I picked my 2021 Honda CR-V EX-L AWD around 2 weeks ago and I love it. Very comfortable for daily and road trips, Good handling , nice specs and style.
I’ve been trying to decide between the model you bought and the 2022 Tucson. Did you consider anything else? I’ve test driven everything in this class except for the Rogue.
@@Stormnorman15 Hey buddy. After 2 years I still have my 2021 CR-V AWD EX-L and 28,000 miles on. Every aspect has been the same except that I have to replace my tires but other than that it's a great vehicle and just keeping up with the regular maintenance etc.
I have a 2017 CRV and I couldn't be more pleased. Honda has been my choice for 14 years and not one problem with any of the cars that I have had from Honda.
People don’t know about Mazda 6 oil dilution problems because no one buys them. There are plenty of people on their forums complaining about it and have oil analysis test to show it. The same with the Elantra sport Di, go visit the forums. The issues is mostly with direct injection, if you don’t drive it enough to let the engine warm up you’ll have oil dilution issues, cold weather and short trips are the most common scenarios for replicating this issues. If you drive short trips everyday, don’t get any Direct injection engine if you plan on keeping the car long term. As Alex stated, the reason you’re hearing about it in the CR-V is because it’s the best selling vehicles in its class.
Hi just bought a 2019 Honda Crv 13000 on the clock when sitting in car with engine running for about 15 minutes engine is wormed up ,got a vw caddy and this would not happen (Crv made in Japan don’t know if this is the difference) from Scotland thanks .
Just over two years of ownership in my 2021 CR-V Touring AWD and I have to say, I like it. Do I love it, no, but it does everything I want it to do. It is roomy for roady trips, my dog loves the car, trunk space is ample, there's a spare tire, and gas is way better than my prior 2011 CR-V. With the new CR-V out, so far, I am actually glad I got this model than the newer. Sure, the tech is all there and it is missing a lot of the premium tech like other cars (ie: 360 cam, a bigger infotainment screen, cooling seats, etc ) but again for my daily regular day to day, it's a good, reliable car. No problems with oil issue but just got a nice letter from Honda the other day r/e a warranty extension for their A/C compressor shaft seal leak. 3 yr/36 to 10yr/unlimited miles. Thanks Alex for the initial assessment of the car, was so good, even got the same color as the one you reviewed!
Good point about the 1.5T engine. My cousin in Taiwan bought a 1.5T CRV, and I also bought a 1.5T CRV in California 2 years ago. There is absolutely no problem with both of the engines.
Because you are in a warm climate. The problems generally occurs in cold climates.... These problems are inherent in all DI engines especially those with turbos.
@@a.r.walker6255 I think the excessive boost on this tiny motor also contributes to the issue. Honda's 2.0T does not have the same complaints. This one is boosted allot. Its pretty heavy vehicle for such a small displacement motor. That alone gives me ALLOT of pause.
@@a.r.walker6255_ "DETROIT (AP) - Hyundai has found a new problem that can cause its car engines to fail or catch fire, issuing yet another recall to fix problems that have affected more than 6 million vehicles during the past 3 ½ years. The Korean automaker, under pressure from safety regulators, is recalling about 20,000 Veloster cars in the U.S. and Canada because fuel can prematurely ignite in the cylinders around the pistons. That can cause excessive pressure and damage the engine, causing vehicles to stall and in some cases catch fire, according to Hyundai documents posted Friday by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration... So far Hyundai and Kia have recalled about 2.4 million vehicles to fix problems that can cause fires and engine failures since 2015. In addition, the automakers are doing a “product improvement campaign” covering another 3.7 million vehicles to install software that will alert drivers of possible engine failures and send the cars into a reduced-speed “limp” mode if problems are detected. ( April 4, 2019)" Yes you should buy a Kourean car in the cold climate to keep it "hot"
HiPlains1 at 3358 pounds it’s not that heavy it’s actually one of the lighter options in the class in fact it’s around the weight of a MK4 Supra which is a 90s sports car
I'm so happy seeing everyone aware of the oil dilution problem. This can't be fixed with software because it clearly causes other issues. If you're not planning on keeping the car for more then 5 years then you have nothing to worry about. If you plan on this being a forever car, plan on the engine dying sooner then expected. Honda doesn't have to do anything because the problems won't show up for a while.
Just got a 2021 Hybrid Touring in the same color in this video absolutely love it! Can go 600 miles on a tank of gas, has a better AWD system then the RAV4 and actually ranks higher in reliability then the RAV4. Interior quality is high end lots of soft touch materials and not hard plastic. This is my 9th Honda product and keep buying them for good reason
You are the greatest vehicles reviewer on TH-cam but base on your comment, if I live in the Midwest and/or Canada, I should not buy this CR-V. I do warm up my cars/trucks in the winter times for at least 5-10 Min before using the vehicle though. Another great review. Thanks!!
I LIVE in NEW YORK STATE. With the WINTER MONTHS being COLD, it's A GOOD IDEA TO START THE CAR and let the car WARM UP. Thank god for REMORT START. The REMORT START is more NECESSITY than CONVENIENCE or vice versa depending on how you see it.
@@clarencewhite6053 if you are only driving once or twice a week, would it be a good idea to remote start in between trips, letting it run for a bit to mitigate possible oil dilution?
I picked the Subaru Forester last year and would continue to do so. Great ride, seamless and responsive CVT, very roomy, and better than 31 mpg overall after >15,000 miles.
....from pouring rain under the guter! Forester and Subbie has CVT as well , people should stop buying these vahicles and Subbie could easily use solid 6 , 7 or 8 speed ATX that would serve low speed and high torque allocation like Forester. It would be way more drivable and better suited for AWD without CVT. My friends Legacy's CVT just pooped out at 65K miles after religious maintnance and women with kids driving it calmly . These things suck with performance and reliability , 2mph on highway gained are soooo not worth it!!!
Unfortunately, the direct injection engine, auto-start stop and a problematic CVT add up to the Forester not being the leader in the class anymore. I also think more people are catching on to the facf that the new Subaru AWD systems aren’t what they used to be. Plus, it’s sadly slow.
I have an Outback (I know we are talking about the Forester), and I wanted to chime in with my experience. I had to have the transmission replaced at ~70,000. That is NOT good reliability. I drove it conservatively and never went off roading with it. Thank goodness Subaru extended the warranty on the transmission so I did not have to pay for the replacement (something like $9000!!!). None the less, even though I love my Subaru, I am getting very nervous about other items failing as I get close to 100k miles. I will be trading it in this year for either an Accord or a CR-V. If they put the bigger 2.0T motor and transmission from the Accord into the CR-V, I will definitely get the CR-V as I prefer an SUV over a sedan. However, I REALLY want the more powerful engine, so I will probably end up with the Accord (pretty sure the CR-V won't get the bigger engine this year, if ever).
@@macmuchmore1 ....sorry to hear your story , CX5 2.5t would make you smile ! Accord's 10 speed is just too many... it reliability while better than CVT is still unknown . When I drove this 10 speed other than quick acceleration in normal driving it was hunting for gears and not always shifting smoothly. 6 speed from Mazda is super relaible , always in the correct gear and very intuitive, even that likely it is 1 or 2 not enough it seemed much better than 10 speed from Accord.
k domster I test drove the CX-5 (non turbo) back to back with the CR-V. It was MUCH more engaging (it was like driving it via ESP lol) and the interior is really nice. I’m sure the 2.5t is amazing. Unfortunately, I’m just not a fan of its styling. I think it’s ok, but a little too polarizing for me.
Honda is highly competitive. I am positive the CR-V will be upgraded in 2021. I like to see power folding mirror, 360* camera, HUD and ventilated seats. BTW we have the 2016 Civic with the 1.5 turbo and love it. If I had to switch cars I will likely pickup a RAV4 Hybrid today. Having said that RAV4 also has some weaknesses. I will wait for the CR-V in the 2021 model year.
I eliminated the Toyota RAV 4. The rear doors and rear seats of the Honda CR-V and the Nissan Rogue are far superior, their doors open wider and are much easy to get in and out off. Also, the lease rates on the Toyota are higher resulting in higher monthly payments.
Thanks for another awesome review. I would almost agree with your top pick, the RAV4 Hybrid, but the gas tank fill issue takes it totally out of the running.
I’ve CRV since 2018 and very satisfied across the board performance. I live in relative colder area of NA in Ontario and my driving habit doesn’t warrant the oil dilution even and local dealer recalled it regardless and made hardware and software changes. Great fuel economy
Alex your right its the older first Nissan CVTs that had the issues. ive posted this before. The maintenance is the Key. My 17 Altima had 100,000miles when traded and i did what the service asked for. Never any issues with it.
Some of those Jatco CVT's were just bad with Nissan. They would fail before the first CVT fluid change. Junk. They got a bunch of new models out. Hopefully they learned their lesson. They better, they are near bankruptcy now. Sell allot of cars but have very little margin. They have to discount heavy to move them.
Alex always love your reviews. If I was buying a SUV in this category I would take a good look at the Subaru Forester. While the Ford sounds intriguing I"m a little afraid of the brand reliability.
Oil dilution is a currently known problem, it's not exclusive to Honda. the problem is that Honda has clearly communicated that it intends to do nothing about the problem. As he says, I should try something else. I did; I bought a Passport. Interestingly, the Passport Touring has more and better features, a far superior engine and transmission, uses cheaper gar to mitigate the cost of operation compared to the high octane gar required here, and provides far more space. Yes, the Passport costs more, in may dealership, about $4,000 more. Hey, a major repair on the cheese box racing engine in the CR-V will cost that much.
If I was in a market for a new CR-V (currently own a 2008 CR-V EX AWD with 160K), I would seriously consider a 2020 CR-V except for (1) Honda needs to replace the infotainment system with either the one from the Accord or Odyssey and (2) concerns about the oil dilution problem that I've read about. Even the upcoming Hybrid model has the same infotainment system in the regular CR-V. C'mon Honda, what's up with that? It's the same with the Civic line; having an older/outdated infotainment system. Wouldn't it be easier for them to just have one infotainment system, from a cost/SKU/manufacturing perspective?
Also I am highly disappointed with how the removed the USB port from inside the centre arm rest area and rather put 2 usb ports in the central console below gear with no place to put the phone except only 1 place to put the phone , how stupid. It was better when you can charge it away inside the center arm rest opening away from prying eyes. Especially when you are parked somewhere small time and you leave the phone inside.
If it wasn't for the oil dilution issue with Honda's turbos I would consider this CRV...but seeing how Honda has tried to avoid taking responsibility and less than responsive to customers complaints, I will pass.
For $15 to $20 a easy oil sample and analysis can tell the rate of Fuel dilution of the lubricating oil.. then tailor your service interval around the mileage or months between services i would not rely on the Honda oil life maintenance indicator in the dash.. in my opinion based on oil analysis i think Hyundai and Kia has a better handle on GDI and Turbo GDi serving vs fuel dilution within the window of your service intervals..
Should have the Accord 2.0T engine and 10 speed transmission as an option. I buy it and Acura RDX not selling well anyways so Honda should do the 2.0T!
It’s nice! Gets great gas mileage. 30.9 mpg. I had Mercedes E350 sport for 6 years. It was a money pit and had to buy new Tires every 19000 miles. Oil change B service $799. Crazy! Both had wind noise that bothers me.
$32000. Sams club auto discount, true value and $500 military discount brought it down. Also I bought my husband a new Civic the same day. He has had 5 Civics since 2007 and won’t drive anything else. My favorites have been the Cadillacs I owned. I don’t travel anymore so the CRV is great for grocery shopping loading in and out.
Have a 2017 Touring. At 6,000 miles on an oil change, crankcase has 3/4-1 quart of additional 'oil' (gasoline) in it. Measured what I took out vs what the engine takes. This engine has a serious oil dilution problem. Will be our last Honda for sure. And no, it's not just 'short trips/cold climate.' Average trips are 50+ miles, and care is rarely driven in the winter months at all.
Am I the only one who doesn't want a huge touch screen in my dash? With the touchscreen visuals integrated into the instrument cluster and the controls in the steering wheel, I find the touchscreens to be redundant and dust magnets. Instead of the extra money for a bigger screen, I'd rather that be spent towards adjustable lumbar. Yes Civic, I'm talking to you. LOL
Rick Rolled your dice roll with Subaru has way worse odds my man, I hope you bought the extended warranty or you’ll sell your car after the warranty is up.
RE: Oil Dilution. People who drive very short distances, have cold winters, and the engine never warms up are the perfect candidates for an electric car. I have a neighbor that drives her car less than a mile to work and occasionally drives it maybe five miles to go shopping. A gasoline or diesel engine is a very poor choice of power plant for this sort of usage. That said, the hybrid version of the CR-V and the RAV4 are the most sensible way to own one of these. Folks, if you have a daily short commute and rarely take long drives please consider a new or used EV or at least a PHEV. You and the planet will be much better off.
Tell that to owners being told to change oil every 2K miles for oil dilution. Junk engine. 1.5L is too small with excessive boost. The 2.4 was a much better power plant. Those did last forever. This not a a chance. This is a big step backwards for Honda. This one you need to avoid like the plague.
@@HiPlains1 I own 2 CRV'S with the 2.4 engine, one a 2012 and the other a 2016. Those engines have always run well and seems well suited for an SUV. I can't speak of the 1.5 but as someone that buys CRV's I must say that going down to that small engine might make me buy a different SUV down the road when I need a new SUV. Without knowing I do worry that the smaller engine won't hold up in the long run and or not be very quick. It is a factor for sure. I love my CRV's but Im not sure Im willing to give up a 2.4 engine for a smaller one even if that's 2.0 I wont do it.
Fuel dilution is a problem, and especially one in cold climates. My 2017 civic turbo would have 1% gas in the oil at ~3000 miles according to blackstone labs results I would get, and that was in Georgia. I imagine in higher stress in a AWD system in an SUV in the winter climates would really kill long term engine health...
It all adds up dude. One can take longer trips then maybe run to the 7-11 and grocery store for short hops during cold weather. Once the gas drops in oil it stays until you change the oil. So it can add up. There is no excuse and their is no fix for this problem. They over boosted a tiny motor which causes the issue (which in itself should give one pause for the longevity of a smallish engine being over worked). Their 2.0T does not have these issues. Really not worth even considering when you have other brands that are bullet proof. Honda needs to drop the engine. And the problem is far worse then this guy lets you think. He is sugar coating it. Big time. Allot of die hard honda fans are avoiding this one like the plague. In short, don't trust this review. Talk to the owners on the forums.
@@HiPlains1 "In a memo sent to dealers, Honda’s manager of auto campaigns and recalls, Brad Ortloff, said oil in these engines could be diluted because of software settings or potential hardware failures. Some vehicles could experience “lack of power,” leading to cylinder misfires or engine noise." Consumer Reports "But if the vehicles are stalling, as some owners have reported, this is a safety issue and Honda should conduct an official recall, which doesn’t expire.” Consumer Reports
@@HiPlains1 I did talk to owners on the forums and practically had my life threatened (no joke) for asking about oil dilution. I was told if I persisted in asking and spreading lies, and I’d only asked one question regarding if it was still an issue, I would be banned from the forum and I had better watch my back. This was from the admins. It didn’t really answer my question and put me off the vehicle.
@@eulie717 oh yeah that forum is definitely getting a kickback from the OEM that's crazy. Personally I just don't know about these small overboosted engines I think they're 2 liter turbo is a pretty decent motor probably the Honda accords are last decent car they make. But I'd stay away from that 1.5. but I've heard over and over that Honda is not what they used to be as far as reliability and they've kind of lost their way and are drowned out in the SUV market and the truck they make is low volume it's a niche truck I don't know what you call it. I guess a front wheel drive uni body car truck. But folks still want more capability they don't care about the soft ride they want more lift and body on frame ruggedness. Honda really doesn't have a decent SUV or a truck for that matter and that's pretty much what sells now.
Price to replace halogen bulbs, about $20. Price to replace LED, minimum $400. I'm NOT disappointed that they leave the LEDs on the high-end trims that only people who can afford $400 headlight "bulb" changes buy. All that TH-cam, Patreon, and sponsor money are making Alex lose touch with the reality most people live in.
LEDs are designed to last the life of the car (or beyond). Replacement is extremely rare and the costs are generally below $400. Toyota has been using LEDs in all trims of their inexpensive vehicles for a while and there have really been no issues.
Great review, as usual, but the Subaru Forester and the Mazda CX-5 were conspicuous by their absence in the comparison at the end. Also, citing reliability as a con for the Rogue but not for the Chevy or the Ford, which are even more unreliable, was curious!
I agree regarding the comparison between the CRV and Forester. I was in the market for a similar vehicle and would have really benefited from a comparison. Although this is a very good review of the CRV, thanks for the good work.
Honda CR-V's are decent SUV's, if you force Honda to fix issues that are over 10 years old, and don't buy a Turbo 4. You will also need $500 of soundproofing for it to match the Rav-4 on the road noise.
Alex , it's not so much OD , It's the problems created by it or associated with the 1.5L. The Biggest is ability to build heat within local stop and go driving. Highway driving no problem, but if you drive stop and go you will never be able to build cabin heat and below 32 degree weather. Even worse when in the single digits. I cannot speak for the 2020's but hopefully its been somewhat fixed. The OD issue can be overcome by changing the oil more frequently. It's a shame Honda has taken a wait and see attitude and is handing out extended warranties instead with no real solution. Perhaps Honda will wake up and put the 2.0 T 10speed auto in the future. Quite possibly the best powertrain combo on the market now because the CRV platform is one of the best if not currently the best on the market.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Alex was that on a 2020 Model ? because that would be great news. MY 2018 Touring cannot maintain heat in the coldest of temps even with the recall done. Taking the kids to school in the early hours only runs 30 minutes tops , to get any heat it takes driving in sport mode.
The oil dilution problem is a problem period. Doesn’t even matter if it affects you or nor because the car’s reputation is already tainted for resale because Honda refused to provide any fix.
Why no mention of the Subaru Forester being a direct competitor to Honda's CRV in AWD mode? Rear world driving CVT comparison would have been great. Much the same that Alex mentioned the inferior Jatco trans of Nissan, would have loved his opinion on the Subaru entrant. This aside, verrrrrry good and insightful review.
In the last few years Honda taken some serious hits to its reputation of building reliable cars. * There's an ongoing class action lawsuit over its faulty and reportedly unfixable infotainment system. * Every year since 2016 Consumer Reports has given the MDX no more than a 1 / 5 on reliability. * Again according to Consumer Reports, the Odyssey received a reliability rating of 1 / 5 in 2018 and a 2 / 5 in 2019. * There have been so many instances of problems with the 1.5 litre engine that Honda has extended the warranty on over 1 million of them.
I just leased a 2020 . They are apparently using a new oil that helps combat the oil dilution issue . I was going to lease a 2020 hrv because of the OD concerns in the crv 1.5 but its mickey mouse in comparison
You stated that the oil dilution problem is due to cold climate and short drives. I owned a 2017 Honda CR-V touring. I used it to commute to work where the coldest where it would get is 40 degrees. The oil dilution problem still occurred and Honda wouldn’t even attempt to remedy the issue. I ended up selling it only 2 years after ownership. It had 30k miles.
One of the changes in the 2020s is the smokey gray rear signals. I have a 2020 EX-L and I am surprised that I don't have a subwoofer. My 2008 CRV EX-L had a subwoofer. Hmm.
There's a known oil dilution problem but there are thousands of vehicles that dont have it.....So youre saying its a crapshoot if you get a shitty engine. Not a $30,000 gamble Im willing to take
I am not a fan of the pricing/trims approach taken by Toyota, where an LE or an XLE etc., is really a spectrum and not a trim with a defined set of features. From that perspective, I like the Honda approach, where there is zero confusion as to what an LX or an EX or an EX-L represents. I was looking at an Adventure trim of the RAV4, and the way Toyota piles in the options, into the units at the dealerships, we simply cannot get the model we want, at the pricing they are touting, while in case of the CRV, say in a Touring version, we get exactly what everyone else gets (a fully loaded version !), with zero options piled in to muddy the picture.
Our 2011 CRV A/C failed at 70,000 miles. Also the right rear axel failed in the same month. Honda told us to have a nice day. Owned a Prelude, Accord, Odessy and a CIVIC. Honda lost a long time customer. Also own a 2013 Camry and still drive a 2001 Camry. Toyota quality is much higher. When the CRV dies my money will go with the Reliable RAV4. I do not trust Honda to stand by the 1.5 l engine or the CVT transmission.
I have a 17 accord V6 touring. The transmission is just ok, it’s fast shifting but it’s not smooth, the ratios are very wide. A close ratio 10 speed would be a perfect match. The 10 speed with the 2.0 would be a nice pairing. I never liked cvts. To me it’s the "continuously slipping transmission ".
"DETROIT (AP) - Hyundai has found a new problem that can cause its car engines to fail or catch fire, issuing yet another recall to fix problems that have affected more than 6 million vehicles during the past 3 ½ years. The Korean automaker, under pressure from safety regulators, is recalling about 20,000 Veloster cars in the U.S. and Canada because fuel can prematurely ignite in the cylinders around the pistons. That can cause excessive pressure and damage the engine, causing vehicles to stall and in some cases catch fire, according to Hyundai documents posted Friday by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration... So far Hyundai and Kia have recalled about 2.4 million vehicles to fix problems that can cause fires and engine failures since 2015. In addition, the automakers are doing a “product improvement campaign” covering another 3.7 million vehicles to install software that will alert drivers of possible engine failures and send the cars into a reduced-speed “limp” mode if problems are detected. ( April 4, 2019)" At least they are not below average like European and Kourean brands.
@@eulie717 "omg, we get it. You feel burned by Hyundai. It’s become your personal mission to repost this wherever possible" Nope, You don't get anything. However, it is your mission to advertise a business that is backed by the crooked European businessmen, to kill the fair competition. This is your personal mission. Also, who do you refer to as "WE"?
The Ford Escape hybrid I drove, fully loaded titanium with hybrid, had a very noisy cabin and felt very cheap compared to the Rav4 and Maxda CX-5. Speaking of which, how does the new CRV measure up to the CX-5?
I see the only solution to this problem is getting synthetic oil refills at 6 month (not 12) intervals. Synthetics maintain their SAE ratings better than normal oils.
Alex - at 15:39, an A drops into fuel economy without definition/an mpg number. This was in the middle of you going from road noise to generationally elevated standards, or some similar sidetrack (which was long, even for you). Missed one, man.
Fuel dilution is pretty Normal for modern engines however the percentage per volume is what is detrimental.. 5% max is the critial number for any engine.. if its 2% to 3% Normal 3.5% time to change the oil.. Even with the best syn oil the Viscous Index is changed by this thus long-term reliability is questionable..
@@ALMX5DP CVT sucks period no matter how reviewers are trying to sugar coat a thurd . I would not be surprised if Honda , Subbie and Nissan in love with their cost saving CVT would "influence" these reviewers to talk highly or as good as they possibly force themselfs to about these cheesy CVTs.
@@ALMX5DP "In a memo sent to dealers, Honda’s manager of auto campaigns and recalls, Brad Ortloff, said oil in these engines could be diluted because of software settings or potential hardware failures. Some vehicles could experience “lack of power,” leading to cylinder misfires or engine noise." Consumer Reports "But if the vehicles are stalling, as some owners have reported, this is a safety issue and Honda should conduct an official recall, which doesn’t expire.” Consumer Reports
Norm T sure, but the issue noted by CR only has brought forward “dozens” of people who had such issues. Out of the hundreds of thousands on the road, it’s pretty rare. Honda has extended powertrain warranty and offers to fix components related to this if brought in with such symptoms. I don’t disagree that a recall may be warranted but seems like they are working it just fine for the relatively few cars affected.
I know. I want it but when I see it in person, I’m disappointed it isn’t periwinkle. I keep looking at it in different lights and the periwinkle just isn’t there in person.
Alex, Your stepping on your own reliability and past track record of complete honesty. The Oil Deloution problem is a really big problem, and Honda knows it and is doing nothing to remedy it. Despite the sales numbers that's because the new buyers do not fully understand how flawed the 1.5 direct injection turbo engine is. This is a engine that has gaurented future problems realatively quick. It's getting well known that savvy buyers are avoiding any honda with the 1.5 turbo direct injection engines.
"DETROIT (AP) - Hyundai has found a new problem that can cause its car engines to fail or catch fire, issuing yet another recall to fix problems that have affected more than 6 million vehicles during the past 3 ½ years. The Korean automaker, under pressure from safety regulators, is recalling about 20,000 Veloster cars in the U.S. and Canada because fuel can prematurely ignite in the cylinders around the pistons. That can cause excessive pressure and damage the engine, causing vehicles to stall and in some cases catch fire, according to Hyundai documents posted Friday by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration... So far Hyundai and Kia have recalled about 2.4 million vehicles to fix problems that can cause fires and engine failures since 2015. In addition, the automakers are doing a “product improvement campaign” covering another 3.7 million vehicles to install software that will alert drivers of possible engine failures and send the cars into a reduced-speed “limp” mode if problems are detected. ( April 4, 2019)" engines catching fire is big problem but you still promote Kourean cars so STFU bigoted hater
I passed on this cause I don't think I can live with an engine that requires that much attention to its heating period , definitely not made for Canada . Lo torque turbo seem fun but by defintion turbo and cold climate don't go well together unless you let roll your semi 16 hrs a day .I think it’s not for nothing that the 2.4 has been available longer here .
Better motor without the oil dilution problems. The Koreans build a better product these days IMO. And they got allot of BMW engineers working there. They are putting out stuff that challenges what the Germans offer. No body can make fun of Korean cars anymore. They got really serious in the last few years.
We did just that. Drove, all AWD, the CR-V EX, RAV4 XLE and hybrid LE (previous and current generation), Escape and previous generation Edge SEL, CX-5 Touring, Forester Premium, Equinox LT diesel and LT gas, and the Hyundai Santa Fe SEL+. We chose the Santa Fe. Why? Better value, most comfortable seats (as per the lovely) and a few inches wider than the rest to accommodate my carcass. A year and 16,000 miles later (including a 4500 mile cross country trip), we still like it a lot. Only one recall (ecm update) and regular service. In fact, we are debating as to replacing our seven year old second vehicle with another Santa Fe.
I recently got a CRV 2020 LX. it is great for the city but I got really disappointed with the excessive wind noise on highway. It seems as if one of your windows is a bit open.
Hi Alex, I was wondering why you didn't compare the Subaru Forester to the Honda CR-V in this review, since you did mention the Mazda CX-5 as being a runner up?
I was wondering this as well, but then near the end of the video when speaking about the leg room of the Ford Escape, I heard the phrase, "mid-size 2-row crossover." It's possible that he considers the Forester in another category than the RAV4 and Honda CR-V.
@@kdomster9141 Kick backs, no way. But if I had to guess, because Alex is so thorough and detailed in his reviews, he really can only reference/compare vehicles he's driven--and still give us an honest/fair review. And even though he has 334,000 subscribers, he's still not a mainstream auto magazine with access to every new vehicle out there. That's my theory anyway...
The Forester is a fine vehicle, but it falls squarely in the middle in just about every category. That makes it a solid choice, but it doesn’t make it stand out.
We just test drove all of these. I can't get past the shifter in the dash. Feels like a minivan. CVT is awful. I'm a huge Honda guy, but we went CX-5. Now that I have the CX-5 for a few weeks, there are things in the Honda I miss, but the Mazda just doesn't feel like an appliance. If my Toyota dealership wasn't so hard to deal with, I'd have a RAV.
Actually, it is for being a member. You get early access to some of the videos and a digital badge when you post. To sign up, from the TH-cam Alex on Autos Page click Join. It is a couple bucks a month.
Sure wish you could work out a collaboration deal with Consumer Reports (CR) as your and their reviews dovetail together very well. And CR has reliability ratings based on many thousands of owner surveys.
"DETROIT (AP) - Hyundai has found a new problem that can cause its car engines to fail or catch fire, issuing yet another recall to fix problems that have affected more than 6 million vehicles during the past 3 ½ years. The Korean automaker, under pressure from safety regulators, is recalling about 20,000 Veloster cars in the U.S. and Canada because fuel can prematurely ignite in the cylinders around the pistons. That can cause excessive pressure and damage the engine, causing vehicles to stall and in some cases catch fire, according to Hyundai documents posted Friday by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration... So far Hyundai and Kia have recalled about 2.4 million vehicles to fix problems that can cause fires and engine failures since 2015. In addition, the automakers are doing a “product improvement campaign” covering another 3.7 million vehicles to install software that will alert drivers of possible engine failures and send the cars into a reduced-speed “limp” mode if problems are detected. ( April 4, 2019)" Who gives the reliability ratings for Kourean cars?
I would sure like to see the 2.0 turbo motor from the Accord (along with the matching traditional transmission) in the CR-V. That would be more competitive with the bigger motor available in the CX-5.
@@Fadic4 While(Acura RDX -14.3) 4% or so is the average decline in MSRP at auction, some cars performed much worse than average. Here are the five worst cars for model years 2013 to 2015 for retained value in the third quarter, as compiled by KBB. 5. Acura RDX (-14.3%) The RDX was Acura's first compact luxury crossover SUV that showed up on dealer floors in 2006. While the vehicle has earned top ratings for safety from places such as the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, sites such as Consumer Reports found it to be something of a mixed bag, highlighting its safety features such as lane-departure warnings, but also saying its dashboard controls are "an exercise in needless stupidity." USAToday
@@Fadic4 "According to J.D. Power data, 44% of Acura RDX owners are female, compared to 45% for the compact premium SUV segment. Owners of the RDX have a median age of 57 years..."
One minor point. The 2017 CR-V did used to have touch sensitive volume control on the steering wheel. However looks like on the 2020, they cheaped out to cut cost and downgraded it to a volume toggle instead.
@@normt5463 its probably the only one of the assorted safety features I like and I'm a base model kinda guy so its a pisser . and yeah , I know ......what did we do before all these features came about blah blah , I hear ya.
how come you never talk about the mechanical and other issues that the cars have? Why don't you cover what Honda has done to improve the issue with their engines and AWD problems?
Alex says not to buy if you live somewhere with temperatures regularly below freezing and my question is does that mean any place with a Winter season where it’s generally a couple of months below freezing or the Arctic?
@Steve Jones Gasoline dilution in the oil, if you go test drive one, be sure and check the oil on the dip stick, if it is not in operating range and is way over that would be a sure sign there is gasoline dilution, I have heard some crvs have this problem some do not, hopefully Honda has fixed this problem I think it has been going on since the first model year of the CRV remodel.
@@peasantlaborer6084 the problem is more apparent if you live in cold area, the engine has to spray much more fuel than usual when it's still cold. I believe the fix is purely software to reduce the amount of fuel it sprays
@@kylosolo6128 I've also heard there is no fix. Regardless, this one needs to be avoided. When you hear of a serious issue with drive train that is enough to move on.
@JAASo sad... "In a memo sent to dealers, Honda’s manager of auto campaigns and recalls, Brad Ortloff, said oil in these engines could be diluted because of software settings or potential hardware failures. Some vehicles could experience “lack of power,” leading to cylinder misfires or engine noise." Consumer Reports "But if the vehicles are stalling, as some owners have reported, this is a safety issue and Honda should conduct an official recall, which doesn’t expire.” Consumer Reports
THE SUBARU FORRESTER is the BETTER BANG FOR THE BUCK because that has a TOUGHER AWD SYSTEM. The SUBARU HAS A NICER INTERIOR AND, FUEL ECONOMY is JUST AS GOOD. SUBARU FORRESTER also DOES OFF ROAD and HONDA DOESN'T (FOR ME THE HONDA CRV AWD IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME).
guys the oil dilution has an easy fix. DONT USE THE HONDA RECOMMENDED OIL. 0W20 is way to thin! 5W30 and dilution is zero. sure you lose 1-2% fuel economy tho....
@@stevewalkuski1115 honda has been using 5w30 for eons. 0w20 shift was made to save fuel econ an meet regulations. 5w30 is also in the manual as a recommend 2nd choice. this should fix the issue.
I picked my 2021 Honda CR-V EX-L AWD around 2 weeks ago and I love it. Very comfortable for daily and road trips, Good handling , nice specs and style.
I’ve been trying to decide between the model you bought and the 2022 Tucson. Did you consider anything else? I’ve test driven everything in this class except for the Rogue.
2 year update how has the CRV been for you?
@@Stormnorman15 Hey buddy. After 2 years I still have my 2021 CR-V AWD EX-L and 28,000 miles on. Every aspect has been the same except that I have to replace my tires but other than that it's a great vehicle and just keeping up with the regular maintenance etc.
I have a 2017 CRV and I couldn't be more pleased. Honda has been my choice for 14 years and not one problem with any of the cars that I have had from Honda.
You have a major engine problem and probably have no clue about the oil dilution problem or you are being paid by Honda.
People don’t know about Mazda 6 oil dilution problems because no one buys them. There are plenty of people on their forums complaining about it and have oil analysis test to show it. The same with the Elantra sport Di, go visit the forums.
The issues is mostly with direct injection, if you don’t drive it enough to let the engine warm up you’ll have oil dilution issues, cold weather and short trips are the most common scenarios for replicating this issues.
If you drive short trips everyday, don’t get any Direct injection engine if you plan on keeping the car long term.
As Alex stated, the reason you’re hearing about it in the CR-V is because it’s the best selling vehicles in its class.
Thanks, this tip was even better than the video.
What constitutes a "short trip" ? I won't ever drive less than 15 mins for the most part, seems that is plenty of time to "warm up"
@@ofcbob6391 i think 15 minutes should be enough in most temperatures, in the winter my 2.0 civic takes a decent amount of time to warm up.
Hi just bought a 2019 Honda Crv 13000 on the clock when sitting in car with engine running for about 15 minutes engine is wormed up ,got a vw caddy and this would not happen (Crv made in Japan don’t know if this is the difference) from Scotland thanks .
Just over two years of ownership in my 2021 CR-V Touring AWD and I have to say, I like it. Do I love it, no, but it does everything I want it to do. It is roomy for roady trips, my dog loves the car, trunk space is ample, there's a spare tire, and gas is way better than my prior 2011 CR-V. With the new CR-V out, so far, I am actually glad I got this model than the newer. Sure, the tech is all there and it is missing a lot of the premium tech like other cars (ie: 360 cam, a bigger infotainment screen, cooling seats, etc ) but again for my daily regular day to day, it's a good, reliable car. No problems with oil issue but just got a nice letter from Honda the other day r/e a warranty extension for their A/C compressor shaft seal leak. 3 yr/36 to 10yr/unlimited miles. Thanks Alex for the initial assessment of the car, was so good, even got the same color as the one you reviewed!
I bought a brand new EXL .Love it. quite ,comfortable, spacious, and economical. Best in its class. 4 million sold last year in US I'm not surprised.
I picked the same trim you got 2 weeks and I feel happy with my CR-V.
Good point about the 1.5T engine. My cousin in Taiwan bought a 1.5T CRV, and I also bought a 1.5T CRV in California 2 years ago. There is absolutely no problem with both of the engines.
Because you are in a warm climate. The problems generally occurs in cold climates....
These problems are inherent in all DI engines especially those with turbos.
@@a.r.walker6255 I think the excessive boost on this tiny motor also contributes to the issue. Honda's 2.0T does not have the same complaints. This one is boosted allot. Its pretty heavy vehicle for such a small displacement motor. That alone gives me ALLOT of pause.
@@a.r.walker6255_ "DETROIT (AP) - Hyundai has found a new problem that can cause its car engines to fail or catch fire, issuing yet another recall to fix problems that have affected more than 6 million vehicles during the past 3 ½ years.
The Korean automaker, under pressure from safety regulators, is recalling about 20,000 Veloster cars in the U.S. and Canada because fuel can prematurely ignite in the cylinders around the pistons. That can cause excessive pressure and damage the engine, causing vehicles to stall and in some cases catch fire, according to Hyundai documents posted Friday by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration...
So far Hyundai and Kia have recalled about 2.4 million vehicles to fix problems that can cause fires and engine failures since 2015. In addition, the automakers are doing a “product improvement campaign” covering another 3.7 million vehicles to install software that will alert drivers of possible engine failures and send the cars into a reduced-speed “limp” mode if problems are detected. (
April 4, 2019)"
Yes you should buy a Kourean car in the cold climate to keep it "hot"
HiPlains1 at 3358 pounds it’s not that heavy it’s actually one of the lighter options in the class in fact it’s around the weight of a MK4 Supra which is a 90s sports car
There is a huge problem with the 1.5T. Oil dilution. Perhaps you are ignoring it.
I'm so happy seeing everyone aware of the oil dilution problem. This can't be fixed with software because it clearly causes other issues. If you're not planning on keeping the car for more then 5 years then you have nothing to worry about. If you plan on this being a forever car, plan on the engine dying sooner then expected. Honda doesn't have to do anything because the problems won't show up for a while.
@@brian55911 did you have the "fix" done? Did it work?
@@brian55911 that sounds like a terrible experience. Which year was this?
It's amazing to me that wet cement gray has become such a popular color. I'm not saying I don't like it, I do. It's just... what a time to be alive.
You mean primer color
Undercoat gray 🤔
@@Methnerjacob prosthetic color!
I am definitely not taking a shot every time Alex says definitely.
Just got a 2021 Hybrid Touring in the same color in this video absolutely love it! Can go 600 miles on a tank of gas, has a better AWD system then the RAV4 and actually ranks higher in reliability then the RAV4. Interior quality is high end lots of soft touch materials and not hard plastic. This is my 9th Honda product and keep buying them for good reason
Very thorough review. This reviewer knows his stuff! Unlike some of these other reviewers, who don't know what they are doing.
Just got one in Modern Steel Metallic (LX ) trim and have no regrets!!
What about the oil dilution issue? Did you encounter it ?
You are the greatest vehicles reviewer on TH-cam but base on your comment, if I live in the Midwest and/or Canada, I should not buy this CR-V. I do warm up my cars/trucks in the winter times for at least 5-10 Min before using the vehicle though. Another great review. Thanks!!
I LIVE in NEW YORK STATE. With the WINTER MONTHS being COLD, it's A GOOD IDEA TO START THE CAR and let the car WARM UP. Thank god for REMORT START. The REMORT START is more NECESSITY than CONVENIENCE or vice versa depending on how you see it.
@@clarencewhite6053 if you are only driving once or twice a week, would it be a good idea to remote start in between trips, letting it run for a bit to mitigate possible oil dilution?
I picked the Subaru Forester last year and would continue to do so. Great ride, seamless and responsive CVT, very roomy, and better than 31 mpg overall after >15,000 miles.
....from pouring rain under the guter! Forester and Subbie has CVT as well , people should stop buying these vahicles and Subbie could easily use solid 6 , 7 or 8 speed ATX that would serve low speed and high torque allocation like Forester. It would be way more drivable and better suited for AWD without CVT.
My friends Legacy's CVT just pooped out at 65K miles after religious maintnance and women with kids driving it calmly . These things suck with performance and reliability , 2mph on highway gained are soooo not worth it!!!
Unfortunately, the direct injection engine, auto-start stop and a problematic CVT add up to the Forester not being the leader in the class anymore. I also think more people are catching on to the facf that the new Subaru AWD systems aren’t what they used to be. Plus, it’s sadly slow.
I have an Outback (I know we are talking about the Forester), and I wanted to chime in with my experience. I had to have the transmission replaced at ~70,000. That is NOT good reliability. I drove it conservatively and never went off roading with it. Thank goodness Subaru extended the warranty on the transmission so I did not have to pay for the replacement (something like $9000!!!). None the less, even though I love my Subaru, I am getting very nervous about other items failing as I get close to 100k miles. I will be trading it in this year for either an Accord or a CR-V. If they put the bigger 2.0T motor and transmission from the Accord into the CR-V, I will definitely get the CR-V as I prefer an SUV over a sedan. However, I REALLY want the more powerful engine, so I will probably end up with the Accord (pretty sure the CR-V won't get the bigger engine this year, if ever).
@@macmuchmore1 ....sorry to hear your story , CX5 2.5t would make you smile ! Accord's 10 speed is just too many... it reliability while better than CVT is still unknown .
When I drove this 10 speed other than quick acceleration in normal driving it was hunting for gears and not always shifting smoothly.
6 speed from Mazda is super relaible , always in the correct gear and very intuitive, even that likely it is 1 or 2 not enough it seemed much better than 10 speed from Accord.
k domster I test drove the CX-5 (non turbo) back to back with the CR-V. It was MUCH more engaging (it was like driving it via ESP lol) and the interior is really nice. I’m sure the 2.5t is amazing. Unfortunately, I’m just not a fan of its styling. I think it’s ok, but a little too polarizing for me.
Honda is highly competitive. I am positive the CR-V will be upgraded in 2021. I like to see power folding mirror, 360* camera, HUD and ventilated seats. BTW we have the 2016 Civic with the 1.5 turbo and love it.
If I had to switch cars I will likely pickup a RAV4 Hybrid today. Having said that RAV4 also has some weaknesses. I will wait for the CR-V in the 2021 model year.
RAV4 Prime looks promising. It will be way cheaper to run for daily short commutes than any CRV.
These are economy SUVs you keep wanting more from!
Danny Boy more features is gonna cost more at least $40k
You get all that in a Hyundai. What are you waiting for? Oh, right...
I eliminated the Toyota RAV 4. The rear doors and rear seats of the Honda CR-V and the Nissan Rogue are far superior, their doors open wider and are much easy to get in and out off.
Also, the lease rates on the Toyota are higher resulting in higher monthly payments.
Thanks for another awesome review. I would almost agree with your top pick, the RAV4 Hybrid, but the gas tank fill issue takes it totally out of the running.
I’ve CRV since 2018 and very satisfied across the board performance. I live in relative colder area of NA in Ontario and my driving habit doesn’t warrant the oil dilution even and local dealer recalled it regardless and made hardware and software changes. Great fuel economy
I’m in Ontario too. Where did you buy yours? I’m worried about the dealerships in my area for service. I’m in the GTA.
Milton , Team Honda
Alex your right its the older first Nissan CVTs that had the issues. ive posted this before. The maintenance is the Key. My 17 Altima had 100,000miles when traded and i did what the service asked for. Never any issues with it.
Some of those Jatco CVT's were just bad with Nissan. They would fail before the first CVT fluid change. Junk. They got a bunch of new models out. Hopefully they learned their lesson. They better, they are near bankruptcy now. Sell allot of cars but have very little margin. They have to discount heavy to move them.
Alex always love your reviews. If I was buying a SUV in this category I would take a good look at the Subaru Forester. While the Ford sounds intriguing I"m a little afraid of the brand reliability.
In general terms Subaru’s reliability is similar to Ford. Subarus are not as reliable in general as Honda or Toyota options.
I own a Ford Mustang and Honda CR-V. My Fords have always been reliable and never an issue.
Oil dilution is a currently known problem, it's not exclusive to Honda. the problem is that Honda has clearly communicated that it intends to do nothing about the problem. As he says, I should try something else. I did; I bought a Passport. Interestingly, the Passport Touring has more and better features, a far superior engine and transmission, uses cheaper gar to mitigate the cost of operation compared to the high octane gar required here, and provides far more space. Yes, the Passport costs more, in may dealership, about $4,000 more. Hey, a major repair on the cheese box racing engine in the CR-V will cost that much.
If I was in a market for a new CR-V (currently own a 2008 CR-V EX AWD with 160K), I would seriously consider a 2020 CR-V except for (1) Honda needs to replace the infotainment system with either the one from the Accord or Odyssey and (2) concerns about the oil dilution problem that I've read about. Even the upcoming Hybrid model has the same infotainment system in the regular CR-V. C'mon Honda, what's up with that? It's the same with the Civic line; having an older/outdated infotainment system. Wouldn't it be easier for them to just have one infotainment system, from a cost/SKU/manufacturing perspective?
Also I am highly disappointed with how the removed the USB port from inside the centre arm rest area and rather put 2 usb ports in the central console below gear with no place to put the phone except only 1 place to put the phone , how stupid. It was better when you can charge it away inside the center arm rest opening away from prying eyes. Especially when you are parked somewhere small time and you leave the phone inside.
Most people don't even personally check their oil level and will never know if their car has a problem or not.
Good point
There are a solid 3 inches of bezel around the touchscreen that can be used to expand the touch screen to at least 9 inches and make it class leading
I'd rather not have any touch screen.
If it wasn't for the oil dilution issue with Honda's turbos I would consider this CRV...but seeing how Honda has tried to avoid taking responsibility and less than responsive to customers complaints, I will pass.
Looking forward to the hybrid!
For $15 to $20 a easy oil sample and analysis can tell the rate of Fuel dilution of the lubricating oil.. then tailor your service interval around the mileage or months between services i would not rely on the Honda oil life maintenance indicator in the dash.. in my opinion based on oil analysis i think Hyundai and Kia has a better handle on GDI and Turbo GDi serving vs fuel dilution within the window of your service intervals..
I have CRV and Rogue, both great for family duties and Swedish flat pack transportation
Should have the Accord 2.0T engine and 10 speed transmission as an option. I buy it and Acura RDX not selling well anyways so Honda should do the 2.0T!
Bought my 2020 CR-V touring last week.
How is it ?
It’s nice! Gets great gas mileage. 30.9 mpg.
I had Mercedes E350 sport for 6 years. It was a money pit and had to buy new
Tires every 19000 miles. Oil change B service $799. Crazy!
Both had wind noise that bothers me.
@@Bettintx how much did you pay for it ?
$32000. Sams club auto discount, true value and $500 military discount brought it down.
Also I bought my husband a new Civic the same day. He has had 5 Civics since 2007 and won’t drive anything else. My favorites have been the Cadillacs I owned. I don’t travel anymore so the CRV is great for grocery shopping loading in and out.
After reading about the oil dilution problem, I scratched Honda off my list.
Have a 2017 Touring. At 6,000 miles on an oil change, crankcase has 3/4-1 quart of additional 'oil' (gasoline) in it. Measured what I took out vs what the engine takes. This engine has a serious oil dilution problem. Will be our last Honda for sure. And no, it's not just 'short trips/cold climate.' Average trips are 50+ miles, and care is rarely driven in the winter months at all.
Am I the only one who doesn't want a huge touch screen in my dash? With the touchscreen visuals integrated into the instrument cluster and the controls in the steering wheel, I find the touchscreens to be redundant and dust magnets. Instead of the extra money for a bigger screen, I'd rather that be spent towards adjustable lumbar. Yes Civic, I'm talking to you. LOL
i love honda crv 😍
Just once I wish he would test a base trim model. He Always tests the top trim, most people cannot afford that and he should realize this.
can't wait for the hybrid review, thats the model to watch this year from Honda imo.
Totally agree. I skipped buying the CRV because of the oil dilution with the 1.5Turbo and bought a Forester
Rick Rolled lmao you bought a car from Subaru because you thought it would be more reliable? Good luck bud.
@@Fadic4 why would I roll the dice on the oil diluting earthdreams engine. No thanks.
Rick Rolled your dice roll with Subaru has way worse odds my man, I hope you bought the extended warranty or you’ll sell your car after the warranty is up.
@@Fadic4 better than an oil dilution problem and ruined chinese engine.
RE: Oil Dilution. People who drive very short distances, have cold winters, and the engine never warms up are the perfect candidates for an electric car. I have a neighbor that drives her car less than a mile to work and occasionally drives it maybe five miles to go shopping. A gasoline or diesel engine is a very poor choice of power plant for this sort of usage.
That said, the hybrid version of the CR-V and the RAV4 are the most sensible way to own one of these. Folks, if you have a daily short commute and rarely take long drives please consider a new or used EV or at least a PHEV. You and the planet will be much better off.
HYbrids are not very efficient in cold weather. NA engines are the best
If you live in an apartment, you might not have anywhere to plug one in.
Sounds like the CR-V is holding up rather well. I can't wait for the hybrid version with mechanical AWD.
Tell that to owners being told to change oil every 2K miles for oil dilution. Junk engine. 1.5L is too small with excessive boost. The 2.4 was a much better power plant. Those did last forever. This not a a chance. This is a big step backwards for Honda. This one you need to avoid like the plague.
@@HiPlains1 : My comment was about the hybrid, which will use a naturally-aspirated engine.
HiPlains1 they should have paired the 2.4 with the 10 speed.
@@HiPlains1 I own 2 CRV'S with the 2.4 engine, one a 2012 and the other a 2016. Those engines have always run well and seems well suited for an SUV. I can't speak of the 1.5 but as someone that buys CRV's I must say that going down to that small engine might make me buy a different SUV down the road when I need a new SUV. Without knowing I do worry that the smaller engine won't hold up in the long run and or not be very quick. It is a factor for sure. I love my CRV's but Im not sure Im willing to give up a 2.4 engine for a smaller one even if that's 2.0 I wont do it.
@@phillm156 Agreed.
Fuel dilution is a problem, and especially one in cold climates. My 2017 civic turbo would have 1% gas in the oil at ~3000 miles according to blackstone labs results I would get, and that was in Georgia. I imagine in higher stress in a AWD system in an SUV in the winter climates would really kill long term engine health...
If you drive a mile on a daily basis, you should not get CR-V....Hmmm...may be you don't need a CAR !
It all adds up dude. One can take longer trips then maybe run to the 7-11 and grocery store for short hops during cold weather. Once the gas drops in oil it stays until you change the oil. So it can add up. There is no excuse and their is no fix for this problem. They over boosted a tiny motor which causes the issue (which in itself should give one pause for the longevity of a smallish engine being over worked). Their 2.0T does not have these issues. Really not worth even considering when you have other brands that are bullet proof. Honda needs to drop the engine. And the problem is far worse then this guy lets you think. He is sugar coating it. Big time. Allot of die hard honda fans are avoiding this one like the plague. In short, don't trust this review. Talk to the owners on the forums.
Must be LA
@@HiPlains1 "In a memo sent to dealers, Honda’s manager of auto campaigns and recalls, Brad Ortloff, said oil in these engines could be diluted because of software settings or potential hardware failures. Some vehicles could experience “lack of power,” leading to cylinder misfires or engine noise." Consumer Reports
"But if the vehicles are stalling, as some owners have reported, this is a safety issue and Honda should conduct an official recall, which doesn’t expire.” Consumer Reports
@@HiPlains1 I did talk to owners on the forums and practically had my life threatened (no joke) for asking about oil dilution. I was told if I persisted in asking and spreading lies, and I’d only asked one question regarding if it was still an issue, I would be banned from the forum and I had better watch my back. This was from the admins. It didn’t really answer my question and put me off the vehicle.
@@eulie717 oh yeah that forum is definitely getting a kickback from the OEM that's crazy. Personally I just don't know about these small overboosted engines I think they're 2 liter turbo is a pretty decent motor probably the Honda accords are last decent car they make. But I'd stay away from that 1.5. but I've heard over and over that Honda is not what they used to be as far as reliability and they've kind of lost their way and are drowned out in the SUV market and the truck they make is low volume it's a niche truck I don't know what you call it. I guess a front wheel drive uni body car truck. But folks still want more capability they don't care about the soft ride they want more lift and body on frame ruggedness. Honda really doesn't have a decent SUV or a truck for that matter and that's pretty much what sells now.
Price to replace halogen bulbs, about $20. Price to replace LED, minimum $400. I'm NOT disappointed that they leave the LEDs on the high-end trims that only people who can afford $400 headlight "bulb" changes buy.
All that TH-cam, Patreon, and sponsor money are making Alex lose touch with the reality most people live in.
LEDs last the lfie of the car Kuya
LEDs are designed to last the life of the car (or beyond). Replacement is extremely rare and the costs are generally below $400. Toyota has been using LEDs in all trims of their inexpensive vehicles for a while and there have really been no issues.
Okay, if the LED headlights last as long as the car, you win. I'm a convert. Thank you, both.
Rocks can always break LEDs, but usually you would only lose one or two of the lights, I believe, not all of them.
I also think the NISSAN ROGUE has a NICER INTERIOR pre 2021 as well as 2021 DEFINITELY.
Great review, as usual, but the Subaru Forester and the Mazda CX-5 were conspicuous by their absence in the comparison at the end. Also, citing reliability as a con for the Rogue but not for the Chevy or the Ford, which are even more unreliable, was curious!
I agree regarding the comparison between the CRV and Forester. I was in the market for a similar vehicle and would have really benefited from a comparison. Although this is a very good review of the CRV, thanks for the good work.
CX-5 was mentioned in the comparison. 25:04
Honda CR-V's are decent SUV's, if you force Honda to fix issues that are over 10 years old, and don't buy a Turbo 4. You will also need $500 of soundproofing for it to match the Rav-4 on the road noise.
Alex , it's not so much OD , It's the problems created by it or associated with the 1.5L. The Biggest is ability to build heat within local stop and go driving. Highway driving no problem, but if you drive stop and go you will never be able to build cabin heat and below 32 degree weather. Even worse when in the single digits. I cannot speak for the 2020's but hopefully its been somewhat fixed. The OD issue can be overcome by changing the oil more frequently. It's a shame Honda has taken a wait and see attitude and is handing out extended warranties instead with no real solution. Perhaps Honda will wake up and put the 2.0 T 10speed auto in the future. Quite possibly the best powertrain combo on the market now because the CRV platform is one of the best if not currently the best on the market.
I’ve driven this 1.5t in -18 degree weather and it had zero problems heating the cabin.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Alex was that on a 2020 Model ? because that would be great news. MY 2018 Touring cannot maintain heat in the coldest of temps even with the recall done. Taking the kids to school in the early hours only runs 30 minutes tops , to get any heat it takes driving in sport mode.
The oil dilution problem is a problem period.
Doesn’t even matter if it affects you or nor because the car’s reputation is already tainted for resale because Honda refused to provide any fix.
Why no mention of the Subaru Forester being a direct competitor to Honda's CRV in AWD mode? Rear world driving CVT comparison would have been great. Much the same that Alex mentioned the inferior Jatco trans of Nissan, would have loved his opinion on the Subaru entrant. This aside, verrrrrry good and insightful review.
In the last few years Honda taken some serious hits to its reputation of building reliable cars.
* There's an ongoing class action lawsuit over its faulty and reportedly unfixable infotainment system.
* Every year since 2016 Consumer Reports has given the MDX no more than a 1 / 5 on reliability.
* Again according to Consumer Reports, the Odyssey received a reliability rating of 1 / 5 in 2018 and a 2 / 5 in 2019.
* There have been so many instances of problems with the 1.5 litre engine that Honda has extended the warranty on over 1 million of them.
so.... get a Toyota?
I just leased a 2020 . They are apparently using a new oil that helps combat the oil dilution issue . I was going to lease a 2020 hrv because of the OD concerns in the crv 1.5 but its mickey mouse in comparison
You stated that the oil dilution problem is due to cold climate and short drives. I owned a 2017 Honda CR-V touring. I used it to commute to work where the coldest where it would get is 40 degrees. The oil dilution problem still occurred and Honda wouldn’t even attempt to remedy the issue. I ended up selling it only 2 years after ownership. It had 30k miles.
It is really bad!
chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/06/10/honda-cr-v-mark-baranski-not-welcome-joliet-dealership-invoice/
Norm T mine was so bad you could smell it fuel when you pulled the dipstick.
One of the changes in the 2020s is the smokey gray rear signals. I have a 2020 EX-L and I am surprised that I don't have a subwoofer. My 2008 CRV EX-L had a subwoofer. Hmm.
There's a known oil dilution problem but there are thousands of vehicles that dont have it.....So youre saying its a crapshoot if you get a shitty engine. Not a $30,000 gamble Im willing to take
I am not a fan of the pricing/trims approach taken by Toyota, where an LE or an XLE etc., is really a spectrum and not a trim with a defined set of features. From that perspective, I like the Honda approach, where there is zero confusion as to what an LX or an EX or an EX-L represents.
I was looking at an Adventure trim of the RAV4, and the way Toyota piles in the options, into the units at the dealerships, we simply cannot get the model we want, at the pricing they are touting, while in case of the CRV, say in a Touring version, we get exactly what everyone else gets (a fully loaded version !), with zero options piled in to muddy the picture.
Hope to see a comparison between the CRV and RDX
Our 2011 CRV A/C failed at 70,000 miles. Also the right rear axel failed in the same month. Honda told us to have a nice day. Owned a Prelude, Accord, Odessy and a CIVIC. Honda lost a long time customer. Also own a 2013 Camry and still drive a 2001 Camry. Toyota quality is much higher. When the CRV dies my money will go with the Reliable RAV4. I do not trust Honda to stand by the 1.5 l engine or the CVT transmission.
Wait a year or two on the Rav, I have heard Toyota is having some problems with new 8 speed transmission, still working out the kinks.
meh , my brake lines needed replacing and the dealer gave me more than fair trade value towards a new model . I guess it depends on the dealer .
@Frank L He also says BMW makes the best engines? Which one is it
A very well done review. Thank you
Thanks to the top camera, now we know that you drive like in video game.
Who all wish Honda bring 10 speed auto with 2.0 turbo in crv
Sounds like an RDX lol
richard165s kotch
CVT needs to die. It has no advantages anymore. Marketing hype.
6 speed auto with 2.5 L naturally aspirated would make me happy!
I have a 17 accord V6 touring. The transmission is just ok, it’s fast shifting but it’s not smooth, the ratios are very wide. A close ratio 10 speed would be a perfect match. The 10 speed with the 2.0 would be a nice pairing. I never liked cvts. To me it’s the "continuously slipping transmission ".
I remember when Honda and Toyota (and Lexus) went toe to toe in the reliability surveys - always at the top. Now, Honda is recently showing average.
"DETROIT (AP) - Hyundai has found a new problem that can cause its car engines to fail or catch fire, issuing yet another recall to fix problems that have affected more than 6 million vehicles during the past 3 ½ years.
The Korean automaker, under pressure from safety regulators, is recalling about 20,000 Veloster cars in the U.S. and Canada because fuel can prematurely ignite in the cylinders around the pistons. That can cause excessive pressure and damage the engine, causing vehicles to stall and in some cases catch fire, according to Hyundai documents posted Friday by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration...
So far Hyundai and Kia have recalled about 2.4 million vehicles to fix problems that can cause fires and engine failures since 2015. In addition, the automakers are doing a “product improvement campaign” covering another 3.7 million vehicles to install software that will alert drivers of possible engine failures and send the cars into a reduced-speed “limp” mode if problems are detected. (
April 4, 2019)"
At least they are not below average like European and Kourean brands.
Especially Honda's Acura division. Those cars' reliability dropped tremendously.
@@squidproquo2241 omg, we get it. You feel burned by Hyundai. It’s become your personal mission to repost this wherever possible.
@@eulie717 "omg, we get it. You feel burned by Hyundai. It’s become your personal mission to repost this wherever possible"
Nope, You don't get anything.
However, it is your mission to advertise a business that is backed by the crooked European businessmen, to kill the fair competition. This is your personal mission.
Also, who do you refer to as "WE"?
A's across the board, that's nice!
The Ford Escape hybrid I drove, fully loaded titanium with hybrid, had a very noisy cabin and felt very cheap compared to the Rav4 and Maxda CX-5. Speaking of which, how does the new CRV measure up to the CX-5?
CR-V more space for sure and better for the family with kids, CX5 is best for two people or with one child.
But how long will that 1.5 turbo hold up? Oil dilution may cause excessive wear.
I see the only solution to this problem is getting synthetic oil refills at 6 month (not 12) intervals. Synthetics maintain their SAE ratings better than normal oils.
Alex - at 15:39, an A drops into fuel economy without definition/an mpg number. This was in the middle of you going from road noise to generationally elevated standards, or some similar sidetrack (which was long, even for you). Missed one, man.
Fuel dilution is pretty Normal for modern engines however the percentage per volume is what is detrimental.. 5% max is the critial number for any engine.. if its 2% to 3% Normal 3.5% time to change the oil.. Even with the best syn oil the Viscous Index is changed by this thus long-term reliability is questionable..
Honda 1.5 turbo...you get a free oil fill up from your petrol. :-(
Mein Kapu did you even watch?
@@ALMX5DP CVT sucks period no matter how reviewers are trying to sugar coat a thurd .
I would not be surprised if Honda , Subbie and Nissan in love with their cost saving CVT would "influence" these reviewers to talk highly or as good as they possibly force themselfs to about these cheesy CVTs.
k domster why are you bringing up a CVT? Nothing to do with the OP’s comment.
@@ALMX5DP "In a memo sent to dealers, Honda’s manager of auto campaigns and recalls, Brad Ortloff, said oil in these engines could be diluted because of software settings or potential hardware failures. Some vehicles could experience “lack of power,” leading to cylinder misfires or engine noise." Consumer Reports
"But if the vehicles are stalling, as some owners have reported, this is a safety issue and Honda should conduct an official recall, which doesn’t expire.” Consumer Reports
Norm T sure, but the issue noted by CR only has brought forward “dozens” of people who had such issues. Out of the hundreds of thousands on the road, it’s pretty rare. Honda has extended powertrain warranty and offers to fix components related to this if brought in with such symptoms. I don’t disagree that a recall may be warranted but seems like they are working it just fine for the relatively few cars affected.
10/10 rating for front seats; eat your heart out, RAV4.
I like the arm rest.
If it don't have that famous 2.4 engine in it then I don't want it.
Yes. I agree. The engine that was pre-2015 without GDI.
All versions come with 235 width tires not 225 and don't forget to mention the navigation on top trim!
I've seen this color in person and I know it's gray, but in every video I've seen, it comes off as periwinkle. That's a color I never say...
The actual name of that gray color is called Sonic Gray.
I know. I want it but when I see it in person, I’m disappointed it isn’t periwinkle. I keep looking at it in different lights and the periwinkle just isn’t there in person.
Thank you my friend i was getting really rite of people complaining for nothing
Alex, Your stepping on your own reliability and past track record of complete honesty.
The Oil Deloution problem is a really big problem, and Honda knows it and is doing nothing to remedy it. Despite the sales numbers that's because the new buyers do not fully understand how flawed the 1.5 direct injection turbo engine is. This is a engine that has gaurented future problems realatively quick. It's getting well known that savvy buyers are avoiding any honda with the 1.5 turbo direct injection engines.
"DETROIT (AP) - Hyundai has found a new problem that can cause its car engines to fail or catch fire, issuing yet another recall to fix problems that have affected more than 6 million vehicles during the past 3 ½ years.
The Korean automaker, under pressure from safety regulators, is recalling about 20,000 Veloster cars in the U.S. and Canada because fuel can prematurely ignite in the cylinders around the pistons. That can cause excessive pressure and damage the engine, causing vehicles to stall and in some cases catch fire, according to Hyundai documents posted Friday by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration...
So far Hyundai and Kia have recalled about 2.4 million vehicles to fix problems that can cause fires and engine failures since 2015. In addition, the automakers are doing a “product improvement campaign” covering another 3.7 million vehicles to install software that will alert drivers of possible engine failures and send the cars into a reduced-speed “limp” mode if problems are detected. (
April 4, 2019)"
engines catching fire is big problem but you still promote Kourean cars so STFU bigoted hater
its a good engine
I passed on this cause I don't think I can live with an engine that requires that much attention to its heating period , definitely not made for Canada . Lo torque turbo seem fun but by defintion turbo and cold climate don't go well together unless you let roll your semi 16 hrs a day .I think it’s not for nothing that the 2.4 has been available longer here .
agreed.
Since the Hyundai Santa Fe is in the same price range, I'd go for the Santa Fe
Better motor without the oil dilution problems. The Koreans build a better product these days IMO. And they got allot of BMW engineers working there. They are putting out stuff that challenges what the Germans offer. No body can make fun of Korean cars anymore. They got really serious in the last few years.
We did just that. Drove, all AWD, the CR-V EX, RAV4 XLE and hybrid LE (previous and current generation), Escape and previous generation Edge SEL, CX-5 Touring, Forester Premium, Equinox LT diesel and LT gas, and the Hyundai Santa Fe SEL+. We chose the Santa Fe. Why? Better value, most comfortable seats (as per the lovely) and a few inches wider than the rest to accommodate my carcass. A year and 16,000 miles later (including a 4500 mile cross country trip), we still like it a lot. Only one recall (ecm update) and regular service. In fact, we are debating as to replacing our seven year old second vehicle with another Santa Fe.
@@sntstafford
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I recently got a CRV 2020 LX. it is great for the city but I got really disappointed with the excessive wind noise on highway. It seems as if one of your windows is a bit open.
I will probably consider a loaded CRV next if Honda puts the 2.0l turbo, 10 speed AT and improve their weak AWD system.
Hi Alex, I was wondering why you didn't compare the Subaru Forester to the Honda CR-V in this review, since you did mention the Mazda CX-5 as being a runner up?
Exactly, CX5 is superb in this class.
I wonder if these reviewers are getting kick backs from manufacturers.
I was wondering this as well, but then near the end of the video when speaking about the leg room of the Ford Escape, I heard the phrase, "mid-size 2-row crossover." It's possible that he considers the Forester in another category than the RAV4 and Honda CR-V.
@@kdomster9141 Kick backs, no way. But if I had to guess, because Alex is so thorough and detailed in his reviews, he really can only reference/compare vehicles he's driven--and still give us an honest/fair review. And even though he has 334,000 subscribers, he's still not a mainstream auto magazine with access to every new vehicle out there. That's my theory anyway...
@@ragweedmakesmesneeze Maybe they just influence them into promoting CVT at least by not critocizing it as much as it deserves.
The Forester is a fine vehicle, but it falls squarely in the middle in just about every category. That makes it a solid choice, but it doesn’t make it stand out.
We just test drove all of these. I can't get past the shifter in the dash. Feels like a minivan. CVT is awful. I'm a huge Honda guy, but we went CX-5. Now that I have the CX-5 for a few weeks, there are things in the Honda I miss, but the Mazda just doesn't feel like an appliance. If my Toyota dealership wasn't so hard to deal with, I'd have a RAV.
This is not a Nissan CVT , it's way superior and I like the way the cockpit looks , feels like I'm in a fighter jet.
Interesting. Looks nice. Thanks for the review.
how did you get that Alex on Autos logo in your screen name?
Penelope416 Because I am super cool. And they give it to short guys. 🤓
Actually, it is for being a member. You get early access to some of the videos and a digital badge when you post. To sign up, from the TH-cam Alex on Autos Page click Join. It is a couple bucks a month.
@@LeoTheShortGuy Ok cool.
Sure wish you could work out a collaboration deal with Consumer Reports (CR) as your and their reviews dovetail together very well. And CR has reliability ratings based on many thousands of owner surveys.
"DETROIT (AP) - Hyundai has found a new problem that can cause its car engines to fail or catch fire, issuing yet another recall to fix problems that have affected more than 6 million vehicles during the past 3 ½ years.
The Korean automaker, under pressure from safety regulators, is recalling about 20,000 Veloster cars in the U.S. and Canada because fuel can prematurely ignite in the cylinders around the pistons. That can cause excessive pressure and damage the engine, causing vehicles to stall and in some cases catch fire, according to Hyundai documents posted Friday by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration...
So far Hyundai and Kia have recalled about 2.4 million vehicles to fix problems that can cause fires and engine failures since 2015. In addition, the automakers are doing a “product improvement campaign” covering another 3.7 million vehicles to install software that will alert drivers of possible engine failures and send the cars into a reduced-speed “limp” mode if problems are detected. (
April 4, 2019)"
Who gives the reliability ratings for Kourean cars?
I really dont understand why car manufacturers are still giving us temporary spare tyres ... at least a full size in steel rims would be fine..
I would sure like to see the 2.0 turbo motor from the Accord (along with the matching traditional transmission) in the CR-V. That would be more competitive with the bigger motor available in the CX-5.
The CR-V can already top out at over $35K. A 2.0T engine option would put it at Acura prices with a economy car nameplate.
Just get the RDX lol
@@Fadic4
While(Acura RDX -14.3) 4% or so is the average decline in MSRP at auction, some cars performed much worse than average. Here are the five worst cars for model years 2013 to 2015 for retained value in the third quarter, as compiled by KBB.
5. Acura RDX (-14.3%)
The RDX was Acura's first compact luxury crossover SUV that showed up on dealer floors in 2006. While the vehicle has earned top ratings for safety from places such as the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, sites such as Consumer Reports found it to be something of a mixed bag, highlighting its safety features such as lane-departure warnings, but also saying its dashboard controls are "an exercise in needless stupidity." USAToday
@@Fadic4 "According to J.D. Power data, 44% of Acura RDX owners are female, compared to 45% for the compact premium SUV segment. Owners of the RDX have a median age of 57 years..."
Norm T RDX is better overall vehicle specially with the new platform.
One minor point. The 2017 CR-V did used to have touch sensitive volume control on the steering wheel. However looks like on the 2020, they cheaped out to cut cost and downgraded it to a volume toggle instead.
T Sizzle nah they changed it because people complained that it was too responsive the slightest touch would raise the volume very fast
I think as the Honda Breeze (in China) it looks better on the exterior.
YEA. Iwish they had the PANARAMIC ROOF in the U.S BUY THE HONDA CRV'S IN CANADA COST WAY MORE.
Really, not for me. The 1.5T is a killer. NO way it will last more than 150K miles without major and expensive overhaul. Thanks.
it will go forever
most of these suv entry models dont have blind spot monitering in base models which is brutal
What did we do until they put driver and passenger side mirrors on our cars!!!
@@normt5463 its probably the only one of the assorted safety features I like and I'm a base model kinda guy so its a pisser . and yeah , I know ......what did we do before all these features came about blah blah , I hear ya.
I'll take one in the "too-ring" trim.
how come you never talk about the mechanical and other issues that the cars have? Why don't you cover what Honda has done to improve the issue with their engines and AWD problems?
Panoramic roof is available in Canada since 2017
Alex says not to buy if you live somewhere with temperatures regularly below freezing and my question is does that mean any place with a Winter season where it’s generally a couple of months below freezing or the Arctic?
Honda Interior with leather seats feels nicer compared to RAV 4, which feels more industrial kind...
The 1.5 L engine has been problematic.
Not for me. I'm in Maryland
@Steve Jones Gasoline dilution in the oil, if you go test drive one, be sure and check the oil on the dip stick, if it is not in operating range and is way over that would be a sure sign there is gasoline dilution, I have heard some crvs have this problem some do not, hopefully Honda has fixed this problem I think it has been going on since the first model year of the CRV remodel.
@@peasantlaborer6084 the problem is more apparent if you live in cold area, the engine has to spray much more fuel than usual when it's still cold. I believe the fix is purely software to reduce the amount of fuel it sprays
@@kylosolo6128 I've also heard there is no fix. Regardless, this one needs to be avoided. When you hear of a serious issue with drive train that is enough to move on.
@JAASo sad...
"In a memo sent to dealers, Honda’s manager of auto campaigns and recalls, Brad Ortloff, said oil in these engines could be diluted because of software settings or potential hardware failures. Some vehicles could experience “lack of power,” leading to cylinder misfires or engine noise." Consumer Reports
"But if the vehicles are stalling, as some owners have reported, this is a safety issue and Honda should conduct an official recall, which doesn’t expire.” Consumer Reports
I rented this car today. The CVT really destroys an otherwise very competent car.
Great video and advice
I have terrible gas in oil situation and now hesitation. Engine will be half life. No LED-lights and cooling seats was a let down too,
What about the Mazda CX-5 and Subaru Forester
THE SUBARU FORRESTER is the BETTER BANG FOR THE BUCK because that has a TOUGHER AWD SYSTEM. The SUBARU HAS A NICER INTERIOR AND, FUEL ECONOMY is JUST AS GOOD. SUBARU FORRESTER also DOES OFF ROAD and HONDA DOESN'T (FOR ME THE HONDA CRV AWD IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME).
guys the oil dilution has an easy fix. DONT USE THE HONDA RECOMMENDED OIL. 0W20 is way to thin! 5W30 and dilution is zero. sure you lose 1-2% fuel economy tho....
is this true ?
@@stevewalkuski1115 honda has been using 5w30 for eons. 0w20 shift was made to save fuel econ an meet regulations. 5w30 is also in the manual as a recommend 2nd choice. this should fix the issue.
CRV = Crazy Resale Value.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THE 2019-2020 HONDA CRV IS BUILT?
My 09 CRV doesn't ride that well but it has been extremely reliable
Honda please bring ventilated seats to your cars :( besides that I would fill my whole garage all with Honda