@bruddahmanmatt as recent as Q1 2024 it outsold every midsize crossover except the Explorer and Grand Cherokee. Which was also about the end of full supply so tough to tell with later quarters
When I was shopping for a SUV my top contenders were the Murano, Lexus RX, Mazda CX9 and the Edge. So yeah. It did used to get cross shopped with the Edge.
@@slscamg I disagree. It is a value proposition. Depending on how long you plan to own the vehicle for and depending on how you use the vehicle, it may make financial sense to opt for a regular gas engine. If most of your mileage is freeway driving, the hybrid drive train is being used for very little if any of that type of driving. If you are driving very low mileage every year (like my wife who does a few local trips per week with the kids), then the amount of driving and fuel savings is not enough to offset the vehicle purchase price premium. The gas vehicle is also a lower cost to maintain, theoretically, so there is a risk savings there. I am not saying hybrids are not useful - if they are priced right in line with a gas vehicle, then there is likely very little downside. I purchased a 2018 Atlas for a much lower price than a comparable hybrid (all of which are more compromised in passenger/cargo volume), so it was not worth the additional cost to buy a hybrid, even now, even in California. It gets 26-28mpg on the highway, but averages 17-18 around town - with the mileage we drive it, I can live with that.
You could make the argument either way but to me with Toyota quickly ditching the 2GR/1UR/3UR and basically making their entire lineup hybrid that they would have left a lot of customers in the dust who would then could be persuaded to jump into Nissan who isn't making everything a hybrid and in some cases still using the old proven powertrains. Either those customers don't care for Nissan or they have accepted to jump into the new era of Toyota's powertrains..
Calculate your fuel savings over 100K miles and see if that would pay for the extra cost of the hybrid. Personally, I'm not particularly interested in a hybrid because most of our miles are highway miles where hybrids offer little benefit.
I don’t think Nissan has any hybrid engines. Maybe use the Mitsubishi PHEV tech. If the Honda/Nissan alliance goes ahead, they will be able to use Honda tech.
My mom had an 1st gen 07' Murano as her work/errand car and it worked well until the CVT died 190k miles later in 2016. She has since moved on to the Lexus RX, but I'm assure she'd give this an approving glance as long as she saw it from behind.
Thanks Alex for showing the sunglass holder. Always the main thing I look for in a car. You are the only reviewer that even pays attention to that part of the car. Great review as always.
When in doubt, go with a murano. I have owned two in total. Never an issue, comfortable, peppy engine, quiet interior and roomy enough. It does everything just above average.
I was interested until the VC engine. I am not inherently opposed to 4-cylinder turbos, but the VC is kind of legendary for its problems. Are there any naturally-aspirated V6's left in this class? I think you need to go up a size class to Pathfinder, Telluride, Grand Cherokee, etc. to get a V6.
and that 4-cylinder gets disappointing V-6 like MPG. I am still shaking my head. I know its a larger vehicle, but it ain't a Suburban or Tahoe or Expedition. My 2003 Accord V-6 gets 20/29. Thats a 20 year old engine technlogy. I wanted Nissan to keep those awesome zero-gravity seats (best in the business), get rid of the CVT (done) and keep the V-6, with slightly improved efficiency or slightly lower HP/torque. Instead they dropped to a 4 cylinder and didn't even score any real MPG benefits, just shorter shelf-life. Oh Joy.
For 51k Platinum, you might as well buy a fully loaded Pathfinder with a V6, which is more reliable, and you can get 2nd row captain chairs and a 3rd row.
Out of the Jatco CVT frying pan and into the Nissan VCT fire. The 9-speed ZF doesn't have a stellar reputation either, although I think the complaints about it are about rough shifts rather than failures.
@@richsarchet9762 exactly, I am not a fan of VCT and pesky ZF 9 speed. Nissan needs Honda's Hybrid system to help them since now that they have joined together just like Toyota helps with Subaru and Mazda to use Toyota hybrid.
1) touch controls for climate and on steering wheel, I personally hate the idea. 2) For an MSRP of 51,000 might as well get a Telluride with more space
This is a positive move for Nissan, I, like others am glad that they did away with the cvt. (Now they have to remove it from all of their cars etc) now Nissan needs to add both a hybrid with better fuel economy and possibly a plug-in hybrid and a true SR trim. that SR would need to have a better sport tune suspension, more power and a few more standard options.
Why even compare the Murano's turbo 241 HP with the Subaru Outback's non-turbo engine's only 182 horsepower? 🙄🤨🤔 The Outback's turbo engine has 260 HP. Must compare an apple to an apple.
Considering that this is the Platinum model, then most models of the Blazer would have more horsepower. Also, it's interesting that you focus on comparing to the Lexus. Isn't that Infinity's job?
Nissan is making the effort that should have been made like 10-15 years ago. Front looks like abandoned Lexus design from last decade and added Hyundai Tucson…not really attractive. The rear looks good. Nissan reliability is train to be seen. 23 MPG is a bad news
I had the 2006 Murano I put about 120k miles before major issues and kept it til 2023 with 160k miles before giving it away. Overall nice comfy drive I would buy it again. I wish MPG was better though.
The perfect car for real estate agents. Given the news with the Murano, QX60, and the massive Honda/Acura engine recall, please God don't let Nissan ditch the NA V6 in the Pathfinder. I hate turbocharged engines because they're always money pits and NA V6s are a rare breed now.
I have to say, Nissan kinda knocked this out of the park, Im not too sure on the front end but the rear, and interior looks pretty awesome. I am happy to see that they are using a variety of colors instead of just a sea of grey/black that you find in most german competitors. The Crown Signia, might be a better pick for some people due to the hybrid system, which produces about the same power but with significantly better fuel economy, the Murano is still a very good choice tho
If I was in the market for a nice SUV, this would be near the top of my list. The engine and badging are a let down but I would prefer them over paying another $10k now.
For those that don’t like the 4 cylinder tubo 9-speed automatic transmission, try the all new Pathfinder V6 9-speed automatic transmission, it’s really nice. I own a 2021 Toyota RAV4 and also own a 2023 Nissan Pathfinder SL Premium and we love it. ❤
241hp is rough. I wish they offered hp and tow numbers and engine tuning for people willing to fill it with premium gas. 268hp like the Infiniti would probably be noticeable.
I used to be a borderline Nissan fanboy back in the day. Now, if someone gave me one for free, I'd sell it and use the money to buy something else. Nissan corporate management has been a total dumpster fire, and it's a real shame what has become of the company.
Does the front passenger seat have the same adjustments as the drivers seat ? My wife wants to be able to raise the front seat to see over the hood .I currently own a 2022 Murano SL AWD and I love her .
Personally I like Nissan 👍🏾 I'm scared of their CVTs too but when they try they make some good looking well priced vehicles. This one doesn't have that crapco CVT so I might lease this one. 😊😊
Recent years Nissan/Jatco CVTs used in the Murano are incredibly good, smooth, responsive, efficient and much hardier than its predecessors were. Just drive a bunch of competitors and see for yourself. But, ignore the bad advice fluid change schedule Nissan lists and change fluid at least 1/2 the miles sooner and then you'll see long enjoyable life. If you lease, well..its next owner will benefit. Reading so many misinformed old-info comments here hating on the CVT. Just goes to show, the longer a mfgr takes to make things 'right' for the customer, the harder..(almost impossible) to shake obsolete opinions. I've done this comparo and used to be just as skeptical but I educated myself and now love the way this trans works. It's basically without fault. It doesn't even really feel like a CVT. I'm amazed how quick and responsive it is to your chosen input and demand. But I'm planning on changing fluid every 30k miles and drop the pan and do BOTH filters. Most people don't even realize there are 2 not 1 filter.. even dealers🙁 And the one that dirtys first is actually accessible without dropping the pan! Hopefully others considering any Murano from 2016 to 2024 will see my post. I've heard there are some 2024s still new but I haven't confirmed.
@@MichaelSmith-kr9qw But they ditched the V6 which the Pathfinder still has. And this turbocharged 4 cylinder engine probably doesn't get better MPGs than the V6.
@naveenthemachine what I'm saying is, while it's great that they introduced a torque converter automatic, they should have paired it with the existing V6 like they did with the Pathfinder. The VC turbo engine that replaced the V6 has been known to be a very problematic engine.
@naveenthemachine what I'm saying is, while it's great that they introduced a torque converter automatic, they should have paired it with the existing V6 like they did with the Pathfinder. The VC turbo engine that replaced the V6 has been known to be a very problematic engine.
it gives away my age that I found the D-mode "not Depeche Mode" comment hilarious. As for the controls, I don't care for the haptic touch for climate controls. I prefer buttons and knobs.
Nissan is a lesson no one should forget, they are at the stage of too little too late. People have been for years to get rid of that bad transmission - hopefully they will listen now as they are on the verge of bankruptcy.
Hold the phone you said they address all the problems. This Nissan still has a CVT. I've been with Nissan from 87 when my father purchased the Maxima. If they can't get right they need to get out the way. I'm tired of trying to avoid the CVT. They don't last. I just did a build it says CVTCS for the Transmission. Maybe they need to update the website.
How does Nissan achieve variable compression in this engine? Anyone know who can explain it? Also, to me this new Murano looks like a Peugeot 3008, especially in that color
It uses an eccentric link on the crankshaft that links to both the piston via one link and a control arm on the other rather than a traditional connecting rod. The system allows the piston's motion to have different profiles while also acting as a harmonic balancer for the engine.
Not a fan of the spaceship looks. The Hyundai front lights. The lack of headroom with sunroof. The dash that creeps over the screens. No more V6. The tall 1 foot wide center tunnel that separates you from your spouse. ect....
So one thing that is really puzzling about this brand new Murano. It only has the 1.1 hands on Pro Pilot assist. The New 25 Rogue has the new 2.1 hands off Pro Pilot assist. Come on Nissan. Maybe it was just price points but strange, non the less !
The Rogue , RAV 4 and CR-V are in a smaller segment under the Murano. The Murano competes (more or less) with the Infiniti QX -50, Lexus RX , Acura RDX and Volvo XC 60.
In terms of a few desires, but especially in ride quality, quietness and seat comfort, the pre 2025 Muranos annihilate the Rav4 and CRVs. Especially the Toyota, they are loud with road and wind noise. CRV not bad for wind noise and are quieter than they used to be (not the Hybrid surprisingly.. it's actually louder than the Rav) but road noise and disappointing seat comfort are still an issue in the CRV. The Murano, at least pre 2025 are much much more luxurious and not really comparable to the other two if comfort is a priority.
It’s way faster than the rx350 though. To beat the murano in performance you have to get the 450h+ or 500h both of which are significantly more expensive
@@KevLEXodus are you really going to pull your hair out because your 70k car gets crappy mpg?😂 no one in their right mind would run head first to a luxury car dealer for high fuel economy. Besides you can just get a highlander or rav4 hybrid which use the exact same system and in the top trims they’re just as nice
It's not *bad*, but keep in mind the tires (255) which are wide for the segment and the final drive ratio which is quite low (1st gear ends up at 20.5:1), they also added ground clearance which hurts highway economy. All-in-all, the MPGs seem logical given the constraints.
If Nissan doesn't want to go bankrupt in 12 months, making their cars *more* expensive isn't the way, especially when you consider the inevitable *dealership markup* that Nissan stealerships place. Many Nissan dealers are pretty toxic. All the ones in my city were pretty bad. The only good half decent offers about 1000 miles away. Or Colorado. They make good cars. But their dealer network is trash. Even on 400Zs that had been lot rotting for 300+ days, they still had about 10k-15k markup.
I've been an Acura man most of my life but had a 2013 Murano as a company vehicle. In no time I developed a phobia as 80% other Murano drivers were women. Now I drive 2025 Pilot and I agree with you that 2026 Passort is a better option.
@@MyUtubeScottwe have 3 Acuras; a TSX SportWagon, a V6 RDX and a 2.0 turbo RDX. Love them all. Our last Nissan was a 1991 240SX. And you're right; Muranos cater to the female demographic.
Really wish Nissan had used this model to at least offer their e-power hybrid system, if not make it standard on the car. Nissan having no hybrid options, at all, is disappointing.
I don’t understand the comparison to the Lexus RX. Isn’t this a Ford Edge, Chevy Blazer, Honda Passport, Toyota 4Runner, ect competitor? Comparing it to stuff in the luxury segment it is a bargain, but comparing it to stuff in the mainstream its just average.
For how big it is, it is fine. I got mid 20s in all the non hybrid midsize CUVs we tested when my wife and I were shopping around whether 4 or 6 cyl.. I got 30+ in the highlander hybrid but it can feel a bit slow which to me isn't a problem but clearly a tradeoff.. It is interesting to see how Nissan has clearly avoided hybridization as much as the other makes and I thought there were enough Americans who were anti-hybrid (aka 2 powertrains to fix/replace) that their sales would do alright but hilariously America has dramatically shifted towards hybrids quite suddenly in the past couple years..
Look of the HVAC? Beautiful. Execution of the HVAC? Awful. No quality haptic feedback, yet the entire panel will push down on your inputs. At least it was that way on my Ariya. This Murano looks very well executed overall.
I would have liked to have seen the Nissan V-6 paired with the ZF 9-speed, at least as an option. Say what you will about the CVT, but the V-6 was solid.
I've always been a fan of the Murano I bought the 1st gen. model. But this one I'm not liking. I don't like the look, wheels, price, engine choice, nor the lack of power. It doesn't look sporty anymore. It looks like a gasoline powered EV. I do like the transmission change though.
Don't like rear styling, there is no protruding bumper. Minor rear collisions turn into expensive repairs, due to hatch getting hit. Don't know why automakers do this. Insurance rates will be higher due to this.
Those ugly black wheels and blackout packages don't do this vehicle any favors. Is the 9-speed automatic transmission of the ZF German POS Chrysler, Range Rover, and Honda used at one time, and still used in the Chrysler Pacifica? I will take imitation leather interior to real leather any day considering imitation leather doesn't crack.
Murano has always been a good suv for the money. Very comfortable and high quality.
One thing not mentioned is this looks like an improved option for those wanting a new Ford Edge since they're not making those anymore
No one wants a Ford Edge which is why Ford isn’t making them anymore.
@bruddahmanmatt as recent as Q1 2024 it outsold every midsize crossover except the Explorer and Grand Cherokee. Which was also about the end of full supply so tough to tell with later quarters
When I was shopping for a SUV my top contenders were the Murano, Lexus RX, Mazda CX9 and the Edge. So yeah. It did used to get cross shopped with the Edge.
Loving the deep blue color! Almost looks teal!
I really like it based on the review. I hope it is a success for Nissan. They could use some good news. 😢
Always liked the Murano but for a brand new 2025 model it’s a big mistake that it’s not a hybrid.
I agree in today’s world you need a hybrid. Most people will see under 20 with typical suburb driving and school pickup line idling.
@@slscamg I disagree. It is a value proposition. Depending on how long you plan to own the vehicle for and depending on how you use the vehicle, it may make financial sense to opt for a regular gas engine. If most of your mileage is freeway driving, the hybrid drive train is being used for very little if any of that type of driving. If you are driving very low mileage every year (like my wife who does a few local trips per week with the kids), then the amount of driving and fuel savings is not enough to offset the vehicle purchase price premium. The gas vehicle is also a lower cost to maintain, theoretically, so there is a risk savings there.
I am not saying hybrids are not useful - if they are priced right in line with a gas vehicle, then there is likely very little downside. I purchased a 2018 Atlas for a much lower price than a comparable hybrid (all of which are more compromised in passenger/cargo volume), so it was not worth the additional cost to buy a hybrid, even now, even in California. It gets 26-28mpg on the highway, but averages 17-18 around town - with the mileage we drive it, I can live with that.
You could make the argument either way but to me with Toyota quickly ditching the 2GR/1UR/3UR and basically making their entire lineup hybrid that they would have left a lot of customers in the dust who would then could be persuaded to jump into Nissan who isn't making everything a hybrid and in some cases still using the old proven powertrains. Either those customers don't care for Nissan or they have accepted to jump into the new era of Toyota's powertrains..
Calculate your fuel savings over 100K miles and see if that would pay for the extra cost of the hybrid. Personally, I'm not particularly interested in a hybrid because most of our miles are highway miles where hybrids offer little benefit.
I don’t think Nissan has any hybrid engines. Maybe use the Mitsubishi PHEV tech. If the Honda/Nissan alliance goes ahead, they will be able to use Honda tech.
My mom had an 1st gen 07' Murano as her work/errand car and it worked well until the CVT died 190k miles later in 2016.
She has since moved on to the Lexus RX, but I'm assure she'd give this an approving glance as long as she saw it from behind.
I didnt know Nissans were that reliable.
Thanks Alex for showing the sunglass holder. Always the main thing I look for in a car. You are the only reviewer that even pays attention to that part of the car. Great review as always.
Happy to help!
When in doubt, go with a murano. I have owned two in total. Never an issue, comfortable, peppy engine, quiet interior and roomy enough. It does everything just above average.
Wow a Depeche Mode reference, great job! +100 pts
Teehee....
I was interested until the VC engine. I am not inherently opposed to 4-cylinder turbos, but the VC is kind of legendary for its problems. Are there any naturally-aspirated V6's left in this class? I think you need to go up a size class to Pathfinder, Telluride, Grand Cherokee, etc. to get a V6.
and that 4-cylinder gets disappointing V-6 like MPG. I am still shaking my head. I know its a larger vehicle, but it ain't a Suburban or Tahoe or Expedition. My 2003 Accord V-6 gets 20/29. Thats a 20 year old engine technlogy. I wanted Nissan to keep those awesome zero-gravity seats (best in the business), get rid of the CVT (done) and keep the V-6, with slightly improved efficiency or slightly lower HP/torque. Instead they dropped to a 4 cylinder and didn't even score any real MPG benefits, just shorter shelf-life. Oh Joy.
There’s only two crossovers left in this class with N/A V6s, those being the Chevy Blazer and the Honda Passport.
For 51k Platinum, you might as well buy a fully loaded Pathfinder with a V6, which is more reliable, and you can get 2nd row captain chairs and a 3rd row.
And higher towing capacity, but not everybody needs an SUV with three rows
Yep. Only lose 1 mpg combined. 22/pathfinder 23/murano. Basically the murano sux.
That VCT engine will probably cause worse problems than the CVT did...
😂👍 Nailed it !
Out of the Jatco CVT frying pan and into the Nissan VCT fire. The 9-speed ZF doesn't have a stellar reputation either, although I think the complaints about it are about rough shifts rather than failures.
Exactly!
@@richsarchet9762 exactly, I am not a fan of VCT and pesky ZF 9 speed. Nissan needs Honda's Hybrid system to help them since now that they have joined together just like Toyota helps with Subaru and Mazda to use Toyota hybrid.
Disintegrating main engine bearings and launching L links through the block as standard equipment.
1) touch controls for climate and on steering wheel, I personally hate the idea.
2) For an MSRP of 51,000 might as well get a Telluride with more space
This is a positive move for Nissan, I, like others am glad that they did away with the cvt. (Now they have to remove it from all of their cars etc) now Nissan needs to add both a hybrid with better fuel economy and possibly a plug-in hybrid and a true SR trim. that SR would need to have a better sport tune suspension, more power and a few more standard options.
"I love capacitive touch buttons" -Nobody Also, what's with the wheel gap up front being an inch or two higher?
Why even compare the Murano's turbo 241 HP with the Subaru Outback's non-turbo engine's only 182 horsepower? 🙄🤨🤔 The Outback's turbo engine has 260 HP. Must compare an apple to an apple.
Every car now has what has become the "generic panels". Good classic gauges and an integrated nav and real buttons are what's needed.
ZF9HP is a huge step up from the CVT, but I wonder why manufacturers choose the 9-speed over the more reliable 8-speed from the same manufacturer, ZF?
The ZF 8 speed is a RWD transmission. The 9 speed is a fwd transmission
Alex, I find the pricing very...........ambitious and I can't really see the RX losing a lot of sleep. 😉
It’s a good alternative at a much lower price. Rx is 54-69
Considering that this is the Platinum model, then most models of the Blazer would have more horsepower. Also, it's interesting that you focus on comparing to the Lexus. Isn't that Infinity's job?
Considering the price of the thing it isn't that unusual to start cross shopping this and a Lexus.
Blazer is smallish even more than this.
@occckid123 i believe you're thinking of the Equinox. Blazer is similar in size
DONT EVER BUY A CHEVY SUV EVER !!!!
because QX50/55 is a joke. No one should buy QX50/55 over this unless you can get absolutely massive discount.
Great review ! Liked the feature comparisons with similar models. Odd that there's no MPG difference between FWD and AWD .
And it's actually less than the v6 with cvt
A CX-70 has 100hp more and better fuel economy
...and is much better looking and overall better performance
Nissan is making the effort that should have been made like 10-15 years ago.
Front looks like abandoned Lexus design from last decade and added Hyundai Tucson…not really attractive.
The rear looks good.
Nissan reliability is train to be seen.
23 MPG is a bad news
Biggest gripes are the capacitive steering wheel buttons, and climate controls are either capacitive or baked into the infotainment
I had the 2006 Murano I put about 120k miles before major issues and kept it til 2023 with 160k miles before giving it away. Overall nice comfy drive I would buy it again. I wish MPG was better though.
All new Armada, all new Murano, all new Kicks, last year of Altima, end of Titan and a merger with Honda. Busy year for Nissan.
and FoxConn wants to buy Renault's share in Nissan
The perfect car for real estate agents.
Given the news with the Murano, QX60, and the massive Honda/Acura engine recall, please God don't let Nissan ditch the NA V6 in the Pathfinder. I hate turbocharged engines because they're always money pits and NA V6s are a rare breed now.
I have to say, Nissan kinda knocked this out of the park, Im not too sure on the front end but the rear, and interior looks pretty awesome. I am happy to see that they are using a variety of colors instead of just a sea of grey/black that you find in most german competitors. The Crown Signia, might be a better pick for some people due to the hybrid system, which produces about the same power but with significantly better fuel economy, the Murano is still a very good choice tho
This is a massive win for the brand with the zf 9 speed. Get that in the rouge and Altima and Nissan is on the map again!!🎉
Never considered Nissan as a competitor to a Lexus.
If I was in the market for a nice SUV, this would be near the top of my list.
The engine and badging are a let down but I would prefer them over paying another $10k now.
For those that don’t like the 4 cylinder tubo 9-speed automatic transmission, try the all new Pathfinder V6 9-speed automatic transmission, it’s really nice. I own a 2021 Toyota RAV4 and also own a 2023 Nissan Pathfinder SL Premium and we love it. ❤
That nine speed may be better over the long haul but nothing is as smooth as the last gen's CVT.
Right up until it fails on you.
241hp is rough. I wish they offered hp and tow numbers and engine tuning for people willing to fill it with premium gas. 268hp like the Infiniti would probably be noticeable.
And it only has a 1500 pound towing capacity
Subaru Outback has 260 HP and 277 Torque.
blue interiors were popular in the 80s. actually glad for an alternative to grays and browns
Should have been a non-turbo Hybrid with a regular transmission. Hertz is going to get one hell of a deal on these.
Hertz gets deals on all fleet additions.
Alex great review like always. How is it compare VW cross sport
Once the hybrids come this will make even more sense
It would be great if d-mode actually played some Depeche Mode. I’d then consider buying the new murano ‘cause I’d just can’t get enough.
I'd be Behind The Wheel as well!!
No CrossCabriolet? No dice.
I used to be a borderline Nissan fanboy back in the day. Now, if someone gave me one for free, I'd sell it and use the money to buy something else. Nissan corporate management has been a total dumpster fire, and it's a real shame what has become of the company.
Nice jacket what brand is it ?
It’s a shame that there is no optional hybrid powertrain. Otherwise, it seems excellent. We really like our 2019 Murano.
Does the front passenger seat have the same adjustments as the drivers seat ? My wife wants to be able to raise the front seat to see over the hood .I currently own a 2022 Murano SL AWD and I love her .
Personally I like Nissan 👍🏾 I'm scared of their CVTs too but when they try they make some good looking well priced vehicles. This one doesn't have that crapco CVT so I might lease this one. 😊😊
Recent years Nissan/Jatco CVTs used in the Murano are incredibly good, smooth, responsive, efficient and much hardier than its predecessors were. Just drive a bunch of competitors and see for yourself. But, ignore the bad advice fluid change schedule Nissan lists and change fluid at least 1/2 the miles sooner and then you'll see long enjoyable life. If you lease, well..its next owner will benefit.
Reading so many misinformed old-info comments here hating on the CVT. Just goes to show, the longer a mfgr takes to make things 'right' for the customer, the harder..(almost impossible) to shake obsolete opinions.
I've done this comparo and used to be just as skeptical but I educated myself and now love the way this trans works. It's basically without fault. It doesn't even really feel like a CVT. I'm amazed how quick and responsive it is to your chosen input and demand. But I'm planning on changing fluid every 30k miles and drop the pan and do BOTH filters. Most people don't even realize there are 2 not 1 filter.. even dealers🙁
And the one that dirtys first is actually accessible without dropping the pan!
Hopefully others considering any Murano from 2016 to 2024 will see my post. I've heard there are some 2024s still new but I haven't confirmed.
If you’re gonna spend this type of money get the Lexus RX you’ll never be disappointed the number one car brand in the world
The RX is a far worse vehicle in every way and I don’t need to explain how
Right off the bat they did it correctly they got rid of what was plaguing most Nissan's the CVT
@@MichaelSmith-kr9qw But they ditched the V6 which the Pathfinder still has. And this turbocharged 4 cylinder engine probably doesn't get better MPGs than the V6.
@@damilolaakannihas the v6 and CVT combo had problems?
I know yes it does in the old pathfinder but cars like the Altima didn’t seem to
@naveenthemachine what I'm saying is, while it's great that they introduced a torque converter automatic, they should have paired it with the existing V6 like they did with the Pathfinder. The VC turbo engine that replaced the V6 has been known to be a very problematic engine.
@naveenthemachine what I'm saying is, while it's great that they introduced a torque converter automatic, they should have paired it with the existing V6 like they did with the Pathfinder. The VC turbo engine that replaced the V6 has been known to be a very problematic engine.
it gives away my age that I found the D-mode "not Depeche Mode" comment hilarious. As for the controls, I don't care for the haptic touch for climate controls. I prefer buttons and knobs.
Nissan is a lesson no one should forget, they are at the stage of too little too late. People have been for years to get rid of that bad transmission - hopefully they will listen now as they are on the verge of bankruptcy.
Hold the phone you said they address all the problems. This Nissan still has a CVT. I've been with Nissan from 87 when my father purchased the Maxima. If they can't get right they need to get out the way. I'm tired of trying to avoid the CVT. They don't last. I just did a build it says CVTCS for the Transmission. Maybe they need to update the website.
After all this time, this... this is what they have to offer? Did they even try?
The fact that this didn't debut as a new Infiniti FX and we are comparing it to a Lexus is proof that Infiniti is dead.
How does Nissan achieve variable compression in this engine? Anyone know who can explain it?
Also, to me this new Murano looks like a Peugeot 3008, especially in that color
It uses an eccentric link on the crankshaft that links to both the piston via one link and a control arm on the other rather than a traditional connecting rod. The system allows the piston's motion to have different profiles while also acting as a harmonic balancer for the engine.
I honestly see Hyundai-inspiration in the new Nissan products. Also: WOW the sunroof mechanism is SUPER visible.
Not a fan of the spaceship looks. The Hyundai front lights. The lack of headroom with sunroof. The dash that creeps over the screens. No more V6. The tall 1 foot wide center tunnel that separates you from your spouse. ect....
What is up with the wide haunch and narrow shoulders? It's a form guaranteed to be less functional.
Price?
Thank you Nissan for addressing the CVT by eliminating it for this vehicle. Great job. Now about that engine...
Can you get 4-way lumbar on the driver’s seat &/or passenger seat on the RX?
It’s optional but it’s also very expensive and you still can’t get massage seats
CX70 is much nicer and better looking ... would take it over Mariano and other generics in that class
So one thing that is really puzzling about this brand new Murano. It only has the 1.1 hands on Pro Pilot assist. The New 25 Rogue has the new 2.1 hands off Pro Pilot assist. Come on Nissan. Maybe it was just price points but strange, non the less !
Should we be comparing to Rav4 and CRV? That's Rogue territory.
It seems like it competes with the Rogue lol
The Rogue , RAV 4 and CR-V are in a smaller segment under the Murano.
The Murano competes (more or less) with the Infiniti QX -50, Lexus RX , Acura RDX and Volvo XC 60.
I would still consider the Murano a midsized SUV
In terms of a few desires, but especially in ride quality, quietness and seat comfort, the pre 2025 Muranos annihilate the Rav4 and CRVs. Especially the Toyota, they are loud with road and wind noise. CRV not bad for wind noise and are quieter than they used to be (not the Hybrid surprisingly.. it's actually louder than the Rav) but road noise and disappointing seat comfort are still an issue in the CRV. The Murano, at least pre 2025 are much much more luxurious and not really comparable to the other two if comfort is a priority.
@ is this an AI comment?
Look good. But no hybrid = no thanks! Cmon Nissan, at least get on the hybrid bandwagon!
6.8 seconds is pretty slow from a 2L turbo, and gas mileage isn’t good either, RAV4 hybrid is just as fast as this but gets double MPG rating.
And isn't it like $10K cheaper too?
It’s way faster than the rx350 though.
To beat the murano in performance you have to get the 450h+ or 500h both of which are significantly more expensive
@naveenthemachine Something that would be more than fine for most since it comes with significantly at that price.
@naveenthemachine And the massive fuel savings you'd get with those powertrains would offset that price greatly.
@@KevLEXodus are you really going to pull your hair out because your 70k car gets crappy mpg?😂 no one in their right mind would run head first to a luxury car dealer for high fuel economy. Besides you can just get a highlander or rav4 hybrid which use the exact same system and in the top trims they’re just as nice
My 2003 Murano has no piano black, 2025 has piano black everywhere . NISSAN, PEOPLE DONT LIKE PIANO BLACK.
heard theres alot of problems with the vc turbo engine
Why isn't the variable compression engine more economical? Isn't that the whole point of it?
It's not *bad*, but keep in mind the tires (255) which are wide for the segment and the final drive ratio which is quite low (1st gear ends up at 20.5:1), they also added ground clearance which hurts highway economy. All-in-all, the MPGs seem logical given the constraints.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Seems like a poor return for all the mechanical complexity involved.
IMHO, a hybrid would have been better
This looks like a larger ford escape. ESP when you see the chrome line on the tip of the side profile
If Nissan doesn't want to go bankrupt in 12 months, making their cars *more* expensive isn't the way, especially when you consider the inevitable *dealership markup* that Nissan stealerships place. Many Nissan dealers are pretty toxic. All the ones in my city were pretty bad. The only good half decent offers about 1000 miles away. Or Colorado.
They make good cars. But their dealer network is trash. Even on 400Zs that had been lot rotting for 300+ days, they still had about 10k-15k markup.
Toyota crown signia XLE is a serious competitor. And that is hybrid with 38 miles per gallon fuel economy
No the crown is nowhere near as luxurious or as premium or as interesting as the Murano.
Alex where’s that dark blue iPhone case from?! 😅
honestly, I'd go for a Honda Passport - especially the new one.
I've been an Acura man most of my life but had a 2013 Murano as a company vehicle. In no time I developed a phobia as 80% other Murano drivers were women. Now I drive 2025 Pilot and I agree with you that 2026 Passort is a better option.
@@MyUtubeScottwe have 3 Acuras; a TSX SportWagon, a V6 RDX and a 2.0 turbo RDX. Love them all. Our last Nissan was a 1991 240SX. And you're right; Muranos cater to the female demographic.
Really wish Nissan had used this model to at least offer their e-power hybrid system, if not make it standard on the car. Nissan having no hybrid options, at all, is disappointing.
Help me out here. Shouldn't this be compared to the Highlander? The Toyota version of the RX. Infiniti exist to go up against Lexus not Nissan.
Highlander is 3-row only, it's the competitor to Nissan's Pathfinder.
Should u talk about new one,,u must not have driven previous year as they are a good ride corner well, I have a 2020 a love it,,
I don’t understand the comparison to the Lexus RX. Isn’t this a Ford Edge, Chevy Blazer, Honda Passport, Toyota 4Runner, ect competitor? Comparing it to stuff in the luxury segment it is a bargain, but comparing it to stuff in the mainstream its just average.
Well, Ford killed the Edge, Honda has made the Passport more off-road capable, the 4Runner is a body-on-frame SUV, not a CUV...
23 mpg = Garbage.
*2018 Nissan Murano got 24 mpg. 😂
They should have kept the V6.
@@damilolaakanniI agree. their VQ v6 is one of their best engines
At least you’ll call it out, when Jeep does it they get killed
If this had the V6 nobody would care
For how big it is, it is fine. I got mid 20s in all the non hybrid midsize CUVs we tested when my wife and I were shopping around whether 4 or 6 cyl.. I got 30+ in the highlander hybrid but it can feel a bit slow which to me isn't a problem but clearly a tradeoff..
It is interesting to see how Nissan has clearly avoided hybridization as much as the other makes and I thought there were enough Americans who were anti-hybrid (aka 2 powertrains to fix/replace) that their sales would do alright but hilariously America has dramatically shifted towards hybrids quite suddenly in the past couple years..
Remind me of Hyundai Tucson
Look of the HVAC? Beautiful. Execution of the HVAC? Awful. No quality haptic feedback, yet the entire panel will push down on your inputs. At least it was that way on my Ariya. This Murano looks very well executed overall.
reliability?
With the 2.0L VCT engine ? Close to none on the long run. Good luck if you take the plunge.
If I’m going to have an SUV that size with a four-banger, it had better be part of a hybrid powertrain. 😡
I would have liked to have seen the Nissan V-6 paired with the ZF 9-speed, at least as an option. Say what you will about the CVT, but the V-6 was solid.
Looks great, good transmission, but that engine is a no-go for me. I'll stick with our RDX and its detuned Type R engine.
Looks like a Stormtrooper lol
A Jar Jar Trooper.
looks like a gen 1 Chevy volt in the front
What would Depeche Mode be like?
I don't know why but I see some Honda HRV in the side view
Drop the price of the platinum to 40k and we good 😊
I've always been a fan of the Murano I bought the 1st gen. model. But this one I'm not liking. I don't like the look, wheels, price, engine choice, nor the lack of power. It doesn't look sporty anymore. It looks like a gasoline powered EV. I do like the transmission change though.
Honda Murano.
Don't like rear styling, there is no protruding bumper. Minor rear collisions turn into expensive repairs, due to hatch getting hit. Don't know why automakers do this. Insurance rates will be higher due to this.
2L vc motor = trouble
It truly would be a shame if Nissan had to close its doors.
I get this or better mpg on my 2017 SL with 80K miles.
The current RX 350 has 295 hp, not 275
No that’s the old v6 you’re talking about. The 2022 and older non hybrid models have 295hp.
The new one w the turbo 4 has 275
Undersized VC turbo in a heavy SUV… so it will never be in high efficiency mode and always gas guzzle mode. It’s like Nissan is allergic to success.
Those ugly black wheels and blackout packages don't do this vehicle any favors. Is the 9-speed automatic transmission of the ZF German POS Chrysler, Range Rover, and Honda used at one time, and still used in the Chrysler Pacifica? I will take imitation leather interior to real leather any day considering imitation leather doesn't crack.
It looks like a Toyota up front and a Hyundai Nexo in the back
Leave it to Nissan to simultaneously get rid of the CVT but also make it abhorrent to look at.
Nobody asked you to look at it then....
It could be worse
So they got rid of the only good thing about the last Murano, the V6. Too bad.
I guess this really competes with a Chevy Blazer .