@@user-redmond yeah the dude in this video tries to downplay grus smarts, but clearly he is a genius in his own right, just not the level of dr nefario, and he also built his own flying bike thing we see in minions, and we know he built it because he doesnt team of with dr nefario until after Minions rise of gru.
Syndrome: Let's see how you fare against my giant killer android. Gru: Oh really. (freezes Omnidroid, then shrinks it down, before burning it to a crisp) Syndrome (blank stare, as Bob, Helen, Dash, Violet, and Frozone all look on in confusion): What.
Plus, the Minions are Gru's weapons too. They may look adorable and stupid, but he uses them to help with some of his missions, and they are immortal. The movies themselves made that part clear.
it's even worse for the omni droid when you recall that the minions are ADEPT with power tools. They'd not just swarm over it but also start taking it apart....
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There are also other advantages Gru has over Syndrome that you didn’t mention. 1: Gru has WAY more combat experience than Syndrome. While the Omnidroid has faced multiple supers and killed them with ease, Syndrome himself rarely ever fought anyone in a head-to-head fight. He’s seen far less action than Gru who in contrast has been on multiple missions for the AVL, personal missions against Vector, and been in more fights than Syndrome overall. Syndrome may be more book smart, but in combat tactics, Gru has him beat. 2: Composure. While both Gru and Syndrome have had their share of embarrassing moments, Syndrome’s own arrogance and overconfidence has left him wide open for counterattacks and make crucial mistakes in a fight; a problem he never learned from. In contrast, Gru often learns from his mistakes and adapts to hasty situations much better than Syndrome, who panics whenever things go wrong. Syndrome is used to things going exactly his way and is shown to freak out and fumble his work whenever things go wrong. Gru is far less likely to screw around and leave himself open compared to Syndrome. 3: Versatility. While Syndrome’s gadgets and machines are absolutely impressive, Syndrome is ironically a one-trick pony with his kit compared to Gru. All he really has are his Zero-Point gauntlets, the Omnidroid, rocket boots, and a single miniature explosive. It also doesn’t help that many of his weapons have been known to malfunction or turn against him in crucial moments (again due to his hubris). In contrast, Gru has multiple long range weapons (freeze ray, laser gun, lipstick taser), a shrinking ray, a personal jet and car he can call at any time, a fart gun, etc. Gru has so many more tools for offense and defense that he can fall back on to either create an opening or counter some of Syndrome’s options.
Don't forget the minions. While the Omnidroid is NEARLY indestructible, the minions literally are impervious to damage. All Gru's got to do is tell the minions to swarm Syndrome and he's basically done for.
Gru works with his minions. And they're pure chaos machines. So Gru is used to working with unexpected chaos. If Gru has his minions causing their usual chaos, Syndrome doesn't stand a chance. It's not even a fair fight.
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Gru my man will beat syndrome in a good sunday and on other days will humiliate him. Yup, using their tech, okay, syndrome has his ball robot. Gru has his minions, and should one of those got in one of that giant ball's insides, that's byebye robot. The unwitting destructive nature of the minions is no joke. And he has that shrink gun. One on one......yeah Gru is going to put Syndrome in his place...yup behind bars.
Honestly I think everyone is sleeping on Syndrome. We only see a small amount of his implied many technologies. He has the production capacity to be selling weapons to other countries, his organization is large enough to make secret bases on remote islands. These said bases are fortified with ground launched missiles and the island in the movie has the capability to launch ICBM's. Gru has a small army and an underground bunker, Syndrom has an entire organization working with other governments.
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1:05 about the shark thing, it gets even more impressive when you realize it was a casual backhand. GRU didn’t even need to use a full force, haymaker punch. He flat out bitch slapped it to death.
I think something else to note about Syndrome is that, despite knowing about the various cliches, he can't help but get wrapped up in them due to his complexes. He wants to surpass his old idol, he wants to prove he's better. But he's got a lack of experience and a lack of acknowledgement of how dangerous what he's doing is and what can go wrong, something he shows as a youth (where Bomb Voyage nearly gets him killed and how his actions most likely helped start the mass expulsion of super heroes from society) and later on (where he gets caught monologuing, doesn't realize his adaptive robot might fight back against his commands if he faces it, and falls victim to how capes can get supers who wear them killed). It makes it all the more obvious that Gru would win because, from what I can assume, Gru HAS moved past those things while Syndrome is entrapped by them.
@ahha623 he did learn from that though, at the end of the second movie, he hits El Macho with the lipstick tazer and *then* announces it. I'm drawing a blank on if he continued doing that in the other movies though.
@@johnherb-h8k i do find it hard to see gru win personally as usually it's angry animals that can fend him off and his weapons lack range or like the shink ray have a charge up. while syndrome has quickly beaten the incredible who have both strength and speed. if the fight last long it favors gru but syndrome has the immediate advantage.
I just did some quick estimations, and found that Gru’s shrink ray can output at least 1.8*10^43 Joules. That is 20% the energy of a typical supernova and the equivalent to the amount of energy the sun emits in 1.5 MILLION YEARS!!!
I did research and a debate with my friend a few years back on who would win between another character and Felonius Gru so I unfortunately have a lot of experience on this subject. For facts about Gru, he has major advantages a lot of which come from the differences in his universe and ours. Gru has: -Being 12-14 feet tall -Can dodge missiles which (according to my math) we’re going at about 300 km/h -Can scale the Pyramid of Giza in under 20 seconds -Can jump at least 10 feet in the air -Agility and reaction time on par with the best people in the world -Strong enough to one hit a great white. (It was either paralyzed or KOed) -Top-tier infiltration and stealth -Acess to gadgets that are likely at Syndrome’s level. List includes: 1. Freeze ray 2. Fart gun 3. Rocket launchers 4. Shrink ray? (Technically not his) 5. Lipstick-taser? (Also not his, but he could have access to it) 6. The minions, Dr.Nefario, Dru, Lucy, and the Girls (only if we allow the Omnidroid and Syndrome’s goons as well) 7. The Grumobile 8. X-ray goggles 9. Heat ray 10. The suit from Despicable Me 3. Idk the name but it has a lot of gadgets built-in In summary, Gru easily has stronger allies than Syndrome, meaning for Syndrome to have a chance it has to be a 1v1, with them only being allowed what they can have on them. Even in this case through, I give Gru around a 90+% chance of winning.
6:08 Not _Just_ any old missiles. He dodged _Heat-Seekers._ Those missiles are absurdly fast, and they _HAVE_ to be fast, as they have to catch their target. 6:56 Forgot to mention the Flaw of Syndrome's Zero-point energy manipulators... When the Zero-Point Energy Emitter exceeds a certain axis, it stops working altogether. This was how Mr Incredible was thrown around, and how the 18-wheeler was carelessly tossed aside in the city fight. Syndrome actually remarked on fixing it, which he never got around to doing due to the chaos of the movie. Gru would realize that weakness and exploit it.
@@ryvel9051 Its a pretty common theory that grew got the original minions but then cloned a bunch more because he has way more minions than there are in the minions movie
Unless Megamind can reinforce Metro Man, I think Gru wins here. His freeze ray is just as useful as the dehydration gun, but with a greater range and his minions surpass the brain bots.
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 despite the fact that most of his inventions failed in some way: The watch only lasted so long before Roxan found out the truth, and the fact it looks nothing like an ordinary watch. His fusion gun to turn Titan into a hero almost failed at first and only brought destruction to the city. Even his giant robot only lasted so long before it was destroyed and Minion presumably rebuilt it. The only weapon/gadget he has that works regularly is the dehydration gun, which as I already said, isn’t any better than the freeze ray.
@@carterjames8829 Bro al of his inventions went up against AN ACTUAL GOD... If it wasn't for him he deadass would be winning all the time. Like stop with this downplay lol
Plus there is a good chance that Gru could just shrink himself get inside and turn the robots on his side with amount of knowledge he possesses about technology that would be very well possible
With how Mr. Incredible did get inside the Omni-Droid, Syndrome may very well have made the inside more dangerous (or compact) if anything somehow did get inside.
A point that I made to my friend as well is that since Gru can scale the entire Pyramid of Giza in about 8 seconds, his speed is estimated to be that of going to the moon and back in about a minute and a half. Granted, he was scaling a high slope when on the pyramid, so one can assume that this number is even faster (making him faster than even Wally West’s Flash)
What are you talking about, he is at least going at most 24m/s. That is such an easy calculation if you know about Pythagoras theorem and how to calculate speed from distance and time.
What we see in the two movies: Gru was a hands-on villain (and spy). He didn't send his henchmen to do his biding, he lead his henchmen on the field while carrying out his evil (and good) deeds. Meanwhile Syndrome essentially sat behind a computer screen pushing buttons and giving orders to his lackeys. He pulled strings, set traps, and lead his enemies to their own demise (or at least attempted to). Syndrome was the villian behind the curtain.
Boi how u gonna shrink the small explosive when it’s small it takes the same energy into the smaller space creating an explosion bigger than the neutral because of the kenetic energy sooooo don’t shrink the tiny bomb
I think people are underestimating the power of the Omnidroid. It learns from the people he defeats, and assuming we are using the omnidroid at the end of the movie, all Syndrome has to do is Zero Point Gru, and the Omnidroid would destroy him. What the hell are a swarm of minions going to do against the Omnidroid? Entity cram it? Gru wouldn’t have time to shrink it because the. Zero Point would instantly freeze him.
I like your thinking, my thoughts is that if Syndrome zero points fast enough and catches gru off guard, he can throw him into an omnidroids spinning blades which will cause a bloody mess. Also Shrink ray carries gru. If he didnt have that Gru would be toast. But overall I see Gru winning most of the circumstances because of his bigger arsenal, but yes Syndrome still has a pretty good chance of winning, its not gonna be a slaughter of a battle like the video said. Have a good day!
Another point while Syndrome defeated many heroes it was always one by one and in an ambush setting with his Omnidrones. Meanwhile Gru fought against villain geniuses who both uses technology and superhuman physicals regularly.
Honestly before Gru's backstory was expanded on, I'd theorized that his moments of hypercompetence, the fact that he seemed to understand how to operate what were basically assault rifles, and having a vaguely Eastern European sounding accent, pointed to a sorta Niko Bellic situation.
That is true, however, Gru's reaction speeds are arguably faster than hypersonic entirely, moving into sub-relativistic as his reactions scale above Vector, who is able to react extremely in avance to incoming obstacles while traveling 5696.024 km/s, which is significantly faster than Dash's highest speed. Gru is also capable of moving appx. 1900 mph, matching/slightly exceeding the movement of average ballistic missiles. Dash is fast, but he's not "Ballistic Missile" fast. Syndrome's quick on the draw, but he's not "I can react to something moving mach 4.6" fast.
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@@Algorithm.860 Not fast enough, and he can't choose when he gets bigger. Also, I don't think his shrink ray works like Ant Man's, so he's not as strong when small.
Yes, it really is! I'd also like to see Megamind vs. Gru (not vs. Syndrome, because if Megamind can hold his own in multiple battles with Metro-Man, he can easily take down Syndrome and the Omnidroid).
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I'd say this is a case of "toonforce wins". Despicabe Me takes place in a more cartoonish universe, where people can survive explosions like Wile E. Coyote, and fatherly love turns you into an unstoppable beast.
Fanboying aside, Mr. Incredible could've made it way easier on himself if he told Buddy that superhero work was life-threateningly dangerous, and he can't, in good conscience, let a defenseless boy follow him to his superhero duties. Instead, he chose to just say "Go home Buddy, I work alone." which is definitely how you make someone develop a grudge against you. Meanwhile, Gru has hundreds of immortal minions that he still cares about, never putting them directly in danger without planning out their moves. Yes, they rely on him for guidance, but he never told them to take a cannonball for him or something. He treats them as equals rather than expendable servants. As for their battle, Syndrome relies too much on his devices, the loss of which is how he's originally defeated. Gru has literally punched a shark and dodged missiles.
You forgot that Gru also has his minions just like Sintrem got his droids and minions will always out run Sintrem and his robots in numbers. Not to forget the only way to destroy his robots is to destroy it from inside and Gru has Cookiebots for that purpus.
Part of this really comes down to Protag of his story with lots of time for abilities and new tech to be shown off/improved on vs antagonist of his story with like 5 total mins of showing off and improving tech and abilities. If Syndrome had even a fraction of Gru's combat screentime then he'd have more tech and feats to help make this less of a stomp in Gru's favor
What I feel like EVERYONE here misses when giving Gru the shrink ray is they think that makes the omni droid "weaker". Now I haven't seen the movie but depending how the shrink ray works, if it compresses the matter, then the droid would be denser and probably even harder to destroy when shrunk, and if that is not the case, just shrinking the size doesn't make it softer or easier to destroy depending. Try stomping on a bowling ball and see how long it takes you to "crush it under your foot." As far as "can't even hurt you" there are so many things the size of your hand or smaller that have the capability to seriously maim or disfigure people. But Gru from what this video shows is basically a super human so probably a moot point.
Intelligence goes to gru he made a whole dang rocket when he was a kid that actually flew and he barely had supplies he is a super genius a billion times smarter then a person
Just a reminder that the shrink ray does not remove mass or weight from its targets. Just makes them denser. So with this knowledge, it should come as to no surprise that Gru is capable of lifting the MOON, easily might I add.
I feel like it *does* have to be stated, since it wasn't really - that one of Syndrome's major advantages in the Omnidroid is the fact that it learns so quickly. Adaptation is a powerful ability, and while I still think Gru definitely wins, I think we're vastly underselling the importance of the Omnidroid program. Just as an example, I personally think the Omnidroid might actually end up being a whole lot more terrifying if it's small. Due to it's adaption, it would recognize the fact that the stakes have changed and adjust the way that it approaches the situation. It would be faster and much harder to hit, and doesn't really lose out on any of it's toughness just by being smaller. Imagine a little death ball rolling around, getting into vents, sabotaging stuff, and generally just being a miniature nightmare until it unshrinks, if it isn't destroyed by then.
I think the most important part is that Syndrome is just a villain, but Gru is incredibly lovable. I think that's why Imagination chose to continue with him, because people actually want to see his character development.
i think syndrome beats most tv and movie characters. the only way to beat his omni droid is ripping its claws off and impaling it with those. and the zero point energy is so good as well.
Another point in Gru's favor is that the omni-droids are specialized robots. The first one Mr. Incredible kills was meant to take on someone with heat powers, not Mr. Incredible. The only omni-droid that could pose a problem is the one meant for Mr. Incredible and that is solved with the shrink ray.
Gru built a macaroni rocketship when he was younger than kid Syndrome. Enough said
And then made a real version of the macaroni prototype...
Meh -Gru's mom
@@user-redmond yeah the dude in this video tries to downplay grus smarts, but clearly he is a genius in his own right, just not the level of dr nefario, and he also built his own flying bike thing we see in minions, and we know he built it because he doesnt team of with dr nefario until after Minions rise of gru.
@@billycool6237 Holy... you're right
@@billycool6237 Dr. Nerfario.. aka: THE GOAT
kid syndrome made rocket boots
syndrome- "lets see how you like my new omni droid"
gru- *shrinks it down and stomps it like a bug*
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@@treek10kYou repeated yourself here bruv
Syndrome: Let's see how you fare against my giant killer android.
Gru: Oh really. (freezes Omnidroid, then shrinks it down, before burning it to a crisp)
Syndrome (blank stare, as Bob, Helen, Dash, Violet, and Frozone all look on in confusion): What.
@@matthewjones8398lmao😂😂😂
@@timeakertesz1125 Huh.
Plus, the Minions are Gru's weapons too. They may look adorable and stupid, but he uses them to help with some of his missions, and they are immortal. The movies themselves made that part clear.
Minions vs the Omnidroid would be a hilarious fight.
Ur so right
it's even worse for the omni droid when you recall that the minions are ADEPT with power tools. They'd not just swarm over it but also start taking it apart....
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@@PureGarbageWithCheese I want to see them fight
Syndrome is the type to misunderstand what a superhero is. He wants to be super, but doesn't understand real heroes.
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@@treek10kgood insight, Jesus was indeed one of the real heroes. Eve thought that doesn’t really apply here
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There are also other advantages Gru has over Syndrome that you didn’t mention.
1: Gru has WAY more combat experience than Syndrome. While the Omnidroid has faced multiple supers and killed them with ease, Syndrome himself rarely ever fought anyone in a head-to-head fight. He’s seen far less action than Gru who in contrast has been on multiple missions for the AVL, personal missions against Vector, and been in more fights than Syndrome overall. Syndrome may be more book smart, but in combat tactics, Gru has him beat.
2: Composure. While both Gru and Syndrome have had their share of embarrassing moments, Syndrome’s own arrogance and overconfidence has left him wide open for counterattacks and make crucial mistakes in a fight; a problem he never learned from. In contrast, Gru often learns from his mistakes and adapts to hasty situations much better than Syndrome, who panics whenever things go wrong. Syndrome is used to things going exactly his way and is shown to freak out and fumble his work whenever things go wrong. Gru is far less likely to screw around and leave himself open compared to Syndrome.
3: Versatility. While Syndrome’s gadgets and machines are absolutely impressive, Syndrome is ironically a one-trick pony with his kit compared to Gru. All he really has are his Zero-Point gauntlets, the Omnidroid, rocket boots, and a single miniature explosive. It also doesn’t help that many of his weapons have been known to malfunction or turn against him in crucial moments (again due to his hubris). In contrast, Gru has multiple long range weapons (freeze ray, laser gun, lipstick taser), a shrinking ray, a personal jet and car he can call at any time, a fart gun, etc. Gru has so many more tools for offense and defense that he can fall back on to either create an opening or counter some of Syndrome’s options.
Don't forget the minions. While the Omnidroid is NEARLY indestructible, the minions literally are impervious to damage. All Gru's got to do is tell the minions to swarm Syndrome and he's basically done for.
Gru works with his minions. And they're pure chaos machines. So Gru is used to working with unexpected chaos. If Gru has his minions causing their usual chaos, Syndrome doesn't stand a chance. It's not even a fair fight.
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Gru my man will beat syndrome in a good sunday and on other days will humiliate him.
Yup, using their tech, okay, syndrome has his ball robot. Gru has his minions, and should one of those got in one of that giant ball's insides, that's byebye robot. The unwitting destructive nature of the minions is no joke. And he has that shrink gun. One on one......yeah Gru is going to put Syndrome in his place...yup behind bars.
Honestly I think everyone is sleeping on Syndrome. We only see a small amount of his implied many technologies. He has the production capacity to be selling weapons to other countries, his organization is large enough to make secret bases on remote islands. These said bases are fortified with ground launched missiles and the island in the movie has the capability to launch ICBM's. Gru has a small army and an underground bunker, Syndrom has an entire organization working with other governments.
I feel like Gru is on the level of Batman's prep time.
Stronger than Batman SO MUCH STRONGER!
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@@treek10kGru did not get nailed to a cross
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Batman with prep time is the most overrated shit ever
0:19 so when he gru up
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Has Syndrome ever punched a shark before? 🦈
Has Syndrome ever tanked 100 missiles to the face before?
@jimmythearsonist451 more like every weapon ever at once
No
Like yeah, he punched knocked out a shark but the sharks impact didn't move him an inch, which means Gru is even more powerful than that
Has syndrome ever slowed down time to evade missiles before?
1:05 about the shark thing, it gets even more impressive when you realize it was a casual backhand.
GRU didn’t even need to use a full force, haymaker punch. He flat out bitch slapped it to death.
So a guy that has a version of Toon Force vs a guy that has no Toon Force? My money is on Toon Force guy.
This is what it comes down to, Despicable Me takes itself way less seriously and that comes with crazier feats
I think something else to note about Syndrome is that, despite knowing about the various cliches, he can't help but get wrapped up in them due to his complexes. He wants to surpass his old idol, he wants to prove he's better. But he's got a lack of experience and a lack of acknowledgement of how dangerous what he's doing is and what can go wrong, something he shows as a youth (where Bomb Voyage nearly gets him killed and how his actions most likely helped start the mass expulsion of super heroes from society) and later on (where he gets caught monologuing, doesn't realize his adaptive robot might fight back against his commands if he faces it, and falls victim to how capes can get supers who wear them killed).
It makes it all the more obvious that Gru would win because, from what I can assume, Gru HAS moved past those things while Syndrome is entrapped by them.
Doesn't Gru yell out his attacks which caused him to lose and get kidnapped.
@@ahha623 'I assume'
@ahha623 he did learn from that though, at the end of the second movie, he hits El Macho with the lipstick tazer and *then* announces it. I'm drawing a blank on if he continued doing that in the other movies though.
@@johnherb-h8k i do find it hard to see gru win personally as usually it's angry animals that can fend him off and his weapons lack range or like the shink ray have a charge up. while syndrome has quickly beaten the incredible who have both strength and speed. if the fight last long it favors gru but syndrome has the immediate advantage.
I just did some quick estimations, and found that Gru’s shrink ray can output at least 1.8*10^43 Joules. That is 20% the energy of a typical supernova and the equivalent to the amount of energy the sun emits in 1.5 MILLION YEARS!!!
Just glad the energy is tuned to shrink Ray and not anihalaser.
what
THAT MUCH?! Dear god, what does China want?
@@CringusMcDingusthat shrink ray was made by north(?) koreans, because in soundtrack the heist music is called "korean lab heist"
Oh lord imagine a FULL FORCE PUNCH FROM THAT MAN
you’d be sent to the mini moon
and didn’t he tank like 50 giant missiles (some looked to be NUCLEAR)
I did research and a debate with my friend a few years back on who would win between another character and Felonius Gru so I unfortunately have a lot of experience on this subject.
For facts about Gru, he has major advantages a lot of which come from the differences in his universe and ours. Gru has:
-Being 12-14 feet tall
-Can dodge missiles which (according to my math) we’re going at about 300 km/h
-Can scale the Pyramid of Giza in under 20 seconds
-Can jump at least 10 feet in the air
-Agility and reaction time on par with the best people in the world
-Strong enough to one hit a great white. (It was either paralyzed or KOed)
-Top-tier infiltration and stealth
-Acess to gadgets that are likely at Syndrome’s level. List includes:
1. Freeze ray
2. Fart gun
3. Rocket launchers
4. Shrink ray? (Technically not his)
5. Lipstick-taser? (Also not his, but he could have access to it)
6. The minions, Dr.Nefario, Dru, Lucy, and the Girls (only if we allow the Omnidroid and Syndrome’s goons as well)
7. The Grumobile
8. X-ray goggles
9. Heat ray
10. The suit from Despicable Me 3. Idk the name but it has a lot of gadgets built-in
In summary, Gru easily has stronger allies than Syndrome, meaning for Syndrome to have a chance it has to be a 1v1, with them only being allowed what they can have on them. Even in this case through, I give Gru around a 90+% chance of winning.
You think he could take down the plutonian?
6:08 Not _Just_ any old missiles.
He dodged _Heat-Seekers._
Those missiles are absurdly fast, and they _HAVE_ to be fast, as they have to catch their target.
6:56 Forgot to mention the Flaw of Syndrome's Zero-point energy manipulators...
When the Zero-Point Energy Emitter exceeds a certain axis, it stops working altogether. This was how Mr Incredible was thrown around, and how the 18-wheeler was carelessly tossed aside in the city fight.
Syndrome actually remarked on fixing it, which he never got around to doing due to the chaos of the movie.
Gru would realize that weakness and exploit it.
Gru created some (annoying) yet indestructible creatures for minions. A swarm of them will overrun any Omni-droid.
Gru didn't create the minions they are like millions of years old, they have been around since the dawn of life. Was in the first minions movie.
@@ryvel9051 Its a pretty common theory that grew got the original minions but then cloned a bunch more because he has way more minions than there are in the minions movie
@@gamingwizard1609it makes sense
@@gamingwizard1609 or perhaps they just multiply the more evil their master is?
@@warllockmasterasd9142 which means they would either stop multiplying or start vanishing after the 2nd movie
Aww, I really wanted Gru vs Megamind...but this clearly works too!
Maybe he can do that next cuz I want that one too
Unless Megamind can reinforce Metro Man, I think Gru wins here. His freeze ray is just as useful as the dehydration gun, but with a greater range and his minions surpass the brain bots.
@@carterjames8829
Mega Mind is definitely Smarter and arguably more capable. His inventions are also just better in every way
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 despite the fact that most of his inventions failed in some way: The watch only lasted so long before Roxan found out the truth, and the fact it looks nothing like an ordinary watch. His fusion gun to turn Titan into a hero almost failed at first and only brought destruction to the city. Even his giant robot only lasted so long before it was destroyed and Minion presumably rebuilt it. The only weapon/gadget he has that works regularly is the dehydration gun, which as I already said, isn’t any better than the freeze ray.
@@carterjames8829
Bro al of his inventions went up against AN ACTUAL GOD... If it wasn't for him he deadass would be winning all the time.
Like stop with this downplay lol
We got a spy vs. A superhero wannabe.
Plus there is a good chance that Gru could just shrink himself get inside and turn the robots on his side with amount of knowledge he possesses about technology that would be very well possible
With how Mr. Incredible did get inside the Omni-Droid, Syndrome may very well have made the inside more dangerous (or compact) if anything somehow did get inside.
I absolutely knew how to watch this video to see if Gru came up on top and he did. Thanks for proving it all right.
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@@Crazing LOL
@@universatechus oml blud I didn't realize
gru is canonically 4 minions tall and that makes him FOURTEEN FEET TALL! he can just punt syndrome
this video is basically the guy ranting about Gru being a fricking superhuman that can dodge fricking rockets dude lmaooo
ehhhhh i mean he does have a point
A point that I made to my friend as well is that since Gru can scale the entire Pyramid of Giza in about 8 seconds, his speed is estimated to be that of going to the moon and back in about a minute and a half. Granted, he was scaling a high slope when on the pyramid, so one can assume that this number is even faster (making him faster than even Wally West’s Flash)
What are you talking about, he is at least going at most 24m/s. That is such an easy calculation if you know about Pythagoras theorem and how to calculate speed from distance and time.
Additionally the moon is a light second away from us, are you saying that gru can achieve relativistic speeds of around over 1% of light?
No one beats kids movie physics
What we see in the two movies:
Gru was a hands-on villain (and spy). He didn't send his henchmen to do his biding, he lead his henchmen on the field while carrying out his evil (and good) deeds.
Meanwhile Syndrome essentially sat behind a computer screen pushing buttons and giving orders to his lackeys. He pulled strings, set traps, and lead his enemies to their own demise (or at least attempted to). Syndrome was the villian behind the curtain.
"So, when he GRU up he decided to become a super villain himself"
I can't unhear that 💀
One of Gru's greatest intentions is the shrink ray. He can shrink Syndrome and all his inventions.
EXACTLY! Gru literally keeps a LOAD of technology Gadgets on him.
Uhh.. iirc he didn't invent the shrink ray though. It's stolen tech. But yeah, he's got it in his arsenal.
@@ken2663 well yeah that is true.
@@ken2663 correct me if I'm wrong. Its gone after the first movie
Boi how u gonna shrink the small explosive when it’s small it takes the same energy into the smaller space creating an explosion bigger than the neutral because of the kenetic energy sooooo don’t shrink the tiny bomb
i love how forward he is about this
Gru literally made a rocketship was a kid, he can shrink everything, including the moon itself.
I think people are underestimating the power of the Omnidroid. It learns from the people he defeats, and assuming we are using the omnidroid at the end of the movie, all Syndrome has to do is Zero Point Gru, and the Omnidroid would destroy him. What the hell are a swarm of minions going to do against the Omnidroid? Entity cram it? Gru wouldn’t have time to shrink it because the. Zero Point would instantly freeze him.
Minions can use weapons too
I like your thinking, my thoughts is that if Syndrome zero points fast enough and catches gru off guard, he can throw him into an omnidroids spinning blades which will cause a bloody mess. Also Shrink ray carries gru. If he didnt have that Gru would be toast. But overall I see Gru winning most of the circumstances because of his bigger arsenal, but yes Syndrome still has a pretty good chance of winning, its not gonna be a slaughter of a battle like the video said. Have a good day!
Another point while Syndrome defeated many heroes it was always one by one and in an ambush setting with his Omnidrones. Meanwhile Gru fought against villain geniuses who both uses technology and superhuman physicals regularly.
Honestly before Gru's backstory was expanded on, I'd theorized that his moments of hypercompetence, the fact that he seemed to understand how to operate what were basically assault rifles, and having a vaguely Eastern European sounding accent, pointed to a sorta Niko Bellic situation.
You need to remember, syndrome made all of them in the 1950’s
4:10 but when gru was a kid he built a rocket
And a real one based on macaroni prototype too
And a cheese ray (freeze ray prototype that shoots melted cheese )
And the freeze ray
Gru’s real weapon is plot armour
So is every other protagonist.
More like cartoon physics
3:29 look at that walk
Syndrome's reaction speed is fast enough to catch Dash who has super speed.
That is true, however, Gru's reaction speeds are arguably faster than hypersonic entirely, moving into sub-relativistic as his reactions scale above Vector, who is able to react extremely in avance to incoming obstacles while traveling 5696.024 km/s, which is significantly faster than Dash's highest speed. Gru is also capable of moving appx. 1900 mph, matching/slightly exceeding the movement of average ballistic missiles. Dash is fast, but he's not "Ballistic Missile" fast. Syndrome's quick on the draw, but he's not "I can react to something moving mach 4.6" fast.
He got Dash while Dash had his guard down.
@@paradoxglitch1108 Dash was still running.
5:30 The omnidroids be gettin some
“ASSEMBLE THE MINIONS!!!”
Vs
“Even when you have nothing to lose you’re weak!”
Suggestion of the Day
Mortal Kombat Guest Character Tournament
Freedy Krueger
Homelander
Jason Voorhees
John Rambo
Joker
Kratos
Leatherface
Peacemaker
Robocop
Spawn
Predator
Terminator
Xenomorph
Put them in a 14 team bracket
What will the bracket look like
Who wins this tournament
Considering how op Kratos is sometimes, he might 1v13 the list
Gru looks like The Penguin 🐧
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
@@treek10kAmen.
Grus does have one thing Syndrome doesn’t. The Minions.
I love the thinking of using Gru’s cartoon indestructibility and strength as super human
I will never forgive Despicable Me 4 for turning Gru into a pushover
Never thought of having them fight. But now I see a cool rivalry.
A more interesting hypothetical would be Gru vs Megamind, or I suppose, Tighten.
Syndrom couldn’t even fight his own robot he needed the remote.
Can we just give the animators props for having Gru acurately manoeuver in microgravity?
5:09 wait did he build hidden drones or turrets for the zero point tax? The road is that he can only shoot from his hands.
Gru vs Megamind would've been a better lineup.
I don't think Gru has a counter for zero point energy.
He could shrink himself
@@Algorithm.860 Not fast enough, and he can't choose when he gets bigger. Also, I don't think his shrink ray works like Ant Man's, so he's not as strong when small.
@@JoelPerry1 wait... syndrome is ded
Now, this is a creative and interesting matchup. Well done, Danco.
Yes, it really is! I'd also like to see Megamind vs. Gru (not vs. Syndrome, because if Megamind can hold his own in multiple battles with Metro-Man, he can easily take down Syndrome and the Omnidroid).
Danny phantom vs the incredibles
Depends on whether it's the earlier seasons Danny, or the last season Danny. Adult Danny Phantom would mop the floor with them.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
@@treek10k there is a very special place in hell for those who try to impose their religious beliefs on others at the most inappropriate times and places. You anonymity does not apply to God.
@@jdlech This is just random, and likely a meme. I doubt they're even religious. I used to post stuff like that in random forums to read angry reactions.
"It's not toxic, just noxious, like Grandpa Ted."
Man Gru didn't even need the army of indestructible tic tacs.
Biggest Weapon of Gru is his Army of indestructable minions
Batman vs Syndrome (The Incredibles)
Johan Hex (DC Comics) vs Two Face (DC Comics)
Mr Increíble vs Killer Croc
Naruto Uzumaki vs Po (Kung Fu Panda)
dont forget... THE MEGA MINIONS
And that's not taking in account the absolute size of the lad known as Gru.
I'd say this is a case of "toonforce wins". Despicabe Me takes place in a more cartoonish universe, where people can survive explosions like Wile E. Coyote, and fatherly love turns you into an unstoppable beast.
Gru just genetically altered himself to give himself superpowers
Syndrome vs Mega mind would be interesting.
Fanboying aside, Mr. Incredible could've made it way easier on himself if he told Buddy that superhero work was life-threateningly dangerous, and he can't, in good conscience, let a defenseless boy follow him to his superhero duties. Instead, he chose to just say "Go home Buddy, I work alone." which is definitely how you make someone develop a grudge against you.
Meanwhile, Gru has hundreds of immortal minions that he still cares about, never putting them directly in danger without planning out their moves. Yes, they rely on him for guidance, but he never told them to take a cannonball for him or something. He treats them as equals rather than expendable servants.
As for their battle, Syndrome relies too much on his devices, the loss of which is how he's originally defeated. Gru has literally punched a shark and dodged missiles.
2:20 “KNOCKED OVER!!”
I love how they made the heat ray so extra! 🤣
This is the question I didn’t know I wanted answered
You forgot that Gru also has his minions just like Sintrem got his droids and minions will always out run Sintrem and his robots in numbers. Not to forget the only way to destroy his robots is to destroy it from inside and Gru has Cookiebots for that purpus.
There's also the fact that the Minions are literally indestructible
@@Br0ck3n yep
Part of this really comes down to Protag of his story with lots of time for abilities and new tech to be shown off/improved on vs antagonist of his story with like 5 total mins of showing off and improving tech and abilities.
If Syndrome had even a fraction of Gru's combat screentime then he'd have more tech and feats to help make this less of a stomp in Gru's favor
ok now i rlly wanna see death battle do an ep with these 2
Homelander vs Skullcrawlers
Homelander
Skullcrawlers
Homecrawlers
Skulllander
This would depend on whether or not Homelander is killed in one bite because as soon as he's inside the Skullcrawler's mouth, it's over for the beast
Slapstick, the destroyer of durability power scaling.
He also forgot to mention that gru is 14 feet and can travel almost as fast as the speed of sound
What I feel like EVERYONE here misses when giving Gru the shrink ray is they think that makes the omni droid "weaker". Now I haven't seen the movie but depending how the shrink ray works, if it compresses the matter, then the droid would be denser and probably even harder to destroy when shrunk, and if that is not the case, just shrinking the size doesn't make it softer or easier to destroy depending. Try stomping on a bowling ball and see how long it takes you to "crush it under your foot."
As far as "can't even hurt you" there are so many things the size of your hand or smaller that have the capability to seriously maim or disfigure people.
But Gru from what this video shows is basically a super human so probably a moot point.
+Gru has an army of invincible minions
Bro really has gmod physics guns for fingers 💀
Intelligence goes to gru he made a whole dang rocket when he was a kid that actually flew and he barely had supplies he is a super genius a billion times smarter then a person
Shang Chi with the ten rings (MCU) vs Worthy Captain America (MCU)
Gru doesn't wear a cape. That's enough to win
So a person who is literally dead vs a person which just cant die.
Another factor is Allies. While Syndrome has employees, the Minions not only outnumber them but are also Grus friends.
This video is going to have me look at the Dispicable Me franchise; I didn't know he got down like that
Gru vs. Megamind would be alot more interesting.
0:21 Bro really said when Gru GRU up💀
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Note, the average minion is 3.5 feet tall. Gru is about 4 minions tall putting him at FOURTEEN FEET
never realized how shiny grus eyes are
Erm the ungodly amount of indestructible minions that may or may not be armed with rocket launchers ez win
Syndrome* you can’t stop me * minions come* I’m cooked💀
2 characters by
Gru Illumination and universal
Syndrome Disney and Pixar
Syndrome has superpowers gru has an army of immortal beings
Nightwing vs Taskmaster.
Nightwing
Ah yes. Gru has the power of toon force.
Just a reminder that the shrink ray does not remove mass or weight from its targets. Just makes them denser. So with this knowledge, it should come as to no surprise that Gru is capable of lifting the MOON, easily might I add.
I feel like it *does* have to be stated, since it wasn't really - that one of Syndrome's major advantages in the Omnidroid is the fact that it learns so quickly. Adaptation is a powerful ability, and while I still think Gru definitely wins, I think we're vastly underselling the importance of the Omnidroid program. Just as an example, I personally think the Omnidroid might actually end up being a whole lot more terrifying if it's small. Due to it's adaption, it would recognize the fact that the stakes have changed and adjust the way that it approaches the situation. It would be faster and much harder to hit, and doesn't really lose out on any of it's toughness just by being smaller. Imagine a little death ball rolling around, getting into vents, sabotaging stuff, and generally just being a miniature nightmare until it unshrinks, if it isn't destroyed by then.
To say he’s dodging missiles is an understatement. He’s making them go in slow motion
Cranky redhead vs tall bald man
If we count the omni droid for Syndrome, we need to count the minions for Gru.
I think the most important part is that Syndrome is just a villain, but Gru is incredibly lovable. I think that's why Imagination chose to continue with him, because people actually want to see his character development.
Also the minons give Gru a numbers advantage
i think syndrome beats most tv and movie characters. the only way to beat his omni droid is ripping its claws off and impaling it with those. and the zero point energy is so good as well.
Another point in Gru's favor is that the omni-droids are specialized robots. The first one Mr. Incredible kills was meant to take on someone with heat powers, not Mr. Incredible. The only omni-droid that could pose a problem is the one meant for Mr. Incredible and that is solved with the shrink ray.
Gru has been on God Mode ever since Vector took the girls