Signs You Should Decline The Job Offer
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- 9 Signs you should decline the job offer. Are you interviewing and not feeling certain about the offer? Should you accept the job offer? In this video I'll break down 9 reasons why you may want to pass on that job offer.
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I made an experiement. I applied randomly in differents jobs. I went 7 interviews. I was rejected in every single one I told the truth. I was accepted in 2 where I just invented everything. I lied like a pro. This is the world we are living.
That's a great story, if legit. I would totally do that if I was bored and was not in a hurry to find a job.
@@wmluna381 It is. It was part of a project for a tesis. I'm sociologist.
Was your truth relevant to the jobs you were interviewing for? Is your truth somehow obviously unattractive to potential employers? How spot on were your “lies”? What were the controls? Where there interviews where a mix if truth and lies were involved? Sounds like an interesting experiment with a boat load of variables.
Edit to add: how were the interviewers supposed to know what was truth and what was lies? Particularly if you were convincing in your lies as you suggested?
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So true! They dont want the Truth. They like the made up lies. Itso twisted.
Sign #1: If working 40+ hours a week still keeps you below the poverty line. Just walk right out of the interview.
"We are a family"
"Fast-paced work environment"
"Flexible schedule!"
"We're more than just a job!"
"Entry level job, 5 years experience required"
Wait, why is “flexible schedule” a red flag?
@@anastasiabennett4854 meaning while others in the organization have a set schedule and can make plans ahead for their scheduled days off the new hire will not. The new hire will be scheduled on rotating shifts, days, and it will change weekly so making any plans in advance is impossible-you never know your schedule. It's basically like working as a new flight attendant. If the company isn't giving you FT hours this type of scheduling makes it impossible to work an additional job. Avoid flex scheduling at all costs.
Thanks!
@@natthebratster can 2nd that as my exact personal experience trying to juggle 2 jobs at once. Not worth the headache.
@@anastasiabennett4854 From my experience, flexible schedules became lots of unpaid overtime and uneven work-life balance because I had to be flexible and available for clients outside of the regular 9-5
You forgot one or two...if the ad says "fast paced environment" or "multitasking" ... ultimate bait and switch phrases.
Call centers...having worked at several, just reading those words burn me out. I work doing online chat, doing 3 chats at a time so it's also fast-paced but at least I don't have to talk and I'm getting paid WAY more than I was when I was on the phone. As one who hates using the phone, I'll take the trade-off.
"Other duties as assigned" is another one...
@@steveconsultant4523 such as cleaning the bathroom, taking out the trash, washing the windows... lol I’ve worked a few internships where this was a requirement by interns. Basically, they didn’t want to hire a janitor and for free they make the interns take on this role.
" competitive salary" is another one. It means low pay
@guillermo Cartagena I don't know other sectors, but I see this in ads for software devs. It indicates the managers don't understand lean, and they compensate by pressure on employees.
After 23 years of employment I have never found a good employer
Yep. It's a myth. Hence the great resignation. Working sucks. What are people's career goals? Retire ASAP.
45 years of employment. "Retired" back in March. Inflation is killing me. Was it worth it? No.
Cut throats , rats and barely scraping by. Large mega corporations with their overpaid , buzzword using , minion managers . The other option is the small ,family run company. A disfunctional , emotionally driven , fear laden dictatorship that is obsessed with penny pinching but wastes thousands doing it. I d rather just steal for a living.
I had one once, and the the company got bought out and everything went bad quickly. It was very disappointing, and I haven't found anything remotely like them since.
What exactly is good?
When the employer says "we're like family here". Shit goes south for jobs I've done with employers say that, that's code for "we'll treat you like shit".
YES! I worked for a government agency that said that very same phrase. It's was more like a dysfunctional family. I ended up quitting. Absolutely toxic and dysfunctional work environment.
Yes, Beca. That means, "Accept being treated like shit and like it!".
That's odd, because my old man works for a job that actually treats other co-workers like family, yet they don't advertise it. lol
I am in no way trolling your thread. I still get to hear him talk about it, at times. The only problem is, no one there likes his immediate manager.
Meaning, there’s going to be a lot of guilt trips and favoritism. Everyone who’s from a big family understands this dilemma.
Yes, I got the "We are more of a collective" statement. That ended up translating to "You can write SOPs on how to handle things, but we will always punt them back to you to avoid work".
Good points, but you forgot one major red flag. If the company takes too long to present you with an offer after your interview, run! I once accepted a job that took a month to respond back to me. I ended up walking off the job in tears after a few months. It was the worst environment I ever experienced! Not only were they extremely unorganized, but I was written up for lies that people said about me without hearing my side. It was very stressful and psychologically traumatizing. No support by management.
or too quick in my case
The same exact thing happened to me back in 2019. I was terminated from a job I held for 5 years due to some political bs with the CTO, after which I was desperately seeking to find new employment so as not to collect unemployment insurance for too long. My utmost mistake was being too hasty in accepting a job offer at a mismanaged MSP, which not only lowballed me but had me running around NYC to service their obnoxious and arrogant financial services clients. I got so stressed and burned out that I ended up having an anxiety attack and walking off the job. I ended up having to take 3 months of short-term disability leave because I came down with severe PTSD and manic depression. When I returned to work, they treated me like I had leprosy, and this is when I realized that I worked for a toxic environment and needed to get out. I came to find out later that they actually had one of their project managers end up in the hospital after suffering a stress related heart attack. Needless to say, I resigned after finding a well-paying contract job and tore that MSP apart on Glassdoor with a scathing negative review about their toxic work culture and disorganized upper management. I've learned from past mistakes to never rush to accept a job offer prior to researching the company to find out if it's a cultural fit.
I had a job do that to me before I ended up declining their offer after they wanted me to pay out of pocket for TB and physical test and yet the job didn't provide benefits.
Did I apply for this job?!?!?!? Just had this experience and now I am at home trying to recover before I get back into the job search. Trying not to be cynical, but people are so cruel and out to get you when they feel intimidated.
The same thing happened to me where they took a month to make an offer. After showing up, the other workers let me know they had hired someone else right before me, but she quit. Didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that I was second choice. Awesome! One of my co-workers was rude, awful, mean, and just a downright terrible person. NO WONDER the other person quit. She was so bad, that I called the temp agency I was hired through and told them I still wanted to keep searching for something, this job wasn't going to work out. Then, at the end of my first week, I got a call saying that they didn't want me back. Turns out the awful co-worker told our boss all these lies about me and were COMPLETELY MADE UP, just downright lies, and weren't even close to the truth. Instead of my boss asking me about the lies and giving me the chance to defend myself, he just let me go! Any place with such terrible communication wasn't worth working for anyway, so they did me a favor. I wouldn't have lasted much longer on my own free will anyway. I got a new job in the same industry somewhere else, and was working there for a year or two when they hired another person. Turns out that person ALSO worked at the previous place, and told me that they went through so many people until they finally figured out that the reason was because of that awful person, and THEN they finally fired her. Took them long enough!
Screw the corporate world. I retired in my 50’s and adjusted my lifestyle to accommodate that goal and could not be happier. The world has changed; companies want the work of three from one person, travel has gotten unreasonable, executive compensation is out of control. HR is especially bad - a bloated and incompetent organization that has gotten a bad reputation. The days of employee / company trust is over.
could not agree more....
Yep! Everyone is for themselves!!
AMEN to that!! It's everywhere. Sad and so hard to swallow their BS for another 2 decades. So over it, cant even.
@@michelleg925 just remember all you are is a number on a balance profit and loss sheet..." we are a big family" and all the other bullshit they say to get you to work for them...
Corporate America is a cesspool of well dressed back-stabbers, liars, thieves and cut-throat murders who have all been promoted to executive management for their ability to scapegoat the little people who actually do the work.
ALWAYS FACTOR COMMUTE - !!!!!
If you make $18 an hour, and you are offered $20 an hour but its 45 minutes away, you're going to eat that $2 raise and then some every single day in gas! It's not worth putting your raise into your gas tank!!
As well as your personal time on the road.
@@financialconsultant7403 Ah, I see this is the scam we were informed about. Nice.
@Soy Orbison I'm in the same boat. They want us to start coming in one day a week at the end of next month. We have argued the point that we are all MORE productive working from home than in the office but the boss started with the "we're a team" crap. I'm going to do a wait-and-see because I work well outside the city and only have a 30 minute commute so just quitting isn't an option but I'm hoping that I can continue to work from home for at least 3 days a week.
A lot of people don’t like to think about their commute costs or the hassle of a daily commute when accepting a job offer. It is like they are happy to have a higher income to report on their taxes even if their expenses are higher. Who are they impressing?
All my jobs have been at least an hour away. I get on the bus and go. Usually the cost doesn't vary.
"Shopping for a Mercedes....budget for a Honda!" That fits the problem with so many employers 100%. When I worked in a restaurant many, many years ago the saying was: "They want London Chophouse quality at McDonald's speed and White Castle wages!"
good analogy....they want as much as they can get out of you for the least amount of pay...every job is like that..once you accept that you can know how to play the game..
I've been on both sides of the desk, and I can say that prospective employees overvalue themselves due to either graduating from a particular university, or worked a year at a reputable company---all the while not acknowledging their lack of skill, or entitled attitude. A shit sandwich can be sliced both ways.
But u can get a beat up Mercedes at a price for a new honda
@@PhantomFilmAustralia
Thomas Sowell warned us of the loss of common decency and its affects on society.
I am of the belief this whole, rotten, narcissistic, back-stabbing system is going to burn.
In some places, it already literally has. God bless the fires in California.
@@manictiger Never mind blessing the fires. I'd be blessing the people affected by them.
Listen to your gut when interviewing. If it doesn't feel right, something's wrong. (Look especially for dirty offices, downtrodden managers, ambush-style interviews, or ambivalent and rude employees).
Ambush interviews really bother me! Can’t stand it.
Two weeks ago I withdrew my résumé from my position because that human resources contact got huffy and puffy with me on the phone after I asked her to reschedule due to an unexpected project that was placed on my desk the day before the scheduled interview. If human resources gets a bad attitude with the candidates I can only imagine what everyone else does in the company.
It's hard to listen to your gut when both jobs have red flags.
I saw no red flags. The job appeared perfect and that in itself a red flag no one tells you about. Sometimes employees will play along because they are so tired of manning the fort alone, misery loves company and I have worked in places where the employees have been sickly sweet during the probationary period only to show true colours after you’re made permanent.
Or people who have seemingly sized you up within seconds then talk down to you as if they are above you. Worse yet rushing the process.Thats when i get up and politely apologize for the confusion and leave like a gentleman. Don't ever let them do that to you.
When a job say they always have plenty of overtime
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#2 short staffed
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"Work Hard, Play Hard". God, I can't tell how many start-ups has this motto written around their walls while I'm interviewing for them. It always gave me bad vibes about it. Feels like I'll be made to "hustle and grind 24/7" without proper pay.
Rockstar, jedi, ninja... Am I going to throw shurikens at work?
I think it's ok if you have decent equity. Bust your ass for 3-5 years and never work again after that. But, f*ck doing that for 40+ years! It's just not sustainable.
I'll hustle hard for the right type of collaboration. If they look for an employee to hustle hard, they are deluded.
@@arthur_camara I have found that those are also signs that they won't be a good place for anyone older to work. And by older, I mean 30+
yes i had an interview recently where the owner told me "im always at the office". was a huge red flag as it will mean you will watch me leave everyday and get annoyed when im not as invested in your business
There is something wrong with every job. Pick your battle
Just show me the Money!!!
Agreed! If you decline a job for every little thing you're really pushing your luck, especially in the current market ..
Exactly. All jobs suck. I for once refuse to believe there is anyone who loves their job.
That’s why I choose not to work and rather be unemployed. I can’t deal with all that bs. The corporate world sucks.
@@Gnostic_Way_of_Life but how do you sustain your life? Life costs money.
This is where having several month’s salary saved in the bank is helpful. I have $ so I am not desperate and have to take whatever is offered. Save a little all the time if you can.
Work life balance is the single most important thing to me. I'm okay with getting paid a little less but having enough time to myself and my family. My previous manager used to sleep like 4 hours a day and work the rest. He got paid a lot but he looked absolutely horrible and used to be constantly sick.
I had one that bragged he only slept 6h a day. Lunatics.
If I knew about your boss I would have told mine, well that other boss sleeps less than you so no wonder he has a better car and younger wife.
I have a rep and history of doing 3-5 people’s work. If I say flexible hours or pay cut for reasonable schedule no one will hire me. Even if it costs them millions to hire 4 people to replace me
I quit a job just after the first wave of the pandemic as restrictions eased in late summer because i was burning the candle at both ends and couldn't do it anymore. I'd gotten used to living to work because I had no life and home was a draining place to be, and I needed the money, but that also meant they were used to me being available constantly and calling me in all the time. And because I was a certified doormat, I'd cave, even if I was exhausted.
I finally handed in my resignation and took what ended up being 6 months to reprioritize and get my head on straight, get some work done around the house, etc. My old boss who worked at the place I'd just left had moved to a new company and asked if I needed a job, so I jumped on it. Still there now, though got an interview for another one tomorrow (first one doesn't give enough work hours to pay the bills) to fill the gaps, but the times available will let me have a work-life balance. That's become the most important thing to me, too. I have pets to take care of, a garden, home maintenance, and neighbors to look after. I can't live to work anymore, just work to live.
To add to your advice: overtime should be your decision, not theirs. My current employer understands that the work I do takes a certain amount of time and that there is plenty of said work to go around. They also understand that if they want the work done sooner they need to pay for it. They do not mind paying a bit of overtime so long as it's not excessive and I don't want to work that much overtime anyways. My point is they allow me to set my overtime at will and within reason and in return they get the work done sooner than they project. This company has learned a lot of lessons many others just simply don't; which is night and day compared to my previous employer who metaphorically grafted my work phone to my head.
Look at the parking lot. If the cars are old and run down, they don't pay well.
lol I know a guy with a corvette at work who deliberately drives his crappy car into work when big wig managers are in so he looks poor
I used to actually do this! But then I moved to Chicago, and started working downtown so now I can't see that anymore, as the majority of people working downtown commute by bus or train.
Not necessarily. Maybe they are all frugal. Drive by their houses. 😂
Haha facts!
Or there are campers because then people may be living in them (I saw this at one place I worked).
Interviewed for a job probably 10 years ago. Went through hoops in the interview, then they said I "didn't meet the qualifications" said ok. 2 days later they called me and said "We have reconsidered, we'd like to hire you on a temp basis.". I immediately said "NO!" And I have zero regrets about that.😊
Excellent stuff. One thing you didn't mention is that if you're offered a job via a recruitment agent, then they often will pressure you into accepting as they obviously get their commission. I once turned down a job via an agent and the agent ended up getting VERY abusive with me by the end of the process. So try not to be influenced by the pressure of recruitment agents.
@@_baller Often you don't have a choice. On this occasion it was the only way to apply for the role. I agree that as a hiring manager I much prefer not to use them, but as an applicant your hands are usually tied.
@@_baller Yeah I don't think I've encountered many recruiters that are not only good at their job but have the interests of candidates at heart. Guess it's the nature of the job, being effectively a sales role. Bryan also mentions about the importance of reading the job description, and that's an area I've seen recruiters really mess up by amending or modifying the JD to suit their own processes, leading to confusion with the candidate.
Yes, if the employer or recruiter or whoever tries to pressure you into signing something, that is an immediate turn off.
Agreed. The last role was via an agency. I was arguing with Agency. I stated " don't like the sound of role, Manageress sounded a nightmare, location wascawful, office was a throwback to the 80's. I lasted 8 days. It didn't work out. The kicker was Agency called saying it's with regret, company terminated booking! Was so happy. Will listen to my gut instinct.
@Soy Orbison Well it's a sales job. And sales people are generally a certain mindset. My advice would be that when you do find a recruiter who IS good AND has the right character then you build that relationship and make them a go-to person. There are great recruiters out there but in my experience they take some finding!
I accepted a job and quit three days later. I REALLY needed that job but I saw three things. 1) The employed were terrified and tip toed around like they were walking on egg shells. 2) I started on Wednesday. Friday rolled around and everyone gathered around for an informal meeting. The boss said "I think we will work Saturday but not Sunday." I asked another person if this was SOP and she said "yes." They never knew if they had the weekend off until that Friday and that often the boss would call them at home even late at night. 3) The boss made a gun threat aimed at me. I had been talking to his wife, who also worked there. We were talking about the business and the types of reports we produced. She was nice and I enjoyed talking to her. During the Friday meeting the boss says "What's mine is mines and if I catch anyone hitting on my wife I will shoot them. I have a gun in that cabinet over there. I agonized all night that night and then drove to the office and quit the next day. I should never have take that offer.
Yeah, that employer was both crazy and insecure. You did the right thing. Hopefully his company has failed by now.
I try to always find/ask friends or friends of friends / former colleagues who worked at a certain Company before I decide to work there. Even if they pay me double I would never go and work at certain Companies I heard bad things about. If I were you I'd leave a bad review on Glassdoor about that Company. I'm pretty sure that every boss has a boss so you could have mentioned this to him before leaving. Maybe his boss or HR could have moved you to a different team/boss.
Wow that is crazy 😂
Bruh you should have reported that threat of workplace violence immediately.
After multiple mass shootings police are required to take action regarding threats in the workplace due to liability.
Did you ever report him threatening you?
Multitasking! What happened to being FOCUSED on the work at hand? Wearing different hats..means a Jack of ALL trades but a Master of none! While making low wages!
I would have to disagree. This has not been the case for me, but the exact opposite. The full quote is “ A Jack of all trades and master of none, but is oftentimes times better than a master of one.”
As a nurse that has worn many hats in different roles, the well rounded knowledge has been as asset for me. It has given me leverage in my career and I use that knowledge everyday. A cardiac nurse is great. But if you advance your career into leadership roles, having done the job of all of your employees, it will help them respect you more and help you be a stronger leader. 😊 You just can’t lose focus on the long term goals and let yourself get stuck.
Actually you misquoted- I believe someone just commented the full quote, it's actually much much more interesting and perceptive if a quote
Multitasking causes more mistakes. Then you make a mistake and you get written up
Yeah, I think it's been pretty well published that multi-tasking doesn't really exist...our brains literally switch tasks. So it really means simultaneously managing multiple projects, not necessarily doing multiple things at the exact same time.
After taking a cognitive psychology and anatomy and physiology class, everytime I hear about multitasking I just get flashbacks to learning that no one multitasks. It's impossible because what you are actually doing is dividing your attention. A human fails at being the most effective and efficient when they do multiple tasks simultaneously.
Let me make this abundantly clear to everyone that reads this. Know your worth and be proud of your accomplishments. There is no one alive on this earth who is better than you, and you deserve better
The problem is that most people aren’t able to sell themselves. For example, if you’re a database admin what makes you a high level database admin, and why should I judge you to be the better candidate? In terms of work ethic, how does it stack up against other people you’ve worked with? If the job requires project management, how large are the projects that you’ve managed? Many people are passive, and say let the interviewer ask me about these things. It is really up to the job applicant to bring these things up.
Idk man there's a lot of things Im better at then certain people and the same thing the other way around.
England cricket board thought differently...
There are people better than me. I still know what my value is and what I'm worth. I don't buy that "no one alive on this earth who is better than you" nonsense. I don't need to.
Sad thing is, most employers have at least a few of these red flags. It's no wonder you see resumes where people change their job every 12 months or so. I once stuck it out for 3 years at a red flag employer. When I finally moved on I would say that 80%of those present when I started had already left. This really isn't unusual.
8 jobs in 12 years for that reason first job i stayed for 5 years last job i was there 2 years till covid made them shut down
Yeah, no job is perfect. These are good tips, but people need to realize that not everything is going to be perfect. Every job is gonna have some problems.
@@ExplosiveWeaponForum I've had 8 jobs in 5 years. Employers/people can be very toxic. I used to stick it out & suffer, now I quit at the very 1st sign of baloney/hr crap/screwover/toxic co-workers. I'm simply too burnt-out on drama.
I've had the same experience. I managed to stay 3 years and 5 years at 2 red flag employers. Most people stayed between 6 months and 2 years. You constantly had to train new people, and the company constantly had adverts (through recruitment agencies) saying they were hiring because the business was growing. The business wasn't growing, they just wanted to make sure they could replace leavers, and the fact that they were constantly interviewing prospective employees even when none of us had given their resignation enabled them to put pressure on us: 'I've got several people lined up who would love to get your job, so if you don't like it here, just leave!'
I am really quite angry with the recruitment agencies who enable that behaviour. Other people, besides myself, must have given them feedback about those companies. They are quite incompetent too, several times I've been contacted by recruitment agents for a job at the company where I was currently working. They just couldn't be bothered to check my profile on Linkedin, they relied on an old CV I had sent them 2, 3, 5 years before.
Dysfunctional people and their enablers create bad work environments.
Work hard, play hard is code for: work hard for us so we can then MAKE you engage in the forced fun WE decide that you can have (on YOUR time, of course)...not actually giving you the free time to plan your own fun of your choice, with your own family and friends.
Speak those big facts!
As someone who took a career break and took my time in finding a new job, here are my observations about red flags I saw in my journey across 50+ interviews these past 8 months.
1. On a Zoom or MS teams interview chat, not everyone in the panel shows their face on screen. In a panel of 5 people sometimes, only one person, the moderator showed their face. That says a lot about the culture as it reveals to me an 'unwelcoming spirit'.
2. Terrible and delayed communication to important questions. It took one company a week to answer critical questions for a high exec job. The person had no time to answer which reveals even more about what someone would be coming into. It was a hold-the-bag type job.
3. Giving you 2-3 days to accept a job offer instead of the traditional 7-10 days. Can't believe this happened.
4. When going to an in-person interview, hiring managers showing up like they'd come out straight out of the dyer and haven't shaved in days. I took the time to wear a three piece suit, and this is how I was received at the facility?
5. While at an interview, the hiring manager was being reprimanded by a client and telling me about it in a joking like manner. Also mentioning there were a few people who quit recently.
6. Canceling an interview 2 minutes before going live from news they'd received much earlier in the day for them to cancel.
7. 85% of interviewers did not respond back with a decision or courtesy email/call that I wasn't accepted. I really appreciated when they did and took no hard feelings. What is so hard about communicating this?
I recently had a virtual interview anf the fact that none of the managers I would be working for/with switched on their cameras really threw me off. I thought maybe I was being super sensitive. Also the psychometric tests I took later seemed centred on whether I could survive really toxic situations which threw me off completely.
I really need to leave my current employer but don't wanna jump from the frying pan into the fire. I don't know what to do 😕
I can verify points 1, 4 & 7.
1. I don't appreciate the expectation that I need my camera on, but they don't. I legitimately want to be able to recognize them if I showed up to work with them.
4. I wore a three piece suit. Manager wore a tie-die t-shirt. His direct reports wore collared shirts.
7. I agree. This is not difficult, but so helpful.
@@This_Account I recently had an interview with a CEO in a Hoodie...
I believe, their lack of communicating, is not professional, leading me to think, what other things do they do, where they are not professional? What more would I find out about them, in the event, I was hired? If they don't have the skills to communicate, what other skills are they lacking.
@@JIKitty mark Zuckerberg wears a hoodie - did you interview at meta?
I literally just turned a job down because their language was inconsistent about the types of work. One minute they said permanent next thing they said contract.
Good move, that is very weird. Your employment status should not be spread by word of mouth
You dodged a major bullet. I fell for a bait and switch offer with the job type varying from FT to Casual which was supposed to become FT. It didn't, I was lied to, and I left.
Never let the job that you hate make you quit the work that you love.
I hate my job so much and my boss is a bitch. I feel so trapped because I don’t have any other skills to pivot into another career field
Unfortunately, that’s what happened to me. I quit registered nursing completely but there’s no fix. Thousands have quit or left Canada because of the same issues in the USA but we made on average 10k/year less than employment in the USA. Now the government is scrambling for foreign trained doctors and nurses.
Great point! I had to take some time off to reenergize and recharge to get my passion back for the work I love and I’m good at. Last company drained me. But I’m excited to start a new job soon after sabbatical of about a year. 😅 Just got a new job offer and I’m in a process of getting a second job offer.
Problem is 4 out of 5 employers/jobs suck. And usually u don’t know until u get there. 🤷♂️
@@donabeth4561 that sounds like it will work out well lol
In 2014, I was laid off from a job I had for 12 years. At the time, I was 61 years old didn’t know where I could another job. I ended up working in a call center from 2-9 PM 6 days a week. It was the worst job I ever had. I ended up getting laid off after months. Luckily, I got another job in the industry I was previously in (not a call center) within 3 weeks of being laid off. I worked there for 4 years until I retired.
You are 10000% correct. I accepted a customer service role, even though it wasn’t the role I wanted, being told that I would move up within a year. 5 YEARS later I never received a promotion even after being told several times I was one of the best performers in the department. I finally quit, I will never take a job that doesn’t suit my career goals again!
I learned that lesson too!! I didn't last 6 months.. lol😅😅
Feel that. I was working in a gym that claimed to give me a personal trainer role after 3 months of working as the janitor. I'm a qualified personal trainer with certifications and years of prior experience, but I felt like it made no sense and it didn't pertain to any relevant progress. 3 months pass and I see new personal trainers coming in to teach classes while I'm still stuck there sweeping dust. Immediately gave my 2 weeks notice, and even then the manager told me to stay an extra week. They really had no shame.
@@inplane9970 man I know how that feels. I was hired as a line cook at my current job. The guy who hired me was the chefs son, they are a family owned business. He said “you’re at that age to learn” and it seemed like they were gonna show me how to cook. Turns out that was not gonna happen. I got thrown into the dishpit because from what I can tell nobody there had the patience to train me, and they said “most cooks start as dishwashers and move up.” No, not if they work for you boss. I’m 10 months into this job and I’m ready to finally move on to do more responsibilities. Its sad, cause I like these guys but It’s times like this where you gotta leave your emotions out and make the right decisions
If on day 1, you find that no one has scheduled your training and they are scrambling to figure out what you should be doing on your first day…..walk away! I see this at my company all the time, and wish I could pull them aside and them that this is a sign at how disorganized this location is. Trust your gut.
Ps. The company, at the location I work at, is very good at creating the illusion that people are happy and that it’s not toxic. When it’s the main boss itself that is the most toxic, they are frighteningly overly happy and friendly when trying to attract new hires.
10. the only reason you were interested in the first place was the money. But the hours, commute, boss and work sucks.
This here
oh god yes..
Yep the ol' $100k per year, 100 hours per week gig.
Unless you own the company, you are never in control of your job
I went for a job interview many years ago and when I got there the salary was way below what I was currently earning. I told them this and left. As I left they shouted at me, in front of the entire office, telling me how greedy I was! At another interview, where I was kept waiting for an hour, despite the boss knowing I was there, he asked me whether I was able to pay my bills. I thought it was a strange question but I told him I managed. He then told me that a previous secretary had stolen client money. I told him the interview terminated there and walked out. I was not prepared to be called dishonest by a complete stranger.
ur a drama queen
I would have left too..
I had a healthcare company quoted in writing on their hourly pay scale. Then, after two weeks, I received my check and was $5.00 hour short. When confronting the owner, she said
“ Yeah, but, we can’t pay that much as was quoted. So, that’s what is”
Wtfff
I was chased down the hallway by an interviewer after I walked out. Good times 🤣
I'm so grateful for your channel! I wish I had this information when I was younger. Growing up, my Dad always told me to take any job I was ever offered, b/c "good work will lead to better work" and that "good work is always rewarded" and that there was "no such thing as a bad job". I found myself early in my career low balling myself and getting screwed by many of the jobs I had b/c I did not due my due diligence in asking the right questions and looking for these red flags.
This is a common mindset of boomers and gen xers, my parents are both and they say the same thing, I wish they knew their worth when they were younger.
My parents are the same way. I had so many red flags in previous interviews and when I tell them about it, they look at me like I’m crazy, encouraging me to move forward with the company anyway. 🙄🙄🙄
Your dad came from an era when most people were ethical unlike today.
@@jjroo I heard that from old ppl too.
My parents didn't say it to me they just encouraged me always to start my own busyness because they did or go work for them.
Working for parents is a nightmare, you can't tell them screw you I'm going, because you still have to see them at Christmas.
They meant well and in their time loyalty was reciprocated. Then in later generations that is not always the case. As mentioned in the video, we have to look out for ourselves. I struggle with that myself, having felt too loyal to past employers. I love this channel too! Best wishes.
I left a work hard, play hard company. It meant that they expected people to head to the bar across the street at 5pm for 4-5 drinks rather than going home.
Most employers are not going to say "This is a bad company to work here, don't take the job." so it's on you the candidate to do your diligence.
True, even though we want to tell new employees to get out while they can, the managers watch us like a hawk to make sure we don’t say anything bad about the company to the new person. One person got caught warning a new hire and got written up for it.
A long time ago (I won't say how long because it is depressing) when I was in a different industry, I was very frustrated with my position. I began to interview and had a very successsful interview in the same role with a competitor. I thought things went and soon after, the hiring manager called and offered me a position. I was interested but realized we had never discussed salary. I stated "Thank you for the offer. I hate to ask, but we have never actually discussed compensation. What were you thinking?" The response was "Well I am not going to tell you that until I know you are interested." I had to pass on that. All of us want a good and fullfilling job. Money is always an important aspect and the primary reason we are there. Having it dealt with as an afterthought was a turn off.
Yikes, talk about dodging a bullet! Also, where the hell do they get off thinking it's ever acceptable to not discuss the pay *before* hiring someone?! That's the kind of situation that would make me create accounts with other social media sites, of which I've avoided, specifically just to put that company on blast and warn others!
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Well this would have happened before such things as Social Media sites and ghost accounts existed. I appreciate the enthusiasm though!
WOW! They gave you an "offer" but did not state the salary? That's a new one. What did he mean by "interested" - he wanted you to quit your current job and commit without even knowing what you would be paid? My response would have been: "What is YOUR interest in not telling me now what I will be paid?"
@@Seattle-2017 I took the more proactive approach of just declining. I guess I could have accepted and when I found the offer to be unsatisfactory, just declined after but the whole thing put me off. It was no longer a place I wanted to work and I was not in dire need of a job.
Sometimes I wonder what is inside of these people's head.
Ok you may pull this time off lowballing someone, but the victory is short lived anyway.
How many months when your victims realized they are being lowballed and leave?
"we have a foosball table" enough said lol. And having worked at two companies with a foosball table, I can independently confirm that it's a bad sign.
The foosball table mostly comes with a company with 2 "CEO'S" in mid 30s who are named Kevin and Ben, and like to talk about growth at every opportunity they get.
Right? Who cares about foosball! Pay me well, treat me well not offer “benefits” that won’t enrich my life in a meaningful way.
"Work hard play hard"
Better that they have a claw machine with bonus checks in plastic eggs that you need to catch and drop into the escape chute. If you work your butt off, you get a token for one play a quarter. Of course, claw machines are not games of skill--they're rigged, just like slot machines.
Edit: Apologies. I've just given some corporate AH an evil idea.
What's wrong with having a foosball table? Isn't it better than not having one? I once interviewed at a place that had a nap pod, is that bad too?
I have found that jobs that require multiple interviews and tests with endless hoops to jump through seem to be ones that turn out to be for companies totally disorganised to the extent of being shambolic. The best job I ever got had a very relaxed interview with one person. We started going through the job and my CV and then rapidly went off script. We talked about physics, classical and quantum. Then it was computing, weather (causes, and risks), hobbies etc. I was offered the job, took it and found the place had huge respect for their employees who returned this with loyalty. My interviewer was looking for a candidate who could converse on a range of subjects, recognise and address complexities and suggest a range of possible solutions for problems which probably could not even be solved. They wanted someone with a little experience in a wide area rather than a lot in a very narrow set of skills. A great place to work.
I just went through two interviews with one company. I Have another round to complete. The hr contact didn’t respond to scheduling the third interview with her, so I’ve now been going through an entire interview process for 3WEEKS! And I still don’t know where I am amongst the other candidates, in which I was told my interviews would be put on hold until the other candidates were available to complete their interview. This process is bullsh!t.
Which company was this? Sounds like an interesting company to work for.
If the hiring manager does not invite staff that you will be working with is a bad sign.
Not really, depends on the job.
I was offered a job out of state. The company flew me in paid for my hotel rental car and airfare. We discussed salary before I agreed to come see the place. The interview went well but at the end they changed the salary that we both agreed upon prior to me visiting. I made it perfectly clear what I wanted. I was really taken back on how they tried to low ball me after the fact.
I had an interview with a state job and walked into an interview with 6 people at a table which I thought was excessive for the position. I was quickly thrown questions which did not pertain to the job. I politely informed all 6 that the job that was posted was clearly not the one I was being interviewed for. I politely got up and left. Thanks but no thanks
Wow, gutsy! I love it.
I thought this type of interview experience was the exception but clearly I was wrong. I can't understand a panel interview with all the department heads present asking management solution questions for an entry level low paying position. This has happened to me several times.
Let me guess. These questions--were they political and/or ideological in nature?
@@natthebratster absolutely! Clearly shows insecurity. This has happened to me too.
I spent about 5 years at a company that will go nameless. About 10 years later, I applied with another company. Turned out that everyone I interviewed at the new company had worked at the old company for six months or less. I had to justify being at the older company for that long.
Name them. They need to be publically shamed and a warning to people applying.
@@Seattle-2017 That is a good strategy. Build up a portfolio, and interview while you still have a job. You can and pick a choose your next position without feeling that you are under the gun.
That’s ridiculous. You aren’t the CEO of said other company. Why should you have to justify it?
Because everyone else in the room had worked for that company for less than three months. They were well known as a terrible place to work.
Because if you were there for 10 years then you accepted the culture that the rest could not stand for 6 months and you may bring that culture to the new job. How many times have you heard new hires say “At my last job we did it THIS way” and then implement the same procedure at the new job simply because they were used to it and didn’t want to learn something new? How does that usually turn out?
I notice that the lower the salary a company offers you the worse it is to work for that company. They always seem to treat you bad because they know you as the employee probably doesn't value their time simply because you accepted that low salary
The worst is when they say ...you should be able to work under presure and self motivating....yeah...Run Lola....RUN!
When the interviewer asked illegal questions during the interview. Topics that are considered illegal questions are race, religion, citizenship/immigration, gender, disability, health, arrest record (an arrest is not a conviction), military history, marital status, sexual orientation, family planning, current family, living situation, financial status and previous salary.
It's a good point about repeatedly posted jobs, i've been there and it's usually because the direct manager blames the employee for everything that goes wrong, and despite getting through dozens of people, said manager somehow keeps their role.
I left such an employer once and I said the CEO (who I got on with) "A word of advice, it's statistically impossible for you have had THIS many bad people in this role........ maybe it's time for you to look at other factors".
@@vooo1314 That sounds a little bit like holding interviews to pump people for information and ideas....... Had this experience too.
When you’re young, you can fall into the trap of accepting a job that is described as being a management track position with multiple high visibility projects assigned to you. Usually, what the manager wants is to farm out what is on their plate to the new guy, and you won’t get credited for doing the heavy lifting. You get paid as an IT analyst while doing part of the operations manager’s job for them.
One bad job leads to another bad job, and another, and another...... !!!! Preach!!
When they call a couple days later and renege on salary while still giving the green light to hire. The new counteroffer from the company is $8,000 less per year because they claim they can find plenty of people who'd do it for much less. I always tell them, "you get what you pay for." Then I decline their counteroffer, tell them I'm better off elsewhere, and hang up.
Wow that's fking bullchit...
I wished I have saw this red flag before I accepted by current job. I was promised a promotion after a year. A year has passed and I didn't even get a pay increment. HR manual states that promotion can only be considered after 5 years.
@@rejectwokeness1314 Promises literally mean NOTHING. Anything not in writing is worthless - this is true in your job and any aspect of business.
My roommate is a medical assistant & was recently fired from her job at a specialty practice after 2 months. The 2nd day at the new job, the lead ma said with surprise, " Oh you came back!" That should have been a red flag right there. During her interview she had asked why the position was open & she was told the new girl didn't work out. When she was let go, she wasn't told why she was let go.
Jobs being advertised again is a big one.
I was unfortunate enough to get one such job and day 2 on the job the boss revelaled himself to be a steriotypical micro manager.
It's not normal to be over a job and looking to leave on day 2 of your employment.
Been there, in my case id say it was day one.
I talked with a few friends in the industry and
they warned me of the shortcomings and
turnover the company had.
It was worse than expected and after 3 months
i was rescued from them where I am 3 great years
latter.
I was in that position. Agency called " Hey Deborah I have just the job for you" she read out job spec Customer Service - red flag no 1. Location on an industrial Estate Red flag no 2. Ice queen for a Managetess didn't take to her. Office was a throw back to 1986. Had to eat my lunch in car. By day 2 was on the phone handing in my notice. Then suddenly got a call last week, my services were no longer needed. Lasted 8 days.
what is micro manager?
@@andresramirez4469 A manager who tries to control every little thing you do.
In the case of my story, I was a Truck Driver, I left base and was heading to my first customer.
I got a phone call less than 5 minutes down the road and I got my ears chewed out because I wasn't taking the route that the manager wanted me to take.
He was in his office, watching the fleet GPS software and seeing where I was going.
It wasn't an isolated incident.
@@delphaneuxlacroix this happened to me when I was working on pools. I got a bad feeling about the guy so I took the job saying I'm going to work for you for 2 weeks and decide whether or not I want to stay.
Day one he called me literally four times micromanaging things like putting 6 oz instead of 7 oz of a certain chemical into a 100,000 gallon pool. He would call right as I would leave a property meaning he was following me on the GPS
I've been doing the job for 10 years and I know exactly how to balance my chemicals.
When I told him I needed to leave at 4:00 which at that point would be a full 10-hour day he was dumbfounded and immediately said I needed to come in on Saturday then.
Keep in mind absolutely no overtime was ever discussed in the interview process.
I was so pissed I actually pretended like I was going to go visit my clients the next day but then just went home and quit at the end of the day so those clients didn't get visited and they lost business.
Also one of the co-workers broke a pump system at a client's house and then immediately charged them for it as if it was their fault. I was legitimately tempted to send them a letter telling them what happened and telling him to sue the pool company.
Also the morning of my first day one coworker pulled a gun on another co-worker. I swear to God everything I just said is true.
I was literally like is this real life what in the world is happening here. Granted Im college educated and most people in the industry are very blue collar
Turnover is a red flag. 30%+ of everyone in my profession voluntarily quit statewide in less than one year. Here it's not a question of the individual workplace but rather that the individuals in the profession are completely mismanaged.
Number one question on my list when contacted by a third party recruiter. Funny how it never moves forward.
@@Warsnop No, I'm in Illinois. But 30% of all my colleagues left the profession in 2019 en masse.
Same in the Service Desk support positions. It's like 30-70% every year.
I will say this. The employment scene is just tougher now then it was in the early 80s.
5 years later yes You are absolutely right it backfires especially when you need references from said toxic job 🤔
I would suggest that you use references prior to that last job and maybe just use a coworker for the current one, if possible.
If you see workers sitting on a long desk right next to each other in open plan office, run away. Especially if you are programmers.
Can you explain what this means I don’t understand why that’s a bad thing?
@@river3583 The tech company I worked with used to have individual cubicles with 5' wall partitions. The IT people had all the privacy they need to concentrate on their jobs. Then the company switched to open floor plan, where every one sat on opposite sides of long white desks, no partitions. Some software engineers tried to put up some cardboard to create some sort of privacy, but got taken down by the boss. Eventually some software engineers got so distressed by the distraction and noises they quit.
Those set-ups are horrible for employee efficiency.
I accepted a job position where a year in, I’m literally doing 2/10 things listed from the job description. It is unbelievably boring and has caused me to be super depressed. It’s awful. I’ve also been job searching/interviewing the whole time too and have been disrespected countless times throughout the process (going along with the annoying things employers do during the interview process that you mentioned). I keep pushing forward but it has been the hardest year of my life.
What kind of annoying things have you been doing? I feel like a lot of companies put candidates through a ton of steps that are unnecessary. I mean hiring is a crap shoot anyway….Some people are honest about their qualifications and work hard but then you have those who lie about their experience and are terrible to work with and they end up getting the offer because they “talked” well during the interview.
I feel you
I feel for you and can imagine how that is!!! I am living a same experience at this time, but i quit!!
#1 happened to me, only there was no indication that'd do a bait and switch. The job they game me was completely different from what I interviewed for. It was a disaster, 9 months later they offered me a severance package in exchange for my signature that I wouldn't sue. After that I hired a lawyer to negotiate a more reasonable severance. The ordeal actually ended up at my state's Supreme Court. I never recovered from that professionally.
Would love to even GET a job offer.
Keep watching!
Same
When you are not getting any offers, you are most likely to settle.
The problem is, nearly every place I've worked for claimed to be the best at what they did, claimed to have a good working environment, claimed to value employees as being key to reaching their goals, claimed to reward excellence.
You ask the management questions and OF COURSE they're going tell you what they think you want to hear.
The point is, you won't know whether you've made a mistake or not accepting an offer until they've got you and you walk in the place and see the reality for yourself. That's when the veil is lifted and you see the organisation for what it really is.
Only after that can you control what you do with your career, but I'm willing to bet people are mis-sold their job expectations 90% of the time.
That's why you make sure you negotiate your salary and benefits really well and get paid as much as you can. At least then you can tell yourself you are making a lot of money while staying there for the time being until you find another job. Money and benefits very important. Never fail to negotiate and dont give up negotiating. Make the company pay as much as you can when you negotiate salary and send them a message that you are valuable. Don't fall into their trap of " well there will be plenty of opportunities to move up and make more money" or " we have other candidates who are willing to accept the position at our rate". You have to ask yourself why are they negotiating with me if other candidates would accept their job at a lower salary. It's because you are the most qualified or they really dont have other candidates. Play this to your advantage. Don't get scared and blink. Play hard to get. I have done it and never regretted. Because at the end of day even when I hated my job, I could tell myself I am making the company pay me a shit load of money.
@@tarikh20 You are exactly right in principle, but it's not realistic in a majority of cases and I'm going to explain why.
The problem is, you don't get that sort of leverage until you've built up a solid and proven track record in your career, which doesn't tend to happen until you get into at least your 30's and your resume has proper heavy hitters on it.
When you first start out, you usually have zero leverage, so the first salary you ever negotiate is going to dictate your salary and benefits range for a very long time.
I was also misfed information about sticking to one company and not job hopping being beneficial for your CV - that was bullshit, it's the only way you can see decent movement to your salary when you are young and have no real experience. That was a very costly piece of misadvice to me.
You also need to add that certain job roles or professions have a saturated market, so even if you are good enough to earn x amount, it won't matter if the employer has a pool of literally hundreds of similar candidates all with the same capability to do exactly the sane role, the employer has all the leverage in that situation.
So what tends to happen there is that they will simply choose the candidates that are willing to accept the least and look the most pliable and easier to fob off, or ones they might be able to get something else from if you know what I mean.
Companies should technically choose the best people, but that rarely ever is the case, they try to hide behind value and potential, when really they just want to impress those above them with how much money they've saved them getting x person in, when y could have come in and done a better job, but having to justify their package.
Then you get into cronyism and why most places are dysfunctional when there's plenty of competent people working in said departments, but then we'll be here all day.
At this point, I don't really waste time with recruiters. I will give them my pay expectations and office accommodations and how they respond determines how or whether I do. Recruiters have shown me that they are only out for their own interests, not mine.
10. If the hiring manager backs up from his desk with his rolling office chair, slaps his thigh and calls you "Santas Little Helper".
ummm, what?
@@ALifeAfterLayoff I think he meant those slave elves that work at the North Pole.
Or he might expect you to sit on his lap and portray an elf.
I applied for pump mechanic. Even went to school for it. And the interview went good, they said I’ll be rebuilding pumps and go in the field few times to repair. I said I’ll take it. I did one week of pump, the next few weeks I ended up rebuilding brakes, janitor and secretary work. They said we short handed. I thought it’s ok, im going above and beyond, here comes 90day evaluation. Boss never acknowledged my other work duties and never got a raise. And only built two pumps. Planning on quitting very soon. Hate this place now
I once showed for a interview that was "entry level" I was given a test sheet, I googled a few of the questions as I had no idea what they were, and it was high-level engineer tech stuff...I walked out with everything I wrote my info down on..they listed "no experience needed" on the posting..
I once went for an interview for a secretarial job with a large law firm where I was told that they expected their secretaries to be available 24 hours days seven days a week to come in at short notice. I said no.
I have a question, why do so many entry level jobs require more years of experience anyone would logically have? A large quantity have 5+ years and some are lower or higher. I’d like an explanation of this nonsensical practice
There’s an administrative assistant job in Berkeley asking for 6 years experience, a Bachelor’s degree minimum, but the pay is only $14/hr, these people are insane 😂
@@wildonionchase3934 and you know what the funny thing is the guy without the degree will do the job better
It's exactly as the video said - they want far more value than what they're offering is worth. In other words, they want to make sure you have the shortest end of the stick possible.
Because they're idiots.
It's a facade used to justify a budget. Its to make it look like they are understaffed, but they put the qualifications out of reach for anyone so they can get their funding and not have to hire someone. It is also a crafty way to peel off younger applicants so you can get older, more experienced applicants. "Must have 10 years experience in X" translates to "recent college grads please do not apply"
I had an instance where I got an offer and then in the "fine print" it was declared that I was getting 10% less than what was offered until further notice. Long story short, I ran from the offer.
Yea, we all need to stand together and decline all offers that have red flags. If a company says “Are you willing to work when someone calls in sick.” Is just about the biggest red flag. You should ask back, “why would I need to do that?” Days off are an actual entitlement. You should not need to worry about going to work on your days off. This means they are understaffed and you will be overworked. Your manager will find a way to make it so they don’t have to cover that shift themselves. Let’s just hire more people please.
I had an interview last week and I delcined they offer due to hiring manager behaviour:
I have spend 1,5h talking to him (he would be my manager in that company).
The whole conversation he was depressed, very low energy and he did not have any sign of a positive attitude at all!
From what he said about the team and from his body language he was almost trying to discourage me of taking the job which I found very odd..
Usually hiring managers try to convince candidates by prasing the company/team and listing what's good there. He did not!
Last straw was him highly emphasizeing that if I get hired I musn't leave the company. And he do not want me to: 'work just for a few months and then leave'. Though I said multiple times during the conversation that I am looking for a pernament job..
You know what that means, he has had multiple employees work a few months and then leave for whatever reason probably something very negative about the work environment. A HUGE red flag
Yep... HUGE red flag..
Took a school bus gig and in the inter
Whoa. If a manager can't even perk up for an interview, he is really struggling. Glad you didn't take that job
You are absolutely correct. Since 2021, I’ve been in this….”cycle” of toxic, low quality jobs. Can’t figure out why! These videos really help and so do these comments.
I live in a small town n basically went through every “good job” just factory ones.. I literally cant find anything else to do and don’t know where to move tooo
1. Never trust job description.. its just made to look rosy & tempting.
2. Company reputation: Though many companies are well known their culture is very bad.. reputation can be like company X has 100+ offices worldwide with Y technologies & n number of ppl from various countries..
3.How to know their "unrealistic expectations" before accepting the offer assuming there is no connection in that company(close friends will tell truth).
4. HRs / Managers in a interview never ever divulge how the company is.. So how to understand before walking into landmines.
I feel the mgmt in any company is sweet poison...
SAD Truth to all points! Makes me nauseous just trying to interview in toxic Corp America. So over the BS at every company.
The bait and switch is absolutely the worst thing in job hunting today. When I was job hunting it would pop up so often, and ruin my day, week, and month.
“Well sadly the managerial position isn’t available anymore. Would you consider an unpaid internship?”
“This is the first interview, we’ve just met, and I drove an hour and a half for this interview, and THIS is how you start?”
Reminds me of something similar. Not exactly a “career”, but I was a barista in NYC and I went to an interview in The Village at a local coffee shop. I did the whole experience test (making drinks, etc. ) and after it was over, the lady wanted to hire me, BUT, the position wasn’t actually at that cafe. It was at a cafe in La Guardia airport, all the way in Queens. I was living in Brooklyn and they wanted people to be there at the crack of dawn! No freaking way! Why didn’t they just say that in the effing ad that the actual job was at the airport, so people wouldn’t waste their time, if the location wasn’t convenient for them?
Oh, I would have to tell them off for that nonsense!
Yep. Interviewed for a job in tax consulting that described exactly what i was looking for. Turns out they don't even provide the services yet, so I will be doing "other" work while they develop the practice.
A difficulty comes, in the interview, when we have questions of the employer/company:
How long was the last person in that position (and other questions) and in the interview they hide behind: "That's confidential" or "we cant discuss that because it violates privacy" and everything you want to find out is either confidential or some violation or "proprietary" info not to be released.
Here are some things iiii would watch-out for:
1. When they are looking for a candidate who will "act with a sense of urgency". RUN. It's a fast & furious atmosphere.
2. We expect our customer service reps to "show empathy". Translation: they expect you to sit there and take it as customers on the phone abuse YOU.
3. Looking for a "fast learner". Translation: they wont train you. Any training you get will "suck", be very poor quality and leaving out alot of what you need to know and be much too short. You will be left to yourself much too quickly to hunt and find the info you need. You wont know WHERE half the things you need are, in the computer.
4, they want someone "aggressive". Translation: ANY customer who doesnt BUY immediately today and who was "just looking"....its your fault!
5. A BIG Red Flag to watch out, for: misleading VAGUEness. Like when you apply for a position in Hospital Patient Admitting. This sounds like a "front lobby" position and you apply for it. It may even say it is. But then you get the interview and then they spring a bait-n-switch on you that: you'll be working swing-shift all the time in the emergency room admitting and will likely be expected to stay there for two years before you can transfer out.The AD you responded to and the job description given said nothing at all about this. What you'll be doing is much less desireable than what they advertised and what you applied for.
6. You seem to have an almost "unlimited" job description. Is there anything that ISN'T your job?? They will put it as "and other duties as may be assigned". If you say anything or stand up for yourself, then your not "flexible". CAN WE know-what-we're-signing-up-for?
7. when they expect all of their employees to do some community service work outside of the office, or volunteerism/"service" beyond your 40 hr work week.
OMG!! I'm in the process now at looking for a job. I can't tell you how many times I've seen #6 listed!!
Ah yes, "other duties as assigned by manager", or as my last job put it "please be aware that this is not an exhaustive list of your responsibilities" LMAO
#6 wins! I just quit a job that I hated and next thing you know there is an opening for that position mentioning exactly that! Adhoc projects as assigned. Run!!!
An interview with two different companies for a clerical position. I asked one interviewer to describe my job duties. He danced around and around, but couldn't give me an adequate answer. I asked another interviewer what I was expected to do and he said "anything I tell you to do" in a brusque tone. Whoa! After the interview, I sent him a note basically saying thank you for the interview, but I've decided that I wouldn't be a good fit for your company. Kinder than what I really wanted to say to him.
I fell into a bait and switch with my last job, but the switch didn't happen until I was out of state at a 2 week training.
I just kept telling myself it will get better. I felt stuck, already left my former job, moved to another state, and signed a 3 year contract.
I ended up leaving after 18 months, and ate the bullet on the contract. Overall, it was the best for me to leave. However, I am still unemployed. COVID19 certainly put a damper on me getting another job.
Taking the job wrecked my life. I just wish I had known what I was told in training back when I interviewed. I went back and read the job posting after I finished training, and they didn't even come close to matching. I was duped.
The glassdoor and indeed reviews were mostly negative. I ignored them. I figured the folks were disgruntled and it couldn't be that bad. It was that bad. Don't discount reviews like I did!
Yes, read those negative reviews. They are always 100% accurate and from the heart. Glassdoor claims to not delete reviews, but I know for a fact they deleted a few of mine. If your business has enough money, they can "convice" glass door to purge negative reviews.
@@MrPGC137 I wouldn't have waited that long. You must be a patient person.
Yes, read the reviews. The reviews are not lying. If shareholders traded based on employee reviews, these companies would all be down the toilet
A huge red falgg is when the process of interviewing and making the offer is feeling weird or off. Offers that come very fast with no reason for that or offers that come late for example. Another obvious one if they ask you to sign something immediatly - that would be a reason to walk away from any job offer no matter what IMO.
Can't forget when they ask questions that are illegal.
I applied for a permanent position and now when they made the job offer, they said it will be a 12 month fixed contract. I am employed already and with permanent contract, so I guess I will politely decline their offer out of respect to myself. I feel cheated because the offer does not match the job posting.
About ten years ago I took a job with a small manufacturing company. There were red flags all over. The interviewer was late for the interview, the office was a mess and the guy didn't seem to know what he was talking about. The owners came into the the interview. I straight out asked them if the company was financially sound. They told me it was. I took the job. I lasted about a month and a half when I found out the owners were drug addicts and the company couldn't not pay their bills. I did get paid what I was owed but I told them before I left that I did not appreciate being lied to. The company last about 3 more months
Try to read their eyes/facial expression when they answer. Most managers/HR would not disclose bad stuff about their Company. If they only say "yes" then most likely that's a lie. If they say "yes of course, we just had another customer sign a big contract with us... etc" then it's more believable.
You are exactly right, especially about the job being posted over and over again. One company told me because their growing so rapidly. No people are quitting left and right
What if its a level entry job for peoole still in uni thta want to get a paid intership? The job is too simple ti be lo g term. Im asking bc of a position I see constantly being posted and people being hired for it. What do you think?
Always remember; The holy grail of corporate America, is to find employees who will work for free, and pay the expenses connected with their job out of pocket.
Not finding that, employers will ALWAYS SEEK to get as much as possible for as little as possible. People always seek to get something for nothing. It's a survival trait that's hardwired into us all. It's instinctual.
But when an employer makes it a business/hiring requirement, it's a major red flag. And when employer deceit in pursuit of this goal is standard operational procedure, there is no remedy for the situation, and it's time to leave. Fast.
I think that accepting an offer that doesn't align with your career goals depends on your situation. I was a recent grad with a degree in EE and was looking for a software engineer position but accepted a job doing customer server for a software company. After learning the product architecture and being flown around the country fixing bugs for a few years, I impressed the development manager and was moving into development. After 5 years with the company, I was a senior engineer and the top dog in my group with tons of relevant industry experience. It helped me to write my ticket to any company and position that I wanted for quite a while and was really the kickoff of my career. So I think it is very situational.
i might know the company, is it in Atlanta?
@@theoneworldshow6661 Nope. Out of curiosity, what in my post gives any indication of the company? I only mentioned a generic software company.
Decline the offer if you are offered the job before participating in a basic interview.
Thank you so much for this video. "One bad job attracts another bad job and so on..." That cannot be more true. It was hard for me to break that pattern, though I did at the end, but I wish I had this information years ago. Great video.
How did you break the pattern for the cycle?
@@GoogleAccount00 A combination of things. One thing that I did was walk away from a bad job a week after I got hired because I knew it was a bad environment. I also asserted myself better in interviews, so I was able to get e feel of the place. Also experience, I learned to "read" the place and people during the interview. I changed my attitude. I thought that the interview process was an elegant way of me begging for them to like me, which is ridiculous. Things like that.
@Brianna Jenell your story reminds me, of someone I know. He's worked for a company the last 12 years. About 9 months ago, a different manager stepped in, while the other moved out of State. The manager, her boss and his boss, are all friend's, friend's who come with the same attitude. The manager will say, " my boss told me to do this and that, I only follow his orders" they are a bad group of people all connected and with plans of their own, involved with shady unprofessional tactics. HR has joined in their game. I have seen my friends personality change, stress is written all over his face and his co- worker's to. Their demeanor is so sad to see and watch. 2 lost souls, from the harassment, belittling, interrogating, etc, it's maddening to know, Nothing is done on their behalf, instead the bad behaviors, lying, gaslighting and so forth, seems to be a trend , they have no plans in stopping. I feel furious with this company, how they treat those who have morals so wrong.
Another thing sot look out for is the phrase at the end of the job requirements that states "and other duties as assigned" If they won't identify those duties and list them on the job description tell them to pound sand. Otherwise you will be expected to be a doctor one week, a lawyer the following week, a firefighter the next, and then a helicopter pilot after that. Also, look out for job descriptions that seem to fit your skillset, but then have "Must know 5 different programming languages" at the bottom. They are looking for a cheap solution for a software developer. Look for "shift work". If you are ok with shift work then great, if not, then expect to have to cover off shifts on holidays or cover someone's rotation for graveyard because of "family issues". Also, when you do land a job, don't pull your resume. Keep entertaining offers and keep yourself available to recruiters. What might seem like an ideal position will turn into the equivalent of a sweatshop and if you do not produce you will be fired anyway. You might get an aggressive manager with a "My way or the highway" attitude. Be willing to quit without notice and cross them off as a reference. Do not put them on your linked in profile.
As an additional perspective, crazy as it sounds, you might want to decline a job if the pay seems too high. My first job out of school, I was offered a salary
about 30% above market rate, and I quickly discovered where those additional funds were coming from. The company was committing health care insurance fraud routinely and shamelessly. Made it all of six weeks. Too good to be true!
Sort of like Tom Cruise in "The Firm".
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Damn 🤔
If it’s well above the market rate, I would like to add that it’s possible that the company cannot attract normal talents as they treat employees badly and they need to attract employees by $$$ signs only. They may have exceptionally high turnover as they treat employees terribly and only way to retain employees is paying way way above the market value. Of course those jobs won’t be fun and you may get nervous breakdowns or health issues due to extreme stress/fatigue.
And just like that I realized every single job I’ve had over the last decade was a bait and switch scenario. On the bright side I did learn how not to run a business and with some research, proper savings and constant growth in knowledge I have stopped working for others and started working for myself. It’s scary and unclear where this new path will lead but it beats working a 9-5 that I know I would grow to hate within 6 months. Thanks man for your wise words and insight!
smart move....i have a few rental properties that basically support me but i still work a 9-5 ....that money gets banked to buy another investment property...im slowly trying to get myself off paychecks....i even took a job that paid less..sounds crazy but with the right money management you can be 100% self sufficient.....paychecks are like a drug everyone gets addicted to...always need it and want more..not always a good thing.
I once went to a job interview with an employer about an hour's drive away from me (1-way). We had previously done a telephone interview, and now was the in-person. Everything with interviews went well. Later, they call me up and tell me that due to my lack of experience (at that time), they went with someone else. Not *_once_* did they bring that up. I felt like I completely wasted my gas, time and energy.
I went through a 3 month long interview process to end with this result lol. They will never tell you. It means you actually were a true candidate but someone with more experience stepped in at some point, or someone with connections. Life ain’t fair. Employees don’t give a rats ass about your time, especially not before you work for them.
I feel you. This just happened to me yesterday. I was invited to an in-person interview, 45 minutes away. I arrived just to be put on a laptop to interview. I could’ve did that at home! Anyway, the interviewer was very rude and seemed not pleased that I didn’t have sales experience. But I’m like well, why am I here if im not qualified? My resume never had anything sales related on it. She basically tried pushing me away from the job😂😂😂 instead of being str8 up and telling me she doesn’t think I’m a good fit. Wasted time and gas
I once completed 2 of 3 interviews with a new company in town. I had the skills/experience they wanted but I didn't know what I was worth. After interview # 2, they called a current employee in another state and leveraged me being willing to work for less to get that person to relocate to their new location in order to keep his job. Before my 3rd interview happened, I received a sorry you're not it letter from them. I found this out a short time after that. Still not used to swimming with sharks.
@@MainelyLove God, that is just downright awful. What a terrible company. It's insane how employers think they can treat employees, but you are only treated how you allow them to treat you. I hope that person ultimately found a better company to work for.
I dread working in a toxic environment. It’s always a weary feeling when you don’t know what awaits you when you actually start the job
What if your "career goal" isn't clearly defined and you're in your 40s; as in you are the sort of person who works really hard but just doesn't really feel the need to "love" my work.
I am the SAME exact way!
@@enmodelife Sadly I see this as maybe the most common situation but it is one that is rarely discussed by "professionals." My career goal is to make money enough to live a moderately comfortable life and not be bothered at work. Retirement isn't on the table for me so likely I will die while still needing a 9-5 job.
My job is a paycheck. It is not my identity. It is not who or what I am. I am more than a job or a career.
@@monabiehl6213 Yes, I have a life outside of work and work is not my life! I need enough money to pay bills. I have no interest in working myself to death and “moving up” in a company. Why are we not allowed to just exist and stay where we are happy?
@@Maki-00 you are very much allowed to do that. Trust me. There are companies who will gladly keep you in the same role for 40 years with minimal increases once a year.
You forgot another one, when the offer has been online for a long period of time. Based on my experience, sometimes this is not related to salary expectations, and it is because one of the managers, may be too picky?
or doesn't update the job posting... or re-posts the job posting (related to high turnover)
On linkedIn i have seen some jobs that were posted a month or two ago sometimes even 7 months ago!!
Grabbed the first job I got after 6 months of searching due to pandemic. Really low pay in a traineeship contract but doing full time staff work. 60+ hour work week and a micromanaging boss. Very little gratitude and always getting reprimanded for things that I have no control over. I had to quit after a while but got stuck with a 2 months notice where they weren't replacing me so they got me to finish every single thing before I left. Squeezing me for every penny's worth.
I completely agree with you! I used to take whatever jobs available to me to fix some short-term issues. However, it does end up very well....
It also depends on the labor market. Now you are at an advantage, but for most of the economic cycle you aren't. If you don't have a job and have bills to pay urgently you actually have no choice but to accept whatever is on the table, at times even if it humiliates you. Such is real life at times.
One of my first jobs after college I wish I asked more questions and paid a little more attention. Because it was definitely #1. The ad made it sound like the position was a graphic design job and even asked for experience in Photoshop, however I was basically the owner's gopher having to anything he wanted me to do at the time like clean, water his plants and get his dry cleaning. It made things worse that he was a complete asshole and constantly complain that I wasn't working fast enough, or that I took too long when I went out to get office supplies. I wanted to quit after the first week, but I was young and made the mistake of taking my parents advice. They kept telling me I was just paying my dues and insisted I don't quit until I find another job.
That just reminded me of Mrs. X from The Nanny Diaries.
Or the Devil Wears Prada - Miranda Priestly.
yea, my folks have given me bad job advice too, it took _way too many_ discussions about not being desperate for work and taking a temporary job to prove that i was willing to work for them to realize that the problem isn't me...
for my folks, the trouble was that they haven't been job seeking in decades, and don't know how much the market has changed
"Paying your dues" is such a bullshit statement to justify piss poor behavior from the employer. You're paying your dues with your time and labor. You don't owe them a damn thing beyond that.
Yep my parents say the same thing. “Back in the day”, they “had no choice” and had to deal with some horrific things. That’s valid BUT doesn’t mean we as a new generation have to go thru the same thing.
I was a nationwide corporate recruiter for years..my recommendation research the company..pay close attention to employee reviews..very important..if there are 1 or 2 bad reviews that's normal..but if there are several bad reviews...u may wanna decline..don't be afraid to reach out to someone that may have worked there previously if u can also he is spot on..with job postings..there is something really wrong with the same job being listed time and time again..trust ur gut when u go to the interview..
Your intro about "why you're in this situation" really resonated with me, and it ties in to your point about "job isn't aligned to career goal". That has been me to a tee my whole 'career'. I've never done a job that met my needs, never did one (that was paid anyway) that is aligned with my career goals, and I'm nearly 30 years old. I've always had to take the job that gave me an offer, because there's not many decent jobs where I live, so an offer has been extremely rare. Never made enough money to move either. I was always a secretary, and no one hires a secretary out of state. But with more companies offering remote work, it's opened up more options for me and I've at least had more interviews than ever. I was able to use my unemployed time to learn skills and build knowledge for the career path I want (and actually put my Bachelor's degree to use) and videos like yours have been very helpful and inspiring.
I’m glad one of your videos appeared on my recommendations. I’ve watched all of your videos learned so much from it.
Appreciate the support!
I walked up to the door of the manager's office for an interview several years ago. The door was wide open, but he had his back to the door talking on the phone. He did not know I was standing outside his door. I don't who was on the other end of the phone conversation, but it was very heated. Every other word out of his mouth was mother f 'r and GD and F this and F that. I had been out of work for a few weeks by that time, but I will never need a job that bad. I turned around and walked away, very quietly, but got out of there as fast as I could.
That reminds me of a girl who was interviewing me. She was so nice, walked me around the building, introduced me to the employees. She did all this after getting yelled and cussed out by her manager.
Shit like that always made me wonder how her home life was. I still remember that girl and hope she left that toxic place.
I recently had a virtual interview and the hiring manager spent FORVER talking about his own personal background (which does tie into why the company started in the first place but still). When he finally asks about me and I begin to speak, he leans into the camera and lets out this huge yawn! I was so caught off guard and more distracted than anything. He proceeded to yawn through the rest of the interview and made me feel so insecure lol
Wow. That is a big MF red 🚩.
I was being interviewed at a small table by two women. While one woman was asking me questions, the other woman had her head propped up with one hand while drumming the table with her other hand. I wanted so much to ask her, am I boring you?
Absolutely true about falling behind on salary, at least within the industry. I took a vow of poverty and changed from a software engineer in the defense industry to public higher education. After 5 years I gave up the vow and returned to one of my previous employers. I lucked out, since they knew me well (even though I hadn't worked for them in over a decade.) Fortunately, my old boss was still there and able to get me back onto the right salary track but he had to write memos and get corporate approval for a 50% raise for me from my poverty job. Usually, you won't be so lucky.
Went to a job interview, the hr lady was talking nonstop about the bunch of things I would have to do, after that I asked her what that company offered that would make me want to stay there long term and she said "we have the same values and principles as you and think outside the box" , how the heck did she knew we had the same values and principles? We had just met each other, that's a no for me dawg, crap for crap I'll iust stay at my current job lol
I fell for #1 and then rolled into #2. Bringing back old wounds, 2020 presented some serious challenges so I had to take the 1st job offer that at least met my salary demands knowing that I wasn't going to be happy there. Still, a paycheck is a paycheck. At the same time, it was a total bait and switch role. Thankfully I wasn't even there a month for them to take advantage of my skill set...Counting my blessings