This is sensible. Someone is always going to be disappointed when multiple offers are incoming. Better that it's not yourself. The first company will understand, and the next time it may be their offer that is accepted from under the noses of another.
I just got three interviews next week and it’s my first IT position after all these low income jobs. 1 Proud of my self to finally moving into a real career that all these retail and warehouse jobs 2 this is great advice because you don’t know what the company is looking for What I have also heard is “feel it out in the interview”
I almost had this problem, but the one at a different company fell through. A position in my company opened that will allow me to keep my pay and benefits, but with better hours and flexibility.
I got 2 job offers, I accepted the first one, currently going to work while waiting the other one next month🙂 I will figure it out leaving my current company once I get to start with the other one who offered me a competitive salary twice this current one.
I just showed a card too many to a potential employer and I wish I had seen this video beforehand. I got 3 job offers today and I wish I was prepared for this situation before telling one of them I couldn’t answer right away >:0
I have an offer I accepted and they were very inflexible with the start date so I had to give 1 week vs 2 week notice to my current employer. The next day i got an offer from a better opportunity and accepted, however negotiations are ongoing and nothing signed yet. At this rate I may have to start the new job and quit. The new job is a contract to hire and the offer is permanent. I really need help crafting an email or guiding the conversation with the company I accepted the offer from as I don’t want to burn any bridges
I'm in this situation right now. I've already accepted one offer but another company offered me a role this week. It's already been a few days and haven't said anything other than needing to review contract 😅
I might be in the first situation this week as a retired educator who wants me for the two positions. Might be better to call but the reply u got back might be a good indication of you not working for that company
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I was about to run into this situation, but the surprising thing was that the contract job that came first paid a lot more than the second permanent position. So then ended up keeping the contract job. Otherwise I would've had to quit it before starting... which is nasty, but definitely worth it if it would've improved the situation!
@@CareerTherapy plot twist: the perm job upped their offer massively to exceed the pay of the contract (but has bonus potential). Burning the bridge for 80k looks worth it though
Thanks, I'm going with the perm job in this instance! It was a bit against the norm I must admit, but the pay difference is so incredibly large that I can afford to burn a bridge to the other employer. Or rather to the recruitment agency, the employer understood. There are exceptions to most rules :)
I've been at my current job for about a year. It's relatively comfortable and "safe" but the salary is just not enough to be able to adequately save for my future. I was recently offered a job for a significantly higher salary (45k to 70k) and I accepted it but I have not given my two weeks yet. On paper the new job is perfect. But something I have been concerned about is the fact that I suffer from severe anxiety and struggle with change and interacting with people. I would rather not do this but I am afraid that if I put my two weeks notice in, and I take this other job that I can't psychologically handle, then I'm leaving myself with nothing. So I decided to ask for a week off from my current job (vacation time) to secretly give the new job a test drive and to make my decision after the end of that week. I feel shitty doing this, I don't want to abruptly leave my current position, but I also want to know that I have secured a job for myself at the end of the day that I can handle. Am I wrong? Any advice for this type of situation? Thank you
Sorry to hear about your anxieties around this process. I know how hard it can be. On the plus side, you know your skills are marketable and you have options in the career marketplace. That is awesome! And is something we can come back to for reassurance. Congrats on the offer. Your question is a tough one, and while I can’t tell you exactly what to do, I can make a few observations to help clarify the thinking here. While it might feel nice to have the security blanket of the current job, you’re also seeing the guilt that comes with trying to play both options and not giving your 2 weeks notice. This is akin to someone trying to find a new partner to date before breaking up with their current partner. It complicates things. The difference here is that you don’t owe your company anything. If you juggle the roles and they never find out, no harm no foul. But, the issue is that it is stressing you out and muddying the waters. The new opportunity sounds like a real step up, and the typical rule of thumb is to end thing properly before starting so that you can use your past job as a future reference. My thought would be to put in the 2 weeks notice, start the new role, and then find a coach or therapist to help you manage your anxiety in the new role. That said, it is your decision at the end of the day and I wish you the best of luck with what you decide. Circle back and let me know how it all turns out.
I like the suggestion to ask for flexibility with the start date. The only thing is the company could agree to it and still go ahead to send you the offer agreement and all other documents (background check, etc) as well as onboarding process. What then do you do in that scenario?
yep, if you are in an at-will employment state, you can quit at any time for any reason. In that case, you can accept the offer with the pushed out start date and if a better offer comes through, then you can rescind your first offer and take the 2nd before the job starts.
This is so apt,but am in the situation now,am a nurse got a staffing agency offer,,though I signed the offer in other to kick off the contract but later got a direct hire interview,
at the same organization? In that case I would talk to the team that is interviewing you for the new role about the staffing contract, cause there might be some legal/contractual things to keep in mind.
I’m an honest person, so I’m going to remain honest in situations like this just to see my future boss’s reaction. If it’s a negative reaction then my mind is made up to walk away. If it happens once it will happen again
There is a difference between honesty and oversharing. Very few companies are being honest with their employees. They share information on a need to know basis. Sometimes they know they are laying off their team months before they tell anyone. There are levels to honesty. What is shared with a friend is different than a family member, is different than a stranger. We must be discerning with what we share, how much we share, and with whom we share. I’ve seen too many people think honesty and oversharing are the same thing, leading to outcomes they could have avoided just by saying less. Share what you feel comfortable sharing. Not here to tell you what to do. Just, illuminating what I’ve seen over the years. Companies are not honest. You have every right to be honest. But, people also need to protect themselves.
@CareerTherapy Not all companies are dishonest though. I live my life of "Don't expect from others what you don't do yourself". So I will be loyal for as long as I am shown loyalty. But if I am shown disloyalty, I no longer need to be loyal anymore. I give people the benefit of the doubt, until they give me a reason to think otherwise.
@@dhenderson1810 agreed. I give people the benefit of the doubt, but not “companies”. I’ve seen too many honest managers put into dishonest situations due to corporate, legal, political, etc circumstances. Trust is good. And employees need to protect themselves
Is this a good way to do if i have an offer accepted from company 1 and 2 company is offering me more CRC, then can we re-negotiate with first company as its very good but less CTC
How much more is it? If you have already signed the first offer, re-negotiation that quickly is not ideal. You've agreed to the terms and now are coming back with changes when they think things are fine. You might be able to do it, but you also more than likely will put a bad taste in their mouth. If the other offer is not a ton more, and you like the first company more, stick with company 1. If company 2 is better AND has better pay, then you can leave company one and go to company 2. But, of course, what you do is up to you. Let us know what you choose.
I would like to clarify if the start date is extended in the first company, would it burn bridges with the first company if she said that she will not anymore continue with the offer? This is in case she got the job offer secured with the second company.
It would depend on the person you’re dealing with and how you communicate it. If they extend the start date, and you get another offer, you wouldn’t tell them that. Instead, you would say, “There have been some changes in my personal situation and I am no longer able to move forward with this role. Apologies for the inconvenience.” It might burn the bridge, it might not, but you’re allowed to do that. You don’t ever HAVE to take a role that you don’t want, or don’t have to take. If the other company has a better offer and you get it in writing, it is best to go with the best offer, not accept the first, worse offer, out of guilt or worry of bridge burning.
You should only apply to one job at a company. Applying to multiple makes it seem like you don’t know what you want on their side. In this case apply to the one you really want, don’t apply to the other, and try ti network to get an internal connection at the company if you can. They have all the info on the inside, so trying to juggle the offers against each other is going to be difficult
What would you do if you’re waiting on a counter offer after their original offer but it feels like they are either taking their sweet time or dangling you?
It is important to keep all your irons in the fire until you have signed on the dotted line. If you're waiting to hear back form the 1st company, because they are taking their sweet time, while the 2nd company has already delivered a written contract and is waiting for your signature, what you want to do is nudge the 1st company a bit and extend the 2nd company signature as much as possible. You can email the first company and ask when they expect to have an updated contract to review and ask if there is anything they need from you in order to keep things moving forward. You can ask the 2nd company some clarifying questions about vacation, start dates, etc. to extend your "review" period before signing. You can sign the 2nd offer since it is already in hand, but move your start date out a week or two which will give you time to finalize the 1st contract and see if it ends up being better than the second. The main thing you want to make sure is that you don't lose any of the offers. Worst case scenario, accept the 2nd offer while you're waiting to hear back from the first, and then if the other contract comes through and it is too good to be true, you can always rescind your offer acceptance from the 2nd company and go work for the 1st. That way you're secure either way. Hope that made sense. Lmk if you have additional questions, or if I can clarify any of the above.
Hi, I received a written job offer from Company A like almost 2 weeks ago. I am currently waiting for Company B’s (My goal company) decision but it’s taking some time. A few days ago, I emailed the HR from Company B and told them that I received a job offer from another institution and because of this I wanted to know if they already made a final decision whether or not they would give me a job offer… the HR called me that night and said that I passed all the interviews, she’s giving me a verbal confirmation that I got the post BUT there’s not specific date when they can send me a written job offer since the hiring manager is on leave due to bereavement… is this normal? What is the best thing to do?? Hope you can help me 🙏🏻
Very normal. What you will probably have to do in this scenario is accept the first job while waiting to hear back from the second. Then if the second job gives you a better offer, you'll have to find a way to bow out of the first job and take the second. Try to only share the minimum amount you have to with each company to get the offers you want and negotiate with both to see what the best offers you can get are. If you need help navigating this, you can set up time to chat with me at careertherapy.com Also rewatch the video and read the comments as there is great info in this threat :) Hope this helped
Last note. Don't tell the 2nd company that you accepted the first offer. Just let them send their contract when it is ready. Most states are at-will employment and you can quit anytime (double check this in your state). If the second company's offer is better than the first, then you turn the first down and go with the second. But, try not to give reasons, just say it was something that you had a life change and can no longer proceed with the role at this time. Companies do this to employees all the time when budgets change or they eliminate roles. It is business, not personal. As companies always say.
I have 3 job offers I’m 9 years experienced plumbers. The first offer is from one of the biggest plumbing companies in the country however not that big in my region but is growing however they require a clean mvr I have 2 points on my license for speeding. I just did a drug test like 4 days ago but there taking a long time this is my first choice I hope they don’t rescind offer. The second company is like 18 biggest plumbing company in the nation they want to start immediately I want more time though. The 3rd seems like they’re about hire they’re seeing if they can insure me. They have a few locations in California. What do I do. The company I want is taking along time through the background process I think they have biggest potential for fat checks. They all like the experience though.
Fingers crossed they don't rescind - let us know how it goes! See if you can get an extra day or two to respond to the 2nd company by following up with some questions. Have they already sent a written offer? Remember that for all of these, if it is not in writing, it is not yet real. So, try to get all of them in writing. If you have to make a decision before you get everything in writing from the other companies, make the best decision you can with the real offers you have in hand. If you get an offer for another company AFTER accepting the first offers, you can always go back and rescind your acceptance. If companies can pull a written offer after giving it to you, you can rescind after accepting. But, check the contract to ensure there are no penalties for doing so and make sure you're in a location with at-will employment.
I am currently in this situation, and it's frustrating. I don't know what to do. One company is a large corporation but offers a salary that is $18,000 less than the smaller company, which is still significant. However, the smaller company is in the process of organizing an onsite interview, and I have no idea when it will take place. All I've been told is that I am their top candidate. I don't know what to do
keep pursuing both. treat each interview process like the other one does not exist. Try to get offers from both and see what they offer. When you have both offers in hand ready to be signed, you can make your decision. Don't worry until you have an offer in hand. If one company extends and offer and the other is dragging things out, accept the first offer. If the 2nd one comes back with a better offer and you want to take it, then accept it and go back to the first one and decline. Negotiate both to the best of your ability, but don't worry until everything is in writing. Only deal with real offers in writing, not imaginary offers that don't exist yet. Sounds like you just need to focus on crushing the interviews now. It might all sort itself out in the end. But, know you have control over what you accept and reject. Just don't reject the written offer for an imaginary alternative.
@@CareerTherapy I have an offer with the bigger company ready and I am at the last stage of interview for the smaller company that pays more they (small company) are expected to give me an interview next week.
@@asvpjoeyevdo9798 Which team do you feel you fit in with better based on the interviews? When does the bigger company need an answer by? If they need an answer before you get the other offer, you can accept, then rescind your offer later if the smaller company gives you a better offer. But, don't turn down the first one if you don't have the second offer in hand.
i'm so confused , im in the same dilemma and need your opinion. . I got job offer last week for job A and took the position. This week i got an offer for job B which pays more, about $7k more a year. Job A is a hybrid schedule that works 2 days in the the office while Job B is hybrid schedule but have to work 4 days in the office. Job A has better medical insurance benefits than job B. I was working for job B previously for 4 years so i have seniority there if i take that while Job A is a brand new company. With all those factors said, which one would you take, Job A or B ????
Job A: Pays $7k less (approx 3.5k after taxes), has 2 days in office, better medical, does not have seniority. Job B: Pays $7k more (approx 3.5k after taxes), has 4 days in office, worse medical, has seniority. While I cannot make this decision for you, I think laying it out is helpful. The key is to figure out your priorities and long term goals. What is most important? PAY, POSITION, or PEOPLE, if you had to rank these three. If it is PAY first, then you take the one that pays more. If it is position, then you take the more senior role, if it is people, then you go to the company with better culture/vibe. The one thing I want to highlight is that the healthcare benefits might add up to be more than the $7k increase in salary (esp after tax), so keep that in mind when analyzing pay. And at the end of the day check with your gut. Which one feels most right to you? Which one gives you a better vision of the future and which one do you click with the people more? Let me know what you choose. Likely both options are great, with only minor differences/nuances between them. - Coach Marty
@@CareerTherapy Honestly, i been weighing all the different options. Even creating a spreadsheet and powerpoint, but cant seem to make up my mind. I understand you can't make an opinion but if this was in your shoes, which one would you take honestly? Just wanted to get a lot of peoples opinion who has a great deal of expertise such as yourself.
@@bj10jgo Hey Gina - I am going to resist telling you what to do, because honestly, I don't know the right answer any more than you do. Especially since i don't have the contracts in front of me and am unsure of your past working relationship with company B. At the end of the day, truthfully, either job will probably be fine. When they are as similar as you've laid out here, a pros/cons list is less helpful because you're literally comparing apples to apples. You could probably toss a coin and whichever it lands on is fine. If neither company has any massive red flags, both pay about the same, and the work is pretty much equal, I say go for the one that is most comfortable. I am uncertain which one would give you the best future opportunities, but from what you've said they are likely fairly equal in that respect too. If the job you've already started is good so far and you're happy there, stick with it. Just make sure you don't burn bridges at company B, in case 6 months, or 2 years from now you want to reach back out to them and switch back. I know you want a clear answer, but believe me, you'll be much happier making this call yourself and I believe in you to know what is right for you in this moment at this time in your life. Sounds like a win/win either way to me. Let me know what you end up going with :)
Hi, I am a fresher at beginning of my career. Have got an offer from a company for X amount, and am hoping to get an offer from some other company hopefully equal or greater than this company. How do I negotiate with the first company now, if they can increase my package, knowing, they have offered a higher package to the people who interviewed and got offer for same role with me(means the company pays more). How do I approach, through mail or call. I am so confused.or should I not negotiate. Please help, I am just a fresher.
Hey @itsparth7634 you can negotiate via email or on the phone. The goal is to think of it as a budgeting conversation. Asking if they had additional budget to get up to $XX number. They either can or can't and then you decide to accept or reject. Just try to ask for something reasonable within 5-10k if you're under six figs, or 10-20 if you're over six figs. Or what is reasonable for what they pay other people. Negotiating is always expected. Not always given. But if you're just asking a question about budget they shouldn't take offense.
if they were insulted by something as little as asking for more time, then that means they are narcissist, and you don't want to work for them anyway. or even if you weren't working directly for them, then you don't want to work for a company that hires someone like that. but anyways they probably shouldn't of stated the reason they wanted time.
@@CareerTherapy yea or even psychopath's hey i have a question for you, im in a similar situation. i was told on the phone 2 days ago that i "should" be expecting an offer letter once the backround check is done, but i have a good feeling another company may call me back as well. i really want to go ahead with the first company but i dont want to turn the 2nd company down until i see the official letter. what should i tell the 2nd company if they also call and want to proceed with a backround check or another interview?.......also when they do these checks do you think they call my last place and ask what kind of worker i was? (i'm nervous cus i got a few warnings for calling out). and the job before that i did get fired for missing days
@@gristamshackleford2102 Keep going with both processes until you have offers in writing. If you have one in writing and are waiting on the other, try to negotiate a later start date, accept the offer, then turn it down if the other one comes through with better terms. (obviously I'm using short hand here, you have to communicate with each company thoughtfully so they don't take it the wrong way). They sometimes call past employers, but that's usually if they ask for references. Past employers also typically don't talk specific details about employees with other companies, they want to keep that in house. If they ask about your references, give them people who will speak highly of you. There is no one right thing here, but they're just trying to make sure you don't have any criminal activity or other types of things in your background checks.
@@CareerTherapy thanks man, i should be good. i was never in prison, and these are just simple maintenance mechanic jobs. no big security clearance, im just nervous cus it's been a few days already
@@gristamshackleford2102 They always take longer than we want them to. It feels longer for the seeker than the employer. Paitence is key. If you follow-up, do it in a helpful way. "Checking in to see if there is anything additional you need from me to keep things moving forward..." type of a message.
I am jobless since 5 months. I am in a country where if i accept an offer i have to join it. I might get one offer in next 2-3 days and another after 3 weeks. Both are verbal as of now. I had requested for personal favour of some one to recommend me for the second offer. I am worried, will i offend my recommender of i accept first offer and don't wait for the second offer? Work wise both are equivalent, so i don't have much preference of one over other. Ideally, I would like to wait for second offer to keep my word to recommender, but don't want to miss first offer as second one will come 3 weeks later. Till then its all in words, no signed agreements. And after 5 months without job, i am not confident of taking chances any more. What do you suggest how can i buy 3 weeks time to sign the first contract? Bear in mind, if i accept, i will have to join.
It might be hard to buy 3 full weeks. I can't give a solid answer, as I am not there in the situation with you, but you might have to take the first offer, since the second one is not guaranteed. Worst case scenario, you turn down the first and then don't get the second and end up with nothing. Can you talk to the person who recommended you and ask for their advice? Say you got an offer and you have to accept by xx date. Ask if there is any way to know about the 2nd offer by then. If they can't give an answer in time, they will miss out on you. But, at the end of the day you have to protect yourself. So, I can't tell you what to do, but don't sacrifice your opportunity for fear of burning a bridge. This is business, not person. Be respectful. Communicate with kindness. Take care of yourself.
Thanks a lot. I know it's a bit tricky situation where the manager for offer 2 is losing things at personal level internally in his company on my behalf. So I fear embarrassing him if I don't take us his offer. On the other hand, the first company has come to me after another candidate could not be onboarded due to some visa issues (that's what I am told). So I know I was their second preference and the reason was that I am little over experienced for that role. But I know I will still have some learning in that role, plus I am jobless since months. So I was ready for any role to be honest. Any other suggestions you can make to handle this tricky situation? I will speak to my contact in second company anyways but I think I should do this only once I have written offer from first company, right?
@@DineshSharma-jr2gu Hope things went well with the convos. Ideally you can navigate this without embarrassing anyone. If they are a professional person, and you handle things professionally, there should be no embarrassment. Then you have to weight that risk with the risk of not getting the job you need for your life to improve. Your life should outweigh another person's embarrassment. Be kind. Give time. Make the decision you have to. They are the ones taking their time and going slow at the end of the day. Good luck.
"Being offended" is an obvious exageration. The main issue is that the candidate made a counter offer that was accepted. He shouldn't have been that transparent with the fact he was juggling offers. Accepting it and eventually quitting would have been a better course of action.
Thank you for your advice sir. I have 2 offers (one pays really well) other is still at the beginning interview but has dramatically better growth prospects. I accepted the one that pays well and I'm dancing around with the 2nd one. I kinda felt bad for potentially screwing the first company but after what you told me .... its just "business" and they would stab me the first chance they get anyway.
Can you imagine working for a boss that is easily offended? He could've been more tactful in responding. She dodged a bullet.
total bullet dodge.
That’s what I would say too. If you’re that unprofessional she’s better off. They wouldn’t care if they chose another applicant over you.
This is sensible. Someone is always going to be disappointed when multiple offers are incoming. Better that it's not yourself. The first company will understand, and the next time it may be their offer that is accepted from under the noses of another.
This is exactly the situation I’m in right now 😅😅 I have no idea what to do, that’s why I’m watching the video
Wishing you the best of luck! Lmk if you need additional help.
It’s so stressful 😩
Can’t go wrong being transparent with the second interview.
I just got three interviews next week and it’s my first IT position after all these low income jobs.
1 Proud of my self to finally moving into a real career that all these retail and warehouse jobs
2 this is great advice because you don’t know what the company is looking for
What I have also heard is “feel it out in the interview”
I definitely understand where you’re coming from with these “rat race” jobs any who hopefully those interviews went great
I am kind of approaching the same situation. So helpful. Big thanks.
The best video ever......same situation as per the first candidate. Am well guided.
So kind of you to say :) Glad it helped! Good luck with your negotiation
Very helpful! Fingers crossed for everyone!
I almost had this problem, but the one at a different company fell through. A position in my company opened that will allow me to keep my pay and benefits, but with better hours and flexibility.
Such a helpful video! In a similar situation and it really helped, thank you!
I got 2 job offers, I accepted the first one, currently going to work while waiting the other one next month🙂 I will figure it out leaving my current company once I get to start with the other one who offered me a competitive salary twice this current one.
Congrats!
This is an excellent and a very helpful video, Thank you very much! I hope you will grow more in numbers. Subscribed!
Glad it helped!
Thanks a lot, this was super helpful!!!!
I like your logic and approach.
So kind of you to say F Alba -- lmk if you got any other topics you'd like to see us discuss :)
I just showed a card too many to a potential employer and I wish I had seen this video beforehand. I got 3 job offers today and I wish I was prepared for this situation before telling one of them I couldn’t answer right away >:0
Very useful and helpful video... Thank you very much for the share.
Awesome video! This can feel like a delicate situation, but like you said it's a business transaction. Thank you
I have an offer I accepted and they were very inflexible with the start date so I had to give 1 week vs 2 week notice to my current employer. The next day i got an offer from a better opportunity and accepted, however negotiations are ongoing and nothing signed yet. At this rate I may have to start the new job and quit. The new job is a contract to hire and the offer is permanent. I really need help crafting an email or guiding the conversation with the company I accepted the offer from as I don’t want to burn any bridges
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I'm in this situation right now. I've already accepted one offer but another company offered me a role this week. It's already been a few days and haven't said anything other than needing to review contract 😅
I might be in the first situation this week as a retired educator who wants me for the two positions. Might be better to call but the reply u got back might be a good indication of you not working for that company
Thank you for this video. I’m also going through the same thing. Super helpful.
Whoa man... I needed this video
glad it was helpful Rodney. Any other topics you'd like to see in future videos?
@@CareerTherapy I have sub'd to your channel... The topic of "what are the most important questions to ask after. An interview" may already be a topic you covered... But if it has not... Please do!
@@rodneyharris5606 Will do! keep an eye out
I was about to run into this situation, but the surprising thing was that the contract job that came first paid a lot more than the second permanent position. So then ended up keeping the contract job. Otherwise I would've had to quit it before starting... which is nasty, but definitely worth it if it would've improved the situation!
that's great! good job navigating the process
@@CareerTherapy plot twist: the perm job upped their offer massively to exceed the pay of the contract (but has bonus potential). Burning the bridge for 80k looks worth it though
That's incredible! @@bla7091 Bravo on winning your negotiation. Keep us posted on what you choose to do.
Thanks, I'm going with the perm job in this instance! It was a bit against the norm I must admit, but the pay difference is so incredibly large that I can afford to burn a bridge to the other employer. Or rather to the recruitment agency, the employer understood. There are exceptions to most rules :)
Great information, underrated video
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant! Subscribed
Good advice!
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful advice! Thank you.
I've been at my current job for about a year. It's relatively comfortable and "safe" but the salary is just not enough to be able to adequately save for my future. I was recently offered a job for a significantly higher salary (45k to 70k) and I accepted it but I have not given my two weeks yet. On paper the new job is perfect. But something I have been concerned about is the fact that I suffer from severe anxiety and struggle with change and interacting with people. I would rather not do this but I am afraid that if I put my two weeks notice in, and I take this other job that I can't psychologically handle, then I'm leaving myself with nothing.
So I decided to ask for a week off from my current job (vacation time) to secretly give the new job a test drive and to make my decision after the end of that week.
I feel shitty doing this, I don't want to abruptly leave my current position, but I also want to know that I have secured a job for myself at the end of the day that I can handle.
Am I wrong? Any advice for this type of situation? Thank you
Sorry to hear about your anxieties around this process. I know how hard it can be.
On the plus side, you know your skills are marketable and you have options in the career marketplace. That is awesome! And is something we can come back to for reassurance.
Congrats on the offer. Your question is a tough one, and while I can’t tell you exactly what to do, I can make a few observations to help clarify the thinking here.
While it might feel nice to have the security blanket of the current job, you’re also seeing the guilt that comes with trying to play both options and not giving your 2 weeks notice.
This is akin to someone trying to find a new partner to date before breaking up with their current partner. It complicates things.
The difference here is that you don’t owe your company anything. If you juggle the roles and they never find out, no harm no foul.
But, the issue is that it is stressing you out and muddying the waters.
The new opportunity sounds like a real step up, and the typical rule of thumb is to end thing properly before starting so that you can use your past job as a future reference.
My thought would be to put in the 2 weeks notice, start the new role, and then find a coach or therapist to help you manage your anxiety in the new role.
That said, it is your decision at the end of the day and I wish you the best of luck with what you decide.
Circle back and let me know how it all turns out.
any update on this? @levity90, Curious to know as I'm in this situation as well
@@Phil60421 I ended up taking the new job. I feel bad about leaving the way I did though. And my anxiety is still bad / worse.
Excellent advice.
Thank you, very informative.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you!
glad you enjoyed the video!
I like the suggestion to ask for flexibility with the start date. The only thing is the company could agree to it and still go ahead to send you the offer agreement and all other documents (background check, etc) as well as onboarding process. What then do you do in that scenario?
yep, if you are in an at-will employment state, you can quit at any time for any reason. In that case, you can accept the offer with the pushed out start date and if a better offer comes through, then you can rescind your first offer and take the 2nd before the job starts.
@@CareerTherapy Ok I guess burning bridges is still inevitable in some scenarios like this one, even when we don’t want that lol!
@@CarolyneNaomi if you recommend someone to replace you, it might not be that bad
This is so apt,but am in the situation now,am a nurse got a staffing agency offer,,though I signed the offer in other to kick off the contract but later got a direct hire interview,
at the same organization? In that case I would talk to the team that is interviewing you for the new role about the staffing contract, cause there might be some legal/contractual things to keep in mind.
I’m an honest person, so I’m going to remain honest in situations like this just to see my future boss’s reaction. If it’s a negative reaction then my mind is made up to walk away. If it happens once it will happen again
There is a difference between honesty and oversharing. Very few companies are being honest with their employees. They share information on a need to know basis. Sometimes they know they are laying off their team months before they tell anyone. There are levels to honesty. What is shared with a friend is different than a family member, is different than a stranger. We must be discerning with what we share, how much we share, and with whom we share. I’ve seen too many people think honesty and oversharing are the same thing, leading to outcomes they could have avoided just by saying less. Share what you feel comfortable sharing. Not here to tell you what to do. Just, illuminating what I’ve seen over the years. Companies are not honest. You have every right to be honest. But, people also need to protect themselves.
@CareerTherapy Not all companies are dishonest though.
I live my life of "Don't expect from others what you don't do yourself".
So I will be loyal for as long as I am shown loyalty. But if I am shown disloyalty, I no longer need to be loyal anymore.
I give people the benefit of the doubt, until they give me a reason to think otherwise.
@@dhenderson1810 agreed. I give people the benefit of the doubt, but not “companies”. I’ve seen too many honest managers put into dishonest situations due to corporate, legal, political, etc circumstances. Trust is good. And employees need to protect themselves
Is this a good way to do if i have an offer accepted from company 1 and 2 company is offering me more CRC, then can we re-negotiate with first company as its very good but less CTC
How much more is it? If you have already signed the first offer, re-negotiation that quickly is not ideal. You've agreed to the terms and now are coming back with changes when they think things are fine. You might be able to do it, but you also more than likely will put a bad taste in their mouth. If the other offer is not a ton more, and you like the first company more, stick with company 1. If company 2 is better AND has better pay, then you can leave company one and go to company 2. But, of course, what you do is up to you. Let us know what you choose.
This was so helpful
Wht if someone is immediately joiner.. How can he negotiate more time
Jake Gyllenhaal now giving carrier advices? I'm in :).
Making me blush 😊
I would like to clarify if the start date is extended in the first company, would it burn bridges with the first company if she said that she will not anymore continue with the offer? This is in case she got the job offer secured with the second company.
It would depend on the person you’re dealing with and how you communicate it. If they extend the start date, and you get another offer, you wouldn’t tell them that. Instead, you would say, “There have been some changes in my personal situation and I am no longer able to move forward with this role. Apologies for the inconvenience.” It might burn the bridge, it might not, but you’re allowed to do that. You don’t ever HAVE to take a role that you don’t want, or don’t have to take. If the other company has a better offer and you get it in writing, it is best to go with the best offer, not accept the first, worse offer, out of guilt or worry of bridge burning.
What if the two job applications are within the same company and you are still waiting for hearing from the position you like best?
You should only apply to one job at a company. Applying to multiple makes it seem like you don’t know what you want on their side. In this case apply to the one you really want, don’t apply to the other, and try ti network to get an internal connection at the company if you can.
They have all the info on the inside, so trying to juggle the offers against each other is going to be difficult
What would you do if you’re waiting on a counter offer after their original offer but it feels like they are either taking their sweet time or dangling you?
It is important to keep all your irons in the fire until you have signed on the dotted line.
If you're waiting to hear back form the 1st company, because they are taking their sweet time, while the 2nd company has already delivered a written contract and is waiting for your signature, what you want to do is nudge the 1st company a bit and extend the 2nd company signature as much as possible.
You can email the first company and ask when they expect to have an updated contract to review and ask if there is anything they need from you in order to keep things moving forward.
You can ask the 2nd company some clarifying questions about vacation, start dates, etc. to extend your "review" period before signing.
You can sign the 2nd offer since it is already in hand, but move your start date out a week or two which will give you time to finalize the 1st contract and see if it ends up being better than the second.
The main thing you want to make sure is that you don't lose any of the offers. Worst case scenario, accept the 2nd offer while you're waiting to hear back from the first, and then if the other contract comes through and it is too good to be true, you can always rescind your offer acceptance from the 2nd company and go work for the 1st. That way you're secure either way.
Hope that made sense. Lmk if you have additional questions, or if I can clarify any of the above.
@@CareerTherapy thanks so much! That’s great advice and I’ll do that! Thank you!
Hi, I received a written job offer from Company A like almost 2 weeks ago. I am currently waiting for Company B’s (My goal company) decision but it’s taking some time. A few days ago, I emailed the HR from Company B and told them that I received a job offer from another institution and because of this I wanted to know if they already made a final decision whether or not they would give me a job offer… the HR called me that night and said that I passed all the interviews, she’s giving me a verbal confirmation that I got the post BUT there’s not specific date when they can send me a written job offer since the hiring manager is on leave due to bereavement… is this normal? What is the best thing to do?? Hope you can help me 🙏🏻
Very normal. What you will probably have to do in this scenario is accept the first job while waiting to hear back from the second. Then if the second job gives you a better offer, you'll have to find a way to bow out of the first job and take the second.
Try to only share the minimum amount you have to with each company to get the offers you want and negotiate with both to see what the best offers you can get are.
If you need help navigating this, you can set up time to chat with me at careertherapy.com
Also rewatch the video and read the comments as there is great info in this threat :)
Hope this helped
Last note. Don't tell the 2nd company that you accepted the first offer. Just let them send their contract when it is ready. Most states are at-will employment and you can quit anytime (double check this in your state). If the second company's offer is better than the first, then you turn the first down and go with the second. But, try not to give reasons, just say it was something that you had a life change and can no longer proceed with the role at this time.
Companies do this to employees all the time when budgets change or they eliminate roles. It is business, not personal. As companies always say.
@@CareerTherapy Thank you very very much for your effort to reply. Understood and I appreciate it.
I have 3 job offers I’m 9 years experienced plumbers. The first offer is from one of the biggest plumbing companies in the country however not that big in my region but is growing however they require a clean mvr I have 2 points on my license for speeding. I just did a drug test like 4 days ago but there taking a long time this is my first choice I hope they don’t rescind offer. The second company is like 18 biggest plumbing company in the nation they want to start immediately I want more time though. The 3rd seems like they’re about hire they’re seeing if they can insure me. They have a few locations in California. What do I do. The company I want is taking along time through the background process I think they have biggest potential for fat checks. They all like the experience though.
Fingers crossed they don't rescind - let us know how it goes!
See if you can get an extra day or two to respond to the 2nd company by following up with some questions. Have they already sent a written offer?
Remember that for all of these, if it is not in writing, it is not yet real. So, try to get all of them in writing. If you have to make a decision before you get everything in writing from the other companies, make the best decision you can with the real offers you have in hand. If you get an offer for another company AFTER accepting the first offers, you can always go back and rescind your acceptance. If companies can pull a written offer after giving it to you, you can rescind after accepting. But, check the contract to ensure there are no penalties for doing so and make sure you're in a location with at-will employment.
Amen Brother
Take than can always change
I am currently in this situation, and it's frustrating. I don't know what to do. One company is a large corporation but offers a salary that is $18,000 less than the smaller company, which is still significant. However, the smaller company is in the process of organizing an onsite interview, and I have no idea when it will take place. All I've been told is that I am their top candidate. I don't know what to do
keep pursuing both. treat each interview process like the other one does not exist. Try to get offers from both and see what they offer. When you have both offers in hand ready to be signed, you can make your decision. Don't worry until you have an offer in hand.
If one company extends and offer and the other is dragging things out, accept the first offer. If the 2nd one comes back with a better offer and you want to take it, then accept it and go back to the first one and decline.
Negotiate both to the best of your ability, but don't worry until everything is in writing. Only deal with real offers in writing, not imaginary offers that don't exist yet.
Sounds like you just need to focus on crushing the interviews now. It might all sort itself out in the end. But, know you have control over what you accept and reject. Just don't reject the written offer for an imaginary alternative.
@@CareerTherapy I have an offer with the bigger company ready and I am at the last stage of interview for the smaller company that pays more they (small company) are expected to give me an interview next week.
@@asvpjoeyevdo9798 Which team do you feel you fit in with better based on the interviews?
When does the bigger company need an answer by?
If they need an answer before you get the other offer, you can accept, then rescind your offer later if the smaller company gives you a better offer. But, don't turn down the first one if you don't have the second offer in hand.
@@CareerTherapy by Tuesday
@@CareerTherapy sounds good, I will accept this offer and go along when the other companies come I will just accept them them as well
i'm so confused , im in the same dilemma and need your opinion. . I got job offer last week for job A and took the position. This week i got an offer for job B which pays more, about $7k more a year. Job A is a hybrid schedule that works 2 days in the the office while Job B is hybrid schedule but have to work 4 days in the office. Job A has better medical insurance benefits than job B. I was working for job B previously for 4 years so i have seniority there if i take that while Job A is a brand new company. With all those factors said, which one would you take, Job A or B ????
Job A: Pays $7k less (approx 3.5k after taxes), has 2 days in office, better medical, does not have seniority.
Job B: Pays $7k more (approx 3.5k after taxes), has 4 days in office, worse medical, has seniority.
While I cannot make this decision for you, I think laying it out is helpful. The key is to figure out your priorities and long term goals.
What is most important? PAY, POSITION, or PEOPLE, if you had to rank these three.
If it is PAY first, then you take the one that pays more. If it is position, then you take the more senior role, if it is people, then you go to the company with better culture/vibe.
The one thing I want to highlight is that the healthcare benefits might add up to be more than the $7k increase in salary (esp after tax), so keep that in mind when analyzing pay.
And at the end of the day check with your gut. Which one feels most right to you? Which one gives you a better vision of the future and which one do you click with the people more?
Let me know what you choose. Likely both options are great, with only minor differences/nuances between them.
- Coach Marty
@@CareerTherapy Honestly, i been weighing all the different options. Even creating a spreadsheet and powerpoint, but cant seem to make up my mind. I understand you can't make an opinion but if this was in your shoes, which one would you take honestly? Just wanted to get a lot of peoples opinion who has a great deal of expertise such as yourself.
@@bj10jgo Hey Gina - I am going to resist telling you what to do, because honestly, I don't know the right answer any more than you do. Especially since i don't have the contracts in front of me and am unsure of your past working relationship with company B. At the end of the day, truthfully, either job will probably be fine. When they are as similar as you've laid out here, a pros/cons list is less helpful because you're literally comparing apples to apples. You could probably toss a coin and whichever it lands on is fine. If neither company has any massive red flags, both pay about the same, and the work is pretty much equal, I say go for the one that is most comfortable. I am uncertain which one would give you the best future opportunities, but from what you've said they are likely fairly equal in that respect too. If the job you've already started is good so far and you're happy there, stick with it. Just make sure you don't burn bridges at company B, in case 6 months, or 2 years from now you want to reach back out to them and switch back. I know you want a clear answer, but believe me, you'll be much happier making this call yourself and I believe in you to know what is right for you in this moment at this time in your life. Sounds like a win/win either way to me. Let me know what you end up going with :)
@@CareerTherapy Makes sense, thank you so much for your input.
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Hi, I am a fresher at beginning of my career. Have got an offer from a company for X amount, and am hoping to get an offer from some other company hopefully equal or greater than this company. How do I negotiate with the first company now, if they can increase my package, knowing, they have offered a higher package to the people who interviewed and got offer for same role with me(means the company pays more). How do I approach, through mail or call. I am so confused.or should I not negotiate. Please help, I am just a fresher.
Hey @itsparth7634 you can negotiate via email or on the phone. The goal is to think of it as a budgeting conversation. Asking if they had additional budget to get up to $XX number. They either can or can't and then you decide to accept or reject. Just try to ask for something reasonable within 5-10k if you're under six figs, or 10-20 if you're over six figs. Or what is reasonable for what they pay other people. Negotiating is always expected. Not always given. But if you're just asking a question about budget they shouldn't take offense.
if they were insulted by something as little as asking for more time, then that means they are narcissist, and you don't want to work for them anyway. or even if you weren't working directly for them, then you don't want to work for a company that hires someone like that. but anyways they probably shouldn't of stated the reason they wanted time.
...it has been debated that many ceo's probably qualify as narcissists
@@CareerTherapy yea or even psychopath's hey i have a question for you, im in a similar situation. i was told on the phone 2 days ago that i "should" be expecting an offer letter once the backround check is done, but i have a good feeling another company may call me back as well. i really want to go ahead with the first company but i dont want to turn the 2nd company down until i see the official letter. what should i tell the 2nd company if they also call and want to proceed with a backround check or another interview?.......also when they do these checks do you think they call my last place and ask what kind of worker i was? (i'm nervous cus i got a few warnings for calling out). and the job before that i did get fired for missing days
@@gristamshackleford2102 Keep going with both processes until you have offers in writing. If you have one in writing and are waiting on the other, try to negotiate a later start date, accept the offer, then turn it down if the other one comes through with better terms. (obviously I'm using short hand here, you have to communicate with each company thoughtfully so they don't take it the wrong way). They sometimes call past employers, but that's usually if they ask for references. Past employers also typically don't talk specific details about employees with other companies, they want to keep that in house. If they ask about your references, give them people who will speak highly of you. There is no one right thing here, but they're just trying to make sure you don't have any criminal activity or other types of things in your background checks.
@@CareerTherapy thanks man, i should be good. i was never in prison, and these are just simple maintenance mechanic jobs. no big security clearance, im just nervous cus it's been a few days already
@@gristamshackleford2102 They always take longer than we want them to. It feels longer for the seeker than the employer. Paitence is key. If you follow-up, do it in a helpful way. "Checking in to see if there is anything additional you need from me to keep things moving forward..." type of a message.
my impulse is to look up youtube videos
I am jobless since 5 months. I am in a country where if i accept an offer i have to join it.
I might get one offer in next 2-3 days and another after 3 weeks. Both are verbal as of now. I had requested for personal favour of some one to recommend me for the second offer. I am worried, will i offend my recommender of i accept first offer and don't wait for the second offer?
Work wise both are equivalent, so i don't have much preference of one over other.
Ideally, I would like to wait for second offer to keep my word to recommender, but don't want to miss first offer as second one will come 3 weeks later. Till then its all in words, no signed agreements. And after 5 months without job, i am not confident of taking chances any more.
What do you suggest how can i buy 3 weeks time to sign the first contract?
Bear in mind, if i accept, i will have to join.
It might be hard to buy 3 full weeks. I can't give a solid answer, as I am not there in the situation with you, but you might have to take the first offer, since the second one is not guaranteed. Worst case scenario, you turn down the first and then don't get the second and end up with nothing.
Can you talk to the person who recommended you and ask for their advice? Say you got an offer and you have to accept by xx date. Ask if there is any way to know about the 2nd offer by then.
If they can't give an answer in time, they will miss out on you. But, at the end of the day you have to protect yourself. So, I can't tell you what to do, but don't sacrifice your opportunity for fear of burning a bridge. This is business, not person. Be respectful. Communicate with kindness. Take care of yourself.
Thanks a lot. I know it's a bit tricky situation where the manager for offer 2 is losing things at personal level internally in his company on my behalf. So I fear embarrassing him if I don't take us his offer.
On the other hand, the first company has come to me after another candidate could not be onboarded due to some visa issues (that's what I am told). So I know I was their second preference and the reason was that I am little over experienced for that role. But I know I will still have some learning in that role, plus I am jobless since months. So I was ready for any role to be honest.
Any other suggestions you can make to handle this tricky situation?
I will speak to my contact in second company anyways but I think I should do this only once I have written offer from first company, right?
@@DineshSharma-jr2gu Hope things went well with the convos. Ideally you can navigate this without embarrassing anyone. If they are a professional person, and you handle things professionally, there should be no embarrassment. Then you have to weight that risk with the risk of not getting the job you need for your life to improve. Your life should outweigh another person's embarrassment. Be kind. Give time. Make the decision you have to. They are the ones taking their time and going slow at the end of the day. Good luck.
A bird in hand is worth two in the bush.
damn right!
I like it
I appreciate it.
It is not their business to know that you have another interview, Just say you have things to think about and sort out and need more time. That is it.
Accept Accept Accept. There are bigger problems than cherry picking between job offers😂
"Being offended" is an obvious exageration. The main issue is that the candidate made a counter offer that was accepted. He shouldn't have been that transparent with the fact he was juggling offers. Accepting it and eventually quitting would have been a better course of action.
yep
Yaar ek offer to mile hath me wohi join kar lenge aur unke sath long time tk rukenge...
Yeah let not be honest. Be honest when u quit the job.
Offended? 😂
Thank you for your advice sir. I have 2 offers (one pays really well) other is still at the beginning interview but has dramatically better growth prospects. I accepted the one that pays well and I'm dancing around with the 2nd one. I kinda felt bad for potentially screwing the first company but after what you told me .... its just "business" and they would stab me the first chance they get anyway.
It's just business. Do what is best for you.