How Clones Reacted to being Replaced by Stormtroopers who were Non-clones - Star Wars Explained
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Clone: *makes mistake*
Vader: "You should probably retire, son."
Officer: *makes mistake*
Vader: *murders the entire room of people*
Vader had more respect for clones because he fought with them in the clone wars and they were the ones who fought on the front line every day. They were also very loyal to the Empire. Officers, on the other hand, were cocky insignificant cowards who hid up in their destroyers. Vader had little to no tolerence for officers.
@@tylrr6397 basically. I was gonna comment this but yeah you pretty much nailed it
@Carter Hughes well you are right, vader is the teacher that is cool with lower classes and strict with upper classes
Vader respects competence above all
Vader is israel mafia
I really liked how Vader asked him to retire and did nothing after he said no.
I'm reading the Tarkin book right now where that scene is from. I wouldn't say that Vader asked him to retire. He says something like: "Perhaps you're aging too quickly to serve." And Sergeant Crest apologizes and tells Vader that he wouldn't drop the chamber again.
Simple, Vader altered the deal and made the clone pray that he wouldn't alter it any further.. :)
Brian Boardwell I like the part where Vader says “you have failed me for the last time, sergeant,” and crest is just like “I understand that sir...” then Vader just lets him go about doing what clones do.
DarkStar189 Lol ikr?
Killerninja He likes Clones and Stormtroopers better than imperial officers, who were very overconfident and arrogante
Clones: Maybe killing the Jedi was a bad idea
Cold Flame they didn’t want to.
Tenpenny some did.
Cold Flame even if they did most of them didn’t do it until the chip made them
Tenpenny good point. I knew Rex wouldn’t do it.
the chip was added into star wars after order 66 and i think its just something to make the clones more "human"
clones were genetic modified beeing made for war.
We never really got used to the new guys.
got that reference
Sniff sniff
I actually watching Clone Wars now, after what should I watch? Help please ^^
Un-broken and victorious
Actually no, my computer is dead so for now..no chance, in the summer maybe, can you give me more Info?
Un-broken and victorious
So I understand that The Clone Wars was actually a standalone series....and I found out what order 66 was about :c
And to understand...after the clone wars I should play the games huh? No other animated series were made..
Clones: THEY TOOK ER JOOOOBS
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TOOK ERWW JOWS!!
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It's quite sad when you think about it
Hasan Wilson how's it sad, they're made soldiers, expandable. Their opinion doesn't matter.
Sad Black Boy SHUT
How does a warrior adjust when his war is finally over?
Ehh they killed the Jedi so fuck em
but don;t all veterans get the same treatment? they are used and discarded by their governements.
Recruiters: can you aim ?
Some guy :what’s that ?
Recruiter:grab your stuff , you’ve been accepted
Trooper: "we're clones sir, we're meant to be expendable"
Vader: "not to me you're not."
@@jamesmcsherry5794 stfu
@@jamesmcsherry5794 to be fair the comment you made was extremely strange and out of place
Vader probably hate anything natural, but had a liking to artificial stuff.
@@savary5050 it looks like he deleted it, what did he say????? I wanna know
@@longjumpingad3721 same
They never really got used to the new guys.
King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England NOBODY EVER DID!!!!
We never did.
Nope.
King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England what about the 501st
What about the 501st
We are far better than stormtroopers
That's why you got replaced 👍
Esork Gonzalez wait what, I don't get it.
TheGamingHero 346 I was sorta mocking him 👍
"I hope you brought a better class of soldiers than those "Stormtroopers".
Yeah,but your still a traitor.And a phase 2 wearer.
I HATE YOU CODY,
LONG LIVE TO REX!
"Normal Human stormtroopers are more like B1 Battle Droids."
Retired Instructor Cody
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Owen Holl why?
@@cringlepingle313 He probably commented on the wrong thread
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Owen Holl
Why are you here Mr. History Book?
Where is the logic in replacing easily recruitable killing machines with poorly trained induviduals who can't hit the broadside of a barn?!
Doesn't justy the fact that they stopped producing clones in general. As you have also seen, stormtroopers are batshit useless and an avarage human being with no training at all could easily hit more shots than the average stormtrooper. They could also spread the cloning techology to other places in the universe to make the production quicker.
Poorly trained? They almost killed all the Jedi in episode 2! Wut? Also in the anime Star Wars clone wars! There were many times without jedis aid them the clones would had died by now. And there been a few times where a b1 battle droid commander or commandos to have good aim
I am unsure weather you are trying to refer to the clones or stormtroopers right now, but this should be proof enough about their ''training''. th-cam.com/video/EFeJUfHu0GM/w-d-xo.html&user=Talkin%27%20Tuskens
Sorry when you said the word killing machines... I thought you refer to battle droids lol
biological weapon target at specific DNA maybe
This is kinda of sad actually, the clones were actually far more better than the stormtroopers. But it was kind of enough to see that Vader Actually showed sympathy towards them, even when there getting up there. To see him not being mad at even like important cargo, its actually rare to see.
Its notmal that the clones would be times better than standart recruits, the clones were bread for war,their trainings adaptation,loyalty were simply miles above what the majority of Stormtroopers had.
We in the Stormtrooper Corps will never forget Lord Vader. He always had our backs, and he never asked us to do something he wouldn't do himself.
Harry Tapscott Apology accepted, Captain Needa.
Vader fought with these soldiers as veterans of the Clone Wars. Many of the Legends materials that involve the transition of the Empire, Vader was widely respected by the 501st and vise versa. He basically values the clones more because they were battle hardened soldiers of the old republic.
Kind of like the Old Guard Grenadiers of Napoleon’s Empire.
far more better
I think that the empire should have at least continued to clone new jango fett clones in smaller numbers for elite units where their skill was most needed.
Oh really, jeez what a downer.
Never thought anyone in the Galactic Empire could have thought of that in the first place before they completely scrap the idea of continuing the clone army.
Thanks a lot Palpatine, you pathetic excuse for a Galactic Emperor.
Ibrahim Mekonnen one of the reasons for them to stop the clonings was bacause they had almost nothing of Jango Fett DNA left, and if they used the clones DNA they would lose quality
Use Anakin Skywalkers DNA.
DM-Oz In all actuality that wouldnt be true. If Dna was taken from a clone trooper in its earliest stage of development(a younger stage means the clone embryo wouldnt have a grown clones cellular makeup), they could easily continue the clone army. Clone trooper Dna is just as viable as Jangos. The quality would not be affected
Eli-akad Im prety sure that was said somewhere that they couldnt use the clones DNA becaise they would have worst results or something like that
Yeah, the clones weren't expecting this.
Palpatine: "I am replacing you with "better troopers."
Clone: "You mean the troopers who can't hit a target, even at point blank?"
Palpatine: "They are a great many troopers who are willing to die for the Empire."
Clone: "You mean like they always do in the thousands every day?"
Palpatine: "…"
Many became the stormtroopers.
Legends version makes more sense. Even aging twice as quickly the Empire could have gotten another 15 years or so of effective (and potentially frontline) service out of those soldiers they had already paid for. Also with the change to the imperial system they would have needed vastly more ground troops to occupy so many worlds so the cloning facilities and training facilities which were already running full stop would have been completely needed for at least several years till a great many academies were fully established.
The kamino rebellion, cough, no it isn't.
Stop being a basic bitch fan and read the real books, The new Disney canon is so vapid and makes the OT pointless.
Then don't use the word 'normal bitch fan' some of legends was so stupid I think that it's worse then Disney.... A sub crusher? Clones of sidious? Yeah, no. Next time, don't judge someone simply because they dislike something, buddy...
Besides, I didn't insult you, why are you insulting me? If you wanted to make a point, make a point, insults are just petty. Besides, they couldn't produce clones until the end of time anyway, clone wars even says they can only produce so many clones before the Dna degrades and becomes usless... Besides, empire wants numbers over quality... And with the universe under the empire's grip, they had little need for more elite troops at the time.... So I understand cannon....
It's called the Sun Crusher have you read The Jedi Academy Series? No. You just watched at video. Plus learn how to use Ellipsis properly.
Clones are so freaking badass
Henry J. Meh
Sad Black Boy hater
JEM'HADAR: HELO MY BROTHER FROM ANOTHER CLONER!
Freaking I know right freaking
Meh nah
The clones probably only like working with other clones cause they probably didn’t trust there lives with some random stranger. It’s more comforting that you’ll have yourself watching your back. 😆. And you’ll fight harder for your brethren
I don’t like how soon the transition happened in canon. 501st should’ve remained clones
Amerikkka's Most Wanted it's so dull
Amerikkka's Most Wanted everything about canon sucks lol
I agree
Too expensive and the Empire were human supremacists so it makes sense.
the 501st are still clone in the empire is cannon.
lets all remember, Legends WAS canon until Fricken' Disney bought Star Wars
NerdAlert _8 most of legends was never considered canon
And most of Legends contradicted each other. It was a complete mess. LucasArts was the one that recommended to create the Canon in the first place.
@Valter Fara
What are you talking about?
in Legends there were many chronologies and guides so you could understand the history
Maybe it was more complex but it was not bad
@@BlyUehara37 I never said it was bad, just a complex mess. For example: before the prequels, they had a version of what the Clone Wars were, like some kind of Clone invasion to the galaxy. Novels as Labyrinth of Evil and the Clone Wars 2008 series (considered part of Legends by Lucas) made many contradictions.
Legends was good but also an inconsistent mess
Interesting. The Clones were by far the best army. To hell to whoever says otherwise.
Mandalorians.
Ramseas119 I think he just means between clone and storm troopers
"Education and armor, self-defense, our tribe, our language, our leader-all help us survive. We must educate our children as Mandalorians, obey the commands of Mandalore, speak Mando'a and defend our clans." -The Resol'nare
thats what makes a Mandalorian, not DNA. many Clones chose to become Mandalorians, yes, but many others were far from it.
also, when selected to be the template for the clone army, Jango went and hired a hundred different people to train the clone army along side him. they were called the Cuy'val Dar, which translates to "those who do not exist." out of those 100, 75 were Mandalorians, the other 25 were a combination of bounty hunters and warriors from across the galaxy. many of the Mando trainers were known to raise the clones under their command in a very similar way to Mandalorians, but never truly made them Mandalorian. only a few rare cases are shown in book form, ex: Kal Skirata from the Republic Commando novels by Karen Traviss.
(as a sidenote, a lot of people make the mistake of thinking that Mandalorian, or Corellian are completely separate races, but they're just a group of people, in the same way youd call someone Japanese or British. the only real difference is that Mandalorians dont care about species or bloodline or anything except what you choose to do with the rest of your life. they did start with a majority of one species called the Taung, but eventually the majority of them were humans thanks to them having the largest population in the galaxy. the majority of every civilization were humans.)
Ramseas119 @ Well...Clones ARE Mandalorians in terms of DNA but I'd assume you and the OP are talking strictly about how they were trained to be the best rather than them being born the best phsyically. Jango did teach the initial clones didn't he (?) so I'd assume his students would have passed on those Mandalorians skills to their students and so on so they must be just as good (skill wise) as any trained Mandalorian you would think.
Ramseas119 @ Oh wait...scrap that. Just read your reply haha. I actually thought Mandalorian were a race, my bad. Good read.
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The stormtroopers are a insult to the clones mainly because stormtroopers can hit anything even die by tripping over his own blaster and although the clones can miss but at least they can hit their targets 89% of the time
Tell that to the battalion under my command.
So are Imperial Stormtroopers, depending on their commanding officer of course.
As a very small officer minority within the Empire, I study galactic history, pass on my knowledge to the battalion under my command, and ensure that they are aware of their predecessors, and that they receive the same vigorous training. I also develop good relationships with my troops, and prefer to lead them personally into battle. Unfortunately we are far too small to change anything in the Empire.
It is because of the force
Spartan A111
I think u mean: "stormtroopers CAN'T hit anything..."
They were like ok yeah replace us. But at least we have better aim
I've been waiting for you to do a video on the Clones reaction to being decommissioned.
Killeric Longstar They need to make a movie about this. That way everyone will know what happened to clones.
Un-broken and victorious I understand where you're coming from but at the same time I have to disagree with you on that.
Too dark a theme for Disney, it would be retconned. Plus Disney hates having grey area themes, they want bad guys to be evil.
I don't know, the newer movies have been trying to add as much of a grey area as possible.
@@thelife7433 I think everyone knows what happened to them, they were clones that became loyal Imperial stormtroopers & they were clones that became defect & rebels.
I think they should make a comic or something in which two stormtroopers: a clone and a normal human, find themselves captured by rebels and they they have to work together to escape and at the end they finally respect each other
Luis Matos That sounds like it would be awesome
Luis Matos indeed
Luis Matos Sounds corny but I do love me some corn! Plus, this is star wars we're talking about
I would prefer if there were captured by pirates instead of the rebel alliance.
That's a really good idea. Me like alot.
1:36 Vader seems sound enough to just say I think you've worked hard enough
Big change from captain Needa...
Vader had great respect for clones as he felt a strong kinship with them. Of course this doesn't mean he wouldn't kill them if they angered him.
Dwight K. Schrute clones deserve respect they're war veterans like vader
cameron burke Old. They also killed the Jedi and helped usher in an evil Empire.
Dwight K. Schrute because of microchips that control their actions when the hear certain ordets
Not just clones. Vader has little respect for officers, and a lot more respect for the soldiers.
#SaveTheCloneWars
People are still doing that. Lol
You again? I SEE YOU EVERYWHERE
We will never give up. We will never stop fighting to bring it back.
#SaveTheCloneWars
You guys lost that fight years also, give it up.
Jason Tang Well it's back 5 month after lol
Anyone play battlefront 2(PS2)? The campaign was great playing as the 501st. They show the integration as well.
Dennis Cleary Never did get used to the new guys...
Charlie Spurr Yes sir you are right he did say that
Dennis Cleary Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to coruscant, not when order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word.
Charlie Spurr They also had to close their eyes as they killed Ayala Secura on Felucia during order 66, which shows that they still were somewhat there even when they were given their orders
Just like the simulations
This is a interesting topic
Yes, it is
I'm lucky having 501st being full of clones.
Darth Vader indeed
Darth Vader The only problem is that the stromtrooper helmet give them bad aim. (I put it on before.)
Me:Should I tell him what happen in canon
Vader:what
Also no wonder the stormtropers hit things in They first scene
Lord Vader I hope so I hope so the clones are like brothers to you I can feel it
Poor men! They fought and died for the Republic for peace and then they were invalid out like droids. What a sad destiny!
Yet droids last and could still be reprogrammed :(
Just like our troops today. The similarities are terrifying.
Legends version > Canon version
as usual
ULTIMATZEKROM They both get replace eventually? I don’t see how they are any different.
I like the Cannon version more
Darktrooper99 The difference is the clones slowly get replaced after the "clone rebellion" in legends, while in canon, there's really no reason listed other than the deterioration of the clones due to the cloning process used, which is kind of weak. Plus, I like the idea of the Clone rebellion more.
Eh, they’re pretty similar. Also the clone rebellion concept seems a bit inexplicable to me. Why would they suddenly declare war on the Empire and expect to win just because they have a private army? They’re still dwarfed by the rest of the Empire.
Wam power
that being said the Kamino Rebelion explains why the Emperor didn't just force Kamino to continue making Clone Troopers for the Imperial army and refuse to pay for them, a concept that does exist in cannon as that's why the Star Destroyers and Death Stars were able to be made.
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Those poor clones.
What the Clones didn't mention was that their successes in the Clone Wars were largely possible because they had very competent generals leading them, specifically the Jedi. When Order 66 was executed, the GAR almost literally lopped off its own head and many Clones were left without commanders in the field. The performance of the army dropped substantially and only really improved when Vader himself was leading them, who was once a former Jedi general.
Actually, the Jedi were terrible Generals. Good frontline leaders, but specially in the early years they fucked up a lot. Jedi didn't receive any military training and had to learn everything from scratch.
The Jedi were incompetent generals early on, but so were most legitimate generals, due to the extended peace leading to some ineffective strategy and poor equipment leaking in. After a while, having a magical samurai with the power to see really far away and predict enemy movements through the Force became really effective, as, by then, people figured out how to better fight real wars.
Part of the reason why most clones carried out order 66 was because they found the Jedi commanders pretty incompetent. At this point most if not all Jedi alive would have been raised from a young age in the temple and would have had no military experience. In fact it was part of Palpatines plan to discredit the Jedi. This is also why in a few rare instances the clones disobeyed order 66 because they actually admired their Jedi commander when that Jedi displayed some level of competence and/or regard for troops under their command.
wiping facisms face off of europe and dominating eastern europe for years to come was incompetence?
Trent Baker wasn't it a brainwash command?
There is no legends, it's true canon, what they call legends!
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"Group of stormtroopers with helmets off and taking selfies"
Clone: "Gross."
The clear implication of Episode II was that we were seeing the creation of the first generation of stormtroopers, and I remember seeing it in the cinema and how mind blowing the revelation was, and how that, unlike other aspects of the story, seemed to have been planned all along. We'd never seen a stormtrooper's face, we only knew they were human(oid) because Luke and Han were able to take their armour. They had numbers instead of names, and were treated by the Rebels as faceless, expendable cannon fodder. The progression from an all Jango Fett army to a mix of different clones and conscripts in Legends made perfect sense. The Disney canon messed it up.
I think canon did the same.
Watch those wrist rockets
Just like the simulations
" I know let's replace our well trained easily limitless units of special forces level troopers with easily scared people who in all likelihood defect to the rebels given the chance and are not properly trained or experienced in tactics and strategies of warfare and have years of fighting experience programmed literally in their own DNA and thoughts...
What could possibly go wrong ? "
Keep up the good work my man! I love this content.
As a very small officer minority within the Empire, I study galactic history, pass on my knowledge to the battalion under my command, and ensure that they are aware of their predecessors, and that they receive the same vigorous training. I also develop good relationships with my troops, and prefer to lead them personally into battle. Unfortunately we are far too small to change anything in the Empire.
I think high quality troops would be a more worthy investment than a massive death star
Great video as always!
Thanks :)
Thank you for the entertainment.
Man, this is something i always wondered about. Good to see the explanation here.
As always I learn a lot from your channel thx for uploading 😀
Good guy Vader, asks his men to retire. A really concerned boss
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C Groot I would have loved to serve them with ice cold lemonade
C Groot ive seen you somewhere else...
laz981 ghey only drink beer haha
wenxuan ji 👍👑 didn't I see you at Wal-Mart the other day lol
C Groot probaly hard lemonade then :3
Amazing content. Keep it up!
Could watch this channel all day
*Empire: we will be replacing you with human
*Clones: WTF
Clones: pikachu meme
This comment hurts my soul
I love how the Clones thought war was their only purpose and the only thing they knew, like how some soldiers in the end of the First World War didn't want to go home and thought war was their source of excitement and adrenaline.
Amazing video mate enjoyed it
Thanks!
Clones: “At least we can hit our targets”
Can you do a video about how in Legends, many clones near the end of the Clone wars were made from other, non-Jango Fett templates? I would like to learn more about this.
more great content! keep up the great work
The depths of this really hits home
Where is that picture from with the officer and the shock clones at 1:04?
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Pretty funny that the Empire tossing Kamino's clones by the wayside is what gave us a Han Solo. or a pilot to defect with the Death Star news.
Makes you wonder. If Palpatine had kept using clones, would the Rebel Alliance have been able to defeat the empire?
I remember reading a bit of lore from The Force Unleashed 2 about a clone who watched a stormtrooper recruit rolling into a wall. He remarked how if his old commander had still been alive, he would have singlehandedly killed all of the recruits.
Vader: Hey man. Just wanna say, you should probably retire. You know, your body is wearing down, and I don't know if you should keep going.
Clone: Nah, I'm good.
*walks out and trips on door*
Clone: I meant to do that.
Vader is like Look I know this is the Teapot calling the kettle black... But you neither have the force or expensive cybernetic rig I got goin on... You should retire.
Anthology on the stormtrooper that hit his head??? Yes please!!
King Quin The 9th he died
Read "From A Certain Point Of View". It has a chapter on that trooper.
I have met the guy and the other guy who was next to him.
He became a First Order Commander LMAO.
Since he technically hit something, he was determined to be 75% more effective than the average trooper, so he was promoted to a rank worthy of his abilities (in other words, Grand Admiral).
I like the legends version better
It isn't cannon, and wouldn't have made sense anyway, the empire wants numbers, not skill... And clones we oils t have been needed before the rebellion.
noah busch well at the times the clones were elite soldiers with all the battle experience they had it makes sense that they served the early years of the empire also it was cannon at the time
True... But as they said in Clone wars, they couldn't produce dna forever...
noah busch yes but they still have a good amount of it that's why I said it makes sense that they served the early years of the Empire instead of getting replaced like in 3 months
he posted this on my birthday... and i love clones!!
Clones: *punches a drone in battle*
Stormtroopers: *misses everyshot they fires*
Hey Lore Master,
Would you mind adding a bibliography of sorts to your description? You sometimes mention something really interesting off the cuff, and I have no idea of where to get more information about it, so knowing where it's from would be helpful.
Just a suggestion.
I usually put the sources used in the video in the description, though sometimes I forget. I actually have thought about putting the sources used right in the video; where they'd appear on the bottom of the screen during when the related information is said in the video. I'm still trying to figure out how to best do that without making the video seemed crammed. But if you have a specific part of the video you want sourced feel free to ask :)
The Lore Master Thanks for the response.
From this video, you mentioned the Clone who Vader tried to nudge towards retirement - that sounds like a really interesting story.
And, if you remember, in another video about religion in The Empire (I think) you mentioned a time the Empire almost turned against Sidious and Vader because they were outed as Force Users.
I'd be most appreciate of any information you can give in this regard, on either of these. Thanks again.😁
The Clone retirement part came from the book "Tarkin". If I remember correctly, it was early on in the book when Vader and Tarkin were off on their first mission together.
The part where some Imperials turned on Vader and Palpatine because they were force users came from a Legends comic series, I think it was either the Ghost Prison comic series or the Dark Times one.
Even the clones knew they were better.
Love you vids
Very interesting video
Stormtroopers thinking that Clones are inferior to them? They can't even land a solid hit! XD
Yeah they can
@@Tom-2142 no they cant
Ryan Williams they really can
For Canon, why did they stop cloning production? Legends gave a good readon (the kaminoan rebellion) but did i miss a reason?
Also, they made the kamino rebellion non-canon? Dammit, that is such a cool scenario and great story telling possibilities as well as gameplay! Atleast keep that in canon :(
In canon, the Clones were enormously expensive, and the Fett DNA used to produce them had become corrupted, . It wasn’t that there was a single event like in Legends, it was more that the Clones had just become impractical.
JurzGarz ah ok. Yet the Death Star is more economically friendly then lol
Thats a good reason regardless, especially the DNA corruption. Just that with how much they do the whole quantity over quality method, the cloning other templates would be a better alternative or reduce the amount of troopers or specialize the clones for more skillful tasks.
They had to scrap Battlefront 2's campaign from canon since the clones were traitors from the get go but in the clone wars series which is canon, the clones were loyal and only betrayed the Jedi because of inhibitor chips in their heads that made them do it.
Wiiranger87 But the Death Star is a weapon of fear and mass destruction and its useful against other possible enemies like extragalactic entities.
Franco Valdez yeah but a massive fleet of star destroyers can pretty do the same, just takes longer. Still love the death star. And idk if the Yuuzhan Vong are canon, or some variant. Would be cool if they do become canon though they probably screw it up (im not super informative on legends so yeah).
I hope you brought a better class of solder than those "stormtroopers".- Captain Rex
Great video of the clones
This actually partially explains the famous stormtrooper aim - a joke not present during the clone wars
You know war ended and super effective troops weren't needed (you don't need elite soliders to deal with pirates and rogue rebels) so they started using rule "Quanity over Quality" propably biggest mistake by empire
Darth Vader Surely super effective troops are far more important than masses of infantry?
Yes they are you want an example ? Clone Wars there were so many droids, but clones were simply better and more effective and they won most of important battles
Adding on to that, the half of the Galaxy the republic controlled was far way less .. " Rebellious ". People liked the Republic they lived in, if we see the Empires side, everyone hated it, with that x2 the size of the Republic, it seems getting quantity over quality was the only choice.
Of course I would rather have 1000 German soldiers than Delta force to protect my mansion
I really like this "Here's the whole Canon story, now here's the whole Legends story" format, keep do it this way!
I remember in the middle of one of the Clone Wars episodes it was stated that Jango's DNA was being stretched far beyond it's limit and that the production of clones would eventually have to cease until a suitable replacement could be found. Not doing so would result in soldiers with defects that would make them ineligible to be on the battle field.
I feel this has been talked about alot
It has.
I miss the clone wars show... It was so good and just getting so intense when they cancelled it...
These lore stories are really interesting.
I like how you distinctively show cannon then legends cuz some people don't cover both clearly. :)
Something I'm sad about is that Captain rex never met Anakin after the clone wars in star wars rebels.
Who would win?:
Highly and easily trained cloned soldiers that could kill a Jedi.
Versus
Some normal bois
I am surprised at Vader's kindness asking him to retire and not force-choking him or sticking a lightsaber through his back like officers who made mistakes...
Clones: we're not going to retire! You'll have to kill us!!
Stormtroopers: Shoot everywhere on the wall
Republic: the most badass soldiers in Star Wars history that can kill Jedi
Empire: weird pathetic snowmen who miss everything
The duchess from the witcher 3 was a stormtrooper? 3:01
Joshua Nutter yeah i was wondering if anyone else noticed :-)
I mean, Daud was apparently someone's father in this universe.
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His voice is perfect for his channel!
The stormtroopers who actually hit stuff in the beginning of A New Hope must have been clones.
Yup
Clone troopers are more likely to be more loyal then storm troopers and more suited to fight
well that's my opinion
SSjBlue Vegeta not an an opinion, that's a fact
SSjBlue Vegeta yeah I mean look at finn
Vader caring is one of the most unbelievable yet coolest things in Star wars
Lore Master with great knowledge of Star Wars Canon and Legends Material
How about doing a video about Dr Aphra?
Seeing how the Stormtroopers cant hit a barn from the inside, the clones were not wrong to see them as inferior
What did the stormtroopers think of the clones?
"Wow these guys are old but they still aim better than us!".
"Clone gives advice to Stormtrooper"
Stormtrooper : Shut up grandpa
Clone: Who you calling grandpa I'm just a few years older (clone walks away)
Clone: At least I can still aim
Clone's first thought: "These guys can't shoot straight."
“We never really did get used to the new guys.” - veteran clone trooper, SWBFII (2005.)
Is it just me or does canon stories seem more uninteresting than legends.
I wish they would reuse many of the Legends stories by bringing them back to canon. I would like the Plagueis novel to be one of them.
Just A Random Bored Guy That Has A TH-cam Account omg I just realized your username is long but anyways lol I like to still use legends as canon since I grew up reading that
I still like to think that many of the legends stuff is canon. I like to think that Garm Bel Iblis is still a founding member of the Rebel Alliance and that Nebular Class Star Destroyers are apart of the New Republic Fleet. Just because the Lucasfilm Story Group says there not canon doesn't mean you have to listen to them. I will be disappointed if the 2 are never brought back by the group, but they will always be apart of my version of SW regardless.
Just A Random Bored Guy That Has A TH-cam Account yesssssss exactly
I can agree to that. The last part that is.