There's an extra cracked pot in Bonny Village across the broken bridge, in another burned structure and at the back of a hill. 2 more Greater Potentates (Butchers) roam and YES they can jump on top of that elongated building. There's also an emote on a tree even father back and something very interesting to the left of that secluded in the foliage. So there might be 10 hefty pots or more in the game. I'm going very slow like I did in he base game
Great video. Just curious if you're not a native English speaker? Just because of a couple pronunciations. Also when you listed the ingredients for the heavy fire pot, you said "one ingredient you'll need if the fire fly. Another ingredient you'll need is the mushroom. " it just kinda bothered me grammatically, like nails on a chalk board
For everyone who doesn't know this already: The "hefty furnace pot" is NOT a limited item, you're able to craft this one in an unlimited amount because you can actually farm the needed furnace visages. Use the very first grace you find in Mesmers castle. Not Rellana's but Mesmer's castle. Take the elevator down to the main entrance. Leave the castle and right as you pass the gate you take a sharp left. There a some remains of already destroyed Furnance Golems. Around said remains you'll find a small squad of soldiers searching the area. If you kill them, there's a chance to achieve a rare drop and this rare item is the much needed furnance visage. Before you ask: No, you can't farm this item anywhere else. It has to be this exact spot, because no soldier in the entire DLC map will drop this no matter how often you kill him.
14:51 Guys I summoned my mimic before getting up here. He teleported to me and started using the furnace pots. So you can actually save some of your pots.
@@therealfriday13thThey are to the right of SE of the shadow keep main gate entrance. Farm the lesser soldiers for furnace visages. The drop rate is good.
In Belurat Goal I actually found 3 hefty pots!!! There’s 2 in that room you mention here and one more in a chest when you fall down that center hole from hanging pot to hanging pot. Descend slowly cuz it’s easy to miss but if you do miss simply start at the beginning of the cave cave again 👍
That's why it's worth every cent. There's more content in this DLC than most AAA games that have been in development for upwards of 4 to 5 years. Of course they had a great foundation to work with the base game heading into the dlc, but they still went above and beyond to bring that much more content for completely new builds to make the replay value even higher
I equipped the pots and called my mimic after getting in position once I woke the golem up, then it did it for me. Apparently the mimic will do it for you without you having to use your pots, as long as you already have some made and equipped.
@melone66 Mimic tear "uses" any items you have equipped on your character without draining your own inventory. But they are limited to the actual number of pots equipped
You can just buy mushrooms if you find the mushroom bell bearing. Much easier to buy them than to farm. For the Ember of Messmer there's one on the road direct west (left on the map) of the Moorn Ruins grace. Don't know if it's closer, but it's right there and you don't have to run around obstacles or inside a tent. Just run to the road, grab it and run back in a straight shot.
@@PhillyBeatzGames there's 2 I found so far. One is on the way to cerulean coast. Past the river grace you get halfway through the river. Going down, you'll see a stone pillar/bridge on its side. Jump on it and look at the waterfall. You'll see a pot hanging there. Shoot it with an arrow (or use a shakle which also works on the stones blocking the spirit spring jumps) and get the item that drops. The other one is the opposite way down the river (the same way you get the 2 headed turtle talisman). If you go left before where the crabs are and keep going until you reach the cliff edge it's right there, hanging on a wall. Just look around and you should see it. There's also one that gives you string now. It's around Prospect Town. I suspect there are more, but those are the only 3 I found.
The golem from 8:54 can be easily taken down from the bridge. When it starts to attack you, move back to the last site of grace and wait eventually he will fall to his death.
@@ayyfrieza2783 maybe 5 min? Because after I got back from the bridge I started to look around for item and suddenly I got some physic upgrades and runes.
I was on a call with family that took like an hour. While on the call, I was half paying attention to fire bro and the whole time I just sat back and watched him cast over and over. Fire bro would kneel and never reach me with his shot. I even steered him back and forth across the edge of the little waterfall and he didn't ever fall. Maybe you got lucky and he decided randomly to take that extra step ( off ). Then off the call I got the boss down in like 5mins with the strat in the video.
1:19 for the mushrooms you can actually get a hidden bell bearing inside a breakable pot left of the river mouth cave or at the end of the river. You can get unlimited red flesh mushrooms if you find it.
3:43 north of the Moorth Highway, south sight of grace. There are 6 that can be found in the ashes. Only down side is that you’ll have to kill or avoid the undead dragon
Thanks for the video. I think it is easier to use Dragon Ancient Lightning strike to stagger it until it fells and you do a critical hit, two times and it is gone. Can be pure faith, 60 is enough.
There are a bunch of Ember of Messmer down the road from your spot. From the Moorth Ruins site of grace, head south on the closest path there is one right away. Head south to the small encampment by the dragon that the soldiers are fighting. There are 6 in the camp, plus one on the path and the one that you showed makes 8 per run.
Ember of Messmer farm - Where the soldiers are fighting the ghost flame dragon south of Moorth Ruins. Obviously better if you've killed the dragon, but it's possible to ride in there, grab a bunch and ride out. FYI, once you've beaten the dragon, the soldiers do not spawn there again. Furnace Visage farm - kill the soldiers in the camp where you found the Furnace Keeper's Note. They drop them. The drop rate is low but it's better than nothing.
I feel like Moorth ruins has a better ember grinding spot! Just near the site of grace there is a mounted black knight patrolling. Along the road he’s on there can be found like two or three embers so if you sprint by on torrent and back to the site you should be able to grab them without much fear of the black knight
Glad to see that you can deal with these golems in an easier and more efficient way that still requires effort but is actually more fun than trying to fight these things "normally". What's more resources to make the pots aren't a problem to find. For the better pots you can get easy 3 or something furnace visages if you bring the Grandma scorpion soup(the one in the Belurat village) to the Hornsent follower of Miquela(dude with bandages on his head). He will give you several visages as thanks. To unlock the soup you need to speak with Grandma while wearing the Dancing Lion head. Do it multiple times until she gives you the soup. You can get another soup if you use it/give away from her as well. As long as she lives you can get them.
More efficient? Obviously none of the golems went ultra instant the second you pressed throw and obviously you didn’t have to learn there only x amount of furnace visages locking you out of whatever rewards the golem holds
@@Dngotem Well I waited with any ng+ for the DLC so I'm not going to face that problem but yeah, dmg scaling seems to be borked if even 8 pots is not enough. Better wait for a patch before blowing through all the pots.
if you go to Rivermouth cave and go a little past it to the right you will see a pot you can shoot down. it with give you a Bell Bearing you can use to buy as much redflesh mushroon as you want
if you really want to trivialize these things just use the spiral glintsone spell, it completely cripples them and is spammable, alternatively you can also use pest threads/spears. if youre throwing pots just use the furnace pots as they basically take 1/3 of their health.
Bro! Thanks for this post. Im running a mage this play through and went to get shard spiral and it shreds these furnace golems! It staggered twice. Fell in a spot that I couldn't get a crititcal hit but when he stood up he had next to no health. 10/10
The furnace visage item is actually farmable, although the drop is extremely rare. I'm the same place you get that Furnace Keeper's note, the common soldiers that spawn there can drop it. There are 6 soldiers - I usually got 1 drop every run with high discovery. I had 60+ is less than 30 min.
For anyone running intelligence builds, Shard Spiral that you can purchase from Sorceress Sellen in the base game at the end of her quest line breaks their stance pretty easily with multiple casts.
1:26 I've farmed this spot extensively and the Pyreflies DON'T reset unless you die. Tip: From the Castle Front Grace, head northwest and circle the camp counter-clockwise, walking off the edge after collecting the last Pyreflies. The loop allows you to collect 9 Pyreflies and 3 Redflesh Mushrooms before retrieving your runes and dying to reset.
I had to struggle with the first ones, especially the one at charos hidden grave site, he set the hill aflame before I could throw even one pot..than I learned to fight them, and was no longer a problem..the 2 armored I threw hefty furnace in and they died within ( maybe was 2 but not wanting to fail I threw another for an overkill).. if you struggle with it, try to excercise with the cheaper fire pots first.. when you are comfortable with the situation, use the furnace ones… the other where you slash, just take time , let him do his attacks, jump over them, repeat
@PhillyBeatzGames I found out for the first Furnace Golem 7:38, you can goad it into approaching the cliff just SW of the "Pillar Path Waypoint" Site of Grace. I used a great bow with the Arrow's Reach Talisman and Shabriri's Woe to get it over to the cliff, then swapped to the Companion Jar, Fire Scorpion Charm, and Ritual Sword Talisman when I was ready to start chucking Hefty Fire Pots
14:00 You can actually kill it from here if you are fast enough. For me, it took 3 furnace pots, 1 to activate it, and another 2 to kill it. Idk if the first one damages it, but it only took 3 for me. Might be different for you, as it might’ve been a glitch.
9:20 Tip: Turn right and use Margit/Mohg's Shackle to activate Spirit Spring. It allows you to get above the Furnace Golem without having to go all the way to the top.😉
I was able to bait the Furnace Golem from a valley ledge with arrows and when he got close enough tossed in the pots...the hard part was getting to the ledge since it accessible from one of the later areas.
You can get 3 furnace visages from hornsent if you bring him a scorpion stew from the old lady in belurat, though you do have to do this before miquella's seal breaks.
There's 2 more hefty cracked pots, one is by the church on top of the entrance into the dlc and another is on the cliffs jumping down the mountain before the fire guy into cerulean coast, they are both hanging from a rope, you just have to shoot them down with a bow
Amazing guide bro. Thanks for making me not suck at taking these things down in NG+7 , it takes 3furnace pits to take them down lol, wont even bother with the hefty ones :))
@@Blazingsouls420I’ve never used pots but I thought after they broke, you’d get them back after resting at a grace and you’d just have to use the other ingredients to remake whatever pot you want.
Its actually possible to farm furnace visages. East of the Main shadow keep Gate there will be a dead furnace golem and Messmer soldiers.these drop furnace visages
spot for the Embers uhh, cant think of the grace off the top of my head but its the grace that has the 3 Black Knights around a camp and another ruin. Oh! Where you fight the first duel with the Martial Arts Master dude too! There are... 2 or 3 (again I dont remember for sure) along the road one of the Black Knights patrols
For easier Embers of Mesmer, spawn at the Moorth Ruins grace. Then get onto the road and ride it north. You will find about 6 Embers just on this road if you ride till the northernmost campsite gate and back.
There’s a farm spot for Furnace visage & ember of Messmer at the “shadow keep main gate” grace. Use life down, go to the left outside the castle, you’ll see both items every time
If you run out of the furnace visage go to the shadow keep main entrance. Before you head up the stairs go to the right. There are soldiers near the dead furnace that drops them. Get your silver tear mask, and silver scarf and silver pickled fowl foot ready if your arcane is low.
If you follow the path that leads to Shadowkeep from Moore site of grace, you get a lot of embers on the sides of the road and also on your way to the nearby church, where you find the Kindred npc
13:25 If you do the cheese to use Torrent to jump over back wall to get Sword of Darkness you get locked out from activating Golem. I guess dropping down inside makes game think you already activated it. My pots won’t wake it up. Just FYI.
The soldiers on the right side of the black keep front door, the ones guarding the broken golems, carries furnace visage on them. They can be farmed over and over for it. I get about 4 per round.
Messmer Embers also near Moorth Ruins, lying around across the gracen there is a small encampent with Black Knight riders nearby. Couple of embers around 3 or 4. Ez farm hop on torrent and spam collect, rinse and repeat.
I'm sure someone has mentioned but there is a 2nd Hefty Cracked Pot in Belirat Gaol. Same area (pot maze) but much deeper into it and well hidden (but still on top of some pots).
Furnace golems were a paun until i figured out a method of fighting them: borderline heavy roll armor defensive talasmans and physic and focus 95% on when the stomps are coming while mashing heavy attack. Youll get it eventually and it cant hurt you much in return! As expected i havent started on the armored ones yet lol.
@@umarthdc its... actually easier to just use the defensive physic and some talasmins. The fire stomps dont hurt much if you mistime the leap. You still want to dodge but this way you can focus on actually fighting instead of making sure you pull out torrent. The golems will die VERY quickly after so you dont have to worry about much. The double stomp is still real dangerous though.
Farming location for furnace visages, and an ember of mesmer: to the right of shadow keep main entrance. 5-6 bandits moderate chance to drop (they’re by a decayed furnace golem)
On the west side of the moorth ruin site of grace there is a black knight on horse riding north, let it pass and there are 3 embers of messmer that you can farm.
For Ember of Mesmer just go to Moorth Highway South to the ruined camp where you fight the dragon, the place is empty after the fight, use Torrent, there are 4 embers there easy and quick to grab, better that one by one.
The throwing pots one are so frustrating, i finally have a build strong enough to take down the ones u can get on feet but the throwing ones are terrible to deal with
Not sure if it's better but I farm the messemer things outside the "shadow keep main gate" sight of grace, If the walking volcano isn't there, and if it is once you get close to the camp it starts to walk away so you don't even need to deal with it. Plus you get like 6 in one rotation
For the ember of messmer you can farm those pretty quick from the shadowy people at the storage site of grace in the dark hold. They drop every 2nd. Or 3rd mob for me with the silver scarab equipped
Since you asked for a better farming spot, there is a small messmer soldier encampment with 6 respawning embers of messmer near the Moorth ruins site of grace! :)
There are two Hefty Crack Pots in the Belurat Gaol. The one in the maze, and the one in the chest (platforming section going down with many hanging pots)
The first Furnace Golem can be killed from above, just shoot it with arrows from the ledge to the east - then drop pots into him - you may need to get his attention a couple of times if he returns to his area.
Something u didn't mention is that u can farm Visages from the regular soldiers that spawn next to the dead furnace golem in front of the Shadow Keep so u don't have just a limited amount of Hefty Furnace Pots ... may take a while to farm alot but still better than relying on the ones placed in the world
Two things: I think that the location behind castle ensis is a much better location for farming messmer embers (highroads cross site of grace). I also think that streamers should always warn players about going to or in the Shadow Keep, because they may want to preserve the P1 of their summons, since going near the Keep will trigger the NPCs to change behavior/moments.
Redflesh Mushroom farming - Greatbridge North side of grace. Are x6 on the small plateau/hill, to left of the burnt out village. Slightly more efficient farm and simpler imo
the encampment attacked by the undead dragon has a lot of embers of messmer, even though it's not as close to a grace it may be a much better location to farm them. also, the weak enemies in the specimen storehouse (the ones that can cast the fire spell at least) drop them quite often, so they might be an even better source, I don't know. P.S. the cracked hefty pots are 10, not 8.
Great video! I just just killed the last Fire Golem thanks to you! So, I killed most of them the old fashioned/bite their ankles way. This was partly because they made it clear that there were only a very limited number of items in the world to make the stronger pots. But understood the armored ones would need fire pots. I am sure I am not alone when I say the two different strengths of fire pots was a bit confusing. And yes, I understand about the Furnace Visage etc. I guess my main...um...gripe about the whole deal is: because the "throwing pot" is a new mechanic (several have to be awakened by pots while others can only be killed by pots) why do they make both the visages "scarce" and also the Black Pyreflies a limited quantity???? When I tried to craft my last batch of the non-visage pots I ran out of fireflies!!! only to discover the only ones left were at the Round Table store (after turning in Moore's Bell Bearing. But my gripe is there are only 8. I had assumed the non-visage pots used things we could farm... if we needed to. Wrong (LOL) And I believe several are needed for each pot. Luckily I squeaked by with enough to complete this, but besides being a terrible aim with these things, (and of course I did improve with each pot thrown) and crafting them while fighting is not the best idea! Ha ha. I was getting a bit...let's say peeved that the lesser pots were NOT infinitely craftable because buying Pyreflies wasn't an option past 8. My aim was def not the best, and I wasted more than a few pots. But I would have been even more stressed if I realized earlier that there is a real chance of not being able to kill all of them because - - running out of fireflies? Anyway this comment is too long! Ha ha. Just glad to cross these Wickermen off my list and your video made it easy for me to find the last couple and kill them. Thanks again.
Right to the entrance of Shadow Keep where destroyed golems laying down and you can find Furnace Keeper's Note with info how to destroy them I found that mobs there drops Visage. At least they did it for me once. So probably worth to check it if you can farm enough Visages.
What you never showed was that the fire golem at Ancient Ruins of Rauh (8:54) there is also a giant with a bow that happily ruins your day when you try to throw pots at the golem from above...and for me the golem teleports back to the original place after I have hit it with a pot.
I guess for the second one at the ancient east your supposed to just ignore that giant archer shooting those big ass arrows at you while you try to take down the furnace golem, because you can’t get to him.
haha I already killed the unarmored ones the hardway. If you plan on doing the hardway, and this also applies to other golems, which ever leg you hit last that triggers them to fall is also the same side their vulnerable spot will be on. hit the right leg then they'll be facing the right side and if you hit the left leg then they'll be facing the left side
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Maybe next time if you can figure out how to say visage
@@moghul8318 maybe
There's an extra cracked pot in Bonny Village across the broken bridge, in another burned structure and at the back of a hill. 2 more Greater Potentates (Butchers) roam and YES they can jump on top of that elongated building. There's also an emote on a tree even father back and something very interesting to the left of that secluded in the foliage. So there might be 10 hefty pots or more in the game. I'm going very slow like I did in he base game
Great video. Just curious if you're not a native English speaker? Just because of a couple pronunciations. Also when you listed the ingredients for the heavy fire pot, you said "one ingredient you'll need if the fire fly. Another ingredient you'll need is the mushroom. " it just kinda bothered me grammatically, like nails on a chalk board
@@moghul8318 also potentate = /poe-ten-tate/
For everyone who doesn't know this already: The "hefty furnace pot" is NOT a limited item, you're able to craft this one in an unlimited amount because you can actually farm the needed furnace visages. Use the very first grace you find in Mesmers castle. Not Rellana's but Mesmer's castle. Take the elevator down to the main entrance. Leave the castle and right as you pass the gate you take a sharp left. There a some remains of already destroyed Furnance Golems. Around said remains you'll find a small squad of soldiers searching the area. If you kill them, there's a chance to achieve a rare drop and this rare item is the much needed furnance visage. Before you ask: No, you can't farm this item anywhere else. It has to be this exact spot, because no soldier in the entire DLC map will drop this no matter how often you kill him.
You are right Proteus2905, and thank you for the tip, also the name of the site of Grace is: Shadow Keep main gate.
Thank you for this info. Didn't know u could farm it there
Thank you ❤
I have observed this in my first DLC playthrough. Also, there are free visages in the area
Thx bro
Also, if you complete the Jar Bairn quest you could use the COMPANION JAR talisman to get a 20% more damage on the pots.
There is also the Greatjar Helm, which increase throwing pot damage by 16%.
@@canadianjoker5033oh thank you, I forgot all about that helm!
@@robadams1645-The Greatjar Helm is new in Shadow of the Erdtree, not to be confused with the base game helm, which does not boost Hefty Pots.
@@canadianjoker5033 thanks again. I have both but I forgot about the newer one.
😅 I forgot that buff haha
14:51
Guys I summoned my mimic before getting up here. He teleported to me and started using the furnace pots. So you can actually save some of your pots.
HUGE
Nice, gonna try that fosho
Yeah i’ve caught my mimic using buffs and items upon summoning him 🤣 like hold on there you’re not so much of an npc from the looks of it !
Great idea! I always forget the mimic summon has unlimited items as long as you have at least one loaded in your items slots.
Wow, I didn’t know you could do that to almost every Furnace Golem. Thank you so much. This was very helpful
Right! Glad you can start getting them tears
Lmao I love to see the couple support 😭❣️
I mean this in the best way possible: This video reminds me of old school TH-cam guides! Great job! :D
Straight forward guides haha
Visages can be farmed from the minion enemies next to the burnt out furnace golem where you found the note
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@@therealfriday13thThey are to the right of SE of the shadow keep main gate entrance. Farm the lesser soldiers for furnace visages. The drop rate is good.
@@thewatcherontheothersidealso get a Messmer Ember in the area so it’s a great all in one farm.
I have a dex int mate. I used shard spiral. If you cast it from the side, it hits both legs and it will stagger them constantly.
Beautiful thanks for sharing
Ty bro, this helped me out so much
I hear Pest Spears work really well too. I can't seem to live through the flaming popcorn attacks when I'm above the armored ones though.
In Belurat Goal I actually found 3 hefty pots!!! There’s 2 in that room you mention here and one more in a chest when you fall down that center hole from hanging pot to hanging pot. Descend slowly cuz it’s easy to miss but if you do miss simply start at the beginning of the cave cave again 👍
For those wondering this isn't true. Might have been when commented but at least the part about there being 2 in the room mentioned is false
This expansion is wild too much unknown content thanks man
Its insane! They literally just made a whole new game! Appreciate you Ramsey
@@PhillyBeatzGames Insane how much I've still missed despite already taking things extremely slowly and thoroughly
@@apophisstr6719ain't that just all souls games
That's why it's worth every cent. There's more content in this DLC than most AAA games that have been in development for upwards of 4 to 5 years.
Of course they had a great foundation to work with the base game heading into the dlc, but they still went above and beyond to bring that much more content for completely new builds to make the replay value even higher
I equipped the pots and called my mimic after getting in position once I woke the golem up, then it did it for me. Apparently the mimic will do it for you without you having to use your pots, as long as you already have some made and equipped.
How is that supposed to work? It would be nice if you could explain this in more detail.
@melone66 Mimic tear "uses" any items you have equipped on your character without draining your own inventory. But they are limited to the actual number of pots equipped
Good info, thanks! Side note, you may want to look up the pronunciation of visage, i was getting a bit hung up on that personally
Lol
You can just buy mushrooms if you find the mushroom bell bearing. Much easier to buy them than to farm. For the Ember of Messmer there's one on the road direct west (left on the map) of the Moorn Ruins grace. Don't know if it's closer, but it's right there and you don't have to run around obstacles or inside a tent. Just run to the road, grab it and run back in a straight shot.
Where’s the mushroom bell bearing
@@PhillyBeatzGames there's 2 I found so far. One is on the way to cerulean coast. Past the river grace you get halfway through the river. Going down, you'll see a stone pillar/bridge on its side. Jump on it and look at the waterfall. You'll see a pot hanging there. Shoot it with an arrow (or use a shakle which also works on the stones blocking the spirit spring jumps) and get the item that drops. The other one is the opposite way down the river (the same way you get the 2 headed turtle talisman). If you go left before where the crabs are and keep going until you reach the cliff edge it's right there, hanging on a wall. Just look around and you should see it. There's also one that gives you string now. It's around Prospect Town. I suspect there are more, but those are the only 3 I found.
I found em by accident man I love exploring 😂
@@MFD00MTR33-There is also one that allows you to buy Fly Mold and who wouldn't want that?😏
@@canadianjoker5033 where do you find that one? I found 5 (2 mushroom, string, Herb and resin) but not that one. I figured there's more out there.
The golem from 8:54 can be easily taken down from the bridge. When it starts to attack you, move back to the last site of grace and wait eventually he will fall to his death.
You fr? How long do you wait?
@@ayyfrieza2783 maybe 5 min? Because after I got back from the bridge I started to look around for item and suddenly I got some physic upgrades and runes.
this absolutely does not work
he just keeps shooting
I was on a call with family that took like an hour. While on the call, I was half paying attention to fire bro and the whole time I just sat back and watched him cast over and over. Fire bro would kneel and never reach me with his shot. I even steered him back and forth across the edge of the little waterfall and he didn't ever fall. Maybe you got lucky and he decided randomly to take that extra step ( off ). Then off the call I got the boss down in like 5mins with the strat in the video.
1:19 for the mushrooms you can actually get a hidden bell bearing inside a breakable pot left of the river mouth cave or at the end of the river. You can get unlimited red flesh mushrooms if you find it.
Thank you for putting in all the work here. Much appreciated.
Lol when I read that note it had me looking all over for a furnace. I threw my pots at the dungeon furnaces where you grab weapons from…lol
3:43 north of the Moorth Highway, south sight of grace. There are 6 that can be found in the ashes. Only down side is that you’ll have to kill or avoid the undead dragon
Thanks Akosa for sharing!!!
Yeap thanks for the tip man!!
Thanks for the video. I think it is easier to use Dragon Ancient Lightning strike to stagger it until it fells and you do a critical hit, two times and it is gone. Can be pure faith, 60 is enough.
Thanks for the vid man, big help. Also fantastic background music choice, flame core theme from sonic 06 is peak
Glad you liked it!
amber of mesmmers are easier found near where the ghost flame dragon is attacking the enemies
Thanks for sharing!
Exactly what I was going to say. There’s 4 or 5 around there
There are a bunch of Ember of Messmer down the road from your spot. From the Moorth Ruins site of grace, head south on the closest path there is one right away. Head south to the small encampment by the dragon that the soldiers are fighting. There are 6 in the camp, plus one on the path and the one that you showed makes 8 per run.
Ember of Messmer farm - Where the soldiers are fighting the ghost flame dragon south of Moorth Ruins. Obviously better if you've killed the dragon, but it's possible to ride in there, grab a bunch and ride out. FYI, once you've beaten the dragon, the soldiers do not spawn there again.
Furnace Visage farm - kill the soldiers in the camp where you found the Furnace Keeper's Note. They drop them. The drop rate is low but it's better than nothing.
First time I’ve of heard of this method. Thanks man!
I feel like Moorth ruins has a better ember grinding spot! Just near the site of grace there is a mounted black knight patrolling. Along the road he’s on there can be found like two or three embers so if you sprint by on torrent and back to the site you should be able to grab them without much fear of the black knight
Glad to see that you can deal with these golems in an easier and more efficient way that still requires effort but is actually more fun than trying to fight these things "normally". What's more resources to make the pots aren't a problem to find. For the better pots you can get easy 3 or something furnace visages if you bring the Grandma scorpion soup(the one in the Belurat village) to the Hornsent follower of Miquela(dude with bandages on his head). He will give you several visages as thanks.
To unlock the soup you need to speak with Grandma while wearing the Dancing Lion head. Do it multiple times until she gives you the soup. You can get another soup if you use it/give away from her as well. As long as she lives you can get them.
More efficient? Obviously none of the golems went ultra instant the second you pressed throw and obviously you didn’t have to learn there only x amount of furnace visages locking you out of whatever rewards the golem holds
@@Dngotem You can still use the pots that don't require visages. They simply hit for lesser damage.
@@chillax319 aye, but the dmg is not proportionate to ng+ stats, 8 is not enough 😂
I imagine this will be changed soon
@@Dngotem Well I waited with any ng+ for the DLC so I'm not going to face that problem but yeah, dmg scaling seems to be borked if even 8 pots is not enough. Better wait for a patch before blowing through all the pots.
if you go to Rivermouth cave and go a little past it to the right you will see a pot you can shoot down. it with give you a Bell Bearing you can use to buy as much redflesh mushroon as you want
if you really want to trivialize these things just use the spiral glintsone spell, it completely cripples them and is spammable, alternatively you can also use pest threads/spears. if youre throwing pots just use the furnace pots as they basically take 1/3 of their health.
Bro! Thanks for this post. Im running a mage this play through and went to get shard spiral and it shreds these furnace golems! It staggered twice. Fell in a spot that I couldn't get a crititcal hit but when he stood up he had next to no health. 10/10
@@McWarlord You're welcome, glad it helped.
1:42 there's actually a bell bearing that contain mushrooms and redflesh in the river bank locations
Ty
The furnace visage item is actually farmable, although the drop is extremely rare. I'm the same place you get that Furnace Keeper's note, the common soldiers that spawn there can drop it. There are 6 soldiers - I usually got 1 drop every run with high discovery. I had 60+ is less than 30 min.
The large volcanic pot also works for hunting the furnace golems, and they have a d.o.t. effect on them, downside is you need gas stones.
This was super helpful, thank you!
For anyone running intelligence builds, Shard Spiral that you can purchase from Sorceress Sellen in the base game at the end of her quest line breaks their stance pretty easily with multiple casts.
You're my GOAT men, it's 100 times easier
@@Aleponceee Haha thanks! I was searching for them after I found that out. Can take them down in less than a minute!
1:26 I've farmed this spot extensively and the Pyreflies DON'T reset unless you die. Tip: From the Castle Front Grace, head northwest and circle the camp counter-clockwise, walking off the edge after collecting the last Pyreflies. The loop allows you to collect 9 Pyreflies and 3 Redflesh Mushrooms before retrieving your runes and dying to reset.
I had to struggle with the first ones, especially the one at charos hidden grave site, he set the hill aflame before I could throw even one pot..than I learned to fight them, and was no longer a problem..the 2 armored I threw hefty furnace in and they died within ( maybe was 2 but not wanting to fail I threw another for an overkill).. if you struggle with it, try to excercise with the cheaper fire pots first..
when you are comfortable with the situation, use the furnace ones… the other where you slash, just take time , let him do his attacks, jump over them, repeat
@PhillyBeatzGames I found out for the first Furnace Golem 7:38, you can goad it into approaching the cliff just SW of the "Pillar Path Waypoint" Site of Grace.
I used a great bow with the Arrow's Reach Talisman and Shabriri's Woe to get it over to the cliff, then swapped to the Companion Jar, Fire Scorpion Charm, and Ritual Sword Talisman when I was ready to start chucking Hefty Fire Pots
14:00 You can actually kill it from here if you are fast enough. For me, it took 3 furnace pots, 1 to activate it, and another 2 to kill it.
Idk if the first one damages it, but it only took 3 for me. Might be different for you, as it might’ve been a glitch.
I just used Wing of Astel on the legs. Worked like a charm.
Awesome video bro thank you very much! 💯
9:20 Tip: Turn right and use Margit/Mohg's Shackle to activate Spirit Spring. It allows you to get above the Furnace Golem without having to go all the way to the top.😉
is there anyway to activate the spring without the shackle?
@@jw81687-Yes, you have to find the stone stack and break it. It's easier to just use a shackle, though.
I was able to bait the Furnace Golem from a valley ledge with arrows and when he got close enough tossed in the pots...the hard part was getting to the ledge since it accessible from one of the later areas.
This video is amazing man, Thanks!
You can get 3 furnace visages from hornsent if you bring him a scorpion stew from the old lady in belurat, though you do have to do this before miquella's seal breaks.
wow thanks for the info!
Impressed by how easy you make it look my boy
There's 2 more hefty cracked pots, one is by the church on top of the entrance into the dlc and another is on the cliffs jumping down the mountain before the fire guy into cerulean coast, they are both hanging from a rope, you just have to shoot them down with a bow
You're referring to bell bearings, not Hefty Cracked Pots. There are 10 in total, he missed 2 is Belurat Goal.
Amazing guide bro. Thanks for making me not suck at taking these things down in NG+7 , it takes 3furnace pits to take them down lol, wont even bother with the hefty ones :))
Screw “best new build!!! One shot everything!” guides. This guide is amazing ❤🎉
I'm glad this helped haha. Technically this is a 3 shot with the Furnace Pots
Just wasted all.of them. Rip
@@Blazingsouls420I’ve never used pots but I thought after they broke, you’d get them back after resting at a grace and you’d just have to use the other ingredients to remake whatever pot you want.
@@Blazingsouls420 still need hefty for them cos I tried normal fire pots and its not great... lol and hefty pots apparently dont respawn in ng+ either
I always wondered this I've never used pots either. So are they reusable or no? I get having to refill em but they are reusable right?
Its actually possible to farm furnace visages. East of the Main shadow keep Gate there will be a dead furnace golem and Messmer soldiers.these drop furnace visages
@@JH-ok5lxYes the pots are reusable but the other 2 ingredients needed to craft them has to be farmed.
spot for the Embers uhh, cant think of the grace off the top of my head but its the grace that has the 3 Black Knights around a camp and another ruin. Oh! Where you fight the first duel with the Martial Arts Master dude too! There are... 2 or 3 (again I dont remember for sure) along the road one of the Black Knights patrols
And here I thought I had em all. That "hidden" one was in front of my face this whole time ffs 😂😂😂 Thanks
For easier Embers of Mesmer, spawn at the Moorth Ruins grace. Then get onto the road and ride it north. You will find about 6 Embers just on this road if you ride till the northernmost campsite gate and back.
lol talking about fire, nice touch using the lava stage theme from sonic 06!!
Death Poker+CrimsonWhorl tear got me through every unarmoured FG no problem.
You can also wear the big pot! And the pot talisman to increase the damage
There’s a farm spot for Furnace visage & ember of Messmer at the “shadow keep main gate” grace. Use life down, go to the left outside the castle, you’ll see both items every time
My God, THANK YOU! that one dude for the cracked tear was absolutely impossible for me.
If you run out of the furnace visage go to the shadow keep main entrance. Before you head up the stairs go to the right.
There are soldiers near the dead furnace that drops them. Get your silver tear mask, and silver scarf and silver pickled fowl foot ready if your arcane is low.
Be Careful using up all your Furnace Visage's (I think there are 40 in the whole game) as a few are needed for a secret area late on.
If you follow the path that leads to Shadowkeep from Moore site of grace, you get a lot of embers on the sides of the road and also on your way to the nearby church, where you find the Kindred npc
you can farm Furnace Visage, the soilders around where the note is located at will drop them
13:25 If you do the cheese to use Torrent to jump over back wall to get Sword of Darkness you get locked out from activating Golem. I guess dropping down inside makes game think you already activated it. My pots won’t wake it up. Just FYI.
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The soldiers on the right side of the black keep front door, the ones guarding the broken golems, carries furnace visage on them. They can be farmed over and over for it. I get about 4 per round.
Messmer Embers also near Moorth Ruins, lying around across the gracen there is a small encampent with Black Knight riders nearby. Couple of embers around 3 or 4. Ez farm hop on torrent and spam collect, rinse and repeat.
I'm sure someone has mentioned but there is a 2nd Hefty Cracked Pot in Belirat Gaol. Same area (pot maze) but much deeper into it and well hidden (but still on top of some pots).
Furnace golems were a paun until i figured out a method of fighting them: borderline heavy roll armor defensive talasmans and physic and focus 95% on when the stomps are coming while mashing heavy attack.
Youll get it eventually and it cant hurt you much in return! As expected i havent started on the armored ones yet lol.
Just fight them on horseback and double jump their stomps. You'll no-hit them easily.
@umarthdc you don't even need to be on horseback it's tight but you can just jump em
@@AgentSapphire yes, but in horseback is easier
@@umarthdc its... actually easier to just use the defensive physic and some talasmins. The fire stomps dont hurt much if you mistime the leap. You still want to dodge but this way you can focus on actually fighting instead of making sure you pull out torrent. The golems will die VERY quickly after so you dont have to worry about much. The double stomp is still real dangerous though.
@@AgentSapphire thats hella overkill, if you just use torrent theyre probably the easiest enemy to dodge in the entire game
Farming location for furnace visages, and an ember of mesmer: to the right of shadow keep main entrance. 5-6 bandits moderate chance to drop (they’re by a decayed furnace golem)
On the west side of the moorth ruin site of grace there is a black knight on horse riding north, let it pass and there are 3 embers of messmer that you can farm.
For Ember of Mesmer just go to Moorth Highway South to the ruined camp where you fight the dragon, the place is empty after the fight, use Torrent, there are 4 embers there easy and quick to grab, better that one by one.
The throwing pots one are so frustrating, i finally have a build strong enough to take down the ones u can get on feet but the throwing ones are terrible to deal with
You can tell dude's never heard some of these words said out loud before 🤣
Not sure if it's better but I farm the messemer things outside the "shadow keep main gate" sight of grace, If the walking volcano isn't there, and if it is once you get close to the camp it starts to walk away so you don't even need to deal with it. Plus you get like 6 in one rotation
For the ember of messmer you can farm those pretty quick from the shadowy people at the storage site of grace in the dark hold. They drop every 2nd. Or 3rd mob for me with the silver scarab equipped
Since you asked for a better farming spot, there is a small messmer soldier encampment with 6 respawning embers of messmer near the Moorth ruins site of grace! :)
There are two Hefty Crack Pots in the Belurat Gaol. The one in the maze, and the one in the chest (platforming section going down with many hanging pots)
I suggest using a greatsword with rapors mist , it works wonders
The first Furnace Golem can be killed from above, just shoot it with arrows from the ledge to the east - then drop pots into him - you may need to get his attention a couple of times if he returns to his area.
Something u didn't mention is that u can farm Visages from the regular soldiers that spawn next to the dead furnace golem in front of the Shadow Keep so u don't have just a limited amount of Hefty Furnace Pots ... may take a while to farm alot but still better than relying on the ones placed in the world
Awesome video! Really helped me out. Also, it's pronounced poe-ten-tate. It means a monarch or ruler. Cheers!
Good to know!
with the ruins of unte you can summon mimic to throw the pots to save using your pots
Two things: I think that the location behind castle ensis is a much better location for farming messmer embers (highroads cross site of grace). I also think that streamers should always warn players about going to or in the Shadow Keep, because they may want to preserve the P1 of their summons, since going near the Keep will trigger the NPCs to change behavior/moments.
There’s two hefty pots in belurat Gail you have e to take a lift before the boss room to a secret area
Redflesh Mushroom farming - Greatbridge North side of grace.
Are x6 on the small plateau/hill, to left of the burnt out village. Slightly more efficient farm and simpler imo
I beat most of these things without pots. Absolute pain and now I feel like a moron lol. Good to know there is a better way for my next playthrough
There is also an easy to get Hefty Pot near the Prospect Village hanging off the side of the cliff, in the little valley to the north west side of it.
Awesome vid 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
the encampment attacked by the undead dragon has a lot of embers of messmer, even though it's not as close to a grace it may be a much better location to farm them.
also, the weak enemies in the specimen storehouse (the ones that can cast the fire spell at least) drop them quite often, so they might be an even better source, I don't know.
P.S. the cracked hefty pots are 10, not 8.
Great video! I just just killed the last Fire Golem thanks to you!
So, I killed most of them the old fashioned/bite their ankles way.
This was partly because they made it clear that there were only a very limited number of items in the world to make the stronger pots.
But understood the armored ones would need fire pots. I am sure I am not alone
when I say the two different strengths of fire pots was a bit confusing. And yes, I understand about the Furnace Visage etc.
I guess my main...um...gripe about the whole deal is: because the "throwing pot" is a new mechanic (several have to be awakened by pots while others can only be killed by pots) why do they make both the visages "scarce" and also the Black Pyreflies a limited quantity????
When I tried to craft my last batch of the non-visage pots I ran out of fireflies!!! only to discover the only ones left were at the Round Table store (after turning in Moore's Bell Bearing. But my gripe is there are only 8. I had assumed the non-visage pots used things we could farm... if we needed to.
Wrong (LOL)
And I believe several are needed for each pot. Luckily I squeaked by with enough to complete this, but besides being a terrible aim with these things, (and of course I did improve with each pot thrown) and crafting them while fighting is not the best idea! Ha ha.
I was getting a bit...let's say peeved that the lesser pots were NOT infinitely craftable because buying Pyreflies wasn't an option past 8.
My aim was def not the best, and I wasted more than a few pots. But I would have been even more stressed if I realized earlier that there is a real chance of not being able to kill all of them because - - running out of fireflies?
Anyway this comment is too long! Ha ha. Just glad to cross these Wickermen off my list and your video made it easy for me to find the last couple and kill them. Thanks again.
I just used the hefty pots. But I had 8 of them. Once you get them once, they kind of stay stationary and you can just nuke them in place.
From the Moorth ruins grace on the way to Fort of Reprimand, you can find several ember of messmer.
That Oath in Felghana music tho :D
Ay thanks for the video man
Any time!
Right to the entrance of Shadow Keep where destroyed golems laying down and you can find Furnace Keeper's Note with info how to destroy them I found that mobs there drops Visage. At least they did it for me once. So probably worth to check it if you can farm enough Visages.
You made any furnace pots!?
What you never showed was that the fire golem at Ancient Ruins of Rauh (8:54) there is also a giant with a bow that happily ruins your day when you try to throw pots at the golem from above...and for me the golem teleports back to the original place after I have hit it with a pot.
I guess for the second one at the ancient east your supposed to just ignore that giant archer shooting those big ass arrows at you while you try to take down the furnace golem, because you can’t get to him.
The damage, oil, stamina and restore hp nearby allies are the best overall.
The Second Furnace Golem at Castle Watering Hole will Reset if you try to lure him to the edge now. Just a heads up!
Ember of mesmer... sacdu altus. Head north from the first grace. There are three or four just off the path.
haha I already killed the unarmored ones the hardway. If you plan on doing the hardway, and this also applies to other golems, which ever leg you hit last that triggers them to fall is also the same side their vulnerable spot will be on. hit the right leg then they'll be facing the right side and if you hit the left leg then they'll be facing the left side
Finally a guide for the ruins of unte furnace golem kill
Got you bro
Watched a few videos I should come here first 😮💨 good ole reliable