fix Alta impress was useless since I had damaged the side wall on road debris. Fortunately, I was not in the middle of nowhere, but still had to have the car towed to the dealer for a new tire and wheel repair. I liked the car a lot, but ultimately decided that if my wife was going to take trips in it, she would need a car with a spare tire. Traded it for a Volvo S60.
Alex, I think for most people looking at cars in these segments, it comes down to high affordability and reliability with low depreciation. Considering this is the vehicle keeping Honda in business, the fact they accept things like the 1.5L turbo motor, seat belt placement in the rear center roof, and the slow infotainment, are ridiculous. They've had enough generations to perfect this thing and lower costs. None of these companies should have flaws in their vehicles at this point.
Honda has the better AWD System then the Toyota, but doesn't get the better MPG. Looks very nice in that color. Since this is their first time doing a hybrid with the CRV, it can only get better from here. Great review Alex. I wonder if they'd do a Passport Hybrid in the future...
Driving sport tv tested it off-road on mild mountain trails and the RAV4 Hybrid performed better on the same trail. Not much more use than better traction in inclement weather. No specific off road setting like the RAV.
Acura has had the MDX Hybrid for a few years now. The MDX shares its platform with the Pilot/Passport. For some reason, Honda has never offered that drivetrain from the MDX even though it’s clearly possible.
@@robbilton9006 Driving Sport TV may have had that result, but if you watch the review from TFL Review where they put both on the rollers, the RAV-4 does TERRIBLE. If a AWD system can't pass a roller test then it's not worth getting.
@@atmartens true, but they've not taken the Honda on the rollers yet. The DST video did price that you needed revs to get the back going and the TFL guys are all about the Rock crawling (apart from Nathan lol). Alex has pointed this rev thing out in the original rav4 Hybrid review.
Dec. 2020 Comparison between the CRV vs RAV4. Both beautiful hybrids. But if you are NOT tall.... my wife is about 5'4" & I am about 5' 6". The RAV 4 front seats are TOO low for both of us. The CRV is much much better. Seats are higher up front and the dashboard is not as "rounded" as the RAV 4, making it harder to see over..plus the RAV 4 Info system sits up "high" as opposed to the CRV! This is in regard to both vehicles having power seats. Great video Alex!!!!!!
Seems like your steering people to the RAV , let me point out some key factors 1. Interior comfort / roomieness ex-l trim level genuine leather CRV is clearly the winner 2. Real offroad capability / winter CRV clearly the winner 3. Battery CRV lithium ion ,RAV nickel hydride CRV clearly the winner 4. Price considerably lower .
I had a tire blowout 2 months ago on the highway. 20 minutes to put on the spare and I'm back on the road. If I'm buying a hypercar then no spare is fine but not for a daily driver.
Good point. And for those who say, "I'll just call AAA" then good luck when the service patrol truck comes by and asks where's your spare. Next thing you know, they have to call in a flatbed to get your car out to a shop. Cross your fingers they have the tire you need available, then you'll be out in just a half day from start to finish, else be prepared to leave your vehicle overnight while you find some other way to get around. Quite a nightmare to deal with, especially right now with Covid situation I would do everything possible to ensure you have what you need on you to get on your way.
Thanks, I'll go for the CRV touring looks better in my opinion. Passenger seat adjustment style and real awd are the main reasons. Plus I already have a Honda so better trade in value.
How can they put out an all-new hybrid and still equip it with that ancient infotainment? Are the Accord, Pilot, and Odyssey the only ones worthy of having it?
LoveStallion Agreed! The Civic and HRV also have it. The Passport and Ridgeline have the new infotainment system like the Accord, Pilot, and Odyssey; however, a new generation Civic is due next year and will almost certainly get the updated infotainment system.
Most Autos have poor infotainments. Poor screen quality, glossy, forced to use limited android auto/apple car play. Aftermarket android decks that have all the features of android phones are far superior. Wireless carplay/android auto, screen mirroring and customizable apps from Play Store.
Pikminiman Yea, that’s true but you can’t have it all. If you run into tire problem you can easily fix that with tire repair kit, there are advance ones now. Moreover, good tires would hardly have any problems and if you change them in due course. The Cr-v has mechanical AWD which is a better terrain drivable than that of Toyota, it has better handling and corners really well. I hope I have convinced you enough...lol. I will chose cr-v because of the purpose I will use it for, fuel efficiency is not that much different from Toyota hybrid. Well, that’s what I think. Enjoy ☺️
@@asiamahatta2700 : When I have needed my spare tire (about once every two years), I have been hours away from the nearest town, and my tire was shredded far beyond the capability of any repair kit to fix. Moreover, because I live out in the desert, almost all of my driving happens at 75-80 MPH, so the difference in fuel efficiency is enormous. I sincerely hope you enjoy your CR-V Hybrid, but it's just not feasible for my use case.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 : In city driving, sure, they're basically comparable. But the difference at 75-80 MPH is enormous. Alex addresses this in the video.
Have You driven the escape? I have a RAV4 and my lease expired. I just assumed I would purchase another, but I drove it and a friend told to try the escape. I was shocked. It rode better, was quieter and handled better. Bought one on the spot. So, if you haven’t tried one, don’t judge.
@@jt-eb4spI am comparing CRV to RAV4. NOT RAV4 to the escape. omg judger. I wouldn't buy the escape just for one simple fact , the resale value sucks. Toyota is the best in resale value and reliability. i guess you haven't tried to sell ford cars.
@@rann7588 and Ford has an endless reputation for being unreliable...... I wouldn't touch the Ford Escape hybrid or any other Fords with a ten foot pole!
"It has the same engine set up as the Accord Hybrid". Which from my understanding the 2.0L Naturally aspirated engine and lack of a transmission means the hybrid will be more reliable and outlast the standard 1.5T CR-V versions. When comparing a similarly equipped 1.5T CR-V AWD model - to the 2.0L hybrid it is only around $1200 more. Longer lasting, better gas millage for $1200 more. We bought one last month - but shortages made it a pain to get. I hope Honda sometime in the next year or two releases a Plug-In Hybrid version.
I’m waiting to drive the new Toyota Venza hybrid. The interior styling and infotainment system are a level above the other small SUV’s that are currently on the market.
Obviously as far as the current crop is concerned it's a contest primarily between the RAV4 and the CR-V with the Escape Hybrid trailing the two leaders. In terms of brands I'm somewhat prejudiced toward Honda over Toyota vehicles.Each has its strong points and weaknesses but I have to admit that the RAV4 takes the prize in that comparison. If the RAV4 Prime were in the mix, the gap would be even greater but since that vehicle is unavailable for up to a couple of years, or so, I see it as nothing more than a marketing ploy designed to boost sales of the current RAV4 Hybrid and put the brakes on the sale of other plug-in hybrids. I actually prefer the looks of the Escape Hybrid to either the CR-V and the RAV4. I haven't examined it closely, though, and Ford's choices in terms of cost cutting (especially in their interiors) make me somewhat hesitant about the overall package. Bottom line. Having owned two KIA Sorentos that have given my family unfailingly great service in a Goldilocks size (about 8"-10" longer the compact crossover category) I'd be waiting to see what the hybrid version of the KIA has to offer.
Impressive and the right tech to fix what’s probably the worst part of most SUVs; fuel economy. VW and a few others should really look at making there’s available here as well.
The mpg is appealing but missing a spare tire, pano roof and 360° cam at least as options is a disappointment. I don’t know when it’s due for a redesign but this generation of CR-V looks like it should be on its way out.
I wish Honda would use a different hybrid system. A serial hybrid just won’t be all that efficient at higher speeds. Planetary hybrids and even Hyundai’s sorta pancake motor between the engine and transmission are much better at efficiency. Hyundai’s system may not be as robust, but it delivers in terms of fuel economy. Planetary systems are incredibly robust due to simplicity and are still very efficient
Would have gone with the Escape but the CRV interior feels more roomy. As new grandparent, it was also important to get child seat in and out with ease .. so that became more important over highway mileage. Bonus was the "nanny mirror" from the sunglasses storage drop. If I get concerned about no spare, I'll lay a compact or full size spare in the back.
I have a RAV4 lease which is expiring. I assumed I would just purchase another. A friend told me to drive the ford, and I did. It was much quieter, very nice ride and superior handling and road feel. I left Toyota and want ford.
Alex, I'm with you, liking the Rav4 better. After owning a few honda hybrids cars, I cannot drive faster than 70mph, or the gas mileage will down like you said many times. When driving my 2020 Insight EX 60-65 mph, behind semi trucks or other slow cars on freeways, usually on the slow lane, I'm getting 56-60 mpg. Accord Hybrid whether is current or previous model, offers fast takeoff and great power but suffered in mpg. The 2012 Insight was slow to takeoff but it was good in mpg, except the auto-stop feature, which was awful in hot days. Civic Hybrid had a good mpg but has the worst braking in the whole wild world.
The deciding factor for me between the two was that toyota was marking up every rav4 hybrid by $2500. Went with the CRV EXL which feels nicer on the inside and averages me about 38mpg in mixed and hilly driving.
Another great review. Thank you. We just got done renting a toyota rav4 and found it to be one of the worst modern cars we have ever driven. The power was lacking, doors sound cheap when closing and the back interior hatch handle came off in my hand when trying to close the door. We now understand why it is rated so low in CR.
Alex, You #agonized over your rankings but in the end you, quite rightly, put the RAV4 Hybrid on top. Sometimes when a manufacturer says 0 tow rating I think they are bluffing but in this case I would be very worried about that over-stressed Honda engine literally blowing up in pieces on the side of the road. Better luck next time CR-V and for gosh sakes bring a spare ;)
Many car models including most luxury cars do not include a spare tire nor have a place a store one. If you need to tow, a hybrid is just not your best choice, regardless of manufacturers recommended towing.
Thanks for helping me decide. The RAV 4 is my choice I wish the RAV 4 had a flat laying cargo. However considered I love a Spare. (I plan to take long trips) A spare is kind of a must. Speed doesn't matter much for me. Extra 2mpg is nicer. But things looking fairly equal I will take the spare Tire and the center seat belt thing vs flat deck and 1" knee space. RAV 4 is my choice. I'm getting a 2021 XLE with all the options. (Not a fan of the two tone XSE) I know no leatheret seats but that's ok for me.
The RAV4 fuel tank issue along with its other issues like 12v battery drain etc. is why I’m looking for alternatives. If wasn’t for that I’d say RAV4. If they offer hybrid version of the Bronco Sport I’d probably get that over all of these.
The clutch that connects the rear axle seems to be too weak to put enough power in more demanding situations. It is better on flat gravel, but the AWD as a whole system is rather average. "Driving Sports" YT channel showed that on his off-road tests.
Looking at the comments, there’s a lot of mistakes in this video (MPG CITY/HWY, regular CRV 0-60 comparison, etc.). C’mon Alex, you’re better than that!
@@henryhonda8408 I use Michelin Defenders. I haven't needed a spare. TPM lets you know when pressure is 24. Plenty of time to get the tire repaired or replaced. An aftermarket hitch is available for smaller loads. Otherwise I use my Dodge Cummins.
Good video as per usual and I agree that RAV4 hybrid is better but issue with Toyota is the extremely high MSRP and if you finance it interest rate is crazy high.
Im not saying the rav4 is perfect but Heres what u cant get on the crv that u can get rav4 hybrid/ pano sunroof/ rear heated seats/ front cooled seats/ adaptive headlights/ a spare tire/ an updated infotainment system/ and no name brand sound system/btw the wood trim in the crv is not good
Kevin Morrow it’s not anything special, Honda has never made hybrids reliably. I hope you enjoy it now and get rid of it after the warranty. Honda has never been as good as Toyota with the hybrid battery packs. I’d take an escape over this any day. Older 2006 escape hybrids are used as taxis and easily do 300k with no battery issues. Ford and Toyota know how to keep these battery packs cooled and controlled for longevity.
@@juvibro9913 thank you for your advice. I had a 2007 CR-V which accumulated 394,000 miles in 7 years. No, it wasn't a hybrid, but it sure as hell was reliable and dependable with no major problems the entire time I owned it. I will give my new CR-V Hybrid the benefit of the doubt and will reserve judgement given it's own merits in time. My friend has an Accord Hybrid that currently has approximately 250,000 miles and it's been quite reliable, again with no major problems. My family have owned Honda vehicles since 1990, with no major repairs ever having been required. If you take care of a Honda, it will take care of you (i.e., don't drive like a bat out of hell and keep the oil changed). Again, thank you for the advice. I will take it under advisement. Stay safe and be blessed!! 😁
I am somewhat surprised you didn't compare it to the Nissan Rogue, at least in terms of size. I understand the Rogue will have a hybrid version coming out again at some point. If I recall, the Rogue Hybrid of two years ago also had a mechanical AWD system.
This crap with increasing their profit by not providing a spare tire. I'm sure we all want to sit on the curb in the rain or snow repairing a tire. I've also heard that I can have my car towed to the dealer where they can 5x the price of a new tire along with the cost of the tow. All auto sellers who pull this crap can scam someone else. I want a spare, even if it's only a temporary spare.
Yes. In our area we can be out of cell service, on mountain roads, and in the rain easily. Any time we leave town we toss the spare we bought into our Honda Clarity. This business of no spare is not good. Imagine having a flat on a Saturday night. Call for Honda and they will tow you to the nearest Honda dealer where they will gladly service your car Monday morning. In the mean time you call for a cab to take you home or to a hotel. No thanks. I'll go for the 15 minute tire change with the spare I bought.
Anyone wondering which is more capable AWD go watch The Fast Lane Car. Rav4 AWD is pretty lame and often doesn't work as it should. Sure you get 2 more ish MPG, but the Honda can do more off the pavement.
You are correct, the standard gasoline powered CRV with the 1.5L Turbo does 0-60mph in 7.3 seconds according to Alex’s last review. Hope he acknowledges that mistake and corrects it in this video.
I have to ask - in the acceleration test, did you use ECON, NORMAL, or SPORT mode? Because it is a serial hybrid, the CR-V can have almost instant, maximum torque response. Since that isn't efficient, ECON and NORMAL will artificially dampen its response. That's why, with the same drive trains in the Accord and Camry hybrids, the Accord wins the acceleration test. (Car & Driver, 7.1 to 7.9 seconds. Motor Trend, 6.7 to 7.4, Consumer Reports, 7.4 to 7.8; but CR always gets less out of Hondas and more out of Toyotas than other reviewers do.) In my opinion, your emphasis on horsepower is misplaced. No car "has" its full hp at slow speeds. A BEV or serial HEV will have its maximum torque up until it becomes power limited (i.e., where MAXTRQ*RPM=5252*MAXHP). An ICEV or parallel HEV will have something less than its maximum torque up to that point. While these numbers are complicated by how the ICE and MGs are integrated, there is no way the RAV4 should feel "peppier" below where it reaches maximum power. It has a much lower maximum torque, and doesn't achieve it until 3600 rpm.
hmmm, 71.5 dB noise level u say is the lowest of the CR-V's, but back when it was new model, the '17 was at 70 dB, if i recall correctly? I assume u r still using the same measuring equipment since then?
"During our testing, the front-drive (Equinox 1.6t diesel)model was put through Real MPG's evaluations, and the results were an impressive 33.1/46.7 mpg, making this oil-burning family car one of the most fuel-efficient crossovers we've tested." Motor Trend
The Equinox is no longer made with a Diesel and its EPA rating was 28 city/39 hwy, with 28/38 for the AWD version. Whatever circuit they used, they used a FWD version and you’d have to compare either both EPA ratings or both Motor Trend circuit ratings.
We love our 2018 Accord Hybrid (touring). We were hoping to switch to a CRV Hybrid when available, to get a higher driving position, more cargo space, and towing capacity - without taking too bad a hit on gas mileage. But this CR-V is very disappointing. Mediocre mileage, crappy infotainment, no HUD, no towing, no seat cooling, no room for a spare tire!? No thanks! Venza, maybe?
Btw, u have a great personality, defo not without one! I see that the 40mpg one way, & 18 the other, wasn't constant, or u'd have avg'd 29. So at 23, yeah, that's pretty baaad for such a honda. I'm quite disappointed w/ them for this level of performance.
Was all for getting this until I saw that it has the old infotainment system. I've got the latest one in my 2019 accord hybrid and its night and day different than this old one. Why in the world would they still use the old one??? Deal breaker, this car is now out of consideration.
Can’t believe there aren’t more comments about this. There’s no way a 40 mpg going one direction and an 18 mpg the other direction average out to 23! 😂
The killer for me is the cargo space. We have a Gen3 CRV now and it would have more space than this model. So the decision is simple for us. We will stay with the ICE CRV as the RAV4 is just too expensive for the same trim levels. The change from the old K24 engine to the newer L15T will save fuel for us anyhow so sacrificing any cargo space is just not worth it to us. Good review though Andy! Thanks!
No panoramic sunroof? Good news! I won't buy a vehicle with a panoramic sunroof - I don't need leaks and electro-mechanical complexity. I also have concerns about safety in the event of an accident.
I think it's pretty apparent the 2.0 NA engine in this isn't strong enough for a vehicle this heavy at highway speeds. Toyota's decision to invest in a new 2.5 NA engine looks pretty smart right now because Honda's only choice looks to be putting in a turbo in their hybrids like Hyundai/Kia is doing with a 1.6T for the Santa Fe and Sorento. It's gotta be direct injection, of course, so oil dilution may be a problem for hybrids designed to use the ICE as little as possible. I'm going to assume the Tuscon hybrid will use the 2.0 NA hybrid found in the Sonata which will be slower than the RAV4 HV but it's also smaller than the RAV4/CR-V.
If they put in a turbo then you have to deal with oil dilution problems that Honda still hasn’t properly addressed. Not to mention complaints of ac compressor failures and transmission issue.
Sure, but unless Honda redesigns their hybrid systems for a second time to put in an actual transmission, they're going to need to put in a bigger engine to match the speed and efficiency of Toyota's system in their larger vehicles. I mean, what is Honda going to do if they decide to make a hybrid version of the Passport or Pilot? They don't have a larger I-4 to put in there like Toyota so it'll be either a small turbo or a detuned V-6?
Daniel Cheng I don’t think Honda is looking to get into the Hybrid game too much. They release a fuel cell, plug-in or hybrid car here and there, just as compliance vehicles. They don’t seem to be sold on any one tech just yet.
No spare tired that's sucks !!! I have a BMW 328 and I found out it doesn't have a spare tired when I had flat tired I was so mad at those German's O boy .
I really hate mine, I rarely get 35mil/g, very slow when going uphill my engine is screaming! Good with snow driving though. I hope they will upgrade the engine
Alex where did you get the RAV4 photo at 18:20? It has limited model grill and door handles but has the 18” chrome wheels. Similar to black wheels on XSE model. Is this a photo of the PRIME?
If you drive conservatively under the speed limit a little bit then you can easily get 40-45 my avg ranges anywhere from 35-45 and that's also driving on 40-50 mph roads mostly and idling in traffic at lights. If you drive aggressively you will lose massive amounts of efficiency. If you turn off eco mode you will lose mpgs. if you don't use the paddles you will lose mpgs...if you don't use ev mode through parking lots when power is available you will lose mpgs.
Well... yes and no. I drive the Accord hybrid, so some details might differ in amount. But not the conclusions. I definitely lose mpg above about 65 mph. But between 40 and 65 it is pretty consistent, whether above or below the speed limit. On a 45 mile trip from Central Maryland to Arlington, VA on Sunday (mostly speeds 50 to 65 mph, but some up to 75) I got 61 mpg with no special "hypermiling" tricks. It is aggressive driving (i.e., changing speeds a lot) that is the killer. ECON (is my car the only one with an "N" on the button?) mode doesn't do much over "normal" mode, except make it harder to drive aggressively. SPORT changes the optimization strategy, to enable more aggressive driving. The paddles are misunderstood. There is no need to use them, if you train yourself to use the brakes. I like to distinguish between braking (using the brake pedal) and coasting (releasing the accelerator pedal). The paddles only affect coasting. You can get the exact same regen using braking, as long as you don't exceed the capability of the system. The paddles can help you learn when it is exceeded, by trying to use them alone occasionally. But my biggest point here, is that the only effect the EV Mode button has on mpg is to reduce it. Charge isn't "free energy," it comes from gas by using the engine. And it incurs more loss, due to electrical conversion. If EV Drive is appropriate in a parking lot, the car will choose it by itself. If you push the button when the car would not choose it, the engine has to run harder when it turns back on, to replace that charge.
@@jeffjo8732 I don't disagree with what you are saying but it depends on your routes also. My routes have gotten me up to 49 mpg and that's driving conservatively. I let my wife drive it and she didn't use the paddles at all and she got worse mpgs granted I always get worse mpgs according to the trip computer if we idle at dr offices and stores and stuff however my gas tank tells the story of "holy shit this is the best gas mileage I have ever gotten on any car ever let alone a compact SUV" so I am not complaining about my results I am mostly complaining about the reviews because I know those guys are not using eco mode(which does help with mpgs) and they have heavy feet.
@@jeffjo8732 all I know about the paddles is they allow you to glide down hills and glide to stop lights while charging the battery. If I optimize the right areas to use them I always get better mpgs
@@Odinarcade00 What you may not realize is that the brake pedal uses regen as well. But once you push a certain level, it blends in friction brakes. If you can learn to "glide" the sa me way with the pedal, you will get the same mpg.
I just bought the hybrid CRV and I LOVE it for my daily driver. Nothing too taxing, to and from daycare. Getting ~39mpgs in it so far. The few mpgs less than the rav weren't enough to be a deciding factor, and it's still way better than a nonhybrid. I love love love the electric drivetrain--I don't do a lot of fast highway driving, and it is so smooth. The driving position is also a lot more comfortable for me than the rav I test drove for whatever reason. I also have never changed a flat tire myself but I guess that's on me. Yes a few quibbles with the infotainment but not worse than my 2018 VW. Legroom and storage is amazing.
Remember that these reviews can be insightful but it's their opinion. Vehicles are very complex and everyone has different needs and preferences. A car review can't show you how well the interior fits your own body or translate how the suspension and powertrain feels to you. The world would be boring if there wasn't many choices.
Great to hear from someone who actually has one and can be objective! 😁 I bought my CR-V Hybrid in April and I LOVE it. I'm averaging 42 MPG combined, so not sure how everyone can complain about that. Plenty of power and fun to drive. Enjoy your CR-V Hybrid, Elise! 😁
trust me this infotainment system is not worse than my 2018 tacoma that I had before this vehicle. It could be worse. I love getting 40mpgs on the way to work or doing errands around town. Such a fun car to drive if you know how to use the paddles. Its so comfy inside too!
At what speed does the gas engine kick in..? We're looking for a 2020 for my wife... does alot of in town driving. But drives the "beltway " around the city... thanks
@@stevehinton5300 it kicks in around 45 given that the battery is at a good charge. What I have noticed is that it can get anywhere from 30-45 mpg in the city depending on how far you go stop light to stop light. This braking charges the battery which in turn gives you better gas mileage. I have not yet taken it on a roadtrip so idk how the mileage is there probably worse than city.
Love everything about the car, except for one MAJOR issue that strikes it from my short shopping list: no spare tire. I’ve been in trouble before: at night, in pouring rain, in the middle of nowhere and ran over a small object that blew the tire. Called for roadside and was told, “3-4 hours”. Changed it myself within 15 minutes and got home. All because I has a full-size spare.
@@afcgeo882 looks like I replied to the wrong video, that's unfortunate if there is no spare at all
That concerns me too. Is there a workaround to not having a spare tire? I believe KIA has their spare tire under the car for the Sorento Hybrid.
@@davidalonso933 What do you mean by a “workaround”? You mean storing one elsewhere? You could add a rack on the roof and carry one there, but then the fuel savings of a hybrid would be lost and you may as well just get a non-hybrid, or do as my wife did: get a Rav4 hybrid. It has a compact spare, but the space also fits a full-size if you want to upgrade.
@@afcgeo882 yeah there really isn’t any other solution I guess. That’s been my one concern with the hybrid.
You could get a spare and keep it in the cargo area. Not a good solution, but it is a solution.
I bought the 2020 CRV hybrid and I love it. It's a smooth powertrain and stays in EV more than you'd think. That makes it quiet and smooth. Yes, when accelerating up a steep grade the generator can get noisy, but most of the time it's very quiet. If you don't compare it to the RAV4 and just take it on its own, 36-38 mpg combined is very good for the size of the vehicle (that's what I'm getting). I drove the RAV4 Hybrid before deciding to wait for the CRV Hybrid and I found the RAV a very good vehicle, but it also was very noisy when pressed hard. Part of me wishes I had waited for the RAV4 prime because my other car is a Clarity PHEV and I love the plug in aspect of it, but I just found the CRV bigger feeling and more comfortable. My wife drives the CRV and she loves it which is great for me because I get to upgrade the Clarity to a Nissan Aryia when it arrives :)
Having a spare tire, even one that is compact, is like having insurance; hopefully the need to utilize it is never necessary, but you're very thankful that you have it when that situation crops up. Honda should have figured out a way to provide something other than a tire repair kit.
Agreed. This CRV Hybrid is clearly a retrofit rather than a ground up design.
Having a spare has saved my ass twice in the last year, both times resulting in the tire being non-repairable. Here in Texas there is construction everywhere, and people here don't know how to secure their truckbeds/trailers so there is debris on the road everywhere.
More then 1/2 of people don't know or are unable to fix a flat when they get one. In the rarity you do get one (assuming you have TPMS and maintain your tires properly) a fix a flat will typically do to get you where you need to go. I took my spare tire out of my 2019 RAV4 hybrid so I can have proper stereo in my car with subwoofers. Lots of extra storage space and and fix a flat. On long road trips I throw spare in the back. Good to go!
My 2020 Rav4 hybrid has a full size spare tire.
just use you android/apple aplications, plug in or wireless and forget about infotainment stsem in a car. Oh and focus on road then ;)
It's hard to believe, but A on A keeps getting better!
I like the calmness in his voice. Which is kind of soothing to the soul.
I realize the shortcomings the CR-V has with lower fuel economy than the RAV4, the dated entertainment screen being the top 2 I checked as negatives. The positives for me are the passenger room front and rear, mechanical AWD, and the still big cargo area. For me, and given my own personal use, if I had to choose a hybrid between the CR-V or RAV4, I would go with the Honda. I am willing to accept the negatives to gain the positives. The Ford Escape is a good crossover hybrid as well, but I would go with the CR-V anyway.
Thanks for the review Alex. I appreciate real world tests that are consistent and don't mark cars badly for things that do not really matter, and the fact there is no bad language. It does make a difference to me.
Any more microwave and bacon cook tests coming soon?
Glad I bought the Rav 4 Toyota has 20 years experience making hybrids
Russell Condie fuel tank issue
@@blackwhirlwind1245 I own 2019 RAV4 hybrid XSE. No fuel tank issue. Fills to FULL on first click, topping up goes well past FULL.
Honda has twenty+ years making hybrids too.
We checked Toyota Venza: absolutely no head room on both of the seats. Didn't even test-drive.
Ford Escape: I drove ford c-max for 6 years. No problems at all! Super reliable, hybrid system is excellent.
We've had two Prius Hybrid cars. We now have a Honda Clarity which shares a lot of things with this CRV (we also once had a CRV which we loved) so we are quite familiar with it even if we haven't seen one first person. This CRV looks pretty nice and I'd be tempted to buy one for the higher seating position and larger cargo space. Overall I would choose the Rav4 hybrid over this but there is a problem with either of them for me.
As we've owned the Honda Clarity PHEV for 2 1/2 years we really like the car but there is one outstanding feature that most won't understand until they also have this feature; that is charging at home. I would not want to give that up again so our future is either full EV or PHEV.
The ability to pull into the garage (sorry for those that don't have one) spend less than 10 seconds plugging the car in, and never have to go to a gas station is immeasurably wonderful. No standing outside in the heat/cold/wind/rain to fiddle with the pump. No being tied to gas price changes. We charge only with our house roof solar.
I would suggest taking at look at the new Rav4 Prime PHEV if you can stomach the increased cost of it. For me the Rav4 PHEV with a spare tire is very attractive.
I'm really looking forward to Honda coming out with a CRV PHEV, hoping that it has at least 50 miles of EV range.
Agreed
Good luck getting RAV4 Prime. Already backordered bigtime and Toyota making very limited amounts for emission compliance.
I can drive to work one route and it gets 40 mpg and another route that has a little bit higher speed limits and the mpgs go down to 35 and i can imagine when we go on a road trip that it will be like driving a normal car which is fine. The electrical part is for around town and to and from work and the gas engine comes in handy on road trips even if it sacrifices mpgs...its still a compact SUV
Hry Alex love your videos, very informative and detailed. I purchased a CRV Hybrid, based partially on your videos on the vehicle. I have to say, though I do baby the throttle, I average between 40 and 41 mpg. My commute is around 55 miles round trip and mainly highway. So I feel the CRV Hybrid doesn't get the respect the RAV4 does. I hope it lives up to Honda quality. Thanks again for the great vidas.
The trim comparisons don’t mention that the ex-l gets power liftgate. Also the average of 40 and 18 is not 23. Braking distance says 115 in the video, but Alex says 120. The hwy/city mpg are reversed. An off day for A on A. Good to know even the best can make mistakes! 👍
My family had a 2001 Honda Odyssey EX (similar to the Toyota Sienna) and a 2002 Honda CRV LX a very long time ago with lower auto insurance for both cars. Safety precautions are safe and smooth, and those vehicles run really well. Contains additional legroom, steering wheels are really comfortable, and leather seats are comfortable. Never had a major issue for Honda. Only when the tire pressure is really low, which is a minor issue.
I agree with the comments regarding the spare tire. I had a flat with my Ford Fusion Hybrid and the fix Alta impress was useless since I had damaged the side wall on road debris. Fortunately, I was not in the middle of nowhere, but still had to have the car towed to the dealer for a new tire and wheel repair. I liked the car a lot, but ultimately decided that if my wife was going to take trips in it, she would need a car with a spare tire. Traded it for a Volvo S60.
Correction. Was referring to the fix a flat compressor being useless.
Alex, I think for most people looking at cars in these segments, it comes down to high affordability and reliability with low depreciation. Considering this is the vehicle keeping Honda in business, the fact they accept things like the 1.5L turbo motor, seat belt placement in the rear center roof, and the slow infotainment, are ridiculous. They've had enough generations to perfect this thing and lower costs. None of these companies should have flaws in their vehicles at this point.
Honda has the better AWD System then the Toyota, but doesn't get the better MPG. Looks very nice in that color. Since this is their first time doing a hybrid with the CRV, it can only get better from here. Great review Alex. I wonder if they'd do a Passport Hybrid in the future...
Driving sport tv tested it off-road on mild mountain trails and the RAV4 Hybrid performed better on the same trail. Not much more use than better traction in inclement weather.
No specific off road setting like the RAV.
Acura has had the MDX Hybrid for a few years now. The MDX shares its platform with the Pilot/Passport. For some reason, Honda has never offered that drivetrain from the MDX even though it’s clearly possible.
@@alliejr Probably because they want to keep the brands separate.
@@robbilton9006 Driving Sport TV may have had that result, but if you watch the review from TFL Review where they put both on the rollers, the RAV-4 does TERRIBLE. If a AWD system can't pass a roller test then it's not worth getting.
@@atmartens true, but they've not taken the Honda on the rollers yet. The DST video did price that you needed revs to get the back going and the TFL guys are all about the Rock crawling (apart from Nathan lol).
Alex has pointed this rev thing out in the original rav4 Hybrid review.
Dec. 2020 Comparison between the CRV vs RAV4. Both beautiful hybrids. But if you are NOT tall.... my wife is about 5'4" & I am about 5' 6". The RAV 4 front seats are TOO low for both of us. The CRV is much much better. Seats are higher up front and the dashboard is not as "rounded" as the RAV 4, making it harder to see over..plus the RAV 4 Info system sits up "high" as opposed to the CRV! This is in regard to both vehicles having power seats. Great video Alex!!!!!!
Seems like your steering people to the RAV , let me point out some key factors 1. Interior comfort / roomieness ex-l trim level genuine leather CRV is clearly the winner 2. Real offroad capability / winter CRV clearly the winner 3. Battery CRV lithium ion ,RAV nickel hydride CRV clearly the winner 4. Price considerably lower .
I like the rear end and proportions of the CRV. It looks like a wagon- a Civic wagon.
I like the wagon and the man that bites in the name of the wagon.
I had a tire blowout 2 months ago on the highway. 20 minutes to put on the spare and I'm back on the road. If I'm buying a hypercar then no spare is fine but not for a daily driver.
Good point. And for those who say, "I'll just call AAA" then good luck when the service patrol truck comes by and asks where's your spare. Next thing you know, they have to call in a flatbed to get your car out to a shop. Cross your fingers they have the tire you need available, then you'll be out in just a half day from start to finish, else be prepared to leave your vehicle overnight while you find some other way to get around. Quite a nightmare to deal with, especially right now with Covid situation I would do everything possible to ensure you have what you need on you to get on your way.
Nice good honest review as Always Alex.
So the RAV4 hybrid is faster, more fuel efficient and has spare tire. This is a hard up sell for Honda.
Thanks, I'll go for the CRV touring
looks better in my opinion. Passenger seat adjustment style and real awd are the main reasons. Plus I already have a Honda so better trade in value.
That is a wicked color.
I have that color on my CR-V Hybrid and I get a lot of attention and questions about it. Everybody loves it. 😁
Kevin Morrow Very cool.
RAV4 has a similar color.
How can they put out an all-new hybrid and still equip it with that ancient infotainment? Are the Accord, Pilot, and Odyssey the only ones worthy of having it?
The Honda way!
LoveStallion Agreed! The Civic and HRV also have it. The Passport and Ridgeline have the new infotainment system like the Accord, Pilot, and Odyssey; however, a new generation Civic is due next year and will almost certainly get the updated infotainment system.
I don’t know why they don’t update the infotainment system, especially since this introduces a refresh for the CR-V. Honda is very confusing at times.
Most Autos have poor infotainments. Poor screen quality, glossy, forced to use limited android auto/apple car play. Aftermarket android decks that have all the features of android phones are far superior. Wireless carplay/android auto, screen mirroring and customizable apps from Play Store.
If you think honda has ancient infotainment, you havnt seen how ancient it is in my 4runner compared to my wifes crv😂
I really care about fuel efficiency and having a spare tire, so I find the CR-V Hybrid very disappointing.
Sounds like RAV4 might be better suited for you then.
Pikminiman Yea, that’s true but you can’t have it all. If you run into tire problem you can easily fix that with tire repair kit, there are advance ones now. Moreover, good tires would hardly have any problems and if you change them in due course. The Cr-v has mechanical AWD which is a better terrain drivable than that of Toyota, it has better handling and corners really well. I hope I have convinced you enough...lol. I will chose cr-v because of the purpose I will use it for, fuel efficiency is not that much different from Toyota hybrid. Well, that’s what I think. Enjoy ☺️
@@asiamahatta2700 : When I have needed my spare tire (about once every two years), I have been hours away from the nearest town, and my tire was shredded far beyond the capability of any repair kit to fix. Moreover, because I live out in the desert, almost all of my driving happens at 75-80 MPH, so the difference in fuel efficiency is enormous. I sincerely hope you enjoy your CR-V Hybrid, but it's just not feasible for my use case.
Fuel efficiency is only a slight difference.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 : In city driving, sure, they're basically comparable. But the difference at 75-80 MPH is enormous. Alex addresses this in the video.
Rav4 Hybrid is the winner here.
Have
You driven the escape? I have a RAV4 and my lease expired. I just assumed I would purchase another, but I drove it and a friend told to try the escape. I was shocked. It rode better, was quieter and handled better. Bought one on the spot. So, if you haven’t tried one, don’t judge.
@@jt-eb4spI am comparing CRV to RAV4. NOT RAV4 to the escape. omg judger. I wouldn't buy the escape just for one simple fact , the resale value sucks. Toyota is the best in resale value and reliability. i guess you haven't tried to sell ford cars.
@@rann7588 and Ford has an endless reputation for being unreliable...... I wouldn't touch the Ford Escape hybrid or any other Fords with a ten foot pole!
"It has the same engine set up as the Accord Hybrid". Which from my understanding the 2.0L Naturally aspirated engine and lack of a transmission means the hybrid will be more reliable and outlast the standard 1.5T CR-V versions. When comparing a similarly equipped 1.5T CR-V AWD model - to the 2.0L hybrid it is only around $1200 more. Longer lasting, better gas millage for $1200 more. We bought one last month - but shortages made it a pain to get. I hope Honda sometime in the next year or two releases a Plug-In Hybrid version.
Thanks, I’ll go for the RAV4. Faster, better MPG, and looks better in my opinion. Especially the XSE. Quite expensive though.
I bought my 2019 RAV4 hybrid XSE for just under $30,000 USD including all taxes, freight, delivery. Paid cash.
@@James-il3tq did you get it this year?
Dang, i got taken. Paid $34,500 out the door for the CRV Hybrid EXL.
@@ericl3272 Bought mine Jul 2019 in Alberta, Canada.
Get your car through Costco, you will save 2k at least.
Nice change of camera use Alex. The motion adds just that little extra touch!
Correction: 40 City, 35 hwy
Gee UZBO also: correction: 1.5T is faster at 7.3 seconds according to AoA’s 2017 CRV review.
Guys, thanks for making a better and more accurate video than Alex did.
I’m waiting to drive the new Toyota Venza hybrid. The interior styling and infotainment system are a level above the other small SUV’s that are currently on the market.
45k 🤔 though. You can get so many good SUV for 45+
Obviously as far as the current crop is concerned it's a contest primarily between the RAV4 and the CR-V with the Escape Hybrid trailing the two leaders. In terms of brands I'm somewhat prejudiced toward Honda over Toyota vehicles.Each has its strong points and weaknesses but I have to admit that the RAV4 takes the prize in that comparison. If the RAV4 Prime were in the mix, the gap would be even greater but since that vehicle is unavailable for up to a couple of years, or so, I see it as nothing more than a marketing ploy designed to boost sales of the current RAV4 Hybrid and put the brakes on the sale of other plug-in hybrids.
I actually prefer the looks of the Escape Hybrid to either the CR-V and the RAV4. I haven't examined it closely, though, and Ford's choices in terms of cost cutting (especially in their interiors) make me somewhat hesitant about the overall package.
Bottom line. Having owned two KIA Sorentos that have given my family unfailingly great service in a Goldilocks size (about 8"-10" longer the compact crossover category) I'd be waiting to see what the hybrid version of the KIA has to offer.
Impressive and the right tech to fix what’s probably the worst part of most SUVs; fuel economy. VW and a few others should really look at making there’s available here as well.
The mpg is appealing but missing a spare tire, pano roof and 360° cam at least as options is a disappointment. I don’t know when it’s due for a redesign but this generation of CR-V looks like it should be on its way out.
I wish Honda would use a different hybrid system. A serial hybrid just won’t be all that efficient at higher speeds. Planetary hybrids and even Hyundai’s sorta pancake motor between the engine and transmission are much better at efficiency. Hyundai’s system may not be as robust, but it delivers in terms of fuel economy. Planetary systems are incredibly robust due to simplicity and are still very efficient
Would have gone with the Escape but the CRV interior feels more roomy. As new grandparent, it was also important to get child seat in and out with ease .. so that became more important over highway mileage. Bonus was the "nanny mirror" from the sunglasses storage drop. If I get concerned about no spare, I'll lay a compact or full size spare in the back.
Try putting on all three rear seatbelts. You legally cannot. It’s a known issue with all CRVs.
I have a RAV4 lease which is expiring. I assumed I would just purchase another. A friend told me to drive the ford, and I did. It was much quieter, very nice ride and superior handling and road feel. I left Toyota and want ford.
RDX should have a hybrid option with NSX technology...
Fun fact: there’s an MDX “sport” hybrid that no one buys
@@Jaymac720 I know about the MDX hybrid!
Jay Mac I thought that was just the RLX?
Alex, is stopping distance 120 ft (12:02) like you stated, or 115 ft as you posted? Thanks as always for another great review.
Alex, I'm with you, liking the Rav4 better. After owning a few honda hybrids cars, I cannot drive faster than 70mph, or the gas mileage will down like you said many times. When driving my 2020 Insight EX 60-65 mph, behind semi trucks or other slow cars on freeways, usually on the slow lane, I'm getting 56-60 mpg. Accord Hybrid whether is current or previous model, offers fast takeoff and great power but suffered in mpg. The 2012 Insight was slow to takeoff but it was good in mpg, except the auto-stop feature, which was awful in hot days. Civic Hybrid had a good mpg but has the worst braking in the whole wild world.
The deciding factor for me between the two was that toyota was marking up every rav4 hybrid by $2500. Went with the CRV EXL which feels nicer on the inside and averages me about 38mpg in mixed and hilly driving.
Another great review. Thank
you. We just got done renting a toyota rav4 and found it to be one of the worst modern cars we have ever driven. The power was lacking, doors sound cheap when closing and the back interior hatch handle came off in my hand when trying to close the door. We now understand why it is rated so low in CR.
Alex, You #agonized over your rankings but in the end you, quite rightly, put the RAV4 Hybrid on top. Sometimes when a manufacturer says 0 tow rating I think they are bluffing but in this case I would be very worried about that over-stressed Honda engine literally blowing up in pieces on the side of the road. Better luck next time CR-V and for gosh sakes bring a spare ;)
Many car models including most luxury cars do not include a spare tire nor have a place a store one. If you need to tow, a hybrid is just not your best choice, regardless of manufacturers recommended towing.
@@alliejr Did you watch Alex's two excellent and detailed RAV4 Hybrid towing videos?
Thanks for helping me decide.
The RAV 4 is my choice
I wish the RAV 4 had a flat laying cargo. However considered I love a Spare. (I plan to take long trips) A spare is kind of a must. Speed doesn't matter much for me. Extra 2mpg is nicer. But things looking fairly equal I will take the spare Tire and the center seat belt thing vs flat deck and 1" knee space.
RAV 4 is my choice. I'm getting a 2021 XLE with all the options. (Not a fan of the two tone XSE) I know no leatheret seats but that's ok for me.
Do you have any idea when you might get a long term review of the Ford Escape Hybrid? Both fuel economy and a spare tire are important to me.
The RAV4 fuel tank issue along with its other issues like 12v battery drain etc. is why I’m looking for alternatives. If wasn’t for that I’d say RAV4. If they offer hybrid version of the Bronco Sport I’d probably get that over all of these.
The clutch that connects the rear axle seems to be too weak to put enough power in more demanding situations. It is better on flat gravel, but the AWD as a whole system is rather average.
"Driving Sports" YT channel showed that on his off-road tests.
Looking at the comments, there’s a lot of mistakes in this video (MPG CITY/HWY, regular CRV 0-60 comparison, etc.). C’mon Alex, you’re better than that!
I get 44 CITY and 38 HWY in my CR-V Hybrid, so um.... Lol
Thanks for the vid. I think your MPG numbers for city and HWY are reversed FYI.
35 HWY, 40 CITY. And I actually get 44 CITY and 37 HWY. But who's counting? Lol.
The 2 things that stops me from buying this is it looks like a raised mini van and no spare tire.
Totally looks like minivan, especially from the rear.
No spare? No deal!
RAV4 Hybrid is the way to go hybrid better than the CRV Hybrid in actual performance & fuel efficiency
This is the only CRV choice because of the longevity failure of the standard 1.5L turbo direct injection engine's gasoline contaminating the oil.
True enough. But it's another no choice for most people because of no spare tire & no towing capability.
@@henryhonda8408 I use Michelin Defenders. I haven't needed a spare. TPM lets you know when pressure is 24. Plenty of time to get the tire repaired or replaced. An aftermarket hitch is available for smaller loads. Otherwise I use my Dodge Cummins.
Great review, appreciative
Good video as per usual and I agree that RAV4 hybrid is better but issue with Toyota is the extremely high MSRP and if you finance it interest rate is crazy high.
Im not saying the rav4 is perfect but Heres what u cant get on the crv that u can get rav4 hybrid/ pano sunroof/ rear heated seats/ front cooled seats/ adaptive headlights/ a spare tire/ an updated infotainment system/ and no name brand sound system/btw the wood trim in the crv is not good
Rav4 by far the better buy here
Man, i was expecting Honda to knock it out of the park, but this is a pretty big disappointment.
You have to own it to appreciate it, as I do.
Kevin Morrow it’s not anything special, Honda has never made hybrids reliably. I hope you enjoy it now and get rid of it after the warranty. Honda has never been as good as Toyota with the hybrid battery packs. I’d take an escape over this any day. Older 2006 escape hybrids are used as taxis and easily do 300k with no battery issues. Ford and Toyota know how to keep these battery packs cooled and controlled for longevity.
@@juvibro9913 thank you for your advice. I had a 2007 CR-V which accumulated 394,000 miles in 7 years. No, it wasn't a hybrid, but it sure as hell was reliable and dependable with no major problems the entire time I owned it. I will give my new CR-V Hybrid the benefit of the doubt and will reserve judgement given it's own merits in time. My friend has an Accord Hybrid that currently has approximately 250,000 miles and it's been quite reliable, again with no major problems. My family have owned Honda vehicles since 1990, with no major repairs ever having been required. If you take care of a Honda, it will take care of you (i.e., don't drive like a bat out of hell and keep the oil changed). Again, thank you for the advice. I will take it under advisement. Stay safe and be blessed!! 😁
I would rather it look like a minivan/spaceship from the 90s than a car that is trying to look waaay more aggressive than it actually is.
Accord hybrid gives good gas mileage, but CR-V does not. Alex, did Honda give an explanation for that?
the camera crew is back!
No spare tire but a "tire repair kit" equals no deal.
I am somewhat surprised you didn't compare it to the Nissan Rogue, at least in terms of size. I understand the Rogue will have a hybrid version coming out again at some point. If I recall, the Rogue Hybrid of two years ago also had a mechanical AWD system.
That boxxx grrrr
This crap with increasing their profit by not providing a spare tire. I'm sure we all want to sit on the curb in the rain or snow repairing a tire. I've also heard that I can have my car towed to the dealer where they can 5x the price of a new tire along with the cost of the tow. All auto sellers who pull this crap can scam someone else. I want a spare, even if it's only a temporary spare.
Yes. In our area we can be out of cell service, on mountain roads, and in the rain easily. Any time we leave town we toss the spare we bought into our Honda Clarity. This business of no spare is not good.
Imagine having a flat on a Saturday night. Call for Honda and they will tow you to the nearest Honda dealer where they will gladly service your car Monday morning. In the mean time you call for a cab to take you home or to a hotel. No thanks. I'll go for the 15 minute tire change with the spare I bought.
Anyone wondering which is more capable AWD go watch The Fast Lane Car. Rav4 AWD is pretty lame and often doesn't work as it should.
Sure you get 2 more ish MPG, but the Honda can do more off the pavement.
i really like the imitation wood trim trend
10:44 I thought the regular CRV is faster 0-60 according to your review from 2017......
You are correct, the standard gasoline powered CRV with the 1.5L Turbo does 0-60mph in 7.3 seconds according to Alex’s last review. Hope he acknowledges that mistake and corrects it in this video.
Wait for the new Kia Sorento 2021
I have to ask - in the acceleration test, did you use ECON, NORMAL, or SPORT mode?
Because it is a serial hybrid, the CR-V can have almost instant, maximum torque response. Since that isn't efficient, ECON and NORMAL will artificially dampen its response. That's why, with the same drive trains in the Accord and Camry hybrids, the Accord wins the acceleration test. (Car & Driver, 7.1 to 7.9 seconds. Motor Trend, 6.7 to 7.4, Consumer Reports, 7.4 to 7.8; but CR always gets less out of Hondas and more out of Toyotas than other reviewers do.)
In my opinion, your emphasis on horsepower is misplaced. No car "has" its full hp at slow speeds. A BEV or serial HEV will have its maximum torque up until it becomes power limited (i.e., where MAXTRQ*RPM=5252*MAXHP). An ICEV or parallel HEV will have something less than its maximum torque up to that point. While these numbers are complicated by how the ICE and MGs are integrated, there is no way the RAV4 should feel "peppier" below where it reaches maximum power. It has a much lower maximum torque, and doesn't achieve it until 3600 rpm.
Hybrids are on the rise and Honda needs to make a mild performance version of their hybrid line up's. I have the MDX Sport Hybrid and love it.
hmmm, 71.5 dB noise level u say is the lowest of the CR-V's, but back when it was new model, the '17 was at 70 dB, if i recall correctly? I assume u r still using the same measuring equipment since then?
Is it me or do those power lines look REALLY low?
I don't get why Honda would go ahead and release a inferior product to a Toyota RAV4 that's already out
I still don't understand why CR-Vs in the US are not available with a pano roof but it is standard on canadian Touring model
"During our testing, the front-drive (Equinox 1.6t diesel)model was put through Real MPG's evaluations, and the results were an impressive 33.1/46.7 mpg, making this oil-burning family car one of the most fuel-efficient crossovers we've tested." Motor Trend
The Equinox is no longer made with a Diesel and its EPA rating was 28 city/39 hwy, with 28/38 for the AWD version.
Whatever circuit they used, they used a FWD version and you’d have to compare either both EPA ratings or both Motor Trend circuit ratings.
@@afcgeo882 still for sale and diesel prices in the low $2.00 range...
We love our 2018 Accord Hybrid (touring). We were hoping to switch to a CRV Hybrid when available, to get a higher driving position, more cargo space, and towing capacity - without taking too bad a hit on gas mileage. But this CR-V is very disappointing. Mediocre mileage, crappy infotainment, no HUD, no towing, no seat cooling, no room for a spare tire!? No thanks! Venza, maybe?
Btw, u have a great personality, defo not without one! I see that the 40mpg one way, & 18 the other, wasn't constant, or u'd have avg'd 29. So at 23, yeah, that's pretty baaad for such a honda. I'm quite disappointed w/ them for this level of performance.
Was all for getting this until I saw that it has the old infotainment system. I've got the latest one in my 2019 accord hybrid and its night and day different than this old one. Why in the world would they still use the old one??? Deal breaker, this car is now out of consideration.
Oh man vs the Rav 4 Hybrid and PRIME is falls a tad short. Kinda like the new Odyssey redesign vs the new Sienna. I really like Honda too
I was a die hard Honda fan too but that is slipping away real fast. :(
I haven't been asking for a Honda hybrid... or, any other Honda.
Lol
16:01 correction the average comes to 29mpg, not 23 mpg
Can’t believe there aren’t more comments about this. There’s no way a 40 mpg going one direction and an 18 mpg the other direction average out to 23! 😂
The killer for me is the cargo space. We have a Gen3 CRV now and it would have more space than this model. So the decision is simple for us. We will stay with the ICE CRV as the RAV4 is just too expensive for the same trim levels. The change from the old K24 engine to the newer L15T will save fuel for us anyhow so sacrificing any cargo space is just not worth it to us.
Good review though Andy! Thanks!
Who is Andy?
Outlander PHEV you better learn how to do a BMU reset when your range starts to fall off.
My sister's radio/ screen in her 2016 Civic went out while she was using Car Play. Anyway, this sounded terrible when you were flooring it.
No panoramic sunroof? Good news! I won't buy a vehicle with a panoramic sunroof - I don't need leaks and electro-mechanical complexity. I also have concerns about safety in the event of an accident.
Yes, I consider not having the "rain roof" a plus.
I think it's pretty apparent the 2.0 NA engine in this isn't strong enough for a vehicle this heavy at highway speeds. Toyota's decision to invest in a new 2.5 NA engine looks pretty smart right now because Honda's only choice looks to be putting in a turbo in their hybrids like Hyundai/Kia is doing with a 1.6T for the Santa Fe and Sorento. It's gotta be direct injection, of course, so oil dilution may be a problem for hybrids designed to use the ICE as little as possible.
I'm going to assume the Tuscon hybrid will use the 2.0 NA hybrid found in the Sonata which will be slower than the RAV4 HV but it's also smaller than the RAV4/CR-V.
If they put in a turbo then you have to deal with oil dilution problems that Honda still hasn’t properly addressed. Not to mention complaints of ac compressor failures and transmission issue.
It’s not the engine. It’s the gear ratio. The engine is plenty powerful for highway use.
Sure, but unless Honda redesigns their hybrid systems for a second time to put in an actual transmission, they're going to need to put in a bigger engine to match the speed and efficiency of Toyota's system in their larger vehicles.
I mean, what is Honda going to do if they decide to make a hybrid version of the Passport or Pilot? They don't have a larger I-4 to put in there like Toyota so it'll be either a small turbo or a detuned V-6?
Daniel Cheng I don’t think Honda is looking to get into the Hybrid game too much. They release a fuel cell, plug-in or hybrid car here and there, just as compliance vehicles. They don’t seem to be sold on any one tech just yet.
That info screen is pathetic. Holy-borders Batman!
No spare tired that's sucks !!! I have a BMW 328 and I found out it doesn't have a spare tired when I had flat tired I was so mad at those German's O boy .
I really hate mine, I rarely get 35mil/g, very slow when going uphill my engine is screaming! Good with snow driving though. I hope they will upgrade the engine
Alex, have you tested the 2021 CR V Hybrids yet?
I wish Canada got this.
Alex where did you get the RAV4 photo at 18:20? It has limited model grill and door handles but has the 18” chrome wheels. Similar to black wheels on XSE model. Is this a photo of the PRIME?
Lost me at no spare tire
Lost me at no spare tire AND no towing capabilities...... both deal breakers for me.
I would’ve liked to know how the overall range compares to other models as well as warranties.
Standard 3/36 warranty.
So sad that CRV will not have spare tire. I was considering this on my list, but now.. No way.. I need spare tire.
Does CR-V Hybrid have active shutters like one can find on the non-hybrid CR-V?
If you drive conservatively under the speed limit a little bit then you can easily get 40-45 my avg ranges anywhere from 35-45 and that's also driving on 40-50 mph roads mostly and idling in traffic at lights. If you drive aggressively you will lose massive amounts of efficiency. If you turn off eco mode you will lose mpgs. if you don't use the paddles you will lose mpgs...if you don't use ev mode through parking lots when power is available you will lose mpgs.
Well... yes and no.
I drive the Accord hybrid, so some details might differ in amount. But not the conclusions.
I definitely lose mpg above about 65 mph. But between 40 and 65 it is pretty consistent, whether above or below the speed limit. On a 45 mile trip from Central Maryland to Arlington, VA on Sunday (mostly speeds 50 to 65 mph, but some up to 75) I got 61 mpg with no special "hypermiling" tricks.
It is aggressive driving (i.e., changing speeds a lot) that is the killer. ECON (is my car the only one with an "N" on the button?) mode doesn't do much over "normal" mode, except make it harder to drive aggressively. SPORT changes the optimization strategy, to enable more aggressive driving.
The paddles are misunderstood. There is no need to use them, if you train yourself to use the brakes. I like to distinguish between braking (using the brake pedal) and coasting (releasing the accelerator pedal). The paddles only affect coasting. You can get the exact same regen using braking, as long as you don't exceed the capability of the system. The paddles can help you learn when it is exceeded, by trying to use them alone occasionally.
But my biggest point here, is that the only effect the EV Mode button has on mpg is to reduce it. Charge isn't "free energy," it comes from gas by using the engine. And it incurs more loss, due to electrical conversion. If EV Drive is appropriate in a parking lot, the car will choose it by itself. If you push the button when the car would not choose it, the engine has to run harder when it turns back on, to replace that charge.
@@jeffjo8732 I don't disagree with what you are saying but it depends on your routes also. My routes have gotten me up to 49 mpg and that's driving conservatively. I let my wife drive it and she didn't use the paddles at all and she got worse mpgs granted I always get worse mpgs according to the trip computer if we idle at dr offices and stores and stuff however my gas tank tells the story of "holy shit this is the best gas mileage I have ever gotten on any car ever let alone a compact SUV" so I am not complaining about my results I am mostly complaining about the reviews because I know those guys are not using eco mode(which does help with mpgs) and they have heavy feet.
@@jeffjo8732 all I know about the paddles is they allow you to glide down hills and glide to stop lights while charging the battery. If I optimize the right areas to use them I always get better mpgs
@@Odinarcade00 What you may not realize is that the brake pedal uses regen as well. But once you push a certain level, it blends in friction brakes. If you can learn to "glide" the sa me way with the pedal, you will get the same mpg.
@@jeffjo8732 yeah I like the paddles though makes it a lot easier on me lol